Post_Title,Post_ID,Post_Date,Comment,Post_URL
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"The usual, do not leave the church stuff. Obey the admin. Blah blah. And the undying Acts 20:28.
What caught my attention though was the activity on april 27-28 (?). It’s for a special offering and the minister said something along the lines of “offer the kind of amount that you’ve never offered before” Must be for EVM and his entourage and for all the lawsuits the church is facing. The minister repeatedly said to save up for it, so “God” will be pleased. We’re really buying our way to heaven yeah?
The minister also said something about being united in everything, especially during the upcoming elections. That we should be non-partisan. Psh. Check articles about duterte, you’ll find trash, duterte fanatics’ comments there. Click their profile and most of the time you’ll see on their bio, “proud to be INC” lol.
Closing statements, the usual. Support king evm.
I am so tired of this religion. I dread thursdays and sundays.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"Today’s lesson was definitely “Don’t leave the INC.”
Our minister talked about liars not making it to heaven. You know who’s definitely NOT going to heaven then? EVM and all his cohorts.
He also kept referencing things EVM said during the International Officer’s Day. Maybe he was doing it to guilt trip those who didn’t attend, but all it did was remind me how lucky I was to have dodged that waste of time bullet.
I got an eyelash in my eye towards the end of the sermon and I was rubbing my eyes trying to get it out. I guess our minister thought I was feeling the Holy Spirit bc he looked directly at me as he talked about praying our hardships away. 🙄",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"Lesson this week was about uphold fervour till the end; how God will will help us throughout our harsh life.
At the beginning there were mentions of, don’t be inactive nor be separated from our divine elections and how today’s sermon will be about how to hold our ground during hardship.
Verses I heard (this is my first time writing these down so I might be wrong, it’s been years since my last Relgious Study class when I went to a catholic high school where they taught us how to read the bible, not even by the Church of Christ lol)
**Psalms 65, ?-19** (I missed the first one, I was so nervous making notes at first lol)
“Pay attention, creation of heaven and earth... no more cries or anguish.”
Told that we should look forward to the joys and promises made by God as he has created a new heaven and earth —> the holy city. Therefore, all the BS we facing rn, ignore the “gravity” of this world as it’s a distraction. ~~guess I’m gonna float to space~~ Focus on the new city.
Who will receive the blessings?
**Revelations, Ch 14, 30:** “blessed are this who die Christian.” Being a member of the COC, we will be saved ~~allegedly~~
More postulation about having no more toils and labours in the New City.
True Christian, what is that?
**John, 1-4:** “I am a Christian... don’t do what have been told then they’re a liar.” Links to the commandment (?) and that member shouldn’t be liars lol
Door of sheepfold
**John, Ch 10, 7, 9:** “Come in me...”
only way we can be saved is going to the COC. We should relinquish our faith and be proud to be a member as membership is important to be saved.
Links to **Acts 20:28** (lamsa rendition) about Jesus being head self and is the flock = COC.
Statements made in motivating to be active, links to works of propagation
Who will be in heaven in the church?
**Thessalonians, Chapter (Ch) 1, 4 & 5:** “determined in the faith even during hard times... fit for the kingdom”
The troubles that we are facing makes it so that we are fit for the kingdom. Minster goes on by saying that our membership isn’t enough and we must have *steadfast and deterministic characteristics* in the midsts of suffering — this is what makes us genuine Christians and member of the Church of Christ (COC)
What other characteristics should we have? ~~aside from corruption, manipulation and egotistical~~
**Psalms 37, 3-6:** “Trust the Lord... given hearts desire... let Him lead you.” Links were made to completely believe in God and that we should completely obey teachings and commandments.
Made links to upholding: attendance, sharing our faith, loving brothers and sisters in the faith, *even loving our enemies and offering.*
Mentions of church administrators in intensifying propagation and ***we should do our part by sharing the Pasugo, INC media website, INC cards etc.***
Stop serving due to troubles? No.
**Romans 8, Ch 35, 38, 39:** “Doesn’t he love us anymore, has God deserted us?”
Being in the COC, we are ready to face death and it will not separate our love with God. **Neither will hell or fear wouldn’t remove the love God has for us,** just like how Jesus dying for the COC to be redeemed — this is the type of conviction we need as a member of the COC.
Jesus dying —> Acquitted us from eternal judgement.
***Will you let a job, friends, relationships outside the COC jeopardise your salvation?*** We must ignore these to be saved.
Conviction, now, what else?
**Philippians 4, 12-14:** “Live next to nothing, content, in any situation.” ~~I would like to give this passage specifically for Ka Eddie boy.~~
Due to the power given to us by Jesus; holy sprit receive during the worship service, we shouldn’t forsake our attendance or else we don’t get the power. Classic link to the *“Don’t extinguish the Holy Spirit”*
He’ll be back for salvation if we uphold our election and membership (assurance)
But I’m in pain, how to ease the burden?
**Peter 5-7:** “cast whole completely, our anxiety and concern on Him.”
God cares for you, take advantage of this and draw near to him. Open your heart, do your part as He is willing to grant blessings to us
Sustain the family, spiritual blessing and guidance, *no one will be removed or tested from the COC in Gods return.*
Special offering this weekend, so I guess I’m still giving the same amount (the minimal amount lol)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"To summarize it up, it's about serving God or in INC's case, the INC Administration, that not even death can separate you from Him/Them. Because why will you leave if God has a special place reserved for you in heaven? Also, if your family does not like you going to INC, leave them too because not even them can stop you.
Not only that, they specifically said that saying you're a Christian is not enough as everyone can lie that they'll be they're the chosen one so you really need to be IN the INC to be saved. So everyone from the outside?
Yeah, they'll be punished FOREVER for something they've done TEMPORARY.
If this is not more than enough explanation for everyone to see that this is a big CULT sign, then I don't know what else to explain.
Basically:
**OBEY AND NEVER COMPLAIN TO GET A SPOT IN HEAVEN.**
**LEAVE YOUR FAMILY IF THEY EVER QUESTIONED YOUR BELIEFS.**
**THE ONLY TRUTH IS INC AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE WORK OF THE DEVIL.**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"Thank you for sharing. I wonder on how long will members willing to put up with these nonsense? It’s the same BS over and over again.
As for the offering, well, if a member usually gives $1.00, then he or she should give $1.01, (this ought to qualify as something that’s never been done before). Those deacon and or deaconess will probably give you murderous looks if they see a penny dropped into their velvet bags! Ha!
As for being united, it’s one of the basic tenet of a cult membership. The desecration of critical thinking and the tyrannical rule of denying members their freedom, twisting it as God’s will.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"That's how I got, dreading the Thursday and Saturday bullshit same old nonsense, but after a while I found I was not enjoying life all week because of the twice weekly always there in my face, smothered, doing something that I truly hated. Haven't been for a while now and will never go back. Probably at cost of the marriage as my wife is now a snarling ill tempered spiteful ""Christian""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"Thank you for sharing u/28thJuly1914. So basically, same lesson as last Wed/Thu and Sun to not leave INC with additional info on liers. That seems to be the running theme as of late with the exception of this past Monday, something about don’t let go your office and be kind to or take care the brethren.
IMO the best way to get rid of hardship is leave the cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"When taking notes, no one really noticed? I just kept my head down and just wrote 😂 the only time I felt awkward was the rustling of paper but other than that, I felt awake and engaged with the lesson. I’ll keep up with note taking for a while, it’s nice practice for effectively taking key points and whatnot, definitely know how to improve next time.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"Thanks so much for this.. great write up. So I'll add this to our ever growing list and log it as *Don't leave the INC, The Administration and
Intensive Propagation*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"It would seem that there are slight difference from our lesson, but I assume it's because of the English-Filipino Translation issues.
Perhaps if my life get stabilized better, I'll write down notes too.
Keep up the good work!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"Thank you u/Kyushichi_Tagawa for sharing. This is impressive. When we get back home, I'm going to print it (as part of my collections).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,">Sure enough the sermon deviated to giving generous offering after reading Psalms 27,3-6; Our minister even said why are you holding back? It was so different before likely forgetting about Giving from your heart as God loves a cheerful giver. Today the implied lesson is you can buy your salvation by giving generously. And then on the end, saying that we should be content whatever is the situation. Apparently this does not apply to the administration. The relentless pursuit of new members, the unquenchable need to give more and more for the church. The unending activities that when attended sparsely brought scoldings if not Guilting the officers and members to no end. Contentment eh? bah! humbug!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10," **LEAVE YOUR FAMILY IF THEY EVER QUESTIONED YOUR BELIEFS** . That has got to be the worst if not the sickest rule to give to your members. Those INCult are a cult but their beliefs are so up their ass's that they believe that they are the only chosen ones. If you're not with us, you're against us mentality is so cultic. Especially the love and devotion they have for a man, who disowned his family, used the church for profit, and committed crimes with no penalty because of their influences in the government.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"Lol at $1.01! I just feel so bad for the less fortunate members. If the admin keeps on pushing these kinds of lessons, then the kind of “God” INC portrays isn’t just vengeful and conceited, He also loves money as well.
I won’t be surprised if half of the members in our locale is PIMO (physically in, mentally out) and annoyed because our resident minister blabs about offerings too much. All the other verses, he just goes through them quick. But if he could connect it to offerings, he emphasizes it. Lol smh",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"That's what we do! and the poor finance has to make a salaysay if they found it in there. The poor minister will then say, we still have 'tisod' (offended) members in here. They don't know members are just pissed and are doing their own mind games with them.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,Yes and give triple what what I used to give (3 x $0) a big handful of air into that precious white pouch,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"I agree, that’s the surefire way to happiness. Soon u/BelleCA very soon. 😊",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"I am not sure if I heard it right, but Sunday's WS is pay per view?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"Thank you :)
I will try and make notes for the upcoming weekend service! I assume that it might be a playback that’s going to be shown, therefore it’s likely that it’s going to be in Tagalog... It might be a struggle for me because, though I can speak and write in Tagalog, it’s pretty much just standard level? When they start to say long and fancy words in Tagalog, it would throw me off. I basically play fill in the gap to have some sort of understanding of what’s being said.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,No problem! I feel honoured that my notes will be printed :),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"Just a quick comment on ""the relentless pursuit of new members...""
It must be super frustrating that after expelling and having so many leave, especially in North America (the cash cow), that they are likely finding it nearly impossible to replace those lost members and that lost money.
There is suppose to be some sort of International Kadiwa meet up or something like that? Probably to get some North American members hooked up to get more INC in the US and Canada? The more members in the US and Canada, the more money. Plus, they can make it appear those churches are growing.
I saw that original pic of the Forest Hills, NY congregation which I believe is more than just Forest Hills. If that is a majority of their members (I will just go with 75% as maybe all could not attend during the picture taking), well then it has really shrunk. I believe they purchased an old church a few years back. It can't be any simple task having enough money for EVM and upkeep.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"I believe that a lot of the members are PIMO but at the same time, they will continue with the status quo. My mother-in-law is aware of the changes and she hates the changes but she said that she would never leave and will die inside. It's sad! I'm hoping that some (especially the younger generations) will have the courage to say that they have enough.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"**Wait, what?**
The finance officers have to write a report to explain why the money they collected was not what they expected?!? OMG this is too much. I don't know what it would take for these poor officers to open their eyes. For God's sakes, leave already!!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"Yup, that's what I heard.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"Yes, a EVM's worship service conducted in Philippines.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"I hope you won’t get into trouble. When we were still members, my son used to take notes (he called it for posterity) and for awhile it was ok but then during our last few months, he was warned by a few of the deacons to not take notes. My husband and I asked to why he was prohibited and they told us that they wanted everyone to pay attention to the minister (which I think was just another lame excuse).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"I agree, I think they’re frustrated that they’re not growing as fast as they thought they are. But what I don’t understand is that, they should have realized early on that it’s a lot harder to bring in non Filipinos as guests, let alone convince them to join (unless as someone said they’re old white men desperate to hook up with young Filipino girls, which BTW, it’s really disgusting —- sorry I don’t mean to judge). So it’s understandable for Filipino members to hound other Filipinos for invites but even that, I didn’t see that happening, at least when I was still inside.
Therefore, the alternative is to lie and to pretend that they are as big as they claimed by gathering other members from other locales during an activities. They would take photos and post them online claiming a successful gathering once again. They do that here too. I remember I thought they were guests but I learned later on that they were members from other locales.
However, the clicker is that the administration orders members to not associate or socialize with nonmembers for fear that these members would leave INC.
INC is going around full circle, dam if they do, dam if they don’t.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"If you are taking notes, don't they think that you are paying even more attention than others? LOL",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"Oml that’s sounds so sketchy... thank you for the heads up! I hope they don’t try and intervene when I take notes in future services. For sure, it was a lame excuse on what the deacons told you!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,Exactly but INC's reasoning never made any sense to me (and to us). You would think that they would appreciate worshippers (especially the young ones) taking notes.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Apr 10 - Apr 11, 2019)",bblvt0,2019-04-10,"It likely goes along the same lines as that quote from Joe Ventilation about ""a little knowledge is a dangerous thing"". I suppose if they are taking notes, they are going to go back and read the context and see how badly misinterpreted their scripture translations are.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/bblvt0/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_11/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"Same thing as every week. It started off with, “yo guys, this world is fucked and full of negative vibes like school shooting. However, we INC peeps stay in the church and we pretty much saved y’kno?”
Then outta nowhere, my minister mentioned about offerings, setting aside, year end thanksgiving soon, mentioning about the Worldwide EVM online thing with the fat boy Angelo, uhh the food drive so they can show off about their success (which is lowkey pride) and that’s pretty much it actually.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"The minister emphasized how our DM is currently in the PI to ask Almighty EVM to “allow” us to have a new painting and new carpet during the lesson.
And then emphasized how we have to do our part and do everything we can to make it all happen.
He said we make excuses to take the extra shift or the late night shift at work, and that prevents us from going to church. And instead, we have to make sacrifices and give money and spend our time and physical effort to for the beautification of our chapel.
Like... big fucking deal lol
And then he mentioned how there’s a Grand Baptism for the Guinness World Records... (which you gotta pay $800 to even apply).
Also, I’m getting so annoyed by all these ministers that talk with the annoying “I’m a minister, I’m holy, Im going to persuade you, Obey and NEVER complain” diction.
Everything is just for show and besides the individuals who are looking 10X jaded as me, I can’t believe the rest of the congregation are actively drinking the kool aid. It’s crazy to see things from the other side because I used to be them as well.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"The minister mentioned a story about a guy who had no legs was able to invite a whole tribe of people, and how he wasn't even a minister, just a regular member.
First off, nice lie.
Second, good luck pulling that shit off in the west.
Third, so you compared him to a minister. Alright then, where are the people YOU invited to listen to yourself speak? What's your excuse for not inviting? What you're insinuating is that regular members are more responsible than ministers. Regular members have full-time jobs, sometimes as much as 2 to 3. You have one job, as a minister. What's your excuse for your laziness? You're sent to preach and not invite? Good luck telling that to Jesus. Remember the Sermon on the Mount?- All invited by Jesus. You know all the apostles?-all invited and baptized by Jesus. If you really want to boost your numbers for your commission as a minister, how about you use your so-called sent-by-God power to invite people?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"Sick of them passing off old testament law and practices like it still applies to the christian era as it did back then.
The law was fulfilled with the death of Jesus",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"Ah yes, my minister starting off the lesson by saying that people who aren't in the church don't know what to do about their depression
Stopped listening from there",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,yuhp! I thought it was gonna a nice lesson since the songs we sang at the beginning were some of the more decent ones,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"SOS = same old shit
Good thing they do not notice me blending with them just to get a *katibayan.* Wait it out somewhere, then after seeing them getting out of the chapel, sneak in and go to the secretariat to get that piece of paper.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"I love how they clown on the brethren for taking extra shifts or putting work first, and then, in the same lesson, emphasize the need for more offering. Like, ok, let me live in the chapel and pick my offerings off a tree.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"> And then he mentioned how there’s a Grand Baptism for the Guinness World Records... (which you gotta pay $800 to even apply).
So it’s confirmed about this world record attempt?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,The major reason for this is because of Felix Manalo's Adventist beliefs and past.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,He must have been living in rock.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,The lessons were never nice in the 20 years that I was inside. Same regurgitation for years. Nothing new and the only thing that I find bazaar in how members can stand these same old BS.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"Hahaha that’s so funny you mention that last line because that’s exactly how these ministers are getting by.
They don’t have a slight perspective of what it’s like to REALLY. WORK. in the real world.
Even the kids that run off to the ministry who did get the part time job, they never faced a struggle in their life because it was just handed to them.
That is, I’m just talking about BEM overseas.
Some do get a little side job, but to actually work 9-5 in an environment to support not only yourself, but mouths to feed, to keep the electricity on in your house, to have shelter over your head... They don’t have a clue.
And if they did, they ran to the ministry to avoid the harsh reality of the real world.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"Yep trying to baptize 37,000 new members",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"have to look for the silver lining in every lesson while i plan my great escape, otherwise ill start sobbing mid way through the lesson when the missquote a verse :'/
tis' is hard",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"My experience over 20 years also the same rubbish twice a week, this will never change, hoping for the youth to wake up en masse and speed up the demise of this miserable cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"I am not surprised. Our minister once told everyone during the lesson that we are all spoiled in America for having cars and houses. 😳 Like, my bad, po, I’m just going to brush up on some H.D. Thoreau to figure out how to go about that statement. Anyway, in the same month the DM talks about Starbucks and how everyone can spend on it everyday but when it comes to offerings they are lacking. They wouldn’t mind it though if I spent on Starbucks and brought it to the district office during their meetings, right? They really don’t think before speaking, I agree 100%.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"Are you kidding me?
Ministers cannot even afford their own car to begin with. LOL
Everything is literally handed to them. And they expect us to willingly give our possessions to them? In the name of Lord EVM who can buy his little airbus?
Oh please. NEXT.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"Dude 37,000 people in pool? That’s like an outbreak waiting to happen lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"Whenever you're at a worship service, just fantasize that you're somewhere beautiful (ie at a beach somewhere in Hawaii or strolling somewhere in Rome) or you could nap.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,[NEXT JOKE ORIGIN](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChoosingBeggars/comments/7kr5as/i_need_a_free_100mile_bus_trip_for_20_people_and/),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,That's what I use to do. I'd daydream off and think of places I've been to just to past the time. Lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Sep 04 - Sep 05, 2019)",czkqez,2019-09-04,"Just avoid sitting besides a deacon or a deaconess unless they also dream with you, hahaha!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/czkqez/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_05/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"If anyone is curious, no, I'm not dead or something. I managed to skip 2 weeks of WS (or shall I say BS). But the physical repercussions made me a bit anxious so I decided to go. Some dickbag decided to stare at me sometimes while writing notes. Thankfully it wasn't a deacon.
# Sermon
**Theme:** Prepare your ~~wasted money~~ Thanksgiving offering that you have set aside for the entire year!
**Verses:** (personal comments in *italics*)
* **2 Corinthians 9:5** \- Reason why you should set aside. *""As a generous gift and not forced to do"" yet we feel forced due to fearmongering.*
* **2 Corinthians 9:7** \- ""Give it cheerily"" because God loves cheery things. *Although, we cannot do this if we are trapped in the cult.*
* **2 Corinthians 9:2** \- Thanksgiving is not a new thing.
* **2 Corinthians 8:1** \- ""The grace of God bestows upon them on the churches of Macedonia"" meaning that you'll be graced if you give your ""voluntary"" offerings.
* **2 Corinthians 8:2** \- Give money even if you are poor.
* **2 Corinthians 8:3** \- ""As much as they could, more than they could in their free will"". *The KJV translation says ""For to their power, I bear record, yea, and beyond their power they were willing of themselves;"", but the minister almost never always says the translations used, unless if multiple are used.*
* **2 Corinthians 8:4** \- They weren't forced, apparently... *I can recall this verse having ""They begged us"", but KJV says otherwise. Then again, there's LOTS of English translations for the Bible.*
* **2 Corinthians 8:5** (first part) - ""It was more than expected"", probably telling us to give more than just the TC card but the offerings we set aside for the year.
* **2 Corinthians 8:5** (second part) - ""They gave themselves to the Lord"" - and trust the Administration. *No idea why they had to split one verse into two parts. Probably for clarification.*
* **Hebrews 13:16** \- Reason why we shouldn't be offended, so God can be well pleased.
* **Songs 15:23** \- Thank God (?). *The person next to me stared at me and I tried to act like l wasn't writing shit in the first place...*
* **Proverbs 3:9-10** \- Honor the lord with your possessions. You shouldn't offer only when you have excess, etc. Minister also added that the blessings are only reserved for those who offer. *The minister decided to speak a bit of Tagalog in the English WS. Wtf?*
* **Malachi ?:9-10** \- Revenge for those who question His blessings. ""We should give offerings wholeheartedly and obey His commandments so He is pleased!"" *Malachi only has 4 chapters, but I was a bit distracted so I heard ""9-10"" only.*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"Two words: Thanksgiving Offering
I noticed after signing for my lagak (setting aside), right above my name, 2 people has 695$. I settled with less than 200$. Man, imagine what they could have done with that money...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"Money money money.... donate and reminder the schedule of donations from the kids and adults are different schedule.. the more you give, the more blessing you will receive..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Regular Sunday WS was “cancelled” and held on either Friday night or Saturday AM because the ministers had to attend a unity game just for ministers far away. This included 5-10 districts or states,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Regular Sunday WS was “cancelled” and held on either Friday night or Saturday AM because the ministers had to attend a unity game just for ministers far away. This included 5-10 districts or states,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Search INC small remnant in youtube. Bro dizon will tell you otherwise. You will be mesmerized with new bible verses that actually exist but is hidden from INC members to maintain the current mindset steady as possible.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"I hate it when they keep speaking in Tagalog during a supposed English worship service! I think it's so rude to do that!!!!! We had a minister who would be like ""if we have any guests here please excuse me..."" then he gets this smug look on his face and proceeds to speak in Tagalog and tell jokes. 90% of the congregation are loling with him the other 10% are sitting there like wtf.
If I was a guest I would NOT feel comfortable to continue attending",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"See u/Proverbs1815 all of the lessons are a functional guide on how to serve an institution.
We learned how to live a christian life by learning how to serve the INC machine. We didn't learn about how to love our neighbors, how to deal with hardships - just giving money. Yes, this is backed with verses. But the verses are cherry picked.
What else does JC want us to know besides acts 20:28?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,What else is new 🙄. It's also about continuing to support the manalo cult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,INC actually canceled Sunday WS. Yay INC you finally did something right. Those in my region know exactly what I am talking about. Thanks for the data. It seems INC pulled the “Macedonia” lesson out of the vault.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"No mention of the old lady and her two cents? I am sure King Fatboy Eddy, Sad goons and the INK cult will never ever mention it again.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"ok.. usual *Offerings, The Administration*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,I’m not familiar with this setting aside money. My fiancé is an INC and she’s never mentioned this to me. Could you kindly explain. Thank you.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"Wait, they rescheduled the Sunday worship service to host a unity game for ministers? Why just have the unity game on a Saturday and have the regular service on Sunday? Why does the unity game have more precedent than a worship service?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"Hold up, brother. ""New bible verses""? You might wanna cross check. Technically, the INC admin hides no verses (after all, the church uses the same holy book as with other Christian denominations) *but simply over emphasizes* those which fit their narrative.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,InC Is NoT A FiLiPiNo ChUrCh,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"I haven't attended the service yet, I'll respond to this tomorrow. I'll record the verses and share them here.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"In response to your post:
""Right makes sense. Just completely weird that the prayer is 95% EVM and 5% JC. Clearly EVM takes precedent over jesus christ.
I get the idea from the fact that our prayers are an EVM suck-up. We barely pray to jesus christ. It's a fact.
Yeah when have we heard that verse in the lesson? Never. We dont learn about jesus christ. We only learn about how to keep the cult running and the INC backs it with verses. Always attend, give offering, beware of detractors, praise EVM. All of the teaching in a ws are how to serve an institution. We know nothing about leading a Christian life.
Dont believe me? Let's listen to this week service this week and then we can both go over what jesus taught us.""
My response:
Out of the 4 prayers today, the administration was mentioned once in 2 of those prayers.
Christ was mentioned 10 times out of 4 of those prayers. 3 of the hymns contained songs to Christ Jesus, 0 about the administration.
The lesson today did not mention one thing about the administration, rather, Gods commandment to offer and that he takes pleasure in it and rewards us for it.
I can provide verses if you wish.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Can you tell us the reason why it was cancelled? They take pictures of brethren taking a frikken canoe or whatever to a flooded chapel; WS still goes on when the power is out or there’s a crazy snow storm. Even if something happened to the minister there is a reserved. I can’t imagine why they would completely cancel WS..,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"Wow, they actually cancelled a worship service? I wonder why? Did you know beforehand that it was canceled or did you go to the chapel and found a note or something that says ""WS cancelled for today.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Regular Sunday WS was “cancelled” and held on either Friday night or Saturday AM because the ministers had to attend a unity game just for ministers far away. This included 5-10 districts or states,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"I have not heard of that parable in ages. It doesn't fit their ""abundant giving"" narrative anyway.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"
I actually made a comment analyzing the poor widow verses in Mark 12:41-43 or Luke 21:1-4 so if INC reads it in WS, one will see it from a different light.
https://reddit.app.link/c0trjF9L51",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"it's an amount of money, usually 5$ or more, that we set aside weekly to prepare for year end thanksgiving. About a week or two before thanksgiving, they will issue you a check with the amount that you have collected and use that as offering, some members cann add more if they want",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,">My fiancé is an INC and she’s never mentioned this to me.
Sorry to say, but she is not your fiance. It is forbidden for an INC to be in any romantic relationship with a non-member (Refer to Lesson 21). Check it with her.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Unity games and other shit are more important than worship services nowadays.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"Lmao right ""unity"". I remember my parents complained when we were kids because they wouldn't give us ribbons to attend the English holy supper and we had to attend the Tagalog one. My mom told them we couldn't understand Tagalog well and the overseer told her they should've raised us to speak Tagalog 👏👏",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"I hated that and they're so damm rude speaking Tagalog in an English worship service. As a non-Filipino, that used to offend and infuriated me.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Oops my bad sorry PO! Haha,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"
>The lesson today did not mention one thing about the administration, rather, Gods commandment to offer and that he takes pleasure in it and rewards us for it.
Exactly, give more money to an institution.
The sad thing is that the bible is rich with many things but we only focus on offering. Every worship service. Come on guy. Take the blinders off.
EDIT: without knowing the lesson, I already knew it was going to to contain offering related verses. The bible is so vast and so informative yet we seem to only focus on the seven deadly themes.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,">Gods commandment to offer and that he takes pleasure in it
Wait a moment. So God is a ""he"" and ""he"" partakes of worldly sins (aka ""pleasure"")? This is getting better each and every day.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Just want to add that my BIG state district is considered midwest and yet our ministers were required to attend this this east coast ministers unity game,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"Not cancelled, rescheduled. Only time I ever heard of a worship service being cancelled was when a the roads were shut down in a specific area.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Yeah we knew just a week in advance when it was announced in the WS because of the schedule changes.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,The regular Sunday WS was “cancelled” because the ministers has a unity games just for them. The “region” included 5-10 districts or states.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Thanks,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Oh wow! Thanks for the info I really appreciate it. Pamasko 😅,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"Doesn't mean she isn't his fiance. Just means she is breaking the church rules, as my significant other did going on 26 years ago.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,We offer to God. Its a commandment from God.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"I too, was recently part of a BIG state district. I got orders and recently left. I wonder if they announced my name yet.. don’t know if/when I will be expelled.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,The whole region of at least 5-10 districts had the Regular Sunday WS “cancelled” and moved to either Friday night or Saturday AM so that ministers can go to a minister’s unity games far away.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"Ahh, ok. So it wasn’t really cancelled, just moved to a different day.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"Ya that's why Christmas is forbidden, gotta make sure you can pay up for the year end thanksgiving 💸💸💸",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,no problemo amigo 😊,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"And the church wants members to keep ""abounding"" their offerings!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"Lol. It is. But why do we focus on this in every lesson? Why is offering a major focal point in our services?
It's not like we have a one-off lesson about offering. Offerring is mentioned in almost every worship service. In fact I believe it is one of the INC 10 commandments above murder. Haha. The church is so worried about offering.
""It is a commandment, that's why we learn it""
Listen, the bible has so much more to give than just offering. Sure offering is ok? But why is this all we learn about?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Congratulations in advance,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Exactly. Christmas is all about spending time with family and love ones. INC is selfish and they want the members monies all to themselves.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"They really know how to get their point across, “we want your wallet.”
I bet in not too distant future that they are going to insist that members provide the administration with their atm #s. Why give a bit of cash when they can get their hands inside the cookie jars.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"The reason is because the monetary offering is the heart of INCult. The minister of the local i attended to clearly mention that.
That makes INCult the new man. Christ as the head and the monetsty offering as the heart.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Do you have evidence this is the topic in every lesson? Todays lesson was outlined by Ka Erdy. I feel it was suiting to use today since its Thanksgiving in a couple weeks.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"Hahaha. Yes I do. Go check out the 7 deadly themes in the information section of this subreddit. Every lesson one way or another will go over the 7 deadly themes. Offering, attending, EVM hahahaha. Open your eyes. u/Rauffenberg can you please direct this guy?
Go to the 7 deadly themes section in the exINC wiki.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"I haven't seen it yet, does it contain every worship service verse?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"Just go look at it right now. Dont take my word for anything. Just go see it. Dont have fear - God will guide you to the truth, so checking this out shouldn't hurt you.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,I just saw it. It shows the past couple months had no mention of offering.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"All of the lessons are going to be about one of multiple topics of the 7 deadly themes. The INC doesn't preach anything outside of these 7 deadly themes. Essentially, you are in an echo chamber where evm tells you that in order to be a good christian, you have to follow one of the 7 deadly themes. How is that for an eye opener.
Offering is one of the 7 themes.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"So I guess your claim that offering is mentioned every worship service is out the door. That's fair, we can move on. Its odd that it claims that the lessons are based on only those 7 themes when just about a week ago the lesson was about becoming an officer. Is that contained within the ""7 deadly themes"" as well?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"The ministers mention offering in every service even if it isn't part of the verses.
Go look at the 7 deadly themes, it's all there. You're defending this church so vehemently which is great on one hand - but all you need to do is spend time on the wiki and realize that every service is a rehash of the 7 deadly themes.
The very fact that you're arguing shows that you are questioning your faith. Why spend time here if your faith is strong? You're only exposing yourself to subversion every time you reply to my comments. I have nothing to lose on the other hand - I'm already outside of the faith. Curious as to why you feel like you need to prove the INC teachings so bad to an internet stranger.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"Your claim that ministers mention offering every service isn't true. You tried to show me evidence regarding that, which I showed isn't the case.
If you also claim that the services only mention those 7 topics, where does it include the lesson a week ago about offices?
You can find the answer as to why I'm here in my first post.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"The last 2 services were about not leaving the INC guy.
Not leaving the INC is one of the 7 deadly themes.
How does it feel to be in an echo chamber where INC arguments dont hold up. Dont you know you are in direct violation of the admin by coming to this subreddit?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"My apologies, I meant to say the ones before that. It was about trials and trust in God and the other one that same week was about offices. I also don't recall an instruction from the administration to not discuss about the church online.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"Lol you know very well the INC doesn't want you engaging with detractors. Dont play dumb. Every reply you make and every argument you lost is a showcase to another member on the edge. This is why the INC doesn't want you engaging with us.
You have successfully shown many people how INC verses dont hold up. How is that for someone whose role it is to watch over the flock?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"So if you consider yourself a detractor, may I ask what your purpose of discussion is?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Your claims regarding what is taught in the services was proven wrong by the sources you provided.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,I debate you to show people on this subreddit how easy it is to tear apart an INC members beliefs.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Ok sassy boy. You win. You have successfully won over the hearts and minds of people back to the INC and totally not shown everyone how easily INC doctrines dont hold up.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,You haven't provided any source to falsify the INC's doctrines.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"I'm starting to believe that you didn't read my initial post which is why this has gotten so off topic. I'm also thoroughly amazed at how many names you can come up with against a complete stranger who is discussing with you. Due to your attempts at avoiding a productive discussion, I will spend my time responding to those who are here with the purpose of sharing credited arguments. I don't want to get to the point of assuming all of the commenters on here are like you.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"lol he might take u seriously, he is a minion remember.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,I get it. It's hard to debate against the truth.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,Haha this guy keep coming back here because the truth is addicting. He comes here with the intent of 'teaching us a lesson'. But this is the only place he'll find the truth - that's why he keeps responding.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Weekend worship service examination (Nov 30 - Dec 01, 2019)",e3qfm7,2019-11-29,"No, there's just no point in debating someone admitting to trolling and not using any credible sources to back up their argument.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/e3qfm7/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_01/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,"Introduction: World is in poverty and is majorly caused by laziness of people.
2 Thessalonians 3:10
**NIV:** ""For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: 'The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.""
**Those who are lazy are not going to inherit salvation according to the law of God.**
Genesis 3:17
**NIV:** ""To Adam he said, ""Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat from it,'
**""Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life.""**
\- (I don't get where the laziness plays a part from this verse?) I guess the point they're trying to make here is that being 'fruitful' is a commandment of God. To defy this commandment is to become lazy and therefore, God will curse you if you disobey.
**How does laziness affect livelihood?**
Proverbs 4:10
**NIV:** ""Listen, my son, accept what I say, and the years of your life will be many.""
\- (Again, without the title of 'laziness and poverty' this verse is so vague) They're probably trying to say that if you obey the commandment of God by being diligent and fruitful when it comes to works, then you will reap what you sow; blessed by many years to your life(?).
**What are the habits of lazy people?**
Proverbs 6:9-10
**NIV:** ""How long will you lie there, you sluggard? When will you get up from your sleep?""
""A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest - ""
\- So their point here is, lazy people love to sleep. To be honest, that's like a really general description of lazy people. Sleeping isn't just because you are lazy, some people actually have issues, but I guess INC doesn't believe in those issues.
**Why shouldn't we be lazy?**
Ephesians 4:28
**NIV:** ""Anyone who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with their own hands, that they may have something to share to those in need.""
\- Is this implying that lazy people are thieves and therefore we should not be lazy? What?
\- It also implied that father's of each household should provide for their families because they also have needs. I personally dislike how the minister delivered this;
1.) Families should work together, by pinning all the responsibilities on the father is just wrong.
2.) He also subtly underpinned women as 'inferior' by saying submit to your husbands and take care of the children. While it isn't wrong to take care of children, why did he only mention mothers? Fathers play an important role in raising up children too ya know.
**(I didn't write down the question for further verses)**
Ecclesiastes 9:10
**NIV:** ""Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom.""
\- I think the question is along the lines of; ""Why should we be hardworking?""
\- Minister also points out that we should not turn down opportunities in jobs and in school. Talk about irony in here. Any opportunities in places without a worship service is visibly looked down upon, hah! caught you INC!
Ephesians 6:6-7
**NIV:** ""Obey them not only to win their favour when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people,""
\- I dislike the word 'slave' because no one is. No one deserves to be shackled by some sort of belief. So, even though the owner or your boss is not watching, you should work 100%.
\- The question is along the lines of; ""Why must we work diligently even when the master is not watching?""
Proverbs 4:5-6
**NIV:** ""Get wisdom, get understanding; do not forget my words or turn away from them.""
""Do not forsake wisdom, and she will protect you; love her, and she will watch over you.""
\- This verse was used to say that God utilises the Church Administration for us to be informed of God's commandment. (Can anyone tell me the connection of the Church Administration to this verse? lol)
**(I remember the question!) - What is God telling the Rich people?**
Deuteronomy 8:12-14
**NIV:** ""Otherwise, when you eat and are satisfied, when you build fine houses and settle down,""
""and when your herds and flocks grow large and your silver and gold increase and all you have is multiplied,""
""then your heart will become proud and you will forget the LORD YOUR GOD, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.""
\- Basically, it's saying that if you become rich, your heart will be clouded by greed and power and will forget your Lord Almighty who gave you everything.
\- It is also emphasised that if God gave you abundant blessings in life, then he can easily take it away if he deems you unworthy anymore. (talk about always having to please someone from above lmao)
Proverbs 30:7-9
**NIV:** ""Two things I ask of you, Lord; do not reuse me before I die:""
""Keep falsehood and lies far from me; give me neither poverty nor riches, but give me only my daily bread.""
""Otherwise, I may have too much and disown you and say, 'Who is the Lord?' Or I may become poor and steal, and so dishonor the name of my God.
\- Minister points out, maybe the reason why our prayers of getting abundant blessings isn't answered is because God knows what will turn out of us if we become rich(????????????? Like tf??????) So we should learn how to be contented.
**My thoughts on this;**
If being rich is based on hard work, then the farmers and other jobs considered to be for untouchables, shouldn't they be rich by now?
And if the things we ask are only enough for our needs, then why tf do we have so many donations in the church?
Please stop the gender discrimination!
This lesson sucked.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,SOME PEOPLE are poor because they are lazy. Some are poor because of circumstances they can't control. Some are poor because they are foolish enough to give to much of their money to some church.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,"This is so stupid, they’re probably going to use this as some precursor about working hard so you could offer more to the church. 🙄
Also, if you’re not being lazy, are the “blessings” from God or the fact that you’re working hard? 🤔",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,"""Poor ppl are poor because they are lazy"" was the first sentence the minister said and I knew in that moment that... That's bs.
Farmers in my country make less than $5 a month, luckily sometimes they earn $10 a month even if they are a family of +8 members. The garbage ppl too, they wake up from their garbage houses to search valuable stuff and sell it to survive. I'm not even kidding.
Later I saw the members sitting near me who work hard, have family but are still getting less than the minimun salary.
Are they calling them lazy? Or is it for us? Where the labor demmand is getting really hard because this is a competitive era? We live in a different decade, it was easy before.
This lesson also generalize a lot and is just an excuse to overwork members and blame the unemployed ppl, younger ones because they don't work. I again will reapeat this, they don't even care about the situation of a country.
If they don't work, they can't ""donate"" money for fatboy Manalo.
I then slept lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,Mid-week is about not being lazy and not blaming the government for things that are going wrong 🤷🏻♀️,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,"The lesson was an outlier, but the 7 Deadly Themes came out during the closing prayer. The minister cried out for God to bless the brethren ESPECIALLY with the first setting aside coming up. 🙄",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,Planning to sleep on it again... hahaha..,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,"**I had to attend Filipino WS. Verses written may be miswritten to my notes.**
Lesson was about not being lazy, but INC-fied so the actual lesson is ""Don't be lazy especially at work, plus people blame everything for it.""
Possible **OUTLIER**?
# Sermon
**Opening Remarks:** Oh noes, the world is poor, so they blame different things like wars. Oh, #1 reason why they're poor? Laziness. *this is true to an extent IMO wow*
**Sermon:** *Personal notes are in italics.*
* **2 Thessalonians 3:10** \- Are you lazy? Then YOU DO NOT DESERVE FOOD! *Welcome to the Promised Land, if you don't work, this is gulag.*
* **Genesis 3:17** \- The first law people violated.
* **Proverbs 10:4** \- Poor works with idle hands, hand of the diligent makes him rich. *Atleast that makes sense.*
* **Ephesians 4:28** \- Thief who is now a believer should be a hardworking man now. *Lazy people are thieves. But that's just a theory. A CULT THEORY.*
* **Ecclesiastes 9:10** **^(Good News Translation)** ***^(GNT)*** \- Work hard because there's gonna be nothing when you die which are you destined to be.
* **Ephesians 6:7** \- Do work cheerily just like you serve the Lord and not human beings. God is watching. *The minister began to talk about debts (utang) and said we cry over them...when y'all really cry over prayers lol.*
* **Somewhere in Proverbs (Minister did not disclose specific chapter and verse)** \- *Minister assumed that the first thing we do is to check the salary like it's a bad thing. Don't we do that to give our family a good life, but most importantly, for your cult members to give lots of cash to EVM? Minister then shits out assumptions that we are so tired from work that we sleep in WS to compensate. Then shat out a generalization: ""The lazy always has food in their minds, always wants high quality food, expert in sleep, their job is sleep."" Bitch, laziness =/= wanting to sleep 24/7 and just eat. They could be active in different things, you fucking dumbass wanker in a suit. Sorry for the harsh language lol.*
* **Deutronomy 8:12** \- Rich people forget about God because they're rich now. *Another generalization. ""Give to Him, give back to Him. If you die, you can't bring them to the promised land"". Give Thanks to God, get laods of blessings. Then invites everyone to lagak (Dec 28-29 for my locale), so yay.*
**Closing Remarks:** The tEMpORaRy World is a struggle. It gets poorer, it gets more chaotic, and WorLdLy PeoPLe blame everything on whatever the fuck is happening. ""Before I die, don't make me a liar or \[...\], just give me food before I learn how to steal"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,It's a relative outlier though (based on how the minister in our local taught it).,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,"Yay! More people giving detailed lessons. Looks like I did miss a few things, such as **Deuteronomy 8:12** and was missing verses up to 14.
Weirdly enough, when the minister in my locale mentioned about Proverbs 30:7-9, he didn't mention the book, chapter and verse as far as I can remember (but I'm sure he didn't).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,I had the same thoughts lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,"Yeah lol when the minister said “poor ppl are poor cuz they’re lazy” i was like, wait hold up what. I legit raised my eyebrows cuz that statement was dumb.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,Utter bullshit! I fucking hate these never ending offerings,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,so they are telling their members to work hard so they can offer more money?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,Everything? Or is there a specific part of the lesson?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,"Basically, but they will go ***iF YoU hAvE WoRShIp sErViCe thAt CoINCiDeS wiTh WoRK TheN Don'T aTtEnD WorK.***",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,"A relative outlier, in the sense of this subreddit's *Seven Deadly Themes*. I could be wrong, though.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,"Yeah their logic doesnt make sense. Work hard don’t be lazy. When you work hard, you get tired (something that ministers dont experience at all) and then attend ws and you fall asleep. You get scolded for working and not going to ws. Like what bro. You’re scolding me for working hard then falling asleep in ws when i’m dead ass tired. But yall said that we must work hard so we dont be lazy",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,Yeah from what I read it seems like an outlier. Still a sucky lesson when you go to church and want something uplifting to hear.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,OHHHHHH I’m sorry! I didn’t realise it! >~<,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,"My SO once related this into a ""damned if you do, damned if you don't situation"". You'd skip WS since you're tired and sleepy, you'd get no ""spiritual blessings"". Alternatively you'd come to WS dead tired, you'd sleep all the way, you'd still get nothing from it. A minister even pointed out to me once that the former is more blessed (in the INC narrative anyway) since in such a situation an officer/minister would talk to the member in question, provide some advice then give them a prayer. The more empathetic church authorities would even help the member find a WS that fits his/her personal schedule.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,"Yeah truly. I was like; omg not an offering WS, hurray! But then this came out 😂😅",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Dec 18 - Dec 19, 2019)",ecceqc,2019-12-18,I remember once I heard a minister saying that if you don't attend the worship service you are been lazy. This was a few years before the scandal (early EVM era).,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ecceqc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_19/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"Something to add, our minister had an opener that caught my attention. He mentioned the recent bill that the Philippine Congress and Senate were pushing, the bill that lowers to age of criminal liability from 15 to 12 years old. At first, I was surprised and thought that the minister was going to disagree and criticize the bill.
Turns out he only used that as an segue into the lesson, that the bill shows how the youth of today is becoming more and more evil. Instead of you know, how ridiculous that bill of law is. Why did I expect any different from these people?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"**1/16/2020 - Bad situation, check my latest post on this date. No detailed lessons until I do bother myself to create one.**
It was about ""INC good world bad"" and youth shouldn't go for the WOrdlY PlEasUReS, such as.... Divorce, extramarital sex, premarital sex, casual sex...
And yes, wow look at that, the minstroll mentioned homosexuality! Ugh.
The 2nd ministroll bitched and moaned about ""YOLO"" as a ticket to commit ""sINs"" and ""WOrldLy PleaSurES"". This dumbfuck wanker assumed that divorce, extra/premarital sex, casual sex and homosexuality are ""in"" or ""trending"". How fucking dense can this shithead be? Nobody, not even non-INC members say ""Oh, I'll divorce with my wife even tho I have kids because it's a cool trend"" or ""I'm straight but lemme just go gay, seems like a cool trend"".
And yes, they did mention about marrying a non-member.
*Sidenote: I've seen lots of bigotry lessons this month, is January INC's Bigotry Month?*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"What I find really disgusting is the last part of the lesson where they said that when an INC member married an outsider, he must seperate or end their marriage (hiwalayan), and choose God. So its either you choose sanlibutan (world) which is represented by your spouse or God.
The minister said that it's hard but that is the only way God can accept you for marrying an outsider.
They did not even thought of the consequences of that SH*T teaching to the child or children of the spouses. F*ck this INCULT! F*ck Manalo for distorting the Scriptures which supposed to promote love and unity, not broken family!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"Wow, what a negative lesson. I bet you EVM was proud when he wrote it. I think it will continue again this weekend. Good thing I don't attend anymore, would have possibly stormed out midway through the sermon and driven to a place far, far away. Seriously WTF ""Any marriage outside the church is doomed to fail and if those couples look happy, they're only acting."" Only acting, really?. What a load of rubbish. Me and my wife have been outside the church for 4 years and I can prove to you that we are not acting and we're a lot more happy outside this paranoid culture that claims it loves the brotherhood but in honesty does not.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"I didn’t listen half way thru it but I grasped some phrases like; “don’t marry outside the church/non-believers”, “if you were expelled for marrying outside, come back by convincing your spouse to convert”, “youths are passionate, however, we should not copy the outsiders”, “young people, ask God for a true INC loving partner in life”, etc etc",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"A truckload of exclusivist garbage.
Although, *on paper* I could get behind one rule; the discouragement of *binhi* towards entering romantic relationships. After all, teenagers are notorious for risk taking behaviors and emotionally charged decisions. *However* this does raise a certain paradox. *How will they learn in the first place if they have not experienced it*; after all, dating is something gleaned through personal encounters.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"As what others have said, the lesson was GARBAGE!
Manalo should be the one who drunk the hemlock, and not Socrates, for corrupting the minds of the youth! The whole lesson was disgusting!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"Our locale was renting out space at a progressive Catholic church and even has Pride flags and crucifixes (that INC mocks so much) in their lobby. I wonder what they'll think when they see all these hateful teachings being taught by this ""religion"" that rents their building?
I'm honestly tempted to contact their office about it. Has anyone thought of doing something similar? I doubt they'll care or kick out the cult (since INC pays them for rent) but I figured I'd at least try to inform them what this ""church"" is all about.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"Homeboy was angry bcs he visited certain inc church in america and saw some female members using mini skirts lol
Then talked about sex is the new trend among teenagers which I think it is false, I read somewhere while ago that that was a trend in the 80's - 90's because the ppl wanted to be included in a group but atm is not lile that.
And again, idk if this minister is the one who creates all of the examples for each versicle but this time he only blame it on women. One of those comments in the end of the lesson were like this: if she married a non-member and he beat her the shit up, she DESERVES it and that's a NONO, I'm freaking out, because I remembered the darkest moment in my friend's life.
My friend's dad IS a member, still a deacon, and he abused physically all of his family. My friend who was 15-16 at that time came to school with bruises in her body (he hit her with a belt), and the things he did to her mom were more BRUTAL, and do yall know what the minister did to stop him? Nothing ofc, what do you expect, he knew what was happening and didn't want to be involved. So when my minister said that, I remembered that non-members are sometimes better that the ones inside of the church, my sibling is now dating a non-member who is smarter and better, and that friend who I was talking about is now happily married to a non-member too.
Just remembering those moments makes me cry of anger, I wanted to punch really hard my minister when he said that.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,What's up with negative lessons lately?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"My uncle holds a very high office in our local, higher than a head deacon. In filipino it is called Obispo but such position no longer exist. I was surprise to learn that he physically hurt or abuse his wife for more than 50 yrs, which makes her promised to herself that she will not cry over him on his wake. Which she did. Many people visited his wake. Many are crying, but not his own wife. Not even once. It was noticed by many, and from their i heard the reason right from my aunties and titas. Just sharing.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"Eeeew I wouldn't want to hang out with fanatic OWE cultists outside my family, they'll report me the first wrong thing I'll do. Non-OWE members are much more nicer and is not as judgmental as OWE cultists. I just lay low so they won't recognize me when they see me hanging out with friends enjoying the night drinking beer.
I'd rather play video games, its where I learn life lessons and useful skills rather than attending a repetitive WS. Youtube is also a social media which I use to watch scientific videos, much better than shitty quality, repetitive, and over dramatic 240p webex WS.
Again, with the ignorance to mental health. Depression is real people, even OWE members get depressed they just deny it. I always get triggered when they discuss this during WS, I wish we can talk back to the minister.
I hope my mum or dad won't force me to give out more than 5% of my salary. I don't want to pay for EVM's personal jet, and that Phil. Arena.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"As usual, no citations, no statistics. Only ""prophecies"".
IF I WANTED REALLY STUPID SHIT I'D GO TO THE WEIRD PARTS OF YOUTUBE OR DISCORD, NOT IN WS. But tbh there's no use in expecting more from these people.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,">Any marriage outside the church is doomed to fail and if those couples look happy, they're only acting.
I had to confirm this one in google during the lesson because they tend to give false information.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"The INC will use *anything* that fits their doomsday bullshit and hide behind ""authority"". Ministers can be the biggest idiots sometimes.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"And INC has been contributing to the very root of the problem why the youth is becoming more evil and criminals are getting younger and younger. POVERTY!
And the lesson was intended for the morality of the youth, yet not a single passage (talata) to teach how and why they should help these young criminals? How and why they should contribute to the elimination of poverty? Not a single passage on why must we look at the said problem in a deeper perspective?
Sorry for my grammar, I'm both disgusted and angry because of INC's shit for today.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,bruh every month is bigotry month,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,This is completely against 1 Cor 7:12-14,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"The minister here said it was written by EGM.
Lol. Why would a couple pretend that they're happy? Just to prove that marriage outside the cult can be a happy one? They don't need to pretend because it's the truth!
I think the ones who are acting are in the INCult because they need to protect their tungkulin (offices) or kahalalan (election). F*ck you EVM.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,Again? Didn't they just say this lesson in the last weekend? Well.. I shouldn't be surprised. They trying to keep the youth inside the church.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"""ask for a true INC loving partner""
Goddamn. *Choice of words* matters. These people have mastered the art of using god as a red herring.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"LOL, I wonder what the minister has to say to all the 30+ year old unmarried women devoted to the INC.
*""God has blessed you with many cats, and ample time to serve the INC. It was his plan.""*
I feel pretty bad for my wife's sisters and female cousins. I've met 5 of them between the ages of 28-39. All professional, financially secure, generally nice people...and literally zero prospects for dating within the INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,And one heck of garbage it truly is!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"> I'm honestly tempted to contact their office about it.
Seriously, tell them. They need to know.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,You should tell them and or record (though be careful) their worship services and give it to them anonymously.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"Nonmembers in deep shit: tHeY arE cUrSeD!!!!!1!1!1!!!!
Members in deep shit: gOd iS teStiNg tHem
OWEs lack empathy in general",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"This reminds me of my exfiance. Her brothers, especially the older, would be the hell out of her for not attending church or because she wanted to leave the church to marry me. Beatings were so bad that one time he broke her arm and another time he caused her to have stitches on her head. She made a complaint to the minister and told her she deserved it because her brother's reason was righteous. Needless to say the brother was always out partying and having sex with many girls (INC and non-INC) and kept it hidden. And if you are reading this, Glenn, yes, I am talking about you. This was going on well into her 30s and she lives in her own home.
This cult is complete garbage.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,I'm not surprised what this minister said. I always find that a lot of the ministers (and or male officers) inside INC are misogynistic. It's always the women's fault.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"The thing is, my mum was sad when dad was away because he has duties to attend to church, that means he neglected us, his family.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"They've already made it clear that ""evil is evil"" *regardless of context*. They've spent WSes shitting on petty theives, drug addicts, and the like, with absolutely nothing on how we can actually help these people.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"As long as you are one with the leader, you can do worldly pleasures such as dancing, etc. But if you judge the leader, then that is a problem. We'll proudly boot you and your family away.
They say love the brotherhood, but in reality love is not that kind inside the INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,Yeah probably a modified lesson by EGM based on the fundamental beliefs. But modified in a way so it would sound more aggressive and intimidating.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"They wouldn't be able to comprehend what you had just pointed out(even the more empathetic ministers). Because to them, service to INC is ""the greatest joy of all"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"They have to repeat it again and again because to many don't listen anyway. Of course, one of the reasons many don't listen is that they repeat everything again and again. Kind of a cycle I guess.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"Agree. Perhaps they think that the members were not, in reality, listening to the WS anymore so they need to repeat it just to make it sure.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,the one thing that sort of bugs me that's so embedded in filipino culture (as well as other cultures) is the importance of having a family. not everyone wants to have kids or can have kids due to medical reasons. having a religion telling you that it's God's will to have a family? no way.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"That's why many church workers ""mangagawa"" or young single guys are going for the parents of the choir they want for permission to date their daughter withour her consent...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"So I guess my Ex is going to have Cats. LoL. I almost converted until they wanted me to write a statement to EVM, stating that I am not dating anyone within the Church. I was like ""WTF,"" and I have to do it for EVM. That when I knew that this was a cult. My ex is still trying to do convince me to join. I said, to her leave your church for me. She said, come with me and join, we can do it together. I was done. Her desire for the INCult was stronger than my Desires for me. Sucks, but I need to move forward.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,Send also the CBC Church of Secrets report link to them.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"I second the motion. The cult is complete garbage, indeed!
And what fate does a complete garbage like incult deserve? INCineration. Hahaha!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"I remember this story and it makes me upset about what it did to you and to her. I always envision men who beat women that they will end up in prison to get their comeuppance.
I agree INC cult (and all the cults out there) are garbage.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,This is embarassing for INC health professionals. They know their vaunted leader is spewing bullshit *yet can't do anything about it*.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"""bUt yOu sHouLdn'T bE sAd whEn tHeY prIoriTizE teH inC oVer YoU""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,I'm pretty sure legitimate brotherhoods do not worship their leader figures.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"This mindset precedes religious dogma, and it technically only becomes toxic when shoved down the throats of people *who do not want to start families*. Those who do, however, must be reminded of responsible planned parenthood.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"In fairness to the admin, INC women *harassed* by their suitors can report them to higher ministers in their respective districts for disclipinary sanction (I know some cases). However, the vast majority of OWE panties drop at the sight of the goddamn magic barong.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"This is what the cats wanted after all. In INC, C is for Cats.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"Writing a statement that you are not dating a member? That is the first time I heard that one. Almost every man I have met that joined without having an INC family was dating a member.
Are you in the Philippines? Just wondering if that is a requirement in the Philippines.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,Specially when the guy has a position on the church... OWE are dying to have a officer family member...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"The USA. I told that to my EX as will, and she never heard of that too.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"If they enforced those rules with an *iron fist* I reckon more than half of the total INC youth population in the Ph will get Thanos snapped away. In other countries, it's highly likely that only Filipino members will remain.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Mid-week worship service examination (Jan 15 - Jan 16, 2020)",ep24fo,2020-01-15,"You are right, they would no longer be able to get any new members among non filipinos. I could see that causing an income shortage eventually.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ep24fo/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_15_jan_16/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"The lord EVM said the members should be courageous.
Says the guy who didn't have the balls to confront the protesters and whistleblowers 😂😂",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,Same bull crap. Different day. The lord EVM preached that we should be brave in our Faith. Yeah... says the man who is afraid of Polar Vortex. Whose security in places he officiated has a very tight security complete with metal detectors. That speaks volume on his trust and faith to the skydaddy.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,I heard it’s going to be a “Pay to Pray WebEx” 😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"**Note: I am weak at Spanish/Tagalog cardinal numbers and Bible book namesdespite being a native. Thus, things may be incorrect.**
*Sorry for my absence in the last 2 examination posts. The first one I forgot to bring my pen and paper with, and the second one my pen fell at home!*
Yay! A WebEx lesson! Like we needed more of these!
TLDR: Don't be a fucking pussy
# Sermon
**Seven Deadly Themes noticed:** *Don't leave the INC, Other religions are wrong*
**Verses Read:** *Personal notes in italics.*
* **Matthew 24:21** \- Persecution! WW1 started on 7/27! Calamity! Sufffering! They get worse as time goes by! We must not be like nonmembers! Typhoons! Earthquakes! = The Second Coming!
* **2 Timothy 1:7** \- God didn't give you the spirit of cowardness. Don't be a coward. INC is a lifetime commitment, despite 95% of the time you were born inside this shit cult.
* **John 16:33** \- Those who are with God must be strong. Outside INC you are extremely screwed and got 100x the hardships, anxiety and failures. We should be glad even if we are fucked because INC! Cue EVM boasting about members doing evangelical mission during a volcanic eruption.
* **Revelation 21:8** \- Being a coward displeases God. So does idolatry, and fucktons more sins. All of these will throw you into the Lake of Fire. Same old same old... *Thanks* u/ppc633 *for correcting me.*
* **Habakkuk \[?\]** \- Stuff comes from God. Idolatry bad (ironic). *Thanks* u/g0spH3LL *and* u/notkindathrowaway *for notifying me the book; exact chapter and verse still unknown.*
* **Psalms 7:38 \[?\]** \- Just be good to God and you get blessings!
* Mention of **Isaiah 41:9** \- FaR EaSt, jUlY 27 1914
* **Isaiah 41:10** \- ""I am with you! I will make you strong"". Other religions are failing!
* **2 Corinthians 12:9** \- Things mentioned here are enough for you to be brave. INC cannot be cowardly! Even if we are suffering, we shoud be happy! *Some buffering began to happen here. Lol*
* **Joshua 1:7** \- Follow the law and teachings of Moses. The teachings of FYM ""never changed""! We should be scared of disobeying them instead. Be loyal to God and you will survive even the shittiest of scenarios!
* **1 Chronicles 1:8,50 \[?\]** \- You should obey what God says
* **Unknown Verse (buffering issues happened)** \- We aren't failing. The holy city waits. All of the prophecies except the 2nd coming have been fulfilled!
* **Psalms 91:14** \- Want to be saved? God, of course!
**Edit 02/03/2020** \- fixed some verses",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"I really hate WEBEX too! We really don't want to see EVM from the screen if that's what you're thinking. And when I see those screens when I come in, I be like, oh boy this another an hour and a half of worship. Certainly didn't prepare my butt this Sunday.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,I need this lol. I'm planning to get a *katibayan* (certification of attendance) without attending.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"First read verse is Matthew 24:21 used Last DAYS Bible translation. It is a paraphrased Bible vs actual translation from original Greek of the NT. Now this Bible has no actual Tagalog translation so INC is actually translating that verse. Now they used the term “Kakilakilabot” ( really scary)whereas the Ang Biblia (Independent translation) has “kapighatian” (sorrow).
Another deceptive brainwashing and scary tactic technique of INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"**Notes:**
I was able to smuggle my phone in during the Webex's prayer after the lesson and record most of it; if anyone's interested, I'll dm/post the unlisted link to the video of it
Also, what's this [symbol?](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306611126068576256/673608876494553128/Snip-it_1580671254140.jpg) And?
>
[CWS Lesson - 02/02/2020](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306611126068576256/673608766008328242/20200202_123057.jpg)
**Whom The Youth Should Recognize As Their Hope And Confidence**
Q1. Whom should members of the Church of Christ recognize as their hope and confidence from the days of their youth?
A1. The Lord God
>Ps. 71:5 NIV
Q2. Whom should be recognized by those who truly trust in God as their Creator?
A2. It is the Lord who took us from our mother's womb
>Ps. 71:6
Q3. What should God's people, especially the children, never forget to do?
A3. To remember our Creator before the days of trouble come
>Eccles. 12:1-2 NCV
Q4. Why are there children who grow up to become bad people?
A4. They do whatever they want and follow their heart's desires
>Eccles. 11:8-10 GNB
Q5. What should young people who follow their hearts' desire understand or realize?
A5. For all the things they do, God will bring them into judgment
>Eccles. 11:9 GNB
Q6. In whom should the youth not put too much trust?
A6. Do not put too much trust in your friends
>Mic. 7:5
Q7. Why should we not put too much trust in our friends?
A7. Bad company ruins good character
>I Cor. 15:33 GNB
Q8. What is the proof that we should not put too much trust in friends?
A8. David was abandoned by his friends in his troubles
>Ps. 38:11
Q9. Who else was abandoned by his friends?
A9. Job was abandoned and despised
>Job 19:19
Q10. Did our Lord Jesus Christ also experience being abandoned or left alone by everybody?
A10. Jesus was abandoned or left alone by everyone, except the Father
>John 16:32
Q11. Who are the blessed ones with whom God will abide?
A11. Blessed are those who keep God's ways
>Prov. 8:32-33
Q12. What will be the great blessing for those who listen and hold firmly to instructions?
A12. They won't be caught in any trap; they will be safe and not stumble
>Prov. 4:10-13 ETRV
Q13. What does God forbid those who hold on to His teachings?
A13. Do not go where evil people go, do not follow the example of the wicked, avoid their ways, stay away from them, and keep on going the right path
>Prov. 4:14-15 GNB & NCV
Q14. When should God's people begin receiving his teachings and instructions?
A14. From their earliest childhood
>Ps. 71:17
Q15. What is God's promise to those who do not forget His laws?
A15. They will win God's favor
>Prov. 3:1-4",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"I didn't listen much of last night's snooze fest, but I do remember his excellency saying something about it is evil to be a coward, and that INC members shouldn't be cowards. I think he was implying that its cowardly to do things such as leave the INC, or not take an office when one is offered, or not propogating the gospel according to Manalo.
Laughable every bit of it. It actually takes quite a bit of bravery to leave the INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,I came from a district where Webex was not implied for the worship service this weekend. The teachings this tome was about not to fucking choose your job/career over worship services. Lol fuck yeah as if you're giving me a dime to feed myself and live in exchange of me abandoning my job lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"2nd verse read II Timothy 1:7 EVM said “Ang kausap ni Apostol Pablo, sino? Yung MGA kaanib sa anong iglesia. (Apostle Paul is talking to who? The MEMBERS of which church?)
Hey EVM, II Timothy is Apostle Paul’s letter to guess who? Go read the previous 1-6 verses or better yet the title of this epistle is the answer . Quit preaching this false doctrine of your grand dad that Christ formed a Religion or a sect that requires membership.
Hey OWEs this the embarrassing doctrine that we listen to twice a week.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"Spot on!
Edouard is a Coward!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"I believe he's an atheist. EVM is not that stupid to actually believe what he teaches. Even Felix and EGM. If they truly want to establish a religion that seeks truth, they will allow its members to read the Bible and act not like a cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,A shitshow of redundant BULLSHITRY as always. What do we expect from the lord master shitter himself lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,That's why I don't want to attend. I really really hate WebEX,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,There is no Revelation 21:28 as chapter 21 only has 27 verses so it will have to be one of EVM's favorite verses = Revelation 21:8 about the lake of fire.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,">Haggakuk
It's Habakkuk",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,Thanks so much for the detailed report as always. Wiki list has been updated.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed.
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"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,This comment is approved. Others are able to view it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,">Also, what's this [symbol?](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/306611126068576256/673608876494553128/Snip-it_1580671254140.jpg) And?
Yes. Ampersand for and (Et). The ampersand is how it was evolved to a conjoined e and t.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"Tell evm he needs to stop being a coward. Lol how about doing a debate for your church, speak to news media for your church, and not hide behind for filipino "" top flight"" security teams hahahah. Does he not trust in God when his minions over do it in their prayers for him?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed.
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"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,This comment is approved. Others are able to view it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"Shame on you for ""being a lover of money"" /s. You don't need to eat anyways holy supper is coming up 😂",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"I like that, Edouard Coward 😂😂",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,Edcouwardo Vee Manalow,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"yes he is, so as his father and grand father. and also his uncle jun santos.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"Hard to say really. He grew up in a life of wealth, influence, and power. Growing up under those circumstances might actually convince the less self aware that they are ""special"". Basic Psychology, you tell someone they are the chosen one from birth, they start to believe it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"I have not attend in years. What I use to do is get the certificate of attendance before the worshit service started then go to the bathroom and sit on the toilet. During opening prayer I would walk out holding my ass and if I was stopped, I would tell them I shit in my pants. Lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,"Hated it too. The audio quality was awful. And during the prayer this guy even mentioned ""bless this technology""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,Lol fuck yes where they will feed me the holy Otap piece and a shot of Welch juice. Jesus Christ it's Thursday=WS day today 😭😭,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Weekend worship service examination (Feb 01 - Feb 02, 2020)",ex0kyh,2020-01-31,Really?? Lol hahahahah thats crazy,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ex0kyh/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2020)",fs6nmj,2020-03-30,"Starts with God gave us opportunity to have a good future then in classic INC convoluted doctrine ends with INC has advantage and must remain faithful servant which in INC world means DO NOT LEAVE INC.
Genesis 2:16-17; 3:1-6;17-19;23-24 (it would have been shorter if minister just reads Chapter 2-3 and just let Moses tell the story. Adam and Eve got it good, listened to Satan to eat fruit BAM cursed. Just like my ancestors. They were good with knowing real Jesus then like Satan, FYM came along and told them that they need to be members of FYM INC to be saved BAM eternal curse of generational enslavement.)
Deuteronomy 30:19-20 (story for the Jews which I am not)
Matthew 4:3-11 (Satan can also twist the words of God just like how FYM INC's cut and paste taking the verse out of context technique)
Philippians 2:9-11
Ephesians 6:11-16 (INC says only in WS can we receive words of God. This very short book of Ephesians contradicts the whole doctrine of INC about by works we are saved plus membership. Get the true message directly from Paul not FYM)
Proverbs 4:11-13 (multi go to verse)
Isaiah 48:18 (multi go to verse)
Psalms 91:14-16 (multi go to verse)
These multi go to verses are INC favorites that they read more than 3 times already within the last year that I started documenting. INC doctrine cannot afford to go to all verses because their false doctrine will not work.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/fs6nmj/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2020)",fs6nmj,2020-03-30,"All I remember from last night's lesson was don't lose your membership.
One of my acquaintances from another locale said they were getting the priviledge of a webex this weekend from Mr money for nothing, checks for free himself, EVM. I haven't heard anything about it from our locale yet, but then I probably wasn't listening.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/fs6nmj/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2020)",fs6nmj,2020-03-30,"The RM in our locale twisted the 'works' to be Propagation and Offering. He chastises those brethren who insist of giving their offering in one shot once they go to actual worship service in the chapel. He said the prayer he puts is enough to bless those offering and therefore they now belong to the Lord and must be collected as per the administrator's instruction. I'm looking at all the faces of brethren in the webex and they all appear impassive, unfazed or simply tuned out. Its really hard to figure how they are receiving those stupid drivel.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/fs6nmj/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2020)",fs6nmj,2020-03-30,Thank you...:),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/fs6nmj/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2020)",fs6nmj,2020-03-30,Thank you for this 🌺,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/fs6nmj/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2020)",fs6nmj,2020-03-30,That meant money and attendance.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/fs6nmj/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2020)",fs6nmj,2020-03-30,Thank you 🌸,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/fs6nmj/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 21 - Apr 23, 2020)",g58w0v,2020-04-20,what happened for us to hit 4k members this in a couple of days??,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g58w0v/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_21_apr_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 21 - Apr 23, 2020)",g58w0v,2020-04-20,"Last nights Worshit snorefest was as expectedTold us not to fall asleepNot sure what theme was, but I would say Don't Leave
Number of Bible Versions used - 4
Acts 20:28 mentioned - No",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g58w0v/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_21_apr_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 21 - Apr 23, 2020)",g58w0v,2020-04-20,There was a real good post that was put in the philippines sub about the INC that came from this sub. I think that is why we are growing pretty fast now,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g58w0v/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_21_apr_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 21 - Apr 23, 2020)",g58w0v,2020-04-20,"Here's the post if you didn't see it...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/g58dm4/a_friendly_warning_to_all_single_pinoys_and_their/",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g58w0v/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_21_apr_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 21 - Apr 23, 2020)",g58w0v,2020-04-20,I was on autopilot...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g58w0v/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_21_apr_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 21 - Apr 23, 2020)",g58w0v,2020-04-20,"Who knows, maybe eventually the sub will become so big that you will have to split into a tagalog and a english version.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g58w0v/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_21_apr_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 21 - Apr 23, 2020)",g58w0v,2020-04-20,No matter how big we get we should be one forum so all can see in one place how INC is a shame and ruins lives.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g58w0v/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_21_apr_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"Yes,its the great EVM will lead the WS. And mind you,they prohibited seating in a couch during WS. The memo says,dining chairs or folding chairs will do.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,An act of rebellion ever since this home webex started is I scratch my forehead to the tip of my nose with my middle finger.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"I’m not an active member but when the lockdown in Toronto started I attended one WebEx WS and it was the same message INC drills into its herd.
What I question, and I hope people who attend the WebEx or are active members think about this...why the secrecy? Why do members have to use Telegram to say “where here, Po”? Why dress up in “holy attire” in your own home and sit in an orderly manner? My rule favourite is you sign on 1hr and half before the WS or get kicked off the WebEx. It’s a flippin’ WebEx!!!
I get the offering part and it’s why I stopped attending. It so blatant that INC just wants your money but the additional rules being imposed to members even at home makes me sick.
My parents are OWE especially my mom. I’ll swing by there crib to set up the laptop for some home cook food. It just breaks my heart to see how INC screws with your head.
Ps I’ll try to record the next service but I’m pretty sure if you’re on here you’ll know what it’s about.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"For the most part, I spent most of it trying to avoid falling asleep. But I did hear one part that got my interest. EVM quoted the part of the bible that said to avoid long repetitive prayers. Said that we don't have to pray the long and repetivie prayers to God. And then the ending prayer was long and repetitive. Basically, they acknowledged the bible verse, then ignored it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,If I could even understand it let’s is gonna be in tagalog...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"Oh boy, another snoozefest !!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,Add: They will do a dry run today for the WS tom. And you need to wear WS attire for the dry run.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,Is it Evm again for weekend service? I didn’t attend the mid week service haha so Idk,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"just done a standard snoozefest, not sure how i would categorise it, all about destruction etc etc, yada yada",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"The minister really said in his prayer ""Please Lord Jesus, ask the father to end this pandemic""
yes, Jesus Christ will look for the Father in heaven and ask him
We'll wait for his answer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"Noted a new euphemism for the word for ""offering"" was introduced. The new word is ""update"".
Instead of using the word ""offering"" to remind the captive audience about making sure they get their monies post service; the minion used the word ""updates"" taken from the heading on the weekend service logsheet that lists pouch offering, setting-aside, aid to humanity etc. etc. or whatever scam they are running.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"People are saying that there was a Pay-per-view Worship Service lead by yours truly, but in our locale it was just a regular service. Last week, however we did get a pay-per-view. It’s very odd it might just be us in our region.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,LOL...so many rules. Next they'll have a rule on thickness of cushions on upright chairs too. Hilarious they realise that they're so boring people are sleeping on their couches though. Embarrassing for them. Guess they need to improve the quality of the product they are selling.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"Wow, they just want to control everything! Holy sht.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,Wtf. As if dressing up wasn’t enough too,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"Then they’re gonna make you buy their own custom designed benches/ chairs for a premium for utmost unity ;)
Just kidding they wouldn’t. But damn wouldn’t be surprised.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"The great and powerful Oz, I mean EVM.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,Bingo,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"Oh, another PPV? I read on incfromtheedge that it was just EVM and a bunch of ministers in a room, no members. Just a telecast of his service to the members. How'd they do the choir part?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"i made it into a wet run. Shots of tequila, before and after.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,Still don’t understand that. it’s just a worship service lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,literally so stupid and unnecessary,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/exIglesiaNiCristo) if you have any questions or concerns.*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,This comment is approved. Others are able to view it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"Isn't praying to Jesus not allowed, I remember some ""missionary"" minister came to our workplace and preached that intercessory prayers through saints and Jesus is a sin, and how their way of praying is the correct way.
(A lurking Catholic here)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"You'd think they would finally realize that they need to make their sermons more engaging and less repetitive and boring but no, it's the members' fault for falling asleep! It's always the members' fault.
THEY WERE NEVER WRONG.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"The words showed up on the screen, and we were supposed to sing them. That was about it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,Because its the lord EVM.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"From a purely technical standpoint, I do understand why they do a dry run. Basically to ensure everyone knows the procedure to log in. But getting dressed up, sitting there for an hour waiting thru dead air, and all the other crap that goes along with it, is just someone who has to much time on their hands making stupid a$$ decisions.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"Wrong. INC does pray to Jesus, but most of the time you hear EVM's name instead of Jesus.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,Yes can someone PLEASE explain why dressing up is so important to inc?? Even if you’re doing WS at home.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"Oh thanks for clarifying
Edit: that guy was spouting bullshit then...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,"""Maintain orderliness"" one of their favourite sayings",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2020)",g725k9,2020-04-23,I’m not really sure and they make us have our cameras on and if we turn them off we’ll be kicked from the service. They also want all the members who are attending in view at all times.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g725k9/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2020)",g9gsoa,2020-04-27,"I fail to see why this person needs to be sent a birthday greeting.
We are not related nor are we friends much less acquaintances. They don't sign my paychecks.
The only thing I can deduce is that any interaction with this person if any has been indirect by n-levels of separation.
BTW: If there are any greetings that should be sent it should be the other way around. How about actually taking some time out of your day of consuming space and oxygen and sending a genuine greeting to all those people (members of the church) who actually fund your lifestyle. =)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g9gsoa/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2020)",g9gsoa,2020-04-27,"We had to do the greeting like 5 times. Its tue dumbest idea... waste of time. No one cares about whose birthday it is. I've never seen him in my life, why am I greeting him???",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g9gsoa/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2020)",g9gsoa,2020-04-27,"The b-day greeting is probably a district / local initiative as it did not reach our district. But the topic of our sermon is about the world is going down to shits. Pretty much how the minister describe what is going on currently. Then he went on and say this is foretold in the bible a very long time. And that no gov't or institution can stop it. Reading Ezekiel 7:5; Jeremiah 4:20; and other ""I will put the fear in you"" verses in the bible. All pointing to the end of the world is very near (something we surely have heard since we were young ones).
So what should we do? Pray to the Lord. - establish a devotional prayer. be prayerful. **Pray without a doubt** in your heart that what you asked for is to be granted. - lots of verses Psalms, II Chronicles, Hebrews... all from the old testament where the people are stubborn as hell and the God is a vindictive, angry and moody one;
\-- Wait a minute, if I have no doubt that god will grant my prayer, why do I keep repeating it again and again? or to the point of having to make a devotional prayer? isn't that a sign of doubting? I mean once should be enough right? God is not deaf according to Matthew 6:7-8 **7** “And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. **8** Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. . ... . -- Pretty much Jesus telling it how it should be done..
What else? Glorify his name --> do not miss a worshit service; where in every prayer they ask for God to spare EVM from all the bad things going on around. Every. prayer. Like the first one is not enough, we need a second and a third just in case God was not paying attention the first time.
What else? Do not sin. Oh btw there are 2 categories of sinning in the INC. one is the traditional sins (adultery, stealing,murder, etc. etc) which applies to everyone.
The second one is, NOT doing the good thing is also sinning! hah! This is exclusive to INC members only! and what are the good thing? Worship service, joining in the propagation activities, and of course giving your offering. Not only on the traditional offering but the special offering for the locale, the district, the aid to humanity, the yearly thanksgiving... so if you miss any of this. You sir or madam is a sinner so better increase your offering next time to atone for this.
It ended by reading a verse on Matthew chapter 4: stitching verse 6 and 19
**6** do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. **19** And my God will supply every need of yours according to his riches in glory in Christ Jesus.
There you go. Prosperity Gospel at its finest. He interpreted to abound in thanksgiving and God will not only protect you but will reward you with all riches and blessing. Its like that other preacher telling the people to give their stimulus check to him and God will bless them more.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g9gsoa/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2020)",g9gsoa,2020-04-27,We have a message not to log-off later after WS to do a greeting for Angelo Manalo's birthday. I wonder who the sanamagan is but I'll bet is a member of EVM's family.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g9gsoa/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2020)",g9gsoa,2020-04-27,Wow so basically it’s the same old same old. Thank you for the update,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g9gsoa/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2020)",g9gsoa,2020-04-27,"this is how you should do it
""happy burpday po brother angelo manalo, we love you po, oink oink!""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g9gsoa/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2020)",g9gsoa,2020-04-27,"Ah the son according to my wife. I wonder what happens to us if I disconnect before the ""Happy birthday po, we love you po!"" ego boosting shits 😆",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g9gsoa/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2020)",g9gsoa,2020-04-27,Isnt he kicked out of the cult?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g9gsoa/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2020)",g9gsoa,2020-04-27,"Isn't lying a sin? Me telling some guy I don't know I love you is a lie, and therefore a sin. The church is trying to coerce me into sin.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g9gsoa/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2020)",g9gsoa,2020-04-27,LMAO at the OinkOink,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g9gsoa/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2020)",g9gsoa,2020-04-27,That would be me. I'll be excusing myself and resetting my router.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g9gsoa/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2020)",g9gsoa,2020-04-27,"That's Angel, EVM's brother",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/g9gsoa/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,"Another long ass worship service. It offended me that I wanted to puke and was on the verge of tears.
First part of the lesson was about society’s ‘norms’. While I agree that not every norm should be followed, EVM was putting examples like jobs changing and blabla BS. Obviously jobs DO change and SOME needs change because TIMES change. Just because the bible states that we shouldn’t follow the NORMS of the people, doesn’t mean you have to take it literally.
3/4 of the lesson is about how to never let go of your membership: the same BS. That even if we’re experiencing hardships we shouldn’t let go of hope, dont let go of your duties bc GOD will help you. If your prayers aren’t answered EXAMINE yourself. [Insert some bible verses about the INC has God on their side]. People outside don’t have God (INC then stop evangelical missions bc People outside don’t deserve it - according to your standards).
1/4 PRAYERS PRAYERS PRAYERS: All about EVM two mins for God and the rest are EVM, his family and workers.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,Lesson this coming Saturday & Sunday download [here](http://www.mediafire.com/file/kxqu2pe0yddrm86/Lesson_for_May_31_2020.pdf/file).,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,Ppv this weekend to those who missed last week’s “live” ws.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,How does this sect ba conduct their service?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,"Can someone tell them why they cry every week,never seen such comedy before",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,"I was sleep deprived the past nights because of work, then this very long WS which is for me, the trashiest yet ever. After 5mins of the 2nd prayer I lost it & walked out from my family in disgust, locked our door & played Slayer's Reign in blood. I was so disgusted that I was only able to sleep in the afternoon.
I guess this is it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,"Which is the same old recycled boring lesson to elevate EVM and to continue to open your pockets. 🙄
But I do thank you for sharing. Hope members will realize how senseless these lessons are.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,This should be the same for all locales right?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,Was this the EVM PPV from last Saturday ?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,"Brace yourselves for a 6 and 9 minute long pre and post lesson prayer respectively.
It's a doozy... >\_<",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/99nbi6/what_does_a_typical_inc_service_look_like/,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,Yes sir,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,"no sir, this is for tomorrow and Sunday. But if you want the lesson from last week, you can get it [here](https://www.mediafire.com/file/527zmjlku3izmn5/ENG_2020.05.23-24_%28message%29.pdf/file). May 24, 2020",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,"Weird how evm mentioned that prayer doesn’t have to be that long. Yet, he allows 5-10 (even longer) prayer. Hypocrite.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,r/exincman comment is classic. It is so spot on for just about every Iglesia Ni Cristo WS. The only thing that changes is circular signatory.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2020)",gsm82c,2020-05-28,Thanks,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gsm82c/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,"After WS, the minister: so we don't know what the reasons are from the devil that you don't participate the CFO activities but please beloved bretheren join us...
No free will? You making people scared letting them think that it's the devil that holds them back from attending.. Bro bro bro",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,"They can’t come up with other commandments besides offering, obeying the church admin, and propagation.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,The minister also talked about how one will not lose out if they died obeying God's commands he really meant was obeying the church administration.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,Is there a PDF of tonights snorefest ?!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,"June 6, 2020 | Lesson for today. PH time. Download [here](https://www.mediafire.com/file/eecqw0pubux8go0/June_3-4%2C_2020.pdf/file)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,"*lmao* they seriously equate EVM's bizzare whims to ""god's will"" the hypocrites",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,Apostle Paul was in the church Administration back then???? 🤔🤔🤔,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,Noted for the wiki list.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,of course because the cult admin exists but god doesn't,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,u/jonassan1988 Do you have the PDF file?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,"So basically give offering and obey the Church Admin. Lol, funny they brought up that verse about false prophet there *cough cough*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,"looks like a recycled 50 yr old lesson, back then they have been preaching about the end is near rofl. they are all dead and the world hasn't ended fckers!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,Is this pdf a photo or actual text? If it's text could you just copy/paste it here instead of someone downloading a file?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,Yes wait a sec!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,Haha exactly. Wala namang bago.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01, u/Ador_De_Leon I don't know how.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,https://www.wikihow.com/Copy-and-Paste,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2020)",gv0qr0,2020-06-01,I already try it. I think it is protected. You cannot edit the file.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gv0qr0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,"""Don't become so adjusted to your culture that you don't fit into the true Christian culture of the church."" - translates into ""Let us mold you into what we want and take your individuality away .""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,INC lessons have always been piles of redundant garbage but this one was so terrible that it *literally made me nauseous* just attempting to comprehend it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,"Lesson for tomorrow June 7, 2020 download [here](https://www.mediafire.com/file/cli2nciue7fc7ju/June_6%2C_2020.pdf/file)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,"Good title, but it always goes back to offering, submit to evm, propagation, more offering, evm the hardest worker in the planet, evm the epitome of a true christian, mimic evm, evm wants you to offer more...i mean to be save on judgement day, offer abundantly, and evm the holiest of all church member.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,"The time l see ""give offering"" and ""submit to Church Administration""… 🤮",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,"As soon as I heard him talk about ""culture,"" I mentally clocked out.
I despise these kind of lectures. They're really pushing for the ""us vs. them"" mentality, and it traps my OWE parents into believing that anything outside of conservative thinking is the work of the devil.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,"I agree, the lessons ""have always been piles of redundant garbage."" It makes one wonder how most members tolerate this. It's like eating the same exact meal on a daily basis and yes, it will literally make one nauseous.
Besides the INC scandal of 2015, the murdered members, and the the useless godawful boring lessons pushed me over the edge. I'm so glad I left. The only thing I regret is that I didn't do it sooner.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,"Thanks. In the worship of Manalo service ( my new name for WS) I attended, the minister held up his Bible prop to show that he is preaching from the Bible. Unfortunately his Bible was NIV and the verses read were from The Passion Translation (whatever that is); The Message translation none of which is NIV. What a joke.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,Thank you for this. Let's me completely zone out during this whole thing.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,"TELL ME ABOUT IT! ..... Since I left I know I haven't missed out on much, no more (in their signature words) hardships, trials, and transgressions in attending boring worship services.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,"Someone needs to hammer it into their heads that even church leaders can be swayed by their so called devil. Everyone screws up, yes, but the sheer hypocrisy just doubles down on them. They're literally worshipping the church (and EVM by extension) instead of their supposed deity.
Calling EVM a goddamn frontliner is a massive insult to our true modern day heroes.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,I can only imagine how free your entire family feels now. It's a huge lifestyle change....for the better!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,They always do that. They reading Acts 20:28 (Lamsa) in filipino holding a tagalog bible. Lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,"> The Message translation none of which is NIV.
The Mess it's sometimes called. Even the author of it says it should never be used in sermons.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,So did he still read it or…?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,I agree. It is so great to have that script download being shared. Because now I have time to look up and observe the actions of those false preachers aka INC minister. A lot of them love to hear themselves talk.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2020)",gwy051,2020-06-04,He reads from a script that you can read from this post. Click on the “here” link above. The minister I got added some of his rant( which made the lesson longer) but for the most part followed the script with the excerpts from the different translations.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwy051/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2020)",hbuc0y,2020-06-18,“hey here’s something fun we can do during quarantine: Forced family hour with the family and also to annoy your friends and neighbor by sending them our youtube vids”,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hbuc0y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2020)",hbuc0y,2020-06-18,"Lesson was about being at home and quarantined.
The verses used are Jeremiah 35:5-6, and Psalms 88:7-9 to justify that being quarantined is nothing new, however; further reading before and after the verse just shows how out of context they are.
Romans 8:28 was used to justify that God allowed these things to happened (to be quarantined and such) for our own good.
The rest I just ignored because they emphasize too much about parents teaching their kids the good works of God, and his commandments. Admonishing the young members to be active. Propagate, propagate, propagate. Worship service is very important blah blah blah.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hbuc0y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2020)",hbuc0y,2020-06-18,Details please if available,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hbuc0y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2020)",hbuc0y,2020-06-18,"They changed the lesson for the weekend in our locale. I don’t know why and I don’t know the contents yet. I’ll read it later but did it happen in your locale too? The first one was given last Thursday and yesterday, it was changed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hbuc0y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2020)",hbuc0y,2020-06-18,scanners seemed like they were on high alert for yesterday’s WS,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hbuc0y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2020)",hbuc0y,2020-06-18,Im waiting for it on my telegram acct.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hbuc0y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2020)",hbuc0y,2020-06-18,The use of Psalms 88:7-9 lol 200 IQ play,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hbuc0y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2020)",hbuc0y,2020-06-18,Perhaps to find the mystery minister/worker who shares it online. Hope we get more moles in INCult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hbuc0y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2020)",hbuc0y,2020-06-18,Changed it how? The lessons are all the same anyway.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hbuc0y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2020)",hbuc0y,2020-06-18,"Eh, I don't think changing lessons will help them with that. It's much too easy for the family member of any minister/worker/officer/family head to share those documents incognito.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hbuc0y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2020)",hbuc0y,2020-06-18,"The original lesson is that “everything we own is given by God”. That lesson was made by Bularan. The replacement lesson is about “staying at home” and was made by Weir. I believe, this is to give emphasis on the INC Family Hour.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hbuc0y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2020)",hbuc0y,2020-06-18,Do you mean “staying at home” like it was changed based on the uptick in covid cases?!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hbuc0y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2020)",hbuc0y,2020-06-18,Yes. Definitely. What was said there is that this quarantine period is a way of God to bring INC families closer to each other and to God.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hbuc0y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2020)",hbuc0y,2020-06-18,"Wow, I wonder if it is to “defend” that they didn’t expose anyone through home ws, collection of offerings, passing out bi-weekly lessons, etc. (all the ways we’ve seen in this subreddit) that they’re exposing others and putting the immunocompromised at increased risk!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hbuc0y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2020)",higipf,2020-06-29,Let me guess abuloy and obedience is the topic lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/higipf/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2020)",higipf,2020-06-29,"there are rumors that evm is dead, paralyzed or in a coma. whos got some news?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/higipf/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2020)",higipf,2020-06-29,Not far from happening because mid year thanks giving is fast approaching and he cannot imagine the expected low turn out of offer,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/higipf/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2020)",higipf,2020-06-29,"Same cheery picked “God’s commandments.” The verses they used for offering in new testament are out of context. The main offering the new testament preaches is one’s self as a living sacrifice. Not killing ourself off course, but by living a righteous way of life.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/higipf/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2020)",higipf,2020-06-29,The weekend streaming service nearly put me in a coma from boredom. Maybe that is where the rumor came from.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/higipf/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2020)",higipf,2020-06-29,"Most likely a rumor. If he's able to record his boring sermons every weekend for his PPV minions, he's pretty much alive. If anything he and his family are probably one of the most sheltered families in the Philippines.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/higipf/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2020)",higipf,2020-06-29,Nah he is in hiding they need him to control the brethren even though i think they would follow anyone as long as their circle of friends remain intact,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/higipf/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2020)",higipf,2020-06-29,When did you hear about this rumours?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/higipf/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2020)",higipf,2020-06-29,"Okay, this is weird but I also heard this news today. Info from evm inner circle. Still need to be confirmed though.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/higipf/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2020)",higipf,2020-06-29,😂😂😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/higipf/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"EVM.
""A family in America committed suicide. Why,? Because to too much depression. That's what they do, those outside of the church. That's the hopelessness of the world""
Not word for word but it is clear, the Church doesn't know a darn thing about mental health. They think it's a choice. They think it's the lack of God.
News flash, members of the church who aren't completely ignorant.
Mental Health Illness is just that. It's a health issue. Would EVM say, ""look at the people outside of the church who have high blood pressure. That's the way the people of the world are""
I'm so sick or this cult. I'm so sick that my overwhelming fear, anxiety and guilt that will be forced on me by my family of them disowning me.
No, I will not attend your CFO meetings regarding mental health. Since mental health is obviously a choice or lack of faith.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,I did a google search for a family in the US that committed suicide by drinking brake fluid and found NONE. Hey EVM whoever told you that fake news set you up so you can look like a fool...AGAIN. Don’t you check the internet. Are you even allowed to surf the net. Maybe your cohorts are protecting your fragile feelings from sites like this r\exiglesianicristo.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"So is this even a service? Sounds like therapy session for the great leader to rant about whatever comes to mind.
For someone claimed to be appointed by god, he sure sounds cranky. Isn't he happy that it's Christmas in the July for him?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"I haven’t seen any recent news (in the U.S.) of a family committing suicide. I’m sure the relatives of this family would be interested in hearing EVM’s reference to them.
My thoughts? I’m thinking it’s more bullshit dramatics to make the sermon “interesting.”",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hxczwc/they_killed_themselves_thats_what_people_of_this/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share link to a post I made about my thoughts on this Weekend WS,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"Thanksgiving day. The usual ""the world is coming to an end"" theme and saying thanks to God is not enough so bountiful offerings should be brought. Spanish Flu was cited because the true statistics of deaths were hidden from the public and manipulated (as if INC does not do this info manipulation and stuff). The man also said that there's no hope outside INC and members should control their thoughts to avoid depression. Obey and never complain is also implied.
This is from what I understood. I was planning to ignore the lesson but i tried my best to analyze. They really have inconsistencies with what they teach and what's shown on the webex. ✌️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"In our local, many are sleeping. they cannot comprehend what evm is preaching hahaha. Pathetic thanksgiving ws.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"I tried to sum up how many times the words ""tunay/true"" and ""banal/holy"" will be mentioned in the WS. I lost count. 😅",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"And by the way, the opening prayer portrays that evm is the reason why the members remain strong..what a F.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"https://youtu.be/jTlHP-oXI3w
For those of you fellow members stuck in this cult with me.
Here's a video between the Spanish Flu and the Covid-19.
Watch it and remember what our ""dear, blessed, dynamic, leadership brother EVM said""
Oh, I forgot to vent my other complaint. The minister who prayed, said his life was more Important than all of ours.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,How long was this special service?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,Was this worship service yesterday (Saturday)? I saw some OWEs in my neighborhood walking about Sunday morning and I was wondering why they weren't doing the service. Was it held at a specific time all around the world or something? Pay-Per-View right with EVM?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"Yah, I've asked my parents who are here visiting if they have heard of any such news of a family committing suicide. Since they still go to their overseers house to watch their service. They too have not even heard of such thing. Its just like the incult to make up such stories to fit their narrative. Just like that angel who visited them during a meeting and egm catching sand. All garbage.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg9pRp8HRhY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg9pRp8HRhY) not sure if this belongs here but livestream of an evm online,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,Perhaps they offed themselves because they were forced to listen to one of EVM's sermons. lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,My mental health greatly improved after I left the church. A single datum isn’t statistically significant but still lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,Kind of hard for evm and his goons to feel hopeless and to feel the hardship when they live off of the abundant offerings of their members. These fools have no knowledge to what mental health is. For them to use this as an example to what those outside of that cult turns to is sick. The only one with a mental illness I see is evm. Look at what he has done to his mom and siblings.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,INC news is fake just like its doctrine.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,I think he heard about the Jonestown suicide and twisted it. Most people that were laid off here is able to get unemployment pay and most people even received a check as part of a stimulus plan so I have no idea why EVM would make such a far fetched claim,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,Probably cranky because cash isn’t flowing much.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,That’s a funny way to describe service! I wanna use that for sure LOL!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"EVM likes to invent bullshit. Or if not him, it was made up by OWE's in the US and relayed to him in a distasteful attempt to stroke his cock.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,There is no hopelessness. We got stimulus checks.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"Me too, I haven't heard any news about an INC family suicide. I watched-read the news daily. It's a made up stories. Another lies as always.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,incult was built on inconsistencies,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,What are these inconsistencies?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"Include ""tuloy/continue"". That's what made me laugh secretly. Good thing that face masks are required to wear, hiding my mouth.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,Sounds like a good drinking game: take a shot every time he says “Tunay” haha,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,They make it a requirement to include him in prayers and to thank him too. They put him in the same level as Jesus. I think his part in the prayer might even be longer,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"\#EVMsLifeMattersMoreThanYours
11 minute closing prayer; hard to even call it that. numerous pauses lasting longer than 5 seconds. We can follow along and understand quite well; the audience are not toddlers. Quit wasting people's time. FFS
Don't recall hearing much about Jesus.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,">Watch it and remember what our ""dear, blessed, dynamic, leadership brother EVM said""
What did he say?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,Omg forever! I ended up finishing everything I had to do and then some for animal crossing during this,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,Roughly 2 hours total (officers’ prayer to officers’ prayer),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"Yep, video streaming with EVM for many locales. Each of the households were assigned for either Friday, Saturday, or Sunday based on preference and availability.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,“There’s this story that I heard...” is never a good way to support a statement. Makes you think how many times they used gossip as a way to support their arguments,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"Exactly, INC always make up stuff and I hope members will at least scrutinize and research this family suicide story from the horse's mouth.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,I’m in the US and I keep up with news. No news of family suicide. That would have been on my front page and all the news stations would have blasted it out already lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,You might be right...EVM's sermons are enough to make a rational person want to slit their wrists. Just imagine if you've already been diagnosed with mental health problems. It would be so much worst listening to his pathetic guilt trips and begging money.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"They also stated that the 1918 flu pandemic started in the US. The INC really needs to do some fact checking. Actually no one knows where it started, but the flu in the US was mostly spread by US soldiers and sailors coming back from the War in Europe. The war that started on 28 July 1914.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,Correction: The INC wants those stimulus checks because the Bible said so!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,INConsistent bullshit,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,One that i can remember only now (because i'm already removing what i've heard earlier on the webex to avoid guilt to penetrate me) is the way they write 'church' taken from their cherry picked verse and the Church of Christ.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,Lmao it must suck to be the reader.. he’s all: “READ.” *disrupt* “KEEP READING.”,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"During the 1990's EVM himself penned a circular addressed to all ministers and officers discouraging the inclusion of any INC leader's name in prayer (instead providing an emphasis on Jesus Christ), as well as keeping them short and formal. He even went so far as to call prolonged wailing as ""gross and undignified"".
*EVM, you blazing hypocrite*. If you can read this, I hope you remember that letter you wrote over twenty years ago.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"Christ got literally 10 seconds or so of mention before the minister switched back to praying to God. Also, I take it that some/many ministers, for some reason, feel a sense of power in wasting people’s time and treating brethren like preschoolers & kindergarteners.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"You're correct that there were several theories but no universal consensus on how or when the 1918 Influenza or the Spanish flu (H1N1 virus) started. According to historians, it originated in China and killed 50 million. Some say patients had the virus at an US Army camp in Aix-les-Baines in France during WWI. Other samples proved that the Spanish flu pandemic didn't actually began in 1918 but started in early 1917 from infected soldiers which might have been the earliest signs of the pandemic.
I guess it's too much to ask or hope that INC would fact check instead of spitting lies.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"Right 😂 You can't spell ""inconsistent"" without ""INC""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"Self deprogramming, eh? Impressive. Thanks for answering, and sorry that you gotta restore those deleted memories from your brain's recycle bin",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,">that letter you wrote over twenty years ago.
Is the letter still available for us today to see?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"Just thought I'd share: My Spanish teacher made a joke saying that they called it the ""Spanish flu"" not because it originated from Spain, but because the French were reeeeal salty about the Spanish.
As for EVM... He never ceases to make the little historian in me sick.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,He’s the Trump of INC,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,I need to deprogram cuz i'm not yet used to just ignore the guilt tripping and gaslighting aspects of the sermons. It's not easy to deprogram when in home ws and i'm the assigned to pray for the 1st part or read the sermon. Still on the process of mentally separating myself from the church.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"I think it's available here, or in INC From The Edge's website.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,Stay strong! I hope you can completely separate yourself from this cult sooner!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2020)",hwvhzc,2020-07-23,"Thanks. :) Also hoping for that to happen, now that I'm truly enlightened.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hwvhzc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2020)",hz8azx,2020-07-27,"A vent during service.
So, I like the way how this religion and the other religions focuses on the Weaknesses of is being Human. That we can't do anything without God's help, and that way is through the Church.
Also, when is Christ Gonna come. Another reminder. ""Christ is coming soon! Are you keeping the faith?""
We've been told this for what? 106 years.
A promise of a heavenly reward. Remember all this is based off the Bible. The Bible that replaced the word, ""Pedophile"" with the word, ""Homosexual"" in 1946.
Okay. So now we're talking about the EVM.
Or the Evangelical Mission. He's asking.
""Did you invite? Did you even attend?""
No, ""brother"" I didn't attend, But I did invite. I share the Incmedia website on my massive Twitter account with my friends in the DMs.
They all think the same thing.
""Bruh, you're in a cult.""
Yes, thank you for this site. Thank you for your exclusive doctrine. The church will NOT win. Not against knowledge and education.
Here we go again. Talking about the Spanish Flu. Talking about, ""all these other Christians are running by you, are you running your race!?""
Clearly to make me feel bad. Comparing myself against others. Now we're talking about, ""remember when out father was back in the ""HomeLand"" ""
Sorry, I'm not Filipino. I'm American.
""Remember before when we were outside of the church!? ""
Actually bruh, I don't. I was born in the Church.. so was my family. I don't know anything but this.
It's easy for you right brother? Being a minister, taking our money. The view point of how the current working economy works is so dated. Do you not understand how the world works?
Like JFC bro, listen to yourself. Brethren like me, listen. Imagine as if you weren't a member, or imagine a different church saying and doing these things. What would you think?
God gave you a brain, use it. Use facts. Facts!
Remember how we're not ""Blind Followers""
He said, ""Barometer to measure the wind""
Barometers don't work that way. They measure atmospheric pressure. Not wind speed or measure of faith.
""EVM says don't focus on troubles, don't focus on suffering, focus on God's promise! ""
Seriously bro? Half of the lesson was all about ""our life is hard, we cry, we suffer""
You see this garbage?
Oh, "" I get knocked down, and I get up again!""
My favorite verse from Chumbawamba.
"" I get knocked down, but I get up again, you're never gonna keep me down"" now I'm singing in my head.
Oh thank God, we're almost done with this lesson. Thank You God!
Huh, I guess I am thankful for the service.
Of course I'm thankful after church.. imagine sitting down for over an hour listening to a blowhard, then hear, ""that is the end of our service""
It's 832pm!!!
Why are you still talking!? You said last verses the previous verse. Why you lie bruh? Lying is a sin bruh... Oooo, I'm telling God.
God! He lied! He lied God.
Bruh, he still going!? Screw this I'm logging off. Bye brother. Thanks for wasting my time. I'll make sure to send more people of the world to the website so they can all see our cult",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hz8azx/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2020)",hz8azx,2020-07-27,"> "" I get knocked down, but I get up again, you're never gonna keep me down"" now I'm singing in my head.
Now I'm singing it in my head.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hz8azx/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2020)",hz8azx,2020-07-27,">The bible that replaced the word, “Pedophile” with the word, “Homosexual” in 1946.
Do you have more information about this? Genuinely curious",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hz8azx/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2020)",hz8azx,2020-07-27,"""pissing the night away..."" that's more suitable while listening to evm's repetitive bullshit",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hz8azx/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2020)",hz8azx,2020-07-27,Google it bruh,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/hz8azx/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2020)",i7le1w,2020-08-10,"I like the way they say,
""No one else, no other religion is doing this but us in this pandemic!""
I live next to Jehovah's Witnesses. They hold their services online too. They even sing and dress formally.
Yeah. If you believe all the BS that this place says, you're a moron. If you have a college education with multiple degrees, well you're an educated idiot with college debt.
God is the best doctor! He can heal anything.
Brethren are dying from this virus.
God is the source of all wealth. Majority of members are broke AF.
Soooo.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i7le1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2020)",i7le1w,2020-08-10,Can someone tell me what the focus was in today's service?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i7le1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2020)",i7le1w,2020-08-10,"Basically, the lesson could be summarized as “Thou Shalt Not Conform to the Ways of the World,” and of course, the sermon wouldn’t be complete without the minister/worker plugging CFO activities, district offerings, Bible Studies/EVMs...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i7le1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2020)",i7le1w,2020-08-10,"*""No one else, no other religion is doing this but us in this pandemic!""*
Lmao some Catholic dioceses had been doing in person masses long before the Thanksgiving (not that it's even appropriate to have them in the first place).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i7le1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2020)",i7le1w,2020-08-10,god only exists in the minds of the members or those morons.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i7le1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2020)",i7le1w,2020-08-10,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i7le1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2020)",i7le1w,2020-08-10,Playback confirmed for weekend service.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i7le1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2020)",i7le1w,2020-08-10,"Thank you for sharing but basically, nothing new
Same bullshyt.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i7le1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2020)",i7le1w,2020-08-10,I'm sorry for you guys. I would rather get root canal that have to listen to that boring sanctimonious a$$.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i7le1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,"Dedication service for a locale in Davao. I was sat there for about an hour, solved three crossword puzzles and pulled out one white hair.
It still annoys me that all they do in church services is romanticise these bad times that we are in and not even giving a single care to humanity.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,Doing a Tuloy count!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,"I'm curious if the lesson during webex is different from hws when we only have hard copies of the lesson.
The lesson was teaching that god's (evm) knowledge is better that human-acquired knowledge. From what i understood frm the lesson, they say that it's good to study and learn at school, but it's worthless without god's own knowledge.
And i felt that there's a subliminal message that encourages students to study in NEU despite the cost of tuition fees (striving to learn even though it is expensive). And also hints of obeying the usual activities like evangelical missions and giving offerings.
I saw that this lesson was made by glicerio santos jr. Apologies if there are hints of bitterness and sarcasm.
P.s. gotta admit, there is one thing i picked up. They say that people need to stay away from evil (what i consider evil is INC itself, so i gotta stay away from them. That's what i wanna think).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,"Live PPV event here in UK
Luckily I am exempt as I don't understand Tagalog and there are no subtitles
Wetherspoon breakfast here i come !!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,"For this and the last WS, minister said EVM prays for our needs. I blurted to the Family “no he does not”. Then one of my OWE family said “yes he does”. I said “he only does the short one after doxology. EVM seems like he is praying towards the end of his sermon but then would say that whatever he just said is what we (the minister who is assigned to pray which is most likely his reader) will ask for in our prayer” My OWE family realized that my observation is correct and acknowledged their mistake.
Now in the opening prayer for this PPV, the minister said something like even though it is not EVM praying he is praying for the members. Now what kind of crap is that.
Lastly, I observed that EVM has his own sign language symbol versus spelling out Eduardo V Manalo as it is being mentioned by the one praying. The right hand taps the left shoulder spelling out just EVM",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,Currently sitting through Ed boy’s sermon. Im not fully attentive so idk what he’s currently rabbling about. But what was all that mess about Davao at the start??,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,"Oh screw this.
As they announced before the sermon, Dalao is a city in the Philippines, where the INC sought to establish their locale way back in 1949. As of somewhere around 2019, the locale now has a fully built chapel. I may have missed some details, we could assume this to be a case of negligence for a locale to be incomplete for almost 70 years, but correct me if I’m wrong.
One thing that stood out in the sermon was the topic of how us ever-so-loyal members of the Church should be happy in these “times of trials”, as was instructed by I believe was Apostle Peter in the verse I Peter 4:12. EVM also takes a doctrine that compares the members enduring these trials to “one-third of humanity being put in the fire to turn into silver”. Yeah, I guess quarantine is supposed to encourage us to improve as people, amirite?
I also want to point out that EVM has also talked about how we INC members don’t take drugs, alcohol, or gambling like the “other people of this world do”. So I guess he’s generalizing that to every single non-INC? Okay then.
There, I said as much as I could find to be accurate to the WebEx. Now, I do NOT remember EVM comparing (or belittling) human knowledge to Godly knowledge, so if he actually did that, then please elaborate and fill in those blanks for me. I know he DEFINITELY did not talk about a new mission in Africa. The Africa campaign has gone down a bit in INC media, and I don’t remember seeing it on our Evangelical Mission video presentations anymore. Again, correct me if I’m wrong.
For such a community that has helped young members like me open my eyes to the truth—if you aren’t gonna bother paying attention to the one guy that may be behind it all, then maybe slathering your snark around so proudly just isn’t a good idea. Some of the comments here are slightly misleading at best and a downright joke at worst.
TIL EVM preaches that not being happy during dark times is a violation of the doctrine. He also generalizes non-INC members as easily susceptible to vices, which is a gross oversimplification of people who aren’t in the INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,"I think a lot of it is because college is when they start to lose the young people. The young students get away from family influence, they are exposed to more knowledge and diversity, and they tend to start rethinking priorities. That is probably the reason for the focus on college knowledge.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,What kind of live event? EVM preaching? What time was held in the UK? Anyone else confirm if it was a simultaneous broadcast in your part of the world besides UK?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,I thought EVM never does live. His mind numbingly boring WebEx were always pre-recorded.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,I know right? I started doing FB,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,"*Dalao is a city in the Philippines, where the INC sought to establish their locale way back in 1949. As of somewhere around 2019, the locale now has a fully built chapel*
The locale of *Davao City* was established in 1947, and it had gone through three separate renovations throughout the years before the building we all saw in that Webex.
*Now, I do NOT remember EVM comparing (or belittling) human knowledge to Godly knowledge, so if he actually did that, then please elaborate and fill in those blanks for me.*
Oh, he definitely did. Because according to him, people should definitely entrust themselves to God (or the INC definition of the Christian God, at least), and those who rely on themselves are destined to fall and fail.
*if you aren’t gonna bother paying attention to the one guy that may be behind it all, then maybe slathering your snark around so proudly just isn’t a good idea*
I get your point, man, but no offense. You're the one being snarky here.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,Yup EVM preaching about something about there missionary position somewhere in Africa,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,"Not sure what time as we haven't had God's instructions !!
i.e a Word document, who knew he had access to a computer, wonder if he gets preferential rates !!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,"We are getting it this weekend. So my guess is pre-recorded. I couldn't help but laugh Wednesday as they read out all the rules for connecting.
I am thinking about setting up a drinking game. With every tuloy, we have to do a shot. I mean they didn't forbid it in the laundry list of rules, so it must be ok.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,"1. You are correct on that one.
2. This is also true, but this is more like something that we’ve just already known in the past. I referred more to if he actually preached that again this weekend, which from what I saw he didn’t (again, not saying that he HASN’T already preached this in the past). I apologize for any confusion.
3. I’ll admit, I got carried away haha! But like you said, my point still stands. There’s a difference between snark that delivers an actual point, and snark that isn’t clever at all and just shows a lack of actual knowledge in the very thing we’re trying to snark at, which I believed I was seeing in this comment thread. I’ll let others do what they want, but as ex-inc, we’re supposed to be better than not paying attention to very group that we want to analyze and expose to the world.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,">I am thinking about setting up a drinking game. With every tuloy, we have to do a shot. I mean they didn't forbid it in the laundry list of rules, so it must be ok.
Sounds like fun 😂",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,Pretty sure I heard a Live Event,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,"I am a proponent of fact checking about the INC itself, as misleading information is bound to be used by the cult against our narrative. Additionally, there is nothing wrong to give the INC credit where it's due. However, if you're going to post about it please do make sure that your own statements themselves are accurate. No use being snarky if you're the one being corrected.
And yes, EVM *did* make a reference to Godly knowledge in the recent Webex.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2020)",i9fo6w,2020-08-13,"> However, if you're going to post about it please do make sure that your own statements themselves are accurate. No use being snarky if you're the one being corrected.
There’s some parts that I don’t quite follow. I don’t want to mean any offense, but I feel that you’re singling me out as the “one being corrected here”. I’ve watched the WebEx myself, so I wish to ask if any or all of my statements were inaccurate.
There are a couple comments in this thread where they simply decide not to pay attention to the WebEx. One guy even said that EVM just preached about the mission in Africa as an actual topic, over the other topics that I mentioned were preached. It’s more about a lack of attention that I’m worried about.
> And yes, EVM did make a reference to Godly knowledge in the recent Webex.
Well, I’ll just have to take your word for it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/i9fo6w/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,"Same thing.
Starts out with “problems in this world, world’s fucked, hardships” intro like every worship service.
Then they tell us to stay in the church because god will help you during this pandemic. They’ll even provide an example of one character from the bible on how he prayed to god and helped him.
Finally, end it with this same phrase “but brother life is hard I’m going through tough times all the difficulties” and then read a bible verse and make it sound very sob like
boom prayer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,"So here it goes.
Hymn lineup specifically centered on hymns with WS-centered lyrics, especially hymn 279 (which I'll admit I like due to the melody), which was a hint about the sermon.
Anyway, sermon starts off with the ""people are becoming faithless"" tied with the ""life's hard"" opening. Then it goes on to how WS can solve problems; it then segues into how members shouldn't forsake WS because members won't get blessings and salvation. EVM is referred to in how he's 'beseeching' church members to devote themselves to the church. Sermon continues by citing John 4:23 and says how God doesn't value worship from those outside the INC; this theme is repeated throughout the sermon. Psalm 4:1-2 is cited for how true worshippers are never absent from WS, while Romans 12:1 is referred to for the ""living holy sacrifices"" point. At this point, they make a point of how it's not enough to just show up for WS; meanwhile 1 Thessalonians 2:13 is cited. Then it goes into a segment where the minister tells the congregation to be more active in church activities and mentions an upcoming WebEx led by ""EVM's primary helpers in the church administration"". Anyway they give reasoning for joining in: to ""please God"" (again with living sacrifices) and that it's ""God's will"". Hebrews 9:14 and Acts 20:28 (shocker) are cited as why the INC is the only church that God accepts worship and service from. More imploring about how members should invite people to hear the word and send INC links. Hebrews 10:25 is cited and then the minister talks about how this isn't surprising because ""they don't have the right to worship God anyway"". More on EVM as he is quoted in how members should guard their faith and how he admonishes members to dedicate themselves to the church. Some verse in Hebrews is used to say how those outside of the church should expect ""fearful judgment"" and how willful neglect of WS will result in being burned in hell. ""INC is the true church and you all have the right to serve and worship God"" is repeated again. 2 Chronicles 6:8 is cited to show Israel is no longer God's chosen nation, and for more proof on how forsaking WS will result in bad things. Then the minister gets ""emotional"" and goes back to our problems and then goes on a string of pleadings that each start off with ""may you"". Psalms 6:2-4 and 145:18-19 are read, both readings were done with the voice that tries to sound emotional. After that, another round of pleadings and pledges in a ""emotional"" voice by the minister, such as ""let us not forsake the WS"" and ""let us become more zealous in church activities"" (the latter is quoted word-for-word). The INC anthem 'I Am a Member of the Church of Christ' plays. The prayer afterward is always the same with the questionable emotion. No mention of the pandemic anywhere throughout the prayer. Pleadings for EVM and his helpers to be blessed to they may ""lead"" the members. At least a request for blessed livelihoods is given near the end.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,"Yay, another weekend off for me as I am having a little 4 day break with my wife and sis-in-law.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,"Thank you for sharing but boy oh boy, I don't know how you guys can stomach with this same BS. It's like listening to a dripping tap water.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,💯%,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,Boom prayer 😂😂😂😂😂😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,"ngl, but the current hymn line-ups are done in poor taste. And as usual, we see a lot of cock-stroking for EVM's ego in the lesson, though not always explicitly stated.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,Great work!!! Thank you,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,"Thanks for this. Good thing i don't have to listen to that bs anymore, but reading the summary is 🤮 (meant for the bs teachings 🤮). ✌️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,"Oooh, i was absent from this one, going to burn in hell !!!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,"For me, its a guy thing. Eyes are looking straight ahead, as if I am listening. Brain is thinking football, or food, or something else interesting. I couldn't tell you a word the minister said Wednesday night. Couldn't even tell you what the lesson was about. But during the service, I did remember that I have to change the oil in my wife's car soon.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,Hymn 279 is not unusual during the last weekend worship service of a month. Maybe hymn 54 was played as well.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,"You're right, it is a guy thing 😃👍 cause you sound like my husband. A year before we left INC, attending worship services were so tiresome for all of us. I used to complained a lot and he used to tell to think like a guy. He said that what got him through was looking straight ahead (like you) and thought of all the patients he saw that day, what he wants to do later, or if there are any errands for him to do, and if there is some house hold stuff for him to fix, etc.
It's amazing because our son did that also. My daughter and I couldn't. We used to walked out and stayed in the car and waited for them.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,"> A year before we left INC, attending worship services were so tiresome for all of us.
This is how my loved ones and I feel. Its all so tiresome. Whenever you ask ANYONE how the worship service is, they always say 'oh.. it was good'. No enthusiasm. NOBODY says wow that was inspiring.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,"The last time they said something that I actually listened to was when they announced the expulsion of EVM's mom and brother. To be honest, I had no idea who they were, but I heard the name Manalo, and figured something was up that might actually be interesting. I went home and googled it all. Found out the whole story, the online support of mom and brother, the anger against the administration for building the arena and other things, the spies inside the administration etc... I found the old network 54 message board, and eventually followed the migration here. So I guess I owe EVM some thanks for helping me find this place.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,"Preachers in youtube inspires me more than the same BS I hear in the worship service. It's not even 'worship' anymore it's more like ""give more offering service""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,"When I was growing up, I attended Christian Evangelical churches. While I lost interest in their beliefs, I do remember people getting excited during the service. Shouting hallelujah or praise god or preach it brother. The ones that were devoted showed some enthusiasm. The minister of the church I attended when I was 5-6 years old would get excited and start walking up and down the aisles, bible in hand, shouting at the top of his lungs. If nothing else, it kept people from going to sleep.
I think one of the reasons the church shows almost zero growth in the US is that during the service, there is almost no excitement. No one smiles, or seems happy to be there, even the OWE's. You find more cheer in a graveyard than in an INC service. Which surprises me as Filipinos tend to be exuberant and fun loving people. At least in my experience.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2020)",ii0tdd,2020-08-27,"I've observed this, too. Filipinos are a happy bunch, but the primary goal of the cult's services is to remind them that life is terrible and the end is near to re-instill fear and submission into the members. Do this at least twice a week, and that's how they keep the members brainwashed with all the stupid policies and fear-mongering.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ii0tdd/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,"The password for tonight's Worshit service
romans1616",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,"If anyone wants a copy of lesson for today, just dm me. Ps. It’s in tagalog.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,Haha I think same Pw from 2 weeks ago!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,"Ah I see. so even the passwords are handed down from the adminionstration. lol
So even these clowns running the stream don't have enough autonomy to figure it out on their own. That's hilarious.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,may i have the copy of the lesson? i just want to see if they misinterpreted the verses,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,Can you give a summary in English for all of us here?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,Sent. Oh it is in tagalog tho.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,"Title: the complete and thorough transformation of life (or change of lifestyle)
Change your lifestyle, follow jesus, receive blessings, be saved",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,Doesn't sound too bad. Anything interesting (read: misleading) from lesson?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,"I'm behind recording the listings, I guess I'll list this one as an outlier it seems.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,"Well, not much other than constant mention of “as an INC” and using a spanish bible verse that contains the church name (Ephesians 3:21 -Traduccion en Lenguaje Actual). You know, other than the Acts 20:28 and Romans 16:16.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,I have no idea what that means,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,I see- Thank you so much!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,Resorting to Spanish bibles now too huh. “Erroneous translations” much. They’re getting creative I’ll give them that.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,Outlier means it had nothing to do with the seven deadly themes.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,"Well, not a surprise since they found out about Lamsa. I think they did this too like last july.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,"Oh I see, it concluded by saying don’t leave the church pala. My bad.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,"What do you mean, they found out about Lamsa?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,"Oh I see. Ok, I’ll change it then. Thanks!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,The Acts 20:28 Lamsa translation. I mean I rarely heard of that pre-EVM era and now it is much more used than the Romans 16:16.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2020)",ike0nz,2020-08-31,Ahh ok! I misunderstood what you were saying.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ike0nz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,"In a addition to what has been noted, more lies and falsehoods from the great leader.
Apparently the mid-year take on offerings was said to be ""strong"". Really? Are you sure about that? so why do we keep getting reminder for umpteen different solicitations for money up the ass every 3 - 4 days?
That closing prayer was classic INCult gold. The minion asked for the great leader's protection from threats against him, his loved ones, their helpers.. etc. etc.
Who threatened you Eddy? Tell us where Eddy. Did they threaten your wallet? Did they threaten to reveal the scams? (Although at this point, it's been out there already).
BTW: the downvotes have been noted. This does nothing for you but only confirms what we here in the sub already know. Truth hurts eh?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,"Okay the thing is... they cited a supposedly credible source. It stated that 12 Greek scholars and some other dude worked on the chapter of Mathew. They apparently ‘confirmed’ that the time “ends of the earth” is definitely World War I. Who were these greek scholars? What is the date when they made such claim and study?
Later they backed it up using a lawyer’s diary from Britain to prove that World War I happened on July 27, 1914. I think the name of the lawyer was Allardice Ridelle or something, forgot. But seriously? What a pathetic attempt to prove their narrative. I was laughing inside because thousands and possibly millions of historians have said that World War I happened on July 28, 1914. A simple google search will suffice.
INC you never fail to amuse me with your stupidness. EVM and all evangelical workers, would you dare sitting in front of a panel to prove your narrative? I bet a high school student would do a better job at it. You don’t know a single thing about research. The way you delivered it was not engaging but quite repetitive. Stop interrupting the reader. Stop making stupid jokes that are not even funny - they’re cringe and just makes the service longer.
Also, the audacity to say that INC’s problems aren’t greater as the ones outside the church because we have God - BS! Being INC is a problem in itself.
TLDR: The service sucked and was too long for such an empty and meaningless message.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,[ Removed by reddit in response to a copyright notice. ],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,PPV ?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,"Reminder, I have some tagalog lessons. Dm me if you want some.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,"It was hot where I was and one of my family members texted me saying that she wasn't allowed to wear sleeveless tops because it's a worship service.
She's in her own home. She's not allowed to be comfortable in her own home? She doesn't have AC so now she's in trouble for not ""following instructions""
Imagine that, a Church that will control women and what they can and cannot wear. What's the verse they like to use?
""Women must keep silent?""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,"They cited “Lord Riddell's War Diary, 1914–1918” LOL
They said, “on page one, he wrote ‘as far as I’m concerned, the war started on Monday’ and what was Monday brethren? July 27, 1914” Hahaha how was this a credible source for the exact date of WWI? it’s literally some guy’s diary",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,"EVM used the Last Days New Testament (1999) by Ray W. Johnson, who is/was an Evangelical Christian based on his biography. Unsurprisingly, context is useless for the INC as the next paragraph directly after ironically **refutes** their July 27 1914 = beginning of WW1 claim. On page 54 of the Book of Matthew in the Last Days New Testament (1999) by Ray W. Johnson it states (bold emphasis mine):
>The first time in world history occurred during the years of World War I (1914-1918) and immediately following.
>
>World War I broke out when the heir apparent to the Austrian throne was assassinated by a Serbian zealot. Hostilities between the two countries over this incident resulted in **Austria** **declaring war on Serbia one month later**. This was *nation against nation.*
Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated on **June 28 1914** which would make **July 28 1914** exactly **one month later**.
To add further fuel to the fire, just like his grandfather and father before him, **EVM admits that the** **INC only existed/began on** **July 27 1914** and not prior (November 1913), u/Rauffenburg more debunking material. Word-for-word EVM said:
""Ang panahon mga wakas ng lupa: Hulyo 27 1914, yan ang pagsisimula ng Iglesia Ni Cristo dito sa Pilipinas sa pamamagitan ng pagkasankapan ng ating Panginoong Diyos kay kapatid ni Felix Manalo na kanyang Sugo sa mga Huling Araw na ito.""
Translation:
""The time ends of the earth: July 27 1914, that is the start/beginning of the Church of Christ here in the Philippines through the guidance/mediation (?) of our Lord God in brother Felix Manalo, his Last Messenger in these last days.""
Ray W. Johnson Biography: [https://www.lastdaysbible.org/Introduction.html](https://www.lastdaysbible.org/Introduction.html)
Last Days New Testament (1999) Book of Matthew: [https://www.lastdaysbible.org/Matthew.html](https://www.lastdaysbible.org/Matthew.html)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,"Hate to say it, but Ridelle's diary is actually considered reputable. Of course, if you read it, he is talking about war for the UK being unavoidable after that point.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,This makes me want to vomit. Glad I don't have to listen to this shit any more. Freedom is beautiful beyond words.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,"Fcking hell they put out this ""why god placed an administration"" topic at least once every few months. I'm suprised no one's sick of this sht yet!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,">WHICH IS WHY HE PLACEDAN ADMINISTRATIONIN THE CHURCH
They completely replaced Jesus",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,Yep.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed.
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,Any chance we have an audio?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,Yeah. Same feeling here. Its even grueling in my case since i read it to my family. I skip everytime evms' name is mentioned.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,What's the summary?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,"It was just announced. I'll see tommorow but if its EVM, for sure same shit, different day.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,"its gonna be like dont leave church, even tho life is hard",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2020)",im9o1a,2020-09-03,🤮 still brainwashing people.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/im9o1a/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2020)",it2007,2020-09-14,"HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED
BY BROTHER ANTONIO T. de GUZMAN JR.
WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY: SEPTEMBER 16/17, 2020
THE ONE WHOM GOD WILL SURELY HAVE MERCY ON, PROTECT, AND SAVE IN TIMES OF TROUBLE
We thank God for placing an Administration in the Church of Christ foreach of us tobe edified in faith and to reach perfection. Through the words of God written in the Bible, Brother Eduardo Manalo, our Executive Minister, has instructed us not to give up but, instead, to continue trusting in God. He wants us to understand that it is God Who can truly help us because nothing is impossible with Him.
For us to surmount all the difficulties that we face today, the Executive Minister exhorts us to include in our prayers to God what is written in Isaiah 33:2(Good News Bible): “LORD, have mercy on us. We have put our hope in You. Protect us day by day and save us in times of trouble.”
Those who put their hope in God who are certain of receiving His mercy are God’s people, according to First Peter 2:9-10 (Amplified Version). God chose them or gave them the divine election when they were redeemed. Hence, no one can just claim to be a chosen of God because one needs to be counted among those redeemed.
According to Apostle Paul in Romans5:8-9 (AMP), Christ’s blood was used to redeem the chosen ones of God to be His people. That clearly shows God’s love and mercy for them. They are now justified, acquitted, made righteous, and brought into right relationship with God. Hence, they are certain of salvation.
It is proven in Acts 20:28 (LamsaTranslation) that the Church redeemed by Christ’s blood is the Church Of Christ. Therefore, we are sure that we are the ones whom God will have mercy on, protect, and save in times of trouble. Most of all, we will certainly be saved from the greatest destruction—Judgment Day. We are very blessed. Hence, let us always cherish our divine election.
However, it is not enough that we are just members of the Church Of Christ or counted in God’s nation for Him to protect us day by day.
According to Psalm37:23-24 (Good News Bible), we should also do the things that please Him day by day. We will be able to do that if we do what King Hezekiahdid. According to Second Chronicles 31:20-21 (EasyEnglish Bible), Hezekiah did what was good and right—God’s law and rules. He was determined to obey. And, in doing so,he did not lose out because the Bible says, “So very good things happened to him.” God saved him from his enemies and helped him defeat them. God healed him from a deadly disease and added 15 years to his life.
Thus, what many Church members are doing is right. They are determined to obey. They do not allow themselves to be hindered from obeying God. Despite the pandemic, they continue to conduct worship services to God, give offerings, uphold the love of the brotherhood, share the faith, and submit to the Church Administration. They also take advantage of the opportunity to strengthen the relationship of every member of the household and their relationship with God through fervent prayers. Obedience is the most effective“ personal protective equipment” because the obedient is the one whom God will protect day by day.
For us to be sure that God will save us in times of trouble, we must be consistently righteous. As stated in Psalm37:39 (AMP), “The salvation of the [consistently]righteous is of the Lord.” Being consistent means not being seasonal or changing depending on the circumstance.
For us to be consistently righteous no matter what our circumstance in life is, let us imitate our Lord Jesus Christ. As stated in First Peter 2:21-23 (The Living Bible), “...Christ, who suffered for you, is your example. Follow in His steps. He never sinned... when He suffered.” Despite the sufferings, persecutions, temptations, and afflictions, Christ did not think, say, or do anything evil. Instead, He stood His ground obeying the will of God. He was able to do that because “He left his case in the hand of God.
We also have sufferings. Because of the strict community quarantine or lockdown, others had a difficult time getting basic necessities, like food. Others were bored, sad, panicky, afraid, and perhaps even angry. Because of stress or frustration, they lashed out or took it out on those around them, perhaps even on their loved-ones. Others resorted to doing things that are illegal and against the law of God. What’s worse is, there might be some brethren who are on the verge of giving up their divine election. Those things should not happen to us.
It is hard to be infected with the coronavirus. But it is far worse to be infected with doubt and disobedience. How can such brethren be consistently righteous? How, then, can they truly hope that God will save them in times of trouble? Hence, let us be consistently righteous no matter what the circumstance of our life is.
If the sufferings seems too hard to bear, let us leave our case with God by praying to Him fervently. In FirstPeter5:7 and 10 (EE), the apostles taught that, “Tell God about all the things that make you sad or afraid or angry. Give your thoughts about those things to Him and let them remain with Him.”
It is only right that through prayers, we tell God our troubles because “You will have trouble and pain for a short time. But after that, God, who is so completely kind, will make everything right.”
We can truly hope that God will bestow His mercy by making everything right for us. That’s because we matter to Him, for we are the ones whom He caused to be united to Christ when He called us to be parts of the body of Christ or members of the Church Of Christ.
But God does not want us just to be members of the Church Of Christ. He wants as well that we “will live with Him in the beautiful place where He lives”—in the Holy City, where there are no more pain, suffering, and death. There, everything will be right for us. Despite many sufferings, we are certain to reach that place because “He will make [us]strong, so that nothing can ever stop [us]believing Him.”
We will surely surmount whatever sufferings we may have, even those brought about by the Covid-19 pandemic. Because we are members of the Church Of Christ, our Lord God reserves for us His mercy. When we are determined to obey Him and are consistently righteous, He will protect us day by day and save us in times of trouble. Above all, He will grant us entrance into the Holy City.
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED
BY BROTHER ANTONIO T. de GUZMAN JR.
WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY: SEPTEMBER 16/17, 2020",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/it2007/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2020)",it2007,2020-09-14,"ministers quote: some people are affected by diseases, but more worse are people who are disobedient. 😂😂😂😂 Did he make that up at that moment or what",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/it2007/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2020)",it2007,2020-09-14,"The minister mentioned that the best PPE we can have is ""obedience to God"" but they don't care to explain why there are ministers and officers who died from COVID-19. Does this mean they aren't obedient enough? And why am I not dying yet XD.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/it2007/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2020)",it2007,2020-09-14,I stopped reading after “we thank god for placing....” 😂😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/it2007/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2020)",it2007,2020-09-14,">It is hard to be infected with the coronavirus. But it is far worse to be infected with doubt and disobedience.
This sentence makes me feel sick. Health of members is worth nothing next to their complete blind obedience.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/it2007/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2020)",it2007,2020-09-14,"I keep on seeing, ""the Executive Minister"", ""our Executive Minister"", ""Executive Minister""
There really is so much admiration for the Executive Minister rather than admiration for Jesus Christ :(",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/it2007/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2020)",it2007,2020-09-14,What's even crazier is that blind members swallow this garbage willingly. This cult just keeps making me feel more sick every damned WS.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/it2007/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2020)",it2007,2020-09-14,Another administration-centered lesson? Gonna nap again lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/it2007/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2020)",it2007,2020-09-14,"At least they didn't mention ""dynamic leadership"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/it2007/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2020)",it2007,2020-09-14,Can’t believe I scrolled straight down after doing the same thing 😂😂😂 I feel guilty,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/it2007/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2020)",it2007,2020-09-14,Im preparing not to puke when i read this tomorrow for my family,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/it2007/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2020)",it2007,2020-09-14,Are all ministers instructed to say the same exact things? I heard this verbatim.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/it2007/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2020)",iuzo7u,2020-09-17,"Lemme guess....
- they start off with a negative opening line then do a lousy segue to relate it to INC membership. I assume in BEM days, they must have a Public Speaking subject of some sort or Effective Communication Skills. They must also teach -- ""How to Keep Your Audience Interested""...Seems like ministers follow one template, one that is very old school.
- a countdown reminder of Thanksgiving. Because, why not? It's a must.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/iuzo7u/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2020)",iuzo7u,2020-09-17,"Household Worship ServiceSaturday/Sunday: September 19/20, 2020
WE NEED TO DO OUR PART FOR OUR FAITH TO BE STRENGTHENED
In times of trouble and suffering, one of the things that commonly arise in people’s heartsis doubt. As God’s chosen ones, we must not allow that to overcome usbecause, as the Bible states, doubters will notreceive anything fromthe Lord. Thus, we shouldhave faith and make it flourish.
According to Apostle Paul, in Romans 10:17 and 15 (Last Days Bible), people will only come to have faith “by sincerely listening to what God wants to tell you.”However, people should not listen to just anyone who claims tospeak about the Lord, but only to those who are sent by God. God’s messengersare the ones who can teach the true knowledge of God, according to Malachi 2:7 (Good News Bible). That iswhy God commandspeople to “Go to themto learn My will.” When one listens to anyone who is not a messenger of God, he will not learn the will or the words of God; hence, that person will not havethe true faith.
We, members of the Church Of Christ,are sure that we have received the true faith because we are the result of the preaching of Brother Felix Manalo, God’s Messenger in these last days. Although God laid him to rest, we remain in the true faith because we continue to receive God’s will through the Church Administration who was entrusted “to make God’s message fully known,” according to Colossians 1:25 (Holman Christian Standard Bible).
The Church Administration labors and strives to fulfill the divine authority and duty to preach God’s words. They are doing that so the Christians will reach spiritual maturity, as what Apostle Paul declared in Colossians 1:28-29 (Amplified Bible). Our Executive Minister, Brother Eduardo V. Manalo, tirelessly teaches us so we will be strong in the faith.
Because of that, we should then do our part: Let us hold on to what our Executive Minister teaches to us, as what Apostle Paul said in Second Thessalonians 2:13-15 (New International Reader’s Version): “Brothers and sisters, stand firm. Hold on to what we taught you. We passed our teachings on to you by what we preached and wrote.”
We usually receive God’s words that the Church Administration teaches during ourworship service. That is why we should be devoted to attending our worship services for us to be strong in the faith.
Moreover, in Colossians 2:8 (New Life Version), Apostle Paul instructed, “Be careful that no one changes your mind and faith by much learning and big sounding ideas.” In these times when people are subjected to information overload and there is a proliferationof fake news, especially in social media, we should be careful.When it comes to the true religion, one should not believe in any idea or information that goes againstGod’s words preached by the Messenger and continues to be taught by the Church Administration.
Also, in Second Thessalonians 2:15 (LDB), the Bible teaches us to, “Continue to stand firm in your determination to live only to please God.” What pleases God is definitely not disobedience, but obedience. Hence, an obedient Church member is the one who will be strong and become even stronger in the faith.
However, we should not be content that we are the only ones who are strong in the faith. According to Romans 15:1-2 (Easy-to-Read Version): “We are strong with faith. So we should help the people who are weak.” Hence, “We should not try to please ourselves ... We should do this to help them. We should try to help them be stronger in faith.”
According to Hebrews 10:24 (LDB), to help the weak be stronger in the faith, “We should continue to be truly concerned about one another, to help stimulate each other to show love.” We can show or prove our love for God by obeying His commands. Hence, when we remind and encourage our brethren to be active in doing good deeds, we help them become stronger in the faith.
Worshiping God is one of the good deedsin which we shouldstrive to make the weak active. ApostlePaulsaidin Hebrews 10:25 (Translation for Translators), “We must not cease assembling ourselves toworship the Lord.” Hence, it is the duty of eachChurch member toencourageand exhort others. Let us do that all the more since we know that the day that the Lord will return is near.
The children should also be strengthened in the faith. In Deuteronomy 6:6-7 (NIRV), this is what Moses, a messenger of God and one who administered ancient Israel, instructed the parents: “The commandments I give you today must be in your hearts. Make sureyour children learn them.” And so, it is the duty of the parents to instill the true faith in their children at all opportune timesand make sure that they learn God’s teachings that wehave received from God’s Messenger and the Church Administration.
According to Deuteronomy 4:9 (Contemporary English Version), parents should tell their children the things that they have seen God do for them. From the time of God’s Messenger to our time, God has guided and sheltered the Church from intense trials and persecutions. We have seen before our very eyes the phenomenal victories of the Church come one after the other, especially now during the administration of Brother Eduardo Manalo. That is because God fulfilled and continues to fulfill His promise to strengthen, help, and uphold theMessenger and this mission in theselast days.
God did those things as well to each of us.He is the OneWho delivered us from hardship, sickness, sorrows, and wickedness. It is only proper to tell our children about the wondrous things that God has done in our lives so they will learn also to trust and firmly believein God.
For our faith nottoweaken in the face of trouble and suffering, let us do what is stated in Hebrews 10:22-23 (The Living Bible): “Let us go right in to God ... with true hearts fully trusting Him to receive us.”
We are sure that God will receive us when we go to Him in prayer “because we have been sprinkled with Christ’s blood to make us clean.” Hence, one who goes to God or prays to Him needs to be counted among those who were redeemed and are obedient or members of the Church Of Christ who are obedient. And when we pray to God,there should never be any room for doubt because “there is no question that He will do what He says.”
Thus, let us do what the Executive Minister is calling on us to do: Dedicate ourselves to our devotional prayers—personal and householdprayers—and to the complete renewal of life.
When we take refuge and find confidence in God, according to Psalm 57:1-2 (AMP), we can implore Him to be merciful and gracious to us, especially as we facecalamities and destructive storms of life. When we remain strong in the faith no matter what comes into our lives, God will not forsake us. He will bring to pass His wonderful purposes for us,which is why we are completely sure that we will not be defeated by trouble and suffering. Above all, we will receive salvation, which He promised to us.
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED
BY BROTHER ANTONIO T. de GUZMAN JR. SATURDAY/SUNDAY: SEPTEMBER 19/20, 2020",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/iuzo7u/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2020)",iuzo7u,2020-09-17,"When I was about to set aside attending worship service for tomorrow, my mother asks me if I was sure and I was told tomorrow Sunday worship service will be another pay-per-view live worship by EVM followed by the graduation of the student evangelical workers.
I immediately changed my mind and decided to waste one hour today for the worship instead of wasting two hours seeing EVM's face.
Witness the beautiful things I do in order to see less of EVM!
Also, these are my observations for this weekend worship service:
* Offerings: The minister reminded everyone that they should do the ""lagak.""
* Social Media against the Church: The minister told the worshippers to be careful of using social media because ""there are fake news which is against the teachings of INC""
* Church Admin: FYM is being claimed again as authorized by God to preach. EVM was praised for doing his ""job.""
Also, the minister does not mention the chapter and verse of the passages he mentioned. Probably either because he was hurrying or he did not want the member to go search it in the Bible!
After the worship service, I was informed that I was made a group leader in our purok-grupo without my consent. I was forced to accept since my father-minister expects me to accept it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/iuzo7u/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2020)",iuzo7u,2020-09-17,"Don't forget, we're still in the 60 day period of celebrating the most important person in the world who's life is of the highest value.
\- 11th non-static 365 day period of milking sheeple
\- 65th years of freeloading through life
Expect to be taken hostage several times to film video greetings to the aforementioned occasions.
Cheers!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/iuzo7u/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2020)",iuzo7u,2020-09-17,So evm is tirelessly preaching lessons outline by others 😅😅😅.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/iuzo7u/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2020)",iuzo7u,2020-09-17,">I was told tomorrow Sunday worship service will be another pay-per-view live worship by EVM followed by the graduation of the student evangelical workers.
Oh boy, another one of EVM's boring as hell Tagalog bitch feast on how members should treasure their memberships and give money and give money.
>""there are fake news which is against the teachings of INC""
Of course it's always fake news because those arrogant morons can't take it that they're insignificant.
>Church Admin: FYM is being claimed again as authorized by God to preach.
Yup, forget Jesus since EVM is all in his state or glory! Wow, talking about delusions of grandeur, with EVM's over-inflated ego. He and the rest of his minions truly believe that he has some kind of talent.
>he did not want the member to go search it in the Bible!
Exactly....they know that they cherry picked the verses in the Bible and they don't want members to start using their brains and figure them out for themselves that there are hundreds and hundreds of verses in the Bible that INC ministers never read let alone read the entire chapters. Because if they start reading the chapters that each of those verses that they used, then their narrative wouldn't add up nor would it made sense.
>I was informed that I was made a group leader in our purok-grupo without my consent. I was forced to accept since my father-minister expects me to accept it.
That is horrible! Didn't you at least ask why you were given an office when you didn't ask for it?
I feel bad for members who are stuck but my heart goes out especially to the children of the ministers.
When I was still a member, one of the resident ministers we had, had a family (wife and 3 children). The kids were young with the oldest was just starting high school (9th grade), middle child in middle school (7th grade) and the youngest in the elementary school (4th grade). One day I saw them taking oath for choir members (the oldest in senior and the other 2 in junior choir). I was flabbergasted because they were so young especially the oldest to have that type of responsibility.
Nevertheless, they didn't look happy when they took oath and it dawned on me then that they were forced to by their father or probably by the mother too. I feel bad for the kids.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/iuzo7u/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2020)",iuzo7u,2020-09-17,So it was a Pay-Per-View for this worship service lead by the Beloved One?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/iuzo7u/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2020)",iuzo7u,2020-09-17,They are also not mentioning the bibles they are using most of the time now too.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/iuzo7u/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2020)",iuzo7u,2020-09-17,See. And they deny putting that man on a pedestal and all those money making schemes. Wow.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/iuzo7u/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2020)",iuzo7u,2020-09-17,Probably difficult to be held hostage since all WS is now webex! Now everyone must make their own greetings via webex to show their faithfulness to Saint EVM. Make sure you all are kneeling or else you won’t be saved!🇨🇮🤦🏽,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/iuzo7u/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2020)",iuzo7u,2020-09-17,"Unfortunately, I am expected to follow because I have been known as the white sheep of the family. And also there is nothing else who will handle the said position. However, I am most likely just a filler; my father would definitely not bother sending me outside to the local members (I hope so 🥺). He rather have me print documents from their Telegram.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/iuzo7u/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2020)",iuzo7u,2020-09-17,"Yes. While I was in our pastoral house, I heard wailing again. Then EVM discuss the lesson live. It was a surprise that it lasted only for an hour and a half. Yes it's PPV but live and only in September 20 of Sunday 10 am. The lesson are just the same in this week's WS lesson guide.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/iuzo7u/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2020)",iuzo7u,2020-09-17,"The lessons have been the same for many years now, whether is from the ""Beloved One"" paper view or from the local minister.
Aren't they aware that the lessons are repetitive that they're so insanely boring!?! Or are they so entitled with their so-called-greatness that they feel that the members are so dumb that they have to be told the same crap every time.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/iuzo7u/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2020)",iuzo7u,2020-09-17,"Indeed! It is obvious the ministers treat you all like fools. That is called ""BRAINWASHING.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/iuzo7u/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,Imagine standing for 20 mins straight for two prayers and an ordination.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,PPV,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,"Local minion held a ""devotional prayer"" this week for the upcoming shit show.
I don't understand the need for praying for something that has already happened and is in the past.
The level of idiocy never ceases to amaze/amuse. O\_o'",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,It is just a way to tell the minions to prepare their special offerings to the person with special needs.😁,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,Yaaay Mr. Excitement blesses us with his words of wisdom this weekend. Got to get up early tomorrow to listen to something that will put me right back to sleep.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,"Two major themes in the PPV: Detractors, Social Media against the Church.
The lesson was all about guarding INC faith.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,"Aside from a power trip, what exactly do Mr. Manalo and his reader gain from spending 10 minutes (or more) on a single verse? Likewise, do those praying gain anything with their 15-minute “prayers” (if they can even be called that at this point)? Does any of that invite the Holy Spirit or add to the experience in a positive way?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,"I'm sure Big Ed's final sentence was ""Do not include me (EVM) in your prayers. Not 2 minutes after he said that was 3 minutes (out of a 15 minute prayer, must be another record) dedicated to him",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,The minister was announcing it as EVM playback and my housemates started whining and whimpering with their mouths closed and I have to cover my mouth as I cant hold my laugh anymore.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,Just had mine. The prayers were 90% EVM love and 10% Jesus and Almighty Father love. I’m so glad I did my worship service in my room. I was just playing Call of Duty while I had the worship service on my other monitor and volume down.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,it's all about training the fckers to obey everything they say. they guilt trip them by saying it's a sacred holy fcking occasion,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,Maybe they ought to pray to give everyone patience for all the same crappy stuff.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,"May I know what a “devotional prayer” is? I’m non-member tho 😅
Thanks!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,"What exactly were they praying for? And seriously, why pray? Praying is just asking God to change his plans, he's not going to change his plans for anyone. Plus, he already knows what you're going to pray for even before you know what you want to pray for so why pray? It's ridiculous!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,Yes the church has problems indeed. They will never recover from what happened 5 years ago.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,"It bothers me so mich how he kept interrupting his reader every few words and asking him to repeat certain portions of the verse, add a few examples and a couple tangents here and there before moving on. It's like he's lecturing to a bunch of 5-year olds and it just makes me want to just tune out altogether. No wonder his lectures are always one hour minimum... and the topics are the exact same bullsht. Every single time!! And the minions kept saying how ""blessed"" they are. Wtf",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,"Seriously? This is hilarious if that actually happens. I think EVM knows his church is a mess, but it seems his power only goes so far in the end.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,Just let it out. Don't hold it in.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,I silently pray for EVM to convert to Islam. It hasn't worked yet.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,"It's just a prayer that the members do to ""prepare"" for an event that's going to happen. Say the Holy Supper service, the members pray for a week or so every night at a specific time so that everything on that day will go according to plan.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,"I believe the minion's rational was for the streamed service to go smooth without and issues or interruptions.
This is one of the dumbest I ever heard in life.
Joke's on this INCult clown, somewhere out there I'm sure there's thousands of people stuck in this cult hoping/praying for the opposite. Lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,">he kept interrupting his reader every few words and asking him to repeat certain portions of the verse, add a few examples and a couple tangents here and there before moving on.
I'm sorry, my English is not good and nope, I'm not from the Philippines, so don't even try to reply in Tagalog/Filipino ;b
Anyways, can you explain to me a lil bit more about that above that I quoted?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,I can't stop laughing 🤣🤣🤣 let's pray harder. But Islam will allow him several wives. I'm still laughing 🤣🤣🤣,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,Are you planning on having a devotional prayer? 😃,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,"Ohhh okay, is this what they call ""panata"" in tagalog?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,"Is it the kind of prayer that one says to themselves, something like ""Dear, God \[blablabla\], Amen"" or there are some step-by-step ~~ritualistic~~ procedures like let's say Jewish and Muslim daily prayers?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,Of course. lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,Yes,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,They can do it by themselves but it’s mostly done in a group setting every day at a specific time for usually a week. There have been cases they did it every day for a month.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,Hahahaha just imagine if that would really happen?! Those members will be beside themselves.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2020)",izd9o7,2020-09-24,"I see~
Thank you for replying!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/izd9o7/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,"(Fair Use) Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976, allowance is made for ""fair use"" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education, and research.
Reference: HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICEBASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINEDBY BROTHER RANDY L. WEIRSATURDAY/SUNDAY: OCTOBER 3/4, 2020
Page 1
THE ELECTION OF THE MESSENGER OF GOD IN THESE LAST DAYS AND THE AUTHORITY OF THE CHURCH ADMINISTRATION
It is very important for every member of the Church Of Christ to understand and firmly believe in the significance of God's sending a Messenger and of His placing an Administration in the Church so that each one will become strong in the faith and certain of salvation.
God sent His messenger in these last days through biblical prophecy, as what is written in Isaiah 46:11-13 (New King James Version):11Calling a bird of prey from the east, the man who executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed, I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it. 12Listen to Me, you stubborn-hearted, who are far from righteousness: 13I bring My righteousness near, it shall not be far off; My salvation shall not linger. And I will place salvation in Zion, For Israel My glory.
God called a man who would execute His counsel like a bird of prey. He would come from a far country in the east or Far East. We firmly believe that the fulfillment of this prophecy was Brother Felix Manalo, whose work began in the Philippines, a country in the Far East.It has also been taught to us that God would call a Messenger at the time called “ends of the earth” or when the end of the world is near, as signified by the outbreak of a world war, according to the prophecy of Christ in Matthew 24:3, 33, and 6-8. That was fulfilled on July 27, 1914 when Brother Felix Manalo registered the Church Of Christ in the Philippines.
Concerning the work of His Messenger, God said, “I bring My righteousness near, it shall not be far off; My salvation shall not linger.” Thus, the work entrusted to the Messenger is God's last work of salvation.
God's righteousness is the gospel, which is the power of God to salvation, according to Romans 1:16-17. In fulfillment of the prophecy, Brother Felix Manalo preached God’s words written in the Bible. His work of preaching the gospel was likened to thatof a bird of prey because, through it, he would snatch people from false religions and from the impending punishment on Judgment Day.
In the prophecy, God also said, “I will place salvation in Zion.” Zion refers to the Church, which is “composed of all those registered in heaven” who were “redeemed,” based on Hebrews 12:22-23 (The Living Bible). What was redeemed with the blood of Christ is the Church Of Christ, according to Acts 20:28 (Lamsa Translation). Therefore, the work entrusted by God to His Messenger in the last days, Brother Felix Manalo, was to preach the true Church Of Christ. Its members are certain of receiving salvation.
Revelation 7:2-3 describes the Messenger and his work as follows:2Then I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God. And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, saying, 3“Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.
The prophecy speaks of “another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God.” The east being referred to is also the Far East, the Philippines, where Brother Felix Manalo began his work.
We are certain that he is the one referred to in this prophecy as “another angel” because the term “angel” means messenger, according to this same verse as rendered in the Young's Literal Translation. Thus, the term “angel” does not refer to nature or state of being but to office or duty. According to the prophecy, the task of the messenger was to seal the servants of God on their foreheads. He is not alone in that work because he said “till we have sealed. ”The seal, based on Ephesians 1:13-14 (Good News Bible), is the Holy Spirit—the “stamp of ownership” given to those who have the right as God’s people and the guarantee that they will receive the inheritance, which is salvation. People are sealed when they firmly believe in the true message preached by God's messenger. Thus, the work of God's messenger is very important.
For this reason, Christ teaches us in John 6:29 (Knox Translation) to believe in the one whom God has sent. Just as many believed the messengers in the past, such as Noah, Moses, the prophets, the apostles, and the greatest of them all, our Lord Jesus Christ, we should also firmly believe God’s sending of Brother Felix Manalo as His
Messenger.
His authority as a true messenger of God is proven by the prophecies in the Bible and the truths written therein that he taught. Although the Messenger in these last days passed away, we are able to remain in the truth and are certain of salvation because, as foretold also in the prophecy, the Messenger has companions in the work of sealing the servants of God. They are the ministers of the Church, led by the Executive Minister.
The authority and office of the minister appointed to administer the Church and make known God’s message is from God Himself, according to Colossians 1:25 (Holman Christian Standard Bible). Upon the passing of Brother Felix Manalo, the one who succeeded him as Executive Minister of the Church was Brother Eraño Manalo. When he passed away, the one who succeeded him is Brother Eduardo Manalo, the current Executive Minister of the Church.
Therefore, even though the messenger-leader had passed away, the authority and office to administer and preach did not die with him but have been passed on to the one appointed and placed by God to administer the entire Church so the work of salvation will continue. Like the messengers of God in the past entrusted with the ministry of reconciliation, the Executive Minister also has the role of administering and leading people in their reconciliation with God, according to Second Corinthians 5:18-20.
God also gave them the authority for edification, according to Second Corinthians 13:10. Therefore, we must be united in all the activities that the Church Administration launches for the edification of our faith. To strengthen further our hope for salvation, Brother Eduardo Manalo is working “with a tireless intensity” to oversee, teach, and lead us in all activities in the Church. He is doing that to present every member of the Church Of Christ perfect in Christ, according to Colossians1:28-29 (The Passion Translation).
Moreover, as stated in Second Peter 1:12-13 (New Living Translation 2015), our Executive Minister always reminds us about these things so we will remain “standing firm in the truth” taught to us. That is why, in every worship service and even in other occasions, we receive exhortations from our Executive Minister to love and value our divine election. He always reminds us of the grace and blessings that will be ours as God has promised and encourages us to put all our hope in them.
The instruction of the Executive Minister is just as what is written in Second Peter 1:10-11 (Good News Bible):10So then, my friends, try even harder to make God’s call and his choice of you a permanent experience; if you do so, you will never abandon your faith. 11In this way you will be given the full right to enter the eternal Kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Let us remain united with the Executive Minister and obey all the teachings of God that we receive in our worship services. Doing so, we will find all the help and strength we need. We will remain secure in our calling and hope until the Second Advent of Christ. We will all rejoice together in our true home, the Holy City, enjoying the true and eternal life.
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICEBASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINEDBY BROTHER RANDY L. WEIRSATURDAY/SUNDAY: OCTOBER 3/4, 2020",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,"Am predicting the following themes
\- One True Church
\- Value the church membership
\- Offer abundantly/generously
\- End of the year thanksgiving",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,"this is the first time i read the lesson connecting the ends of the earth ditectly with an exact date 27jul1914. in my younger years, the ends of the earth is associated with 6th and 7th seals and going to the verse ""wars and rumors of war, nation will rise against nation ..."" then connect it with the registration of church on the said date. i understand now where rauffen is coming from. hope the onlooker minister correct this.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,"i earnestly hope that FYM defenders attended this HWS because it is clearly stated there that god would call a messenger at the time called 'ends of the earth', we all know by now that INC refers to this day as july 27, 1914 and not sometime in 1913",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,Inteinde! Feel the love,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,"Topic is
THE ELECTION OF THE MESSENGER OF GOD IN THESE LAST DAYS AND THE AUTHORITY OF THE CHURCH ADMINISTRATION",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,"**Hymns**
The hymns for today's service went:
* standard officers' prayer hymn (235)
* short and sweet yet otherwise standard hymn of praise (61)
* showtune about being saved with a verse dedicated to duty/obedience (56)
* hymn about the messenger (401)
* obedience/submission hymn (367)
* prayer hymn (10)
* before text hymn (217)
* offering hymn (122)
* showtune that outlines the condition of the outside world in verses 1 and 2, obedience/submission in the refrain, and duty in verse 3 (290)
I'm not sure what exactly the music department and the higher-ups are going for, but I don't think it's a good thing if the highlight of the hymns (at least IMO) is the first hymn or the hymn before the text. Isn't the high point supposed to be the 3rd and/or 4th hymn (maybe 2nd depending on the lineup)? Are we supposed to be crying our eyes out during a hymn about the messenger or a submission/obedience hymn?
*Tangent:* Looking at the preludes/interludes today, I saw no fewer than four hymns (341; 278; 268; 244) that were about the messenger (and the latter three were even played back to back). The reason I say ""no fewer than four"" is because I can't remember what 352 is about. To me, it's a nice-sounding hymn, but part of me wouldn't be surprised if the lyrics would cause uneasiness to the average person. Anyway, I digress. Moving forward...
**Sermon**
Honestly, I can't find much to say apart from what others have already said. It's just a cookie-cutter ""lesson"" about how we should hold onto our calling and we are (supposedly) the ones God called to be saved. Did the Administration decide to stop teaching the other lessons? Did the other lessons ""accidentally"" get deleted or lost somehow?
*Tangent*: My resident worker managed to plug the Bible Studies and devotional prayers into the sermon and claim that attending them is what God requires of us. First of all, do we not have free will? Or are the current ministers programmed not to believe such a concept? Second, why do some ministers (not all, I hope) plug such events and then some into the WS actual? Is WS not a sacred time devoted to God and Christ?
Really makes you wonder what today's ministers & workers are being taught...and it really makes you hope & pray there are exceptions to this rule.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,Please keep posting the lessons or PM me them. I want to continue doing REACTION lessons to counter them. Thanks!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,Messenger of God in these last days is Christ. Hebrews 1:1-2.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,"I wanna puke reading their ""interpretation"" of those verses, *huek* 🤢",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,"Actually this one was the one were they deliberately misinterpret the phrase ""ends of the earth"", and state that Felix was the Angel in revelations; the Isiah verse that is about Cyrus is really about Felix Manalo because it mentions the far east, and the Philippines (along with a lot of other nations) is in the far east, so they must be talking about the PI and sir Felix, etc... message. I listened to the first five minutes or so, then tuned out.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,Just like any other day,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,"Also, the term ""ends of the earth"", refers to geography, not time. If the verse said ""the end times"" instead of ends of the earth, they might have a point. But since it says ends of the earth, they don't.
I have heard some Manalo ministers claim that the verse is misinterpreted by those that wrote the English versions of the bible. But the phrase ""ends of the earth"" in English means remote/distant locations. So if those that wrote the versions of the bible which the INC uses actually misinterpreted the original Greek or Latin, it would mean that the INC is using a flawed copy of the bible. Which negates their whole message.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,Exactly.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,"It's kind of pain reading it though, I'm the one who lead my siblings in reading ughhh.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,"Sure.i will while supply lasts from district.
Read on lurkers!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,"""Ex-INC reacts to INC worship lessons""
Sounds like a content to me :D",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,My turn to puke in a few minutes. Hope i can control it...my wife and 2 daughters is in front listening to me reading this shit,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,5 minutes ?? i tune out as soon as it starts !!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,Exactly. lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,"yes its a place but even if we agree that it is about time, it still doesnt fit with the FYM narrative",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,I do hope those 2 will reply/continue the discussion,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,"yes very long, thanks anggel for sharing it, anyways i hope you can see the difference between what is being said in the WS and what the defenders are saying",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,Eek...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2020)",j3obta,2020-10-01,"Same here, but I had to watch this morning due to some technical difficulties they were having with the connection. Wife kept peppering me with questions.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,The lesson of household of worship is outlined by no other than evm himself. Feel his love to all of us.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,"++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Reference: BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED BY BROTHER EDUARDO V. MANALO
WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY: OCTOBER 7/8, 2020
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HOW MUCH DO WE LOVE OUR MEMBERHIP IN THE CHURCH OF CHRIST?
We acknowledge that we received a great blessing from God when He called us into the Church Of Christ. Through it, we will be saved by Christ from eternal punishment. It is also through our membership in the Church that we are able to render the true, meaningful, and acceptable worship and service to God by virtue of the right we received. It is only proper that we highly regard our membership in the Church Of Christ. Let us love and take good care of it.
Let us now take the time to ponder: How much do we love our membership in the Church Of Christ? Looking back, why did we join the Church Of Christ?
We joined the Church Of Christ because of our obedience to the Savior, our Lord Jesus Christ. According to John 10:3, 7 and 9 (Revised English Bible), Christ said that He is the door of the sheepfold. He was not referring to literal sheep, but to people, because He added that anyone who comes into the fold through Him will be saved.
Based on Acts 20:28 (Lamsa Translation), the sheepfold—where those who entered through the door who is Christ and will be saved by Him—is the Church Of Christ. It is the Church that Christ purchased or redeemed with His blood. That is the reason we joined this Church.
That is why we are reminded by the apostles in Hebrews 10:23-24 (Last Days Bible), to keep holding on firmly to the hope that we have—that we will be saved by Christ. Let us put our hope on that blessing that will come.
Because of that, all Church Of Christ members—not just the Church officers—have a duty to stimulate or encourage each other to be more active. If there are those who are weakening and becoming cold in the faith, we should help each other to become active, especially if they are members of our household. We must show love to each other and be active in doing good deeds.
And so, let us love our brethren in the Church. Let us love the Church. Let us love our membership in the Church Of Christ.
According to First Corinthians 16:14 (Amplified Bible), we can prove that we love our membership in the Church Of Church if everything that we do is done in love. What should motivate us in whatever we do is our love for God, for our Lord Jesus Christ, and for our fellowmen.
According to John 14:15 (LDB), We can prove our love for our Lord Jesus Christ by doing what He tells us to do and by not doing the things He tells us not to do.
Let us remember what is written in First John 5:3 (AMP) that if we obey God’s commands, we are able to prove our love for Him. That is why, we should keep His commandments and understand His ordinances and teachings. That is why our Executive Minister, Brother Eduardo Manalo, reminds us to conduct complete and intensive obedience to the teachings of God. In that way, we will be able to prove our love for God, for Christ, and for our membership in the Church Of Christ.
To prevent our love for God, for Christ, and for the Church Of Christ from being ruined, the apostles instruct us in First Timothy 6:3-5 (Easy-to-Read Version) to never listen to anyone who teaches things that are false.
It was forewarned long ago that there would be such kind of teachers. In these present times, there are also false teachers. They cannot accept the teachings that agree with the true way to serve God. They pretend to be wise and are so proud of what they know. They want to instill in the minds of people jealousy, quarrels, insults, and evil mistrust. That is what is being done by those who left and rebelled against the Church—their motive in teaching is to ruin people’s love for God, for Christ, and for the Church Of Christ. We should not listen or believe such kind of teachers because, as the Bible says, they have lost their understanding of the truth. They will only mislead people. Therefore, it is evil to listen to false prophets and their lies.
The ones whom we should listen to are the messengers of God and the Church Administration that God placed in the Church to make His words known. According to Jeremiah 7:25-26 and 28 (New Life Version), God is angry with and resents His servants who do not listen to and accept the messengers whom He sent to them. God considers that as a horrendous sin.
Hence, let us faithfully obey God’s teachings and ordinances that were taught by His Messenger and the Administration that He placed in the Church. That is how we can keep our love for God, for Christ, and for the Church Of Christ from being ruined so we will not be defeated by any kind of evil.
Likewise, our Lord Jesus Christ teaches us in Matthew 16:24 (LDB)that we need to endure and sacrifice. We should not live for the purpose of pleasing and satisfying our own natural desires. That is the cross we should take up to fully obey or follow Christ.
If that is the kind of faith and conviction that a member of the Church Of Christ has, he will not be defeated by any kind of evil in the world. No matter how strong the temptations are, he will not give in and disobey or violate the laws and teachings of God. No matter how severe persecutions are, he will never let anything separate him from the Church.
According to Psalm 121:1-3 (ERV), we can rely on God to help and rescue us so we will not let go of our divine election even if we endure hardships and severe trials. Let us firmly believe that He will not allow us to fall into failure and misfortune.
Hence, let us ask God for the help that we need for us to uphold our divine election. Let us put all our hope in Him and in the grace that will be ours, which He will grant us. Let us beseech Him to edify our faith and to make our love for Him, for His begotten Son, and for the holy Church to abound even more. May God help and guide us in our journey in this world so all of us can finish our race and reach the Holy City, which He promised to us.
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINEDBY BROTHER EDUARDO V. MANALO
WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY: OCTOBER 7/8, 2020
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,The purpose of this Insurance Policy lesson is to keep members fooled and continue to keep the cash inflow.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,"At what point shall we all start thinking of other things
Me - Acknowledge",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,"PPV this weekend !!!!
Said to Mrs I am not attending as I can't stand Big Ed and his 15 minute prayer !!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,"Obedience and duty seemed to be the ruling theme in this WS’ hymns (shocker, I know). Today’s lesson was (Drumroll please!) our membership in the supposedly true church! Who could’ve seen this coming?
Witticism aside, if this is the true church, does it need to be said every service? Other things said in this service just like every WS include obedience to the administration, abounding of offerings, participation in all the activities, brainwa—I mean teaching the youth, and being baptized isn’t enough to be saved.
Do you remember those times when certain hymns (esp. 50) would be blasted on repeat for weeks? Well, the administration apparently has seen it fit to blast the same “lesson” on repeat for roughly 5 years now! Notice that the hymns kept getting changed? I guess so did the lessons, and they all became the same monotonous lesson to be taught for years, decades, perhaps centuries or more to come.
R.I.P. the other lessons: 1913 to c. 2015. You will be missed, but certainly not by the administration",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05, Acts 20:28 (Lamsa Translation) makes an appearance. Noted po!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,he as actually done a bit of work !!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,Exactly what's any different here than any other EVM? It seriously doesn't feel like these worship services are offering anything new or any actual worship. It's kind of become recital at this point.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,"The Administration seems to have retired, “lost,” or straight-up deleted the other lessons. How much longer can they keep regurgitating the same “lesson”? Actually...I hope they don’t answer that",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,Thanks for posting.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,"There are many of us in the ex-INC community who have went through pain, persecution, and trials not just at a physical level, but at a psychological level as we slowly learn the truth of the church’s doctrines, and end up getting persecuted and clumsily manipulated by those very brethren for doing so.
It genuinely hurts to see the INC, which we have entrusted to be the lights of the world, end up calling these victims of their persecution “deceitful liars”, and to call the brethren “evil” if they listen to them.
That is undeniably real conditioning. It has to stop.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,"It's a repeat lesson for sure maybe with slight edits, that is it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,Welcome to the Iglesia Ni Cristo as I mentioned before their theology is super thin. They will never go past beyond the talking points you just read above. I think you know that already. If you attended worship service in 40 years you'll be hearing the same thing above. That's the Iglesia reality. Your INC friend can confirm that is true.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,"On point!
Can confirm, I’ve been attending for 40yrs and it’s the same.
...but we should not become offended or tired of listening to the words of god /s",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,"He surprisingly still has a high opinion of the worship services and their content. He doesn't seem to have any in-depth understanding beyond these points and his own speculation, however, so I do think he's been getting repetitive lessons as well. He usually refers to these same teachings as *reminders* to follow the INC faith.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,">He doesn't seem to have any in-depth understanding
Sadly no he doesn't. This is how it has been for him since the Children's Worship Service.
>He surprisingly still has a high opinion of the worship services and their content.
Imagine being conditioned and brainwashed to think this way for 20-30 + years. As I said, the dogmatic theology is super-super thin. Offering, Membership, Messenger, Administration is just about the basic element and ingredients to a INC Worship Service. The occasional catholic and protestant bashing in-between.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,"And now with the added, ""Don't read the negative things about the church in social media. They're all false and we only speak the truth so listen to us. Never question anything we say or do.""
I added the last bits because that's really how it is now and that's the part that really made me open my eyes even more. If you can't question anything and have a civil discussion without being labeled a detractor or being told to just believe whatever they say without question, then there's something being hidden. If you question truth, you should get truth back.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2020)",j5z0p4,2020-10-05,">If you can't question anything and have a civil discussion without being labeled a detractor or being told to just believe whatever they say without question, then there's something being hidden. If you question truth, you should get truth back.
True.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j5z0p4/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"They announced Wednesday that in an effort to improve the lives of the brethern, they will be streaming the imperious leader on this weekend's service. This will be of great benefit to any members suffering from insomnia. What a wonderful thing for the administration to do. They are always looking out for the members.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"What kept me awake during those EVM video WS was tallying how many times he says ""TULOY"" 🤣",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,Breathren lets all stand and pray.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"Dear INC administration. I am sharing my faith using this platform.
Dear evm reward me please with the salvation of my soul for sharing may faith to millions",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"
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Reference: HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON, OUTLINED BY BROTHER RANDY L. WEIR SATURDAY/SUNDAY: OCTOBER 10/11, 2020
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EVERY CHURCH OF CHRIST MEMBER HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROCLAIM ALWAYS HIS SALVATION TO OTHERS
Our membership in the Church Of Christ is of great value. We consider it our true wealth, which we will never exchange for anyone or anything in this world, no matter what. That’s because, as Church Of Christ members, we have been freed from the condemnation of God and have received His great love and mercy as His people. Through His Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, we have been redeemed and forgiven of our sins, and now we are the ones whom God recognizes as His chosen ones. Hence, we have the hope of receiving salvation and eternal life. However, we should not keep to ourselves but share with our fellowmen the grace that we received.
Every Church Of Christ member has the responsibility to always proclaim his redemption and salvation to others. That is what God commands and expects from those He redeemed. Psalm 107:2-3 (Holman Christian Standard Bible) states, “Let the redeemed of the Lord proclaim that He has redeemed them ... and gathered them from the lands—from the east and the west, from the north and the south.”
According to the prophecy of God written in Isaiah 62:11-12 (Modern English Version), the redeemed of the Lord who should proclaim that He has redeemed them is “the daughter of Zion” from the “ends of the earth.” The “daughter of Zion” refers to the Church Of Christ in these last days. The Bible testifies that this Church is the “Holy People, the Redeemed of the Lord” and “[its] salvation comes” as “Hisrecompense.”
The Church Of Christ was purchased or redeemed by the blood of Christ (Acts 20:28 LamsaTranslation). Thus, we are the ones whom God expects to proclaim our redemption or salvation.
The Church today is composed of people called from 158 countries and territories. So, what is written in Psalm 107:2-3 (HCSB)is being fulfilled: “From the lands—from the east and the west, from the north and the south” God has gathered or called those counted as redeemed.
So, in whatever country we are, we should proclaim our redemption or salvation because it is the will of God for every member of the Church Of Christ.
According to Psalm 40:9-10 (HCSB), we fulfill the will of God to proclaim our redemption or salvation by proclaiming His righteousness and salvation. We should not keep silent and keep this to ourselves. We should proclaim and speak of it to our fellowmen.
No Church Of Christ member should avoid the responsibility to help in proclaiming the gospel and persuading others to join the true Church. Because, according to John 15:16, the reason we were called and chosen as members of the Church Of Christ is for us to bear fruit.
When we fulfill the purpose of our being called, which is to bear fruit, we glorify the Father, according to Christ as written in John 15:8. Aside from that, we also prove that we are Christ’s true disciples and that we value our membership in the Church Of Christ.
According to Romans 16:5 (Amplified Version) and 16 (Revised Geneva Translation), one kind of fruit expected of us is to convert people to Christ or help them become members of the Church Of Christ. Thus, just as living in the newness of life, loving the brotherhood, being prayerful, attending the worship service, giving voluntary offerings, and participating in all Church activities are fruits or works of holiness expected of us, we are expected as well to bear much fruit by bringing many converts or new members into the Church. We can do that when we are active in sharing our faith, according to Philemon 1:6 (New International Version).
Thus, let us invite our fellowmen to attend our worship services, evangelical missions, and Bible studies; to tune in to our radio, TV, and online religious programs; and to read the magazine, Pasugo: God’s Message. In that way, people will learn the correct manner of serving and worshiping God conducted in the Church Of Christ. Let us lead and guide them in every step of joining the Church until they are baptized.
Let us fully believe that all our efforts and sacrifices in helping the work of propagation are not in vain, according to Apostle Paul in First Corinthians 15:58. It is mentioned in the Mace New Testament version of this verse that the Lord will not leave your Christian labor unrewarded.
According to the Lord Jesus Christ, in John 15:16, one of the rewards that we will receive for actively helping in the work of propagation is that God will answer our prayers. In these times of trouble and hardship, we need all the help and support that we can obtain from God. When we fulfill His purpose of choosing and calling us to bear fruit, we can expect God to answer our prayers as Christ promised. We are also storing up for ourselves a firm basis for obtaining the true life or everlasting life, according to First Timothy 6:18-19 (New International Reader’s Version).
Let us follow the dedication made by the Christians in the first century in sharing their faith. It says in Acts 5:42 (NIV), “Day after day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they never stopped teaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Christ.” May we also find time everyday to share our faith with others—be it in our own homes, in the missionary centers, or in the house of worship—to bear abundant fruit to please and glorify God.
To succeed in our duty to share our faith with others and to bring glory to God, let us earnestly and sincerely pray and ask help from God, as what is taught in Ephesians 3:14 (The Living Bible) and 20-21 (Traducción En Lenguaje Actual). He has the power to do much more than we ask.
As the Church Administration always reminds us, let us all hold personal and family prayers to ask not only for our daily needs but also for His help and for the strength and success we need in fulfilling our duties to Him at all times.
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON
OUTLINED BY BROTHER RANDY L. WEIR
SATURDAY/SUNDAY: OCTOBER 10/11, 2020
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"Typical videostreamed shitshow bountiful of lies by none other than the self proclaimed ""Most Important Person in the World"". As if it's no surprise, its the same old EVM delivered INCult drivel.
Go save yourselves 2 hours of your lives and do something else of better value.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,Super boring he just was putting down other religions instead of preaching about his own religion. What kind of lesson? Loll,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,Video stream of El Lard Ass Ed !!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,I have a good feeling about this one!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"ROFL!!! For insomniac members, sleep will only happen twice a week for an hour each. Aaaw INC is also compassionate. Who said they aren't.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"Love this post, 😄",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,what was the final count?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,Was it a PPV with EVM for this weekend's service?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"Okay at this point I really wonder if the INC has any worship services that actually have to do with worship... Or at least, lessons that don't sound like they're trying desperately to prove they are the true church. What happened to teaching Christian values by studying the Bible for the sake of betterment? Why must it always come around to membership? (Yes, because membership is the path to salvation...)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"I’ve seen John 15:16 being used to tell the prospect of “bearing fruit”, but the INC’s impression of “bearing fruit”—as far as I know from being in a CFO since I was baptized—is always about “inviting and converting non-members”.
This really is just an order by the administration for us to invite and convert without question. Has bearing fruit ever been about the “practice of Christian values of faith and kindness” and NOT “obey the administrative values of propagation”?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,Came here cuz I'm curious. The time I started reading... Ugh! Can't handle it--,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"May the beloved leader say, ""reddit"" once.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"ROFL. At 30 mins it's usually at 15. When it's done, an average of 25 max. 🤣🤣",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"Yeah, it was a streamer of EVM.
Funniest thing about it is that its in tagalog. I am getting older, can't see as well, but my wife insist on setting the laptop further back. So I can't see the caption either. But since I never listen, and certainly wouldn't bother reading it, doesn't really matter.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,I don't know. My friend said it was a video WS of EVM inside a chapel,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"There's really not a lot of that if any. Most of the focus is really just on a few topics. I think the last few lessons including the playback was mainly focused around membership and why you need to be an INC member to receive salvation. It's a lot of convincing the members to stay and not to be persuaded to leave.
They bash other religions as examples. EVM talked about how other religions are closing their doors because of covid. I'm not sure how true this is, but I'd assume they're just doing online worship like everyone else then taking donations online. He also mentioned protestants who converted to INC talking about how they complained that the protestant preacher would say a verse and tell a story. I think the opposite is true for INC in which they hear why they need to remain in the church, why they need to give abundantly even during hard times, and why other religions are not the true religion.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,Because all they care about is 'em money. They gotta make sure their cows don't escape so they will still have milks to milk.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"The topic of bearing fruit is where ministers struggle to stay consistent. Before minister will tell in WS that bearing fruit is about doing good like helping your brother, helping in financially etc. Sometimes mere act of inviting people equates to bearing fruit. Other minister will tell that its the ministers job to convert, members job is to invite. Sometimes it means its literally refers to conversion of people to join the cult. But its consistent during OM, its a conversion with matching stats, at the extreme showing the faces of those officers who have ""converts"" in the big screen. Yes.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"As far as I know, ""bearing fruit"" always refers to bringing people into the faith, either by conversion or leading by example.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"Funny story but I told my INC friend in a debate: if prayer really had any physical effects on the world, and if someone like Cornelius (who wanted to be a member of Christ's church) got his prayers answered, then I should also be able to. So my INC friend told me to pray for a sign in Jesus Christ's name.
I said I'd pray for the church administration to openly address the questions of this subreddit. In the name of Jesus Christ.
My friend gave me the go-to. Lol. To this day, there has still yet to be such a God-given Q&A from the INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"Is EVM going on for a record? I wonder what the total # on his next paper view? 🙄 I hated attending his paper view when I was still a member. Seriously I missed many because his paper view was so bloody tedious that I preferred to stay home and watched hummingbirds ate (in my backyard).
One of my nephews (my husband's brother's son) said that EVM was as boring as ever and the old geezer desperately trying to be funny, always interrupting his side kick. Perhaps he believes that he's interesting? Who knows!
Nevertheless, I never understood that format. It's just plain weird, strange, and stupid.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"*Oh boy, this is long*.
That seems to be the case. While I can see ""bearing fruit"" as both ""inviting"" and ""leading by example"", the INC seems centralize the term around conversion.
This is merely in my perspective, but ""leading by example"" appears to be elaborated more elsewhere in INC doctrine. A term that the officers use more often for that is ""shining as lights of the world"", which would be attributed more to **Matthew 5:13-14** (*13You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its savor, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men. 14\*\*You* *are* *the* *light* *of the* *world.* *A city* *on* *a hill* *cannot* *be hidden*), which I believe is a verse that the INC has preached before.
There just seems to be this lack of elaboration on the process of ""bearing fruit"" in the INC beyond ""prove your faith by converting others"". It's gone to the point where I had to do research myself to learn that ""bearing fruit"" *includes* maintaining spiritual health, hence ""leading by example"".
During a past district meeting (this is in the west btw), a verse they used to address those who were struggling to invite was **Romans 2:21-23** ( *21 you, then, who teach others, do you not teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal? 22 You who say that people should not commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? 23 You who boast in the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law?*)
The INC disregards this other layer to ""bearing fruit"" including ""leading by example"". During a local meeting when I was even younger, They used *multiple* translations of Mark 5:19—in the same sermon—to justify the doctrine of ""invite, invite, invite"".
**Mark 5:19 ESV** (*19 And he did not permit him but said to him, “Go home to your* ***friends*** *and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and how he has had mercy on you.”* ) They used this to justify inviting your friends.
**Mark 5:19** **GW** (*19 But Jesus would not allow it. Instead, he told the man, “Go home to your* ***family***, *and tell them how much the Lord has done for you and how merciful he has been to you.”*) They used this to justify inviting non-INC relatives.
**Mark 5:19 NIV** (*19 Jesus did not let him, but said, “Go home to your own* ***people*** *and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and how he has had mercy on you.”*) They then used this, last but not least, to justify inviting *everyone*.
Sorry if I'm rambling, and if this has little to do with today's sermon, but my past struggles of inviting when the order is ""invite, invite, invite"" was one of the things that drove a wedge into this sense of responsibility towards my duties as an officer.
Perhaps I should address this in a separate post...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"Lol. He's going for the record of being the most boring preacher. He tops everytime hehe. My friend said the latest tally was at 31 ""Tuloy's"" 🤣🤣 this weekend's video she said.
I noticed that all his videos were the same pattern. It was always a countdown of natural disasters and maligning other religions. My attention span was just 5 mins or less. Nothing new and inspiring.
That was when I started tallying his ""Tuloy"" just to keep me awake. Lol.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"When you spend your entire life having your behind kissed, well of course you think you jokes are funny. EVM is probably a fine example of the emperor having no clothes on. No one is ever going to tell him, dude let the better speakers do the webex's.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2020)",j7stfx,2020-10-08,"I found your post informative, actually! Thanks for going into detail. I can see what you mean... Oh, the INC has so much it needs to work on fundamentally...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j7stfx/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2020)",ja6soo,2020-10-12,"(Fair Use) Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research.
Reference:
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED
BY BROTHER EDUARDO V. MANALO
WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY: OCTOBER 14/15, 2020
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
THE PEOPLE WHOM THE BIBLE IDENTIFIES AS BLESSED
People of this world use various standards and measures in identifying who are blessed. For some, the measure of being blessed is the amount of wealth or material possessions a person has. For others, it is based on how successful a person is in his quest for and advancement in knowledge. Some think that blessed are those who have strong and healthy bodies, while others suppose that those who have power and influence in society are also blessed.
However, let us not forget that we all were created by God and He owns us. And so, the people whom God identifies as blessed, based on His words written in the Bible, are the ones who are truly blessed. This is how the Bible identifies who are blessed, in Revelation 14:13 (Goodspeed translation): “Blessed are the dead who from this time forth die as Christians!” Therefore, for a person to be among the blessed ones, he must be a Christian and remain as such until his death. If a person became a follower of Christ for a while, yet was separated from Him and was no longer a Christian when he died, he cannot be considered as blessed.
However, just because a person says he is a Christian, it does not mean he really is a Christian. The apostles explained that a true Christian does what Christ tells him to do (First John 2:4, The Living Bible). One of Christ’s commands is to come into the fold (John 10:7 and 9, Revised English Bible). The fold or flock is the Church Of Christ, according to Acts 20:28 (Lamsa translation).Therefore, we, members of the Church Of Christ, are the true Christians today because we did what our Lord Jesus Christ told us to do. We are the ones whom the Bible identifies as blessed—as long as we remain as true Christians until death. Hence, let us never allow ourselves to be separated from the Church Of Christ.However, it is not enough that a person is inside the Church Of Christ for him to be blessed and be certain of salvationon the Second Advent of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Church Of Christ members who will be blessed on Judgment Day are the ones identified in Luke 12:38 and 40 (Contemporary English Version):
38Those servants are really fortunate if their master finds them ready, even though he comes late at night or early in the morning. 40So always be ready! You don’t know when the Son of Man will come.
Because we do not know when our Lord Jesus Christ will come, we should always be ready. According to Luke 21:36 and 34 (Amplified Bible), those who are always ready keep themselves awake, watch at all times, and pray. They also guard themselves so their hearts will not be weighed down by self-indulgence, drunkenness, and worldly cares or concerns with which many people are preoccupied. If we do not guard ourselves, we might end up in misfortune, instead of being blessed on the Second Advent of the Lord.
To those who were instructed to keep watch or were assigned specific tasks or duties, Christ said to them: “Stay at your post.” (Mark 13:32-36, The Message). Because all of us were given tasks or duties to fulfill, we should neither forsake nor be lazy in performing such duties in the Church. We should neither quit nor turn our backs on them. We should be found on the Lord’s return fulfilling our Church duties so we will be counted among the blessed.
James 5:11 (Today’s New International Version) also identifies as blessed those who persevere, like Job. He proved his perseverance by remaining loyal to God despite the severe trials that he had gone through. Almost instantly, his livelihood was depleted, his ten children all died at the same time, and he was stricken with painful boils from the sole of his feet to the top of his head. His wife even persecuted him. However, despite all those things, he held on to his faith in God.
We should follow the example of Job’s perseverance and loyalty. In that way, we will also be blessed and will pass the test no matter how heavy the trial that will come to us is. Let us firmly believe what is written in James 1:12 (Expanded Bible) that “after [we] have proved [our] faith [stood/endured/passed the test]” through perseverance, “God will reward [us] with life forever.”
That is why we are always reminded by Brother Eduardo Manalo to persevere and stand our ground in obeying God’s commands. We must do all that so we can remain as the blessed ones because what is at stake is the reward of receiving eternal life, which God has promised to us. It is assured in Psalm 106:3 (EXB) that:
Happy [Blessed] are those who do [keep; observe; guard] right [justice], who do what is fair [righteous] at all times.
Therefore, doing what is righteous and fair is not something that we should doonly when we feel like doing it or when it is convenient. Instead, let us continue upholding it at all times for us to remain being blessed.
Let us also firmly believe what is stated in Psalm 84:4 (Easy-to-Read Version) that “People living at Your temple are very fortunate.” The equivalent of living at the temple is always going to the house of worship to worship God. So, we should never forsake the worship service; instead, let us always be eager for it.
We may be poor and insignificant based on human standards—not rich in material possessions, not having much knowledge, no power or influence in society—however, if we are among God’s chosen servants who are dedicated to worshiping and praising Him, we are truly blessed. The Bible assures in Isaiah 30:18(AMP) that God Himself longs to be gracious to those who earnestly draw near to Him, and expect and look for His loving-kindness and companionship. That is what God feels towards us whenever we worship and ask Him our needs.
Hence, let us confide in God whatever problems we have. Let us firmly believe that He is eager to care for us, to help us, and to grant us the blessings that we need. Let us present to Him all our troubles, worries, hardships, and various problems. Let us ask Him to give us the strength that we need to uphold our God-given election until the end.
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED
BY BROTHER EDUARDO V. MANALO
WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY: OCTOBER 14/15, 2020
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ja6soo/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2020)",ja6soo,2020-10-12,"We are so blessed that our evm, the most important man has prepared us a lesson for today.
Lets all stand and pray.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ja6soo/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2020)",ja6soo,2020-10-12,"At least this time, there was a small bible story?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ja6soo/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2020)",ja6soo,2020-10-12,"Prepared? Yeah right ☺️ More like cut and paste but same shyt over and over and over (value your membership, always attend the worship service, and GIVE money money money because it makes God happy). And when God is happy, He will open the gates of the manalo heaven. 🙄 Same regurgitated bullshyt.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ja6soo/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2020)",ja6soo,2020-10-12,Or not !!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ja6soo/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2020)",jc3inv,2020-10-15,"
“For us to always experience that in our lives as members of the Church Of Christ, let us promise God what His early servants also promised, as stated in Ephesians 3:21 and 20 (TLA): 21All who belong to the church of Christ, we should praise him forever. ... 20God has the power to do much more than we ask. We can’t even imagine what God can do to help us with his power!*”
I’d like to add a few things:
First off, this verse is read out of order, and second, WHERE DID THEY GET CHURCH OF CHRIST?
I’m going to need everyone to head over to biblegateway.com, and FIND church of Christ for that verse, because it clearly does not say that.
And what in the hell is this TLA translation?
“21 Todos los que pertenecemos a la iglesia de Cristo, debemos alabarlo por siempre. Amén.”
Is that Spanish? Did they just use a Spanish verse, that THEY translated to English, to fool us? This is during an English worship service, mind you.
And lastly, I noticed ministers aren’t openly stating the Bible versions anymore. Wonder why 🤔🤷🏽♀️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jc3inv/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2020)",jc3inv,2020-10-15,Same shit !!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jc3inv/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2020)",jc3inv,2020-10-15,As long as I'm a member I'll be saved!! It doesn't matter that I don't understand the Bible and that I've committed any terrible sins because I'll be saved as long as I'm in the church!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jc3inv/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2020)",jc3inv,2020-10-15,"Acts 20:28 got rolled out again, must be a world record 5 times in a row !!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jc3inv/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2020)",jc3inv,2020-10-15,"EVERYONE NEEDS THE CHURCH OF CHRIST TO BE SAVED
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED
BY BROTHER RANDY L. WEIR
SATURDAY/SUNDAY: OCTOBER 17/18, 2020
Many people assume that just because they believe in God and in Christ, or have accepted Christ as their personal Savior, they are already assured of salvation. So, they refuse to believe that membership in the Church Of Christ is necessary in serving and worshiping God and in receiving salvation.
The Church established by Christ is very important for man to receive salvation because, as taught in Ephesians 3:21 (The Living Bible),the Church is God's master plan of salvation. That Church is the “Church Of Christ”*(Ephesians 3:21 Traducción en Lenguaje Actual).
According to Ephesians 1:9 (New International Reader's Version) and 10 (New King James Version), God's plan is for all to be gathered together as one in Christ. That will be fulfilled when people become members of the body of Christ or the Church Of Christ (First Corinthians 12:27 and 12 Weymouth New Testament).
People should join the Church because it is what the Lord Jesus Christ will save. It was made certain in Ephesians 5:23 (TLB) that: “He gave His very life to take care of it and be its Savior! ”The apostles testified that the Church Of Christ is the one for which Christ gave His life (Acts 20:28 Lamsa Translation).
Thus, anyone who truly wants to be saved must accept and believe the teaching of the Bible that God has a master plan of salvation. To benefit from that plan, one needs to become a member of the Church Of Christ.
One further proof that God wants everyone to be saved is taught by Apostle Paul in Colossians 1:13-14 (New English Translation) that God transfers people from darkness into the kingdom of His Son, Jesus Christ. It is where “redemption, the forgiveness of sins” are found. The Church Of Christ is the one redeemed or purchased by Christ's blood.
It is very important to be redeemed and forgiven of sins through Christ's blood because it is stated in Hebrews 9:14 (Easy-to-Read Version),“His blood will make us pure ... so that we can worship (serve) the living God.”
Hence, because Christ redeemed the Church Of Christ, its members have received the right to render the true service and worship to the Lord God. Because of sin, people have lost that inherent right, and they were placed under the judgment of God—punishment on Judgment Day. But, by being a member of the Church Of Christ, man will be able to obtain the right to worship God and the hope to be saved from the impending punishment. Thanks be to God for we are now members of the Church Of Christ. Let us love and cherish our Church membership and always worship God.In Psalm 31:19-20 (The Message), the Bible guarantees that God has a stack of blessings piled up for those who worship Him. We need that especially now that life in this world is filled with many hardships, trials, worries, and troubles. If we dedicate ourselves to the true worship of God, we can hope for His help and blessings. It is stated in Psalm 34:9 (MSG): Worship God if you want the best; worship opens doors to all his goodness.
And so, the strict instruction to us in Hebrews 10:25 (Contemporary English Version) is that we must not get out “of the habit of meeting for worship.”
Thus, let us not forsake our worship services whatever trials and problems we are going through. God gave us the right to worship Him; hence, let us value and be devoted to fulfilling it. Let us always render the true worship to God so we can always please Him. If there are some who are forsaking the worship service, let us remind and encourage them to be devoted to this duty and right of ours.
We should never give up or forsake our worship service because according to First Corinthians 14:26 (ERV), it is by being devoted to our meeting together to worship God that we grow stronger in faith. Let us firmly believe what is stated in First Peter 1:5 & 9 (ERV):
5God’s power protects you through your faith, and it keeps you safe until your salvation comes. That salvation is ready to be given to you at the end of time.
9Your faith has a goal. And you are receiving that goal—your salvation.
So, if we are going through trials and difficulties, we should all the more continue worshiping God for us to remain strong in the true faith and be protected by His power.
For us to always experience that in our lives as members of the Church Of Christ, let us promise God what His early servants also promised, as stated in Ephesians 3:21 and 20 (TLA):
21All who belong to the church of Christ, we should praise him forever. ...
20God has the power to do much more than we ask. We can’t even imagine what God can do to help us with his power!*
We are so blessed because God has made us understand the importance of the Church Of Christ. We should also share that truth to our fellowmen. Let us help out and participate in the work of propagation so more people will also understand and firmly believe that they need the Church Of Christ to be saved.
And, on our part as members of the Church Of Christ, let us treasure and hold on to our Church membership whatever troubles and problems we encounter in life. With God’s help, we can surely overcome all hindrances until we receive the promised salvation.
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED
BY BROTHER RANDY L. WEIR
SATURDAY/SUNDAY: OCTOBER 17/18, 2020",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jc3inv/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2020)",jc3inv,2020-10-15,"If you repeat the same lies enough times, you still start to believe them.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jc3inv/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2020)",jc3inv,2020-10-15,Good idea fact checking these verses. I also started to notice that they're skipping over stating Bible versions.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jc3inv/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2020)",jc3inv,2020-10-15,"Wow really? That's a new one. In this case, maybe they'll finally have some diversity among the Lamsa use. Maybe the INC can finally compile their own Bible using all their favorite translations.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jc3inv/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2020)",jc3inv,2020-10-15,You mean same shit different day HAHA,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jc3inv/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2020)",jc3inv,2020-10-15,And more to come.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jc3inv/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2020)",jc3inv,2020-10-15,"Actually look up the original Greek. The word used can mean God or Christ. And since you want to cite lamsa, read the entire lamsa new testament. It says church of god in several other places. Sadly it is obvious that you are posting here because you want out of this cult. Otherwise you would use your own words instead of parroting the words of the cult",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jc3inv/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2020)",jc3inv,2020-10-15,These INCults indeed live up to the legacy of the Nazi Propagandist **Joseph Goebbels**!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jc3inv/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2020)",jc3inv,2020-10-15,"Agreed. I suspect most translate to to church and in Christ Jesus.
No point bringing it up with OWE. They will just answer another question. Or say the bible is a complicated read. But I say this is from the ERV which does make it an easy read.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jc3inv/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2020)",jc3inv,2020-10-15,"Im consciously out of this incult. Only my name is part of the record, for familys sake",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jc3inv/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2020)",jc3inv,2020-10-15,"on a lighter note, Happy Cake Day, u/anggelwinsantos (a.k.a. Member Number 11) ;)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jc3inv/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,"The hymn lineup (with personal comments):
* Officers' prayer: 274 (fairly nondescript prayer hymn)
* 302 (seems more like a showtune with all the high notes for the sopranos)
* 139 (pretty good but would be better if the submission/obedience lyrics were tweaked)
* 267 (Decent hymn, but...can this one go back to the old lyrics? Please with 10,000 lbs. of sugar on top?)
* 100 (Again, old lyrics, please?)
* 34 (Surely the old lyrics still exist somewhere, right?)
* Before text: 130 (The lyric, ""Don't ever be ashamed,"" always gets to me; if we weren't ashamed, would this sub have >6k subscribers? Also seems rather ""showtune-like."")
* Offering: 122 (Another one that seems like a showtune, with stanzas 2 & 3 flaunting the ""success"" of the church and the refrain making offering seem like anything but freewill)
* Recessional: 290 (This showtune paints the world in a negative light \[surprise surprise\] (verses 1 & 2), with the obligatory parts about submission & obedience (refrain) and duty (verse 3).)
I won't attend the WS until Thursday evening in my region (basically Friday already for much of the world). However, surely I can already guess based on the administration's favorite topic for the past several years.
EDIT: add'l thought on 139",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,"OWS password is minsk
Must be going through all locations",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,Am hopefully that I won't be disappointed like last time and every other time prior.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,Love 139. Sol sol re do do.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,"hymns = a brainwashing tool they use for the mentally weak.
dont forget that, we were all victims of it",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,"139 is pretty good. I do like the instrumentals. Of course the music department would put lyrics about submission and obedience, but at least it's not a hymn praising the administration. As I mentioned with some of the other hymns, I wonder what the old lyrics to 139 were.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,"True. Many of them used to be nice before they were changed to stuff like, “I will remain true in my duty,” “I will never leave the church,” or “I will always obey the administration.” Even the ones that aren’t...they say if you repeat something enough times, you’ll start to believe it",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,Used to be an offertory hymn,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,"they have always been a brainwashing tool. think way beyond the way you are thinking now, get rid of the emotional attachment, think rationally.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,Lol I wouldn’t have guessed. Did it have the same melody or was it changed?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,"The old tune is more upbeat, hence offertory hymn. Unison for the first line of chorus then SATB for the rest. The new melody is better.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,My favorite is 23. Agree the old 267 was much better lyric-wise. The current 139 was introduced in 2015. Yes it is not a bad sounding tune. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqy5s95BBEc&t=0s,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,"The old 23? I heard that tune in an earth/nature show. Neutral on the new 23, I don't like songs not starting in do or the movable do equivalent.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,"Even though I like 23, I’m now dying to know what it used to sound like...though I could say the same for basically every hymn at this point.
ADDENDUM: On the topic of (movable) do, I do prefer starting on do as well for the sake of following along. Since I am a bass, I also am very used to ending on do as well since it makes the hymn feel “complete.”",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,"Try getting a copy from old organists (pre 1992). If memory serves me right, it is 6/8 time signature. Just chords on F clef on most chorus, making it a lil upbeat.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,"Thank you! I will see who can pull some strings for me, LOL. I do like the 6/8 time hymns (112; 191; 256; 493, just to name a few).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,Never liked it. Feels like am waltzing,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2020)",jeis6u,2020-10-19,"I take it you must especially hate hymn 50 (the oh-so-popular “Be Ever True” hymn), not just for the waltz-y circus-like tune in 6/8, but also for the lyrics (“be ever true”...“always obey”).
Tangent: Hymn 12 (a hymn that, despite formerly getting played frequently, hasn’t been played recently) is in a similar time signature of 6/4 and, lyrics aside, sounds like carnival music (and sorta waltz-y now that I think about it and now that you mention waltzing) to me, even back when I was just starting my bible studies.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jeis6u/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"***Small update:*** *I'm now forced to attend* ***physical*** *WS since last Mid-Week. (Oct. 21/22). I'm no longer planning to write out what I used to write (a list of Bible verses, etc etc), as it might be suspicious since social distancing rules are in place, thus making me easily seen.*
It was a Pay-Per-View. 🥱🥱🥱
It was something along the lines of ""If you have doubts against God, you'll be cursed"". I remember how The Beloved mentioned verses about Elijah and the widow, and the verses where the Israelites doubted God, ""complained"" and God cursed them.
Basically: Doubt bad. I'm not sure which Seven Deadly Themes I noticed.
OH, and more shitting of the outside world. AAAND insensitivity.
""Oh, the people outside INC are so stressed that they end up committing suicide or doing eEeEEVIl DeEds!""
""*Uso ang kaligaligan""* (""troubles are trending"" or some shit like that)
# HELLO???? TROUBLES, ANXIETY AND MENTAL ISSUES ARE NOT FUCKING ""HIP, TRENDY AND QUIRKY"". IT'S A FUCKING SERIOUS * P R O B L E M *, AND YOUR ASS IS HERE USING A RELIGIOUS ENTITY TO SAVE YOUR ASS.
I understand that some people use religion to have hope in something, and that is 100% understandable and fine by me. **But this? This is straight-up WRONG.** *(Don't forget the fact that INC loves to bible-thump, but with their twisted context and MONEYYYYY).*
Anyway... yeah. That's all I can say. More boring and insensitive shit from The Beloved.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"(Fair Use) Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research
Reference: HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED BY
BROTHER RANDY L. WEIR
SATURDAY/SUNDAY: OCTOBER 24/25, 2020
HELPING IN THE WORK OF PROPAGATION IS A WORK CONCERNING SALVATION; THUS, IT MUST BE GIVEN IMPORTANCE
It is the great desire of the Church Administration for all members of the Church Of Christ to be saved from the wrath of God on Judgment Day. For that to happen, the Church Administration leads and encourages us to participate in the activities of the Church because all those activities are for the fulfillment of God’s will to strengthen our faith so we will put all our hope on the grace that will be ours.
One of the activities that we should participate in is the work of evangelism or sharing our faith. We are always being encouraged by the Church Administration to be active in this work because through it, we proclaim the Good News of God’s salvation, according to Psalm 40:9-10. Thus, it is of utmost importance that we participate in the work of propagation because it is a work concerning salvation.
God’s salvation was revealed to us. According to Romans 5:8-9, although we were sinners, God demonstrated His love toward us when He sent Christ who died for us. We, members of the Church Of Christ, were redeemed by the blood of Christ, according to Acts 20:28 (Lamsa translation), so “we shall be saved from wrath through Him.”
It is only proper that we give importance to the grace of salvation that we received from God, whatever happens. We must not keep to ourselves or hide God’s righteousness and truth; instead, we must proclaim His salvation. Let us share it with our fellowmen for them also to be saved from the wrath of God on Judgment Day.
So, let us fully participate in the propagation of the words of God. This is one of the truths that the Church Administration teaches us—the truth that is “based on the hope for eternal life,” according to Titus 1:1-2 (Good News Bible). Let us continue to obey and submit to our Executive Minister, Brother Eduardo Manalo because what he teaches is for our salvation on Judgment Day. When we share the true gospel to our fellowmen, we strengthen our hope of receiving the eternal life.
The apostles attest that those who help in the work of propagation are assured of receiving salvation on Judgment Day. According to Philippians 4:3, their names are written in the Book of Life. Therefore, it is not only those whom we convinced to join the Church and remained therein who are certain of salvation. We, who helped in the propagation of God’s words, also have such an assurance. So, we are not at the losing end if we participate in the Church’s work of propagation, even if we have to sacrifice and endure in doing so. That is what the Church Administration always reminds us.
The Church Administration has a holy purpose in their endeavors, which is shared as well by all Church officers. It says in Ephesians 4:11-12 (Norlie’s Simplified New Testament), “The common object of their labor was to bring the Christians maturity, to prepare them for Christian service and the building up of the Church of Christ.” Hence, we should never get tired of uniting with and participating in all the activities that the Church Administration launches.
We will be able to participate in the work of salvation if we have compassion or love for our fellowmen, according to Jude 1:22-23 (King James Version). Therefore, we are able to fulfill the important task: to “others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire.” Because Judgment Day is truly fast approaching, we should not disregard the work of sharing our faith; instead, we should zealously and actively participate in it for others to be saved.
Whenever we share our faith with others, we must treat each person kindly, according to Jude 1:22 (Last Days Bible). Because not all people are the same, we must approach people in different ways that are appropriate, with gentleness, compassion, and kindness. To be effective in proclaiming the truth that saves, according to Romans 12:11 and 13 (New English Translation), let us always show that we are zealous about our faith. We should always be enthusiastic as we serve the Lord. Let us also “pursue hospitality.” Let us warmly welcome people to our homes for Bible study and group prayer meetings, and to our worship services, evangelical missions, and other Church activities.
Through our voluntary offerings, we can also show a “genuine act of service” to the “commitment to spread the Good News of Christ,” according to Second Corinthians 9:7 (New International Reader’s Version) and 12-13 (God’s Word). Through our generosity in our voluntary offerings, we support our work of propagation through radio and TV, the Church’s websites, the Pasugo: God’s Message, and the sending of ministers and ministerial workers to different parts of the world to lead in the propagation of the gospel.
It is very important to labor in the works of the Lord. Hence, according to Isaiah 57:10 (International Children’s Bible), let us work hard and never give up or quit. Let us also be prayerful and trust in God. In doing so, we can find renewed strength to continue and to never stop in the activities that bring salvation to many people.
When we do that, we will be assured of a blessed reward. This is the testimony in Galatians 6:9 (Easy-to-Read-Version): We must not get tired of doing good. We will receive our harvest of eternal life at the right time. We must not give up.
Thus, may all of us actively participate in the work of propagation. By doing so, not only do we help our fellowmen in receiving salvation but also we strengthen our hope in attaining the promised eternal life.
In our prayers to God, let us implore Him to give us the strength to obey His commands and to direct us to those whom we can invite to know His will. May more people receive the right to serve Him and be included in the work of salvation.
Before we pray, we will sing
“I Am A Member Of The Church Of Christ”
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED BY
BROTHER RANDY L. WEIR
SATURDAY/SUNDAY: OCTOBER 24/25, 2020",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"PPV, so i need to pick a movie of 2hours 😅",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"Tuloy Tally: 45 (approx., see below)
Prayer Lengths (Approx.):
* Officers' Opening Prayer: 4 - 5 min (I had to restart the meeting because WebEx stopped responding around 3.5 min into the prayer)
* Opening Prayer: 4:57
* Closing Prayer: 10:07
* Officers' Closing Prayer: 1:16
Outline of PPV:
* As predictable, EVM starts his ""sermon"" by listing various milestones and anniversaries of some of the locales in the Philippines
* Isaiah 48:18, Good News Bible (Oddly enough, EVM himself read this one for reasons I don't know)
* Philippians 4:12-13
* EVM mentions propagation here
* Romans 8:35
* II Corinthians 12:9-10, Easy to Read
* Ephesians 5:25
* Ephesians 4:11-12 (The Beloved literally spent a good 15 seconds emphasizing that ""OnE lEsS tHaN fIvE iS fOuR,"" as if to speak with preschoolers or kindergarteners)
* Psalms 78:19-22
* Isaiah 50:2-3
* I Kings 17:8-16
* Here EVM mentions that other religions failed to prepare for the pandemic while flaunting that INC supposedly prepared by preparing the worship service from home
* Here EVM claims obeying the messengers of God is important
* II Thessalonians 1:4-5
* EVM calls the world hopeless
* Hebrews 10:35-36
* Plug for offerings despite worldwide pandemic because apparently he and his helpers don't have enough money
* Colossians 2:7, 6 (Apparently if you're going to cherry-pick verses, you might as well shuffle them, as well)
* Colossians 1:11, Amplified
* Thankfully the benediction segued directly into the recessional hymn.
* Total sermon length from officers' prayer to officers' prayer was 1 hour, 32 minutes. ""Short"" for a PPV service, I suppose, but still could be trimmed considerably.
I apologize for any parts of my outline that are incomplete. I was not 100% attentive, and I didn't want to draw unwanted attention from my parents or the person who joined the household WS. As such, the ""Tuloy Tally"" might be higher. Feel free to reply with any suggestions to improve future WS outlines.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"I used to wish before that WS would be like the movies. When preaching is over and credits are shown, you can just stand and leave to avoid the wailing, prayers and praises for Ed. But the thought of an overseer pestering me made me stay put.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"EVM mentioned how the detractors were complaining that the lessons are just about offering and basically goes on to say that the giving of offering is in the Bible so why shouldn't they be teaching us that.
True, there are verses where they have offering examples, but the entire Bible isn't made up of only verses telling you to attend worship service and to give offering. There's more to the Bible than just those topics.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,Brothers and sisters lets stand and pray,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,Is this the PPV ?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,when its PPV does the members give more since its a 'special' WS?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"Yet another verse that was chosen from some obscure bible(?) just to fit their agenda:
“The common object of their labor was to bring the Christians maturity, to prepare them for Christian service and the building up of the Church of Christ..” (Ephesians 4:12 Norlie's Simplified New Testament)
None of the other versions state Church of Christ.
Here’s what it SHOULD read:
Ephesians 4:11-12
King James Version
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"Also, i did hear that there will be an English live translation of this service",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,OmyGod the 10 mins prayer... killed me,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,They tell us not to believe in or use forums online... meanwhile.... he proved a point using a forum...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"Nothing new per usual. SOSDD.
Lulz at the great leader claiming that the INCult prepared for home-based brainwashing services. Truth is the INCult explicitly instructed sheeple to continue attending services at INCult churches through backchannel social media messages. It was only after threats of penalties from the government that the INCult was forced to comply.
GTFO you freeloading clown. lol
How delusional is this idiot? I'd like to have what he's having, seems to be top shelf stuff.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"lol this 'tuloy' count is hilarious, we need to compile this into a spreadsheet.
and jesus christ, a 10 minute closing prayer?? Insanity",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"Well, in that case, I hear him and I understand that I should give offerings. So I don't need to attend anymore. How about I just send them a five dollar check every Sunday and I can sit all of them out. Heck, might be worth twenty bucks a month to not attend.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"Here is the prayer. Just remember to stretch out each syllable for at least 15 seconds and cry some while you are at it. Any prayer that is not 5 minutes longer than it needs to be will not be accepted by God or the executive minister.
Oh god, please bless the Administration. Watch over them. Protect them from harm. For you know they love us and watch over us and love us and protect us and blah blah blah. And how they love us and protect us and watch over us blah blah blah. And if they weren't around to love us and protect us and watch over us, we would be such trouble. For without them loving us, protecting us, watching over us we would have no one to love us, protect us, and watch over us blah blah blah. And without the loving us protecting us, watching over us, we would be doomed for the lake of fire because we don't have anyone to love us, protect us, and watch over us. And oh how they labor, suffering by riding around in limo's and chartered jets when they have to leave the luxury houses the poor humble members provided them with, so they can love us, watch over us, protect us etc....",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"Yes, said my friend. Just tally how many times he says ""Tuloy"" to keep you awake.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"Unfortunately yes. Not sure if any region is lucky enough to escape it. Depending on if I can get away with it, I just might time each prayer. Maybe if I attend an “English prayer” PPV, I can take it a step further and see how much time each prayer spends putting Mr. Manalo on a pedestal compared to how much time Christ gets, if He even gets any these days",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"I am not attending as a stand, as our communist minister will not baptize me. Don't worry it is only so my wife can be properly welcomed. As soon as I am baptized i'm leaving !!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,Wow! what a way to twist to tangle even more,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,">Truth is the INCult explicitly instructed sheeple to continue attending services at INCult churches through backchannel social media messages.
Lmao I once posted something about this at r/Philippines and it blew up. OWE's can do nothing but downvote.
>How delusional is this idiot? I'd like to have what he's having, seems to be top shelf stuff.
Same, man.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"That's great to have 'tuloy' count.
10 minute prayer is just borderline evil. What was he praying? Crying for more money?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"Note sure about that one, don't forget that you'll most likely also need to pay up/ahead for all those ""local"", ""district"", ""special"", ""historic"", ""worldwide"", ""aid to humanity"", ""donations"" type categories of offerings.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"Ababasol, please protect our most beloved executive minister, the eduardo v. manalo so many more souls will be saved.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"Don’t forget: If praying to Christ (not required, but only done for appearance’s sake), don’t do it for more than 15 seconds. The less time our Lord & Savior gets, the more time the Beloved Leader gets! One last tip: If the Beloved Leader isn’t getting at least 50% of the total prayer time, he’ll reject it and make you do it again mwhahahaha!
EDIT: a word",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,christ on a fucking crutch you can pass off as an actual INC minister with this lmao,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,This prayer is much more interesting than the regular prayers that I would actually listen to it more attentively!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"So it was another EVM PPV? ok, noted.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"I’m not fluent in Tagalog, but I have a hunch the 10 minute prayer went something like:
Father...dear Father...almighty Father in Heaven...please...PLEASE [loud wailing among the OWEs]...bless our beloved leader...he works so tirelessly...he loves Your nation so much, dear God...and we love him so much, as well...
(4 minutes later)
Father...most kind and merciful Father...please also bless our executive minister’s family (but not those he expelled)...his primary helpers...his house...his airbus...his clothes...his pets...his hair...his pets’ hair...the very ground upon which the beloved walks...
...ok, I got carried away, but watch the prayers get more and more like this in the not-so-distant future",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,Amazing how much I have learned even though I never listen. :),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,This weekend. Nothing to look forward to hehe,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,I don’t know whether I’d be amused in a “they can’t be this obvious” kind of way by this potential prayer or disappointed in a “they can be that obvious” kind of way.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2020)",jggehz,2020-10-22,"Oh ok, this coming weekend, got it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 27 - Oct 29, 2020)",jiuvuq,2020-10-26,"You can tell where the church is having issues because they we're adament about these two points:
1. Told us not to believe the lies of the internet/detractors.
2. Kadiwa(sp?) Don't date non members.
Reminds of before when they emphasized the kadiwa/benhi to attend all the bible studies so they could understand better.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jiuvuq/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_27_oct_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 27 - Oct 29, 2020)",jiuvuq,2020-10-26,Fyi. The upcoming midweek and weekend lessons are prepared by the lord evm. It is his bday on oct31. The same bible verses.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jiuvuq/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_27_oct_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 27 - Oct 29, 2020)",jiuvuq,2020-10-26,"I recall them having a recent kadiwa activity which seemed like a seminar to basically instruct kadiwa sheeple on ""how to date"". Oh geez. lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jiuvuq/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_27_oct_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 27 - Oct 29, 2020)",jiuvuq,2020-10-26,">Told us not to believe the lies of the internet/detractors.
Nice, so this was emphasized in the lesson?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jiuvuq/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_27_oct_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 27 - Oct 29, 2020)",jiuvuq,2020-10-26,"Did they mention anything of a special offering for his birthday??? Just curious, because they had one for his 11 years of narcissistic leadership",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jiuvuq/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_27_oct_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 27 - Oct 29, 2020)",jiuvuq,2020-10-26,Probably the specific minister because he tends to go on his own tangents but it was one of his shouting moments.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jiuvuq/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_27_oct_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 27 - Oct 29, 2020)",jiuvuq,2020-10-26,All the members are going to dress up in costumes and give each other candy. lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jiuvuq/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_27_oct_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 27 - Oct 29, 2020)",jiuvuq,2020-10-26,"This also just came to mind. Usually, everyone is made aware of the most important person in the world's birthday.
I mean the minions practically hold sheeple hostage just to get a ""Happy Birthday Po"", ""We Love You, Po"" greeting on video for the most important person in the world.
This time around, pretty quiet. Interesting... very interesting.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jiuvuq/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_27_oct_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 27 - Oct 29, 2020)",jiuvuq,2020-10-26,Everyone should be entitled to research and uncover truths themselves. You should be able to look into the religion yourself and be able to freely question it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jiuvuq/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_27_oct_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 27 - Oct 29, 2020)",jiuvuq,2020-10-26,"Decided to check my cousins fb page. Seems like they have been making greetings on yt. Lol the force is still strong among these nimrods . The deafening PO is so cringe.
https://youtu.be/HM7YZkquWKw",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jiuvuq/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_27_oct_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,Acts 20:28 Record - 8 lessons in a row,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,These two lessons are so tiring to hear,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,They seriously need to come up with new material.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,There was actual potential in this lesson and they blew it and went with the normal have to be in the church trash. It started with following what christ commands us to do to so that we can get to heaven. Instead of a deep dive of ALL the things we need to do like being a good person they focused hard on having to in the church of christ using bullshit cherry picked verses.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,"(Fair Use) Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research.
reference:
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED
BY BROTHER EDUARDO V. MANALOWEDNESDAY/THURSDAY: OCTOBER 28/29, 2020
WHAT WE MUST HOLD ON FIRMLY TO SO AS TO REMAIN IN OUR DIVINE ELECTION
There are many things and events that people are experiencing that cause some to weaken in the faith, grow cold in their love for God, or lose hope. There are those who did not remain in their divine election and were separated from the Church. That should not happen to us. Let us never forget that our Lord Jesus Christ assures that those who remain until the end are the ones who will be saved.
For us to remain until the end, we must hold firmly to the gospel preached to us by the Messenger of God and the Administration in the Church. According to First Corinthians 15:1-2 (Contemporary English Version), “You will be saved by this message, if you hold firmly to it.” If we do not hold onto it, our faith will be for nothing and will not help us to be saved.
However, it is not enough to merely say that we firmly believe and are holding on to the teachings. According to Philippians 4:9 (Last Days Bible), “You must also continue to put into practice all you have learned and received.” We should do this not just once or just when we want to. It should be a continuous practice. Therefore, we should never stop fulfilling the teachings taught to us. We are aware what those teachings are: always worship God and never forsake our congregational worship service; help out in the work of propagation by inviting guests to listen during our evangelical missions; do not forget the giving of offerings that is pleasing to God; uphold the love for brotherhood; obey and submit to the one who administers the Church; fulfill the complete renewal of life; and avoid all evil deeds. Let us obey those teachings.
What the Lord Jesus Christ requires of us is careful obedience to God’s commands. In John 14:15 (LDB), He said that those who truly love Him will do what He tells them to do, and not do what He tells them not to do. Let us not distort what Christ said, like what those who do not truly love Him do.
Christ said that those who enter into the fold or Church Of Christ will be saved, based on John 10:9 and 16 (Revised English Bible) and Acts 20:28 (Lamsa translation). But others refuse to do that because they say that joining the Church is not needed for one to be saved. On the other hand, what Christ forbade in Matthew 23:9—that no one should call any human being on earth “Father,” for there is only one Father in heaven, God, Who is the Father of souls—is what others are doing. Such prohibition of Christ is being violated in the religion whose priests are called “Father.”
In the Church, we are careful in obeying the teachings of God because what is at stake when obeying or fulfilling them is our salvation. Let us imitate how Abraham obeyed without reservation what God told him to do. According to Hebrews 11:8(Easy-to-Read Version), although he had no idea where the land God promised to give him was, Abraham still followed God’s command to go there—no ifs and buts, no questioning the command, no dissent or reservation, “because he had faith.” Therefore, those who will be able to obey God’s commands without dissent or reservation are the ones who have the same kind of faith that Abraham had. Abraham’s faith was so great that he decided to live on the basis of what God said He would do, according to Romans 4:18-21 (The Message). He entrusted his life to God. As proof, when God promised him that he would have a big family, he did not doubt even though he was already too old and his wife Sarah was also old and infertile. That goes against what many commonly expect: that a husband and wife who are in such a condition would never have a child. But Abraham countered that expectation by placing his hope in God’s power and what He can do. Abraham was fully convinced that what was promised to him would be fulfilled.
We were also promised by God not just with salvation on Judgment Day but also with blessings in this life. Thus, when we are in dire situations that are seemingly impossible for us to overcome, we should not lose hope. Let us trust that God will fulfill His promise to us. Let us put our hope in the grace that will be ours.
According to Colossians 1:23 (The Living Bible), we should fully and firmly believe the truth proclaimed to us by the Good News or the gospel—that Christ died for those whom He will save. They are the ones who received the forgiveness of sins when they were purchased by His blood or the members of the Church Of Christ, according to Acts 20:28 (Lamsa). We should never shift from trusting that we will be saved by our Lord Jesus Christ.
Thus, no matter what happens, let us firmly hold on to that we are assured of salvation inside the Church Of Christ only. We should never exchange our membership in the Church Of Christ for anything or anyone in this world. We should never allow ourselves to be parted from the Church.
In upholding our divine election, we will experience difficulties and hardships. For us not to be moved from our trust and resolve, and to benefit from the promises and blessings of God, this is stated in Psalm 34:8 (TLB): Oh, put God to the test and see how kind he is! See for yourself the way his mercies shower down on all who trust in him.
We have already proven many times in our life how kind God really is. For us to experience His mercy and blessings, we should trust in Him. We can express that by praying, according to Psalm 34:15 and 17 and 19 (ERV). The ones whose prayers will be heard and who will be protected by God are the people who do what is right. Thus, it is very important that we are always on the side of righteousness and stay away from evil. Let us fulfill what Brother Eduardo Manalo always reminds us to be prayerful to God. Let us ask for His help.
When we are worshiping God, praising His Name, and praying to Him, we can be sure that He will answer us, as written in Psalm 138:2-3 and 7 (Amplified Bible). He will strengthen our inner self, revive us, and save us against our enemies. Let us make use of this opportunity to bring to Him all our needs and ask for the solution to all our problems. Let us also plead with Him as what is written in Psalms85:6-7 (TLB):6Oh, revive us! Then your people can rejoice in you again. 7Pour out your love and kindness on us, Lord, and grant us your salvation.
If, because of the hardships and troubles, our hearts faint and grow weak, let us ask God to revive us. If we are feeling sad and grieving, may He make us glad and allow us to rejoice once again. If we are lacking in our needs, may He pour out to us His love and kindness. And if our life is being threatened whether by evil-minded people or by a deadly disease, may He grant us His salvation.
God is ready to grant us the solution to whatever trial and problem we confide in Him. Let us promise to Him that we will never stop from worshiping and serving Him.
No matter what happens in our life, we will hold on firmly to the teachings that we received and will live by them until we finish our race.
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BY BROTHER EDUARDO V. MANALO WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY: OCTOBER 28/29, 2020",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,"(Fair Use) Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research
Reference:
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED
BY BROTHER EDUARDO V. MANALO SATURDAY/SUNDAY: OCTOBER 31/NOVEMBER 1, 2020
WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW THE ELECTION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM GOD TO BE WASTED
We received a great blessing when we became members of the Church Of Christ and have been included among the chosen of God. A person cannot just claim that he is one of the chosen of God. God is the One Who chooses and calls those whom He counts as His chosen. They are the ones who have been promised to receive the Holy Spirit, which is the proof that one will inherit God’s promises.
Based on Hebrews 3:14 (The Living Bible), the election received by the Christians who trust in God will not be wasted or become worthless “if we are faithful to the end” because “we will share in all that belongs to Christ.”
But, just because a person claims or says that he is a Christian, it does not mean that he is already a Christian. First John 2:4 (TLB)states: Someone may say, “I am a Christian; I am on my way to heaven; I belong to Christ.” But if he doesn’t do what Christ tells him to, he is a liar. The word Christian means a follower of Christ.
Therefore, one who refuses or does not obey the command of Christ is not a true Christian. One of Christ’s commands that true Christians obeyed and will lead to their receiving of salvation is what’s written in John 10:7 and 9 (Revised English Bible)—“come into the fold through (Christ).” The sheepfold or flock is the Church Of Christ, according to Acts 20:28 (Lamsa translation). Therefore, those who obeyed Christ’s command to enter through Him so as to come into the fold or flock that He purchased and be saved are the members of the Church Of Christ.
Therefore, we are the true Christians. We have come to understand this truth because God taught and made us understand it through His sending in these last days of Brother Felix Manalo. Even though he passed away, we continue to receive the words of God through the Executive Minister whom He placed in the Church. When we understood, firmly believed in, and obeyed those truths, we became members of the Church where the true Christians belong.
Based on Philippians 3:20-21 (New Living Translation), when the end comes, which is also when our Savior returns, He will take us with Him and will change our weak mortal bodies into a glorious one like His own.
That is the reason the Bible says that if we are faithful until the end, we will share in all that belongs to Christ. While we are eagerly waiting for that great day, Apostle James said, in James 5:7-8 (New Life Version), “Christian brothers, be willing to wait for the Lord to come again.”
Therefore, we must never forget about waiting for Christ’s return. We should not shift our attention to worldly things. Hence, according to Second Corinthians 4:18 and 16-17 (New Century Version), let us set our eyes, not on the things that we see, but on what we cannot see.
What we see here in this world are hardship, troubles, and problems. If we set our eyes on those things, then we might lose courage. Such things will last only a short time. On the other hand, the things we cannot see yet but have faith in and wait for will last forever.
Those are the eternal life that God promised us, being able to live in the Holy City, and the glorious life that we will experience there. Because the first-century Christians set their eyes on God’s promises, though their physical bodies became older and weaker, their spirit was made new every day. Let us also do the same so the troubles that we experience will not hinder us but even help us gain eternal glory. To be firm in our conviction and always set our hope on the eternal glory that we will inherit, we are taught in Second Peter 1:19-21 (TLB) to always remember that what the prophets said came true.
Isn’t it that the prophecy concerning the time and place of the Church’s emergence in these last days indeed was fulfilled or came true? And we are witnesses to the fulfilment of God’s promised help that was mentioned also in the prophecy. Those are proofs that this Church is of God. This Church is the one that will receive salvation and everlasting life. Let us not separate from the truth of the prophecies about this Church and, instead, follow it as a light shining into dark corners.
In First Corinthians 10:9-12 (The Message), the apostles also remind us to “be careful not to stir up discontent” so we will not end up like the ancient people of Israel. Because of discontent, they complained again and again about the hardships that they experienced. The Lord became so angry with them that He punished them.
The history of the Israelites was written in the Bible for us not to repeat their mistake that resulted in their divine election going to waste. We should not look back and desire again the sensual pleasures and the materialism of the world from which God has already removed us.
No one in the nation of God should be found complaining when experiencing hardship and heavy problems. Apostle Paul said, “Forget about self-confidence; [because] it’s useless. Cultivate God-confidence.” Thus, let us be prayerful. Let us trust that God can easily do even the things that people think are impossible. In Hebrews 12:15-16 (Last Days Bible) God instructs us to “always be continually diligent ... so that none of [us] fall short of receiving God’s wonderful, undeserved mercy.” Thus, it is evil to stop and draw back from the duties that God has given us.
We are also told to be careful of the poisonous teachings that would allow one to lead an unholy life. Thus, let us not listen to false preachers because that is what they teach—poisonous teachings that cause the corruption of people’s faith. Let us also be careful not to get involved in sexual sins. That’s why we are always reminded by our Executive Minister to fulfill the intensive renewal of life. Let us not imitate Esau who exchanged his inheritance rights as the oldest son for a single meal.
We should never exchange our inheritance rights as God’s children for the material things of this world. Let us never allow ourselves to waste our God-given election. Thus, let us ask Him in our prayer what is stated in Psalm 25:1-5 (Contemporary English Version): 1I offer you my heart, Lord God, 2and I trust you. Don’t make me ashamed or let enemies defeat me. 3Don’t disappoint any of your worshipers, but disappoint all deceitful liars. 4Show me your paths and teach me to follow; 5guide me by your truth and instruct me. You keep me safe, and I always trust you.
May God again strengthen our faith through of the power of the Holy Spirit, which He sends to us whenever we attend the worship service.
May He help us to uphold the election that we received from Him until the end of our life or until the Second Advent of our Lord Jesus Christ.
May no one among us be left behind in our journey; instead, may all of us be with God in the Holy City.
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED
BY BROTHER EDUARDO V. MANALO SATURDAY/SUNDAY: OCTOBER 31/NOVEMBER 1, 2020",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,I remember when they used to have lessons about why we don't celebrate Halloween.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,"It was very boring, and that is about all I can say.
One interesting side note, during the service, I caught my wife, (who is a dedicated member), scrolling thru facebook on her phone during the service. When I asked her about it, she got a little defensive, but admitted she was bored. I said no more, didn't want to gloat. But I count it as a silent win.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,"it’s always this format:
**INTRO** guys there’s always experience hardships problems pain, world is fucked, life is difficult.
**BODY** never forget your duty in the church, dont give up your faith, stay in the church, if you feel like giving up, call god for help, (acts 20:28 outta nowhere), uses an example of a servant of God who called for help and uses that as a comparison to us, Church Administration tells us to stay in the church, (throw in the special events outta nowhere to make the lesson long)
**ENDING** if you’re feeling in pain dont give up pray to god be glad we part of the church. PRAYER",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,Someone should tell them there are other verses in the Bible.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,"I could be wrong but I’m going to take a guess that the version of the Bible they used for this specific verse alone is...Lamsa? /s
They don’t say which version they use anymore (for any of the verses really) when they used to in regular services at least. I guess the members are expected to already know this verse or maybe they’re hiding it as much as possible. I don’t know.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,There were two services in a row here that they didn't use it. I was shocked but it was back again this weekend.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,"They can’t because to do so (such as using other verses in the Bible) would not support FYM’s doctrine. Therefore, the INCULT will continue to rehash-cut and paste same old bullshit over and over. I don’t know about the members, but crap like this would render me catotonic. It also shows how the brainwashed minds will continue to hold on to all these bull.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,They're really pumping it up a notch with the ass kissing.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,"Just to be real. The election they are talking about is INC membership election which does not equal being true children of God (Yahwah) and true followers of Yahshua (Jesus). Many INC members do no know what it really means how to be a true followers of Yahshua. They don't know much about the Bible except what the verses they memorized provided by ministers. The ministers have strict rules to abide on their norm regarding Bible doctrines based on their exclusive and limited book of 28 fundamental teachings of INC 1914. Their ministers are not Bible scholars especially their idol EVM. They would not debate with other religions regarding the ""Last Messenger"" topic.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,"Like I said, INC celebrates Halloween now, it's just called ""EVM's Birthday Greeting"" now.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,Open up with her. Probably the feeling to leave is mutual :(,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,"But then they'll say, ""Why shouldn't we teach these verses over and over, they're in the Bible.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,Correct,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2020)",jkqiqh,2020-10-29,Not a chance in he!! she will leave. To much family dedication/brainwashing. I don't think she even cares if they are right or wrong in their beliefs. Just can't go against the family,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jkqiqh/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 03 - Nov 05, 2020)",jn44sc,2020-11-02,"Myself and my wife are not attending due to ongoing issue around my ""baptism"". They are not providing us with the Webex details. More free time for us Wed Night / Sat Morning, plus the additional savings !!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jn44sc/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_03_nov_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 03 - Nov 05, 2020)",jn44sc,2020-11-02,"Please excuse all the tangents; I just would like to vent. You can skip all the parentheses if you’d like.
Two of the “hymns” (aka brainwashing songs...does God even accept these so-called hymns, especially the more poorly-written songs and/or tunes about the messenger/administration?) contain references to one’s duty: 137 (“Oh the duty You granted me/You still allow me, LORD, to keep”) & 112 (“And as I strive to fulfill my sacred duty/There are many hindrances that constantly test me/Help me, Lord ... that this duty I possess, I won’t forget”). Just from that (not to mention the sermons these past several years), I can already assume the “lesson” will involve one’s membership and duty (Ugh! Can’t they teach something else for a change?). Bonus points if Acts 20:28 Lamsa gets shoehorned as well.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jn44sc/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_03_nov_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 03 - Nov 05, 2020)",jn44sc,2020-11-02,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jn44sc/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_03_nov_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 03 - Nov 05, 2020)",jn44sc,2020-11-02,"What happened during your baptism? I witnessed one where the guy does not want to be dunked under water and the minister has to judo sweep him of his feet. It did not go well as the panicked guy hold on him for dear life and pulled him down with him. The shocked minister came up sputtering and coughing. In the end hilarious, funny, a comdey of errors was added to describe the 'sacred' occasion.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jn44sc/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_03_nov_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 03 - Nov 05, 2020)",jn44sc,2020-11-02,there is no biblical god. its all fabricated bullshit to move humanity from polytheism to monotheism,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jn44sc/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_03_nov_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 03 - Nov 05, 2020)",jn44sc,2020-11-02,"omgomg, I have this dope idea: Take a shot every time Acts 20:28 is used!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jn44sc/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_03_nov_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 03 - Nov 05, 2020)",jn44sc,2020-11-02,"Nope, we married before my baptism. The reason was Visa issues. I'm not a convert but Mrs. is. Yes I agree its been very difficult, but with the help of this forum, it has made it a bit easier.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jn44sc/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_03_nov_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 03 - Nov 05, 2020)",jn44sc,2020-11-02,"They have not baptized me at all.
The problem was that on the 8th or 9th probationers prayer (!) they suddenly turned round and said i was dressed inappropriately and they will not do it until I change. Stood up for myself and asked why is my minister (lets call him Brother U) bringing this up now, nearly at the end of the whole process. I didn't dress up for the lessons and nobody minded. Anyhoo, they can't do any now as UK in lock-down, and in reality shouldn't have done them as the C19 prevent any ""water ceremonies by immersion""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jn44sc/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_03_nov_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 03 - Nov 05, 2020)",jn44sc,2020-11-02,"You are correct, sir/madam. I couldn't have put it more directly to the point.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jn44sc/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_03_nov_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 03 - Nov 05, 2020)",jn44sc,2020-11-02,"Not good at 9am/8am for PPV) on a Saturday morning,",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jn44sc/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_03_nov_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 03 - Nov 05, 2020)",jn44sc,2020-11-02,Shows you how paranoid they are over little things and I'm sure you dressed up fairly okay. I am very sure you did not come in wearing rap gear or worse a mankini.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jn44sc/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_03_nov_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 03 - Nov 05, 2020)",jn44sc,2020-11-02,"Damn. Shot of coffee works too, minus the alcohol!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jn44sc/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_03_nov_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"Please allow me to rant:
During EVM WS we always logged off as soon as the recessional hymn started playing, but now, theyre forcing us to stay longer until the minister tells us we're done. We're not even officers but we are required to attend both opening and closing officers prayer. SMDH. This is too much. As if the long, redundant sermons are not enough.
They are even dictating us where to sit (ie not in the couch/sofa). They're not just brainwashing the brethren. They are controlling even their actions. last Thursday's WS is all about obeying ""the will of God"" without questioning, complaining and any reservations. It is so frustrating that you cant do anything.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"Because I attended a ""Full English"" service, I didn't get the ""Tuloy Tally.""
**Prayers**
* Officers' Opening Prayer - 3:48
* This prayer dedicated 47 seconds (roughly 21% of the prayer) to EVM...
* ...but only 19 seconds (8%) to Jesus Christ.
* Opening Prayer - 7:53
* EVM - 1:45 (22%)
* Jesus - :33 (7%)
* Post-Lesson Prayer - 9:29
* EVM - 2:05 (22%) NOTE: Take these figures with a grain of salt, because I kept dozing off from this point forward.
* Jesus- :28 (5%)
* Prayer after Ordination - 5:05
* EVM - :05 (1.7%) No prayer is complete without a quick plug of EVM!
* Jesus - :19 (6.3%)
* Officers' Closing Prayer - 1:40
* Another quick mention of EVM, but no mention of Jesus.
**Hymns**
* Officers' Prayer - 90
* 301 (""Praises to You, Our Almighty God!"")
* showtune-like hymn with a stanza dedicated to the ""prophecy"" of God's nation
* 394 (""Do Not Grieve the Spirit of the Lord"")
* obedience/submission hymn
* 437 (""To You, Lord Jesus, I Offer My Heart"")
* another submission/obedience ""hymn""; they added a descant/first soprano to make this hymn more showy
* 385 (""Father, May You Abide with Us"")
* Judging by the lyrics and the fact that it first came out around 2015, this hymn seems to be written to scorn the ""detractors"" of the faith.
* Before Text - 362 (""Listen and Put into Practice"")
* seems somewhat like a showtune, mentions ""those who have the right to proclaim the word of God"" as if any messenger/minister in the INC qualifies
* Recessional - 286
**Sermon**
* Surprise, surprise, the intro consists of milestone celebrations, the mention of upholding our services to God, and how the future will be difficult, and yadda, yadda...
* Deuteronomy 10:12-13, 21
* Nehemiah 9:21
* Exodus 13:21; 14:21-22; 16:4, 13-15
* Deuteronomy 12:11,13-14
* John 4:23
* 1 Chronicles 16:11
* Hebrews 10:25, New Jerusalem
* Repeat Heb. 10:25 in Translation for Translators
* Psalms 34:9 (It would not be a PPV if EVM had his reader re-read the first part of this verse multiple times.)
* Message
* Living Bible
* Expanded Bible
* Easy to Read
* EVM plugs devotional prayers and encourages/coerces worshipers to do it in the house of worship
* Psalms 138:2-3, 7:8 (EVM asks for another re-reading of the first part of the verse.)
* 2 Samuel 22:7
* When you’re greatly stressed, you experience depression. When you experience depression, you’re tempted to do evil. Don’t do evil. Worship God instead. Or at least that’s how EVM came across here.
* 2 Chronicles 20:9
* Psalms 145:18-20
* EVM asks those about to be ordained if they truly love the church, and conditions them never to leave the ministry, blah blah blah...
* Psalms 34:8, 4, 9 (Yes, Psalms 34:9 was read FIVE times by this point!)
* Lesson clocked in at \~52 minutes.
* After the closing prayer, an excerpt of the ordination was shown.
* The total WS length was 1 hour, 36 minutes from officers' prayer to officers' prayer, up slightly from the previous 1 hour, 32 minutes
* Of those, nearly 28 minutes were spent on prayers.
* Of that 28, about 5 were dedicated to EVM, or about 17% of the total praying time.
* But only 99 seconds, or roughly 6% of the praying time, was spent on Jesus Christ. Surprise surprise, ministers spend roughly 3x longer praying for EVM than for Christ.
EDITS: 2 Samuel 22:7 was also read (and re-read); afterward, EVM claims depression causes a person to do evil; corrected how much overall time EVM got over all 5 prayers",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"Sadly yes, another 120 mins of my life pissed away having to hear some idiot's musings. FML...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"Forget the Seven Deadly Themes. Forget the stuck up Webex WS schedules. Forget objectively going through the lessons and verses INC uses. All WS lessons (*including special services*, the cult actually used to prepare unique outlines for these occasions) nowadays can literally be divided into four parts. **NO EXCEPTIONS.**
1. The world is shit
2. God only helps his true servants
3. INC is the religion of these true servants.
4. Don't leave INC
You've been in one, you've been in all of them.
Addendum: hell, Central teaches stuff that directly contradict the bible and they get away with it because ""the bible teaches that we should unquestioningly obey"" lmao",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"Today, they ""quoted"" the same verse from four different bibles in order to bastardize the meaning. Let's see what happens if we did this to the beloved Acts 20:28...
**New International Version**
Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the **church of God**, which he bought with his own blood.
**Good News Translation**
So keep watch over yourselves and over all the flock which the Holy Spirit has placed in your care. Be shepherds of the **church of God**, which he made his own through the blood of his Son
**New Living Translation**
“So guard yourselves and God’s people. Feed and shepherd **God’s flock—his church**, purchased with his own blood—over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you as leaders.
**English Standard Version**
Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the **church of God**, which he obtained with his own blood.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,Is it His Royal Highness PPV BS ?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"Tuloy Tally: 35
Pakinggan niyo Tally: 18
Ulit Tally: 3
Ano pa Tally: Uncountable",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"I suggest to the mods to add a minor theme among the Seven Deasly Themes: The ""Disregarding Seriousness of Mental Illness."" EVM never stopped mentioning about the Catholic priest who committed suicide.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"No indian sitting. No W sitting. Rise up, fellow brethren",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"Nope, just log off after the recessional. If you're not an officer, you're not required. Really, what can they possibly do to you if you don't comply? Also, it's your house, not theirs, you sit where you want to sit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"Just log off, they're not going to do anything about it.
What? Are they going to label you a detractor and delist you for logging off?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"> We're not even officers but we are required to attend both opening and closing officers prayer
Glad I'm not the only one who's noticed. Hell, *not all officers* are technically even required previously to attend the opening and closing prayers.
> They are even dictating us where to sit (ie not in the couch/sofa)
Lmao it's tempting to say ""okay we'll sit on the floor cross legged""
> last Thursday's WS is all about obeying ""the will of God""
I honestly do not remember the last time they taught anything different.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,I actually take pleasure if logging off while whoever is still reading the long list of spam reminders. You should you try it!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,They’re pushing their control over the brethren under the guise that it’s “the will of God”. I’d log off as soon as it’s over.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,I remember during the prayer the minister said something along the lines of asking God to bless EVM's family so they may bring him joy and he will be able to lead the entirety of the church blah blah blah. Then another point in the closing prayer where the minister said that we will obey EVM's commandments because it is God's will...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,You make me smile with your thoroughness,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,Mas masarap buhay sa labas. Halika na!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,Here's a fun fact regarding their beloved book. The Lamsa translation was not published till 1933. What was the INC teaching back then if this book wasn't published yet?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"He did say the Bible is doing the explaining, not them. So why do most other versions that is not Lamsa say church of God and not Church of Christ? How can that be explained, Ka Eduardo?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"Yup. Same shit, different day.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"Yup. Same shit, different day.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"Thank you for the ""Tuloy Tally""! I thought it would be higher, since it was around 45 the previous PPV. :D",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"This just falls within ""Don't leave the INC"" and ""Social Media against the Church"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"Here's a fun tidbit about that Catholic Priest. I had to really search for this, but it was a priest in India. India does have a high suicidal rate in general though.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,"Ama! For the sake of your dear church and to bring him joy, please bless EVM and his entire family! Except for his mother, his brother, his sister, his other brother... /s",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2020)",joyp2y,2020-11-05,Rome 16: 16,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2020)",jtavfk,2020-11-12,"Seven Deadly Themes noticed:
* *Don't leave the INC* (mentions of not exchanging things for your membership)
* *Social Media against The Church* (mentions of socmed)
I don't do detailed reports anymore, but 2 things stuck to me: Bitching about immigration and bitching about culture. Also homophobia. The main lesson was about how ""lucky"" you're an INC, but it seems like those two things stuck to mind because they went on tangents about that.
The first thing was bitching about immigration and how Filipinos / 3rd world country citizens want to move to the USA (as an example). Like seriously, how is that a fucking problem to them. They even mentioned something about like ""Just because you're a US citizen doesn't mean you're a British citizen"". Tell me a sane person, let alone a sane Christian who has proven that. They kept comparing that to ""citizenship in the holy city"".
Next is how they shit on culture and how ""INC does not adjust to other cultures when they expanded to other countries"". They poked on USA's law (or whatever it is) about emacipation (if you're 18+, you're no longer bound to your parents/guardian). ***HOW IS THAT A FUCKING PROBLEM TO THEM? HOW IS THAT A FUCKING BIG DEAL? THEY'RE IN THE FUCKING AGE OF MAJORITY. THERE'S NO NEED FOR THEIR PARENTS/GUARDIAN TO BABY THEM.***
Then there came the fucking relationship-related so-called ""sins"". First they brought up divorce/annulment and the only case they brought up was a what-if case of future incompatibility. Next is live-in partnership because of said incompatibility. Then.. Same-sex marriage!! They said shit about how it's ""a teaching of the devil"".
***IT'S FUCKING 2-0-2-0 AND THIS CULT IS STILL LIKE THIS SHIT. FUCKING HELL. SO WHAT'S NEXT, EXISTING IS NOW A SIN?***
At this point I want to give up.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jtavfk/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2020)",jtavfk,2020-11-12,"For complete refercence below is the copy of the hws. Prepared by the great minion general evangelist
Reference:
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED
BY BROTHER BIENVENIDO C. SANTIAGO
SATURDAY/SUNDAY: NOVEMBER 14/15, 2020
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THE TRUE HOME AND CITIZENSHIP OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST
Our membership in the Church Of Christ cannot be exchanged for anything that people of this world value. Because of our being chosen by God, we have the right relationship with Him. We received the right to render true worship and the right way to serve Him. God also gave us the privilege to call on Him, and He listens to us when we pray to Him. Most of all, even now we are already certain of receiving salvation on Judgment Day and the promised eternal life with God and with our Lord Jesus Christ.
We are certain that those blessings are intended for us because as stated in Ephesians 2:19 (New International Version) “You are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household.” The ones referred to in this verse are those who are in union with Christ, according to Ephesians 2:12-13 (Good News Bible). Even though they used to be separated from Christ, had no part in the covenants, and lived without God in this world, but because of their union with Christ, they were brought near to God through redemption with the blood of Christ.
Sin caused people to be far away from God. However, when Christ redeemed with His blood the people in the Church Of Christ, according to Acts 20:28 (Lamsa translation), their sins were forgiven and they were brought near to God. Therefore, we, members of the true Church, are the ones who are truly in union with Christ. We are fellow citizens of God’s people and members of God’s household.
According to John 10:9 (Revised English Bible), there is no discrimination in accepting people in joining the Church Of Christ. The Lord Jesus Christ said “anyone who comes into the fold ”or the Church Of Christ “will be safe.” Anyone—regardless of his race, citizenship or nationality, or socio-economic status—may come into the Church Of Christ, when he has understood and firmly believed in the gospel preached by those who have the authority to preach.
Even though the members of the true Church come from different races, according to Galatians 3:26-28 (New Century Version),there is no longer a difference between Jew or Greek, slave and free person, male and female—we are all the same in Christ.
During the time of the apostles, there were Church members who were Jews, Greeks, Romans, Ethiopians, Samaritans, and others. In our time today, members of the Church Of Christ are of different nationalities. According to First Corinthians 12:13 (Bible in Basic English), the Jews or Greeks or people from any other race who were baptized into Christ were formed into one body, the Church Of Christ.
Hence, it does not matter what our race or citizenship is; as long as we are members of the Church Of Christ, there is no difference between Jew or Greek, Filipino, American, German, Japanese or whatever race and nationality. We are all the same in Christ.
We are no longer foreigners to one another but fellow citizens of God’s chosen people and members of the household of God. And so, Church members should not get involved in fighting or disputes concerning differences in race, gender, or nationality so the unity of the Church will be preserved.
If there are customs or cultural practices in a Church member’s country of origin, which do not conform to God’s teachings that we firmly believe in, we should not be so well-adjusted or conform to such. Instead, according to Romans 12:2 (The Message), we should recognize what God wants or His will, and respond or conform to it. What is according to God’s will are the things that do not contradict His teachings written in the Bible.
For example, regarding marriage. It is customary in some countries to allow interfaith marriage or marriage between a man and a woman from different religions. There are countries that allow same-sex marriage. There are those that have legalized divorce. There are people who disregard marriage and live together as husband and wife even though unmarried. There are those who are married but are committing adultery.
True Christians should not conform to those because such things are only “dragging [people] down to its level of immaturity.” The advice to us is: “Don’t become so well-adjusted to your culture that you fit into it without even thinking.” Let us fix our attention on God, and we will be changed from the inside out.
Instead of valuing more the culture and customs in our country of origin that are contrary to God’s will, what we should give higher regard to is our membership in the Church Of Christ for, because of it, our citizenship is in heaven, according to Philippians 3:20 (American Standard Version) The privileges of citizenship in any country in this world, no matter how great or many those privileges may be, can never compare with the graces and blessings that come with our membership in the Church Of Christ and our citizenship in heaven.
During the first century, many people considered it a great benefit to have Roman citizenship because the Roman Empire dominated a large part of the ancient world. In our time, what is considered as a great advantage, especially by people in the so-called “Third World countries,” is to become a U.S. citizen or British citizen.
Apostle Paul, though a Jew, was a citizen of Tarsus in Cilicia (Acts 21:39) and a Roman citizen by birth (Acts 22:27-28). Nevertheless, what he deemed as a great and wonderful thing is his citizenship in heaven. Thus, he told the members of the Church Of Christ, “Our citizenship is in heaven.
”According to Philippians 3:20-21 (English Standard Version), our citizenship as Church Of Christ members is much greater than any citizenship on earth. Nothing else can bring us such great blessings—salvation and glory—other than our citizenship in heaven, which we acquired when God called us into the Church Of Christ.
Righteousness dwells in the Holy City where we shall be brought, according to Second Peter 3:13, unlike in this world where injustice prevails, which is why there are people who are maltreated and killed. There is no one here on earth who has the power to solve all the turmoil, unrest, and injustice in this world. The only one who can put an end to all those things is our Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, when He returns to take us with Him to our true home.
In the Holy City, according to Revelation 21:1-4, no one will ever mistreat us and nothing will ever cause us pain and suffering. While here on earth, according to Hebrews13:14, no city is permanent. On Judgment Day, the earth and all the works in it will be burned. So, let us not exchange our membership in the Church Of Christ for anyone or anything in this world.
It was foretold in Job 14:1-2 (New Living Translation) that man’s life in this world is so frail, short, and full of trouble. People with great intelligence and wealth cannot do anything to change that plight of humanity because God is the One Who decreed it to be so. That is why poverty and hardship remain unsolved. When we, Church Of Christ members, help our fellowmen—Church members and nonmembers alike—we do so to somehow lighten the burdens in life of our fellowmen and to let them feel our love and concern for them.
However, we and anybody else can never solve such problem of humanity. The solution to it will come only when our Lord Jesus Christ returns to bring the ones whom He will save in the Holy City. So, let us share our faith with our fellowmen so they will also be among God’s chosen people, the ones whom God considers His children whose citizenship is in heaven.
In First Peter 2:11 (Darby Translation)& 12 (International Children’s Bible),the apostles exhort us that while we are sojourning or temporarily residing in this world and journeying towards our true home, we should live good lives amidst people who do not believe so they will see the good things we do, not for our own glory but for the glory of God.
That’s why, Brother Eduardo Manalo frequently reminds us to completely renew our lives and obey the commands of God because our Executive Minister wants all of us to reach heaven, because our citizenship is there. If we truly have faith in that promise of God, we should strive to be good citizens who abide by the supreme law—God’s laws and decrees.
If we experience difficulties as we sojourn in this world, let us consider it as our sharing in the sufferings of our Lord Jesus Christ. When we are able to do that, according to First Peter 4:12-13 (Modern English Version), we will rejoice and be fully glad when His glory is revealed. On His Second Advent, He will transform our mortal body into a glorious body, like His.
May that be our inspiration in our journey in this world. No matter what we encounter, let us stand firm and strong in our membership in the Church Of Christ so we can uphold it until the end and fully benefit from it.
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED
BY BROTHER BIENVENIDO C. SANTIAGO
SATURDAY/SUNDAY: NOVEMBER 14/15, 2020",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jtavfk/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2020)",jtavfk,2020-11-12,I fell asleep during the ws. It's just the same lesson anyway but with added stupidity like citizenshit to the holy shitty that our glorious leader's grandpa promised.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jtavfk/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2020)",jtavfk,2020-11-12,I remember they used the same verse yesterday as they did shortly after all the BLM things happened. I dunno. They’ve been running out of things to BS about. Just keep drilling into our heads that we shouldn’t “partake in this culture” just because of our surroundings lmao. Ok.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jtavfk/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2020)",jtavfk,2020-11-12,"It was something about not following and bashing cultures/traditions if it deviated from the ""Pamumuhay ng Kristiano/Christian Life"". Ex: Fiestas, Catholic events and holidays, Christmas and events from other countries like Octoberfest.
They also made a twist in that famous line ""_When in Rome. Do_ **NOT** _do as the Romans do._""
+something against social media, divorce, same-sex relations and racism.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jtavfk/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2020)",jtavfk,2020-11-12,You covered the dumb things I saw. At the beginning was interesting about how everyone can be saved not just Filipinos.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jtavfk/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2020)",jtavfk,2020-11-12,"> WHAT'S NEXT, EXISTING IS NOW A SIN?
Always has been (according to INC basically).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jtavfk/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2020)",jtavfk,2020-11-12,"yes ""existing is a sin"" always has been especially for christians. the moment we were born we are sinners. we have inherited the original sin. an innocent baby is a sinner. stupid religious bullshit",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jtavfk/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2020)",jtavfk,2020-11-12,"It’s a *problem* for them because they are here lurking and seeing the advice given to younger redditors, who they think cannot think for themselves.
INC is sCaReD because everyone is leaving! And they are here reading about Filipinos who are in the western world (Read: cash cow) waking up!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jtavfk/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2020)",jtavfk,2020-11-12,The rather nice hymn lineup was totally misleading for the lesson. It seems like everything is a sin ..... unless you shut up and offer.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jtavfk/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2020)",jtavfk,2020-11-12,I hope the 3 stooges from fs subs will like it. Its yours right? Tell your master lord evm to thank me for helping you propagate your faith.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jtavfk/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"**Hymns**:
* 51: Officers' prayer hymn
* 302: Showtune with a mention of fruit-bearing/dragging people into the cult, er, church
* 349 (""We Will Live According to Your Word""): Obedience hymn/showtune, remain within the church, yadda yadda
* 351 (""A Blessed Joyful End""): Obedience/duty hymn
* 58
* 363 (""Our Souls Wait Eagerly""): Showtune-like near the end
* 286: Recessional hymn
**Prayers** (Approx.):
* Officers' Prayer: 5:00
* Opening Prayer: 5:44
* Closing Prayer: 10:59 (1:30 longer than the previous PPV's closing prayer!)
* Officers' Prayer: 1:31
* Total: 23:14 (Previous was 27:55 because there was an ordination and a prayer)
* Because I attended a full Tagalog WS, I don't know how much time exactly the ministers spent kissing up to Mr. Manalo vs. praying to Jesus. I have a hunch EVM got 3x as much mention as Jesus did.
**Sermon**:
* milestones/celebrations/blah blah blah...
* mention of poverty, world situation
* Hebrews 10:23
* Here another verse was read discussing the new heaven and new earth (I wasn't paying attention here. I also don't know how many times ""tuloy"" was said before this point if any.)
* Hebrews 12:22-23
* I Peter 4:12-13
* I Peter 2:21-23
* Psalms 27:13, 5, 14
* 2 Corinthians 7:1
* Job 11:14, 17-18
* Ps 143: 4, 1, 10-11
* Isa 41:17-18 (with a mention of verse 9)
* Sermon Length: 54 minutes (Up slightly from the previous 52 minutes)
* Total PPV Length: 1 hour, 33 minutes (Down slightly from the previous 1 hour, 36 minutes)
**""TuLoY!"" Tally**: 41 (Just the ones I counted! Up from the previous 35)
**Other Stray Thoughts/Remarks/Tangents**:
* Why is it we only sing higher-numbered hymns (the ones not included in the hymnal) during these PPVs (aside from holy supper/thanksgiving)? Is this the administration of making PPVs special?
* Barring choir members, anyone even remember the aforementioned higher-numbered hymns (hence why I put the titles and tried to describe them)?
* More and more hymns have been getting descants/first soprano lines. I guess this is to make the hymns more majestic/spiritual to those who still believe. To me, all this does is make the brainwashing content of the hymns easier to enter the minds of those who haven't yet awakened.
* EVM calls out anyone who relinquished their duty/ies or even their INC membership. So...like thousands of brethren, possibly more?
* Considering how much EVM shuffles verses, I wonder how good he is at shuffling cards.
* And WHY does EVM keep making his reader repeat certain parts of verses so much? Does he really think we're a bunch of preschoolers & kindergarteners?
* EVM mentions a catholic priest that committed suicide because he supposedly ""LoSt HoPe.""
* ""It's bad to be discouraged/disheartened."" —Mr. Manalo, 2020
* Of course EVM would mention offerings, even if it's just a quick mention.
* ""These are not my words. If they were, don't believe them."" Well, there we have it! Mr. ~~Monopoly~~ Manalo himself said it, and he wonders why so many have stopped believing.
* EVM claims not to want anyone to suffer or be cursed. Would that include his family members whom he expelled for supposedly TrYiNg To CaUsE dIvIsIoN?
* I love how there are times when one ""Tuloy!"" happens maybe 2-3 seconds after the previous. See? He doesn't even trust his reader! If that's the case, why doesn't he himself read? If he did, would he still say things like ""Tuloy"" mid-sentence?
* ""If we didn't have God's promise, then what is happening to other religions would also have happened to us."" Oh, the lack of self-awareness!
* I noticed that (at least in my region) the head honchos (aka monitors, hosts, backup hosts, and gatekeepers) removed the ability for brethren to unmute their mics. If that weren't the case, I can only imagine someone ""accidentally"" unmuting him/herself and screaming, ""Hurry up already!"" (or its Tagalog translation or similar) 7 or so minutes into the nearly-11 minute closing prayer.
Another 2 weeks, another video streaming forced down our throats. How do I make it through these things? When I'm alone, like I was this time and last time, I:
* lip-sync the hymns
* type up this report during the ""lesson""
* scroll through the participants list to see people I know
* try to find people not singing so I can gauge whether or not I myself should sing or even lip-sync
* play hearts/spades/solitaire
* go onto the Internet
* daydream/wonder why there isn't a ""tl; dr"" button for these ""worship services""
* doodle in my journal if I have it
When I'm with other people, I make sure to bring my journal so I can still doodle/pretend to take notes when really I'm writing stuff for my report. Of course, just because I'm with others doesn't mean I stop dozing off.
Finally, please do not hesitate to add to parts that are incomplete/missing, and please correct anything I got wrong.
Till next time! Stay safe!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"Why does EVM keep bringing up that priest who committed suicide? I honestly pity the priest, he might’ve been mentally ill but instead of having sympathy, EVM says that a spiritual leader should be there to lead instead of being consummated by the woes of this world. Ughhh, spiritual leader or not, we are all prone to mental illness. Fast check, EVM, you show signs of narcissism, so doesn’t it relinquish your **title** to lead the false flock?
Another thing, why keep bringing up poverty? Poverty has existed along with human civilisation, I just don’t get the point of that being a sign as *ends of the earth*.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,Thats a first. They actually blocked me from attending the PPV,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,Manalo keeps on saying about that priest who killed himself its been about 3 or 4 times now its like he's boasting that no minister is currently experiencing anxiety and depression. It shows how much the church cares for mental well being of people inside and outside of the church.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"EVM's TULOY SHOW is now live and now ready for reruns. Repetitive prayers that replayed over and over again the week after is against the cult teaching according to them like the repetitive catholic prayers, but they are doing it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,Probably evm is too high he does not know a minister committed suicide because his gf changed her mind to marry him because of the gossip that he is a gay. He survived his own stupidity and was able to go back as minister despite that. He is now married to another girl with many kids.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,Wow great report! Thanks KadPresChoirSecTSV! Now I know what to expect (to determine how much I have to pay attention...),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"I confirm that 41 ""tuloy's"" is accurate.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"""Kawawa naman ang mga tagasanlibutan. Wala silang Diyos."" -EVM, 2020",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,What is a Tuloy?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"Not that it matters, but it's an Indian Catholic Priest in India.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"> Fast check, EVM, you show signs of narcissism, so doesn’t it relinquish your title to lead the false flock?
Tell that to Trump.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,HOW?? I need to know the secret,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"Can confirm, our last ppv service we got kicked out of the webex because my spouse was eating a cough drop. Our webcam is a considerable distance away and in order to have seen something line that you’d have to zoom into spouse’s face 🤨",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,I'm so glad their I.T. department is a joke. Imagine if they had to install really invasive software that tracks people's computer use during the service. Or stick some sort of D.R.M. software that breaks computers like Securom did back in the day.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"You might want to edit your post for clarification because that made no sense.
You said a minister committed suicide because ""her"" gf changed her mind to marry him? And he's now married to another girl? Who exactly committed suicide and who is now married?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,Who?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"Thanks!
Aside from the numbers shifting here and there and maybe different verses, each PPV just boils down to the same message: never leave the church, embrace your membership by holding 10+ offices, give offerings, everyone outside is evil until you’re trying to convert them, obey & never complain, depression is evil, que sera sera",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,Yay! Thanks again for the previous “Tuloy Tally”!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"According to Google Translate:
“Pity the people of the world. They do not have God.” —EVM, 2020
(I typed it word-for-word but with a lowercase “k.” Why? Oddly starting with a capital “K” yields, “Pity the world...” Likewise, a lowercase “w” yields “...they have no God.”)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,Tagalog for “continue”,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"Exactly, that delusional ass hat still thinks that he won.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,I would if I could 🤣,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,Simple. Log as as usual but don't switch your camera on. They will boot you out !! Actually I logged in to my Webwx account and there was a problem me activating my camera,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,Sorry sir. Tao lang po. Dont make an issue,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,That’s all it boils down to. I don’t know how OWEs don’t become suspicious or annoyed from this alone. I always knew it was boring.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,You're welcome! I will help in the Tuloy Tally everytime because PPVs are very boring to me and I need something to keep myself awake 😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,Why does it need to be counted? :D,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"Careful, man. Pretty sure Central keeps logs of those who weren't able to attend for whatever reason.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,Well that sucks coz I do ppv with my family .. sometimes i get tempted to unplug the internet router lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,Awesome! Thanks! Indeed these PPVs are boring and overly long. Anything to pass the time!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"For every verse that Manalo's slave reads out, he interrupts him several times.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"I read about someone suggesting that the “tuloy’s” be counted to serve the following purposes:
* Pass the time
* See just how many times one man can say it in roughly an hour
* (Optional) See just how little the time between 2 “tuloy’s” can be
EDIT: Trying to make a list on mobile",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"I don't really care. Already had a warning about not closing eyes during a PPV. In fact I was larking about, staring out the window !!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"Can confirm this lol. It was a couple of months ago during ppv, my mom insisted on having a tagalog ppv so I asked what the word meant in the middle of the service. After, we got a call from our minister asking why I was talking during the ppv. Lol.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,^ THIS ^,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,"> After, we got a call from our minister asking why I was talking during the ppv. Lol.
Who the #@&% is watching the monitors and not paying attention to the lesson?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,I’ve no clue... but that was really creepy,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,LOL! So much for the sanctity of a supposed sacred activity haha,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2020)",jxis6s,2020-11-19,Just stare at the camera and start licking your lips then mouth some words.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 24 - Nov 26, 2020)",jzyev5,2020-11-23,"Be prayerful, don’t doubt, we’re the only ones to whom Skydaddy will listen, don’t prioritize work/school over cult gatherings, wash, rinse, repeat",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jzyev5/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_24_nov_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 24 - Nov 26, 2020)",jzyev5,2020-11-23,"It was really short today (15 minutes)
-we are the chosen ones
-being INC is the greatest gift God has given us",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jzyev5/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_24_nov_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 24 - Nov 26, 2020)",jzyev5,2020-11-23,"We had the short version, then a second OWE went ranting on for another 25 minutes. Not paying attention,was listening to Spotify. Also I can control my phone on the PC, so they will not see me looking down at the phone screen !!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jzyev5/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_24_nov_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 24 - Nov 26, 2020)",jzyev5,2020-11-23,"In other words, same shyt as always.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jzyev5/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_24_nov_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 24 - Nov 26, 2020)",jzyev5,2020-11-23,"Yay, short lesson! Although I’m sure some ministers managed to drag it out unnecessarily because that’s the way some of them do things",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jzyev5/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_24_nov_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 24 - Nov 26, 2020)",jzyev5,2020-11-23,"One of my nephews (my husband side) places his laptop on top of another laptop and he watches Netflix and mute the boring WS. This way they can’t see that he’s watching a movie. It’s working well for him, though he’s planning to leave once he’s financially independent from his folks.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jzyev5/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_24_nov_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 24 - Nov 26, 2020)",jzyev5,2020-11-23,"Yep, the higher-ups basically deleted the other lessons, never to be heard again. Doesn’t help that many ministers like acting like broken records and will do anything for their Almighty Manalo and the begotten administration",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jzyev5/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_24_nov_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 24 - Nov 26, 2020)",jzyev5,2020-11-23,"Be careful, using mute on WebEx, there is a little indicator on the participant list that indicates your have muted audio, better to set to 1",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jzyev5/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_24_nov_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 24 - Nov 26, 2020)",jzyev5,2020-11-23,"I wonder if the INCULT administration realizes how boring their lessons have been for many years now? Because one can only take so much.
When I was member, it was so difficult for me to continue worshipping knowing that the lessons were EXACT SAME THING as the previous worship services. Most members don’t get motivated to attend when they hear the same bull over and over again. Though most members (I think) accepted these because they inherently use their memberships as a tool for socialization but as a non Filipino, this was not option for me. So worship services was mentally and physically draining for me. I’m so glad that I left that hell hole.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jzyev5/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_24_nov_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 24 - Nov 26, 2020)",jzyev5,2020-11-23,"That's what we told him but I think he doesn't care anymore. He plans on leaving the cult once he's finished with college. He's almost done, set to graduate next June 2021. It's as if he's looking for ways to get into trouble by mocking them.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jzyev5/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_24_nov_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 24 - Nov 26, 2020)",jzyev5,2020-11-23,"Short Version: The administration likely repeats the lesson ad nauseam to condition the brethren into never leaving. They know how some feel and won’t do anything about it.
Long Version: My theory is the administration knows exactly what they’re doing. They regurgitate the same “lesson” to keep those who haven’t yet awakened in the “church” and to keep all the glory (and cash) for themselves. This is the administration’s way of guilt-tripping as many people as possible into spending as much time, money, and effort on the church as they see fit, and anyone who doesn’t like it gets shamed and threatened with, “YoU wOn’T rEcEiVe SaLvAtIoN!” or risks getting their parents in trouble. Indeed, the administration believes that if they keep repeating a big enough lie, then (most of) the brethren will believe and never question.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jzyev5/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_24_nov_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 27 - Nov 30, 2020)",k1ul00,2020-11-26,"Unite with the administration, labor for the church, propagate, same stuff, different day (surprise, I know).
We had a hymn literally titled “Be Diligent And Active”, as well as hymns (246; 253) that mention staying in the church/fold/cult/whatever they want to call it. “I Am a Member” was sung for the first time in a while. The other hymns weren’t that much better (This is like saying, “Drinking bleach is slightly preferable to drinking liquid nitrogen.”). However, I’m sure none of the above comes as a surprise to anyone.
* Galatians 6:7
* Jeremiah 17:10
* Matthew 5:6
* Ps 40:9-10
* Heb. 10:12
* I Timothy 6:19
* Acts 20:35 (Surprisingly not 20:28)
* Romans 15:1-2
* Repeat Acts 20:35 (unless the worker just botched the name of the verse)
* I Peter 5:1-4
* Ps 119:112
Other Comments:
So apparently God will reward/punish each person according to his/her conduct. What about the parents who got punished for their children’s misdeeds?
Do ministers have contests on whoever can mention EVM and/or the administration the most?
“Take care of the flock willingly” (or something to that effect). How many officers are doing this even slightly willingly and not from coercion? Also, ministerial worker whatchamacallit says, “Take care of yourself before you can take care of others.” Maybe then get down to WHY many brethren feel unmotivated and don’t believe?
In all, another grating sermon in yet another dismal year.
EDIT: fixed bullet",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k1ul00/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_27_nov_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 27 - Nov 30, 2020)",k1ul00,2020-11-26,Welcome back. Kala ko ikaw yung sister on FB/Tiktok talking about ka justine,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k1ul00/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_27_nov_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 27 - Nov 30, 2020)",k1ul00,2020-11-26,">So apparently God will reward/punish each person according to his/her conduct. What about the parents who got punished for their children’s misdeeds?
I was stifling a laugh when I heard this verse. Good thing we use face masks now.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k1ul00/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_27_nov_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 27 - Nov 30, 2020)",k1ul00,2020-11-26,I recall that Been Diligent And Active is hymn 41. The song had a different title in the past. Indeed that I am a member is not always sung as there can be playbacks on the last weekend worship service for the month.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k1ul00/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_27_nov_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 27 - Nov 30, 2020)",k1ul00,2020-11-26,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed.
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 27 - Nov 30, 2020)",k1ul00,2020-11-26,"This comment is approved, others are able to view it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k1ul00/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_27_nov_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 27 - Nov 30, 2020)",k1ul00,2020-11-26,They're either hypocrites or they're contradicting themselves.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k1ul00/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_27_nov_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 27 - Nov 30, 2020)",k1ul00,2020-11-26,"Yep, 41 was once called “With Unrelenting Fervor” until 2012ish",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k1ul00/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_27_nov_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 27 - Nov 30, 2020)",k1ul00,2020-11-26,Be diligent n active in doing all tasks,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k1ul00/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_27_nov_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 27 - Nov 30, 2020)",k1ul00,2020-11-26,"Ministers have a convenient hand me down explanation for this verse, apparently it refers to how God will judge people by the time Rapture comes along. They say it does not really reference or disprove the authority of Central to shit on entire families for the imagined sin of one person.
But reading along those verses makes it abundantly clear that there are *no mentions of Judgment Day* in that context. It's a book in the OT for fuck's sake.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k1ul00/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_27_nov_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 27 - Nov 30, 2020)",k1ul00,2020-11-26,Correct.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k1ul00/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_27_nov_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 27 - Nov 30, 2020)",k1ul00,2020-11-26,and to fulfill our duty God has given us,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k1ul00/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_27_nov_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 01 - Dec 03, 2020)",k4dxmx,2020-11-30,"Don’t let Satan or his minions tempt you because you are a member of the Church of Christ so always pray in the house of worship so that maybe you will be saved on a day that’s been “so near” for millennia. Tune in next time! ...for the exact same thing, except 3x longer because this weekend will be PPV 🙃",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k4dxmx/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_01_dec_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 01 - Dec 03, 2020)",k4dxmx,2020-11-30,"Hmm, wonder what to do in tonight's snooooozefest ??
And shall I wear 1 of my many Christmas jumpers ?? (it is quite cold now here in UK)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k4dxmx/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_01_dec_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 01 - Dec 03, 2020)",k4dxmx,2020-11-30,"All I heard yesterday was that his highness will grace us with his words of boredom, I mean wisdom this weekend. Beyond that, nothing worth hearing.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k4dxmx/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_01_dec_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 01 - Dec 03, 2020)",k4dxmx,2020-11-30,"Thank God my shitty internet made our computer crash, but before it crashed it was the same topic as last week; always value and prioritize your membership",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k4dxmx/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_01_dec_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 01 - Dec 03, 2020)",k4dxmx,2020-11-30,"> this weekend will be PPV 🙃
Oh god no not again. I’m not surprised though.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k4dxmx/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_01_dec_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 01 - Dec 03, 2020)",k4dxmx,2020-11-30,"Yes, the administration really likes PPVs for their own gain (esp. that of EVM)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k4dxmx/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_01_dec_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,"A lot of new shows on Netflix. Save it for eduardo's video streaming HWS this weekend. Don't forget to mute your laptops and desktops, folks. 🎅🏻🎄",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,"**At a Glance**
* Total WS Length: 1 hour, 39 minutes (up from the previous 1h36m)
* Sermon Length: 1 hour, 2 minutes (up from prev. 54 min)
* Tuloy Tally: 64 (up from prev. 41)
* That's on average 1 tuloy every 58 seconds!
**Prayer Lengths**
* Officers' Prayer: 4 min
* Opening Prayer: 5 min
* Closing Prayer: 10 min
* Officers' Prayer: 2 min
* Total: 21 min (down from prev. 23 min)
**Sermon**
* opening about anniversary celebrations
* James 5:7-8
* Titus 2:12
* Apparently God is kind because he teaches us not to do wrong. Isn't he supposed to do that anyway? How does that make him ""kind""?
* Luke 12:42-43
* Romans 12:2
* Don't imitate people of the world, and let ~~the church and its administration~~ God change the way you think.
* 1 Corinthians 15:58
* Your work for a being that may or may not actually exist is (supposedly) never in vain.
* Here Mr. Manalo exhorts his followers not to refuse an office if asked in an attempt to guilt-trip them into spending all their time and effort in the INC Inc. Also, be obedient and active, even to the point that common sense would dictate you're in a cult.
* John 15:16
* Here's yet another one of the administration's favorite verses as it mentions fruit-bearing
* Revelation 14:13
* Woe to those who died before Jesus Christ came to life. How exactly is the theoretical Skydaddy supposed to be good and gracious?
* Psalms 18:31-33
* Leave it to EVM to find a way to bash the Catholic Church!
* Psalms 18:15-20
* EVM claims the quality of INC continues to improve. Leave it to him to hide the truth while flaunting the ""victory"" of an organization handed to him from 2 generations ago!
* Psalms 34:7
* Romans 8:35-36, 37-39 (Note the break after 36)
* 2 Corinthians 1:8-10
* EVM claims depression causes people to make mistakes. What's this about his so-called ""dynamic leadership""?
I had voiced my thoughts on the ""hymns"" for this PPV on the December lineup ([https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k3fpp6/december\_lineup/](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k3fpp6/december_lineup/)). The tl;dr is that the hymns are about obedience, NOT praising 2 spiritual beings whose existences are highly debatable.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,A minister said during WS that not completing your lagak card is a sin. Welp.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,"The same regurgitated old-man rambling:
**THE WORLD IS SHIT. FUCKED UP SHIT. OMG THE HORRORS OF THIS WORLD. IT IS SO BAD IT IS SO SHIT. EVIL IS EVERYWHERE OH MY GOD!!1!!**
~~Let's make it better!~~ STAY IN THE CHURCH SO YOU ARE PROTECTED FROM THE EVILS OF THIS WORLD!!!
*Tuloy!*
Depression is not real! You lack faith and Jesus in your life!
**WE ARE THE TRUE CHURCH! WE WORSHIP THE REAL ONE AND ONLY GOD!** (Talks shit about catholics only. Doesn't mention muslims. Afraid to get beheaded by extremists. What a pussy lmao)
The internet is bad!
*Tuloy*
**THE WORLD IS SHIT. FUCKED UP SHIT. GOD IS PUNISHING US WITH THIS EPIDEMIC AND TYPHOONS! THE HORROR!1** ~~Doesn't mention the nearly finished vaccines and the recovery from the typhoon~~
*Tuloy!*
*Tuloy*
Do not refuse when you are offered an office. REFUSING IS THE EQUIVALENT OF TURNING YOUR BACK FROM GOD!!!
RECRUIT MORE PEOPLE. ~~We're low on cash~~ LETS SAVE THEM FROM THIS EVIL WORLD
**OFFER MORE MONEY. THE CHURCH NEEDS TO MOVE
FORWARD**
*Tuloy*
**THE END IS NEAR. NEVER LEAVE THE CHURCH**
Why does Manalo think the world is so bad? Every unfortunate event he, his father and his grandfather has claimed to be a sign of the world's end has had its resolution.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,"Our church in the UK is opening for Holy Supper
Can't quite believe that !!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,🤞,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,"im gonna watch a Christmas movie 🎄
ps in your micro settings you can disable the mic function for webex",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,im usually playing call of duty during the service,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,"The way EVM talks about depression is truly some of the scummiest shit I've ever heard, dude doesn't have a fucking clue",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,"You should have told the minister, ""So is lying"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,"You don’t have to complete anything you didn’t start. So brother minister
No lagak=nothing to complete=no sin",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,Sounds like a made-up rule to me!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,"Didn't know there were lagak cards in biblical times.
Can the imbecile of a minister please reference where that is?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,"Lagak is a scam. The INC Cult started to collect lagak offering at the start of the year until year end thanksgiving. During year end thanksgiving, the INC Cult just give you a no-value paper check for offering. That is what you offer to god?, a no-value paper check? because Manalo already pocketed your money ahead.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,"THE TEMERITY! I wish they get reported to the Interpol & the WHO.
#SuperSpreaders
#INCOVID1913",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,Lol. A lot of those now on Netflix. Enjoy! 🎅🏻🎄,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,Lol! Keep it up 🤣🤣,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,"In the real world a person can actually sue somebody who makes erroneous statements about Depression that could inflict more damage. A good thing for EVM and his uneducated opinions regarding mental health that his followers blindly follow the INCULT'S rules of not suing the cult, otherwise, EVM will face humiliating damaging lawsuits, solidifying that beneath his obese body lies a very small brain, the likes of which lack the basic understanding of humanity.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,It's during BNH sermon btw. Lol if I could only shout 🤣,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,Exactly and INCULT (from the top) have had long history of lying.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,Lol 😆,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,"Lagak is a good thing to do, and not doing good things are also sins 🤣 That was exactly how they justify it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,It's my first time to hear it either. Lmao they are desperate,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,INCult makes me sin. No INC=No sin,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 04 - Dec 07, 2020)",k6e3q4,2020-12-03,Very!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 08 - Dec 10, 2020)",k8xppm,2020-12-07,Proud to say I have not been attending.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k8xppm/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_08_dec_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 08 - Dec 10, 2020)",k8xppm,2020-12-07,"This is probably one of the most explicit WSs where they outright say that you're screwed if you don't give money to the cult. Jesus. If they were that hungry for money, the could be a tad bit more subtle, LMAO.
Also, the huge PASALAMAT print on the envelopes are way too much. I find it really funny, + the matching Bible verse. Good way to fool believers into emptying their bank accounts. It's frustrating and pitiable.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k8xppm/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_08_dec_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 08 - Dec 10, 2020)",k8xppm,2020-12-07,"Just our annual dose of the ""Give your pay cheques to Manalo because God says so"" series.
These services are the worst to sit through and I find myself angry and bitter throughout December because of them. They dismantle and completely shit-blast the bible, and reiterates just how brainwashed that they have their members. Or at least half of your members, the other half of us understand that this is a greedy corporation who's sole purpose is to make money off of those who are already struggling in exchange for false information and a shot of hope twice a week. But, we can't say shit because we risk losing our family life.
What makes me equally angry is that it is slowly making my heard black. I used to wish that these lies would simply be uncovered and the members go on to be real Christians for God and not the Manalos. But now I'm starting to wish pain and suffering over the entire administration because there is no way that any of them actually believe what they spew; you cannot purposefully misuse words to the extent that they do and think that it's ok.
End rant. Nothing to see here.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k8xppm/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_08_dec_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 08 - Dec 10, 2020)",k8xppm,2020-12-07,"Wonder if the vaccine in the UK will be mentioned as the first nurse was a Filipina.
But I doubt it as they are sexist and don't acknowledge or respect women",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k8xppm/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_08_dec_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 08 - Dec 10, 2020)",k8xppm,2020-12-07,I'm proud of you too. 👍,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k8xppm/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_08_dec_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 08 - Dec 10, 2020)",k8xppm,2020-12-07,Havent attended and im eating delicious food instead and im reading here incase some jackass minister asks what was the lesson about.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k8xppm/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_08_dec_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 08 - Dec 10, 2020)",k8xppm,2020-12-07,You being angry is the direct effect to the INC 2 x a week brainwashing s#%tshow while being already enlightened. I stopped going and I calmed down and actually felt kinder to my OWEs negative behavior towards me.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k8xppm/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_08_dec_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 08 - Dec 10, 2020)",k8xppm,2020-12-07,"As a RN, I find your comment totally without merit. We do the job that we're supposed to do and not seek public recognition. The subject is about vaccine and not about the healthcare provider who gave the injection.
Edit: This thread is only for the Mid-Week Service Examination. To OP, this should have been in the Open Discussion Thread.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k8xppm/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_08_dec_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 08 - Dec 10, 2020)",k8xppm,2020-12-07,"Who gives a shit if the nurse was Filipino?!? Why do Filipinos make a big deal when a Filipino (outside the PI) gets 15 minutes of fame? Like a Filipino will be on some tv show, or y’all find out some singer is half Filipino? Who cares? Also, I was stationed in the UK and as a whole the UK is definitely not a sexist country. I’m willing to bet the Philippines is way more sexist than the UK. But I’ve only been to the PI twice, so what do I know 🤷🏻♀️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k8xppm/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_08_dec_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 08 - Dec 10, 2020)",k8xppm,2020-12-07,The post was meant to highlight that the church/God will probably take credit for the vaccine due to the nurse being Filipino.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k8xppm/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_08_dec_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 08 - Dec 10, 2020)",k8xppm,2020-12-07,I did mean INC being sexist not the UK,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k8xppm/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_08_dec_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"This weekend is also the thanksgiving service for the CWS, which according to our locale minion includes unborn children.
So if you're a pregnant mother, you should also attend the CWS Thanksgiving service and offer thanksgiving for your unborn child. The rationale is not that you should be thankful for the blessing which is your child (which goes without saying), but rather that your unborn child should be giving thanks... Wtf?!
Just when I thought I saw and heard everything from this scummy-ass INCult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"Another one of those ""give money to us"" lectures and straight out cursing you if you only give a portion / don't give at all. No regards, no sympathy, just a blasphemous religious gun to your head going ""give us your money or your ass ain't getting saved"". Yawns. I read the lesson for today, tried my VERY BEST not to burst into a fit of laughter while reading the entire thing, LMFAO. My god. This cult is a disaster. Everything just reeks of ""we want nothing but money.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,I am so blessed that me and my family were out of this shit hole Manalo INC cult since 2015. What a big relief!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"More offering talks and how we should be giving our offering voluntarily and not be forced. Here's an idea, don't associate our names with offering so that it's actually voluntary. If names aren't tracked, then you'll see real voluntary offering. Remove the deacons/deaconesses from collecting offering because they glare at you if you don't give offering or if you give coins and leave a single offering box.
They talked about how members endured hardships during this pandemic and that God has blessed them by helping them. The minister mentioned how people are saying, ""What about those outside the church? They endured hardships and then God apparently saved them too."" He then tried to explain that there's a difference between the two and said that we're different because we have God's promised salvation. Wait what??? That doesn't explain why God helped them too. Oh INC...you make me laugh.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"they had ""other religion was wrong"" AGAIN, for today...after the first few sentences, i open ytube to hear something worth listening",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"No, INC's most favourite verse to guilt-trip on offerings, is the story of the church in Macedonia, where they still gave abundantly in times of severe poverty, they gave offerings more than what they can.
You cannot just implement that at this time, back then, the demands for things and cost of living aren't that high compared to now.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,Why the Sapira story was used in the year end offering??,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,Ananias and Sapira are the most famous Bible characters next to Jesus in INC.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"Unlike before, the ministers currently will be given ""biglang tulong bonus"" after year-end thanksgiving. Why? the money that they collected from the year-end thanksgiving will be given out as the ministers bonus. That is why the ministers are very aggressive with offering collections campaign recently.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"Apparently, giving less of your money is MORE SINFUL than denying Christ 3 times like Apostle Peter",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"This is getting ridiculous and to think I heard the worst of INC. This reeks so much stink that if members continue to dip into their pockets, then I don't know what to say.
I understand if members are forced to stay out of guilt from parental pressure but please don't give them any money. Pretend all you like that you're still a member physically but don't give them anything other than your attendance. These f*****s don't deserve your hard earned money. Let then scream like a spoiled child. So what! Let their message go from one ear and out the other. And once you guys are ready, then leave that toxic environment.
My family and I left in 2018 and life so sweet. I can't even begin to describe how beautiful not to see those horrid nasty people.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"ahahaha desperate attempts to gather more income
u/llnt0821",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"So let us say, just f#%ked my SO last night and we could be pregnant, do we also give offerings. Later on INC will add CWS offerings start at the point that you are just thinking of getting pregnant. Anything to make a buck.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,im pretty sure that the thanksgiving of the unborn child should come with a monetary offering otherwise it wont be accepted,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,Oops! my pregnancy test just came positive today! That means thanksgiving offering to the cws!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,AND ITS MY TURN TO READ THAT FUCKING LETTER OF evm TO MY KIDS TOMORROW!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,Congratulations! 🥳,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"Oh my god,I know an inc lady and now I see her point, She says God has blessed me bla. Bla .The rest won't see heaven and she will look down and laugh at us non believers .Its better they believe in Santa claus.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"And Jesus said, love your neighbour. These guys waste one hour, criticising others.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,The INC basically says “other religion bad” unironically.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"How ironic, that they lied about a parable about God punishing liars.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,">plus mentioning the selling the properties of the biblical members and sending the cash to the apostles? that's bold statement of brainwashing and submission WTF
What INC described was Christian communism in the New Testament.
> it raise so much question
It had a lot of contradictions within itself. Seems like people have already beat me to describing them.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,And what happened to the church in Macedonia now?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,Don’t forget the long suffering but ever resilient Job.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,I thought this was only emphasized during bloc voting season. Looks like they've been salvaging this for almost anything now.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,I was afraid I was gonna die when I was young when I deduct from my offer,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,">Unlike before, the ministers currently will be given ""biglang tulong bonus"" after year-end thanksgiving.
What's your source on this? I've heard nothing of the sort from my own father, as well as acquaintances within the ministry.
If there's anyone gunning for a *biglang tulong bonus* it's the Manalos and the Sanggunian themselves.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,is this true? then they are not any different to bus/jeepney drivers,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"Exactly - So if you're expecting twins, does that mean that you have to hand out two envelopes each CWS and then 2 Thanksgiving monies? And what happens if your unborn child dies (because it can happen), does this mean that you have to tell them that you're no longer attending the CWS because you miscarried?
This is one of the most asinine 💩 I've ever heard. Their desperation is so transparent. Disgusting 🥺",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"I wouldn't read it.
I remember when my family and I were still members and at some point, the admin used to hand out to parents messages to be read to the children. My husband who was born inside the church often was torn because on one hand, he didn't fully embraced the doctrines. So he just mumbled through and said things like, ""ahhh not to important, adult stuff and not applicable to kids.""
Interesting too was that our kids never spoke out to their friends in the cult because I think deep down inside that they too didn't really care about INC even in the early stages.
But for you as a parent and feeling as you do about the cult, it's important that you protect your children at all costs. Limit their exposure to the cult as much as possible. My husband and I were fortunate in this because my side of the family are non-members. So my kids were exposed to the world outside of INC more often than inside and even early on, they knew the difference.
I know this is tough but you're doing your kids a world of good and someday they will appreciate that you had given them a choice.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"Sorry to hear. Yikes. The mind-conditioning really starts when you're young and born into the INC, it's terrifying. Hoping for the best. :(",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"Just mumble along in monotone, hopefully they’ll tune it out",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"Because they think they are the only true church, but pride doing this (criticizing), especially to former members. This shows the insecurities of the current leader.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,It’s their way of trying to differentiate themselves from other religions to say that they’re better than everyone else so they can have the moral high ground. It’s stupid.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,**HOW THE FUCK DOES A PERSON STEAL** ***THEIR OWN MONEY*** **ANYWAY?**,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"They are now of Catholics, a combination of Roman paganism and Christianity or probably some orthodox religions rooted from Catholics or in simple words, they're gone.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"Job is the MVP of suffering in INC. When they’re talking about life’s problems, they use him to tell the brethren to suck it up and take it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,is it true the current biglang tulog is just half?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,I appreciate the advise very much. Thank you so much,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,Its a good thing its written in filipino/ tagalog plus the fact that evm statements are incomprehensible for children. My daughter really have a hard time understanding tagalog words,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,That's what I'm talking about. Gone and forgotten except some religions like the inc cult are making money out of that church of Macedonia bible story.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"MVP lol.
INC made me despise Job",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,My brother in-law minister told me that they might not even have it this year because of less collections due to covid.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"Hardcore fundamentalist Christians (like INC members) see Job as a role model.
Atheists and agnostics see Job as the ultimate brainwashed moron.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 11 - Dec 14, 2020)",kaw08c,2020-12-10,"INC made me despise religion as a whole. I’m with you, SignificantRoyal1354.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kaw08c/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_11_dec_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 15 - Dec 17, 2020)",kdf1hw,2020-12-14,"This service’s hymns repeated the hymns from last year’s year-end thanksgiving. In order barring the officers’ prayer hymn, they went:
* showtune (322)
* God only saves the people in the INC, be happy when suffering (492)
* world is bad (494)
* another showtune (this time it’s about safeguarding your membership and never leaving the church!) (491)
* before text was yet another Broadway-esque tune, this time about obedience (487)
As for the sermon, the topic was about safeguarding your membership in the supposedly true church...yawn...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kdf1hw/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_15_dec_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 15 - Dec 17, 2020)",kdf1hw,2020-12-14,"This week I learned that it is God's will that we do not sit on couches during ""worship services"", and if you do then you will be considered a liar.
Seriously, 45 minutes of bible-butchering so that the minister can shame those that were on couches.
Get bent.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kdf1hw/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_15_dec_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 15 - Dec 17, 2020)",kdf1hw,2020-12-14,Anyone ever groan in their head when they recognize the minister who will be preaching is going to take 45+ minutes for the sermon. My god these people love to talk,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kdf1hw/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_15_dec_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 15 - Dec 17, 2020)",kdf1hw,2020-12-14,"They just wasted 5 yrs studying the Manalo inc cult ministry, only to preach about the couch.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kdf1hw/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_15_dec_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 15 - Dec 17, 2020)",kdf1hw,2020-12-14,SNAFU'ed WS tonight !!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kdf1hw/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_15_dec_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 15 - Dec 17, 2020)",kdf1hw,2020-12-14,"That must be your minister only. I haven't heard a word about couches. Not that I actually listen to anything said. But my wife does, and she hasn't heard anything about couches either.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kdf1hw/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_15_dec_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 15 - Dec 17, 2020)",kdf1hw,2020-12-14,"INCult is now the “coach of couches”.
Dancing now ok. Sitting on couch not ok. Duly noted.
Brother Minister, what about the Lazy Boy recliner? Also is a love seat considered a couch? How about a bar stool? Toilet ok, my bathroom has good acoustics?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kdf1hw/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_15_dec_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 15 - Dec 17, 2020)",kdf1hw,2020-12-14,Yes. All the time. As soon as the WebEx starts I know who is doing it !!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kdf1hw/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_15_dec_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 15 - Dec 17, 2020)",kdf1hw,2020-12-14,please share,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kdf1hw/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_15_dec_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 15 - Dec 17, 2020)",kdf1hw,2020-12-14,"Yes it's a very specific minister, although there is one other that mentions it once in a while, but does not make it his lesson point.
The minister in the example above spends half of his ""lesson"" shaming people for trivial things like crossing their arms and wrinkled bills. A total entitled asshat who's clearly let the ""power"" go over his head.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kdf1hw/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_15_dec_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 15 - Dec 17, 2020)",kdf1hw,2020-12-14,"Well, the good thing is he would never have to worry about me giving a wrinkled bill. Because I don't give them any bills. They get Nada.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kdf1hw/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_15_dec_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"**Hymns (and My Personal Comments)**
* 344 (Officers' Prayer)
* I'll be honest here...this hymn was the best one in today's service (not that that's saying very much, as you'll soon see). Short & sweet, no idolatry to the administration.
* 325
* showtune, sounds like 2-3 different hymns spliced together, hard-to-follow rhythm in first half
* This hymn has a descant (first soprano) to make the hymn sound more ear-pleasing so the message will hopefully infiltrate the average worshiper's mind easily.
* 504
* the obligatory hymn whose theme revolves around whatever campaign/slogan the administration churned out
* There's a part about living in fervor/diligence and upholding your election...pardon me while I vomit somewhere...
* Another part that gets me is the part about ""He has never abandoned his own."" So I guess every bad thing that happened to an insider is supposedly just a test, but every bad thing that happened to an outsider is completely warranted?
* This hymn also has a descant. Woe to any voluntold first-sopranos (or even altos)
* 250
* I've said it before and I'll say it again...this newer revision doesn't come anywhere close to as good as the pre-2013 revision! Why? The first half is all about duty and being true to it. The second half is just an inferior remnant of what the old hymn once was.
* Processional
* Blessings can only be found in the true church, so never leave it. Repeat for 6 verses (plus an intro and outro) and a chorus repeated 3x
* And of course, there's a mention of the ""Leader"" (yes, capital ""L,"" like the one the administration should just take) in the 5th stanza as a subliminal kiss-up to you-know-who.
* 505 (Before Text)
* Never doubt or waver.
* ""We won't stray nor be deceived."" So then what is the current administration doing? Are they not deceiving us in ways like saying, ""ThErE's No CoRrUpTiOn In ThE cHuRcH,"" or, ""NeVeR lIsTeN tO tHe DeTrAcToRs""?
* The doxology, as you may have noticed in recent PPVs, has *at least* 6 voices: the regular SATB, first soprano/descant, and first tenor. How long before the doxology becomes a full-on Broadway-type score much like many other hymns?
* 425 (Recessional)
* I'm pretty sure, ""Never Tire of Doing What Is Good"" was a previous campaign of the administration.
* The instrumental accompaniment does not complement the vocals at all. Whoever said, ""Yup, sounds good!"" must've been a yes-person trying to please the music department.
**Verses Read**
* Psalms 107:1
* Psalms 54:6-7
* Jeremiah 33:11
* Psalms 9:1
* Colossians 1:12-14
* 2 Corinthians 8:1-4
* 1 Corintians 15:57-58
* 1 Thessalonians 5:18
* Romans 8:35, 28, 18, 37
* 1 Peter 4:16, 10, 11
* Philippians 4:6, 7, 13
**Prayer Lengths and Approximate Breakdowns**
* Officers' Opening Prayer: 4 minutes, 49 seconds
* Time spent for Manalo: 50 seconds (17.3%)
* Time spent for Christ: 34 seconds (11.8%)
* Opening Prayer: 7:21 (previous PPV's opening prayer was 5 minutes)
* I dozed off during this prayer, so I didn't catch exactly how long the minister spent praying for Manalo.
* Christ got about 40 seconds of mention (9.1%)
* Closing Prayer: 14:25 (previous PPV's closing prayer was 10 minutes)
* Again, I dozed off.
* Christ got only 30 seconds (3.5%)
* Officers' Closing Prayer: 1:54
* Manalo got 11 seconds (9.6%)
* Christ got 9 seconds, or about 7.9% of the prayer.
* Total Time Spent on Prayers: \~28.5 min (previous was \~21 min)
**Statistics**
* Tuloy Tally: 49 (previous PPV had 64)
* Sermon Length: 53 minutes (previous PPV's sermon was 1 hour, 2 minutes)
* Total PPV Length: 1 hour, 39 minutes (same as last PPV)
**Other Comments & Observations**
* As usual as of recent, no offertory hymn (Thank God \[assuming he exists\]. Anything to shorten these PPVs).
* Predictably, the sermon is about giving many thanks in the form of monetary offerings to God.
* Manalo says, ""These are not my words. If they are, don't believe them,"" then wonders why fewer brethren believe as the days elapse.
* Manalo mentions the Macedonians and how they abounded in their offerings in an attempt to guilt trip us into giving more.
* Ah, the good ol' shuffling of verses to suit the INC narrative.
* I wonder if EVM has ever considered being a pop music singer, considering how repetitive he is.
* I guess Manalo had to shorten his lesson ever so slightly to accommodate the longer ""prayers""/wailing sessions/kiss-up-to-the-leader sessions.
* In case the hymns didn't say it enough, Manalo instructs us yet again to ""UpHoLd OuR mEmBeRsHiPs""!
* Oh, ministers. You just couldn't go even one prayer without mentioning the ""beloved leader,"" could you? You also had to make sure Christ still got less time than your ""leader,"" didn't you?
* You minsters also just can't keep your words few, can you?
* Manalo flaunts the supposed victories of the church, even claiming that to list them all would take until the next WS. Maybe if the next WS was like 10 minutes away or less, I guess.
* Manalo throws shade at those not in the ""TrUe ReLiGiOn.""
* If only I had attended by myself in my own room. However, my parents decided to attend the same service I did (Tagalog with English prayer instead of Full Tagalog) and wanted me in the same room as them, hence all the approximations in the prayer timings.
* 0/10. Absolute snoozer, would not recommend.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"YETO YearEndThanksOffering for 1hr straight...kept hearing ""abundantly""...lot of members were cleansed of *evil😂😂
* ""Money is the root of all evil""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"I always bring a small bottle of rubbing alcohol every WS.
The idea of drinking it all in one gulp seemed very tempting during EVM's homily.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"Lord EVM boasted that it will take until the next WS to mention all the achievements of the church.
They just build and build and build new buildings to flaunt how rich and not corrupt INC is but eventually let members take financial responsibility for the maintenance of these ""grand"" infrastructures.
I don't know if this happened to any other locales, but the one I came from is so pathetic that they will always seek the help of affluent members to pay off the utility bills. I can still remember how the poor Head Deacon would always ask the officers to give money so they can buy food and water for ministers every worship service.
Even the LPG of the locale minister(??) or Pastor ng Lokal is shouldered by one of the officers. That officer is underprivileged and does everything to make ends meet. I pity them. The church administration will guilt trip us into offering abundantly so he and his family can have a lavish life, without having the compassion for the poverty-stricken members--oh wait, he shows compassion and love by praying for them right? What a big help! Thank you very much!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"Music of choice tonight - Bauhaus
Live timings
Opening Hymn and Officer Prayer - 7 mins
(and everybody looks piss bored)
Big Eddie wearing a black face mask
Opening Prayer - 8 mins
(lots of swaying)
Eddie is wearing a nice dark gray suit and pink tie
Usual greetings to far away places - Happy Christmas maybe, no
OK main topic - Thanksgiving !!!!!
(hide shared content so I don't have to see his smug face)
60.minute money grabbing servuce
Closing prayer - 12 minutes",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"I recall part of the prayer mentioned that there were some that were on the brink of death, but they saved them. There's been covid deaths in the church so I don't get why they're acting like there hasn't been or that those who were sick were saved from death.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"Called it a pass on this end of year shitshow.
I rather enjoyed having nice brunch at a local spot instead of being held hostage infront of a camera being forcefed lie after lie after lie.
We all know this dog and pony shitshow is all about one thing... MONEY.
These con artists will mislead its members with cherry-picked bible verses twisted more ways than a pretzel to try and back their claims. They will conjure up offices, activities with slogans and other scams to try and preoccupy and divert your attention.
Don't fall for it guys.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,PPV !!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"My memory is fuzzy since I attended, but when did thank offerings end up being referred to the end of the year Thanksgiving? I need to review the verses, but it feels like a lot of verse gymnastics to try and legitimize these YETG offerings. Wasn't the YETG something that was started by EGM? Weren't we celebrating Christmas before the YETG replaced it?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,There were prayers for God to bless the wonderful EVM over everyone else which felt like forever. I swear to God these ass kissing sessions keep getting longer.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"We need to send these recorded ""lessons"" to people like James White so they can absolutely obliterate the nonsense, not to mention hopefully use their following and influence to garner some negative attention to this cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"Thanks for the very informative and detailed report, OP. That's a lot of work you did. I can just imagine your disgust having to attend and sit through cult events like this. Must be torture like it was for me when I was inside. Posts like yours make me more appreciative of having kicked this cult out of my life. I hope you will find your own opportunity to leave soon. Thanks again.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,10 minute and 14 minute prayer...JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. What happened to short and to the point. FUCK,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"Thank you for posting and sharing. Wow, these are great and I especially love your personal comments. I was inside for 20 years and I can't even imagine now to have to go through with all the bullshit. I'm so glad that I'm free. I feel for you. Take care.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"Damn. This be some very informative pagsamba review.
“Up next: top ten pagsamba of 2020!”",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"When he mentioned listing achievements, I was sitting there trying to figure out what they were referring to. I swear they try to count anything as an achievement. If EVM had a dog, picking up the dog's poop would be considered an achievement for the church in his eyes.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"In other words, another mind numbingly boring shyt.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"I think we've always called it that. However, I think they changed ""Mid-year Thanksgiving"" to ""Anniversary Thanksgiving"" within the past 5-10 years I think. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I know it's been something along that time span.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"Can't do that though.. saw that legalese text they show on the playbacks before the service begins? It says by watching it you agree that you can't share the contents of the stream yada yada...
Church of secrets.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,Dont waste the time of james white.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,Preparing and writing these reports helps pass the time and shows the true colors of this place! The feeling that tens of thousands (if not more) of people could have better spent nearly 2 hours apiece of their time is disgusting indeed. Not to mention the things that go on during this time. May the time come that this cult goes under so that its effects will finally cease!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"Apparently to these ministers, kissing up to EVM takes priority over short and simple",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,Glad you liked it and glad you’ve been free! Take care as well 💯,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"I would say the top ten would still be major trash, but that would be insulting to trash",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,Your correct,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 18 - Dec 21, 2020)",kfeei1,2020-12-17,"Thank you for taking the time to compile this. These types of post-reports, especially the verses, really helps to highlight just how little of the bible they actually read.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,"The title says why the INCult not celebrating christmas, again.
Lagak slip should be 100% starting this week.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,They emphasized that you should be increasing your “lagak” every year. Pure bs. More money for them.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,"Good lord, thanksgiving was just last week but they're already telling us to start our lagak for next year's as early as this weekend. Damn so much for subtlety in asking for abundant offerings.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,Shame people for celebrating a fake holiday that encourages people to spend time with family... right after celebrating a fake holiday that guilts people into giving money to Manalo.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,"I honestly do not remember the last time INC dissed Christmas, or any other religious holiday.
But then again, EVM shifted the cult focus from ""catholic sux"" to ""WORSHIP ME PEASANTS""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,"Lesson is about why INC is not celebrating xmas. The way INC celebrates the birth is through giving importance of Christ by staying at the church that he purchased.
Also lagak starts this weekend even without the deposit card yet.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,"I think Uncle Scrooze was an INC,humbug",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,"Was the lineup different for anyone else or is it just me? I didn’t catch what the first hymn was, but the next two hymns were 159 & 123 instead of 2 & 43, respectively
EDIT: First hymn was still 306 as originally planned",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,Wow I think i just witnessed a world record for shortest sermon ever. 10 MINUTES!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,Pretty bs excuse especially when they previously celebrated “Thanksgiving” on a Christmas day.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,Ill try to tell my mom about INC's history of celebrating christmas during FYM's time.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,Thanks for listening to the service so the rest of us don't have to. :),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,"Because for INC, it's better to die than to live in this world. But taking your own life is a sin, so keep living your life and give money abundantly at the same time because that's one way to make inc god very happy.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,INCult is just a Jesus user not a true believer.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,">Lesson is about why INC is not celebrating xmas.
INC loved saying that as if it's a notch under their belt. They will never admit that FYM-INC celebrated Christmas. They pushed that part of their history under the rug. I guess if one kept saying that it didn't happen, then they convinced themselves that it didn't.
And we know why they took Christmas because they want members to give their hard earned money instead of spending the money for themselves and to their families.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,"Wow that is short! I wonder why? 🙄 Maybe they ran out of words to stretch, ""value your membership, give offering offering, and offering.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,Maybe he realized how rubbish the lesson is and decided to blow through it or maybe he need to use the bathroom real bad. lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,Wow how did that happened? Lucky!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,"Lucky! Granted, my worker isn’t as bad as some of these ministers can get, but still, I’d love a 10 minute sermon.
Now if only EVM would only preach 10 minutes...or better yet, 10 seconds",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,My OWE family WS is over an hour. I walked into the area (I no longer attend) and had to retreat because it was still sermon at 5 minutes till.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,And exchange gifts at New Years!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,Is this forreal?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,SPOT ON!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,"I hope someone could post more pasugo (inc magazine) with Christmas content on them, overwhelming content and evidences that cult can't deny it anymore ( or at least the members will question it ). I told my mother about inc celebrating before and she looked at me like I'm too much and out of my mind lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,"Either that, or about suffering, staying in the church, or duty/obedience. Last week, 491 was an upbeat showtune about obedience: “I will hold onto the calling I received from God/Standing firmly in the faith no matter what may come.”",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,A part of me is saying this is true and we did this in our family but also I don't remember doing it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 22 - Dec 24, 2020)",khyczt,2020-12-21,My dad grew up in the 60s and said a lot of the members had Xmas trees and openly celebrated Christmas. He wasn't really sure what happened since he was a kid back but but he said he just remembers all of a sudden not celebrating it,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/khyczt/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_22_dec_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"What a shitty year-ender for a church service. Wow. They really went all out with the ""give us your money or you'll burn"" shenanigan. With the best cherry picked verses too. God. I was the person assigned to read the lesson today, and it was definitely a challenge to keep myself from laughing way too hard over how desperate the lesson was written LOL.
I have a copy of the lesson, would it be alright to post it here? I feel like its post-worthy, definitely can serve as a greater reminder on why we all disagree with the INC in the first place 🧐",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"This weekend's lesson is dedicated to ""lagak"" (weekly savings for 2021 YETG). 🥴 I mean the least they can do for the ending lesson would have some part about hope and courage for next year but hey they thought the best way for the brethren to welcome 2021 is with this mindset.
I envy those who are already out of this cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"Wow...this must have been the worst worship service I've ever attended. It was all about money and giving offering. It also mentioned that we shouldn't give crumpled or torn bills. They also said that the offering shouldn't come from any evil means like stealing (of course they'll take it anyways), but they fail to even mention taking out loans or borrowing money to use as offering. They even said that we should save our money for the year end with INC because it's safer. Safer in what way exactly?
It was such a disgusting lesson, I didn't even know how to react to this. I felt like I could switch out God for EVM in this lesson and it would still make sense.
God wants us to give abundantly and start to prepare for the year end Thanksgiving.
EVM wants us to give abundantly and start to prepare for the year end Thanksgiving.
I would have thought this lesson would have been about hope for the new year especially because it's the last weekend of the month which meant they get to sing their member anthem.
Can someone tell me where in the Bible it states that we need to save up for this year end Thanksgiving? Genuinely asking because I have a hard time recalling hearing any verses close to explaining that.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"Christmas WS 1st topic....Minister: we need to be ready for 2021 YETG....Me:😳...Minister: we do it by our offerings weekly on TC card...Me:🤣🤣🤣its not even Jan 01, 2021, yet we are talking about THE-BIGGEST-HAUL-SEASON of Manalo🤑🤑🤑...deym",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"The hymns for this WS were all very commonly played hymns (143; 50; 154; 247) as u/ppc633 mentioned. Yep, so basically, the lineup went, in reverse order, “Almighty Father, Kindly Help Me to Cleanse My Heart (and not be easily offended) and Be Ever True so that I can Offer (abundant) Thanksgiving To You, Father.”
Since this is the last weekend of the month and no PPV occurred, the “I Am A Member” hymn was also played. How long before EVM and the administration get mentioned in that hymn? Ah dang it I just gave them an idea.
* They say don’t offer grudgingly, but won’t that inevitably happen when you keep telling everyone to AbOuNd In YoUr OfFeRiNgS?
* They say not to offer damaged currency, but what’s the difference if it finds its way into the administration’s pockets anyway?
* I’m sure the administration doesn’t actually care how brethren earn their money; all the administration cares about is whether or not the money makes its way into their pockets.
* Of course, the Macedonians are mentioned again. As one user replied to my comment last week, did the Macedonians increase each year?
* Remember when the administration actually waited until January to start the F-9 collections?
* Apparently extortion and greed aren’t supposed to offend us.
* Today’s “lesson” is basically: https://youtu.be/TzTOaYaRIh4 (Peter Griffin plays a violin, invades a man’s personal space, and repeatedly says, “Gimme money gimme money...”).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"I believe that there are some horrible and overplayed hymns this weekend probably leading to a lesson to make us feel guilty. Maybe about obeying the admin and/or not marrying a nonmember and of course mentioning offerings. That is my guess. Glad I'm out of this mess and focusing on my family and musical duties, etc.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"God created the heaven, the stars and all the planets, God did not even ask for compensation or even a single centavo from us. Now the manalo inc cult is extorting us offering money because god will be very happy and grateful with your peso or dollar. The manalo inc cult administration who demands more money clearly is the one who wants your money. What the heck god will do with your money?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"I haven't attended this WS because I need a lil break on the repetitive twice a week WS it's very mentally draining for me tho. if i must say, the topic is quite interisting maybe annoying or such but it's a good documentation for how greedy the church admin is.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"Ang kakapal talaga ng mga mukha ng mga INCulto na 'to. Simula pa lang ng leksyon, tungkol na agad sa paglalagak. Huwag raw magbigay ng play money, wala ng value (lumang pera) o punit punit, lukot o kaya yung dinikit lang. Lol.
Hindi raw dinidiktahan. Sarili DAW ang nagdidikta. With the constant PAGPAPAALALA regarding with the lagak parang dinidiktahan mo na rin yung tao. Lol. Wtf.
ANDDDD. It's my very first time!!! My first time not putting my handog on the box. I feel guilty but i feel free. Lol. Thank you guys.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"(Fair Use) Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research
Household Worship Service Saturday/Sunday: December 26/27, 2020
IT IS AN UTTER DISRESPECT TO GOD TO GIVE HIM OFFERINGS THAT ARE NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH HIS WILL
Recently, we conducted our year-end Thanksgiving to God, during which we also brought our thank offerings. We firmly believe in what the Bible teaches that God is well-pleased with such offerings. That is why in our worship service now, we will start preparing our offerings for our Thanksgiving next year. For us to be able to save up prudently and to prepare carefully our offerings for the next Year-End Thanksgivingfor they are holy and consecrated for Godwe save and set them aside through the local congregation where we are registered.
In doing so, we are motivated by our understanding and faith that what we do is in accordance with God’s will. We want to please God and not anger Him; to glorify Him and not to disrespect or dishonor Him. So, let us not be like those who, although they were among God’s people and gave their offerings, committed an utter disrespect to God, instead of glorifying Him.
The kind of offering that is an utter disrespect to God and does not glorify Him is like what the ancient nation of Israel did. In God’s pronouncement in Malachi 1:6-7, it is clear that He was angry with the leaders of ancient Israel because they despised His Name, instead of honoring, respecting, and having reverent fear of Him. Instead of glorifying Him, they utterly disrespected Him.
So, God told them: “You offer defiled food on My altar.” They also gave offerings to God. However, God was not pleased with their offering and, instead, became angry with them because they offered defiled food. That was an utter disrespect to God.
During the time of the ancient nation of Israel, among the sacrifices that they offered were animals from their flock. In Malachi 1:8, God faulted them for offering sacrifices with defects—animals that are blind, lame, or sick—which even their govern or would neither be pleased with nor accept. Thus, it was an utter disrespect to God to offer to Him animals that even humans would not find acceptable. Such offerings are defiled and unacceptable to Him.
God is great, according to Malachi1:11, so a pure offering should be offered for His name.
That is the reason we completely and faithfully prepare our offerings or voluntary contributions. We set aside an amount from the blessings we receive from God. We do not offer to God merely what was left over from our expenses. And because of our high regard for the One to Whom we give or offer, we make it sure that we offer money that are presentable or in good condition.
Another kind of offering that is an utter disrespect to God is to offer “what has been taken by violence,”according to Malachi 1:13 (English Standard Version).In the Amplified Bible, the equivalent of that is “taken by robbery, ”and in the New King James Version, “stolen.” Offering something that came from illegal means is not pleasing to God. Such kind of offerings, along with those that have defects (such as offerings that were not prepared beforehand or money that are in poor condition),will not be accepted by God.
Thus, let us respond to the call of the Church Administration to completely renew our lives. Let us make sure that we earn our living through righteous means. Any amount obtained from illegal, unlawful, wicked, or corrupt meansfor example, that which is stolenare not pleasing to God. Rather, He considers such offerings as an utter disrespect to Him. Thus, we should have the right understanding of what giving is, what thank offerings are, and how we should give or offer. Psalm50:14says:Offer to God thanksgiving, And pay your vows to the Most High.
We should regard the giving of thank offerings to God as a holy or sacred thing. It is a vow or a solemn promise to the Lord. And according to Numbers30:2, when a person makes a vow to God, he binds his soul to an agreement. The strict instruction to anyone who makes a vow to God is, “He shall not break his word; he shall do according to all that proceeds out of his mouth. ”And according to Ecclesiastes5:4-5, “When you make a vow to God, do not delay to pay it ... Pay what you have vowed.” Before we were baptized in the Church Of Christ, one of the doctrines taught to us, which we must fulfill, is to render thanks giving to God with offerings.
We took an oath before God that we would fulfill it. We are not dictated on the amount to offer; instead, according to what our heart purposes, we ourselves decide on how much we will offer to God when we give thanks to Him.
Thus, let be devoted to fulfilling it. Let us imitate the devotion of the first-century Christians in preparing their Thanksgiving offerings to God. According to Second Corinthians 9:1-2 and 5, Achaia was ready for a whole year. Let us also prove to God that we value and are devoted to preparing our thank offerings. Let us prepare them for a whole year, “That it may be ready as a matter of generosity and not as a grudging obligation.”
Thus, we should save up weekly for our annual Thanksgiving by setting aside through the finance office in our local congregation. We should not delay or forsake it. Instead, we should give importance and fulfill it in accordance with God’s will.
This is what is taught in Second Corinthians9:7:So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.
The giving of offerings or voluntary contributions in accordance with God’s will can be done as follows: First, “let each one give.” Thus, all should give offerings. The number of brethren in a local congregation should also be the number of those who will give their offerings or voluntary contributions. Second, “give as he purposes in his heart.” Heart symbolizes love. Therefore, the giving of offerings or voluntary contributions should be motivated by love. One who loves God is not tight-fisted or does not feel as if it were a waste to offer. Third, “God loves a cheerful giver.”
Isn’t it that our happiness overflows when, in our Thanksgiving, we are able to give the amount that we have set on ourselves to give as our offering, according to what our heart purposes? Such a giver is the one whom God loves. Thus, let us be devoted to our duty to give offerings to God, even to our setting aside for our Year-End Thanksgiving. We will again do that to preparef or the Year-End Thanksgiving next year.
Before we pray,we will sing “I Am A Member Of The Church Of Christ”
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE BASED FROM THE LESSON OUTLINED BY
BROTHER GREG F. NONATO SATURDAY/SUNDAY: DECEMBER 26/27, 2020",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"So, when you offer and for some reason it is considered as ""unacceptable"" to God, where does it go? The admin still accepts the money isn't it? Lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,Sorry folks. I don't know if posting it will help in our discussion or ruin our whole year,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"[DEC 26/27, 2020 LESSON (Filipino ver.)](https://ibb.co/album/yfWyQt)
Here's the link to the digital ver. of the lesson. Hope this helps for archive purposes.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"I remember your post and again, I’m sorry about your breakup. It must’ve been hard but you both did what you had to do. Enjoy your Christmas with your family! You deserve it!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"I had almost the same story as you, but mine happen last year.
It was hard to put the cult culture into our lives. Bro. Things will be better.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,You only joined because of your ex girlfriend?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,I would like to see please,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,Please share,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"a copy please, thank you",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,Post it asap bro. Protect yourself and your privacy first.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,Can I also see it?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"Hello everyone, sorry for the response. There is a transcript of the church service now in this thread. I think I can give a digital copy for archive purposes as well.
Hope everyone is well!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,It takes a lot of courage to get out of the cult. Most part of me as a person is out of the cult. I don't care what they say and will say.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"Safer in a way that the members can refrain from spending it, since they've already given it the church.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"And apparently, I've heard earlier in the WS that God is displeased with ""soiled"" money (by ""soiled"" I mean filthy or crumpled money but still in an acceptable condition: without any tears or vandalism).
They really want that cold hard cash, it seems: literally and figuratively.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,Musical “duties”?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"Yep, obey the admin by singing crappy, overplayed “hymns” and giving your hard-earned money to some men who apparently can never have enough.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"They say that it will be used for the benefit of their ""God's"" church. And their God will be pleased if members help on the finances of the church.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"Voluntary daw at hindi tinatakdaan pero halos lahat naman ng mga leksyon, kung hindi man main topic, hindi puwedeng hindi nila mabanggit ang tungkol sa paghahandog.
(They say our offerings are voluntary and we are not dictated as to the amount we will give. But in each and every worship service, if the topic is not exactly about offerings, they don't fail to mention or make references to it.)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,Yeah we might feel guilty now brother but soon we will be free from it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"If I didn't spend all of my money for the YETG offering, I would gift you and award. lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,they use god to scare you and they use god to reward you. repeat twice a week. what a solid business model!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,thank you,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"INCULT will guilt (and threaten) the members to give more to be ""holy"" in the sight of their god, otherwise, they will end up in hell.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,Any defects makes it unacceptable. Defect can also be not giving or preparing enough. So would it be better not to gove at all?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,Hauling big chunks of money excites them!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,Good thing the play money that I offered in YETG is not soiled..,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"yes, their god is ruthless and quite picky....",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,Yes I'm an electronic musician. This is nothing to do with church.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"If the manalo inc cult administration needs money, the cult use god's name to ask and collect money from the fooled members... If the fooled members needs money due to hardship, the inc cult tells them to go pray and ask it from god.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"Galak sa puso, pero tungkulin.
Kapag tungkulin na di na nakakagalak sa puso tbh",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,She is stuck in this church (cult) and may never find any love due to the strict rules and fear they teach to their members. Just think of it how it was like before you met her.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"At least you know now what you were dealing with. It’s better late than never. You don’t want to be stuck in something you didn’t want to be a part of (INCult). May you live your life the way you want, Breezerpods.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,I failed to do due diligence myself and married. Be glad you walked before going further. I didn't join though. Refused. By the time she put the pressure on to join I had done a thorough examination of their so called doctrine. It is so easy to disprove any of it that it hurt to realize she would not listen and that I was stuck in a mess. Trying and hoping that some how it works out for the best.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,"The more, the merrier for them lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 25 - Dec 28, 2020)",kjtaqv,2020-12-24,Absolute madlad! 😆😆😆,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kjtaqv/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_25_dec_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,"I guess its about new year, new challenges in giving more offerings, facing new tests in life by also giving abounding offerings, be steadfast with your faith by giving offerings generously, never back down with your divine election by proving to god that a true servant always offer abundantly, demonstrate your love of god by obeying church administration whatever offerings they admonish. Whatever life's hardship worship service lessons that might be, it is always coined and ended up with offerings.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,I'm going to guess that it's about offerings again.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,"Lesson was about staying in the faith and that the end is near (no exagg on the near, the lesson just screams that it's REALLY near). I just really despise how the church promotes a superior and isolationist mentality just because they believe that they're the only ones that're gonna be saved (like that's even real lmao).
Got stuck in a prayer meeting yesterday too. 20 sob minutes of our locale's pastor just screaming out ""GOOOOOD"" and how they want more suffering. Smh, like that's gonna help anyone. The world literally suffers everyday. There's nothing new about it. These people do be taking everything as signs that the world's ending 🤷",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,The lesson was prepared by corruption icon himself - jun santos jr.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,"Anyone else get their regular service cancelled because it's new year's eve? I was forced into attending the early morning brainwashing because worshipping God is the most important thing a person can do.
...unless it's New Year's Eve, of course.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,"Was exited for new year and 2021. Was kinda expecting the lessons to be on a more positive side for once but nope! Its just a reminder that the world is terrible and 2021 will just get worse, doomsday and all! Sprinkled with a little propagation and dont leave INC. It killed my mood for a short while there.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,"Even in CWS, children are taught the three things they need to bring every worship service. The self, proper clothing and of course the most important: offerings. I was a former officer in CWS and that's what all guro/teachers tell to INC kids. Why can't you notice?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,"I wonder if you have become richer since you left the Church and never gave offerings anymore.
You confuse Thanksgiving to God with giving alms.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,Probably EGM,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,"Ah, Doom and gloom; the world is going to shit; hold on tight to your cult membership. Didn't see this coming at all.
After being bombarded with offering, offering offering for about 6 weeks, it's natural that this lesson comes up. It is part of the Iglesia Ni Cristo's 1-2 punch.
At least we were spared from Acts 20:28... We were... were we?!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,"They are not going to change at all, especially under this horrible leader.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,No doubt I became richer. Not even in peso but in dollars and the quality time I spent with my family. No more money offerings given to the cult's money bag during worship service. God doesn't need your offering money. What the heck god will do with your money? It is the inc cult admin needs it to support their vip lavish lifestyle.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,how many lessons this year did not involve 'voluntary' offerings?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,I became richer. No joke. I will pay off my parents house soon...even though they're still owes. I just hope they give credit to me and my hard work and not the charlatan known as EVM.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,"I think you need to pay close attention to the worship services. Notice how ministers put emphasis on offerings(the best times are during thanksgiving seasons). I don't think God is the one who is glorified about how the church coerced members to give more money despite the situation of the members. You see, even the unborn child needs to offer!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,"LMAO dude. Literally all my savings go to this church. I had to pay ~4k php total just bcus there was a quota to meet. Thanksgiving to God? Pfft. Excuses.
> I'm a student btw, and my only sources of savings are my pension and help from relatives. Nothing else. So, yeah. I feel like I'd have more savings now if it weren't for this... thing. 💅",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,I've made more money than I ever have AFTER I got expelled. So IDK what you are talking about,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,"Ministers always say
rich non-inc = ""the devil is feeding them worldly wealth, they dont care about their soul""
poor non-inc = ""they are not blessed because they are not inside the inc""
made up your mind and standards",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,"A LOT more financially stable since I left the cult. I don't even have to work under anyone anymore and still live comfortably. All this while starting from scratch without any help from my parents, nor some inherently evil deity. Your evil sky daddy is useless. Even more so your little cult.
On the other hand, my former guardian (OWE af), who inherited his parents' properties, have some of those properties pawned off to my parents. The cult certainly ain't helping him with his debt.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,"If they've confused giving Thanksgiving to god with alms, then why the hell does INC emphasize offering and the many donations so much? Do you cover your ears everytime the ministers bring that up almost every lesson?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 29 - Dec 31, 2020)",km7ddq,2020-12-28,"Yep probably one of those ""lessons"" written by former CEOs(Manalos)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/km7ddq/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_29_dec_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,"**Hymns**
* 237: officers’ prayer
* 207
* showtune-sounding hymn despite being an older tune
* 442 “Steadfast, We Will Stand On Your Love And Words”
* obedience/duty hymn
* 378 “The Sure And Strong Anchor Of Our Lives”
* 33
* ""LORD of compassion, Father of merc—"" oops, wrong lyrics
* 387 ""His Teachings are the Light"" (before text)
* obedience hymn
* 297: recessional
**Prayers**
||Total Length|Previous PPV|Time Spent for Christ|Previous PPV|Time Spent for Manalo|Previous PPV|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|Officers' Prayer|3:25|4:49|0:29 (14.1%)|0:34 (11.8%)|0:39 (19.0%)|0:50 (17.3%)|
|Opening Prayer|5:32|7:21|0:17 (4.8%)|0:40 (9.1%)|0:57 (16.2%)|?|
|Closing Prayer|9:25|14:25|0:08 (1.4%)|0:30 (3.5%)|?|?|
|Ordina-tion|4:11|N/A|0:22 (8.8%)|N/A|0:04 (1.6%)|N/A|
|Officers' Prayer|3:21|1:54|0:17 (8.5%)|0:09 (7.9%)|0:26 (12.9%)|0:11 (9.6%)|
|Totals|25:54 (26.4% of PPV)|28:29 (28.8% of PPV)|1:33 (6.0%)|1:53 (6.6%)|?|?|
Note that because of my inattentiveness during both this and the previous PPV, as well as the fact that I was with my parents last PPV, I did not catch how long the ministers spent praying for EVM wherever a ""?"" appears.
**Verses**
* Luke 17:26-30
* Luke 21:11, 27
* Ephesians 4:1
* Hebrews 12:13
* Romans 13:13
* Romans 12:2
* I Corinthians 10:13
* Hebrews 6:1
* Revelation 3:11
* Hebrews 10:32, 35-36
* Psalms 40:11-13
**Other Comments**
* Because I attended a full English PPV, I couldn't get the Tuloy Tally. u/carpeDM030 reports a count of 43 (Thank you!).
* The sermon lasted 55 min (previous was 53 min). The entire PPV lasted 1 hour, 38 min (previous was 1 hour, 39 min).
* This PPV included an ordination. EVM exhorts the young men to consider joining the ministry.
* ""No sexual sin of any kind/sexual immorality,"" yet how many ministers and officers continue doing this, thinking nobody knows (I could fill up numerous threads with examples of leadership hypocrisy...).
* Thankfully I attended this one alone in my room so I could type this up while EVM and his lackey prattle.
* Cue the obligatory mention of:
* congregations celebrating their anniversaries
* trials/worries
* earthquake count for a certain period
* ""It'S eViL tO gO oUt Of ThE cHuRcH.""
* ""people of the world""
* ""It'S eViL tO bE a CoWaRd.""
* ""these last days""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,"Again they use incorrect statistics to try to prove their point. They said other religions are unable to worship due to government restrictions and that we should be thankful that we're able to worship on WebEx. Wait what??? Other religions have moved their worship services online and do it better than the INC so stop trying to act like INC are the only ones capable of holding online worship services. Another statistic they try to assume is that all members are excited to go back to the chapel. I guarantee that not all members are OWE and not all members want to go back. I dread the day things return to normal and I can do without going back to that awful place full of judgmental individuals.
Other incorrect thoughts during this playback goes to the end is near part. They claim that there are more earthquakes happening per day, but that's completely false. We only have more advanced instruments that can measure these earthquakes, nothing has changed in the amount of seismic activity according to scientific publications. Do you really think the advancement of instruments for measuring seismic activity would halt? Science is always advancing forward.
He also talked about social media and misinformation. He said not to listen or trust everything you read online. He said that people who are gullible are children and they say INC members are the children of God so that must mean they're gullible? This is a tongue in cheek comment and I say it this way because that's how INC likes to twist words. Of course don't assume everything you read online is fact, you should ALWAYS do your own research and use multiple sources to verify the truth. That's why I don't believe or trust this church. I'm doing my own research and coming to that conclusion.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,"Tuloy Tally: 43
Pankinggan niyo Tally: 17
Ano pa Tally: 18",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,Ppv again?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,Another ppv from lord evm🙄.. blah blah dont commit sin...blah blah the end is near...read a few stories from noah's time and the great flood...and i stopped paying attention after that. Same shit different day. 2 fucking hours wasted AGAIN!. Ws to include newly ordained minions..i mean ministers..,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,Ppv is the platform to commit sin...why attend?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,Praying to copyright notice for 2 hours is tiring as fck,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,"The lesson file for the wsfh has come with new/ added security feature. I used to open it using firefox browser so i can avoid the embedded security of the pdf file and i can copy and paste it anywhere i want, but if i apply the same technique for the Jan 2/3 lesson, there are many sentences that cannot be copied and will not be appear aftdr pasting. I just noticed that.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,Thanks for listing the verses. I wanted to check one of their explanations about maturity because it seemed like they cherry picked another verse and used it out of context.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,Wow I respect the dedication!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,"Awesome comment, KadPresChoirSecTSV! Who needs to attend worship service at all when we can just read these which are much better?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,"I'm completely hyped up for the ""tuloy!"" count hahaha love the dedication! Atleast this is much interesting than listening to the bullshit they say hahahaha",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,Is this for real? lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,Keep listing this tally,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,"What else do you expect
Ofc it is.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,That seems to be a weekly event. I wonder why?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,2 hours of your life that you could never get back. What a waste!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,Take a screenshot then use scanning software to convert image text to regular editable text you can copy/paste.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 01 - Jan 04, 2021)",ko57xz,2020-12-31,"Every two to three weeks, although I imagine they are doing it this to celebrate new years and the first week of setting aside offerings to pay for the arena/jet/limos/dirt in South Dakota.
60 or so minutes of listening to sleep inducing preaching, and 25 minutes of repetitive prayer that probably violates Matthew chapter 6 verse 7. And they wonder why they can't get more people to join.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 05 - Jan 07, 2021)",kre52k,2021-01-05,"*Hymns*
* 323
* 86
* 137
* obedience/duty hymn
* 238
* Only those in the church (and even then that’s conditional) will be saved, so be true to your duty and embrace your membership and yada yada
* 30 (before text)
* The chorus is about the messenger even though right before that is the lyric, “I should serve only the Father/And His Son, our Lord Jesus Christ.”
* 425 (recessional)
* They pretty much took what was supposed to be the lineup for Jan. 3 and moved it to today. Funny enough, the lineup that was originally planned for today will be sung on Jan. 10
* Yup, overplayed, overrated hymns one after another today
*Sermon*
Supposedly, the Bible is the sole basis of the INC faith. However, as predictable, no explanation is given for INC practices that contradict the Bible such as:
* punishing parents because of their children (or vice versa)
* the idolatry of the administration and especially the messengers
* the way the INC interprets and implements Bible verses
* the rampant hypocrisy of ministers and officers
EDIT: I know this is extremely late, but the before text this WS was 30, not 130.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kre52k/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_05_jan_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 05 - Jan 07, 2021)",kre52k,2021-01-05,"Looks like they're banning sharing the home WS message on telegram, and is slowly switching to their own chat app. Someone's scared of their BS and constant yapping about ""lagak"" being shown to the world, or the blind sheep finally seeing the pattern.
This cult needs and deserves to fall.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kre52k/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_05_jan_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 05 - Jan 07, 2021)",kre52k,2021-01-05,WTF is this shit? They using bible study lessons as the sermon now hahah,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kre52k/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_05_jan_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 05 - Jan 07, 2021)",kre52k,2021-01-05,">punishing parents because of their children (or vice versa)
Technically, it's the Bible contradicting itself on this one. In the OT, God vanquished entire households because their heads questioned Moses, and the NT also lists the *ideal qualities of a church elder* (But if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for the church of God? **is written verbatim)**.
>the idolatry of the administration and especially the messengers
Blatant idolatry indeed. Notice that ever since EVM took the reins, specific anti Catholic lessons were actually dialed down?
>the way the INC interprets and implements Bible verses
Unfortunately, members are convinced that the INC's butchery of context is a legitimate understanding of its content. And by the word's dictionary definition, *broken interpretations are still interpretations.*
Hence, I prefer sniping INC on premises such as the true date of World War I. Bible interpretations can be challenged, but not established fact.
>the rampant hypocrisy of ministers and officers
While not all of them, religious conservatives really do have a tendency to be hypocritical *change my mind*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kre52k/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_05_jan_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 05 - Jan 07, 2021)",kre52k,2021-01-05,"What's their ""own chat app""?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kre52k/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_05_jan_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 05 - Jan 07, 2021)",kre52k,2021-01-05,"INC doesn't want the truth to come out but it's been leaking for many years now. They can try to hide but their lies (just like the garbage in the ocean) will always resurface.
>This cult needs and deserves to fall.
I couldn't agree with you more.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kre52k/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_05_jan_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 05 - Jan 07, 2021)",kre52k,2021-01-05,They're already falling. One of the good things to come out of this pandemic is how they are bleeding money because they couldn't use the PH Arena that they spent so much money on.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kre52k/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_05_jan_07/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 05 - Jan 07, 2021)",kre52k,2021-01-05,"This comment is approved, others are able to view it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kre52k/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_05_jan_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 05 - Jan 07, 2021)",kre52k,2021-01-05,"> This cult needs and deserves to fall.
Amen to that.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kre52k/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_05_jan_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 05 - Jan 07, 2021)",kre52k,2021-01-05,"It's actually a decent change of pace, and is likely intended as a nod to EGM on his birthday month. I digress, that part about the Last Days Bible made it more ridiculous than it already is. It's definitely a new detail in INC doctrine.
Still, it's problematic. At the end of the day, faith is a subjective construct, and how they explained the Bible's legitimacy over other holy books is one of the things that killed spirituality for me.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kre52k/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_05_jan_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 05 - Jan 07, 2021)",kre52k,2021-01-05,What was the topic?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kre52k/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_05_jan_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 05 - Jan 07, 2021)",kre52k,2021-01-05,"They did that in 2016 during the time I stopped attending to try and offset the repetitive lessons about the administration, the defenders and expelling members. It was a load of dung after that scandal. Shows you how the current administration really does not believe in God but only claims to.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kre52k/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_05_jan_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 05 - Jan 07, 2021)",kre52k,2021-01-05,"They call it INC Chat, they've been developing it for a while now. It's a pretty faulty app as far as I can tell, and perfectly fits their ""Church of Secrets"" motif.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kre52k/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_05_jan_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 05 - Jan 07, 2021)",kre52k,2021-01-05,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kre52k/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_05_jan_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 05 - Jan 07, 2021)",kre52k,2021-01-05,"Something is wrong with your reddit account, it is automatically removing your posts and you're profile link is non existent. Please create a new account and try to post again.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kre52k/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_05_jan_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"They keep calling Buddha a god, even if Buddhism itself tells us that Buddha is not a god. They keep misrepresenting other religions and their doctrines. Such arrogance from a cult whose foundation breaks with the truth about 1913 and the ""ends of the earth"" interpretation!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"Minister: it is unbiblical to have idols even as decoration in houses!!
EVM’s picture in the back of OWE’s webcam: why hello there",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"Leave it to INC to somehow be able to connect Creationism, Evolution, and the cosmos to the fucking *Lagak*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"**Hymns (& Comments)**
* 314
* refrain is basically, “Your grace can (supposedly) only be found in this church, so we’ll drag as many people as we can to this place!”
* 141
* obedience/duty hymn
* 134
* refrain is about duty
* 100
* Can you guess the theme of this hymn? Not helping is the use of “constantly,” which for some reason has plagued many hymns since 2012/13
* 272 (before text)
* Last line is “I will remain, till the end, in Your Church.” Because why wouldn’t they do that?
* 425 (recessional)
* Those vocals with those instrumentals? [sarcastic scoff]
* Yep, another day of overplayed hymns
**Verses**
* John 17:1, 3
* I Corinthians 8:5-6
* Isaiah 45:21
* John 4:24
* Luke 24:39
* Acts 17:29
* John 4:23
* Matthew 6:9-10
* Hebrews 13:15
* Romans 1:19-20
* Genesis 17:1
* Psalms 19:1-4
* Job 12:7-10
* Hebrews 3:4
* Isaiah 45:18
* Psalms 100:2-3
* I John 2:3
* Psalms 95:6-7 [Is he almost done yet? Sigh...]
* II Thessalonians 1:8-9
* Psalms 128:1-2 [Finally he’s done. For now]
**Other Comments/Notes**
* Kindergarten time! What is 1+1+1? [Repeat for a solid minute or 2]
* Non-trinitarian, non-idolatry lesson
* The only trinity INC does recognize is: the messenger, the administration, and our holy offerings
* Time to get rid of the EVM portraits/statues! If/when the administration asks why you did that, use their own verses against them!
* My minister rhetorically asks how stars are supposedly “right next to each other.” This is why you fact-check and peer review, kids!
* The more the days elapse, the more I just want to duct tape preacher guy’s lips. Or at least text him to hurry up already...
* Are ministers & head deacons required to pray for EVM & the administration? Will someone report them if they don’t?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"just had one true God, holy trinity, smack talking and the usuals...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"I just listened to the first part before dozing off to sleep, but from the time I listened I heard it's about talking smack and shit on the Catholic Trinity doctrine, and how Jesus is not god but rather God's son. Don't know the rest tho",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"How hypocritical was this worship service? I loved when the minister said that it is against the bible to use any artifacts of idolatry in our home even as decoration and he paused as if questioning all the pictures of EVM they sell to us and have us put in our home.
Minister went on a rant about how large space is quoting NASA and then said its impossible that it is a result of earthly processes so it must be God. Wtf lol. That just sounds so stupid and the minister sounds dumb. It’s like saying something isn’t real because you don’t understand it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"They kept using the everyday definition of the word ""theory"" (which is just a guess). In scientific parlance, theories have enough data/research supporting it that it's accepted as true. The lesson showed their scientific illiteracy.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"One of the best parts from our minister was talking about gravity. He said you can't see it but your ""believe"" in it like God. Just the wording they use is so aggravating. Also, finding a house in the woods not knowing who built it but you know a person made it. It is akin to the Galaxy. We didn't see it built but you know God did it. Ugh.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,Minister telling about how large the universe is basically is the most interesting part of the WS in months... until he uses it to justify that God must have created it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"134 I Deeply Meditate. Trying to be showy with an emotional tune and title. I'm sure that rather joyful sounding 100 brought some to tears followed by the wailing Almighty father introduction to the prayer. Those hymns are fairly common and are part of the regulars. But the real common (2nd, 3rd or 4th) hymns that set the standard are 7, 41, 47, 50, 54, 63, 71 86, 100, 102, 116, 137, 154, 157, 165, 186, 214, 238, 247, 248, 249, 268, 278, 279, 284 as they are guaranteed to be played more than once in a year despite the hundreds of songs, some rarely (like 20, 29 or 188) if ever get sung.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"Great...some times I wonder if they'll ever stop bashing the Catholic Church or other religions in general, but I doubt it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"I remember a past WS talking about that same exact thing. According to the other comments, they're going to talk about idolatry AGAIN too. JFC, the definition of insanity 😩.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"Not just scientific but also logic, history and ethics.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,That is also how they teach it in NEU. Never really understood theories because of them until I have done actual academic research.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,They've been incorrectly using terms for so long. They probably believe they're using it correctly since no one has corrected them. You can't correct them either since you'd need to correct EVM in that case since it all comes from him so that's kind of a moot point.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,">our minister was talking about gravity. He said you can't see it but your ""believe"" in it like God.
Now that just pathetic. They really need to work on their vocabulary and to read about the real world and science.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"Judging by the old Tagalog hymnal that was posted, 134 used to have a different tune. I used a sheet music program to replicate the old score (dated 9/5/10), and I’d say it’s not as showy as the current one. Apparently it sounded too much like a hymn from another denomination (I can somewhat hear it), so the music dept. took it out for a while before bringing it back as an entirely new, more showy tune.
As for 100, I’d probably (not a guarantee) appreciate it more if it still had the pre-2012 older lyrics, which were more emotional. Maybe the old hymns should just be forgotten about entirely so all may see the “church” for its true dismal reality.
(Funny enough, I never sang the 2012/13 version of 100 because my minister at the time liked standing on the 3rd hymn, so by the time my locale got to sing 100 again, it changed a 2nd time, but I digress.)
I guess I never will understand why certain hymns dominate the lineups while others literally never get picked. I don’t remember ever singing 66; 108; or 174; among others. In addition to the ones you mentioned, others that haven’t been touched in literal ages include 11; 120; and 206 (and that’s not even counting the offertory, recessional, or “special” hymns that intentionally disappear for a good while between uses or after the month elapses). Makes me wonder why they’re even there, or, if ever they do get picked, what might happen to them before then.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,I don’t think they should be quoting NASA if they don’t believe in the other things NASA believe in (like the Big Bang theory) lol. Like always they pick and choose,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,You can't expect much from those without a scientific background or desire to even learn.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,I wonder what hymns are left that are from other religions still. I also wonder what hymns are just bits and pieces of other hymns because they're not capable of creating good sounding music.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"As for other religions, the endings of many hymns (such as 71 [“My Journey in This Life”] and 97 [“Always Call upon Our Father”]) sound like the ending to the Christian Doxology (“Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow”), which from what I heard used to be the old INC Doxology. Funny enough, both those hymns (which are both available on YouTube) also sound like the ending to “Can You Feel the Love Tonight?” Someone in my region pointed out that one of the newer hymns (442) sounds like *The Land Before Time*. I’m sure there are others lingering, whether just a few measures or entire hymns, which just might explain why certain hymns are never played nowadays.
71: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uNlWuno2-Q4
97: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7afeSXXbRjw
Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ACLEoDoX5ho
ADDENDUM: The verse of hymn 29 sounds a lot like the second half to the verse of 73, which confused me a lot when I was younger. Lo and behold, they were inevitably played as preludes during the same WS. Being a choir member and having access to (most of) the sheet music, I noticed that, with the way many hymns are “written,” you can sing the lyrics from one hymn (say, 103) to the instrumentals of another (for example, 189) and the switch is seamless. For the musically inclined, both 103 & 189 are in the time signature of 3/4 and have basically the same rhythm (anacrusis of 3 8th notes, dotted quarter, 3 more 8th notes, another dotted quarter, another 3 8th notes, half note, quarter, dotted quarter) and roughly the same tempo (low-mid 70s). I feel like the composers just moved the keys around (103 is Eb; 189 is F) and hoped no one would notice.
(Extremely late) EDIT: a word",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 09 - Jan 12, 2021)",ktjesf,2021-01-08,"I actually don't mind hymn 97, it is a nice tune. I think under the current leadership there is certainly a preference to certain songs. Oh yes, thanks for mentioning 71 (2014 rewrite) as well, another common one indeed (along with 54, 154, 157). But 29 Glorious The Holy City, never sung it, ever during my time in the church and only heard it during the preludes. I would not be surprised if it was never sung at all since mid 2016, meanwhile 50 has probably been sung 50 times. The Doxology the most commonly played song, hundreds of times of course.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ktjesf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_09_jan_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 13 - Jan 15, 2021)",kw8h7n,2021-01-12,"This week’s lesson ~~for those who wandered off to someplace nice like me~~ was about attending the WS in church lol and of course, skipping it will automatically condemn you to hell.
Take note that Jesus aka EVM doesn’t take any kind of lame excuses. If you’re at your death bed, you should still try to attend or else, you’re dead lmfao",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kw8h7n/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_13_jan_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 13 - Jan 15, 2021)",kw8h7n,2021-01-12,"**Hymns**
* 61
* 54
* WS is important, so don’t forsake it!
* 279
* Back-to-back hymns about the WS
* 276
* 179 (before text)
* Last part of refrain is about never leaving INC, but staying true to it
* 425 (recessional)
**Verses Read**
* John 4:23
* Worker mentions Acts 20:28 (Just because you can doesn’t mean you should!)
* Psalms 95:6-7
* Psalms 5:7
* I’m pretty sure he only read this to guilt trip us into attending at the chapel in spite of, you know, a *global pandemic*
* Quick plug for the administration, saying they supposedly approved of WS from home
* I Cor. 14:26, 15
* Whoever outlined these verses accidentally hit the shuffle button and deleted 24 verses
* Hebrews 10:25
* Acts 20:7
* mention of the 1st century church
* mention of how they gathered the 1st day of the week
* mentions they used to preach until midnight in an attempt to justify ministers who preach extensively
* Acts 2:46
* This is their attempt at answering the question of why we worship 2x a week
* Another mention of the administration
* Matthew 18:19
* Another attempt at justifying the administration’s authority in implementing a 2nd day of worship
* Deuteronomy 12:5
* If you’re looking for a new job or even a vacation, best do it a place where there’s a chapel
* Hebrews 10:25-27
* Never, under any circumstance, miss the WS, or else!
* Luke 9:59-62
* LeT tHe DeAd BuRy ThEiR oWn DeAd.
* Matthew 18:20
* Galatians 4:6
* Ephesians 3:16-18
Edit: bullet",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kw8h7n/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_13_jan_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 13 - Jan 15, 2021)",kw8h7n,2021-01-12,"Acts 20:28 Lamsa
Should say enough.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kw8h7n/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_13_jan_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 13 - Jan 15, 2021)",kw8h7n,2021-01-12,Another repetitive topic🙄🙄,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kw8h7n/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_13_jan_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 13 - Jan 15, 2021)",kw8h7n,2021-01-12,The lessons just reminded me that I'm still in prison.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kw8h7n/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_13_jan_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 13 - Jan 15, 2021)",kw8h7n,2021-01-12,What puzzles me is that they are discouraging the members to accept or apply jobs in a place/country where there are no Worship services but then they always boasts about how the church are scattered everywhere in the world. I wonder if the members really followed this then INC will only be exclusive in the Philippines. And only filipinos will be saved 🤔,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kw8h7n/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_13_jan_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 13 - Jan 15, 2021)",kw8h7n,2021-01-12,"Acts 20:7-12 NIV
On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight. There were many lamps in the upstairs room where we were meeting. Seated in a window was a young man named Eutychus, who was sinking into a deep sleep as Paul talked on and on. When he was sound asleep, he fell to the ground from the third story and was picked up dead. Paul went down, threw himself on the young man and put his arms around him. “Don’t be alarmed,” he said. “He’s alive!” Then he went upstairs again and broke bread and ate. After talking until daylight, he left. The people took the young man home alive and were greatly comforted.
They were not having worship service but breaking bread or eating together with simplicity. That is when Paul decide to talk till Midnight and Euthycus fell of the window and almost died. Shame on Paul for talking too long and too late when people should be sleeping.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kw8h7n/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_13_jan_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 13 - Jan 15, 2021)",kw8h7n,2021-01-12,Its really nuts seeing all these new members wake up.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kw8h7n/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_13_jan_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 13 - Jan 15, 2021)",kw8h7n,2021-01-12,You've done what I wanted to look up. We should make a habit out of this for every worship service. The actual context of the verses they're reading and how it's not close to what they're representing it as.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kw8h7n/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_13_jan_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 13 - Jan 15, 2021)",kw8h7n,2021-01-12,">When he was sound asleep, he fell to the ground from the third story and was picked up dead.
Holy fck I remember the ministers using this as an example frequently as to why we should not sleep during the service. I never questioned this until now that you provided the whole context, which INC obviously omitted. So many things are hidden in those cherry-picked verses. Damn",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kw8h7n/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_13_jan_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 13 - Jan 15, 2021)",kw8h7n,2021-01-12,"They seem to miss the detail that the young man was not sitting perfectly upright and uptight. He was basically lounging about, as were likely all the rest. To mention this and then make any claim that you have to sit in an uncomfortable chair looking awake and all proper glosses past the reality",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kw8h7n/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_13_jan_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 13 - Jan 15, 2021)",kw8h7n,2021-01-12,INCult cherry picking made me flag/remember this verse really well. That’s why when I saw it in the lineup (BTW I don’t go to WS anymore) I had to share the true context. I love Paul but he sure was acting like a prick that evening. Ministers are channeling the egotistical side of Paul when they talk on and on.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kw8h7n/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_13_jan_15/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"""The Administration"" and tala updating or else you wont be save...apparently, the tala(registration where you will have to thumb mark) in Inc is wirelessly connected to a so called Libro ng Buhay(Book of Life) in heaven...whoever is not listed there, well, you all knows whats next...
aside from the First Time travel, they also invented the principle of wireless connection...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"I cannot fathom the lesson for this ws. I've heard ""pamamahala"" multiple times in the entire lesson.
Edit: Prepare yourselves to hear it. It's about the administration. Ang pagsunod sa namamahala ay pagsunod din sa Diyos. 😰",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,They even mentioned a requirement to convert 6 people per family the disgust,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"**Lineup**
* 283
* 2
* 142
* 199
* 110
* 425
**Sermon Outline**
* TOPICS: Remain in the church registry; obey and submit to the administration
* Hebrews 13:17
* submit to the authority of the administration
* Colossians 1:25
* God placed the administration
* 1 Corinthians 16:15-16
* submit to the Lord’s people
* Matthew 18:18
* bind in Earth -> bind in heaven
* Proverbs 3:3, 1 (ministerial worker says “3 to 1”)
* don’t forget God’s commandments
* Mark 16:15-16
* propagation verse
* believe lest ye be condemned
* Acts 16:14
* We get it: obey the administration. Can we get to the closing prayer already?
* Daniel 12:1
* be in the book of life (aka the church registry) so you can possibly be saved
* Revelation 20:12, 15
* Be in the book of life or it’s H-E-double hockey stick for you!
* Matthew 18:18 [REPEAT]
* 1 Corinthians 5:12-13
* God judges those outside the church, so expel the ones who don’t submit to the holier than thou church administration
* I Timothy 1:19-20
* Hymenaeus & Alexander were delivered to Satan, so watch out!
* John 15:7
* ask and ye shall receive (but only if you remain in the ~~church administration~~ Lord)
* John 15:5
* He is the vine; we are the branches
* of course propagation would be mentioned here
* John 15:9-10
* yet another (blind) obedience verse
* Matthew 18:18 [Yet again, only in another translation that my worker conveniently forgot to mention]
* Matthew 24:13
* But He who endures til the end ~~may or may not~~ shall be saved
* Somewhat off-topic, but does anyone’s minister/worker still announce the last verse? My worker doesn’t; the previous one would, but would then prattle for 10 minutes more often than not.
EDITS: formatting the headers & second-level bullets",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,Just like that filipino cult to make propagation a challenge . Wasn't it back in 2013 we had to the same challenge? We even had to sign a form as a pledge on how many we promise to convert. It was all concocted for the 100 year celebration of the cult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,Still planning on how I'd skip the ws tomorrow.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,Is it another video streaming?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,uhmm.. may I ask something... about those students who were planning to be a BEM?? (Ministro??) idk what's the term pero what are the qualifications for it? thanks for responding,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,The amount of how the minister said the word pasakop(submit) is unreal. I tried to count it but I felt asleep on 16th and not even at half the lesson.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"Everyday the Manalo Salvation Empire thinks of innovative ways to keep it's members trapped inside the cult, first the time travel now the wireless connection designated to... surprise surprise, guilt trip members into staying",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"I teared my transfer paper so gracefully, I know God will not even need this paper stuff in heaven",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"6? They'd be lucky to get 1! All new members are mostly the children born from members, then those poor souls that are dating and want to marry members.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,Can confirm. Heard that their target number of converts for 2021 matches the number of converts from the past 10 years combined. Insane.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,do you know what happen if a family is not able to convert?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"Wtf, they really have zero shame",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,Calling it now the other INC (small remnant?) church will say it's 666 (Baal) lol.. by the way do we hate the small remnant members too?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"Oh yes, how many times have I heard this lesson. Hebrews 13:17, 1 Cor 5:13, etc. EVM at his finest. His signature sermon outline. I remember after the scandal I always heard this lesson and it is not the last time you will hear it. Revelation 21:8 was surprisingly missing.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"I honestly just look elsewhere and listen to my podcasts during the lessons. That way, I'd actually learn something instead of getting angry from the inanity of it all.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,No ws on our part. But my mf mother said i should still go to church because I am an adult not a senior.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,Just say youre sick,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,nope,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,I remember them also mentioning a height requirement lol. Was it taller than 5’5”? Not sure how enforced that is but seemed a bit funny and superficial,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"single, never been married
atleast a highschool graduate
both parents or guardian is INC",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,youre out now? CONGRATULATIONS then!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"They use those poor souls who dated then converted in their INC stories. We'll see non-Filipino members interviewing, but you'll then see that the spouse is Filipino which makes it easy to see why they converted in the first place.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,You’ll go to hell lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"It's because they're desperate and the need to cover up their lies that their memberships are NOT growing. They need to make up for all the members who left and for all those they know or suspect that are going to leave. A silver lining to the pandemic and they are going to keep pushing the ante with guilt and shame to multiply their census, or whatever names they're calling it these days.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"The administration must’ve decided to teach this 104x a year (105 in some years) because they want their jobs to be joyful, not burdensome (not to mention entrap as many people as they can entrap). The more people wake up, the more their jobs get jeopardized. I’m sure Rev. 21:8 will pop up numerous times in the near future to compensate its absence this WS",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,In our locale a guy wasn’t accepted because he had a long face lol what is up with that,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"yes, there is definitely a height requirement. I know someone who settled for being a CWS teacher instead",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,Until when they are allowed to have relationship? sila pa rin ba mamimili at the end of the day?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,good one 😂😂😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"No doubt they're trying to make up those numbers and they're being super aggressive with it. My guess is that they're giving a high number to try to get those who actually try and care to hit those numbers. It'll even out for them in the end and they might get the numbers they want. I'm interested to see the rate at which converts leave once they're aware to the nature of this church. I don't see many staying who aren't in a relationship and those that are leave once they break up. I've seen so many of those in my locale, it's pretty laughable.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"What's wrong with having a long face?
I've seen minions with non-long faces and they're beyond help in the looks department.
Some places in the west would consider such requirements to be discriminatory and liable to litigation.
Typical Iglesia Ni Cristo - what else is new.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,"they're not allowed to enter a relationship until they graduate. As for mamimili, it's up to them but the parents of the girl must be INC or else there's a high chance that EVM won't allow their marriage.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 16 - Jan 19, 2021)",kybh4h,2021-01-15,They do make exceptions for those married that want to join the ministry.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kybh4h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_16_jan_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 20 - Jan 22, 2021)",l1171p,2021-01-19,"Our living and dining rooms aren't separated so I overheard their WS while I was having dinner. If I remember correctly, they attacked the Protestants that insist you'll be saved just by accepting Jesus Christ and said you'd still need to join the INCult to guarantee your salvation. Same old INCult, makes me regret listening in to their lesson instead of enjoying some VTubers on my tablet.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l1171p/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_20_jan_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 20 - Jan 22, 2021)",l1171p,2021-01-19,"Based on the past theme and also last year's theme around this time, it's going to be another ""Don't Leave the Church"" lesson.
I'm going to guess a little sprinkling of Acts 20:28.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l1171p/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_20_jan_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 20 - Jan 22, 2021)",l1171p,2021-01-19,"Not all religions serve God, dunno, I was really wandering off to someplace better. Cherry picked verses on how we should rightfully serve God lol what a bunch of hypocrites",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l1171p/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_20_jan_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 20 - Jan 22, 2021)",l1171p,2021-01-19,"The minister was talking about how other religions do not follow God's commandments.
Then he brought up ""penance"" and ""self-whipping"" as examples of practices that are ungodly. Other examples included the death of Uzzah as examples that ""we should follow precisely what God tells us"".
Skip a bit forward, the minister then finally says ""if a person is not in the Church, that is unfortunate, for not everyone will be saved"".
Honestly the most insensitive thing to hear. As if it's not absolutely horrible and existentially dreadful to exist just to be condemned to burn for all eternity just because you're not 100% devoted to this obscure religious organization that has been accused of threats, censorship, lying, abuse, trauma, and borderline cultist behavior. And the only thing you can say to that is ""how unfortunate, but not everyone will be saved"".
Sorry needed to get that out of my system.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l1171p/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_20_jan_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 20 - Jan 22, 2021)",l1171p,2021-01-19,"**Hymns**
* 162
* 106
* 128
* 246
* For those who don’t know, this is one of INC’s attempts at an emotional-sounding tune, with lyrics that attempt to tell the worshiper not to leave INC, but to remain in his/her duty. Surely this must be (one of) the administration’s favorite hymn(s)
* 205
* 425
* These hymns were originally planned for the previous midweek. Although I’m not sure why they keep pushing back these lineups, I have a hunch it’s because I posted the lineup before it got deleted.
**Verses**
* MAIN IDEA: Not all religions are of God.
* Matthew 7:21-23 (break after 21)
* Matthew 15:9
* Colossians 2:22-23
* Leviticus 10:1-2
* II Samuel 6:6-7
* Numbers 4:15
* I John 2:3
* I John 5:3
* James 2:14, 17, 22 (break after each verse)
* Matthew 7:21
* Ephesians 1:9-10
* Ephesians 1:22-23
* Acts 20:28 (Lamsa)
* Hebrews 9:14
* Ephesians 4:4
EDIT: Trying to format headers",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l1171p/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_20_jan_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 20 - Jan 22, 2021)",l1171p,2021-01-19,Lol Korone reacts to INC would be fitting,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l1171p/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_20_jan_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 20 - Jan 22, 2021)",l1171p,2021-01-19,"You guessed it right, they mentioned Acts 20:28 (Do you ever see them use anything other than LAMSA?). Lmao",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l1171p/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_20_jan_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 20 - Jan 22, 2021)",l1171p,2021-01-19,"For Acts 20:28, they only use Lamsa because any other correctly translated version of the Bible has “church of God” rather than “church of Christ” like in Lamsa. That’s why they use it, even though it is not the most reliable of Bible translations.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l1171p/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_20_jan_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 20 - Jan 22, 2021)",l1171p,2021-01-19,George Lamsa died in 1975. why george lamsa did not join the manalo inc cult when he was still alive if the inc cult is the true church to be saved according to his lamsa bible???????,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l1171p/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_20_jan_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 20 - Jan 22, 2021)",l1171p,2021-01-19,Very good point. Can INC answer that? (The answer is probably not.),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l1171p/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_20_jan_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 20 - Jan 22, 2021)",l1171p,2021-01-19,Also another fun tidbit: Lamsa believes that JC = god. Ooops the cult would like to have a word with him!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l1171p/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_20_jan_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"Legit no one listens to these hateful lessons anymore. I get so many texts during service of people being bored, even from my friends who are normally committed to church. Especially TSVs who have been performing for hours already.
INC has really trapped themselves from expanding forever. Their claim that their lessons and beliefs don’t change won’t work in future generations and even now. As we can see in this world, everything must be able to adapt. So enjoy your time now INC because it won’t last to 150 years. Eventually, even if it’s over my dead body, INC will fall and it will be like it never existed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"**Hymns**
* 181 (Officers’ Prayer)
* 313
* 227
* obedience/submission/stay in the INC hymn
* 76
* 2nd stanza is about duty
* To this day, I still don’t understand the (over)use of the word “constantly” in many hymns. Something about it just doesn’t flow correctly.
* 132
* 224 (Before Sermon)
* 425 (Recessional)
**Verses/Other Source Material**
* Luke 12:32
* The flock started out little.
* Ministerial worker mentions how INC is (supposedly) in 160 countries & territories.
* Acts 20:28
* I don’t think this one needs explanation.
* Worker failed to mention the translation.
* Acts 6:7
* Word of God spread; # of disciples multiplied.
* Romans 16:4, 16
* Church reached Gentile regions.
* “The Churches of Christ” greet you.
* Matthew 24:4, 11
* Make sure no one deceives you.
* Many false prophets appeared, deceived many people.
* I Timothy 4:1, 3
* In latter times, some will depart from the faith and follow things taught by demons
* Forbidding to marry and abstaining from eating meat
* *Historical Dictionary of Catholicism*, p. 91
* Catholic Church forbids marriage after ordination
* Supposedly ministers aren’t trying to bash the religion.
* *The Code of Canon Law*, p. 173
* Abstinence from meat is observed on all Fridays unless [I didn’t catch this part] and Ash Wednesday.
* Worker still claims he’s “not trying to bash any religion.”
* Matthew 7:15
* Beware of wolves in sheep’s clothing (aka false prophets).
* John 1:29
* Apparently the wolves from the previously mentioned verse are imitating Christ.
* *The Mass*, p. 84-85
* Priest is supposedly imitating Jesus Christ when he wears a special uniform.
* Revelation 13:16
* Those who were led astray have a mark on right hand/forehead.
* *The Catechism Explained*
* Mention of the mark of the cross on those who were led astray.
* Revelation 14:9-11
* If anyone worships the beast and receives his mark, he shall drink the wine of the wrath of God, etc. etc. (This felt like way longer than 3 verses.).
* Acts 20:29
* Savage wolves would come among you, not sparing the flock.
* Matthew 24:9
* Acts 20:25, 37-38
* II Timothy 4:6-8
* *The Catholic Church*, p. 167-168
* Heretics were tortured/killed.
* Worker cites a website; I didn’t catch this one.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"Just translate for me please.
Yung lesson for this worship service ay kung bakit ang kinagisnan nating relihiyon ay Catholic at hindi ang Iglesia ni Cristo.
Another lesson that cannot uplift you spiritually. 🥱",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"To all the INC lurkers here,
Just because Catholicism sucks, doesn't mean INC is good either. They're just the same! Please expand your minds.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"Truth be told, after all these EVM worshipping lessons, this EGM grade Catholic bullshiting is a... refreshing change of pace. Of course, as an awakened individual the cult's logical inconsistencies against the RCC now stick out like a sore thumb.
The Inquisition is an admittedly dark stain on the Vatican's history, and is one of the reasons why I personally find no solace in spirituality. The premise that drove the Inquisition is alluded to by the Bible, and it is also what pushes militant INC members to do unsavory deeds. However, what INC fails to mention is that the Inquisition targeted what the RCC considered as paganic and apostatic, which included (but is not limited to) ""witches"", Protestant precursors, as well as other splinter groups that arose from the Catholic Church. Unless INC acknowledges itself as a Protestant sect, Central has no historical leverage to consider itself or its believers as a victim of the Papal Inquisition.
Hell, Pope John Paul II's admission of those evils is actually a good thing. I don't see any of the Manalo leaders publicly taking responsibility for the evils INC had instigated throughout the years.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"What's surprising for this week's midweek WS is our ""tarheta board""...
LITERALLY A WHOLE GRUPO IN OUR PUROK GOT WASHED OUT AND ONLY ONE MEMBER WAS LEFT THERE HAHAHAHAH
AND A GRUPO WAS LEFT WITH ROUGHLY 50% OF IT'S ORIGINAL MEMBERS...
Hmmmm, makes you think about the 6 fruits per household eh?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"One of the officers messaged me that there’s an announcement to take down the posts about bearing 6 fruits. I was like I didn’t even post anything. Also, why would I post such thing? LOL",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"Time to place my guess.
It's going to be another ""Don't leave the INC"" and sprinkle of ""Intensive Propagation"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,INCult shaking the Catholic tree for fruits that may fall to the ground.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,Just your another episode of catholic sucks INC ftw,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"Funny this minister tried(really tried to be convincing) to throw shade to the Catholics. You read one Catholic article, why don't you tell them how many inc members are mentally damaged, hurt by their parents, suicidal and broke because of inc. Count me in.
Btw Catholics killed millions. (Spaniards in Europe) But also remember the good stuff Catholics did, Catholics shaped my society. You can still see the influence. Insurance, traditions, schools, universities, art, etc.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"Hearing the lesson about the Catholic church admitted on having their own members killed and saying it’s a worst thing they did lol
Ummm hello? The INCult administration continues to threaten the lives of those ministers in Canada even if they found safe refuge there, also those who exposed the truth and reality of what this cult is. Lest we forget the lives of some ex-members that were killed by a sudden mysterious shoot out. Even EVM’s family was not safe from this.
Always pointing fingers when they’re at fault as well. So tired of this narrative.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"i havent seen PPV mention here lately, is EVM alright?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,can I ask question .. where I can find the blog of William smith .. (increflections )bigla kasi syang nawala sa social media I admire his writings .. baka kasi nalipat lang o nag iba ng name,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"Ah yes, compare the 2000 year old Catholic Church that has lived through the dark age to a new cult. Hey look at this pope apologising for the murders the Catholics did in the past, don't mind the more recent murders that the INC has committed.
They're basically calling Catholics murderers, how is this even allowed lmao.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,I don’t think the Catholics ever mention puny INCult in their WS. It is not a WS if you are bashing another religion.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,yowww this just proves that everything they teach are scripted because that's what was taught when I attended the early morning WS lololololol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,Thank you for always putting these up.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"translation: the lesson in todays worseshit service is the reason why the catholic church is the religion that we were born into or got accustomed to. something like that.
obviously only filipinos in the philipines can relate. but they are not a philipinow churtz!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,They really have a hard on for Catholic-bashing huh,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"omg same we went to WS tonight, which is the last time slot. our group in tarheta board has, like, 10 women members, and only 3 of them attended; all are members of my family lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,The only reason why I would be looking forward to going back to the chapel is to see how empty the tarheta board is after the enlightenment.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,What why would they want to remove that? It is also advertising for the Manalo.inc,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/exIglesiaNiCristo) if you have any questions or concerns.*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,INC always going for the low-hanging fruits lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"INC hitmen are a real thing. If you know any elderly members, ask them and they'll tell you it was definitely real during their time. It probably is still a thing now based on what you mentioned.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"I'm sure EVM is fine. I haven't heard any news that he kicked the bucket.
As for PPV, who cares! Seriously, all of their lessons have been consistently mind numbingly boring crap over and over. The only difference is that EVM has his little side kick next to him.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"I hope we continue not to have PPVs, seeing that they’re 2x the length of the usual WS and are extremely repetitive and full of filler (even moreso than the non-PPVs). I think I speak for everyone (except maybe the hardcore OWEs) when I say we’ve had far more PPVs than we could ever want",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"He is on vacation. Savoring the money collected from yetgo, while supply lasts, because this 2021 the collectibles is projected to decrease",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,Not so sure now about PPV - the password is inc1914 which usually indicates a PPV but logged on now and there isn't the usual bullshit singing that normally proceeds a PPV,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,PPV this weekend. Maybe not mentioning it so they can get an excuse to miss it !!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,Lol what is westernized supposed to mean? Critical thinking? As opposed to what?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"Yes, this includes avoidance to reading any criticism towards INC particularly in the internet",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,WS = Worthless Service!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"If any other religion were to do this with INC's Pasugos, they would just cry foul and try to make them stop anyway they can.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"Basically, they all have to teach the same thing even down to the jokes and side comments.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,You’re welcome! 😁 Anything to help pass the time and spread the actual truth about the INC-sanctioned “truth”!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,Posts about bearing 6 fruits are being shared in Facebook as a meme.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,The 6 fruits per household.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"Yep, my late grandma told me this. She said her husband, my late grandpa, was even recruited to be one of them during EGM’s regime. It’s an open-secret but it’s really scary how they **think** they can evade laws, well, at least in the PH but we know how corrupt this country is so
I used to question why would ***the*** God’s messenger needs that much security during pastoral visits, I’m sure God would protect him, right? Well, now we know better",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"i was just wondering, there was a time that it was almost every week, maybe he finally realized that the members (at least the trapped ones) are tired of him",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,for your sake i hope so too,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,i dont doubt it even for a moment ☺,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,oh no did i jinx you guys?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"We must be like North Korean citizens and be submissive and obey the Church Administration without question. I remember a minister used to talk about the INC members not being blind followers, but in reality these kinds of actions make you that. I always say that questioning is not going against a belief or even trying to rebel, it's to gain a better understanding.
I also repeat that hymn whenever INC get really defensive when you question. Everyone sing along, ""Are you easily offended? Do you harbor hurt inside?""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,Part of me hopes all of that would happen so that the INC could showcase its own hypocrisy in its purest form,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,"I remember in late 2013/early 2014 when I attended a weekend WS, the minister joked about the number of islands in the Philippines compared to the number during high tide. The very next WS, I attended in a different locale and heard that exact same joke (Granted the 2 locales in question were in the same district.). Not to mention that many/most* ministers have similar senses of humor. I guess the reason they do this is to highlight the theme of unity within the INC.
*The remaining ministers here are the no-nonsense ministers or the godsends that speedread through their lessons with few to no jokes.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,They’re sharing a new post on ig 😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,Gaslighting in song form.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 27 - Jan 29, 2021)",l5vuko,2021-01-26,That's why we should reach out to our elderly INC members and ask for those old Pasugos.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"**Hymns & My Comments**
* 280 (Officers' Prayer)
* 252
* Refrain is about duty when it wasn't like that before 2012/13.
* And no, I'm still not used to this one being played 1st (not counting the officers' prayer hymn).
* 157
* Is there even a point in asking for the old lyrics? At least the newer, poorly-written ones show the true colors of this ""church.""
* 216
* Life before INC (for those who were ""converted"") = bad. Life in INC = good. Obedience = good. Or at least that's what the hymn is trying to communicate.
* 113
* Submission/obedience hymn.
* There's even the end of 1st refrain: ""Correct my thoughts and my desires/Create in me a righteous heart.""
* Then the 2nd refrain: ""Renew my zeal, increase my faith.""
* 35 (Before Sermon)
* 1st verse claims we can't understand the scripture by ourselves.
* 2nd verse tries to trap the worshiper in the 'church.'
* Refrain is about...you guessed it!...the last messenger.
* ""I Am A Member Of The Church Of Christ""
* 425 (Recessional)
**Sermon**
* Catholic Church Bashing, Part [Help! I Lost Count!]
* Exodus 20:3-5
* Have no other gods before me; no idols/images.
* I am a jealous God. What happened to being kind and benevolent?
* ""punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me"" (NIV). What happened to, ""Every man shall be put to death for his own sin"" (Deuteronomy 24:16)?
* Romans 1:23, 25
* changed glory of uncorruptible God into corruptible image
* exchange truth of God for a lie
* worship/serve creature instead of Creator. (And worshiping/serving EVM is acceptable, required even?)
* *Catechism of the Catholic Church*
* This is what the INC will use to claim the Catholic church is justifying its ""idolatry,"" completely neglecting to ""justify"" its own reverence of the administration.
* *The Catholic Dictionary*, p. 290
* The mass is a time when the Catholics offer Christ again (and again) even though Christ died only once.
* Hebrews 7:27
* Christ died once and for all for our sins.
* Hebrews 10:10-11
* The same sacrifices can never take away sins.
* *Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church*, p. 72-73
* mention of the communion, likening it to the Last Supper
* Matthew 26:26-28
* Apparently this verse is how you're supposed to do ""(Un)Holy Supper""
* *The Code of Canon Law*, p. 135
* Only bread is given; the priest drinks everything.
* Worker throws in a dig of the priest's supposed drunkenness by service's end.
* Deuteronomy 12:32 (mention)
* Don't change the bible (unless you're part of the administration).
* Hebrews 7:24-25
* Christ has permanent priesthood.
* Hebrews 13:8
* Christ is the same forever.
* Psalms 32:5
* I acknowledge my sin to You.
* I will confess to the Lord.
* Ministerial worker uses this to condemn confessions to priests.
* I Timothy 2:5
* One God and one Mediator
* *The Intercession of the Saints*
* Jesus is the only Mediator
* However, a person can ask the intercession of those in heaven
* Psalms 88:5
* Slain lie in grave, remembered no more.
* Job 14:10, 12
* Man dies, lain away.
* Does not rise until heavens are no more.
* II Peter 3:10, 7 (mention)
* Earth and heaven will burn on judgment day.
* Ecclesiastes 9:5-6
* Dead have no more reward, memory.
* Matthew 25:31-41
* There is no ""purgatory"".
* Sheep to the right: they will be blest.
* Goats to the left: condemnation aplenty for you!
* **EDIT**: My worker did not say the book, chapter, or verses before reading the selection, so I quickly Googled what he said to figure it out. I dozed off midway into the reading, so I am not sure if he completed the chapter (verses 31-46) or stopped at a certain point.
**Other comments**
* My worker claims INC homes have no images. What about all those Manalo portraits?
* Worker guy says partaking in mass will only add to your sins. Is he sure he isn't bashing the Catholics?
* ""We're not here to make anyone mad,"" the worker says while doing just that in a Manalo-approved method.
**EDIT** (again): removed a double “of”",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"Again! WTF. I feel like we get lessons like this because INC is afraid to lose members to the Catholic Church or the members that converted from Catholicism will return.
If your religion is so great and true, you don’t need to talk bad of other religions. Lessons like this make me feel like I’m in a Calculus class being taught by the janitor- makes no sense! I’m supposedly here for your religion but yet you teach about other religions. EVM must be compensating for something with these constant attacks on other religions.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"They are talking to a wall. They always have a mouthful to say about Catholics but I never heard a Catholic priest give the slightest hint of reaction. In all honesty, the Catholic circle I'm in is more concerned about members going to CCF and Victory. Both have non-denominational and Megachurch status in PH, and both are rapidly gaining traction. There are a lot of millennials too esp the young professionals. INC has a lot of competitors than they think.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,Wuhoo! Another INC vs Catholic lesson. The lesson itself took approximate 45 mins in physical WS. 🥱🥱🥱,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"Okay, this sermon frustrates me.
* The Catholics are called out for apologizing for things such as the Spanish Inquisition which was committed *hundreds of years ago* by powerful Catholic autocrats. Yet, the INC deliberately ignores the fallout of ka Eduardo's actions in 2015 which was committed *almost 6 years ago*.
* The Catholics are then called out for esteeming saints as representatives of the faith. Yet INC has emphasized over and over again that the executive ministers and the Church Administration are all completely representative of God's will, period.
* The INC then concludes that Catholics are the product of demons and apostasy for *the same freakin' reasons* *that the INC can be guilty of*.
If you completely demonize others who are not like you, and then on top of that you claim that you're not ""bashing"", or ""unfairly criticizing"" them, that is straight up **LYING AND BEING IN DENIAL**. For crying out loud.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"Lemme make a guess.
Acts 20:28 (LAMSA)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,">with a very boring, trite and noncurrent lesson about the Catholic Church as the apostate Church of Christ
Filosofo Tacio of Edge's blog, why are you insulting the latest WS lesson? This is not an EVM- or offering-centric homily by any means, this is directly derived from the **Fundamental Beliefs EGM himself wrote.**
context: see INC From The Edge's latest post. That EGM fanatic of a blogger censored all exINC content, I might as well call them out here.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"Lesson was ""Catholics are wrong...no line in the Bible that they should kneel and pray to a portrait""...again,for the 1000x...i'll see again this lesson with full of hate next month",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"The inc cult teaches that the catholic is the devil's church who persecuted the first christ's church but yet adhere to believe the bible which the catholic pope damasus 1 had authored/compiled in the 4th century. Their inc cult reasoning is that god guarded the catholic bible writers when they wrote the bible to be error free. God told the catholic bible scholars/writers what to write. Who said who? According to the bible itself, as it was written by the catholic bible writers as explained by the minister during inc cult indoctrination....Seriously?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"I wonder what Fallen Angels have to say about the recent lessons. Bullshitting the Catholics isn't original to EVM-era leadership in the INC.
*Fuck the Catholics* is EGM's *Obey and Never Complain.*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"the catholic church hating is so repetitive, even our destinado is sleeping the whole sermon in tribuna lmaooo",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"I feel like all these Catholic bashing worship service is completely outdated. First off, they're out of touch with people outside the church. Not everyone is Catholic and these lessons appear to make it out that way.
Also, as someone born in the church, I have no idea how Catholics conduct their own services except whatever I'm fed by the INC. And I'm sure they cherry pick and twist words too to describe the Catholic faith.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,This Catholic Church bashing is getting old. Can't they come up of new materials? It's like eating the same meal every day. I'm not a member anymore and I can't even imagine sitting and listening to this garbage.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,Is it video streaming?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,This is impressive. Thank you for sharing 🎉🌻,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"Hymn 252 (late EGM era to 2012) was one of my favorites before they changed the lyrics. And now they play it first. It is so different now, especially after scandal. 216 is a joyful sounding tune about how my life changed when I joined the Church of Christ, they really try to impress in a bad way.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,Why is it INC can't defend their doctrines without destroying the Catholic Church whom they treated as an itch in their crotch. Their obsession is destroying their fragile credibility which resulted them appearing like a bunch of clowns throwing tantrums.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"I always wonder where the ""worship service"" part comes into play during these ""lessons"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,">If you completely demonize others who are not like you, and then on top of that you claim that you're not ""bashing"", or ""unfairly criticizing"" them, that is straight up LYING AND BEING IN DENIAL. For crying out loud.
Exactly and we all understand that but it's puzzling that they can't seem to understand what they just spouted off. It's really strange to me because they can't see themselves or unable to comprehend what they've done or what they're currently doing. I don't know, I feel a headache coming.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,Several times no doubt,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,We should start tallying at this point. They always use that same verse from the same translation.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,INKers are wrong...no line in the Bible that they should keep portraits of the INK trinity aka FYM/EGM/EVM in their homes.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"YOU DISRESPECTFUL HEATHEN GOD SOMETIMES USES NONBELIEVERS TO DO HIS HOLY WILL
Just kidding. But seriously, I'm surprised no one has ever tried telling a minister that ""what if the 2015 scandal and the rise of the exINC movement is your god's way of saying that Felix Manalo was a fraud""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"That and the fact that alot of the lessons have nothing to do with your inner spirit and life experiences. Its just a broken record of the things they want from the members Offerings, abiding to the assministration, and evm is God.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"They are suffering a membership shortage, and bashing Catholics helped the build the church numbers years ago. I suppose that is why they are trying now.
Of course, the catholic church doesn't really care, the INC bothers them about as much as a single flea bothers a large dog.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"you feel ashamed? then do not attend , you idiot.. go out of the church",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,Nope!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"I once asked that question because our former locale had photos of the three (FYM, EGM, EVM) and I got a dummy lame excuse response that they were placed there in the chapel as some sort of decorative items.
Yeah whatever 🙄",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"It used to confuse me why they act the way they do. Then it struck me that it is actually better that way. Their ways are repelling which is good to keep people away from their church, to stay away and desperately want to be away. They should keep it up.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,Oh wow this is surely on another level!!! 😶😶😶,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,Acts 20:28 Tally! I like it!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,Unholy Trinity,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,I never understood this! I thought we’re not supposed to worship idols and such.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,They always resort to the test/trial falacy. That all these that happened in inc are just only a test to determine how steadfast your faith is. Hold on tight bretheren! Your blindness should not be shaken.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,">YOU DISRESPECTFUL HEATHEN GOD SOMETIMES USES NONBELIEVERS TO DO HIS HOLY WILL
Ironically, the only reason they are able to respond with this claim is because they have the Bible (which is the thing in question lmao). They wouldn't even ***know*** if ""God sometimes uses nonbelievers to do his holy will"" if they (INC) didn't have the Bible, which came into existence through the dogmatic pronouncements of the Church in the 4th-7th centuries. You can't explain or justify how something came to be by using/referring to the final product **(anachronism)**.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"Please do not engage in personal attacks or trolling. Disagreement is fine, but stay civil. Do not intentionally try to provoke a negative reaction out of someone.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/exIglesiaNiCristo) if you have any questions or concerns.*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,It's in every minister's office and they make it a point to show EVM's picture behind them on their webcams whenever possible.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,they wont let them make their own choice of beliefs,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,Definitely.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"An intentional test of loyalty is not the mark of a good individual, but of a narcissist *sigh*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,It's all a test if it goes against the INC and a sign if it's for the INC.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,">You can't explain or justify how something came to be by using/referring to the final product (anachronism)
Lmao tell this to them",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 30 - Feb 02, 2021)",l8d95r,2021-01-29,"Yet, they say they do not worship idols. 🙄 evm's face is beyond a graven image, it's down right disgusting.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l8d95r/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_30_feb_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"**Hymns**
* 52 (Officers’ Prayer)
* 317
* This one is all about the prophecy God (supposedly) made that this “church” would spread
* 77
* Another prophecy hymn with a mention of the messenger
* 268
* Yay! Back-to-back messenger hymns!
* 88
* 79 (Before Sermon)
* 298 (Recessional)
* Only His children (aka the ones trapped in this place) hear His voice
* Mention of the worship service at the end of each stanza and also in the refrain in an attempt to keep people trapped
* 3rd stanza frightens the worshiper into not “return[ing] to darkness anymore, lest [s/he] be cast away and meet destruction with the world].”
* This lineup was originally planned for Jan. 28 (except with a different officers prayer). After the originally scheduled lineup for January, two new sets were added (one for Jan. 3 and another for Jan. 17) while the other sets moved back to the next WS (The ones after Jan. 17 moved back 2 WSes.). For some reason, the prayer hymns/officers’ prayer hymns remained in place and never shifted with the other hymns in their respective lineups.
* Tl; dr: The head honchoes changed the lineup after it was originally distributed. I’m pretty sure it has something to do with a “dEtRaCtOr” (aka me) posting the lineup here
*Sermon details to follow*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"They love to use the ***timezone defense*** for having July 27,1914 as the start of WWI when in reality, it’s July 28,1914.
Historians are shookt.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"Meh, they mentioned in the WS again that July 27, 1914 is the start of WW1. 🤢",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"Oh god ""there's no iglesia ni manalo in the bible, og iglesia ni cristo"" i wanted to laugh. And ofc our glorious god-emperor of mankind, his holiness, his majesty, eddie fatboi manalo is going to do another one of those uhhhh webex shit. I guess he wanted to let his slaves know that he still exists.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"Ah, falsely equating establishment to registration all over again. No mentions of 1913. No mentions of FYM's authority to preach as a messenger.
I almost laughed when they mentioned July 27 as the start of World War I. They painstakingly picked out external references that support their allusions regarding the Far East and the Far West but nothing on WWI? Not even the book with the typo, or the one with the opinion of a journalist? Damn, they know that this sub has them exposed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"Acts 2:39 is one of the turning point verses for me that made me realize how INCult misuses the Bible.
Acts 2:39 NIV (How INCult splice and dice this verse to be self serving interpretation/prophecy)
(a) The promise is for you (Jews correct so far)
(b) and your children (Gentiles according to INCult. I told the minister one time that kids of Jews are also called Jews or if you want kiddie Jews, baby Jews or Jewettes but not Gentiles)
(c)and for all who are far off —for all whom the Lord our God will call.” (Insert INCult from afar according to INC only.)
With simply reading the whole chapter 2 in context even from a literary standpoint one can conclude that the “far off” folks pertains to the non Jews or the Gentiles as they are fondly called then before the word Christians was coined. It was after all during Pentecost, a Jewish holiday then, when the event of Peter’s speech/declaration happened.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"The lesson is about ""Jesus Christ built Iglesia ni Cristo in the Philippines through a prophecy"". Well in which, is FYM.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"**Sermon**
* Apostasy of the First Century Church of Christ
* Church would reemerge in ThEsE lAsT dAyS
* John 10:16
* Other sheep I have not of this fold
* One flock & one Shepard
* Acts 20:28 (surprise surprise)
* My worker no longer mentions the translations of any verse
* Acts 2:39
* Promise to you, your children, all who are afar off
* As many as the LORD God will call
* Romans 9:24
* Not of Jews only but also Gentiles
* Isaiah 43:5
* From the far East will I bring your offspring
* And from the far West I will gather you
* *International Security in the US*, p. 614
* Philippines is the only Christian country in the far East
* I thought INC only taught the words of God, not words of man *confused emoji goes here*
* Isaiah 59:19
* fear the name of the LORD from the West
* Repeat Isaiah 43:5
* I'm sure he'll move to another translation if he reads verse 6
* newworldencyclopedia.org
* AK, HI, OR, WA, CA are all part of the far West
* Isaiah 43:5-6
* Matthew 24:3
* Disciples ask Jesus when Judgment will occur
* Matthew 24:33
* When you see these things, know the end is near
* Matthew 24:6-7
* wars, rumors of wars, all must come to pass
* nation vs. nation, kingdom vs. kingdom, etc., etc.
* Repeat John 10:16
* Luke 10:16
* He who hears you hears Me.
* He who rejects you rejects Me and He who sent Me.
* John 13:20
* He who receives any messenger (hmm...I wonder why the admin picked this verse) of mine receives Me
* Matthew 7:24-25
* EDIT: Late but be like the wise man who built his house on the rock, as it didn’t collapse during the storm
* Acts 4:10-11
* Jesus is the cornerstone
* Matthew 16:18
* On this rock I will build my Church
* The power of death shall not overtake it
* Isaiah 43:6
* I will say to the North ""Give them up!"" and to the South, ""Do not hold them back.""
* Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth
* Romans 8:16-17
* We are children/heirs of God
**Other Comments**
* Supposedly 100+ different nationalities comprise INC, but how many have only a small handful of believers?
* Of course the date of July 27, 1914, is mentioned, even though:
* FYM began preaching in 1913.
* WWI broke out on July 28, 1914. Soooo close yet soooo far...
* Is it just me, or are there more verses and non-Biblical sources read recently?
* If I had a nickel for every time my worker said, ""ThEsE lAsT dAyS""...
* My worker point-blank states FYM is not the founder of INC, but Jesus is.
EDIT: Word",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"I had a few thoughts I wanted to get out of my head.
INC determines far east based on a modern map of the world, but if we were to just move the map then you can change what is actually the far east. When EGM went to Hawaii, did he travel all the way west to reach the far west or did he travel east? He traveled east to get to Hawaii so shouldn't far east and west be relative to the location of the verse described in the Bible?
Also, a prophecy fulfilled by EGM traveling to Hawaii is a little ridiculous. No one is preventing him from traveling and making a local. If you read a prophecy and you try to fulfill it, it doesn't mean that you are the fulfillment of said prophecy.
I'm just thinking out loud based on this mid-week's lesson.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"Hey so, while preaching the minister mentioned the ""ends of the earth"" part in the sermon, and he said something along the lines of ""the 'ends of the earth' is the end times, because in the original Greek language... it means 'time', not 'place'"".
Is there really anything that says this is true?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,Even if a detractor did not post the line-up I still think they would have made the changes probably due to the playbacks. The playbacks have ruined everything. Shows you how much of a mess it has become over the last few years.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"but in PH timezone, July 28 in Europe would be equivalent to July 28 or even the 29th? How are they spinning it?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"As others pointed out, that’s not how the time zones work.
But okay, INC. Since you have proven that you’re not good at understanding time zones (which is simple math), how can you be so sure you understand the Bible, which is interpreted every which way in both a metaphorical sense and literal sense, debated upon, the basis of multiple Abrahamic religions and organizations as a result of these interpretations, and more?
Any smart INC members out there reading this? Please **do the math**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"They Inkulto really takes cue from **Josef Göbbels'** words, and I quote:
#""If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. ""
**This is why there's still a sizable mob of sheeple who mindlessly believe THE LIES OF FELIKS**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"True! After discovering that July 28 is the correct start date for WW1, I noticed that they dont cite any references to support that! Imagine having to believe that and then you will find out it is not true? Nakakagalit!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,">they know that this sub has them exposed
if you are reading this, trawling this sub, and all the easily-verifiable evidence-based dismantling of INC's claims and teachings by the people of this sub still doesn't convince you that the INC is not the 'true church' as they claim, or worse, **in spite of**, then you are complicit in the heresy, the fraud, the corruption and the deception and manipulation of the poor souls you call you brother, sister, kapatid.
Shame on you.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,A prophecy......... in the Old Testament......... that makes zero allusions to Jesus or Christianity whatsoever,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,Isaiah 43:5-6 for sure.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,Acts 20:28 for definite also,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,u/warrior_tash is seething right now,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,Typical lesson and expect the same next next midweek.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"This is actually a solid point I never thought of. The 'west' is slang term for western civilization, a term that was coined by europeans in relation to their surroundings. INC saying they went to the west means they established their business in western civilization, it has nothing to do with actually moving west. Especially since America let alone hawaii is a branch off of western civilization. Hell, hawaii can even be considered an extension of the east
INC conflates west as in western civilization and physically going west in the bible.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"> because in the original Greek language
that's funny. Ask him what Acts 20:28 says in the original Greek language",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"No, what verse?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"They ignore any counter argument. Pretend it doesn't exist. Kind of like how they ignore the argument that ends of the earth refers to geography, not time.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"Hey I believe in this quote. We need to reverse it on them. Start telling everyone to
#StopOffering",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"They used to cite (dubious) sources. But seriously, ever since this sub began talking about WWI they stopped citing anything entirely.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,Indeed,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"To be fair, it's going to take more than that to make them question. The INC programs its followers to ignore just about anything negative from external sources, which is also fueled by the fact that Filipino culture places religious preachers in very high esteem.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"As much as I’d like to think I’m related to reasonable, logical people, once they come across anything that goes against INC-approved “facts”, they just ignore them all because INC teaches its members that those facts could be falsified and unverified. Though it doesn’t always work, they need to be shown proof and evidence of INC contradicting itself through INC’s own words, beliefs, doctrines, as it might have a better (if not much) impact.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02, You got it!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,One point! You got it!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,Tell me 'bout it *rolls eyes*,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"I think OP is referring to one of their fav verses: Isaiah 43:5-6
""*Do not be afraid, for I am with you; I will bring your children from the east and gather you from the west. I will say to the north, \`Give them up!' and to the south, \`Do not hold them back.'* ***Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth***\-- """,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,They also argue that ends of the earth refers to geography *and* time. How would you respond to that?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,hahaha thats right,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,the fact that a two second google search on WW1 isnt enough to convince them makes me frustrated. Frustrated and angry,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,One of their fave verses indeed but nothing will top the Lamsa version of Acts 20:28.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"I would ask them to provide proof that ends of the earth ever refers to time and not Geography. So far, they haven't.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"Harapang panloloko sa mga bulag na miyembro, haha",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,Lamsa version published later than the date FYM had a revelation...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 03 - Feb 05, 2021)",lbf07o,2021-02-02,"Lamsa not used by FYM, only EGM onwards.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lbf07o/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_03_feb_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"As u/ExINCman calls it (see [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/99nbi6/what_does_a_typical_inc_service_look_like/e4p0bd0?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)), it's time for the Epic Manalo TV Show! Welcome to episode...uh, does anyone know? I lost count...in 2016. Anyhoo, here's a basic, informal outline:
* 30 minutes before the hour, hymn 200 is sung. Following that is the officers' prayer, this one lasting about 6 minutes. Of course, Manalo is mentioned extensively throughout the ""prayer.""
* A single prelude plays (I forgot which one it is) before the ""hymns"" are sung. In order:
* 310
* 500: ""The Only Proper Response as the LORD'S True Chosen Ones""
* 402: ""There Will Never Be Room For Doubt""
* I think those titles speak for themselves. \*rolls eyes\*
* 132
* We stand up and endure another 6 minute prayer. Can you guess who gets a good chuck of this prayer? Also mentioned is an ordination, which means an extra prayer after the so-called ""closing"" prayer.
* The before sermon hymn is 398, titled ""Hold Onto The Words Of God""
* This hymn has the lyric ""always obey"" and mentions the Administration (Capital ""A"" of course!). EDIT: The Messenger is also mentioned. \*rolls eyes again\*
* 4 minutes before the top of the hour and Manalo starts his lecture, as always starting with locale anniversaries.
* Since this PPV includes an ordination, Manalo exhorts the other young males in attendance to consider joining the ministry.
* The following verses are read (and unless I'm mistaken, no translations were ever mentioned \[I wonder why\]):
* Psalms 31:10
* Psalms 13:2
* Zephaniah 1:17
* Psalms 42:11
* Isaiah 40:31
* II Corinthians 12:9–10
* Deuteronomy 31:8
* II Corinthians 10:12
* Philippians 4:12–13
* John 16:33
* I Peter 5:10, 7
* Some of Manalo's comments can be paraphrased as:
* Don't be sad or depressed, because those are bad.
* Flinching and cowardice, likewise, are bad.
* Social media and the Internet are bad (unless you're using them to ~~trick~~ convert people!). You should instead approach your officers and ministers, for they are approachable, even when they're not.
* ""Put (y)our hope in the grace that will be (y)ours,"" in case you somehow haven't heard it 1,048,576 times by now.
* Brethren, I pray for \[spiel goes here\].
* Manalo's sermon wraps up 10 minutes before the top of the next hour, for a sermon length of 54 minutes.
* During those 54 minutes, I count 42 instances of ""TuLoY!"" or about a ""TuLoY!"" every minute and 18 seconds.
* The post-lesson prayer spans about 7 minutes. You-know-who is prayed for once again.
* Granted it's not as long as some of the previous closing/post-lesson prayers were (I'm looking at you, minister who prayed 14 minutes \[and 25 seconds\] last Year-End Thanksgiving!), but...can't they keep it at 5 minutes or shorter? Or is that really asking for too much?
* The brethren are seated, and we watch a snippet of the ordination. Hymn 165 plays in the background.
* Don't get too comfortable! Please stand for a 5 minute prayer (give or take), of which Manalo gets...I don't know exactly how much, but it's still too much!
* Thankfully this segues to the doxology and benediction.
* Now we take a breather and sit while the recessional, hymn 425, plays.
* After a \~2 minute officers' prayer (Do I even need to say who gets mentioned here?), and 7 minutes after the top of the hour, the PPV finally ends, clocking in at 1 hour and 37 minutes, or about a minute shorter than last PPV's 1 hour and 38 minutes.
* The prayers total to roughly 26 minutes, roughly the same as last PPV.
**Other Comments**
* Manalo's reader always looks irritated (or is it just me?). I'd be irritated too if I were interrupted every 2 or 3 seconds.
* As you can see, I'm experimenting with a new layout. If you prefer my previous layout, or you have other suggestions, please let me know and I'll see what I can do! :D
EDIT: typos",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"i just came home from WS today, and i wasn't prepared for that. i was staring daggers at EVM on tv while he's speaking all these crap about depression. he just indirectly said that i was molested and raped by 3 different adult men when i was around 7 to 9 years old, because God has punished me for my sins. that my trauma which caused me depression is just a ""test"" and i should still continue to go to church or ask church officers for their advice. i cannot believe i sat there the whole sermon with tears in my eyes. Not because i can feel any god's presence, but because i've never felt so angry my whole life that i'm whispering fuck yous under my face mask. fuck yous to their cruel god or to the manipulative EVM. maybe both.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"Observations:
1. Prayer after singing of hymns, prayer after the lecture, prayer after the laying of hands for the ministers, prayer after the worship service (officers prayer): EVM and church administration over and over again. Especially on the first prayer. Like, it took around 1.5 mins.. it's all about him. And there is no more prayer for Jesus. Or is my observation wrong?
2. Talks about the causes of sadness, one of which is because of our sins that's why we are experiencing His wrath.
3. This is gold. He said something like the it's bad to compare ourselves to others (?). Like if we have problems, we should seek the officers/ministers in the church, and pray to God. Rather than seeking answers to internet/social media. And I was like waiting if he will mention about reddit.
4. For OWEs, it seems like this is more of ""pagpapalakas ng kaluluwa"" or strengthening our faith.. but I still couldn't feel it. Less of propagation, less of offerings (i mean he didn't mention much about it) but yeah, more of worship services, because this is the way we can strengthen our faith more.
5. I just feel drowsy throughout the entire sermon though. 🥱",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"As someone's who's been dealing with suicidal thoughts for years, this bullshit made me want to pull his hair out.
My comment's gonna focus on the stuff aside from his depression talk.
Near the beginning of the lesson, he listed common problems people face such as unemployment, school struggles, family death, etc. It was so fucking obvious that he did this so the leather-clad gimps would relate / think of themselves and therefore listen closely and follow his words.
He tells people to pray to God instead of doing things to actually fix their problems. Something something, making your own solutions doesn't work, pray to God so he can fix it for you. I always hated this kind of thinking.
He said people are imbued with God's power or something during WS. If that's true then why do I keep falling asleep during it?
He also brought up Pope Paul (Saint Paul? Pope Paul?), saying that even though he was poor and couldn't eat and all that shit, he still had true bliss because he was with God. This is definitely targeting the poor members. ""So what if you don't have any fucking money? True happiness is attained from being in the INC.""
Then they prayed three times at the end. Overkill.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"Every prayer there's a mention of EVM.... even alongside the prayer for offerings. The prayer after sermon, half of it is all about EVM and his family.. WTF it's all about EVM!! 🙄🙄",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"[The Iglesia ni Manalo Executive Freeloader Eddie boy Manaloko just said depression is god's way of punishing your sins and that you must join INC so you will be ""cured"" of depression](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldlqte/eduardo_manaloko_has_really_done_it_now/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"""Sinners get depressed because god is punishing them""
I'm surprised EVM isn't seeing a shrink.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"For the first time in a while, I didn't fall asleep during the sermon. Instead I was fuming with anger, EVM talking about depression has an effect on me like that
I would love to rant about this sermon but searching the sub, there's already a thread up for that so nevermind then. But EVM is so wrong about depression it's not even funny. What's worse is this reinforces the Filipino boomer mentality that depression doesn't exist. News flash EVM, depression != sadness. And depression is neither a punishment for your sins nor due to a lack of faith.
I dare someone to go to subs like r/depression and r/suicidewatch and come back to tell me that these people are faithless and deserve their circumstances/illnesses. That would be callous and cold-hearted",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"It's frustrating that they still don't believe that depression is an actual illness just because they don't believe in it. Medical professionals are saying that this is an illness or disorder. Why can't they accept that it's completely different than just being sad? Just because they don't understand or can't fully comprehend something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I haven't been medically diagnosed with depression, but I know those who have and I'll stick to what the medical professionals say rather than what EVM thinks he knows.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"The verse mentioned is so forced just to justify their lecture to seek help from officers and ministers instead of searching in the internet. ROFL, so desperate. There are psychological materials in the internet which can help provide a way to ease the symptoms for patients. Of course, they still do need physical consultation which I'm baffled that EVM didn't even mention all throughout the WS.
I would rather search from the ""facts"" in health sites from google rather than receiving advice to pray more, be active more and that I'm sad because I'm a sinner. Fuck you Eduardo
PS. If anyone remembers the verse, feel free to reply here",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"For every PPV, it has becoming more and more clear that INC has an 8th deadly theme.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,How long was it? Want to prepare for the worst.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"Does anyone have access to the pre-recorded sermon he gave? Is it on YouTube? I really want to see this, I am not a member and have never actually heard EVM speak, but this seems too surreal and evil to miss.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"I knew someone who graduated in that university with a doctorate in Psychology. Unfortunately for him, his degree was worthless because it's not honored here in the US. Hence, he couldn't find a job. The only thing he could be is to work as an admin asst and or receptionist. Not that there are anything wrong with those obs but again, you don't need a degree for them. What a waste of money and time.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,The 402 hymn was created because of the 2015 scandal. Imagine blaspheming the holy hymnal because you want to keep people trapped in your fake church 🙄🙄,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"John 16:33 NIV
33 “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
INCult cherry picking the last verse of John Chapter 16 is such an insult to Apostle John the author and the early Christians who studied the Bible in context and painstakingly organized the Books of the Bible into Chapters and verses. This division is for the sake of easy reference not to form a whole 28 doctrines and claim to be the only religion that will be saved. What has this dumbass Filipino man named Felix ever contributed to any in depth theology except to butcher and hash tagged himself into the Bible verses.
John 16:1-32 verses contain the “....I have told you these things” that Jesus was talking about. It does not make sense for a preacher to use this verse about depression just because it has the word “peace”.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"Due to my fuming anger and sleepiness, I did not realize that there were 42 ""tuloy"" in the sermon!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,Yours are only 6 mins??? mine are like 8-10,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,Nice Details. Thanks,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,like the new format and thanks for keeping us up to date ☺,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"God im so sorry dude. Its downright an insult to everyone who's dealt with mental illnesses. You don't deserve what happened to you at all, just know that you are valid in every way possible, alright?? This cult is awful.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,I'm so sorry. I hear you and I believe you. You matter and lots of people care for you.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"about the WS, is it via youtube exclusive link or physical?
the reddit part made me giggle tho. When will he know that this sub exist?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"The moment they gave like a short version of the new ministers induction, my brother gave a sigh of relief and said “oh thanks god.”",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,I'm glad more and more people are noticing this! This EVM idolatry has been rearing its ugly head since 2015.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,Maybe this is why he is losing cash?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"I crossposted this to r/religiousfruitcake , btw",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,And I think he would have said that with pride.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"He might be, we don't know.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,EVM is a MEME haha,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"Come to think of it, i've never encountered an INC Psych practitioner. As in!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,Depression doesn't exist?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"EVM's mini rant is slightly over an hour, while adding in the rest of the WS makes it an jour and a half.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"The official YT channel only has snippets of his sermon. There's no publicly available sermon of whole duration available anywhere. Because guess what, it's a cult. 🙄🙄",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/exIglesiaNiCristo) if you have any questions or concerns.*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"Not sure if this will answer your question but It's pre-recorded.. :) then it will be played in WS.
actually, it makes me think that he already knows that this sub exists. Like, to me, why will he mention that instead of seeking answers through internet, we should talk to officers in the church? We know that most of us share our burdens here. It means that he is aware. 🤔",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,Even before 2015 too. But since mid 2015 it has gone to another level.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"Here's a sneak peek of /r/religiousfruitcake using the [top posts](https://np.reddit.com/r/religiousfruitcake/top/?sort=top&t=year) of the year!
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,If this is his way of projecting then it's a very distasteful one. Mental illness is not a free pass to be an asshole.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"Psychiatrist, or psychologist? I've heard from some ministers that NEU is a diploma mill for the latter.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"My instructor in NEU is a Doctor in Psychology who completed her studies in UP Diliman. She is terrible, batshit crazy, she rants for 2 hours in class and it's not even about us. It's quite ironic that a Psych Instructor is that one who is very unstable. She doesn't even know what Scientific Theory is, claiming that ""they are theories and therefore not proven."" I have never seen such stupidity, especially coming from a Doctor in Psychology.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"aah pre-recorded~ poor him, he can't speak live :)
I thought cult or evm can do WS live cos they're filthy rich XD
He is aware, he has a lot of eyes = creepy if it is literal eyes. He might have spies tho.
most of his ministers are human and some are close-minded, they can't help cos they're not mental health practitioner. :')
because of the depression topic, this sub will have more members.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 06 - Feb 09, 2021)",ldpeas,2021-02-05,"We were told that if we need help mentally that we should talk to the ministers from NEU who have a diploma in psychology so that they can help us using both their psychology degree and the Bible because they're ministers...no thanks. They brought this up a few times, but then seemed to stop once EVM started saying depression isn't real.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"Household Worship Service Wednesday/Thursday: February10/11, 2021
BROTHER FELIX MANALO IS GOD’S MESSENGER IN THE LAST DAYS
We firmly believe that the Church to which we belong is the Church that truly belongs to God and to Christ because the one who preached about it—Brother Felix Manalo—is a messenger of God. Through his preaching of God’s words taught by Christ, the Church Of Christ was re-established by Christin these last days. We will review today the reason we are certain that God sent a messenger in the last days and the proof that Brother Felix Manalo is God’s messenger.
In the Christian era, God sends messengers through biblical prophecies. The testimony that John the Baptist gave that he was a messenger of God was the prophecy of God written in the book of Prophet Isaiah proclaimed hundreds of years before John was born. It was not the name “John the Baptist” that was written in the prophecy but the work that God had appointed him to fulfill. John the Baptist proved that he was a messenger of God when he proclaimed in John 1:19-23 (Good News Bible) that the prophecy of Isaiah concerning “the voice shouting in the desert” referred to him and was fulfilled in him.
The greatest Messenger, our Lord Jesus Christ, proved in the same manner that He was sent by God. It was recorded in Luke 4:16-21 (GNB) that He read the prophecy about His work or mission written also in the book of Isaiah, which states, “The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, because He has chosen Me to bring good news ... He has sent Me to ... announce that the time has come when the Lord will save His people.” The Name of Christ was also not mentioned in the prophecy about Him. And Christ Himself said that He was the One being prophesied when He said, “This passage of scripture has come true today, as you heard it being read.”
The prophecy attesting to Apostle Paul’s being sent by God is written also in the book of Prophet Isaiah, as mentioned in Acts 13:46-47. The book states about his work: “I have set you as a light to the Gentiles.” This prophecy of Prophet Isaiah did not mention as well the name of Apostle Paul. And, likewise, the apostle himself also proclaimed that the prophecy was fulfilled in him because he was the one who was to understand what the Scripture was saying. God sent Apostle Paul when our Lord Jesus Christ was in heaven already. Therefore, it is not true that God’s sending of messengers was only up to the time when Christ was still here on earth.
There is also a prophecy in the book of Prophet Isaiah about God’s sending of Brother Felix Manalo as His Messenger. This is written in Isaiah 46:11: Calling a bird of prey from the east, The man who executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it.
The one being prophesied is not a literal bird of prey because the one being prophesied was a man who would execute God’s counsel. It was specified which east he would come from—not the Near East or Middle East where the messengers of God from ancient times had come from, but Far East. We have proven in our previous lessons that the Philippines, where Brother Felix Manalo began to preach, is in the Far East.
According to Isaiah 46:11-13, God would use the messenger who was likened to a bird of prey to bring His righteousness near so people who are far from it will be saved. God’s righteousness, according to Romans 1:16-17, is the gospel, which “is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes.” Therefore, the prophesied messenger would be God’s instrument in His work of salvation.
Brother Felix Manalo was likened to a bird of prey because, according to the prophecy in Isaiah 43:5-6, the people in the Far East to whom God sent him were being held back by the “north” and the “south.” The “north” represents Protestantism and the “south” Catholicism.
On pages 72 and 48 of the book Europe (in Theory), it is stated that the Christian religion was divided into Catholic and Protestant, in the 18th century. The people of the north embraced Protestantism, while those of the south adhered still to Catholicism.
On page 745 of The Encyclopedia of World Religions, it is stated that even in America, the north is predominantly Protestant and the south is predominantly Catholic. The ones who brought Catholicism to the Philippines, were the Spaniards, citizens of Spain, a country in southern Europe. Those who brought Protestantism to the Philippines came from North America—the Americans who occupied the Philippines after the Spaniards.
The Catholic Church and Protestantism are the two dominant religions in the Philippines even before Brother Felix Manalo began preaching. It is from those religions that they would bring people out.
Bringing people out of Protestantism (or the north) and Catholicism (or the south) is equivalent to snatching them out and saving them from the punishment by fire, according to Jude 1:23 (GNB). The messenger would bring near to them God’s righteousness or would preach to them the true gospel. What the prophecy stated about the mission that Brother Felix Manalo would carry out were all fulfilled.
According to the prophecy in Isaiah 43:5, God would bring and gather the people who accepted and firmly believed in the teachings preached by God’s Messenger in the last days. In John 6:44, our Lord Jesus Christ said that no one can come to Him unless drawn or brought by God to Him, and He will raise them up at the last day or on Judgment Day. Christ would make them into one flock, as stated in John 10:16. The flock is the Church Of Christ, according to Acts 20:28 (Lamsa translation). Therefore, the other sheep of Christ whom God would bring to Him through the Messenger will be made by Christ into the Church Of Christ. And so, it is the Lord Jesus Christ Who established the Church Of Christ in these last days, through prophecy.
A messenger is still needed for the gospel to be preached because God gave the right to preach only to His messenger, based on Romans 10:14-15. Just because a person has attained a high level of education or is a skilled speaker does not mean that such person has the right to preach. That person needs to prove first that he is a messenger of God because one who is not sent by God does not have the right to preach the gospel. Moreover, the words of God cannot be preached by anyone who is not sent by Him because the Bible is kept secret or hidden in mystery, according to Romans 16:25. And so, even if those who are not sent by God study it, they will never understand it. However, it is to the messenger that God gave the gift of understanding it.
The authority of Brother Felix Manalo to preach the words of God is based on the prophecies that prove that he was sent by God, which were all fulfilled in him: the prophesied place and time of his emergence; the prophesied mission that he would execute—the snatching out from the fire people who are in false religions by bringing near to them the righteousness and salvation of God; and God’s bringing to Christ of people who will firmly believe in his preaching, and Christ, in turn, will bring them to be in the one flock or Church Of Christ.
Also fulfilled in Brother Felix Manalo are God’s promises and testimony stated in the prophecy in Isaiah 41:9-10 (KJV2000):
You whom I have taken from the ends of the earth, and called you from its chief men, and said unto you, you are my servant; I have chosen you, and not cast you away. Fear not; for I am with you: be not dismayed; for I am your God: I will strengthen you; yea, I will help you; yea, I will uphold you with the right hand of my righteousness.
In this prophecy, God proclaimed His testimonies and promises to Brother Felix Manalo, His Messenger whom He took and elected from the ends of the earth. God attested that He is the One Who called and chose His Messenger and that He is the God of this servant of His. For this reason, God exhorted him to be neither afraid nor dismayed because He is with him. God said that He would strengthen, help, and uphold him with the right hand of His righteousness.
God fulfilled all these promises to Brother Felix Manalo. It is very evident how God has helped and strengthened the result of the work that he began. The Church has grown and spread throughout the world. Its membership has increased, and the number of Church Officers has risen. It has produced many ministers and ministerial workers. Those who contend with the work of God’s Messenger have not hindered it from reaping victories. Before God laid to rest Brother Felix Manalo, the Church Of Christ was firmly established in the Philippines already.
God has been with this holy mission and has upheld it not only when Brother Felix Manalo administered the Church but also when Brother Eraño Manalo administered it, and until now that it is being administered by Brother Eduardo Manalo. The ever-increasing strength and victory of the Church Of Christ are the work of God and the fulfillment of His promise.
These solid testimonies concerning the divine calling and authority of Brother Felix Manalo are the basis that we hold on to in recognizing him as the Messenger of God in the last days. Because of God’s commissioning of him, we are now members of the true Church, the ones who are truly of God and of Christ, having the right to render true service and worship, and the hope to be saved and to inherit God’s promises.
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED BY BROTHER ERAÑO G. MANALO
WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY: FEBRUARY 10/11, 2021",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"That was a very great WS....
BECAUSE I FRIGGIN SLEPT THE WHOLE SERVICE WAHAHAHAHAH",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"Severely cherry picked verses on how FYM was God’s chosen messenger in the last days. Of course, the INCult spins the narrative again. I’m tired of listening to these rehashed lectures.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"No mentions of 1913, 1914, World War I, or registration. Sneaky as fuck. Oh, and INC never really dropped the *Last* in the *Last Messenger* title, to them it's just interchangeable with *Messenger in these Last Days.*
**I wonder what Fallen Angels and/or EVM critics have to say about this lesson.**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,Acts 20:28. Tick,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"One of the resources they used basically talked about how the Northern part of the USA was predominantly Protestant and how the Southern part of the USA was predominantly Catholic.
A quick google search from Pew disproves that pretty easily.
[Religious composition of the North.](https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/region/northeast/)
[Religious composition of the South.](https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/region/south/)
Also it's strange how the started dropping ""Last"" from Felix Manalo's title.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"Tried to bring up the King Cyrus on Isaiah 46:11 prophecy to my dad after this lesson.
He said that they were merely mistranslations and whoever wrote ""The Message"" and the ""Amplified bible"" only assumed it was King Cyrus because of the banner and all and he was not actually not mentioned in the original hebrew language of the bible. ( he looked up the hebrew version of the bible and its translation to show me)
He therefore concluded that there are invalid verses on every Bible translation and only the messenger can somehow find the valid one among all bible translations. He even said that's the reason why INC cherry picks their verses (which I believe is a load of bull)
Still does not prove that isaiah 46:11 refers to felix manalo.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"**Hymns**
* 156 (Officers’ Prayer)
* 318
* mentions the Messenger (in these last days) in the refrain (capitalized of course!)
* seems more like a showtune than a hymn
* 278
* This one is completely about the Messenger (in these last days)
* 243
* obedience/duty hymn
* also mentions staying in the INC in the 1st verse
* 60
* end of second ~~verse~~ refrain mentions the Messenger (in these last days); repeat for coda in case once wasn’t enough (EDIT: It was second refrain, not verse.)
* 89 (Before Sermon)
* hard-to-follow (at least to me) showtune about...you guessed it!...the (last) Messenger (in...you guessed it!...ThEsE lAsT dAyS! That’s the 4th time just today...)
* Why did I put “last” in parentheses? Because this hymn is the only one that still says “last Messenger” (at least in today’s lineup; hymns 201 & 268 also say “last Messenger”).
* 298 (Recessional)
* Supposedly we truly need our WSes
* 3rd stanza starts, “Oh, we, indeed, should not return to darkness anymore, Lest we be cast away and meet destruction with the world.” Nope...not disturbing/fear mongering lyrics over an otherwise upbeat showtune...not at all! /s
* These hymns (sans 243 & 298) were originally planned for Jan. 31 before the powers that be pushed everything back for some reason. Originally 242 & 425 were assigned in place of said hymns.
* Nope! No idolatry here...
* Even some of the preludes were hymns dedicated to the Messenger:
* 341: “ From The Time That We Have Been Sealed”
* 401: “The Last Work Of Salvation”
* 244: “I Call To Mind The Messenger”
* Also these hymns were (or at least felt) waaaaaayy loooooongg. God help those whose ministers/workers didn’t stand on the 3rd hymn.
* I guess the music dept. now has to “fix” those 3 hymns that say “last Messenger.”
**Sermon**
* Just based on 4 of those hymns...3 guesses as to what (or rather *whom*) this lesson was about; 1st 2 don’t count!
* Give up? Or just want to confirm your guess? Well, if you guessed the (last) messenger (in these last days), you’re correct!
* John 1:19–23
* Luke 4:16–21
* Acts 13:46–47
* Isaiah 46:11–13
* Romans 1:16–17
* Isaiah 43:5–6
* No, my worker did not mention any translations for any verse. Could it be for the reason everyone thinks it is? 🤔
* *Europe in Theory*, pp. 72, 48
* Northern Europe was Protestant; Southern Europe was Catholic.
* *The Encyclopedia of the World*, p. 745
* Similarly, other parts of the world were Protestant in the North, Catholic in the South.
* Jude 1:23
* Isaiah 43:5 (Repeat)
* John 6:44
* John 10:16
* drumroll please!...Acts 20:28!
* Nope...still no translation mentioned, even though it’s clear which one it is!
* Romans 10:14–15
* Revelation 7:2–3 (Mention)
* Romans 16:25
* Isaiah 41:9–10
**Other Comments**
* My worker, surprisingly, didn’t discourage us from reading the Bible for ourselves.
* Does anyone else’s minister/worker not name the translation(s) used?
* If you haven’t already attended, you might want to tally how many times you hear “ThEsE lAsT dAyS.” The hymns alone, if I’m not mistaken, total to 8 instances, with hymn 89 alone having 3 despite being the shortest.
EDIT: Format",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"Lesson for today's WS: ""Felix Manalo is the Messenger of God in these last days"" 📣",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"according to the bible created by catholic pope damasus 1 in 382 A.D., council of rome, felix manalo a cult leader is the last messenger, will attempt to apostatise the catholic church who apostatise the first christ's church too. (sarcasm)Lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"By the looks of it, this was a long one. Glad I didn't attend today lmao",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"Europe ( In Theory) page 72 does have North is Protestant and South is Catholic. BUT in the grand tradition of INCult taking passages/narratives out of context, it is Northern Europe and Southern Europe NOT of the world. The title of the book is the dead giveaway that it is all about Europe which is all NORTH of the equator.
https://library.oapen.org/bitstream/handle/20.500.12657/25784/1004305.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,I once told a minister that Jesus is the messenger in these last days according to Hebrews 1:1-2. Their go to answer is that Jesus is the greatest messenger. I said there is nothing about Jesus in the Bible as greatest messenger. INCult assigned/coined that term for Jesus so Felix gets the title of “last messenger”.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,Very much a similar recycled lesson to last weekend. This is why the midweek is pointless. Expect a similar recycled lesson on this weekend too.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"Thank you for sharing and posting. 🌻
So basically, another rehash of the same old lesson with the same verses. The bible has so many verses and yet, INC will never leave outside the box because God forbid, they would use different verses and it wouldn't support the cult's evil doctrine.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,I had severe headache after reading to my family a minute ago,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"Just to add about North=Protestant and South=Catholic. But historically these Protestant and Catholic religions/movements are all in Europe. All are North of the equator. This misinformation can screw up an INC brainwashed kid. Look at July 27, 1914 as the start of WW1; Hawaii as the far west. Lies on top of stupid lies.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"Just found this http://islamicblessings.com/upload/The-Encyclopedia-of-World-Religions.pdf
INCult quoted page 745 when the book only goes up to 514 pages. Lies lies and more lies",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed.
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"If there are invalid verses in the Bible, then their teaching that the Bible isn't wrong and God always guides the hands of the translators is wrong. EGM book, 1st chapter: ""[The] Iglesia ni Cristo affirms that the Bible contains no error.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"If you **really** want to point out how INC lies about FYM's legacy, look no further than their claims that WWI was declared on July 27, 1914. >!it's actually July 28, look it up!<
* You can challenge Biblical interpretations, **but not established fact**
* INC doctrine itself attests that the true church speaks **no lies or falsifications** whatsoever",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,Talk about the same lesson!. Certainly some of their favorite verses here. Expect it to repeat this weekend.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,Seriously long lesson. Must of been 50 minutes.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"Wuhuu! Thank you always for this! Yes, no translation was mentioned on the bible verses.
But the brainwashed self in me again never noticed removing ""last"" in ""last messenger""
Can anyone confirm why and when did it start?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"They dropped the word ""last"" in Last Messenger??",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,Good find and probably a good reference to keep in the wiki among all the other non-Bible references they like to use.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"Again with their ever lousy word play. They never learn. When will they ever feel embarrassed of the words, excuses and claims they come up with? They always love to put themselves in a foot-in-mouth situation. Such a pity.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,Yap. They just recycle lesson so they can relax and enjoy life,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"This is actually BIG!
But of course, you're not a real INC member if you double check things...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"lets add this link from incmedia on how we should trust the bible, https://incmedia.org/why-believe-and-trust-the-bible-today/",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,Because the last messenger is no other tha their beloved and his highnest lord evm.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,I just translated it. But I guess yeah. Si Felix Manalo ang Sugo ng Diyos sa mga Huling Araw is the title,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"Bored leadership? - They probably have something like 50 sermon outlines, maybe 3 or 4 slightly different versions of each topics, rinse and repeat.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,Born and raised but enlightened now.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,"He is the last, last, last messenger. When the successor takes place, he'll be the 4th last. Lol.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,Oh yeah. There's no 'Huling' word before Sugo.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,So many last....I take it EVMs first born will be another last. 🙄,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 10 - Feb 12, 2021)",lgleya,2021-02-09,Lol. Absolutely. No doubt.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lgleya/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_10_feb_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"Context of lesson: Why Iglesia ni Cristo should still be thankful amidst persecution.
I listened to the lesson very carefully. It was mentioned that Iglesia ni Cristo suffers persecution because we have Christ on our name, and that's what he has experienced. Also, if our family members, for example, are hindering us on fulfilling our duties like worship services, then we should always choose our divine election no matter what. A bible verse was mentioned..
Ergh, this is what I don't get. Like bruh, God even commanded that we should love our parents because it is the first commandment of God and then you will tell me this kind of thing? Is God double standard or what?
I also examined hymn 23, which was one of my favorites before..
Dito ang lahat ay pawang sakit
Lubhang sagana ang pag uusig
At Ang mabuhay dito ay hapis
Kaya magtumibay na may pagtitiis.
I just realized the negativity of the lyrics. On this earth we live in, all are agony? Is God really that cruel? 😔",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"i slept...
as usual",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"It's degrading that the INC tries to make itself a hate victim and that it's the white knight side of a black-and-white morality image that it tries to build.
And I've already pointed it out before: Tearing families apart to convert someone is somehow a good thing, yet when the reverse happens the entire family deserves to be punished? *Sigh*.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,Their inc cult god is a masochistic and cruel god. Manalo and his ministers are using their cult god to intimidate their fooled members to fully manipulate/control them. Manalo having total control over members and to all his ministers brings great leverage to whatever Manalo wants them to do hiding in the name of their god. Their inc cult god is also being taken advantage by manalo for his financial gains.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"To make matters worse, my minister shouted the entire lesson. How can they talk about persecution when they constantly bash other religions AND persecute people who attempt to leave?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"**Hymns**
* 235
* 13
* 101
* 97
* 23
* 149
* 298
**Verses**
* John 15:20
* John 15:18
* John 15:19
* John 15:21
* Matthew 5:10–12
* Matthew 10:37
* I Peter 4:14–16
* Mark 8:38
* Acts 5:40–42
* Daniel 6:7–10
* Luke 18:28–30
* II Thessalonians 1:4–5
* Revelations 7:13–17",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"Lesson promotes the ""us vs them"" mentality and encourages families to go against one another for the sake of the church. Definitely not a cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"Here are some of the notes I made while listening to this lesson and my thoughts:
* They claim that INC members are heavily persecuted and that the world hates the INC.
* Most of the world doesn't even know about the INC so how could they hate the INC? I think persecution should be defined because I've never experienced any persecution while still being in the INC. There are people who question the teachings, but I feel like the only ones who actually get offended are the ones who really can't defend or speak about their religion because they lack that knowledge or deep understanding. I also think they get offended because of a deep realization that what those ""persecutors"" are asking about are true. Someone asked me a question about the INC and also asked how the church would fair with EGM gone, but that is a far cry from being ""heavily persecuted"".
* They mentioned that INC is persecuted because their church has the name of Christ in it.
* I'm a little dumbfounded by this one. Naming one's church or religion isn't dependent on any set rules. We have a Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster so I'm pretty sure there aren't any laws banning what you can name a church.
* They went on to warn Bible students that they should be ready or prepared to be persecuted and that we should be glad that we are being persecuted because it shows that what was read in the Bible about the true servants being persecuted as being true.
* This is a head scratcher for me yet again. I still don't see where this persecution is coming from especially when it's those who are just questioning the religion looking for legitimate answers.
* Those who join the INC will be persecuted by their loved ones and we should stand firm against that.
* It's actually the complete opposite and the experiences posted here are evidence to that. The INC breaks up families when someone just wants to leave or doesn't want to be in the church. Those who want to leave are persecuted by their families because that's just the INC way.
* They said people who do not want to join the INC don't want to be ashamed then goes on to ask if we should be ashamed. And that we shouldn't be ashamed because we are Christians and it means that we would be ashamed of Jesus Christ.
* What? I don't think I've met anyone who says, ""shame on you for believing in Jesus Christ"" or ""shame on you for being a Christian"". All of my non-INC friends don't really care what your religion is, but they'll respect it.
* They asked if we stand to lose anything if we suffer for following Christ and those who suffer will be rewarded with eternal life.
* What sufferings are they referring to?? Being questioned about their teachings? People saying no, they don't want to attend your EVM or bible study? Or those who critically examine the teachings of the INC and find cherry picking verses and fallacies within?
My own summary of the lesson. The INC wants their members to believe that they're being heavily persecuted by the whole world. They want them to believe that they're also going through some type of suffering and staying inside the INC is the only way to receive salvation. The truth of the matter is that the INC persecutes the rest of the world. We've seen that in their religion bashing lessons. We've also seen families become torn apart because someone doesn't want to follow their beliefs any longer. If we exchanged every time they said ""world"" with ""INC"" during this lesson, then I think it would have been a truer lesson.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"Iglesia Ni Cristo claims to be persecuted. Lol
I'm sure Lowell Menorca and 4 dead guys at a minimum have something to say about that.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"This is what I hate about this cult. Our “god” is angry, vengeful, unforgiving and is never satisfied. Unlike other religions where they portray God as loving and forgiving and is always going to welcome you with open arms, even if you are a sinner. I find more comfort in their version of God than the INC god.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,At the end we was encouraged to download ther INK music media app. Yeah right. Spotify for me thanks !!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"i think we got the same lesson..though i didnt listen fully..so im hearing only some lines of their BS, not the whole BS",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,Same had a late night gaming session so I was so sleepy.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,This style of teaching and the style of praying is what turns off most people from the cult. I wonder if they're self-aware enough to figure that out.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"Matthew 10:37 NIV
37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
INCult isolating this verse to break families apart is what makes them a menace to society. Jesus or the “me” in NO WAY mean the INC of Manalo but unfortunately that is how it is presented in WS/brainwashing sessions.
To put this in context is to read the whole Chapter 10. With the first verse stating that Jesus is talking to 12 original disciples and verse 2,even naming all 12. So Jesus is just prepping the 12 NOT the reader or US to not love our parents more than being members of INCult. Jesus was just laying down to the 12 the lowdown on being direct recruits of Him to the Jesus preaching tour that they are about to embark on.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,Why isn’t it just John 15: 18-21???,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"The songs are really boring. I think if I ever do leave the church, I want to put an exclamation point on it by belting out a good old gospel hymn like the old rugged cross during the boring service ending songs.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"As untactful as this sounds, this family-against-its-own mindset is perpetuated by the Bible itself.
>Matthew 10:37
>Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
>Matthew 19:29
>And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or farms for My name’s sake, will receive many times as much, and will inherit eternal life.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"because I get to play video games while staring blankly at the screen. One screen with the lesson with minimal volume, the main screen with Persona 5 Strikers.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"Exactly! They're the ones with a death squad to silent those who publicly maligned them.
They persecute their very own family members and prevent them from leaving the cult.
And yet somehow, they continue with this ridiculous victim mentality and the ministers shamefully cry out with crocodile tears during prayers. It's just stupid!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"If God is vengeful because we all sinned, we should all have died in vain.
the truth is, in my Christian point-of-view, God is a loving and forgiving God. Bible should be a love story, not a horror story.
as outsiders, people do what God does, to be accepting and kind. Some people may be bad, but most of them are good.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"Ditto. But if someone is Brainwashed already, he/she will not realize it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"maybe they are more focused sa mga happenings sa Old testament haha..?
pero watch this kung gusto niyo poo, it changed my pov somehow 😅 skl.
https://youtu.be/HtXAQzqVv5s",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,It’s so they can listen in on you whilst doing heretical activities.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"If that app asks for multiple permissions(i.e. storage, mic, camera, gps, contacts, etc.) then its a spyware.
I'm sure its just a streaming app so it should just require an internet access and no other permissions required. If I remember correctly, spotify only needed storage permissions when you are downloading songs for offline play.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"Rofl! My mind wandered at last part of the lesson. Haha! But yeah, definitely we should have all the same lesson. :)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"Because they need to be presented in the ""right"" order, but unrelated to each-other, so the cult can twist their meaning! (Note: The ""right"" order is clearly not the order in which they were written.)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"I had someone use that on me back in the days before I became a card carrying agnostic. My answer was I still love god, but god and the church are not the same thing.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,Yep. Me too,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"That's what I come to realize when I finally woke up on my senses. I pray that slowly, I'll be able to view Him as a merciful God. ✨",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"if you dont accept that god is vengeful then you are cherry picking what's stated in the bible. just like the incult. so why believe the bible at all?
the truth is, you are all still brainwashed biblical folktales. wake the fck up.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,your profile also says you support LGBT. you do know that the very buybull you believe in is against it right? you really do like cherry picking buybull verses.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,I'll check this out!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,">My answer was I still love god, but god and the church are not the same thing
But God established the church, and as per a Trinitarian's viewpoint, the one who mentioned those above verses was God himself.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 13 - Feb 16, 2021)",liso8o,2021-02-12,"Waking-up and being safe from great danger are the mercies come from God. These are underrated things that we should be thankful for.
also, Seeing the truth after the years of lies is a grace from God.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/liso8o/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_13_feb_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"In this worship service, asking ""why do we need to bear 6 fruit"" is apparently now complaining and criticism",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"**""Hymns""**
* 138 (Officers' Prayer)
* 312
* There's a part where we sing about how we remain in the Church that God (supposedly) loves.
* 94
* Nitpick: I'm still used to this one going first (officers' prayer hymn aside). Then whoever makes these lineups moved it. If it's not broken, don't ""fix"" it...
* 154
* Formerly the ""Are you easily offended?"" hymn, this hymn is now the ""Is your weary heart offended?"" hymn.
* ""It's a sin to cause offense"" unless apparently you're a higher-up within this alleged church. (If your last name is Manalo, it's obligatory to cause offense.)
* 262
* The same hymn that mentions sufferings/hardships/tribulations also claims God is gracious and shouldn't be betrayed.
* 180 (Before Sermon)
* No doubting because doubting is bad.
* 298
* Don't forsake the WS lest you return to darkness.
* As the quote marks imply, these ""hymns"" serve nothing but a means to kill trees and waste ink. EDIT: And brainwash the brethren.
**Sermon**
* Romans 5:2
* Through Christ we gained access by faith
* We boast in the hope of the glory of God
* Hebrews 11:6
* Without faith, it's impossible to please God.
* Believe he exists and he rewards those who seek him.
* John 3:18
* Don't believe in God and Christ? Condemned!
* Revelation 21:8
* cowardly
* unbelieving
* vile
* murders
* sexually immoral
* those who practice magic arts
* idolaters *(welp, time to get rid of those EVM portraits)*
* liars *(mention this next time your worker or minister lies to you and/or other brethren)*
* If you fall under at least one of these categories, you will be cast into the lake of fire and brimstone!
* John 6:25-26
* followers followed Jesus because he fed them, not because they believed
* John 6:27-29
* Work for food that endures to eternal life
* The work of God: believe in the one he has sent
* John 6:64
* Jesus knew who didn't believe and who would betray him.
* John 6:60-61
* Many of Jesus' disciples couldn't accept his teaching, to which Christ asked, ""Does this offend you?
* (Quote continues, hence the lack of an end quote mark)
* *(Hymn 154 blares in the background)*
* John 6:66
* Many disciples turned back
* ~~ThE nUmBeR oF tHe BeAsT~~
* John 6:67-69
* Jesus asked if the Apostles wanted to leave, but they didn't.
* Hebrews 11:1
* Faith = assurance in what we don't see
* Romans 4:18-21
* Abraham believed, fathered many nations, didn't waver/weaken in faith
* Colossians 1:23 *(copy/pasted)*
* **23** if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.
* Matthew 7:24-25
* wise builder who built house on rock
* Matthew 7:26-27
* foolish man who built his house on the sand
* *Preacher man, are you almost finished? Can we just skip to the closing prayer, s'il vous plaît?*
* John 14:1-2 *(copy/pasted)*
* “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God\[[a](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2014&version=NIV#fen-NIV-26670a)\]; believe also in me.
* **2** My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you?
* Mark 16:15-16
* propagation verse
* Believe or be condemned.
* John 6:29 (repeat from earlier because why wouldn't they repeat it?)
* Worker spends time emphasizing Felix Y. Manalo.
**Other Comments**
* The preacher claims nobody joined the church for anyone (e.g. parents, significant other), yet just how much of the church's serial number is just that?
* Another WS, another sermon with 0 translations named. I paraphrased/copy & pasted from the New International Version.
EDIT: Cleanup",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"Lesson for today: Ang Marapat na Pag-anib sa Iglesia ni Cristo;
English Trans: The righteous way to become a member of Church of Christ (am I right lol?)
Takeaway:
If you are easily offended, you don't have faith.
(Kung matitisurin ka, hindi ka sumasampalataya)
Whut you say? Drowsy throughout the entire sermon though.... 🥱",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"I'll wait for the usual Bible verse post to give my two cents on this WS topic. It's interesting, and at the same time falls apart when one remembers that *faith is a subjective construct, not objective fact*.
Some ministers are good in public speaking; I enjoy mentally sparring with them. Others are boring and make 5 minutes seem like an hour. But the guy who preached in our locale was fucking infuriating in the way he talked; I don't like acts of needless violence but I really had the urge to just throttle him in front of the membership then and there.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"Credits to u/KadPresChoirSecTSV for his outline of the Bible verses used.
>Romans 5:2, Hebrews 11:6, John 6:25-26
Come on, Central. Let's be honest here. How many of your ""loyal sheep"" are in INC that isn't because of faith? If the Bible is explicit about nonbelievers who follow for gain or convenience, why keep demonizing *handogs* who simply cannot find it in themselves have faith in the INC? I thought potential converts are always told to ""listen to the doctrines, but do not feel compelled to join if you don't believe them""?
Let me cite again the phrase used by the minister verbatim *ang nasa loob ng Iglesia na nakikisama lang sa asawa, sa anak,* ***sa magulang***\*, sa kamag-anak, sa nagpapatrabaho ay hindi ganap na sumasampalataya\*
>John 3:18, Revelations 21:8
These verses are why the concept of a loving God *is complete utter dogshit.* If his love is truly boundless and unconditional, why would he send me to damnation just because I didn't subscribe to his subjective application of faith? That's not benevolent, that's a tyrant for fuck's sake.
Following that logic, EVM and Pastor Quiboloy have a better shot at heaven than that one pagan dude who literally has a passion for helping people live better lives.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"Tonight I will mostly be doing, Accounts !!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"How can they say that no one joined because of someone when their incmedia stories are just filled with people who married a Filipino? They lsay that they joined because of faith, but let's see what their marriage timeline looked like because I've seen enough where they got married right after the person was baptized.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"Hymn 154.
I thought hymns were supposed to praise God, not lecture members? How many hymns now lecture the brethren instead of praise God?
It's ironic that a line in the ""hymn"" talks about 'its a sin to cause offense', while this entire hymn offends me.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"Hymn 154.
Are hymns supposed to be praising God or lecturing the brethren? Just curious.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,Hmm I see again the “jumping around” of verses in John 6 🙄🙄🙄,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"ok, im not listening to this incoming WS this weekend..your post sums up everything they BS they will say",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"Ministers, yes they are always angry as it seems.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed.
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"Just a few examples of hymns that lecture instead of praise:
* 3: “Open, open your heart”
* 5: “To our Savior, confide all the hardship that you bear”
* 31: “Reach out and offer now your help”
* 32: “Oh, do you have holy fear/Is your love for God sincere?”
* 40: “Do you aspire to live in Jesus Christ?”
* 43: “Draw near to God and bring to Him/All of your pain and suffering”
* 47: “Oh be brave and take up your cross/Always following our Lord”
* 49: “So don’t be weak, don’t waver now/Let’s be strong in heart in mind”
* 50: “Be ever true to Our Lord God”
And that’s just within the first 50 “hymns”!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"I guess for the sake of the Cult of Manalo, all that matters is brainwashing brethren (The more, the merrier!).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,John’s narrative (whole chapter 6) of Jesus speaking and event is not good enough for INCult. They have to add misleading questions before their own cherry picked verses. Who should we listen to John who hung out with Jesus or the Manalo’s self serving edited version?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,Right? Stop yelling at me and inspire me!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"Nah, it's just that one guy. They are trained to speak forcefully.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,I'm not sure why they think getting yelled at is an effective way of inspiring people.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 17 - Feb 19, 2021)",llljin,2021-02-16,"With 50 probably sung the most out of the first 50, followed by 47. 5 is rarely sung, if ever.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/llljin/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_17_feb_19/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 20 - Feb 23, 2021)",lnynva,2021-02-19,"They kept mentioning different translations and referenced that scholars agreed on certain translations. What do scholars say about Acts 20:28 Lamsa translation??? Can we do an examination of this verse and translation then reference what scholars have to say about this as well?
They also mentioned that Jesus's name wasn't mentioned in reference to John 1:1, 14 so it couldn't have been him. I don't see FYM's name mentioned in the Bible so let's just stop trying to form these kinds of arguments.
Lastly, barely any translations were mentioned again. I'm guessing this was a commandment from EVM to stop mentioning translations. Never have i ever heard them explain the different types of translations. I had to go out and learn about the difference in translations on my own.
Here's a link that has helped me understand the different types of translations for those interested: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR\_Kgx6M4HA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR_Kgx6M4HA)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lnynva/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_20_feb_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 20 - Feb 23, 2021)",lnynva,2021-02-19,"**Hymns**
* 34 (Officers' Prayer)
* 164
* 96
* 19
* 75
* 91 (Before Sermon)
* The last half of the refrain is about the messenger.
* 298 (Recessional)
**Sermon**
* Topic: Jesus Christ is not God.
* John 1:1, 14
* In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
* **14** And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
* Worker cites a footnote from the Douay-Rheims translation, claiming the above is not referring to a preexisting Christ. *(Can somebody please double-check this for me to make sure I'm wording this correctly?)*
* I Peter 1:20 (Douay-Rheims)
* Foreknown indeed before the foundation of the world, but manifested in the last times for you,
* Galatians 4:4
* ... God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, under the law,
* John 1:1 (Goodspeed)
* In the beginning the Word existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was divine.
* Luke 1:37 (American Standard Version)
* **37** For no word from God shall be void of power.
* (Note that this translation was not named; I crosschecked my notes with BibleGateway to see what matched.)
* Isaiah 46:11 (mentioned only)
* No translation was named.
* Matthew 1:18, 20
* **18** Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit.
* **20** But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is \[[g](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+1&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-23165g)\]conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.
* Romans 9:5 (KJV)
* **5** Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
* Note the comma after ""over all.""
* Ephesians 4:6
* **6** one God and Father of all, who *is* above all, and through all, and in you all.
* II Corinthians 1:3
* **3** Blessed *be* the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
* Romans 9:5 (Revised Standard Version)
* **5** to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. God who is over all be blessed for ever.\[[a](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+9%3A5&version=RSV#fen-RSV-28139a)\] Amen.
* Note the period after ""Christ.""
* *The God of Jesus*, p. 25
* Greek manuscripts lack punctuation.
* Punctuation within translations depended upon writer.
* Paul would always distinguish between Christ and God.
* Final phrase possibly a doxology referring to God the Father.
* NOTE: Although the worker did not cite this link, I found more information on [Biblical Unitarian](https://www.biblicalunitarian.com/verses/romans-9-5). Again, please double check this part with what your minister/worker says, as my notes may not be fully accurate.
* I John 5:20
* **20** And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.
* John 17:3, 1
* **3** And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
* **(1)** Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,
* John 8:40
* **40** But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this.
* Luke 24:39 (mentioned only)
* No translation was named.
* I John 4:2
* **2** By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
* Repeat John 17:1, 3; note the order switch.
**Other Comments**
* Unless otherwise indicated, all verses are assumed to have been taken from the New King James Version.
* If you have suggestions or comments about my formatting, please let me know.
* I would also like to know if I should maintain no-nonsense outlines or keep doing informal ones. Perhaps I could make a mixture of some sort?
* EDIT/ADDENDUM: Unless the topic falls under ""Other religions are wrong,"" could this be an outlier to the Seven Deadly Themes?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lnynva/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_20_feb_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 20 - Feb 23, 2021)",lnynva,2021-02-19,Kinda find it ironic of them to say others misinterpret verses yet always use the lamsa translation to prove their point,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lnynva/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_20_feb_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 20 - Feb 23, 2021)",lnynva,2021-02-19,"the usual Si Kristo ay tao...And he was discussing something about the misinterpretation of ""Verbo""...well, i havent read a Bible so i cannot comment about that..what i do know is INC tends to cherrypick and misinterpret...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lnynva/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_20_feb_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 20 - Feb 23, 2021)",lnynva,2021-02-19,*She* says the topic is about whether or not Jesus is God,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lnynva/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_20_feb_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 20 - Feb 23, 2021)",lnynva,2021-02-19,"That Christ is not an actual God and that Verbo is wrong. Just a bunch of cherry picked phrases from the Bible.
There were two ministers talking and I favored one after the other because my hoeass still looks up to the second minister but even I knew that it was bull.
For me personally I genuinely do believe that christ isn't a whole ass GOD but he is the son of God. I dony know what christ is in catholics but. Mmh yeah,,
EVEN STILL WOW THEIR. POINTS WERE SO STUPID AJGSBEHDJD
""Verbo is wrong bc... Uhhh,, , d,, d,, d-dh- u,, uhhh., , here have a bible verse that's the equivalent of a sentence that has an open end interpretation and I will now shove the INC belief WITH this Bible and its valid bc its.... in the Bible yea,, h,,""
Also a, , whole ass talk about propagation.
The second minister basically segwayed from ""Christ isn't a God."" to ""brethren, don't you want your loved ones to be saved as well?? Don't you want to save them from these wrong doctrines. The Bible said love thy neighbor and if we really love our neighbor then we should make the non pure people join.""
AND. THIS SOUNDED?? UPLIFTING TO OTHER PEOPLE. and I still don't get it it's. A MANIPULATION tactic. It's very weird
But yeah this is one of the boringer ones I'm ngl",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lnynva/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_20_feb_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 20 - Feb 23, 2021)",lnynva,2021-02-19,Hi. May I ask if all locales have the same time of worship services?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lnynva/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_20_feb_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 20 - Feb 23, 2021)",lnynva,2021-02-19,"Thanks for the all the data you post. 2 weeks of Catholic bashing with a side swipe on the Protestants and INCult is now into the recycled lesson of the Jesus downgrade. Perfect timing going into the Sta Cena cracker and shot of Welch’s grape show. Lessons leading up to the INCult version of the communion/Eucharist is to make sure the brethren get the extra brainwashing that Jesus is just the draw to the ritual. The true superstars are the Manalo family and the “one”true religion they own called the Iglesia Ni Cristo.
Jesus Christ life and death is just a footnote in the saga of the greatest story ever told in the universe. The Manalo Fairy Tale.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lnynva/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_20_feb_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 20 - Feb 23, 2021)",lnynva,2021-02-19,And no mention of John 1:30 where John the Baptist declared that Jesus existed before he John the Baptist was born. Only takes some minor reading to disprove all that they said,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lnynva/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_20_feb_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 20 - Feb 23, 2021)",lnynva,2021-02-19,"format is good, easy on the eyes",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lnynva/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_20_feb_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 20 - Feb 23, 2021)",lnynva,2021-02-19,"Anyone else notice, they use Luke 1:37 to say that the word of God is all powerful? The NKJV version says, for with God nothing will be impossible.
Either way, this verse is taken out of context. It was about Mary being able to conceive a child without a man.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lnynva/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_20_feb_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 20 - Feb 23, 2021)",lnynva,2021-02-19,">EDIT/ADDENDUM: Unless the topic falls under ""Other religions are wrong,"" could this be an outlier to the Seven Deadly Themes?
I think some flags did raise here and there. For the sermon at my locale, the minister preached that the translations that the INC uses are right because the Last Messenger said they were right, and that ""the King James Version translation of Romans 9:5 is correct because those translators *knew* from reading that Christ is not God, which is why they put a comma there which makes it correct"".
I think the ""Christ is not God"" topic itself is not a Deadly Theme, but the way it was approached, i.e. ""everyone (except us) mistranslates and misinterprets the Bible to deceive other people!"" and ""our interpretations are the only rights ones because of the Last Messenger"" would probably overlap with a Deadly Theme.
EDIT: But seriously, I think this is the most blatant lying and hypocrisy I've ever seen in a sermon. ""Our translations are right because the Last Messenger said so. Everyone else is mistranslating and misinterpreting the Bible and are just trying to deceive you. We're telling the truth."" The minister even peppered in ""brethren, we need to be smart, we need to study and understand the verses properly.""
The fact that my own family thinks *this is the absolute epitome of truth* is honestly disgusting.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lnynva/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_20_feb_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 20 - Feb 23, 2021)",lnynva,2021-02-19,"To be fair, while the Word = God connotation is reflective of mainstream Christianity, it is definitely *polytheistic.*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lnynva/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_20_feb_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 20 - Feb 23, 2021)",lnynva,2021-02-19,"As a rule, no. The online INC directory is also only accurate for locales that have resumed face-to-face worship services.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lnynva/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_20_feb_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 24 - Feb 26, 2021)",lr345p,2021-02-23,"OH GOD THIS WAS ONE OF THE WORSE ONES. so basically?? ***don't do drugs, don't drink, don't do bad shit even if you're an inc bc being in the INC doesn't give you the right to still be a bitch***
And It wouldn't be such a TERRIBLE lecture?? Because yeah it's the same shit and I've heard it before but the only difference is they added in *homosexuality* into the whole thing they just.
""yo don't BE GAY."" and as the bisexual hoeass that I am that actually was attracted to the minister saying the lecture I felt like. Really betrayed. Because the person that I thought would support me jusy?? Absolutely destroyed the community that I was in and told the whole church that they were going to HELL?? AND NOT BT SAVED BY JESUS. And that it was wrong to be a girl that likes girls and to be a boy that likes boys because the only humans God made was Adam and Eve. Which is such a??? Contradictory thing for me because ADAM AND EVE WERE. NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE BOO UHM?? there are INTERSEX people and people who are ATTRACTED to the same gender, the different gender, no gender or ALL GEBDERS.
I'm sorry as well ADDICTION is not a CHOICE, SEXUALITY is not a CHOICE. no one chooses to be addicted to drugs or alcohol willingly and no one chose to like love who they love romantically and sexually. And to cherrypick VERSES that just SHIT ON THOSE FACTS just?? Hagshgjfjfh,??
I remember just. sighing just being. outright upset about this shit and flipping off the minister in secret because I TRUSTED someone like him I. I just wanted to feel like he wouldve understood but he didn't. And not only did he misunderstand but he taught me that God would not love me, God would not save me and God will fucking CONDEM me for loving who I love
This lecture just made me lose all trust in this church. Just lose trust in religion. I SHOUKD NOT HAVE RO CHANGE MY SEXUAL IDENTITY TO PLEASE A GOD THAT *MADE* MY SEXUAL IDENTITY POSSIBLE. AND THAT IS ON PERIOD.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lr345p/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_24_feb_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 24 - Feb 26, 2021)",lr345p,2021-02-23,They had the gall to call out how non-heterosexual would be dammed eternally yet say they weren't being discriminatory because it comes from the bible.......,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lr345p/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_24_feb_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 24 - Feb 26, 2021)",lr345p,2021-02-23,"The lesson today sounds like a comedy skit, like a ”try not to laugh” challenge. The hypocrisy, I can’t...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lr345p/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_24_feb_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 24 - Feb 26, 2021)",lr345p,2021-02-23,"**Sermon**
* II Corinthians 5:17
* **17** Therefore, if anyone *is* in Christ, *he is* a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
* Ephesians 4:21-22
* **21** if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus:
* **22** that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts,
* Ephesians 4:23-24
* **23** and be renewed in the spirit of your mind,
* **24** and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.
* I Corinthians 6:9-10
* sexually immoral
* idolaters
* adulterers
* men who have sex with men
* thieves
* greedy
* drunkards
* slanderers
* swindlers
* woe to anyone on this list
* Repeat in the Living Bible translation. *(This is the only translation mentioned.)*
* Hosea 13:13-14
* **13** Israel has a chance to live, but is too foolish to take it—like a child about to be born, who refuses to come out of the womb.
* **14** I will not save this people from the world of the dead or rescue them from the power of death. Bring on\[[a](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hosea%2013:12-14&version=GNT#fen-GNT-25344a)\] your plagues, death! Bring on\[[b](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hosea%2013:12-14&version=GNT#fen-GNT-25344b)\] your destruction, world of the dead! I will no longer have pity for this people.
* *(Good News Translation best matches minister's words.)*
* I Corinthians 5:13
* **13** But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”
* Colossians 3:5-9
* **5** Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.
* **6** Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience,
* **7** in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them.
* **8** But now you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth.
* **9** Do not lie to one another, since you have put off the old man with his deeds,
* Galatians 5:19-21
* **19** Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: \[[d](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+5&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-29182d)\]adultery, \[[e](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+5&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-29182e)\]fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
* **20** idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
* **21** envy, \[[f](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+5&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-29184f)\]murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told *you* in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
* Ephesians 4:27 (mentioned)
* Matthew 3:8-10
* **8** Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance,
* **9** and do not think to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as *our* father.’ For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones.
* **10** And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
* Psalms 32:5
> I acknowledged my sin to You,
And my iniquity I have not hidden.
I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the Lord,”
And You forgave the iniquity of my sin. *Selah*
* Isaiah 55:7
> Let the \[[a](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=isaiah+55%3A7&version=NKJV#fen-NKJV-18748a)\]wicked forsake his way,
And the unrighteous man his thoughts;
Let him return to the Lord,
And He will have mercy on him;
And to our God,
For He will abundantly pardon.
* I John 1:9
* **9** If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us *our* sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
* Overall, the lesson could be summarized as the way we should live.
* Unless otherwise dictated, I copy-and-pasted from the New King James Version.
**Hymns**
* 10
* 305
* obedience hymn, especially the latter halves of each of the stanzas
* Going further, the last half of the 1st stanza mentions punishment should a person disobey.
* 131
* obedience hymn
* 93
* Much like the infamous 154 from last week, this hymn serves as a lecture to the brethren mixed with the composers' attempt at assuring the worshiper that Christ still loves him or her.
* 214
* emotional guilt trip that mentions punishment/judgment while trying to assure the worshiper he or she still has a chance to be right with God
* 171
* typical pre-sermon feel-good hymn
* 298
Yay character limit...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lr345p/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_24_feb_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 24 - Feb 26, 2021)",lr345p,2021-02-23,"I’m so glad people are talking about this weekday’s lesson. It was literally bullshit, especially when they start with homosexuality and being like “we don’t discriminate” butttt literally you guys do because you don’t accept LGBTQ people. Then when they brought up the “don’t so drugs even if they’re legal or illegal” shit, I was really like oh cool so if i’m sick I can’t take tylenol? i can’t take ibprofen if i’m in pain? This lesson got me so worked up, I can’t wait to get out of this cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lr345p/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_24_feb_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 24 - Feb 26, 2021)",lr345p,2021-02-23,funny they only use one translation that fits their agenda,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lr345p/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_24_feb_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 24 - Feb 26, 2021)",lr345p,2021-02-23,You would make a great comedian because this comment’s funny as hell.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lr345p/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_24_feb_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 24 - Feb 26, 2021)",lr345p,2021-02-23,"PERIODT. I felt your comment in my soul lmfao. I, too, am a bisexual hoeass who used to have a thing for the minister 😩 I’m fucking D O N E",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lr345p/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_24_feb_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 24 - Feb 26, 2021)",lr345p,2021-02-23,For me it was more like “try not to make it obvious that my gay ass was having a panic attack” challenge 🥲🤣,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lr345p/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_24_feb_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 24 - Feb 26, 2021)",lr345p,2021-02-23,"Since comments are limited to 10k characters, I will make my personal comments here.
* Worker spends several minutes discussing homosexuality, but doesn't discuss anything else listed in I Corinthians 6:9-10. I wonder why...
* Worker: ""God does not sound happy, does he, brethren?"" \[5 minutes later\] Worker: ""God is just; God is good."" Me: \*wonders if he even believes half the stuff exiting his mouth\*
* Worker condemns anyone TaLkInG bAd AbOuT tHe AdMiNiStRaTiOn. They can handle it, can't they?
* Possible outlier to the Seven Deadly Themes?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lr345p/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_24_feb_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 24 - Feb 26, 2021)",lr345p,2021-02-23,">don’t so drugs even if they’re legal or illegal
Wow this is some anti-vaxxer grade bullshit",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lr345p/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_24_feb_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 24 - Feb 26, 2021)",lr345p,2021-02-23,"Exactly. I understand what they are getting at though, because in the state I’m in Marijuana is legalized. But to take that “commandment” literally like they always want us too, they are basically telling us not to take any drugs.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lr345p/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_24_feb_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 24 - Feb 26, 2021)",lr345p,2021-02-23,I Corinthians 5:13 is certainly one of the favorite verses. #131 is a misleading song about Jesus.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lr345p/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_24_feb_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 24 - Feb 26, 2021)",lr345p,2021-02-23,Praying and offering your life and money for manalo will cure you of your illness.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lr345p/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_24_feb_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"the whole thing was sooo hypocritical and self contradictory lol i stopped listening when:
> ang gusto ng Diyos☝🏻😇 ay maghandog tayo🤲🏻 ng bukal sa ating loob🤍☺️
& then 5 seconds later:
> ANG HINDI MAG HANDOG😳 AY L A B A G😡😤🤬 SA UTOS NG DIYOS🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"**Sermon**
* TOPIC: “It is God Who Commands to Offer Voluntary Contributions, Render Thanksgiving, and Give Offerings""
* [Hebrews 13:15 (NKJV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+13%3A15&version=NKJV), [16 (Worrell)](https://biblehub.com/worrell/hebrews/13.htm)
* [II Corinthians 9:7](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+9%3A7&version=NKJV)
* [Galatians 6:5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+6%3A5&version=NKJV)
* [II Corinthians 9:12-13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+9%3A12-13&version=NKJV)
* [I Corinthians 16:2 (GNT)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+16%3A2&version=GNT)
* Worker quotes, ""Every Sunday... ,"" and the Good News Translation most closely matches the cited verse.
* [II Corinthians 9:5 (ERV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+9%3A5&version=ERV)
* Minister says ""ask these brothers"" instead of ""exhort the brethren.""
* [II Corinthians 9:12-13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+9%3A12-13&version=NKJV) (repeat, possibly in a different translation)
* [Haggai 1:8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Haggai+1%3A8&version=NKJV)
* [I Chronicles 29:11-12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Chronicles+29%3A11-12&version=NKJV)
* [I Chronicles 29:9](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Chronicles+29%3A9&version=NKJV)
* [II Corinthians 8:1-3](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+8%3A1-3&version=NKJV)
* The worker mentions the brethren in Macedonia to claim we have no excuse for not giving our offerings.
* [Psalms 50:14](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+50%3A14&version=NKJV)
* [I Thessalonians 5:18](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Thessalonians+5%3A18&version=NKJV)
* [Psalms 50:23](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+50%3A23&version=NKJV)
* [I Chronicles 16:8-9, 29](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Chronicles+16%3A8-9%2C29&version=NKJV)
* [II Corinthians 9:2](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+9%3A2&version=NKJV)
* The church attempts to justify its year-long setting aside with this verse, which also mentions the Macedonians.
* [II Corinthians 9:7-8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+9%3A7-8&version=NKJV) (Note the repeat of verse 7.)
* [I Timothy 6:18-19](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+6%3A18-19&version=NKJV)
**Hymns**
* 45
* 207
* older hymn but sounds like a showtune
* 141
* obedience/duty hymn (also counts as a lecture hymn)
* 133
* refrain is about obedience/submission
* 150
* lecture hymn about duty/obligation
* also mentions ""never waste your life on worldly pleasures and riches"" and ""never think your sacrifices are useless""
* 256
* ""I Am A Member Of The CHURCH OF CHRIST""
* 298
**My Comments/Observations**
* As usual, no translations are mentioned. I did see a glimpse of the worker's copy of the lesson, hence the title and Worrell translation noted. The other translations I assumed based on key words that differ from the NKJV, which I assume is the ministers'/workers' ""go-to"" translation.
* ""Who cares if the world is undergoing a pandemic? Who cares about the current economy? I don't, so give me money!"" says the Manalo.
* Couldn't the minister/worker just read the title and lead the closing prayer to save 30+ minutes (1 hour+ for some locales)? If only it worked that way...
* ""God loves a cheerful giver,"" even though I'm sure the administration would much rather receive a large sum from less-than-pleased brethren than a small sum from truly-cheerful brethren.
* They might as well have said, ""The administration loves an abundant giver, so keep giving or the finance department will have a word with you.""
* Nope. I still don't understand the rampant use of ""constantly"" in the so-called hymns (45).
* Maybe the hymns would've been ever-so-slightly better if 150 was placed before 133? Then again, most likely not (WHY did my worker not stand on 133? That hymn, at the very least, mentioned Jesus even if the refrain wasn't really about Him.).
* Well, at least the hymns help show the true nature of this ""church.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"It is a commandment and it is your responsibility to give your voluntary offering.
voluntary - proceeding from the will or from one's own choice or consent; acting or done of one's own free will without valuable consideration or legal obligation.
They also mentioned that offering should not be given based on compulsion. If this were true, then why are people being called out or approached for not giving or even not giving enough? If they want to make this truly voluntary, then do away with all that and also do away with tracking everyone's offering.
Don't track who gave what or how much they gave. Do away with the local/district offering envelopes and just leave a box. Do away with setting aside every week for the Thanksgiving offering and let your members just save up on their.
Wait?? What's that? What if the bank burns down with your money because we've heard this insane argument? Then thank goodness the bank is insured to cover lost funds. Thank goodness large banks have other branches you can go to for your funds. When you're traveling and need cash, do you go back home to your bank to get money or do you just use the nearest ATM machine?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"I would be less pissed about the lessons if they didn't keep using the word ""Voluntary"".
""You must Voluntarily give offering cause you are commanded to, you are required to."" Are they that clueless to what voluntary actually means?
Also how is setting aside money for thanksgiving instead of giving it upright make it not feel forced?
Lessons are making it sound like God needs money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"Voluntary and Obligated doesn't mix well. It's like saying you can give any amount but it is required.
P.S. Found a use for my 0.25 peso coins, I drop them in the offerings box. At least I'm not hoarding the coins and harming the economy.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"If God loves a cheerful giver, then why do INCult and some religions make it a burdensome and harrowing experience?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,Offerings! Offerings!! Count how many times they said the bible verse 2 Corinthians 9:7.. and Hello Macedonians! Lmao,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"The minister opened with, “We do not give offering to anyone on earth, but to God in heaven.”
Now, I read the comments here before the service so tried to remain unbiased. I still came to the same conclusions.
Let me preface by also saying, this lesson was a complete mess. It was completely disorganized and distracted. It was hard to follow going back and forth and back again, but I digress.
Hebrews 13:15-16 NKJV
“Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name. But do not forget to do good and to share, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.”
This verse doesn’t specifically say to give to the church. Hearing this verse and reading many other translations, it sounds like giving to those who need it.
Further.. the minister eventually went on to:
II Corinthians 9:12-13 NKJV
“For the administration of this service not only supplies the needs of the saints, but also is abounding through many thanksgivings to God, while, through the proof of this ministry, they glorify God for the obedience of your confession to the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal sharing with them and all men,”
For easier translation:
2 Corinthians 9:12-13 CEV
“What you are doing is much more than a service that supplies God's people with what they need. It is something that will make many others thank God. The way in which you have proved yourselves by this service will bring honor and praise to God. You believed the message about Christ, and you obeyed it by sharing generously with God's people and with everyone else.”
Again, it seems like the Apostles were to bring the money to another part of the world, to aid the other servants of God. The first time the minister read it, I concluded it was to give to others, but it was completely misinterpreted.
The second time we revisited this verse in the lesson, it was to service the needs of all brethren. Awesome! On point. Then the minister proceeded to say that the offerings were used to administer us and for propagation, specifically Gods Message and incmedia (“propagation”)
Outside of the fact the incmedia only seems to make church rap or brown-nosing EVM, that’s a complete waste of money and the Pasugo, ain’t nobody reads that!
Which leads me to believe, that the offerings are meant to administer the church.
Lol. Not only do the ministers barely make enough to make a living OR plan for retirement, they barely have enough to get by. The brethren pick up the slack.
Meanwhile, EVM is preaching (arguing with the detractors as form of preaching) in a couple thousand dollar suit, has a private jet to take him everywhere, and has a fat house and first class living situation I’m sure.
Is that fair? That sounds, again, like someone that wants to be worshipped, kinda how everyone and they mama prays for EVM and Jesus is an afterthought.
There were other points in the lesson when the apostles seemed to give “reasoning for needing money, etc, and it legit came off as someone that was a con artist. Over explaining, taking about people from far away that were struggling.
Either way, this lesson was so frustrating to listen to and this went on way longer than I intended.
",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"The Iglesia Ni Cristo definition of voluntary offering:
""It is your ***responsibility*** to *offer voluntarily*"" which equates to: ""*You have to give*, what you give is up to you ***but you have to give***.""
Umm No. That is not voluntary. That is involuntary i.e. compulsory which is the inverse of what you clowns keep yapping on about.
Idiots... just idiots.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"Q. Why don't they just buy a printing press and print their own money?
A. It's far easier to steal it from their members!
If god is so all-powerful, they must be able to do anything without money. God does NOT need money...only the flesh needs money...the greedy flesh of EVM / INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"Basically today’s lesson:
INC: Offer voluntarily, cheerfully, from the heart.
Also INC: Offer because it’s required.
Way to not sound contradictory at all there, INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"The problem with EVM and his evil ministers is that they read the word sharing as offerings in the bible. Even if the whole context of the verse is about sharing or giving to the needy, they tend to manipulate the verses so they become offering which only EVM and his evil ministers benefit. I have been fooled my entire life about this. Reading the bible myself helped me to realized that this church of EVM have corrupted the bible so much for their own selfish gain. The bottom line is, God doesn't need my money or anyone's money. It's only the leaders that need them so giving very little or not giving at all only hurts the butt of the evil men in the church.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"We want your money .... now
Even if you haven't any !!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"The self-proclaimed ""One True Church"", ""Fastest Growing Religion"" is begging for money.
If any of the above claims were true there wouldn't be a need to have repetitive services to rally the sheeple to give money.
So which is it? Is the Iglesia Ni Cristo a church of lies or is the church administration simply incompetent that it fails to properly manage this so called religious organization?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,Kinakalakal nila salita ng Diyos,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"Manalo inc cult is so obsessed with money. Money is the very center of this cult. The cult obviously use their god, the bible, hardships, calamities, to amass money, to name a few.. May it be someone's failure or success, the cult use each opportunity to suck up money. Did you notice every sunday WS? Before you get in, you will be collected lagak, before you get out you will be collected again (abuloyan). Only a fool does not get that.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,Why this manalo inc cult love money soooo much??!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"The coffer is bare. EVM needs money and that a simple reminder to the brethren is not enough hence it need to make this into a one hour sermon to drive the need.
Oh well the can try to squeeze as tight as they want but nothing will come from it as everybody is just affected by this pandemic.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"Iniignore ko na lang mga teksto sa hatdog (handog) hatdog na yan. Binibigay ko either punit na P20 or yung pinakabulok kong 5,10,25 cents or piso. hahahaha. Para mas mapikon yung mga nagbibilang.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"Puro na lng abuloy,handugan,lingap atb.ang gustong leksyon ng pangangasiwa ni EVM.Bugbog na c Macedonia sa walang ulit na pangongonsensya para mag abuloy ng malaki.
Wala na bang pakiramdam ang pamamahalang ito at sa gitna ng hirap ng mga kapatid puro abuloy pa din ang alam nyong sabihin? Maawa nman kayo sa mga kapatid karamihan isang kahig isang tuka gusto nyo pa kunin lahat? Nauubos na nga lahat ng oras sa dami ng pulong at gawain sa kapilya. Napapabayaan na ang sariling pamilya dahil buong sanlinggo nasa kapilya, aba'y maawa nman kayo gumagastos din yan. May mga anak na bihira na makita ang ama dahil pag uwi ng bahay alis agad punta sa kapilya. Sobra na kayo! At eto meron na namang Malakihang Tanging Handugan sa March 6-7,2021 bukod pa sa darating na March 27-28,2021 Worldwide Offering para sa Eco farming sa Africa.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"And the ministerial worker repeatedly says ""We're not talking about how big or small your offering is.""
Wrapped up the sermon with a guilt trip:
If one of the family members won't abide with the words of God then the whole household will not be blessed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,Right? Ugh... so many thoughts on this lesson.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"Voluntary but if you lost your job and can't give, all the more you should give because maybe it's because you're not giving enough that you're in your situation you're in right now...what?
this lesson was all over the place, anyone who was really listening can see right through the bs, and the Church demanding ""more money""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,How can you be cheerful when your family is in poverty and hungry while being guilt tripped into giving more than you can afford for manalo inc.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"shit, im going to WS later...you might have spoiled it for me😂",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"What else is new? That’s been the same shit since I joined 20 years ago but they’re more vocal now. Desperate times call for desperate actions. They will do anything short of rubbing people with automatic rifle.
I’m so grateful that my family and I left. I wish members would open their eyes for what INC is all about and stop making excuses for them.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,AGAIN?!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,Spot on. How I understood the verses is that doing good is to share to the needy and this is what pleases God. It is very clear that the offerings made by the members should be used to help others who are in need. We are in the middle of pandemic and a lot of the members are in need and yet EVM is doing nothing to help them. This alone validates the fact that the offerings are not being used to their main purpose.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,">Money money money!
Yup totally! 🙄 Must pay to get to the Filipino heaven or aka manalo heaven 💩",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,Because they want to continue the lifestyle that they were born and accustomed to. These are people who never did an honest work.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"Maybe to make up for not being able to generate income from the Philippine Arena?
Ohhh and by the way they also promoted a virtual tour of the INC Museum. Wonder if it's free?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"INC's favorite verses are: 1 Corinthians 5:13, 2 Corinthians 9:7, Acts 20:28 Lamsa, Isaiah 43:5 and 6, Isaiah 46:11, Hebrews 13:17, Revelation 21:8. You are almost guaranteed to hear one of these in every worship service.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"Keep your money. So what if you have to attend WS, just don’t give any. If the deacon-deaconness stands in front of you during collection, just look at them in the eye and say that you’re broke. Seriously what can they do? Scream at you?
Or better yet, don’t attend.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"Uwu, just sleep then.. but anyhow, it will make you fall asleep lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 27 - Mar 02, 2021)",ltfqak,2021-02-26,"Perhaps someone ought to provide a translation for the word ‘coerced’ to that minister. They’re typical of all religious organizations with always money in mind. However, I understand why they have to ask money because without it INC ceases to exist but their greed is so apparent. It’s so disconcerting!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ltfqak/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_27_mar_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"Gossipers aren’t allowed in the INCult?! Hypocrites!
If you have to report another member who’s done something wrong to you, you have to make a long letter explaining the situation with your full name and signature attached to it. What happens to your case? NONE. The minister will just talk to both parties and say nonsensical bullshit bible verses until the complainant and the accused are both guilt tripped and be okay again. You think everything’s fine and dandy? WRONG. The secretariats and other church officers in your locale will gossip about this. Oh how they love to beat people up when they’re down.
Either be the topic of their conversation or suck it up and shut up. That’s why most INCult members try to have a positive image in their locale. Self-absorbed stuck ups indeed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"The cult is discouraging members to escalate their concerns to the local or national court, or even barangays. The reason? They don't want INC's reputation to be ruined. What a selfish organization. They don't care about the member's basic human rights as long as INC's image will not be tainted. Ministers paint a picture by giving just a few examples of complaints/conflict: unsettled debts between members & 'chismisan'. How about physical abuse? Rape? Cyberbullying? Or other matters that needs legal intervention? OWEs, remember, the function of the court is to examine legal disputes between parties & carry out the administration of justice in accordance to the law. Ministers don't have that capability (Do they even study about law during their ministerial education?) That is so dumb to dismiss the power of the court. I wonder how OWEs taking up law would feel about this certain doctrine.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"**Hymns**
* 208 (Officers’ Prayer Hymn)
* 324: “Please Accept Our Worship Service”
* 57: “May Our Lips Be Holy”
* Don’t you just love lecture hymns? I guess only those who are part of the administration or a die-hard OWE.
* 46: “His Love, Faithful And True”
* Don’t let the title deceive you, for this is a duty/submission hymn.
* 394: “Do Not Grieve The Spirit Of The LORD”
* The best way I can describe it is: Hymn 57 (see above) meets hymn 154 (“Cleanse Your Heart”, aka “Is your weary heart offended?”).
* 182: “My Soul Eagerly Waits”
* Your typical pre-sermon feel-good showtune, er, hymn.
* The would-be offertory this month is 17 (“Our Offering”). Let’s see...it’s a lecture hymn that mentions duty and obedience...and it’s about spreading “God’s” work...nope, nothing to see here!
* 292: “Our Lord Jesus Will Soon Return”
* Recessional hymn, and by hymn, I mean showtune
*Sermon details to be posted*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"A relative outlier, and it's not so bad. However:
1. In-depth, this lesson just bares the hypocrisy of the INC leadership and status quo
2. Leave it to a minister to somehow be able to connect ""Christian brotherly love"" to the 6 fruit campaign and abounding in offerings
3. Making up for its own sake doesn't fix things between people, it's only more likely to breed enmity. You can't dictate how a hurt person should feel
4. People who despise their brothers are murderers who will be sent to damnation? See you in hell, EVM",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"Quotes from this service:
- “do not help those who are lazy for it is the word of God” wtf who are you to judge who is “lazy” do you know what a person is going through that they need help?
- “do not cheat” proceeds to use borrowing money as an example but didn’t use cheating on their wives as an example because lol too many OWEs were gonna feel personally attacked
- “settle disputes with other members in church and not in court”, “don’t let outsiders/unbelievers be the judge in your dispute” gorl, you gonna know how to settle an eviction? Broken contract? Slander? Assault? Abuse?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"**Sermon**
* ""Loving the Brotherhood is a Commandment of God""
* [1 Peter 2:17](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+2%3A17&version=NKJV)
* [John 13:34-35](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+13%3A34-35&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 23:8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+23%3A8&version=NKJV)
* [1 John 3:17](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+3%3A17&version=NKJV)
* [2 Thessalonians 3:6](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+3%3A6&version=NKJV)
* [2 Thessalonians 3:11-12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+3%3A11-12&version=NKJV)
* [2 Thessalonians 3:10](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+3%3A10&version=NKJV)
* [James 5:9](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+5%3A9&version=NKJV)
* [1 Peter 3:8-9](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+3%3A8-9&version=NKJV)
* [1 Peter 3:10](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+3%3A10&version=NKJV)
* [1 Corinthians 6:8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+6%3A8&version=NKJV)
* [1 Corinthians 6:6](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+6%3A6&version=NKJV)
* [1 Corinthians 6:4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+6%3A4&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 18:15-17](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+18%3A15-17&version=NKJV) (*Break between each verse*)
* [Ephesians 2:12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2%3A12&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 5:23-26](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A23-26&version=NKJV)
* [Ephesians 4:32](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+4%3A32&version=NKJV)
* [1 John 3:15](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+3%3A15&version=NKJV)
* [1 John 3:14](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+3%3A14&version=NKJV)
**My Comments & Observations**
* If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat"" ([2 Thess. 3:10](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+3%3A10&version=NKJV)). Well then, how does that explain a certain Mr. Manalo?
* ""And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you"" ([Eph. 4:32](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+4%3A32&version=NKJV)). Again, how does that explain he-who-shall-not-be-named (not only with what he did to his own family, but also with what he's doing to the entire church)? Of course my worker wouldn't address this...
* I take it asking the executive minister (I'm not going to bother capitalizing that.) himself to practice what he preaches is too much...which is why he *always* preaches ""eMbRaCe YoUr MeMbErShIp"" and ""dEpReSsIoN iS a No-No"" instead of ""love thy brother and sister.""
* It's high time the administration and its minions stop being busybodies ([2 Thess. 3:11](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+3%3A11&version=NKJV)) and stop creeping through the brethren's social media accounts! If they truly believed they were doing God's work, they shouldn't be this paranoid, should they?
* Ah, the good omission and shuffling of verses...I bet the upcoming PPV this weekend \*barfs everywhere\* will have these in spades!
* Like last weekend, I peeked at the worker's cheat-sheet. I only saw the title and didn't want to look any more suspicious than I'm sure I did earlier, so I don't know exactly what translations were used. Like the last few times, I linked to the NKJV since it seems to serve as the ministers'/workers' ""default.""
* Of course my worker and many others' would somehow link the lesson to the church activities, especially the propagational ones.
* Yup...3 lecture hymns in a row followed by a showtune lead up to this.
* Speaking of the hymns, does anyone's minister/worker stand on the 3rd hymn? I wish mine did; I can't remember the last time he spared us from the 4th hymn.
EDIT: Formatting",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,We had a change of minister half way through. First time that happened. I could see a lot of people falling asleep. I was happily listenibg to Sisters of Mercy with a drink of Cider,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"Heck, we have hymn number 57 and yet most of the members, even the ministers do not uphold it. The cult is full of gossip makers and badmouths other religions 😩
Anyway, I do think that members are not allowed to file a lawsuit to another member because of INC's reputation will be at stake. I don't believe it is because of what is written on the Bible per se. Hmmm..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"INC-EVM members are the biggest hypocrites in the world. They never practice what they preach.
I know a head deacon who was part of a networking scheme. A lot of the brethren joined him because of his marketing technique. This head deacon even boasted that a lot of Net 25 workers have joined this scheme too. To cut the story short, the company or whatever you call it was reported and investigated by the government. To no surprise, it is actually a pyramiding scam guised on investment. A lot of the brethren lost thousands of pesos. Some lost hundreds of thousands. These brethren reported that head deacon to the central but to no avail just because he has a son in law that is a minister. Right now, this scum is still a head deacon.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"What's funny is that people that usually report you don't even follow protocol or what's written in the verses, like actually approaching the brother or sister that they see doing wrong or offended them, they go straight up to the resident minister or head deacon, and then next thing you know you find out someone reported you and you'll never find out who it is... and the minister or deacon doesn't even advise that brother or sister to talk to you first but instead you're in trouble.......\*reported out of love\*..........what a joke... come approach me personally cowards...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,Long one today !!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"Not the end of the worship service and them showing on a PowerPoint presentation of all the people who has tried to bear fruit or some shit and one guy there being like. newly converted a year ago getting 30 mfing about to be converts and 6 converts already and the minister calling the people who didn't try to convert other people as lazy as association to the first verse of the worship service uhm chile anyway so...
BUT YEAH USUAL SHIT YKNOW JUST ??? love your brothers unless they're lazy or they don't do the shit that the cult tells theeeeem... Don't send them to the barangay if they do something because that means you don't LOVE your bretheren or some shit just. UHM,,
YEAH not much to say other than the usual hypocrisy",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"Exactly, hypocrisy is strong in that cult",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,">Gossipers aren’t allowed in the INCult?!
Wow, really? GOSSIPING is their culture and their national past time. My OWE in-laws alone gossip like there is no tomorrow.
One time we had a get together at my house (pre-pandemic) and of course they all came. Anyway, they all gathered in my family room while I was preparing food. They were bad mouthing everyone that they know from church, from that person's appearances, someone got fat and turned ugly, someone having sex with someone's wife and or husband, somebody having gay sex, or someone love watching porn, or someone cheated on their income tax and or real estate investments, etc. Unbelievable!
If words could kill, they probably murdered the entire members. I couldn't take it anymore that I had to tell them that they ought to be ashamed of themselves and I asked them to leave and I was glad that my husband sided with me.
Neverheless, they didn't leave. I'm always flabbergasted as to why they love hanging out in my house despite that we've kept our distance since leaving.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"You nailed it,they do it for the sake of reputation",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,Keep up the good work.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,Thank you for this 👍,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,I plan on following that first one by not helping the church administration. lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"Oh man, time to set up a pyramid scheme with members since suing another member is wrong. /s",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,The instruction is to stand in the 4th always now.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,I’ve seen this happen the past few weeks. I find it odd that they have two ministers for one worship service.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"I use to see this all the time (10 to 15 years ago). Recently, not so much.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,Totoo to! Mga may tungkulin pa nangunguna sa chismis! HAHAHAHHA akala ko sa lokal lang namen,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"KAPA? Lmfao
I'm imagining *no one* got the boot, though.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"They're all cowards. They're trapped in a cult and have developed learned helplessness. They are not masters of their domain... They're slaves. They follow and obey. So when they see something they don't like, they do what victims do and snitch. They don't have agency to openly question the church, what makes you think they have agency to confront someone?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"You know why? Because most INC members believe that since they have first debs to God that they are always forgiven no matter what sins or crimes they've committed. Ergo, the crying and the howling during WS, as if they're being tortured. Or on the flip side, they seriously don't have any morals or ethics and they just pretend to cry, all an act!
So yes I agree with you, hypocrisy!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,Unbelievable indeed.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,Thanks! Will do,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,You’re welcome!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,Drat...if only that were the instruction when the hymns were still halfway decent and still actually rhymed...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,I wonder if they're running out of locales or could be low memberships.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,Kahit saan yan tatak na nila yan,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,so true,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"All that hypocritical bs was another reason to my rebellious attitude while we were still in. I too, was the one looking around laughing in my head as the others wept and howled. Lol 😆",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,"Right!? The poetry and musicality are all gone. In English, the language is awkward at best.
It’s sad that a song by Eminem is more inspiring than a hymn that’s supposed to be for God.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,That was my thought too.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 03 - Mar 05, 2021)",lwkn1w,2021-03-02,Ganyan ako! Lol lagi ako nakamini skirt para inisin pa sila lalo tapos ang saya lang kasi halatang may inggit sa titig nila 😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lwkn1w/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_03_mar_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"Happy to see this group has an ex page. You came on my radar as I was leaving my cult, Jehovah’s Witnesses. The similarities between the two are astounding.
I hope you can grow like the r/exjw group has over the years! The support is so important and necessary when we leave a group like this.
We were only 2,000 a few years ago. Now 60,000+ .... and JW leadership is feeling the heat. Constant talk about us apostates in literature & in their videos.
You have many allies from r/exjw r/exmormon r/exmuslim
Best of luck to you all!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"**Sermon**
* Typical start of announcing anniversaries
* Matthew 24:13 (Plain English; re-read in [Expanded](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24%3A13&version=EXB))
* Manalo himself read/paraphrased this verse. These are the only instances in which translations are named. All links after this point lead to the NKJV of each respective verse.
* [2 Corinthians 4:18](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+4%3A18&version=NKJV)
* [Isaiah 65:17-19](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+65%3A17-19&version=NKJV)
* [Luke 21:7, 11, 27](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+21%3A7%2C+11%2C+27&version=NKJV)
* [Isaiah 45:22](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+45%3A22&version=NKJV)
* [Micah 7:8, 7](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Micah+7%3A8%2C+7&version=NKJV)
* [Psalms 91:14-16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+91%3A14-16&version=NKJV)
* [1 Samuel 12:24](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+12%3A24&version=NKJV)
* [2 Corinthians 6:6](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+6%3A6&version=NKJV)
* [2 Kings 20:1-6](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Kings+20%3A1-6&version=NKJV)
* [Psalms 25:15](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+25%3A15&version=NKJV)
* [Psalms 61:1-5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+61%3A1-5&version=NKJV)
* [Isaiah 58:11](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+58%3A11&version=NKJV)
* Usual ending spiel
**Hymns**
* 235 (Officers’ Prayer Hymn)
* First verse mentions how we ""still remain inside Your dear Church""
* 326: “We Adore And Worship You""
* Typical hymn of praise
* 393: ""Unite In True Obedience""
* Lengthy (4 verses and a longer-than-usual refrain sung twice) lecture hymn
* 365: ""It Is Now Time To Lead A New Life""
* submission/obedience hymn
* 191
* This hymn dragged because they played it at about half its usual speed.
* 423 (Hymn Before Sermon): “Submit To The Father’s Will”
* obedience/submission hymn that includes:
* “Do not rely on your own understanding”
* “Never let your own desire rule your way of living”
* 298 (Recessional Hymn)
**Other Comments/Observations**
* Tuloy Tally: 46
* At least 7 of these occured during the reading of [Micah 7:8, 7](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Micah+7%3A8%2C+7&version=NKJV) (yep, in that order...).
* Total PPV: 1 hour, 38 minutes
* For fear of attracting unwanted attention, I didn't time the prayers this go-around, nor did I catch how long Manalo's sermon lasted. Let's just say all those times are long!
* For you ministers who keep praying for Manalo, why don't you just build a statue in his honor already? Everyone already knows it's what you not-so-secretly want.
* ""Or-DARE-li-ness,"" says the high-pitched Blurryface in the officers' opening prayer.
* As usual, Manalo's reader looks extremely aggravated. Can you blame him? He's probably thinking, ""That's not how we rehearsed it last night!"" or, ""Would you stop interrupting me already?"" or even, ""You literally just said, 'Tuloy!' 3 times within a 4 second span!""
* I wonder if Mr. Matt Pareja misses doing his (in)famous, ""AaAaAhHmMmAaAaAhH!"", complete with hysterical howl-crying in the background, during these Manalo movies.
* So far this year, these Manalo movies have occurred monthly. Now if only they occurred, well, never again.
* Does whoever outlines these ""lessons"" ""accidentally"" shuffle the verses arbitrarily? Worse, do they ""forget"" certain verses even exist?
Edited for fluency",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"Takeaways/Context
- God is the solution to all our problems.
- It is not enough that we should be a member of Church of Christ to attain salvation. We need to have a clean/righteous state of living (malinis na pamumuhay)
- Word of the day: Sincere / Sinsero
- We should not be sad if one dies as Iglesia ni Cristo because he already finished his race. What the?
- First part talking about how near we are on judgment day, earthquakes, poverty and diseases. For me, they just update the statistics / cite new news source to prove it
- Prayers for EVM checklist: prayers after singing of hymns - check; prayers after sermon - check; prayers of officers after WS - check.
Note: Prayers after singing of hymns took about 2-3 mins praying for him. Correct me if I'm wrong",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"Praying Minister: ""Siya (EVM) po ang maghahatid samin sa langit sa araw ng paghuhukom""
Me: 🤮",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,Currently watching the the UFC fight while PPV is going on heheeh,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"Best EVM streaming lesson ever. Wife is out of town with my youngest child visiting family, so she says make sure you attend the service. Turned on my laptop, connected, and then turned down the volume, and turned on some college basketball. I was a few seconds late standing up for one of the mind numbingly long prayers, but I don't think anyone noticed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,Offerings were not mentioned at all. 😶,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,Yes. Another ex Jehovah's Witness here as well. I learned of INC through my filipino girlfriend. She says INC and JW are so similar. Learning about other high control groups is helpful in seeing that we are not alone. Sending much love!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,Thank you 💐,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"Wow thank you, jordanwiththefade! Who knew us apostates of different former faiths could come together like this? It’s amazing! Best of luck to you as well!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"Thank you for all your hard work. 🌻
I'm just so glad that my family and I don't have to listen to all this pile of shit. I hate PPV - it's never ending EVM and his little sidekick's caterwauling! The screaming was relentless as if someone was getting turtored.
I never understood why they have to scream during the sermon and during the prayers. I guess they assume that members and God are deaf? Nevertheless, I'm happy I don't have to listen, sit and waste my precious time listening to this narcissistic individual.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"Isaiah 45:22 has “ends of the earth”. Nowadays INCult is blatantly stating that
“ends of the earth” = INC
I remember EVM saying when coming across that term “ends ....” , “tayo yun mga kapatid” (Bible is talking about INC) then like a used car salesman he closes the scam with “kaya ingatan niyo ang inyong pagiging kaanib or kahalalan” (take care of your membership).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,">For you ministers who keep praying for Manalo, why don't you just build a statue in his honor already? Everyone already knows it's what you not-so-secretly want.
There is already a Felix Manalo statue erected by his burial site. I notice there are usually two or three people around it all the time and I think ""praying"" to him!
Wow, **worshiping graven statues/images.**
**(Have you noticed all the photographs of Felix Manalo that are circulated even to this day!)**
People do not even have ONE picture of God and only a rendition of the likeness of Christ, but many people know what Felix Manalo looks like.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,No idea. Had Fatboi Eddy minimised. Listenibg to Abba Gold. Watching Baseball ⚾,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"Did EVM made up his own translation of sincere to sinsero. I am not a deep Tagalog expert but I don’t think that translation is valid.
BTW, EVM also made up a translation to a proper noun, Martin Luther. He addressed him as Martin Lutero. It was about the Revelation 14 prophecy. He said that Felix is in there with Martin Lutero.
sincere - SINCERO
Luther- LUTERO
Christ - CRISTO (shouldn’t it be Kristo since there is no C in the abakada.)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"Is it the ordaining of the ministers? I'm sick of hearing, ""Young men should consider in going to the ministry"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"So basically, the great leader just replaced Jesus...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,I don't even stand. Just move my chair to the side.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,but they still asked for it after the lesson lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"Careful, man. They probably have tabs on the few locales that were not among the PPV WS.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,Crazy similar. Good on you for getting out. Cheers!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"These groups are like houses that are all built the same, but with different decor (ideology/terminology).
There is great power in numbers. Especially when leaving, the goal of the group is for us to feel alone and isolated. That is why we all need to stick together and support one another.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"Hi AG, did you marry a member of the INC? I did and it was a very complicated and difficult marriage.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,Yooo i was trying so hard to stay awake waiting for lutero 🤣 i missed it i guess my nap was so good,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,It's just my translation. Sorry if it caused you confusion,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,Nope. It's not!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,I switch off way just after the last Amen !!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"True! We must all come together as we all fully understand what has been done to us and many others, even though we are from different organizations. It is those similarities that bond us and allow us to stay strong even when our respective religions made us feel weak!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,Yes. I married in Hong Kong. Dead easy !!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,Marriage has its ups and downs. Church is a big flash point for argument. Otherwise all ok,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"I am sorry. EVM said it awhile back when I was still attending. Not to rub it in, but I already stopped attending the brainwashing sessions. Sorry again",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"My bad EVM if you are reading this.
But I am still calling EVM out for the Martin Lutero",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"Do you mean a civil ceremony in Hong Kong, or do you mean an INC ceremony in Hong Kong?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"No worries man, happy for you!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,Isn't EvilM?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,Civil ceremony,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,"Yup, civil ceremonies in HK are dead easy, however INC will not recognize the union (not that it matters). I am surprised that your wife has not been expelled though.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 06 - Mar 09, 2021)",lytjis,2021-03-05,She has !! But they still let her attend. I have done Bible study shit. Soon to be baptised. Then I'm out,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,"The subject is so goddamn timely. Someone at Central noticed the recent stream of posts here about dinuguan and non-INC in relationships with OWEs. And I don't know if it's just in my locale, but ministers have been dialing back on segues praising the admin.
**joke's on you, eduardo, my SO was already a nonbeliever handog long before i began questioning your cult lmfao**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,"**Sermon**
* ""It is God Who Forbids the Eating of Blood and Marrying an Unbeliever""
* [Genesis 2:16-17](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%202%3A16-17&version=NKJV)
* [Genesis 3:17-19, 23-24](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3%3A17-19%2C+23-24&version=NKJV)
* [Genesis 9:1-4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+9%3A1-4&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 21:25](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+21%3A25&version=NKJV)
* [Deuteronomy 12:22-23](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+12%3A22-23&version=NKJV)
* [Leviticus 17:11](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+17%3A11&version=NKJV)
* [Hebrews 10:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+10%3A1&version=NKJV)
* [Hebrews 9:13-14](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+9%3A13-14&version=NKJV)
* [Leviticus 17:12-13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+17%3A12-13&version=NKJV)
* [Leviticus 17:10](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+17%3A10&version=NKJV)
* [Hebrews 10:27](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+10%3A27&version=NKJV)
* [2 Corinthians 6:14-15](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+6%3A14-15&version=NKJV)
* My worker reread 14 before proceeding to 15.
* [Deuteronomy 7:2-4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+7%3A2-4&version=NKJV)
* [Nehemiah 13:26-27](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Nehemiah+13%3A26-27&version=NKJV)
* [1 John 2:15-17](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+2%3A15-17&version=NKJV)
* [Proverbs 19:14](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+19%3A14&version=NKJV)
* [1 Thessalonians 4:3-5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Thessalonians+4%3A3-5&version=NKJV)
* [Matt 15:4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+15%3A4&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 19:5-6](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+19%3A5-6&version=NKJV)
**Hymns**
* 183
* 319: ""Until the End, We Will Worship and Serve You, Father""
* Woe to the altos and basses during the unison part... Are they not called ""alto"" or ""bass"" for a reason?
* 40
* lecture hymn
* 144
* 247
* Somebody on the higher-ups must really like this hymn, considering it seems to play at least every other month.
* 176
* includes a lyric that instructs the worshipers to ""always remain within the CHURCH OF CHRIST till the end of all our days""
* 292
**Other Comments & Observations**
* The Bible instructs its believers to ""abstain from sexual immorality"" ([1 Thessalonians 4:3](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Thessalonians+4%3A3&version=NKJV)), yet how many INCers (especially officers and ministers) have violated that?
* [Matthew 15:4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+15%3A4&version=NKJV): ""For God commanded, saying, 'Honor your father and your mother'; and, 'He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.' "" Can someone tell me what translation EVM had in mind when he decided to expel not just his mother but also his brother?
* Leave it to my worker to shoehorn the fact that INC is (supposedly) in 160 countries/territories into a lesson about not consuming blood or marrying unbelievers.
* If everyone in INC only courted/married within the INC, would this ""church"" have nearly as many members as it does today, even with its freefalling numbers?
* Heck, maybe this is more for the safety/sanity of those *outside* the ""church"" than inside. To anyone outside considering joining, *don't do it!*
* Don't you just love how the administration shuffles and omits verses to their liking (such as today's Leviticus 17 verses)?
* I don't understand why they didn't just make this ""lesson"" 2 separate topics.
* Another day, another batch of commonly-played hymns (and I use that term loosely). Leave it to the INC to have 500+ hymns (not even counting the one-time hymns such as processionals, hymns for bread/juice, others) yet sing not even half of them.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,"I just saw the lesson for today.. ""It's God who forbids eating of blood and marrying a non-member.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,"Lesson was about abstaining from sexual immorality? Why not eduardo check the members of his family? Rumors circulating the web was that her youngest daughter (the wife of pusit) was pregnant during the wedding, and the child was born few months after the wedding..hmmmmm",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,Another yawn fest,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,"Right BASICALLY it's lowkey just...
""Ay don't u mfing dare eat blood or marry/date a non member or you won't be saved and God will go APESHIT on your ASS.""
Also abt how uhhhh, , parents shoukd know absolutely everything abt someone's love life and how. How you shoukdnt divorce someone?? And how *why don't you wanna?? Mfing date an Inc person some of them are hot as fuck??*
Yknow typical stuff
Basically regurgitated bs ✨",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,"Did the rules change?? Our minister said in the lesson, multiple times, that the only ones allowed to date, are the ‘Kadiwas that own houses’.
He read the verse about getting married and leaving father and mother and then said the only way to be able to do that is by ‘having your own house’.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,">I don't know if it's just in my locale, but ministers have been dialing back on segues praising the admin.
No it's not just in Central but here as well. My husband said that his mom pretty much described the recent lesson.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,"Looks like the worship service lesson was one of the 28 lessons from the fundamental beliefs you are taught when joining the church and it is really just a lazy attempt at a sermon, just steal lesson 21 (if I recall) and just add a bit of negative bashing to the top. If 2 cor 6:14 mentioned ""do not unite in marriage"" then it was the Lamsa version, 6:15 Lamsa would have mentioned a comparison between Christ and Satan. But then they change it to not having a romantic relationship with a non member (2 Cor 6:14 NKJV) and to be honest many non INC have dated INC because they realize how stupid this is because the smart thinking ones know that love is kind. This rule was introduced by Erano Manalo in the 1980's. They preach lessons like this because their priority is to expel anybody who do not follow the strict rules. 247 has been a popular hymn since the year it was written in 2014, 144 probably not as commonly played but makes occasional appearances a bit like 151 for example. But yeah some hymns are rarely if ever sung.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,Deja vu...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,">Lesson was about abstaining from sexual immorality?
Seriously, FYM used to beat up his wife and he raped some young female members. He married (eloped) one of the girls who were underage and his wife wasn't even cold in the grave.
And do you know how many INC members that I know (including my husband's side of the family) who were and still are immoral? His own father fathered several illegitimate children to different women (both members and non members) and INCULT administration looked the other way. His own siblings and cousins cheated on their spouses and they never gotten into trouble by the governing body of EVM.
One of my coworkers, a fellow RN, makes a habit of cheating on her husband on a regular basis and she's a choir member. I asked her if she ever felt any guilt? Guess what she said? ""Nope, cause God will forgive me and I'm clean all over again."" The arrogance!
It is disturbing of what these members do and what they're thinking and or their beliefs because it's not the norm of what an ethical and moral person is.
INCULT members have a long history of hypocrisy and the they continue to behave inappropriately because they're entitled that no matter what sins they committed (even murder) that they believe that God will always forgive them.
It's a blatant excuse against humanity.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,"> ""Ay don't u mfing dare eat blood or marry/date a non member or you won't be saved and God will go APESHIT on your ASS.""
Yawn.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,"What do you mean owning houses? So members who are renters can’t enter married life? How would INCULT know? Are they going to check every members financial reports and also their investment portfolios?
I have never heard of this before and I was inside for 20 years (you would think that I would have heard every shitty business about this cult).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,It's always dejavu. 🥺,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,"Damn I remember there’s like always theme for the month. Like Feb or March be about Sta. Cena, May be about Sugo, June be about weddings (I forgot if it was June), July be about establishment of INCult, November be about Halloween, and December be about Pasalamat (give big), Christmas, and New Year.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,Jan/Feb/Mar/Apr/May/Jun/Jul/Aug/Sep/Oct/Nov/Dec - Thanksgiving,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,"October - Birthday of the ""most important person""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,Truth.un ending offerings. Even the earth stops rotating. The offerings will not. 3things INC cant avoid. Tax.death.and offerings(money),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 10 - Mar 12, 2021)",m1otxy,2021-03-09,Also include special offerings as sub topic.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m1otxy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_10_mar_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,Had a warning before our BS about sending out meeting details to normal sensible people (non INM). And also not to watch Netflix while on WebEx.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,"Commenting again.. some of the hymns on this weekend ws were my favorites when I was still a choir member.. I don't know what to feel sometimes since I already knew the truth about this church. Sometimes, I feel like singing. But when I think about how I felt betrayed because of this church, I can't help but feel angry / disappointed / sad again..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,"**Hymns**
* 8
* 210
* 123
* ADDENDUM: 1st stanza mentions “the Father's punishment”; 2nd & 3rd each have the word “duty”
* 2nd stanza mentions living a new life; 3rd is about propagation
* [128](https://i.gyazo.com/28043ba75bc12b0f47c72190052f3622.png)
* 222
* 221
* 2nd verse mentions, “We must all remain devoted/Members of the CHURCH OF CHRIST”
* 292
* ADDENDUM: A lot of guilt-tripping hymns (namely the 3 hymns after 210, and even hymn 8). The hymnal itself might as well be re-named: *GILL: Guilt-Trips, Idolatry Galore, Lectures, and Lies: Volume Who Knows?*.
*Sermon details/comments posted in a [separate comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/gqt3tnw?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)*
Edit: format",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,"**Sermon**
* As others have mentioned, the sermon is about baptism. Because, as usual, my preacher never mentioned any translations, all following links lead to NKJV, the ""go-to"" translation from what I've seen in my region, unless otherwise stated.
* [Matthew 28:19](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+28%3A19&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 2:38](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+2%3A38&version=NKJV)
* [Mark 16:15-16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+16%3A15-16&version=NKJV)
* [Romans 6:3, 5, 4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+6%3A3%2C5%2C4&version=NKJV)
* [John 3:23](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3%3A23&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 8:38](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+8%3A38&version=NKJV)
* [Deuteronomy 12:32](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+12%3A32&version=NKJV)
* [Revelation 22:18-19](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+22%3A18-19&version=NKJV)
* (Repeat [Mark 16:15-16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+16%3A15-16&version=NKJV))
* (Repeat [Acts 2:38](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+2%3A38&version=NKJV))
* [1 John 3:4 (KJV?)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+3%3A4&version=KJV)
* I remember hearing archaic language during this verse; it didn't quite match the NKJV, but it might be a different translation.
* [Matthew 19:13-15](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19%3A13-15&version=NKJV)
* [Romans 6:11, 6](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+6%3A11%2C+6&version=NKJV)
* [Romans 6:4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+6%3A4&version=NKJV)
* [Galatians 3:27](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3%3A27&version=NKJV)
* [Galatians 2:20](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+2%3A20&version=NKJV)
* [Philippians 2:5, 8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2%3A5%2C+8&version=NKJV)
**My Comments/Observations**
* ...I'm sorry, why did they feel the need to shuffle the verses? Unless I missed something (and please correct me if I did), reading 5 before 4 or 11 before 6 makes no difference from reading the verses in sequential order. Do they run random number generators when outlining the lessons?
* [Deuteronomy 12:32](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+12%3A32&version=NKJV) states, ""...you shall not add to it nor take away from it,"" yet what has the INC been doing since 1913? The exact opposite of what this verse says, you say?
* Welp, I guess we now know what will happen (if it hasn't already) to, well, all the preachers in this so-called church ([Revelation 22:18-19](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+22%3A18-19&version=NKJV)). Tell me again why the last (and last, and last...) messenger(s) get lauded as much as they do?
* INC pressures baptismal candidates to get baptized ASAP, then proceeds to state that only those who believe should be baptized...
* [Philippians 2:8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2%3A8&version=NKJV) must be one of the verses the administration loves (ObEy AnD nEvEr CoMpLaIn...).
* Once again the preacher flaunts the (possibly alternative) fact that ThE cHurCh Is In 160 CoUnTrIeS aNd TeRrItOrIeS.
* Or maybe it's a real fact and a sizable chunk of that 160 has double- (or even single-) digit serial numbers. ""Quality over quantity"" apparently doesn't exist in the ~~Cult of Manalo~~ INC...
* EDIT: Hymn details/comments posted [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/gqrpk3m?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,Lesson for today: Dapat mabautismuhan upang maging alagad ni Cristo,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,"Been a while not having to attend hws. Panicked a little when I heard someone singing hymns for the hws and they read the lesson aloud (even though I had my earplugs on). Did everything I could to distract myself and avoid feeling triggered. Good thing I never picked up anything from the lesson, just being restless for a little while because of some flashback of trauma from attending those brainwashing sessions (WS).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,"Bakit yung verses na binanggit about baptism, parang not specifically meant na requirement for a valid baptism is only through immersion? More like giving the importance of baptism yung verses and not meant to be instructional.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,"Welcome to another episode of ""The Catholics are Wrong Because....""
* The Catholics are wrong for baptizing babies. Only those who are capable to be sorry for their sins should receive baptism. How can babies mourn for their sins? Also original sin is not true!
* Therefore, INCult members are forbidden to be godfathers (ninong/ninang) or sponsors to binyag (Catholic Christening ceremony)
* Therefore, to be baptized, you have to be atleast 12 years old, primed and brainwashed enough to receive baptism.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,"I generally don't listen to the lessons due to the repetitive nature and because I just don't care. But the last few minutes of the one today did peek my interest. They talked more about Jesus than any other time I can remember. They almost sounded like an actual Christian church. In that they actually talked about Christ. Something about putting on the armor of christ. Or skin, or something. I don't remember specifically.
But I can't help but wonder if the tone of the lessons is changing ever so slightly due to the criticisms here.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,123 and 128 Sta cena is in the air. So are the new covid variants,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,Seems that the topics are mostly repetitive...hmmm,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,"yeah, see each other in hell, they said... utter bs!
well, the right thing you did is to be in this subreddit and you did kind things to everyone.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,Wew. Thankfully I did not attend WS today.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,They always have the need to bash the Catholics in order to promote their message. Why the need to do that?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,Been an Iglesia for many years. No teksto on this.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,Sermon was about baptism.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,"Romans 6:3,5,4
This butchering practice of INCult to me is heresy and total disrespect to the ancient authors. How genius Paul wrote his letter to the Romans was not good enough. INCult BEM degree holders have to cut and paste it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,So who baptized Felix? Did he dunked himslef underwater?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,the same thing I did,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,The importance of context. They remove it and twist those verses to justify whatever INC-Manalo wants.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,"What's funny is that the verses are about conversion of those who were listening to Peter, hence they either were adults or old enough to repent. Jesus or the apostles never mentioned prohibition of baptizing babies.
This is aside from the fact that baptism is the new testament fulfillment of the old testament law of circumcision, which was generally done to male babies at ten days of age.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,"Maybe we shouldn’t give them any ideas. In their desperation, they might try to alter their ways by pleasing the members.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed.
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,Good for you 👍,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,Maybe because the majority of ppl in the PH are Catholic?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,I think they do this because they want to strengthen their brainwashing of those under indoctrination and the 'sinusuboks'.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,"On the contrary, there had been homilies on that topic, focusing on the story of how God lovingly and thoughtfully destroyed hundreds of Israelite families because their heads doubted an inherently questionable aspect of Moses' authority (apparently, he had the right to a much bigger share of resources because he's a guy of importance).
All while repeating their other favorite verses on the admin, of course.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,"Thank you! I’m a choir member (among other offices) and have access to the hymn lineups. Literally the only thing stopping me from leaving is my fear of what will happen to my parents should I lose my offices or membership. One day...
Edit: space/word",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,Lmao. My brainwashed self before didn't even think of it. Now your question makes sense.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 13 - Mar 16, 2021)",m3ym0n,2021-03-12,"Thank you for the cross check!
I actually zone out every time they give their explanation based on how they interpret the bible. I use that moment to replay in my mind the recipe videos for making brownies and donuts.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m3ym0n/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_13_mar_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"**Verses Read**
* *Part 1: Propagation*
* [Matthew 5:14-16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A14-16&version=NKJV)
* [Philippians 2:15](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2%3A15&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 5:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A13&version=NKJV)
* [Romans 8:21](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8%3A21&version=NKJV)
* [John 4:28-30](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+4%3A28-30&version=NKJV)
* [John 4:39, 41-42](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+4%3A39%2C41-42&version=NKJV)
* [Psalms 40:9-10 (GNT)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+40%3A9-10&version=GNT)
* [Philippians 4:3 (CEV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+4%3A3&version=CEV)
* *Part 2: Prayer*
* [Luke 18:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+18%3A1&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 26:41](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+26%3A41&version=NKJV)
* [Philippians 4:6](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+4%3A6&version=NKJV)
* [James 5:14-15](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+5%3A14-15&version=NKJV)
* [Luke 17:5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+17%3A5&version=NKJV)
* [Psalms 55:17](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+55%3A17&version=NKJV)
* [I Corinthians 10:31](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+10%3A31&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 6:9-12 (GNT)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6%3A9-12&version=GNT)
* [Hebrews 4:14-16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+4%3A14-16&version=NKJV)
* [John 15:16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+15%3A16&version=NKJV)
* [Mark 11:24 (NLV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+11%3A24&version=NLV)
* [James 1:6-8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+1%3A6-8&version=NKJV)
* [I John 3:22](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+3%3A22&version=NKJV)
* [Isaiah 30:18 (GNT)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+30%3A18&version=GNT)
* ~~NOTE: Barring~~ [~~Matthew 6:9-12~~](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6%3A9-12&version=NLT)~~, all other links lead to the NKJV. I tried to see which translation of said verses matched what my preacher read, and I believe it to be NLT. (Of course my preacher would neglect to mention the translations...)~~
* NOTE: After reading u/anggelwinsantos' post, I changed the links as necessary to the indicated translation. The others still lead to NKJV.
**My Comments/Observations**
* Leave it to my preacher to shoehorn the administration while explaining [Matthew 6:9-12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6%3A9-12&version=GNT), claiming we should also pray for them. Just last weekend, did he not read [Deuteronomy 12:32](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+12%3A32&version=NKJV) and [Revelation 22:18-19](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+22%3A18-19&version=NKJV)?
**Hymns & Commentary**
* 274: ""Serve And Worship Our God""
* This hymn is literally the only one in today's lineup where the singer actually sings to God. However, that only occurs in stanza two. The first part seems to be a lecture hymn in first person plural form.
* 315: ""We Give Praise And Thanks""
* [YouTube Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfVaJ5eClys)
* scary-sounding because of its chord progression (much use of minor chords/harmonic minor, many dissonant chords)
* last half of second stanza is about how we were called ""to His nation,"" where ""the precious hope of salvation lives"" in an attempt to keep the worshipers trapped
* The title just seems superficial, as the singer never truly sings to God (or Christ). Any instances of God refer to him in the third person.
* 31: ""Reach Out And Offer Now Your Help""
* propagation hymn meets lecture hymn
* ""Reach out and offer now your help/To all the souls that will be judged..."" yep, fearmongering lyrics of a fearmongering ""church""
* 151: ""Our Father Is So Generous With His Graces""
* INC: ""God's love is unconditional^(\[citation needed\]).""
* Also INC: ""Our Father is so generous...if you will place all your trust in Him.""
* Also Also INC: ""Our Father lovingly reserves/The great blessings that He will give/To His devoted chosen ones/True in renewing the lives they lead.""
* Nitpick: Don't you just love excessively long titles?
* lecture hymn
* 249: ""You Must Always Pray""
* [YouTube Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQgKr9FoQcw)
* lecture hymn
* 4: ""Let's Accept God's Teachings""
* lecture hymn (first person plural)
* 292: ""Our Lord Jesus Will Soon Return""
* If you like lecture hymns, this is the lineup for you!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"(Fair Use) Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED BY BROTHER ERAÑO G. MANALOWEDNESDAY/THURSDAY: MARCH 17/18, 2021
EACH MEMBER OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST SHOULD TAKE PART IN THE WORK OF SPREADING THE GOSPEL AND SHOULD LEARN HOW TO PRAY
Sharing our faith is one of the basic teachings that we, members of the Church Of Christ, firmly believe in and fulfill. Another basic teaching that we should also fulfill is praying to our Lord God and to our Lord Jesus Christ. We should fully benefit from our right to do so and from the blessings that it will bring to us. So, each of us should learn how to pray. Let us study these two important teachings.
It is our duty to share with our fellowmen the truth that it is only in the Church Of Christ where people can render to God the worship that is worthy before Him, and it is only here where salvation can be attained because, according to Matthew 5:14-16, we have been made lights of the world. Light is intended to shed light. One of the ways by which we can shed light on the people of this world is that we should be found doing good works.
Many people in this world are doing the works of darkness, which is why the world is in darkness. According to Phillipians 2:15, in the midst of darkness or of “a crooked and perverse generation”, we are expected to be without fault and blameless children of God. Therefore, we should be different from the people of the world. What must be found in us are the good works so we will shine as lights. By that, we will be able to encourage the people of this world to join the Church. Intensive renewal of life can help us in fulfilling our duty to spread the gospel.
Aside from being light, we are also likened to the salt of the earth, based on Matthew 5:13. We have been made salt of the earth because the people of the world are in the bondage of corruption, according to Romans 8:21. One of the uses of salt is to prevent or to fight decay—for example, of food. Thus, we should help in the work of spreading the words of God through our missionary works to set free those who have been enslaved by corruption and to bring them to salvation.
An easy way to share our faith is like what was done by the Samaritan woman to whom our Lord Jesus Christ spoke. Based on John 4:28-30, the Samaritan woman left her water pot—that is equivalent to putting aside for a moment her personal concerns—and went to the city to invite people to listen to Christ.
It is similar to the sacrifices of the many brethren in our time. They are ready to put aside for a moment their personal concerns so they can invite people who will listen to the preaching of the gospel. It is proven in John 4:39 and 41-42 that the Samaritan woman’s invitation to the people was effective. Many of them believed in our Lord Jesus Christ. The same result is obtained when many brethren invite people to listen during our evangelical missions. It should not be many brethren only but all should help and take part in the work of sharing our faith.
Let’s imitate the dedication to helping in the works of propagation that God’s servant back then did. In Psalm 40:9-10 (Good News Bible), he said: In the assembly of all your people, Lord, I told the good news that you save us. You know that I will never stop telling it. I have not kept the news of salvation to myself; I have always spoken of your faithfulness and help. In the assembly of all your people I have not been silent about your loyalty and constant love.
Even if we have helped in the propagation of the gospel in the past and bore fruit already, still, we should never stop fulfilling it. Let us continue to invite guests to our evangelical missions—whether they are being conducted in the house of worship, or on-air and online. Let us distribute God’s Message magazine and other pamphlets that we use in our propagation. Let us encourage our friends and acquaintances to tune in to our radio and television programs and to visit our websites. If, in your area, a place for Bible study sessions is needed and there is enough space in your home, you can allow it to be used as a place of missionary work and Bible study sessions.
The apostles made sure in Philippians 4:3 (Contemporary English Version) that the names of the brethren who help in the work of propagation are written in the book of life or they will be saved. Thus, helping in the work of spreading the gospel has a great bearing on our salvation. Let us not be lazy about it or be regretful of our sacrifices when we fulfill this obligation.
For us to victoriously uphold this holy endeavor and for us to remain steadfast whatever we encounter in life, let us fulfill what our Lord Jesus Christ taught in Luke 18:1 that we should always pray so we will not lose heart.
Based on Matthew 26:41, prayer is also what is needed so we can overcome all temptations. Our Lord Jesus Christ had already tested and proven that in His life, which is why that is what He has been teaching us. If we obey this, no matter how many and severe the temptations coming to our lives are, we can also overcome them.
If we would feel worried because of the severity of our problems, let us do what the apostles advise in Philippians 4:6: Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God;
May it be that we are fulfilling this advice. Family devotional prayer should be well-established in our respective homes, and we conduct the Iglesia Ni Cristo Family Hour. In James 5:14-15, it is being taught what other benefit we can gain from praying: Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.
And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.
Those referred to as elders of the Church are the ministers, deacons, and deaconesses. Let us firmly believe that through prayer with the anointing of oil, God will heal us from our illness. However, the first among the many things that we ask from God, based on Luke 17:5, should be for Him to increase our faith. One of the characteristics of one who is growing in the faith is prayerfulness.
Commonly, the appointed time for the personal prayers of God’s early servants were in the “evening and morning and at noon,” based on Psalm 55:17. We should also set the time for our personal devotional prayers aside from the family devotional prayers that the head of the household leads. Let us also be dedicated to attending our committee prayer or group prayer meetings. The father or the head of the household is the one responsible to attend there.
In First Corinthians 10:31, Apostle Paul stated that, “Whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.” So, let us pray to God whatever we will do. Parents should teach their children to be prayerful. They should set themselves as good examples by being devoted to praying. Our Lord Jesus Christ taught us how to pray in Matthew 6:9-12 (GNB).
The first things that we should say in our prayers are praises and thanksgiving to God, then, we ask for forgiveness of the sins we committed. Let us ask God to increase our faith and to give us our daily needs, including our spiritual needs. Hence, let us also not forget to pray for the Church Administration who tirelessly cares for our spiritual well-being. Let us not forget to also pray to our Lord Jesus Christ to ask Him to mediate for us with the Father. Let us remember that Christ is the throne of grace Who also can grant us our needs, based on Hebrews 4:14 and 16.
Our Lord Jesus Christ taught in John 15:16 that we ask everything we are praying for in His Name. For He said, “That whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. ”We should posess the characteristics of those who pray that will surely be answered. According to Mark 11:24(New Life Version), he who prays that has faith will be answered and will receive what he asks for. On the other hand, he who doubts will not receive anything from the Lord, according to James 1:6-8.
Another important condition for our prayers to be heard is written in First John 3:22: And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.
So, let us obey the commands of God. Let us do what pleases Him. Let us also make sure that what we are asking for in our prayers to God are in accordance with His will and will bring us closer to Him. Let us request for the things that we can use in serving Him and in fulfilling our duties.Let us not hesitate to draw near to God because it is made certain in Isaiah 30:18 (GNB):
And yet the Lord is waiting to be merciful to you. He is ready to take pity on you because he always does what is right. Happy are those who put their trust in the Lord.
Let us implore God not to fail us when we are calling to Him and are asking for His help as we go through the difficult trials and problems in life. May He uphold and defend us always. May He help all of us finish our race and remain in the hope for the blessing that will soon be ours.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,Lesson for today: Dapat Makisama sa Pagpapalaganap ng Ebanghelyo ang bawat isang Iglesia ni Cristo at Matuto ng Pananalangin,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,Anyone have like the transcript text or anything? I remember there used to be someone who posts it here,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"A commentary on the Wed. worship service 3/18/2021
This is about Propagation and being Prayerful.
Why Propagate?
1. Matthew 5:14-16
14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
\*You know what kind of light I am? A lighthouse. yep. The kind that you can see a mile away warning the ships to be careful or get shipwrecked. So I am saving them in a different way by telling them to stay away from this rocky shit that is the INC.\*
What else?
2. Matthew 5:13-16 “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.
\*So we should be morally upright Christians, free from corruption. And thus gives no reason for our enemy to criticise us (quoting the minister). I suppose this only apply to members yes? EVM and administration can expel his mom and siblings or imprisoned his brother. Don't get me started on those killed because they ""fought"" the administration. Even the Canadian who was killed because he complained after being inconvenienced when a baranggay chapel was constructed right beside him house and brethren using his property for parking without permission.
Yeah forgot all of those and concentrate on propagation. why? ""Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God."" (Romans 8:21). Yes, it is our duty to deliver them from ONE bondage of corruption... to another.\*
Then onward to Praying and Faith.
Minister says we have this privilege so we should take advantage of this. Especially if we are sick. Because as it said in James 5:13-15
Is anyone among you in trouble? Let them pray. Is anyone happy? Let them sing songs of praise. 14 Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven.
Also, We should pray daily, in the morning, lunch, evening. We should have devotional prayer, personal prayer, group prayer, join in the officer's prayer and the like.
\*In short Praying will make you more Faithful and the mark of being faithful is being prayerful. So like a feed-back loop.
Hold on stop right there... isn't that a contradiction? If you have faith, shouldn't one prayer enough! You don't need to keep repeating the same request in every prayer like ""Bless/Protect/Give power to the most dynamic leader"". Oh boy, is god deaf? Now of course a prayer of praise and thanks you can do that all day long. SkyDaddy wants to hear endless praises anyway (don't forget that is the reason why he created mankind in the first place) It kind of ego-boost lifting his self-esteem I guess.
Apostle James actually has a warning for doubters: James 6: But when you ask, you must believe and not doubt, because the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.
But they inconveniently forgot to add 2 major verse about Prayer and Faith:
1. Matthew 6:7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
2. Matthew 8:5-13- an account when a Roman Centurion approach him and requested to heal his servant. Jesus ask if he should come and heal the servant but the Officer said, ""Lord you don't have to go, Simply say he is healed and it will happen"". That's how strong his faith is and even Jesus remarked that he has yet to find someone in israel with a faith as strong as that man has.\*
\*In the end: The minister went back to propagation and implored, pls. brethren even just if we can target 1 soul per household that will help a lot. uhhh.. so not 6 souls per household anymore? you just stood there for more than 30 minutes talking about having faith and now this? Did we not have have a weeklong devotional prayer for that 6 souls?
Where is your faith now? You doubt we can't get this? I thought God is with us so why now this waffling and settling even for just one? Can you see how all those sermon about faith and all just got thrown out of the window?\*
Then a sermon is not complete without a reminder of what pleases god. And yes! you got it brethren its offering. We need to help our ecofarm in Africa (India not included this time maybe next month) because if we are to believe those INCMedia pictures, lots of Africans are starving. It would not make a good photo-ops when we have the fat minister posing with thin, severely malnourished africans. We expect your unity in this worthy endeavor (read: we will find out who did not give and we will monitor you).
Sheesh. How to get away from this? oh look! my shift this weekend has changed. So sorry cannot attend!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"Haha taena kasi bawal ang phone sa loob, pwede ba magkaroon next time ng live discussion ung blow by blow",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"Wow, this is very very detailed! If only I can upvote this multiple times...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"Second paragraph states doing good works. Yet, their members are asking gays to join knowing full well they will only get tons of anxiety attack from hearing anti homophobic lessons within the church. Parents ready to disown their children for having their own sets of values and beliefs. Parents physically abusing their child(ren) for being “different,” and not actually loving them for who they are. A certain son allowing his mother to be in hiding for the rest of her life. That same certain son allowing his sibling to rot in jail. That same son who harbors hate towards his other siblings because he is hungry for more food and power. But i digress.
The third is the icing on the cake!!! “BE PERFECT!” There is no such thing as a perfect person. I find this to be the most venomous message of all. It makes members want to be perfectionist, and that alone is a ticking time bomb. Perfect example is me. I go in a depression/anxiety mode whenever something does not go the way i wanted. For example, (hypothetically off course) i wanted to attend a ridiculous early pay per view by our lord and savior fatty EVilMaN, but I can’t because i’m working graveyard shift, and nobody wants to switch times with me even offering some dough to sweeten the deal. I would have a panic attack because the church would think i am neglecting one of my duties; therefore, i am a sinner. That was me when i was an OWE, and it took a lot of mental toughness - and i’m still struggling to get away from being a perfectionist - not to mention counseling.
I’m also glad that they inserted about praying for the administration because he works “tirelessly.” Must be very tiring to shake hands, eat, read, eat, talk, eat, sit, and eat. I nearly forgot smile while eating a few extra meals in a day. Flying in a privately own jet. Who could forget being in an air conditioned room while majority of the members in poverty stricken country such as Philippines can barely afford any of the comforts he has.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"Thanks for sharing. So Samaritan makes her appearance again as the poster child for bringing visitors. That is all I knew of Samaritan based on INCult repetitive false doctrine. Until I actually read the whole John 4
There is more to John Chapter 4 if read in context.
1-6 is Jesus leaving Judaea because them pesky Pharisees or religious leaders.
7-15 Jesus style of using metaphors with his conversation in the watering hole with Samaritan woman is just so rich and poetic.
John 4:13-14 NIV
Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, 14 but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”
Great pick up line Jesus. But on to 15-18, Jesus called her out on having 5 husbands. Uh oh Jesus.
19 -26 best part. Back and forth conversation with Samaritan ends with Jesus telling her he is the messiah.
John 4:25-26 NIV
The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.” Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”
27-38 In contrast the conversation with disciples goes on with them still like thinking silly notions as in 33.
So John 4:39,41-42 to be used for propagation to me is missing on Jesus character. Samaritan sinner woman from brief conversation recognized Jesus as prophet and in return Jesus flat out told her, I am he, the messiah from OT. Whereas the disciples who has been hanging out with Jesus and has witnessed miracles is like still not connecting the dots.
Samaritan is inviting the town to listen to impressive Jesus. INCult want its members to invite possible victims for membership into the Manalo wretched religious sect.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,Thank you for sharing 🌸,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,Question: Do members receive the same lesson regardless of whether they go to church or do the worship service at home? Or the lesson could be different?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,Oooohhh. Two things EVilMan is not actually seen publicly doing.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,SIGGHHHHH HHHH. THIS IS GONNA BE A GOOD ONE.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"You ask, you shall recieve. Refer to the above post",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,Exactly 💯couldn't have said it any better. Good read too 👍,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"Mga tanga naman ung mga ministro, kaya nga ayaw nila ng questions, kasi di nila masasagot haha",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,">Parents ready to disown their children for having their own sets of values and beliefs. Parents physically abusing their child(ren) for being “different,” and not actually loving them for who they are.
My ex was a bi, and one day she came out to her super religious super close/narrow minded INC mother and asked her, ""What if one of your children turns out to be gay?"", and her response was ""If it's just feeling then it's alright since it's hard and you can't control it. So long you don't actually be in a relationship with the same sex/gender...""
\^ This, surprised both me and my ex, because I've been hearing stories from my ex on how close minded she is, then to suddenly become so open like this was so mind blowing 🤯🤣
>I would have a panic attack because the church would think i am neglecting one of my duties; therefore, i am a sinner.
In my post that I wrote few days ago, if not yesterday, I wrote that my ex had this kind of panic attack because she came late to worship service and didn't give offering. She felt really really miserable and it was me who calmed her down by saying that God is merciful, blablabla. Really shows how bad she had been conditioned by the INCult",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"Wow, very manipulative!
I'm curious. If you don't mind, what/how was your ""Ohh!"" moment when you first read and understand that the verse is not about what you thought it was?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"Its the same. We have senior members in our area and are advised to stay indoors. Those between 18 to 59 are encouraged to go to church.
The only difference depends on the minister delivering the lesson and the one assigned to read the lesson at home. I prefer the latter. The entire service is at 15 minutes tops.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,I have yet to hear Fatty EVM pray. What he does in every pay per view is so generic that i barely feel anything.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"Lol. I'm always amused reading EVilMan. How unfortunate for eduardo to have that initial; much like his birthday which falls on Halloween. Hehe. It's amusing how people are giving him monikers based on his initial and even for ""INC"". Lol.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,Never ko pa nakita magpray yan si evm hahahahahahah,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,Nonstop 6 fruits to bear!! 😩,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,Thank you,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"Easy for them to say, but did your ex ever told her mom the truth? People like to say one thing then do a complete 180z",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"For Samaritan specifically, I realized the pattern of who Jesus gravitated to in his ministry by reading his life story in the first 4 books (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John). It is the sinners and disabled that acknowledged who he is and his capabilities immediately.
Now for INCult pattern of BS cherry picking it was actually Acts 10 Cornelius story. INCult uses verse 4 with the word “memoriam” to say that Cornelius prayer is “dead” and needs someone like Peter to “indoctrinate” him, which is nowadays INCult membership. After reading it in context, whoa, I realized it is the reverse of what INCult is saying.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,I make sure eveything is done no more than 10 minutes,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"Alright, thank you. That's what I needed to know. And the worship lesson, ofc...
*haven't finished reading it yet* '-'",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,Perhaps he lacks inspiration unless he has something negative to say.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,I dont know AEVM's middle name. So AngErMan?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"She did not, and you're right though about the 180",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,How did that 'whoa' feel?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,"Lol! aevm just got his first moniker! Lol!
I personally don't like calling them with their initials bc in a corporate world, the bigwigs are called by their initials....and I don't consider them bigwigs. Hehe. That's why I have been using eduardo or felix. Lol.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,It was empowering. The INCult through its ministers are actually the false preachers. They are only good in dictating to me how to behave while actually misusing the Bible.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 17 - Mar 19, 2021)",m6qksh,2021-03-16,Glad you can see thru all the lies. Really wish there are more ppl like you. Thank you for all your answers!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"Lesson for today: Aral ng Diyos ang Pagkakaisa ng Iglesia ni Cristo.
Rants / Takeaways:
- There is something off on this lesson. Or, maybe I was not really paying attention before. I think one of the focus of this fundamental lesson is about voting right? You can correct me if I am wrong. But why do I feel like it's about obedience in the church administration now? Yeah, I don't know..
- ""Sino ka para kumwestiyon sa pamamahala?"" / Who are you to question church administration? The minister said. What the heck? That statement made my blood boil! 😡
- This is just the context but the minister also said that if there is someone questioning the church administration, then he is on the devil's side, not on God's. Ok, let me burn in hell.
- He said further.. that we should be thankful to the church administration, because he cares for us, especially this pandemic. Oh really? He cares so they will still push through the CWS. Nonstop meetings / offerings despite the pandemic. 6 fruits to bear this year. Ahh okay he cares!
- What is your explanation about having no F13 today and all of the special offering will go to Aide for africa? You care for Africa that much?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"**Sermon**
* Topic: Unity
* I am not sure how this topic, by itself, would fall under the Seven Deadly Themes. Could it be Other Religions Are Wrong?
* [Psalms 133:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+133%3A1&version=NKJV)
* [John 17:9, 11](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+17%3A9%2C11&version=NKJV)
* [John 17:21, 23](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+17%3A21%2C23&version=NKJV)
* [I Corinthians 1:10](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+1%3A10&version=NKJV)
* [Romans 12:4-5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+12%3A4-5&version=NKJV)
* [Colossians 1:18](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+1%3A18&version=NKJV)
* [I Corinthians 12:18](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+12%3A18&version=NKJV)
* [I Corinthians 12:25](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+12%3A25&version=NKJV)
* [I Corinthians 3:3-4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+3%3A3-4&version=NKJV)
* [Romans 8:9](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8%3A9&version=NKJV)
* [James 3:14-15](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+3%3A14-15&version=NKJV)
* [II Corinthians 13:11](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+13%3A11&version=NKJV)
* [Ephesians 4:4-6](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+4%3A4-6&version=NKJV)
* [Philippians 2:2-3](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2%3A2-3&version=NKJV)
* Repeat [I Corinthians 1:10](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+1%3A10&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 15:19](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15%3A19&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 15:28](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15%3A28&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 15:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15%3A13&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 15:1-2](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15%3A1-2&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 15:12-13, 19-20](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15%3A12-13%2C19-20&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 15:30-31](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15%3A30-31&version=NKJV)
* For reference, here's [Acts 15 in its entirety](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15&version=NKJV)
**My Comments/Observations**
* Is it just me, or do ministers and workers only ever read the first part of [Colossians 1:18](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+1%3A18&version=NKJV)?
* [Philippians 2:3](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2%3A3&version=NKJV): ""Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself."" Sorry, but aren't the administration and especially executive minister full of selfish ambition AND conceit, hence their constant boasting of, ""We'Re ThE tRuE cHuRcH; lOoK aT wHaT wE'vE aCcOmPlIsHeD""?
* There was even a PPV (In fact, it was the year-end thanksgiving: [See my notes here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/ggdmluh?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) [4th-to-last bullet]) where Manalo claims that to list all the accomplishments of the church ""would take until the next worship service."" Maybe if he spoke at 1 word per minute and took a 1-hour break between each ""AcCoMpLiShMeNt...""
* Of course my preacher would mention, even if only briefly: Other Religions Are Wrong, Social Media against the Church, The Administration, and Intensive Propagation.
* If we're ""So UnItEd,"" how come that schism occurred nearly 6 years ago? How come so many are being expelled for GoInG aGaInSt ThE aDmInIsTrAtIoN?
*See the hymn lineup* [*here*](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/grk51fd?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)*.*
EDIT: Detail added in “My Comments” section",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,That we should be thankful for the administration because they care for us bullshit. The only thing they care about is the money.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"""So always remember, when the church admin tells you to drink the kool aid, you better drink it or you'll go to hell!"" - Today's Lesson",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"**Hymns**
* 192: “Worship Our Lord God”
* Lecture hymn
* 16: “You Are Good To Us, O Father”
* There’s a part where the worshiper sings about his/her calling into the church
* 117: “I Am Blessed”
* 116: “I Will Be True To God”
* Commonly played obedience/submission hymn
* 2nd stanza is about not leaving the church
* 134: “I Deeply Meditate”
* [YouTube Link](https://youtu.be/k_1bDkN2cwI)
* Another commonly played hymn
* I’d like to think many brethren, current or former, would disagree with the, “You defend me, LORD, unfailingly” line
* 118: “Make Us One”
* Obedience/submission hymn
* Seems like a commonly played before sermon hymn
* 292: “Our Lord Jesus Will Soon Return”
* I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that 16; 116; 117; & 118 would all happen to be in the same lineup /s 🙄
[*Sermon Outline*](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/grliuvm?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,Just a prelude to the whole worship service about block voting .wait for the ppv about block voting.because many members are not obeying them in election day.secretly or open defiance.so many are being expelled after election,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"Essentially the minidter was loud as fuck and yelled abt being one with the church and one with the body, and discourse between the church in agaisnt of the church was made by ✨da devil himself✨
Just,, sad. Just sad really. The poor minister was brainwashed as fuck, he looked around at least 24 or something.
It was a mixture of *LMAO BRO WHAT??* and *father God you deserve better than this.* Just,, sad. HAGDHSJHF
The worship service lessons are getting dry, but wow does it sound more like a cult especially with the minister screaming like his head was gonna blow off,, I just love the lovely and welcoming vibes in this household ❤️✨",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"Lmao, the lady next to me was more committed and emotional singing the hymns than the entire fully packed mang-aawits",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"Nothing better than getting lectured in a prayer by the Head Deacon AND the Minister to start and end the lesson.
“Please give the brethren more faith so they too can worship in the chapel with us.”
“Here you see your children in your house of worship, YET there are still those in their homes!”
😂🤣",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,Is it true that apostol.santiago.then was the executive minister.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,There is no division in the church? Well did they forget about 2015 scandal and the fact that this subreddit exists and has current members joining in?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,Okey thanks.i also think that there was no executive minister back then.i dont why they are teaching that,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,This.minister.is teaching as.there is an executive minister. During the time of the apostle and it was.apostle santiago.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,*Alexa please play africa by toto*,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,">Who are you to question church administration?
Holy shit. Idk how ppl can not realize how cultish this is?? 🤯",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,">Or, maybe I was not really paying attention before. I think one of the focus of this fundamental lesson is about voting right?
I don't think you're off. I don't even think this is about voting rights. It's about complete obedience to the INCULT, as their motto said, obey and never complain.
They're trying to send a message to combat the members who are awake to wipe out what they're feeling. To manipulate them into thinking that they're wrong to feel what they feel. Therefore, they have to continue to be subservient to INCULT MANALO.
This is the bottom line for them because their very existence is hanging in a balance. They can't continue to exist in the future because their very own members especially the younger generation are waking up. It's a matter of when they will leave and not if they will leave.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"Why do I feel like we went to the same worship service to the same minister,, or do all ministers talk like that?? HAKAHSJHD",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"Who am I to question the assministration? An educated free thinking Filipino that just learned about its cultic ways from way back 2017. Also, I am exercising my freedom of speech which has been given to me by this democratic nation called the Philippines.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"Election wasn't even mentioned on the lecture, if I remember correctly. I was expecting them to tell something about it!! It's more of emphasizing obedience to church administration. I don't know.. something is really off.. did they change it or what?
But yeah, brainwashing at its finest. Errr!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"Thank you for this.
>Is it just me, or do ministers and workers only ever read the first part of Colossians 1:18?
It's not just you. INC has had long history of cherry picking and they often pick a chapter but not read the entire chapter. They pick and choose the verses to fit their narrative. It's deceptive design to trick people.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"Having to be ""thankful"" for the church administration is like feeling ""blessed"" to have cancer.
I don't fucking think so.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"I remember once a few years ago there was a lineup that consisted of hymns 1, 2, 123, 145 and 68 (probably not sung but officer's hymn for following worship service) and I believe 176 before sermon. So yeah I think it is about numbers sometimes.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"Thank you so much for your weekly summary. If you could, could please also indicate what the Seven Deadly Themes were covered in the lesson and if not indicate it was an outlier? That would help in recording the services in the wiki.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,The screaming and crying are cringey AF.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"Sounds like the minion's assistant is jealous he had to roll out of bed early while others are still wearing their pajamas while being forced to attend web-based services.
It's ok po. Let all your frustration out po! It will make you feel better po!
LOL",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"Nope. James might be the leader of the church in Jerusalem but he's not the overall leader of the Church. According to tradition and early Christian writers, it was Peter who held that position.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"That is a stretch because Paul had a secular job, was jailed and beaten. So if executive ministers want to be like Paul, then they at least should experience having a job, be jailed and beaten.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,Oopski. I just realized Paul is Pablo and James is Santiago. Nevertheless EVM is neither.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"Exactly, this precise statement is the root of all evil consistent of cult groups in which the cult leaders give license to abuse its' members however and whenever they like. It's like saying, ""if you love god, then you will do as I ask.""
It's evil, disgusting and cult groups including INC do these sort of things and they call it in the name of god. And those god-fearing members will do it because they think that they're pleasing god when in reality, they're pleasing their human god EVM. The sad part is that they don't even realized that they been brainwashed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,True!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"I agree with you. Obey and never complain, because as per the minister who officiated our WS, who are we to question the church administration? Too bad, many people are waking up already.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,It would be nice if we indeed attended the same WS. But I guess ministers are just programmed to talk like that during WS.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,"Your right, i checked the script and there is no mention of election. I just notice that the lesson is only 3 pages long but the Church of Christ was mentioned 9 times, 10 if you will include the title",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,These manalo minister retards thought that by screaming they sound more convincing and truthful. Only dumb would fall for that crap.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,The last part... Really... If only there's one easy way to wake them up~,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,The last part... Really... If only there's one easy way to wake them up~,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,The last part... Really... If only there's one easy way to wake them up~,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 20 - Mar 23, 2021)",m8y0w2,2021-03-19,Thanks for the confirmation.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m8y0w2/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_20_mar_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 24 - Mar 26, 2021)",mbvxe8,2021-03-23,"Lesson for today: Ang Kaligtasan ay Hindi Matatamo sa Pamamagitan ng Pananampalataya Lamang
My own translation: Salvation cannot be attained just by faith only?
- So how? Magtiis hanggang sa wakas. Magtiis tumupad ng tungkulin hanggang sa mahawa ng sakit na covid-19. Magbigay ng masaya hanggang sa sumagana ang pAmAMaHaLa. Hindi talaga sapat ang pananampalataya sa Iglesiang ito. Offering your whole life to the church like slaves, maybe that's the key to salvation.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mbvxe8/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_24_mar_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 24 - Mar 26, 2021)",mbvxe8,2021-03-23,"The emphasis is on works to complement faith. But what kind of work? Fruit/soul bearing works . Propagation is the key to salvation! God will not hear your prayer if you will not bear fruit.
We need to hurry up because judgement day is very near. Bull crap! Thats why we are so busy with ecofarming, investing in mushroom farm , ghost towns and creating special entity corporations in the caymans BECAUSE JUDGEMENT DAY IS NEAR!!!
and oh, be reminded that you need to do this until the end. If you falter, backslide or take a rest for a bit, your salvation is in peril. So back to work you slaves.. whaaphisssh! (thats the sound of the whip lashing out above my head as I imagined it.)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mbvxe8/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_24_mar_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 24 - Mar 26, 2021)",mbvxe8,2021-03-23,"**Hymns**
* 64: “Would I Still Be Worthy?”
* 322: “You Are My Joy”
* 56: “I Am Saved!”
* [YouTube Video](https://youtu.be/NpAlrRsLE5I)
* Second stanza is about submission and duty
* 137: “You Are With Me In My Life”
* Refrain includes a lyric about obedience
* Second stanza is about duty
* 248: “I Will Never Draw Back”
* Submission hymn
* 99: “Now I Rejoice”
* 292: “Our Lord Jesus Christ Will Soon Return”
*For the sermon details, please see my [follow-up comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mbvxe8/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_24_mar_26/gs4make?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mbvxe8/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_24_mar_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 24 - Mar 26, 2021)",mbvxe8,2021-03-23,"**Verses Read**
* [Acts 16:30-31](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+16%3A30-31&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 16:31-33](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+16%3A31-33&version=GNT)
* [Mark 16:15-16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+16%3A15-16&version=NKJV)
* [I Corinthians 12:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+12%3A13&version=GNT)
* [Colossians 1:18](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+1%3A18&version=GNT)
* [Ephesians 4:12, 16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+4%3A12%2C16&version=GNT)
* [Acts 2:41, 47](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+2%3A41%2C47&version=NKJV)
* [John 10:9](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+10%3A9&version=NKJV)
* [John 15:5-6](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+15%3A5-6&version=NIV)
* [I Corinthians 15:1-2](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+15%3A1-2&version=NKJV)
* [James 2:14, 17, 20, 22, 24](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+2%3A14%2C17%2C20%2C22%2C24&version=NKJV) \[?\]
* [James 2 in full](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+2&version=NIV)
* [Matthew 24:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24%3A13&version=NKJV)
* [Philippians 1:29](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+1%3A29&version=NKJV)
**My Comments and Observations**
* General Topics
* not by faith alone
* Join and never leave the church
* I tried my best to deduce which translation was used for each verse based on what the preacher read and which book he used in each instance.
* In typical ministerial fashion, the preacher shoehorns submission to the administration in his sermon.
* [Colossians 1:18](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+1%3A18&version=GNT) and [John 10:9](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+10%3A9&version=NKJV) predictably were not read in their entireties.
*For the hymn lineup, please see my [previous comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mbvxe8/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_24_mar_26/gs0cfq1?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mbvxe8/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_24_mar_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 24 - Mar 26, 2021)",mbvxe8,2021-03-23,">Salvation cannot be attained just by faith only
Seemed to work for those two guys who were placed on crosses next to Jesus?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mbvxe8/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_24_mar_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 24 - Mar 26, 2021)",mbvxe8,2021-03-23,Hindi sapat ang pananampalataya lang? .. kaya pala Hindi nia iniibig ang kaaway nia kaya pala Hindi ginagalang ang magulang nia kaya pala pinakulong ang kangyang kapatid ... may pananampalataya siguro sya pero pag ibig wala.. baka puro pag Ibig lang sa salapi .. may pananampalataya ang maraming kapatid.. at tiwala sa diyos.. pero sa pamamahala ..naubus na ang tiwala ng karamihan .. napagod na ang karamhihan kakahintay na ayusin at sagutin mo lahat ng paratang sa iglesia..,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mbvxe8/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_24_mar_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 24 - Mar 26, 2021)",mbvxe8,2021-03-23,You know you've been away from the cult for a long time when you don't remember any of the hymn numbers.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mbvxe8/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_24_mar_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 24 - Mar 26, 2021)",mbvxe8,2021-03-23,"They never read the whole verses for col. 1:18. I bet he ended at the word “church.” They always end the verse of john 10:9 at “saved.” The second sentence in verse of john 10:9 is very intriguing; hence, why they don’t bother reading it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mbvxe8/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_24_mar_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 24 - Mar 26, 2021)",mbvxe8,2021-03-23,Great freaking point!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mbvxe8/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_24_mar_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 24 - Mar 26, 2021)",mbvxe8,2021-03-23,"The sentence that is not being read
""They will come in and get out and will find pasture"".°
Honestly though, we all know what the sheperd does to the sheep in the end. And it is not just about the wool.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mbvxe8/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_24_mar_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,"For those commenting about the services and giving input about what you thought, don't forget to include what you think which Seven Deadly Themes was covered or in the rare case if it was an outlier. It will help me a lot when I record it in the wiki.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,"Catholic church = evil
Catholic church, the mother of all denominations, their proof is Martin Luther’s defiance against the Catholic Church. Denominations are protestants and anglicans.
Bruh, their reason is so flawed and doesn’t make sense. INC is a protestant church that stemmed from other protestant churches yet they claim they’re the true church? Hah?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,"**Sermon**
* TOPIC: The origin of other churches (aka other religions are wrong)
* [Matthew 13:24](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13%3A24&version=NKJV)
* [Luke 12:32](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+12%3A32&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 20:28 (Lamsa)](https://www.studylight.org/bible/eng/glt/acts/20-28.html)
* [Matthew 13:37](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13%3A37&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 13:38](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13%3A38&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 16:18](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+16%3A18&version=NKJV)
* [1 Corinthians 12:12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+12%3A12&version=NKJV)
* Preacher mentions the word ""church,"" but a quick search of Bible Gateway proved fruitless.
* [Matthew 13:25](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13%3A25&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 13:39](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13%3A39&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 13:38](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13%3A38&version=NKJV) \[Repeat\]
* [John 11:11-14](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+11%3A11-14&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 20:29-30](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+20%3A29-30&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 20:25](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+20%3A25&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 20:37-38](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+20%3A37-38&version=NKJV)
* [2 Timothy 4:6-8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+4%3A6-8&version=NKJV)
* [1 Timothy 4:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+4%3A1&version=NKJV)
* *Historical Dictionary of Catholicism (HDoC),* p. 91
* Catholic Church forbids marriage after ordination.
* *The Code of Canon Law,* p. 173
* Abstinence from meat is observed on all Fridays (except for solemnities) and Ash Wednesdays.
* [2 Corinthians 11:2](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+11%3A2&version=NKJV)
* [Revelation 17:1, 5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+17%3A1%2C5&version=NKJV)
* [Revelation 17:15](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+17%3A15&version=NKJV)
* *HDoC*, p. 1
* Catholic = universal
* [Revelation 17:5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+17%3A5&version=NKJV) \[Repeat\]
* ""Was Peter in Rome?"" \[?\]
* ""Marks of the True Church"" \[?\]
* *HDoC,* p. 10-11
* The Catholic Church divided into separate denominations.
* *Geography of Protestantism*
* [Acts 4:10,12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+4%3A10%2C12&version=NKJV)
**My Comments/Observations**
* The preacher did not name any translations this WS. Barring Acts 20:28, all links above lead to the NKJV translation of each indicated verse.
* Unusually, however, he did announce the last verse of the lesson, presumably to prepare for ""I Am A Member.""
* Admittedly, I was tired and dozing off during the sermon; ergo, many entries are uncertain/incomplete.
* Some parts of my outline (namely the entries *HDoC*, p. 91; and *The Code of Canon Law,* p. 173) were copy/pasted from [my comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l5vuko/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_27_jan_29/gl16bot?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) on the Jan. 27-29, 2021, discussion.
* The two entries with ""\[?\]"", from what I remember, were papers written by people in the Catholic Church. Please correct any incorrect or incomplete information on my outline.
* The preacher shoehorned propagation into his sermon (unsurprising for my locale/region).
**Hymns**
* 204 (""I Draw Near With Heart Repentant"")
* 282 (""Sing To The Lord, Our God"")
* 193 (""My Greatest Treasure"")
* ""Never leave the church""/duty hymn
* 132 (""Who Will Part Me From Christ"")
* 246 (""I Offer My Strength And Life"")
* ""Never leave the church""/duty hymn
* 270 (""Eager To Receive Your Teachings"")
* ""I Am A Member Of The CHURCH OF CHRIST""
* [YouTube Video](https://youtu.be/6jtvxZ_fay8)
* 292 (""Our Lord Jesus Will Soon Return"")
EDIT: Pressed Enter too soon
EDIT: A letter",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,"Lesson for today: Ang pinagmulan ng maraming Iglesiang iba't iba na hindi galing kay Cristo
Woops, INC vs Catholic again 🤡",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,"Did they mention again the prophecy that someone from the far east, who will be the ""Chosen one"" or ""Sugo"", will build the true church?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,"Bashing those 41,000 religions like the INC is not part of it. Its like the minister was saying that INC is excluded in those numbers because its the one true church.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,Full of hypocrisy and pretentiousness.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,How could INC call these gatherings as worship service when the lessons itself are full of hatred against other religions? Is this really the proper way to worship God?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,"And it contradicts Jesus' words ""And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. ""Matthew 16:18",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,Thanks for your dedication. I always look forward for your comment about the lessons.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,"Oof is it a coincidence that Catholics observe the holy week? and yeah, they just straight bashing Catholic Church for their WS",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,"Surprisingly they didn’t mention the messenger. The lesson was a jab at other religions, especially Catholicism",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,"I am not well-versed in the bible, mind if you elaborate further?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,Almost got it. Haha. I did not facilitate the home WS today that is why I did not read the full text.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 27 - Mar 30, 2021)",me5785,2021-03-26,"Jesus changed the name of Simon to Peter which is derived from Petros (latin for rock). Thus, Christ is saying that Peter would be the rock (different from the foundation stone as that is Christ) upon whom He would build his Church. This is one of the verses used to prove the primacy of Peter among the apostles.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/me5785/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_27_mar_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"After delivering this lesson to my loved ones, my father asked me, “Bakit ganyan yung mga teksto ngayon? Hindi naman maiintindihan ng marami.” Sameee lol. Hindi ko rin alam.
Why are they composing these kind of lessons to us? Everyone is suffering from pandemic and yet, the lessons are about attacking other religions, about obeying and not complaining, about this shitty administration, about EVM, etc. I’m really fed up with this cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"(Fair Use) Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research
THE BELIEVERS IN CHRIST ARE IN ONE ORGANIZED CHURCH—THE TRUE CHURCH OF CHRIST
(HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED BY BROTHER ERAÑO G. MANALO WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY: MARCH31/APRIL 1, 2021)
Protestants claim that the Church Of Christ comprises all believers in Christ, regardless of whatever religious group they belong to. To them, membership in a church is not important because, allegedly, whether or not one is a member of any particular church, that person belongs to the Church Of Christ and is considered as belonging to Christ as long as he believes in Christ. The said teaching of Protestants is based on a wrong notion because, according to the Bible, the true believers in Christ are in one organized Church.
We are sure of that because, based on the pronouncement of Christ in John 6:44, the only ones who can come to Christ are those who are drawn or brought by the Father to Him. The Father brings people to Christ by calling them to have fellowship with Christ, according to First Corinthians 1:9 (Today’s English Version). They are placed or gathered in one body or in the Church that is headed by Christ, according to Colossians 1:18 and 3:15. As there is one Christ Who is the Head, there is also one Church, which is His body. Therefore, those who have been called to have fellowship with Christ are gathered in one Church or in only one organization; they are not splintered into many different churches and denominations.
Those who were called by God to have fellowship with Christ, based on Ephesians 2:15, were created by Christ in Himself as one new man. The one new man comprises Christ as the Head and the Church as His body. The members of the one Church are parts that are joined together in the one body. Because the true Church is the body of Christ, it is named the Church Of Christ, based on First Corinthians 12:12 (Weymouth).
To become members of the true Church Of Christ, people are baptized “into one body,” according to First Corinthians 12:13. Hence, we are certain that the believers in Christ and those who truly belong to Him are in one organized Church only, because they belong to only one body—not to many different bodies.
The true Church is called the body of Christ to show its oneness. In the true Church, the parts or members are joined together in one organization, based on Romans 12:4-5 (TEV). Just like in a literal human body, the parts or members of the body of Christ, which is the Church, are joined together—not separate or detached from one another, according to First Corinthians 12:12.
Meanwhile, according to A Study of Denominations, on pages 1, 3, 4, and6, “it is difficult to compute the number of [Protestant] denominations” because there are too many, especially because divisions continue to take place within Protestantism. Protestants themselves notice that the divisions that exist within them are what the apostles condemned and forbade and that this “stands diametrically opposed to the intent and prayer of Jesus.
Hence, the concept of a denominational church is foreign to the New Testament, and therefore unscriptural.”
According to them also, divisions arise within Protestantism resulting in sects, denominations, and contentions because the Protestants show “more respect to religious teachers than to Christ.” The division within Protestantism shows that it is not the true body of Christ. Protestant churches do not belong to Christ because, according to James 3:14-16 (American Standard Version), division or faction is not a wisdom that come from above or from God; instead, it is “earthly, sensual, devilish.”
Division and faction have no place in the true Church. What reigns over the true Church is unity. No matter how far it has extended its mission and no matter how many its members have become, it shall remain as one body or one Church and its unity shall remain. This is to ensure “that there should be no schism in the body” or Church, according to First Corinthians 12:20 and25. Apostle Paul taught what binds the unity in the Church in Ephesians 4:4-6:
There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Isn’t that really what binds our unity as members of the Church Of Christ? Therefore, we are the true believers in Christ—we who belong to this one organized Church.
On the other hand, the false “believers in Christ,” according to Matthew 7:21 (TEV), are those who merely call Christ as Lord but do not do the will of the Father in heaven. God’s will, according to Ephesians 1:9-10, is that all people be gathered together in Christ. One can fulfill that by being joined together as among the parts or members of the body of Christ, based on Romans12:4-5 (TEV). The Bible says “joined to each other” and not separate from one another; it is not denominational or splintered into various denominations like the Protestant sects.
Still, other people reason out that it is also the Name of Christ that they use or invoke. They even claim that they are able to perform many miracles in His Name. However, that doesnot offer enough proof of beingtrue“believers in Christ.” In Matthew 7:22-23, Christ refusedto acknowledge the people mentioned in these verses even though they claim to know Him, call to Him as Lord, profess belief in Him, and perform wonders or miracles in His Name. Instead, Christ even told them: “Depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!” Christ rejected them because their faith has been without works; and so, it is without profit, is useless, and cannot save them, according to James 2:14 (New American Standard Bible).
Even if one claims to have faith, such faith is worthless if it is without works and the person who has such kind of faith is foolish, based on James 2:18-20 (NASB). We are certain that faith without works is without profit and cannot save because even demons also believe but they will not be saved.
Because of that, the kind of faith that is necessary for salvation is perfect faith because it is coupled with works, based on James 2:22. The work that one should couple his faith with for it to become perfect and lead him to salvation is that which Christ tells people to do. According to Luke 6:46, Christ does not consider as His disciples those who refuse to do what He says. One of the things that Christ said or taught that must be done by anyone who wants to be saved is written in John 10:9 (Revised English Bible):
I am the door; anyone who comes into the fold through me will be safe...
The fold or flock being referred to is the Church Of Christ (Acts 20:28 Lamsa translation). Those who joined the Church Of Christ will be saved because it is the Church Of Christ that was redeemed with the blood of Christ and its members are the ones who received the forgiveness of sins and will receive salvation. Therefore, even if people claim to be believers in Christ but they are outside the Church Of Christ, they will not be acknowledged by Christ as His and they will not be saved.
This truth that the Bible teaches is the same truth that was taught by God’s Messenger in the last days, Brother Felix Manalo, which was also upheld by Brother Eraño Manalo, and is continuously being upheld by the present Executive Minister, Brother Eduardo Manalo. Hence, joining the Church Of Christ and remaining in it is truly necessary and of utmost importance. That is what all people who want to be saved must do. There is no salvation outside the true Church.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"I zone out out all the time, but my ears perked up when I heard the minister cite 1 Corinthians 12:12 (Weymouth) Have they always used Weymouth before? I know INC throws in Romans 16:16 to give the illusion that there are multiple instances of the phrase Church of Christ in the Bible, but I swear this is the first time I’ve heard of a Weymouth translation and what a shocker, another obscure Bible translation that nobody uses 😂
I Corinthians 12:12 Weymouth
“Or just as the human body is one and yet has many parts, and all its parts, many as they are, constitute but one body, so it is with the Church of Christ.”
Looks like EGM made the mistake of choosing the wrong obscure Bible translation (that most people have never heard of), as their official fundamental verse to use. Unlike their precious Acts 20:28 Lamsa, in 1 Corinthians 12:12 Weymouth , the “C” in church is actually capitalized. Also, Weymouth was published in 1903 compared to Lamsa (1933).
I swear EVM/administration is scouring through all obscure Bible translations ever written in search of the phrase church of Christ, so they can cover up the Acts 20:28 Lamsa Fallacy. If any of you OWE’s are lurking and read this, a suggestion to add Hebrews 12:22-23 Remedy New Testament. Remedy New Testament was published in 2017 but y’all love your Precious Lamsa translation which came after FYM, so why the heck not 🤡.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,As I think that I will facilitate the household worship this week makes me want to be sick,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"**Foreword:** Happy April Fools'! I have decided to type up a very informal overview (compared to some of my recent WS write-ups). I will likely do the same for this weekend's PPV. *\*barfs everywhere\**
**Sermon**
* Topic: ""The Believers in Christ Are in One Organized Church—the Church of Christ"" (Thank you u/anggelwinsantos!)
* Deadly Theme: Other religions are wrong
* [John 6:44](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+6%3A44&version=NKJV)
* [1 Corinthians 1:9 (Today's English Version)](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1%20Corinthians%201:9)
* I tried Googling this verse with this translation, but didn't immediately find what I was looking for
* [Colossians 3:15](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+3%3A15&version=NKJV)
* [Colossians 1:18](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+1%3A18&version=NKJV)
* Is it just my preacher, or is the last 2/3 of this verse never read?
* [Ephesians 2:15](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2%3A15&version=NKJV)
* ~~Shoehorn~~ Mention of:
* [1 Corinthians 12:12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+12%3A12&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 20:28 (Lamsa)](https://www.studylight.org/bible/eng/glt/acts/20-28.html)
* [Romans 16:16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+16%3A16&version=NKJV)
* [1 Corinthians 12:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+12%3A13&version=NKJV)
* [Romans 12:4-5 (TEV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+12%3A4-5&version=NKJV)
* Same issue as earlier, hence the link leading to NKJV
* [1 Corinthians 12:12 (Weymouth)](https://newchristianbiblestudy.org/bible/weymouth-nt/1-corinthians/12/12)
* *A Study of Denominations*, p. 1, 3, 4, 6
* [James 3:14-16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+3%3A14-16&version=ASV)
* [1 Corinthians 12:20, 25](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+12%3A20%2C25&version=NKJV)
* Mention of [Ephesians 4:4-6](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+4%3A4-6&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 7:21 (TEV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%207:21)
* [Ephesians 1:9-10](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+1%3A9-10&version=NKJV)
* Repeat [Romans 12:4-5 (TEV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+12%3A4-5&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 7:22-23](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A22-23&version=NKJV)
* [James 2:14 (New American Standard Bible)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+2%3A14&version=NASB1995)
* [James 2:18-20 (NASB)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+2%3A18-20&version=NASB1995)
* [James 2:22](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+2%3A22&version=NKJV)
* [Luke 6:46](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+6%3A46&version=NKJV)
* [John 10:9 (Revised English Bible)](https://www.revisedenglishversion.com/commentary/John/10)
* The latter half of this verse was taught maybe once back in 2018. Will it ever see the light of day again?
* Unless otherwise dictated, the translations and links provided above correspond to u/anggelwinsantos' comment.
**Comments/Observations**
* INC points out that the Protestants supposedly ""show more respect to religious teachers than to Christ."" Then what is the purpose of all the EVM portraits? Has INC ever heard of this thing called ""a mirror""? This will especially prove laughable in the upcoming PPV when the minister(s) wail(s), ""PlEaSe BlEsS tHe MoSt ImPoRtAnT mAn On EaRtH!"" for what seems like an eternity.
* Heck, later in the sermon, the preacher instructs us to be one with EVM/the administration. I seriously want to strap him to a lie detector and ask him if he believes even a tiny fraction of what he says.
* INC will claim the doctrine has remained unchanged since the time of the messenger. Can even one of its ministers/workers prove such a claim by mentioning all the points the DeTrAcToRs raise and proving them wrong? Or will every last preacher simply say, ""DoN't Go On ThOsE wEbSiTeS,"" ""DoN't LiStEn To ThE oUtSiDeRs,"" etc.?
* Preacher shoehorns the fact that the INC ~~has invaded~~ can be found in 160 countries and territories. And how many of that 160 AREN'T dwindling in serial number?
* Also, the preacher shoehorns bible studies, activities, etc., claiming we should attend ALL of them...
* INC will go out of its way to claim there's no schism/division within. Hmm...what was that thing that happened nearly 6 years ago?
* Is anyone else's local pushing for as many brethren as possible (barring front-liners, those above a certain age, those with underlying medical conditions, etc.) to attend in the place of worship? What do they think will happen when (not if) the number of cases starts increasing exponentially once more?
* Is it just me, or is the administration trying to shoehorn/cherry-pick more Bible verses (and other textual ""evidence,"" even if non-Biblical) into its lessons (judging by how long my ""Sermon"" section seems to be getting)?
**Hymns**
* 25 (""We Worship You Today"")
* 314 (""You Are Indeed the One True God"")
* God is (supposedly) only with the cult and no one else
* 94 (""The Kingdom, So Glorious and Blessed"")
* Hymn tries to make you feel happy you were ~~forced~~ called into this ""church""
* 238 (""Safeguard Our Election"")
* Title says it all, but just in case:
* Lecture hymn about submission, duty, and...wait for it...never leaving the church!
* 186 (""We Wait for Him"")
* Surprisingly, ""Him"" doesn't refer to Manalo...unless/until the music dept. tries to distort an already distorted hymn...
* 72 (""Your Life Will Be Peaceful"")
* Lecture hymn
* The would-be offertory this month is 107 (""Each of Us Should Always Give an Offering"")
* Lecture hymn with self-explanatory title
* Let's be real, though...""*an* offering""? Each week has *at least* 4 different types of offering!
* 1st stanza and refrain include lyrics about propagation
* 287 (""Do You, in Truth, Belong to Jesus?"")
* [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBlrTIaA5D8&list=PLvjgSOUle2Ng164q0H7w4AVC1LhmyIFf6&index=38)
* Lecture hymn masked as a feel-good hymn
* Last verse contains a mention of the worship service and always returning to it
Edit: proofread",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,PPV this weekend with Fatboy Ed,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"I have noticed on the participants list of WebEx there is a ""Prince Manaloi"" logged on. There is no video. Wonder if it's a spy ???
It's something to do while service is on. Sometimes try and find an obscure video feed.
Couple arguing / baby playing up / sleepy / bored",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,2 for 2 on Acts 20:28,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"I just delivered this lesson to my family. And as i read the first half, as if im reading what had happened and is happening to this cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"If the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ) is not the Church redeemed by Christ then which Church is the true church that Christ will save?
If you leave the Church where are you going to which you think God will accept your services to Him?
Ill wait for your answers..
Please dont delete my comments..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"Because that is the only thing they know. If they inject another theme outside of what they are comfortable doing, that means they need to study the bible again.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,It sounds like your dad is waking up from this cult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,Your lucky that your father is a critical thinker. Unlike me where my parents are hardcore OWE's which will abandon me if i try to leave the cult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"Ephesians easily became one of my favorite books of the Bible. Seeing each letter of Paul as a complete sermon on its own made attending INCult brainwashing sessions insufferable. Paul’s ministry in Ephesus(part of modern day Turkey) is written in Acts 19 into 20 with the all too familiar Acts 20:28 that is actually an emotional goodbye to the church or believers of Jesus.
So years later, Paul wrote this epistle to the Ephesians while he was in jail. So the whole letter by itself is a complete summation of the Jesus movement.
https://youtu.be/Y71r-T98E2Q
The modern day canonized Bible did not exist yet to be butchered by false preachers like Felix Manalo.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"It should be safe to assume that HWS lessons and in-person WS homilies are similarly scheduled.
*this is the exact same shit they taught last Sunday, goddamn it, the only silver lining exINCs in Greater Manila have is that they don't have to weather this shit for over an hour*
Can I skip coming to WS tomorrow?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,That last paragraph tho. This cult is draining me mentally like crazy...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,thank you,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"Fucking awesome!
Expect more new members to the sub then.
I expect a doom and gloom intro with some stats pulled from light google searches, followed by pumping INC rhetoric with an ending flourish of ""endure until the end/embrace your election to the cult/you will be greatly blessed"".
FIN.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"Oh boy, that ought to be fun 🙄
Sorry I don’t mean to be sarcastic but honestly I would rather have root canal. Listening to an INC WS is like gouging my eyes and ears.
I feel for all of you that have to listen to this nonsense.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"Brace yourselves everyone! For this weekend, there will be tuloys, AMAAAAA!!, a lot of depressing BS, excessive boredom and crying OWEs (possibly).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,Lol. I just read a summarized version. I didn't know there was a PPV. Lucky me then.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,That's an insult to the Church of Satan to be compared to INC.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"Hi, welcome, all valid questions... I got answers for you, but you probably won't like them:
>If the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ) is not the Church redeemed by Christ then which Church is the true church that Christ will save?
None of them are. This can open up a bunch of other questions, but simple answer is NONE!
>If you leave the Church where are you going to which you think God will accept your services to Him?
Let me quote you something by Dan Barker - ""...'If there is no master, whose slave will I be?' If your purpose of life is to submit as a slave, then your meaning comes from flattering the ego of a person whom who should detest.""
cc: u/Rauffenburg u/BelleCA u/TraderKiTeer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,Where will go if you're in a false Church?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"Your question makes an assumption that there has to be a true church. That is making a judgement when you are responsible only for your choices. To follow the teachings of Jesus Christ written in the Bible: you are first not to judge and secondly the Bible does not say that there is such a thing as a true church. So the concept of a true church is made up and not biblical. Which gets to the real question, why does there have to be a ""true church""?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"Seems to be a new account keen on defending the INC.
u/Rauffenburg u/Ador_De_Leon u/BelleCA I'm opening this as per OP's request. You guys know the drill.
Edit: I stand corrected, looks like this isn't his first time here. I'll keep his comment open, nonetheless.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,Just please maintain a civil discussion.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"INC maintains that the Bible is free from errors because it is divinely inspired yet a simple Google search will yield hundreds of contradictions.
Not only that. There are lots of promises that God made that did not happen. You can Google that for the list too.
If the promise of salvation lies in an inconsistent source material by an inconsistent liar taken and cherry-picked by an inconsistent messenger, how true can that promise be?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"Hello brother/sister! You're definitely welcome to ask questions here.
>If the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ) is not the Church redeemed by Christ then which Church is the true church that Christ will save?
>
>If you leave the Church where are you going to which you think God will accept your services to Him?
The best answer I can give is that you seem to have serious doubts about other churches, but not for your own, which I feel is an interesting observation.
So I don't have a good answer, sadly. All I can do is ask: wouldn't it be possible that all churches can be flawed and therefore untrue? In that case, can't all people within them still pursue a sort of grace in faith and works for which redemption can still be achieved? That's just my thoughts.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,Why one of crucified with jesus was saved.he was not member of the church,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"Your question is based on two assumptions
1) we still believe on the belief that JC will only save your church. We dont believe that
2) salvation after life is applicable only to your members
But according to inc doctrine, you will be judged by your actions while you are living on earth when JC returns, if:
a) a person was born before july 27 1914 and died not hearing your doctrine
b) person did not hear the doctrine of your church from 1914 to present
This makes your belief very narrow and shallow.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"It,s not only iglesia ni cristo is written in the bible.like churches of Christ.,church of God,church of God pillars of truth etc.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,You mean plagiarize again,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"Haha! Also, if you are the the facilitator, you can pace your reading of the verse. Sometimes I intentionaly read the text faster. Sometimes my mind wonder while reading mispronouncing words as I read",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"I know right? Same here. That last paragraph was all Manalo, Manalo, Manalo.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,Might make my self sleep deprived so i can snooze instantly when he starts screaming and saying tuloy because he's too damn lazy to read the bible.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,Yes I see that and past posts indicated strong words.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"All good, they are welcome to stay and ask questions. Keep an eye out and approve their posts unless it breaks the rules or they become unruly. Thanks!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,Big chance the will.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2021)",mgwnuy,2021-03-30,"I sometimes skip an entire paragraph. Im that lazy.
If the sentence contains any phrase mentioning the Administration, I skip it. Boo hoo hoo. Thee goes my part in the Tree of Life.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mgwnuy/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_31_apr_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,All my life I thought INC is the true church believing all the doctrines are from God. Until I stumbled upon this forum and begin searching for the truth. Now I felt cheated as if I wasted a lot of time and effort thinking I will be saved inside this church.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,"It's that time again: time for another episode of the *Epic Manalo TV Show* (credit goes to [u/ExINCman](https://www.reddit.com/u/ExINCman/): see [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/99nbi6/what_does_a_typical_inc_service_look_like/e4p0bd0?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3))! You've seen one, you've seen 'em all, as you're about to read:
**Sermon**
* Deadly Themes: Don't Leave the INC, Intensive Propagation
* Offering was also shoehorned in there as well.
* Typical start of announcing anniversaries
* [Psalms 40:9-10 (Unlocked Literal Bible)](https://ebible.org/study/?w1=bible&t1=local%3AengULB&v1=JN1_1)
* After clicking the link, there's a field near the upper left where you can search for the verse.
* [John 15:8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+15%3A8&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 25:31-34, 41](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A31-34%2C+41&version=NKJV)
* [Hebrews 12:22-23](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+12%3A22-23&version=NKJV)
* [1 Corinthians 5:12-13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+5%3A12-13&version=NKJV)
* After the reading of this verse, Manalo mentions the [NIV](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+5%3A12-13&version=NIV), then mentions 2 Tagalog translations that I didn't catch.
* [John 10:27, 28, 9](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+10%3A27-28%2C9&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 20:28 (Lamsa)](https://www.studylight.org/bible/eng/glt/acts/20-28.html)
* Unsurprisingly, he didn't mention this translation.
* [Luke 13:23-24](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+13%3A23-24&version=NKJV)
* [2 Corinthians 10:2](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+10%3A2&version=NKJV)
* [Jude 1:23](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jude+1%3A23&version=NKJV)
* [Proverbs 4:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+4%3A13&version=NKJV)
* [2 Corinthians 5:7](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Corinthians%205:7)
* Unless I got the verse wrong, what was read was much longer than the [NKJV](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+5%3A7&version=NKJV) translation of this verse was.
* [2 Thessalonians 1:4-5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+1%3A4-5&version=NKJV)
* [2 Samuel 22:5-7, 17-20](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Samuel+22%3A5-7%2C17-20&version=NKJV)
* Manalo Mantra (""I pray to God for..."")
**Hymns**
* 8: ""I Humbly Call Upon You""
* 315: ""We Give Praise and Thanks""
* [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfVaJ5eClys)
* I previously discussed this hymn [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/grb86nz?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). To recap, it has a scary-sounding chord progression and tries to assure the worshiper s/he is in the right church
* 484: ""For Perfection Strive—Oh, Renew Our Lives""
* lecture hymn about submission/obedience
* 403: ""Worthy of Salvation""
* submission hymn with a lyric about not parting from INC
* 102: ""You, O Father, Are My Refuge and Shelter""
* [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-JxU4xLbxQ)
* 431: ""Your Words, So Pure""
* 292: ""Our Lord Jesus Will Soon Return""
**Just for Fun/My Comments & Observations**
* Tuloy Tally: 5...dozen (Stick around for a stroll down Memory Lane!)
* I just love how some of them sound like he's singing (or trying to)
* Again, since I didn't want to attract unwanted attention, I didn't time the prayers or sermon (or even how long the entire fiasco was).
* Manalo quips that to list every locale celebrating its anniversary would take the entire time, but has no problem giving an equivalently time-wasting sermon that, barring a few nuances, has been done to death and beyond.
* Manalo thanks God that we are members of INC. Well...who else will contribute to his semiweekly paycheck (which I suspect is why he mentioned offerings)?
* Subtlety, thy name is not Manalo. How does he expect to convert anyone or keep current brethren this way? Oh right, he just wants clout and money.
* Manalo himself admits the pandemic continues to worsen...but what exactly is he doing about it? Telling brethren to uphold their elections simply doesn't help, regardless of what he tells himself or what his yes-men tell him.
**Previous Tuloy Tallies/Links to Previous PPVs**
Continuing my ""Just for Fun"" section, I have decided to include all the tuloy tallies since I started tallying:
* [25 Oct 2020](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/): 45
* [08 Nov 2020](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/): 35 (tallied by u/carpeDM030)
* [22 Nov 2020](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/): 41
* [06 Dec 2020](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/): 64
* Possible record thus far?
* [20 Dec 2020](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/): 49
* [03 Jan 2021](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/): 43 (tallied by u/carpeDM030)
* [07 Feb 2021](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/): 42
* Side Comment: At 5 weeks, this is the longest break from PPV since I can remember. Will we get this lucky again?
* [07 Mar 2021](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/): 46
* 04 Apr 2021: 60 (u/NPCmasqueraiders691 tallied 62)
* Close 2nd...
Edited to adjust spacing",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,"Lmfao they really said ""Ama salamat. Nakita naman namin ang pamamahalang pangkalahatan/Father, thank you. We met EVM once again."" as the intro of their ending prayer.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,wow he really just fucking reused the lesson from his last webex stint huh,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,"I have the lesson but to sumarize, its about:
1. Submisiveness to the MIME. Most important man on earth
2. Dont get offended in giving offering. Suffer more, to get your pass to heaven",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,"Same old INC dogshit. Absolutely zero value.
Another 2 hours of my life I'll never get back.
Do yourselves a favor and enjoy a nice meal out instead of wasting your time.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,When Eddy went through the list of churches celebrating anniversary and said it would take all service to list them. It would have been more exciting listening to that than the drivel he spoke about !!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,"Lesson: Ang Dapat Na May Pagkakaisang Gawin ng Bawat Isang Kaanib sa Loob ng Iglesia ni Cristo
Seven Deadly Themes Checked:
✅ Intensive Propagation
✅ Administration
Holy cow, when will this sUmuNod at PasAkop taYo sa PaMaMaHaLa end?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,"So...more about propagation and obey the admin and stay faithful dont go cold stuff which only took about 2 hours and 62 tuloys.
I actually forgot what was like to hear a minister pray again. Man do they cry a lot.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,"I actually wasn’t listening but if you look closely, the plexiglass makes it look like one of the choir members doesn’t have a head hahaha",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,Same old vomit from the guy who will lead this church to its salvation. I just diverted my mind to the home project that I will do the next day.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,"just a reminder, [good deeds will not save you](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m5qkxv/if_this_is_the_case_why_does_inc_demands_its/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,I know you felt cheated (and we’ve all been there) and you’re not alone but the take away from this is that at least you woke up and that you’re not going to spend the rest of your life a slave of the INCULT.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,It’s never too late. Please share r/exiglesianicristo the safest way you can. In 2 years this sub grew from 2k to 10k. I have learned a lot of useful information especially about the man I was brainwashed to revere but is actually a false preacher Felix Manalo .,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,"Welcome to the *real* *truth* and enlightenment. 🍾 congratulations.
Keep learning and let the truth free you 💐",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,"^ My thoughts exactly.
Welcome to r/exIglesiaNiCristo!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,Those who willingly seek the truth on their own about this church will find it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,"Lol, but yet they're not a cult, right?😏",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,Makes you wonder of the OWEs notice or even bother at all.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,Lol it will never end. They need that brainwashing technique especially in this pandemic because of the money. Members will be guilt-tripped to comply for more revenue 🤑,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,The last paragraph has always been either the Manalos or the Pamamahala,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,"BTW, this is the lesson for HWS. Goodness, saved from PPV 😅",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,"I don’t speak for most OWEs since I left but my mother-in-law is highly aware of the repetitive lessons. But just like all OWEs, she’s making excuses that “perhaps there is a need because a lot of members can be so stubborn.” WOW 🙄",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,True. It sucks that I need to hear this every WS. 🥲,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 03 - Apr 06, 2021)",mizze0,2021-04-02,Yeah! I noticed it too.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,"**Sermon**
* Topic: ""We Must Go Through Trials to Determine if Our Faith Is Genuine and Loyal""
* I am not sure how this topic by itself would fall under the Seven Deadly Themes.
* This lesson marks a continuation in the re-teaching of the Bible lessons.
* Since the preacher did not mention translations, the links lead to the NKJV translation of each verse.
* [1 Peter 4:12-13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+4%3A12-13&version=NKJV)
* [1 Peter 1:6-7](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+1%3A6-7&version=NKJV)
* [Mark 4:14-20](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+4%3A14-20&version=NKJV)
* [Philippians 1:11](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+1%3A11&version=NKJV)
* [Ephesians 4:21-24](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+4%3A21-24&version=NKJV)
* [Galatians 2:20](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+2%3A20&version=NKJV) (mentioned only)
* [Hebrews 10:23, 25](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+10%3A23%2C25&version=NKJV)
* [Hebrews 10:26-27](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+10%3A26-27&version=NKJV)
* for reference: [Hebrews 10](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+10&version=NKJV) in full
* [Psalms 27:4-5, 1](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+27%3A4-5%2C1&version=NKJV)
* for reference: [Psalms 27](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+27&version=NKJV) in full
* [Hebrews 10:38-39](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+10%3A38-39&version=NKJV)
* [Revelation 14:12-13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+14%3A12-13&version=NKJV)
* [Revelation 21:1-4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+21%3A1-4&version=NKJV)
**Hymns and Comments**
* Foreword: I decided to include many of the older lyrics to demonstrate the church's brainwashing tactics, even during my probationary period in 2009-10.
* 237: ""Accept Me Once More""
* Not much to say here, good or bad, with this hymn or its prior revisions.
* 306: ""Our Lord God Does Not Forsake His Nation""
* If I remember correctly, this hymn was strategically released some time after the 2015 scandal occurred, and it definitely shows:
* the title itself, as reflected in the refrain and first stanza
* The second stanza is dedicated to the so-called detractors: *""All those who opposed and fought against/God's Messenger and holy work/They were vanquished, they were put to shame/God's prophecy fulfilled!""*
* May 306 be uploaded to YouTube one day, as all I can describe it as is a showtune masked as a ""hymn.""
* 227: ""I Am So Truly Blessed""
* [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZzwqiHuSI0&list=PLvjgSOUle2Ng164q0H7w4AVC1LhmyIFf6&index=37)
* ""Never leave the church"" hymn
* Refrain includes a lyric about duty.
* Even before this hymn got a new composition around 2014, the old lyrics were about as cult-ish (for lack of a better term) as they are now.
* For example, the first stanza: *""How fortunate am I indeed/How truly blessed is my life/Because I know that I belong/Here in the Church of Christ.""*
* 5: ""To Our Savior, Confide All""
* [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vV3obrvR1o&list=PLvjgSOUle2Ng164q0H7w4AVC1LhmyIFf6&index=32)
* The only old lyrics I know are: *""He gives light in darkness/ . . . /All your fears, all your tears, take to Jesus/And rest in His faithfulness.""* and *""Soar to light in darkness/ . . . /All your prayers, all your cares, take to Jesus/And rest in his faithfulness.""*
* Like 227, this hymn was temporarily retired before returning with an entirely new composition around 2013-14.
* 92: ""There Is a Promised Land""
* Refrain includes lyric about remaining in one's duty (even before the 2013 rewrite).
* Last part of second stanza has fearmongering lyrics: *""Yet all those left behind/Will weep in vain to find/That heaven's doors have closed/Forevermore.""*
* Some time before the 2013 rewrite (possibly around 2008-09ish?): *"". . .The gates indeed have closed/To this, our home.""*
* Closer to the 2013 rewrite (c. 2010-11): *""Yet sorrow waits for those/Who find the doors have closed/Forever left behind/Denied all hope.""*
* 55: ""The Truth, Only in the CHURCH OF CHRIST""
* Lecture hymn
* The first ""sentence"" in the first stanza is really a fragment: *""The glorious and divine truth—only in the CHURCH OF CHRIST.""*
* Pre-2013 lyrics: *""The Church of the Lord's salvation truly is the treasure of Christ.""*
* Refrain: stay in the church and never doubt: *""Never turn away dear brethren/From the Church loved by the LORD. Let's remove all doubts from our minds/And be faithful evermore.""*
* Pre-2013 lyrics: *""In the Church of Christ continue/Every trace of doubt subdue/Ever nurturing within you/Faith most deep, devout, and true.""*
* 287: ""Do You, in Truth, Belong to Jesus?""
* [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBlrTIaA5D8&list=PLvjgSOUle2Ng164q0H7w4AVC1LhmyIFf6&index=38)
* Lecture hymn masked as a feel-good hymn
* Last verse contains a mention of the worship service and always returning to it.
* I wish I knew the old lyrics. All I know are: *""Are you the blessed ones of Jesus?""* and *""Rise and rejoice. . . .""*
ADDENDA:
* Hymns 237 and 5 are the only things stopping the lineup from being complete dreck. Who knows when we'll see 5 again, since it's a very seldom played hymn.
* This lesson must be where the music dept. got the ""inspiration"" to write ""hymns"" such as 43 (""Do Not Be Sad and Do Not Fear"") and 466 (""Rejoice in Your Suffering"").
* 43, 2nd stanza: *""If persecution comes to you/Be filled with joy and not with grief. . . .""*
* Old 43, 1st stanza: *""When there are troubles in your life/When burdens deep in life befall/Let there be joy within your heart/For He will guide you through it all.""*
* Once again, the preacher pressures as many people as possible to return to the place of worship, claiming, ""God will keep us safe in His house.""
* Also, the preacher plugs Bible studies and other activities to guilt trip the brethren into attending.
Edit: a word",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06, Lesson: Dapat Magdaan sa Pagsubok Upang Malaman Kung Talagang Tunay at Tapat Ang Pananampalataya,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,Translation. Lesson: Must Pass the Test to Know If Faith Is Really True,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,Their style is an effective method to brain wash people. “Repeat a lie often times it becomes the truth”,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,Always the same heard for a thousand times for 15 years in inc,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,Nice and quick today. Barely had chance to listen to a full album !!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,I was tempted to skip a paragraph on yesterday's HWS. I am smiling inside however I proceed to read all the paragraph because I notice that I am already showing smirk,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,"""Let the admin exploit you no matter how hard and miserable it makes you. It is a test of your faith.""
""Forget the old you for you are naturally evil. Become the new you and be the church drone.""
That was what's in my head during the lesson. But to me honestly, this lesson's a little better than the lessons before this.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,"God, the minister in thursday was so **LOUD** during the after-prayer. He was literally so emotional with all that yelling I hadda cover my ears because the speakers sounded **SHARP**. I never close my eyes during prayer so I just observe everyone, minister becoming purple from screaming but like there was no tear like *lmao wat*
Fuck man, i hated that prayer. He was soooo loouuudd like for what reasooon?? I wasn't paying attention so idk why he had to pull that shit up. Go audition for an acting career or something ffs",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,"> I am not sure how this topic by itself would fall under the Seven Deadly Themes.
Thanks, I will list it as an ""outlier"" then.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,"Hebrews 10:23,25-27. INCult skipped verse 24
**23** Let us hold fast the confession of *our* hope without wavering, for He who promised *is* faithful. **24 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 25** not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as *is* the manner of some, but exhorting *one another,* and so much the more as you see the Day approaching **26** For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, **27** but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
Yup INCult just wants you to show up for brainwashing sessions. Forget about LOVE and GOOD WORKS",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,"I won’t be surprised if offering, obey and never complain is mentioned.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,So basically you're life sucks but be you should be grateful because you're in INC,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,"And so i did skip sentences, of course includes that sentence where evm is mentioned.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,Not mentioned.. But of course not forsaking worship services was mentioned..which equates to giving offerings... so pwedeng implied 😅,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,Should we do a bingo game then put there the usual ws topic,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,As usual. They are literally act like a broken record anyway.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,"Oh yeah, which they always has been saying.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,"Suggested Bingo slots
1. The last paragraph references the Administration /Manalo Dynasty
2. A verse was used out of context
3. The lesson is hypocritical to the Manalo Dynasty
4. The lesson is not from the fundamental lesson during Bible study
5. A verse was read twice",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 07 - Apr 09, 2021)",mlspzw,2021-04-06,1. Acts 20:28,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mlspzw/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_07_apr_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 10 - Apr 13, 2021)",mnwpg5,2021-04-09,"Lesson: Sa Araw ng Paghuhukom Magaganap ang pagkabuhay na muli ng mga patay at ang pagmamana ng mga Iglesia ni Cristo
Seven Deadly Themes covered: Don't Leave the INC",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mnwpg5/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 10 - Apr 13, 2021)",mnwpg5,2021-04-09,"They quoted again that only the members will be saved come judgment day. When you read the bible all you can see is ""churches of Christ"" or ""churches of God"". But when you read the Pasugo and other INC-related pamphlets, they changed it to CHURCH OF CHRIST or IGLESIA NI CRISTO in capital letters. If you are not careful enough you will be deceived by the ministers that you can actually read that name in the bible. It is either a typographical error or intentional.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mnwpg5/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 10 - Apr 13, 2021)",mnwpg5,2021-04-09,"**Sermon**
* ""On Judgment Day, the Resurrection of the Dead and the Granting of Inheritance to the Members of the Church of Christ Will Take Place"" *(I'll go ahead and say it now...couldn't the admin have chosen a shorter title?)*
* Deadly Theme: Don't leave the INC
* Preacher mentioned, even if briefly, intensive propagation and the administration.
* Since the preacher failed to mention any translations, I will link to the NKJV unless otherwise dictated.
* [Acts 17:31](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+17%3A31&version=NKJV)
* [Hebrews 9:27](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+9%3A27&version=NKJV)
* [Jude 1:14-15](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jude+1%3A14-15&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 24:3, 33](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24%3A3%2C33&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 24:6-8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24%3A6-8&version=NKJV)
* [2 Peter 3:7-10](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Peter+3%3A7-10&version=NKJV)
* This one could possibly be 7 and 10, since I don't remember hearing 8 or 9 because of my inattention.
* [Roman 8:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8%3A1&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 16:18](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+16%3A18&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 20:28 (Lamsa)](https://www.studylight.org/bible/eng/glt/acts/20-28.html) *(Surprise! /s)*
* [1 Thessalonians 4:16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Thessalonians+4%3A16&version=NKJV)
* [1 Thessalonians 4:17](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Thessalonians+4%3A17&version=NKJV)
* [Revelation 20:6](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+20%3A6&version=NKJV)
* [Revelation 20:5,7,10](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+20%3A5%2C7%2C10&version=NKJV)
* [Revelation 21:1-4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+21%3A1-4&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 24:44](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24%3A44&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 24:36](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24%3A36&version=NKJV)
* [2 Peter 3:14](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Peter+3%3A14&version=NKJV)
* [Colossians 3:14](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+3%3A14&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 24:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24%3A13&version=NKJV)
**Hymns**
* 169: ""O Father Dear, Most Great and Holy God""
* End of hymn includes lyrics about duty and staying in the INC
* This is the only hymn in today's lineup where the worshiper actually sings to God or Christ
* 61: ""Alleluia!""
* 170: ""Judgment Day Is Near""
* Lecture hymn about duty
* 245: ""He Will Take Us Home""
* Lecture hymn masked under a superficial title
* 67: ""My Sojourn Is Almost Over""
* 104: ""That Special Day""
* Refrain is about submission
* 287: ""Do You, in Truth, Belong to Jesus?""
* [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBlrTIaA5D8)
* Lecture hymn masked as a feel-good hymn
* Last verse contains a mention of the worship service and always returning to it
* *(Seems like not too long ago there was a different lineup with many lecture hymns \[*[*Here it is!*](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/grb86nz?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)*\].)*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mnwpg5/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 10 - Apr 13, 2021)",mnwpg5,2021-04-09,"The objective of this weekend's WS is to tell members what it's like when the rapture comes so that they will continue to uphold their membership in this cult.
Terrible joke I heard from the minister is why has Jesus Christ risen first before the members? It goes like this. Notice when you wake up, your head would rise first? Since JC is the head of this church, he has risen first! (lololol wth)
The WS was painstakingly long because the minister had to LITERALLY narrate what happens during the rapture. I mean why do we care about the sequence of who would be resurrected first? Then ending the looong sermon with the same old predictable statement, ""That's why we neeeeed to embrace our membership with this church.""
Insert the reminder to participate the online pamamahayag as it's Lord EVM's effort to save non-members from being thrown away to the lake of fire.
Rating for today's brainwashing session:
1 out of 5.
Though it's impossible for outsiders to buy this narrative, instilling fear to the member's minds & encouraging parents to be watchful of their household's actions would still be effective enough to maintain this cult's member count.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mnwpg5/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 10 - Apr 13, 2021)",mnwpg5,2021-04-09,"Wow. Been out for 2 months now, looks like I'm not missing out.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mnwpg5/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 10 - Apr 13, 2021)",mnwpg5,2021-04-09,"I think 245 is quite a nice tune actually, especially on it's own with no choir singing.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mnwpg5/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 10 - Apr 13, 2021)",mnwpg5,2021-04-09," The WS was painstakingly long because the minister had to LITERALLY narrate what happens during the rapture. I mean why do we care about the sequence of who would be resurrected first? Then ending the looong sermon with the same old predictable statement, ""That's why we neeeeed to embrace our membership with this church.""
It's the scare tactics for me.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mnwpg5/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 10 - Apr 13, 2021)",mnwpg5,2021-04-09,congratulations 💙💚💛,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mnwpg5/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 10 - Apr 13, 2021)",mnwpg5,2021-04-09,I have not attended for 5 years and I still remember that Lamsa translation verse.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mnwpg5/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,"What if members just blurt out the Rauffenberg script in the middle of WS.
I think part of the reason my family is OK with me no longer attending was because I make commentaries during the lesson that offends their brainwashed minds. I have already marked the verses in my Bible that is open during WS. Every verse is a REPEAT and I voice it out every time which is quite disruptive to them. So now we are all happy to each his own belief. I come here if I want to rant about INCult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,"Lesson: Dapat Nating Pakinabangan ang biyayang dulot ng ating kahalalan lalo na sa panahong malapit na tayo sa hangganan ng ating paglalakbay
Seven Deadly Theme covered: Don't leave the INC
Note: start of WW1 mentioned.. but only the year. Why o why?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,"Our minister did not mention the date of WWI only the year. And here comes the ""end is near"" blah blah. He mentions that we are one step closer to the judgment day. That same line I heard when I was still in children's worship service long time ago hahaha.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,"Oh no! People are losing their jobs and the pandemic is getting worse! The ""ends of the earth"" is happening now!
What can save you from all this? INC of course! Why INC you may ask? Because Acts 20:28 Lamsa says so!
That's not all! INC is the true church because because they have the power to manipulate time (they can actually change history like the ww1 start date) and its founder is also a time traveler! Its a miracle!
So come on in and for those who are in, don't leave! Dont forget to pay your membership fee! 💸🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪💸",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,"**Overview**
* ""We Should Benefit from the Blessing Brought About by Our Divine Election Especially Now That the End of our Journey Is Near""
* Deadly Theme: Don't Leave the INC
**Verses Read**
* [Isaiah 62:11-12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+62%3A11-12&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 20:28 (Lamsa)](https://www.studylight.org/bible/eng/glt/acts/20-28.html)
* [Matthew 24:6-8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24%3A6-8&version=NKJV)
* [2 Timothy 3:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+3%3A1&version=NKJV)
* [Isaiah 62:11-12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+62%3A12&version=NKJV) *(repeat)*
* [1 Samuel 12:22](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+12%3A22&version=NKJV)
* [Isaiah 41:17](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+41%3A17&version=NKJV)
* [Isaiah 45:22](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+45%3A22&version=NKJV)
* [Micah 7:7-8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Micah+7%3A7-8&version=NKJV)
* [Lamentations 3:28-29, 26](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Lamentations+3%3A28-29%2C26&version=NKJV) *(?)*
* Omitted: [3:27](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Lamentations+3%3A27&version=NKJV)
* [Psalms 86:1-4,6-8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+86%3A1-4%2C6-8&version=NKJV)
* For completion's sake, here is the omitted [Psalms 86:5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+86%3A5&version=NKJV).
**Hymns**
* 90: ""Repent for All Our Sins""
* 162: ""Let Us Serve Him""
* lecture hymn masked as a feel-good hymn
* mentions not being offended (2nd stanza)
* 106: ""I Have Been Saved""
* stanza 2 is about submission
* 40: ""His Blood Has Sanctified You""
* lecture hymn about submission; includes a lyric about obedience
* After the new hardbound hymnals were printed in 2017, this hymn had a lyrical change in 2019 that left the refrain without a rhyme scheme (much like many other hymns of the INC).
* 33: ""To You, We Completely Entrust""
* 223: ""True Are Your Teachings""
* submission hymn
* 287: ""Do You, in Truth, Belong to Jesus?""
* [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBlrTIaA5D8)
* Lecture hymn masked as a feel-good hymn
* Last verse contains a mention of the worship service and always returning to it
EDIT: Added links to omitted [Lamen. 3:27](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Lamentations+3%3A27&version=NKJV)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,Lol please tell us what other people's reactions are.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,">Note: start of WW1 mentioned.. but only the year. Why o why?
Because they got it wrong!
They're feeling insecure and afraid with all of the challenges from u/Rauffenburg and JV was shown as trying to dance in circle or better still, like a dog trying to catch his tail.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,I know no one asked but... My last ever convo with my ex was about the start date of WW1 😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,"not in our lesson, he mentioned July 27th 1914",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,Namumuno lamang ang nakikinabang sa kahalalan,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,The end is near has been the fear tactic since my dad was a kid. He’s been an adult for more than 50 years already.. is it really near?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,"The ""end is near"" also during the time of the apostles. Hahaha.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,"This comment is approved, others are able to view it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,"Thanks again for your post. Psalms 86:5 the one INCult did not read
Psalm 86:5
You, Lord, are forgiving and good, abounding in love to ALL who call to you.
INCult had to skip it because it doesn’t fit its narrative that ONLY INC members have the right to call on God",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,It was pandemic at home. Believe or not we are talking loud without moving our lips. I think the family just let me go vs going berserk in front of the camera. I was at that point listening to the same s#%t different day.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,Couldnt agree more :),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,"Oh, how did it go?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,"If its HWS, not mentioned. Maybe it is a f2f worship service?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,"She refused to listen. She just went offline and never replied. I sent her all the proofs, about the real WW1 start date vs INC's version of WW1 start date. ""INC is lying"", blablabla
But yeah, real shame she did what she did ツ The result of decades of brainwashing, I guess
EDIT: Some of her words before going radio silent were: ""I understand where you're coming from"", ""I know where I stand"", ""Will you just stop bullying me? (I forgot the exact words but she did bring the word *discrimination* here)""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,"I see. This is a normal reaction. If one is really brainwashed, it will be hard for her to accept it. Hopefully she will open her eyes and heart in the future.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 14 - Apr 16, 2021)",mqhumx,2021-04-13,"""Statistically speaking, there's always a chance for unlikely events to take place""
~ Connor, RX800
Amen. While it is very highly unlikely, but hey-- Last year she said if things go well she would go to Canada and make a new life there. I also remember sometime in the past where I said to her that INC don't bloc vote outside PH. She asked ""Huh, how do you know?"" I coudn't answer that because at that time the RoE (Rules of Engagement) was still undercover. Yes, I had to pretend that I know nothing about the INC and everything behind the curtain.
Well, if somehow someday she do get to Canada... I think I read here in this subreddit that INC members there don't bloc vote? Basically I want her to have that ""Oh, wow, he was right all along!"" moment. But looking at the reality, I'm not so sure. I heard the whole COVID sitution just became worse there in PH. And then there's also the ugly fact that she is *brainwashed*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mqhumx/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_14_apr_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 17 - Apr 20, 2021)",msiogu,2021-04-16,"Lesson: Ang Magagawa ng Diyos Para sa kapakanan ng Kaniyang Bayan sa Panahong ito.
Seven Deadly Theme Covered: (implicitly) Don't Leave the INC
Notes:
- I am not translating the title because someone is posting it already :)
- This is based on HWS lesson.
- I noticed that today's lesson was planned / prepared (binalangkas / inihanay, help i don't know the appropriate word) by Jun Santos. Errrm, okay?
- I also noticed that there are only 4 bible verses cited wholly on the lesson. The rest of the bible verses cited were just like context of it.
- Again and again, all of what's happening right now, we should not forget brethren, that this is part of God's wrath to this world and that the day of judgment is near!! Fuck! Not again!!!
- The victories of INC are very evident? What? How? Up until now, really? *facepalm*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/msiogu/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_17_apr_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 17 - Apr 20, 2021)",msiogu,2021-04-16,"**Overview**
* ""What God Can Do for the Welfare of His People in These Times""
* Deadly Themes Mentioned: Other Religions Are Wrong (somewhat centered on this one, as mentioned by u/VariationItchy8630)
**Verses**
* [1 Samuel 12:22](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+12%3A22&version=NABRE)
* [1 Peter 2:9-10](https://www.easyenglish.bible/bible/easy/1-peter/2/) *(links to full chapter)*
* [Colossians 1:12-14](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+1%3A12-14&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 20:28 (Lamsa)](https://www.studylight.org/bible/eng/glt/acts/20-28.html)
* [Isaiah 43:5-6, 8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+43%3A5-6%2C8&version=NKJV)
* omitted: [Isaiah 43:7](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+43%3A7&version=NKJV)
* [2 Corinthians 4:4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+4%3A4&version=NLT)
* [Isaiah 46:11-13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+46%3A11-13&version=NKJV)
* [Psalms 29:11](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+29%3A11&version=NKJV)
* [Zechariah 13:8-9](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zechariah+13%3A8-9&version=NKJV)
* [Psalms 44:4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+44%3A4&version=NKJV) *(?)*
* Repeat [Psalms 29:11](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+29%3A11&version=NKJV)
* [Philippians 2:12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2%3A12&version=NKJV)
* [Job 5:8-9, 11, 15, 18, 26](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+5%3A8-9%2C11%2C15%2C18%2C26&version=NKJV) *(?)*
* [Job 5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+5&version=NKJV) in full for reference
* [Psalms 62:1-2, 7-8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+62%3A1-2%2C7-8&version=NKJV)
* omitted: [Psalms 62:3-6](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+62%3A3-6&version=NKJV)
**Hymns**
* 173: ""We Draw Near to You""
* 143: ""I Offer Thanksgiving to You, Father""
* This hymn and 173 are the only ones today where the worshiper actually sings to God.
* 105: ""Peace for My Soul""
* 97: ""Always Call Upon Our Father""
* [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7afeSXXbRjw)
* 75: ""The Life Everlasting, He Will Bestow on Me""
* 209: ""The Church Belongs to God""
* showtune that seems to praise the church
* refrain includes a lyric about remaining in the church
* 287: ""Do You, in Truth, Belong to Jesus?""
* [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBlrTIaA5D8)
* lecture hymn masked as a feel-good hymn
* last verse contains a mention of the worship service and always returning to it
**Just for Fun/Comments**
* 3 for 3 for [Acts 20:28 (Lamsa)](https://www.studylight.org/bible/eng/glt/acts/20-28.html)!
* Don't you just love when the preacher muddles his way listing 6+ different verses at once (I know I don't!)?
* Part of me thinks it's to throw off people like me who like to track the verses.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/msiogu/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_17_apr_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 17 - Apr 20, 2021)",msiogu,2021-04-16,"Anyone else’s minister say the the verse about a bird of prey and King Cyrus was a mistranslation?
Our minister said that he’s only mentioned in some translations that are paraphrased.
Then explained that paraphrasing means to add to..
I’m like, English was my first language homie, and no, it does not mean to add, it means to summarize. 😂🤣",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/msiogu/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_17_apr_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 17 - Apr 20, 2021)",msiogu,2021-04-16,"Personal Analysis
1. Minister gave us the WebEx warning, dont share details, no distractions, dress smart
2. Minister was very hyper, arm waving/pointing
3. Way too long",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/msiogu/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_17_apr_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 17 - Apr 20, 2021)",msiogu,2021-04-16,This “lesson” is definitely the fat cowardly pig admin reacting and being scared of everything this sub has,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/msiogu/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_17_apr_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 17 - Apr 20, 2021)",msiogu,2021-04-16,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/msiogu/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_17_apr_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 17 - Apr 20, 2021)",msiogu,2021-04-16,"Why Is God always so angry amd constantly showerinv his wrath to the world...INC's God, all wrath, no love.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/msiogu/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_17_apr_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 17 - Apr 20, 2021)",msiogu,2021-04-16,"Eeerrr, did Peliks Manalo share something about the God's covenant?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/msiogu/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_17_apr_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 17 - Apr 20, 2021)",msiogu,2021-04-16,The INC is scared,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/msiogu/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_17_apr_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 17 - Apr 20, 2021)",msiogu,2021-04-16,"Which verses were mistranslations? The ones that actually state ""King Cyrus""? The same ones in the Greek Septuagint? LOL",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/msiogu/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_17_apr_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 17 - Apr 20, 2021)",msiogu,2021-04-16,Lol what happened????,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/msiogu/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_17_apr_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 17 - Apr 20, 2021)",msiogu,2021-04-16,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 17 - Apr 20, 2021)",msiogu,2021-04-16,Facts.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/msiogu/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_17_apr_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 17 - Apr 20, 2021)",msiogu,2021-04-16,"Right!? I was like... uh, trash argument because all someone has to do is pull up other translations and see it’s a lie. The entire chapter of Isaiah 45 (LITERALLY RIGHT BEFORE ISAIAH 46) is about King Cyrus.. so is it adding to the verse or stating the context? 😂😂",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/msiogu/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_17_apr_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 17 - Apr 20, 2021)",msiogu,2021-04-16,"Lesson was literally aimed at repeating every line of BS that Rauffenburg has debunked time and again, penned by the late Glicerio Santos Jr., and timed after JJV went berserk on FB",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/msiogu/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_17_apr_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 21 - Apr 23, 2021)",mv6v1r,2021-04-20,"Lesson: Piliin Ninyo ang Buhay
- My own translation: Choose (eternal) life
- HWS lesson
- If there is something influencing us to make us doubt on the words of God we received - like the importance of attending worship services, helping on propagation works, offering with our full capability (buong kaya) , obedience to Church Administration - we should be smart enough because these are being used by the devil to trick us. (Ohhh, are you talking about our sub? Lmao)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mv6v1r/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_21_apr_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 21 - Apr 23, 2021)",mv6v1r,2021-04-20,"**Overview**
* Endure until the end to receive eternal life (I didn't get to see the ""cheat-sheet"" this time)
* Deadly Theme(s): possible outlier? The topic itself did not center around the 7DT, but 2 were mentioned briefly/in passing:
* Brief mention of Social Media against the Church (especially in terms of trying to get the brethren to return to the place of worship)
* Offerings were also briefly mentioned (more specifically, in trying to get the brethren not to reduce their offerings)
**Verses**
* [Psalms 55:3](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+55:3&version=NKJV)
* [2 Corinthians 4:8-9](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+4%3A8-9&version=TLB)
* Preacher mentions, ""We get knocked down, but we get up again""
* [Psalms 32:8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2032%3A8&version=NKJV)
* Preacher mentions, ""loving eye""
* [Deuteronomy 30:15, 19](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+30%3A15%2C19&version=NKJV)
* [Deuteronomy 30:20](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Deuteronomy%2030:20)
* Preacher mentions the keyword, ""ancestors""
* [Genesis 3:1-6](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3%3A1-6&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 4:2, 4, 8-11](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+4%3A2%2C4%2C+8-11&version=NKJV)
* [2 Corinthians 4:18](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+4%3A18&version=TLB)
* [Psalms 57:1-3](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+57%3A1-3&version=NKJV)
**Disclaimer:** Although I tried to narrow down the translations based on certain keywords, as noted above, I was not able to deduce the translations quickly for Deut. 30:15,19; Matt. 4:2, 4, 8-11; or Ps. 57:1-3.
**Hymns**
* 51: ""We Now Return to You""
* 321: ""Sing to the LORD, Sing Him Praise""
* 141: ""We Need Perfect Love""
* lecture hymn
* [139](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqy5s95BBEc): ""I Will Serve Him""
* submission hymn
* 158: ""Do Not Be Sad""
* lecture hymn
* mentions being faithful to INC
* 130: ""His Words, Most Pure""
* lecture hymn: *""Don't ever be ashamed/Don't cast the truth away""*
* [287](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBlrTIaA5D8): ""Do You, in Truth, Belong to Jesus?""
* lecture hymn masked as a feel-good hymn
* last verse contains a mention of the worship service and always returning to it
**Just for Fun**
* I would be lying if I were to say I did not think of a certain Chumbawamba song when hearing the ""[we get knocked down, but we get up again](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+4%3A8-9&version=TLB)"" verse.
* Did anyone else's minister/worker include the obligatory/clichéd quip of ""Adam and Steve"" when preaching the story of Adam and Eve (Gen. 3:1-6)?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mv6v1r/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_21_apr_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 21 - Apr 23, 2021)",mv6v1r,2021-04-20,Every worship service these days the minister has a shameless plug about the propagation campaign. Really irritating.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mv6v1r/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_21_apr_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 21 - Apr 23, 2021)",mv6v1r,2021-04-20,They need a blind followers obey and never complain,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mv6v1r/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_21_apr_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,"Lesson: Mananampalataya ang naglalagak ng pag-asa sa biyayang darating
Seven Deadly Themes Covered: Offerings, Administration, Propagation.
My notes:
- My own translation of the title: Faithful is the one who puts hope in the grace that will come
- I thought that this lesson will be slightly different but f*ck.. hell no!!
- Based on the lesson: here is INC's checklist that you are faithful / show faith
1. Recognize and respect our most important man in the world, EVM. Oh yeah!! You're number one on the checklist!!
2. Dedication to attend worship services
3. Offerings!! (Macedonians mentioned again!)
4. Being firm on the things we believe. Because the devil will do anything to make us doubt! (Just like this sub? Lol). So... we need to intensify our propagation! Not again!
5. He does what is right.
- SAME, OLD shit. Are you running out of ideas on creating the lessons?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,"All the “lessons” are disgusting, but this one is another level of pathetic and disgusting fear-mongering bullshit!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,"EVM, motivated by his love (for money), works hard (on finding new ways to brainwash us) for our ""salvation"" (and to maintain his lavish lifestyle).
That's why he should not be disrespected (for taking your time and money)! Instead, we must help propagate, even it it kills us! (EVM will never be satisfied)
Don't let the devil decieve you! (With facts and evidence) It will only lead you to (freedom, happiness and a future) death and hell (better then living with OWEs)
Oh right! You must offer because Macedonian Macedonian Macedonian!
Church of Christ is true because Acts 20:28 Lamsa says so! Again!
Ugh! These lessons are driving me crazy!
Still beats going through physical ws though.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,"I got triggered when the minister read some bible verses about the people at Macedonia giving out to the poor with all they can. But after reading the verses, the minister explained that this is the reason why we need to offer abundantly so we can help the administration with the church expenditures. Like what? This how deeply brainwashed the members are. It's so obvious how this minister twisted the verses and yet no one seems to bother question him. Well i did in my mind but i am just hoping that there are other members who are silently protesting as well. For the fat guy in central, here's an empty envelope for you dumb **s.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,"**Overview**
* ""Those Who Put Their Hope in the Grace That Will Be Theirs Are Firm Believers""
* Deadly Theme(s) Mentioned: The Administration, Offerings, Intensive Propagation (like what u/VariationItchy8630 mentioned)
**Verses**
* [1 Peter 1:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+1%3A13&version=NKJV)
* [1 Peter 1:3-4, 18-19](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+1%3A3-4%2C18-19&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 20:28](https://www.studylight.org/bible/eng/glt/acts/20-28.html)
* [Hebrews 11:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+11%3A1&version=NKJV)
* [1 Thessalonians 5:12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Thessalonians+5%3A12&version=NKJV)
* mention of the administration
* [Hebrews 10:25](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+10%3A25&version=NKJV)
* EDIT: I don't know how, but I completely neglected to list [2 Corinthians 8:1-3](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+8%3A1-3&version=NKJV)
* mentions of offerings
* more specifically, how the Macedonians abounded in their offerings
* [1 Corinthians 16:2](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+16%3A2&version=NKJV) *(mentioned)*
* mention of offerings
* [1 Corinthians 15:58](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+15%3A58&version=NKJV)
* [1 Thessalonians 5:8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Thessalonians+5%3A8&version=NKJV)
* [Hebrews 6:17, 19](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+6%3A17%2C19&version=NKJV)
* [Revelation 14:12-13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+14%3A12-13&version=NKJV)
* Note that intensive propagation was not given its own verse(s) (unless I missed something) but mentioned in passing between verses (I forgot which ones in particular.).
* No translations were named *(again)*, so with one exception *(Can you guess which one?)*, the links go to the NKJV, the ""default"" translation *(except when it isn't)* of the Church of Manalo.
**Hymns**
* 39: ""Now Draw Near to Jesus""
* 323: “Praises to You, Our Father Dear”
* condemnation in the 1st stanza.
* 504: ""Put All Your Hope in the Grace That Will Be Yours""
* lecture hymn
* mentions upholding one’s election
* 486: ""O God, Willingly, I Offer You My Heart""
* submission hymn
* refrain includes a lyric about obedience
* [378: ""The Sure and Strong Anchor for Our Lives""](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd3_NTilqIo)
* 469: ""In His Church, Be Found When the Lord Returns"" *(really music dept.?)*
* includes the lyric: ""constantly obey"" *(eye roll)*
* [""I Am a Member of the Church of Christ""](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jtvxZ_fay8)
* ***THE*** submission hymn where the singer celebrates his/her ""calling"" into the so-called church
* [287: ""Do You, in Truth, Belong to Jesus?""](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBlrTIaA5D8)
* lecture hymn masked as a feel-good hymn
* last verse contains a mention of the worship service and always returning to it",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23," MACEDONIA BIBLE VERSE! SEE HOW THEY CHERRY PICKED THE VERSE.
**In the recent WS they read the verse 2 Corinthians 8:1-3 and used the Bible version** ***EASY ENGLISH Bible.***
But if we read the verse on **NIV** ***(New International Version)***, this is what we get:
*1. And now, brothers and sisters, we want you to know about the grace that God has given the Macedonian churches.*
*2. In the midst of a very severe trial, their overflowing joy and their extreme poverty welled up in rich generosity.*
*3. For I testify that they gave as much as they were able, and even beyond their ability. Entirely on their own,*
**THEY CHERRY PICKED** ***EASY ENGLISH BIBLE*** BECAUSE IT SAYS THERE:
1 My Christian friends, let me tell you about the *believers* in the *churches* in Macedonia. God has been very kind to them. 2 They have had bad troubles, but they continued to be very happy. As a result, ***they gave a lot of money*** to other people. They themselves are very poor, but they still helped other people a lot. 3 Let me tell you this. ***They gave as much money*** as they were able to give. Then they gave even more than that! They gave it because they wanted to.
**SEE THE EMPHASIS ON MONEY????**
**The original version of this text (Textus Receptus is this...)**
8:1 γνωρίζομεν δὲ ὑμῖν ἀδελφοί τὴν χάριν τοῦ θεοῦ τὴν δεδομένην ἐν ταῖς ἐκκλησίαις τῆς Μακεδονίας
8:2 ὅτι ἐν πολλῇ δοκιμῇ θλίψεως ἡ περισσεία τῆς χαρᾶς αὐτῶν καὶ ἡ κατὰ βάθους πτωχεία αὐτῶν ἐπερίσσευσεν εἰς τὸ πλοῦτος τῆς ἁπλότητος αὐτῶν
8:3 ὅτι κατὰ δύναμιν μαρτυρῶ καὶ παρὰ δύναμιν αὐθαίρετοι
As you can see, if you look at it, word for word, **there is no MONEY in the text** but rather it says: ***they gave as much as they were able, and even beyond their ability.***
***QUESTION IS WHAT THEY GAVE AND TO WHOM THEY GAVE?***
**WHAT THEY GAVE?**
ANS: NOT OFFERING. IT IS TO HELP OTHERS (LET US SEE THE VERSE THE MINISTER READS USING *EASY ENGLISH BIBLE)*
1 My Christian friends, let me tell you about the *believers* in the *churches* in Macedonia. God has been very kind to them. 2 They have had bad troubles, but they continued to be very happy. As a result, ***they gave a lot of money*** ***to OTHER PEOPLE.*** They themselves are very poor, but they still **helped OTHER PEOPLE** a lot. 3 Let me tell you this.
**TO WHOM THEY GAVE MONEY?**
ANS: **TO OTHER PEOPLE.**
**YOU READ IT RIGHT. TO OTHER PEOPLE. HELP OTHER PEOPLE.**
**NOT OFFER TO THE CHURCH ADMINS! CHECK MATE:**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,Sebastian R. What happens to your FB account?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,I wonder if ministers are also tired of preaching the same crap over and over. They probably feel the most trapped. Imagine having your family dependent on what the administration gives you. You can’t exactly just quit since you have no other work experience other than preaching. Must suck to be a minister.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,"Thank you for sharing. Nothing new as always with INC, same rehash shit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,I skipped reading the entire paragraph regarding the Macedonians. Saved me a minute there.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,"I rarely listen, but caught a little of this one. They took kissing EVM's hindquarters to a whole new level. I would love to post a few of the ministers comments here, but I am not sure if they are his, or were part of the lesson sent out by the administration. So I will refrain for now.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,They have to up the ante because they lost so much ever since the pandemic started. It’s the only way for them to stay afloat and maintaining the lifestyle that the Manalo have grown accustomed to.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,Another recycled lesson to guilt trip members to give more money 😖,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,It got mass reported by INC trolls,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,"Well, if they’re truly brainwashed, then I’m sure they don’t mind. But if they’re awake, then that just hell on earth. Imagine doing a job that you’re bored and no longer care to do but you don’t have any means to leave because you’re trapped?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,True. Obey and never complain or else they will lose what they have... 😟,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,"I've not attended for 5 years, nothing has changed and nothing will.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 24 - Apr 27, 2021)",mxbc1l,2021-04-23,"No you didn’t miss much. I have a friend who married into the church (because like me, he was also coerced into joining) but he left soon after the wedding. He didn’t attend any of the WS while in their honeymoon and that was 11 years ago. However, he learned that his name (attendance tag or whatever else you call that thing) was still there and he was so angry about it, though his INC wife never informed about it. I guess she’s been hoping and fantasizing that he will someday return to the church. Therefore, he decided to go to church right before the pandemic hit in order to inform them to remove his tag and so forth. While he was in the chapel, his wife coerced him into attending the WS. Well, let’s just say that he was exasperated because the lesson was the same as the last lesson he attended 11 years ago. He swore that he would never returned, much to his wife’s chagrined.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"Literally the same topic as with previous WS. It's not even a rehash, it's a completely low-effort repetition.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"Lesson: Ang pagsunod sa mga utos ng Diyos ay napakahalaga upang mapagtagumpayan ang mga suliranin sa buhay
Seven Deadly Themes Covered: Don't Leave the INC, (little) Offerings, The Administration, (little) Intensive Propagation
Notes:
- My own translation: Obedience to God is important to overcome problems in life
- Poverty, problems, calamities, crimes - these are signs that the end of the world is near
- God already forewarned us that we will go through all of these
- To overcome these, we need to listen and obey God. So we should not neglect worship services
- We don't have any reason to be weak and discouraged because the blessings of God will make us strong and inspire us to fulfill our duties being a Christian
- We will receive abundance from God if we will prioritize His works and obey His teachings - guess what were enumerated? offerings, intensive propagation, obedience to administration, love of (INCs) brotherhood.. nice entry
- The last sentence again reiterates the importance of praying to God and... AND OBEDIENCE TO THE ADMINISTRATION because of their unwearied efforts to guide and teach us the words of God for our salvation. Lolllllll",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,Pre holy supper lesson today. Plz plz plz don’t be a long one,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"The world is ending some more! Pandemic, typhoon, earthquake blah blah blah. People are so scared and depressed. How to make them feel better? Tell them what to do of course!
Obey obey obey! It will ease your depression! No matter how many problems the church admin throws at you, you must always obey!
Following God's command will cure your mental illness. So from now on, you must follow whatever God (whose probably EVM at this point) tells you to do.
First order of the day (to us here at least). Make a Birthday Video Greetings to Angelo Manalo after weekend worship service. Do that or you'll go to hell! Heil the Manalos!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"INC cult used to cite bible verses that proved that the end is near like typhoons, earthquakes, pandemic, wars, and that the members must bear fruits, increase their offerings, obey and never complain, etc. These things (wars, calamities, pandemics) are already happening long time ago.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"It's been the same for years. I don't get it why members put up with it.
While I was still inside, I used to leave early from the chapel because I couldn't take the agonizing boredom. This is simply ludicrous. Is this because they're just downright lazy or is this some kind of a sick joke from the administration simply to test the members to see if they could tolerate it? SMH",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,good thing I do my worship service in my room just to play games during the lesson,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,">Make a Birthday Video Greetings to Angelo Manalo after weekend worship service
is this really a thing now? genuinely curious",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,Never though this comment would become a battlefield! 😆😆😆,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"Oh really?? That’s BS no one told us that make a greetings, and if you don’t make greeting you go to hell? What the hell, you just making up stories, that means your such a liar just like your father Satan, I know you’re just bitter . Wake up from your nightmares, you know in your heart that you are in a wrong side,, he he he he, you should say to your self well come hell,,,",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"You guys are all bunch of clowns,, 🤡,all your comments are back firing on all of you. Fire and sulfur is now waiting for you, Especially LJ caraang aka Rauffenburg,,",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"We are being instructed to tell our ""sakops"" or the brethren under our care as officers at to make a birthday video greetings to Angelo Manalo after this coming weekend service. Probably applies to us too at least here in my area.
This is the first time I received instructions like these. I even recieved step by step instructions on how the birthday video greetings must be done.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,Yep.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"3.Keep it Civil
Please do not engage in personal attacks or trolling. Disagreement is fine, but stay civil. Do not intentionally try to provoke a negative reaction out of someone.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"""Wah wah wah, its too hard to handle the truth""
🤣🤣🤣🤣",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"Sorry, wrong guy/gal.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,I'll see you there 😉,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,u/Rauffenburg = LJ Carang? No way. Rauffenburg has been around a LOT longer than LJ. I think LJ was still in the cult and probably barely a teenager when Rauffenburg began exposing INC.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"Looks like you are deeply rooted within the administration's problems such as their enemies, etc something they seriously stuffed up back in 2015 and have never really recovered from that. You are wasting your life to be honest. Nah, of course you are indeed proud. According to you this mostly non INC world full of so-called satanic enemies is infact a lot nicer than the people of your pathetic attitude! Enjoy life, enjoy seeing the good people suffer (according to your point of view), it is beautiful yep yep yep. Actually we are enjoying our life not hearing similar topics in the worship service twice a week.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,lmao you actually think heaven will be full of filipinos haha,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"You have disobeyed what's recorded at Matthew 5:44. Remember James 2:10 my fellow brethren. Just so you know, I'm still an active officer and an INC member. I can be just as loyal as you on the surface.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"Did I mention that we were also told to watch CFO news and greet happy birthday to Angelo Manalo in the comments section or Happy CFO day?
Also to take pictures of us watching the CFO news as well as screenshots as proof to the district?
Sure, call it more ""lies"" from ""the son of Satan"" himself. Whatever we say here are automatically lies to you anyway.
Enjoy reading my ""lies"" brother.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"**3.Keep it Civil**
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,Please keep it civil. Consider yourself warned.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,...goddamn thats disgusting. Whats more disappointing is that the people that didnt wake up when they started making EVM happy birthday videos will also see nothing wrong about this one. sigh,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"That’s disgusting. So basically the powers that be instructed you guys to start making EVM’s baby smile? Wow, and I thought they couldn’t sink so low to the level of a$$ kissing.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"No not me, but you and your self only..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,INC hunters were writing articles about me as early as the 2015s or about.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"Oh yeah you’re enjoying??? Really??? Seriously?ha ha ha you’re just one unlucky bitter person, stop sharing your bitterness, just shut up and go on to your dungeon..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,lets remind him how INC members were required to take pictures about 'bearing 6 fruits' and post on social media earlier this year. Yeah totally normal thing to do; totally not a cult,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,Not to mention the other things we were told to do I mentioned the details as a reply to the one who called us a bunch of clowns.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,Are you speaking about yourself?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"No wonder, you’re just simply a forever product of “Obey and Never Complain” Incorporated.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"You just described every INC member. Full of lies, hate, and lack of understanding.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"I will say one last thing about you and to me you seem like the typical childish minister who gets great pleasure seeking down even the slightly disobedient members and shaming them. If you enjoy doing this, enjoy it because we don't give a damn about you because you certainly have some serious problems in your life. And according to you of course I have problems. Do I care?, no ******* way! I've been out of this mess for a few years and it is the best decision I have ever made in my life. If the scandal in 2015 did not happen, who knows where I would be today, probably still a member. Only 3 million INC members in a world of 7 billion, it is a tiny sect and I know INC members who are much more forgiving than you. A lot of them are decent, law abiding people and I respect them for their beliefs. You are wasting your time posting here. Remember: OBEY AND NEVER COMPLAIN ... now you need to follow that, STOP COMPLAINING and STOP posting on here.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,You’ve been warned. It’s apparent that you’re incapable of being civil. I’m removing your post.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"**3.Keep it Civil**
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"3.Keep it Civil
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"Unfortunately, I'm still in the church. So yeah, I'm totally bitter so I'm continuing! Do I regret this? Not really I'm actually enjoying this. Did I say I was happy? I wish I was but I'm not, but remember this, I will not be silenced here by the likes of you!
Ready for another fairy tale?
We are required to have 6 converts by the end of 2021. INC is not a cult right?
We are once asked to ""voluntarily"" offer on what was called ""historical offering"". INC is not a cult right?
Ministers always include EVM in their prayers and members hang FYM, EGM and EVM pictures in their homes. INC is not a cult right?
In conclusion, INC is not a cult. Oh wait, that's a lie too right?
Good day brother and always remember to pray for EVM and to offer a lot of money! Keep living in the fantasy dude! You do you!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,INC did not even reached 3 million. Its much lower. They just boast their increasing numbers but that's not the case. They are dwindling that's why they are desperately recruiting non-members to join the cult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,"They claim they’re growing, but the reason they’re growing is that they’re splitting locales and establishing new ones. They’re splitting districts claiming growth.
They aren’t growing. It’s all lies.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,Well who knows?. I would not be surprised if it was a lot less. We'll never know the exact truth.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 28 - Apr 30, 2021)",n05e43,2021-04-27,They used to hide the exact or real numbers. All you can hear from them is that the membership is growing ang that the other religions are declining in numbers.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n05e43/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_28_apr_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,"How sad as a Christian that you go to church and they don't even preach the Gospel of Jesus. Instead, they preach the Gospel of Felix.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,"The lesson was all about Felix Manalo, so I was expecting them to go over their idiotic bird of prey and ends of the earth spiel, but there was absolutely no verses read about Felix Manalo emerging as the last messenger lol.
Really it was just Felix Manalo is the last messenger lol and the same old shit they preach every week, obey, obey the administration, propagation, generous offerings, and what a shocker, Minister made sure to announce another upcoming special offering mid sermon. Oh btw Felix is the last messenger but we’re not going to bother explaining why he’s the last messenger even though he is the topic lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,Its all about Felix Manalo.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,"Didn't listen, all I can remember is Felix Manalo Felix Manalo Election Divine Words bla bla bla.
Our minister also slipped during prayer, ""Bless Brother Felix... erm Brother Eduardo""
Edit: Typo. Diving -> Divine",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,The amount of self fellating in recent lessons have been really high after some of their high ranking ministers died and they ran out of EGM material to vomit out. It’s pretty disgusting.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,"With FYM's birthday fast approaching like Christmas. We dedicate this lesson to be all about Our Dear Eternal Leader Felix Manalo. 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Felix Manalo, the last messenger of God's (Hebrew 1:2 is a lie) birthday is coming.
Through him, God speaks to us. Through him, God's will be done! Through him, we will all be saved! (A Filipino Jesus replacement indeed)
Don't let the devil decieve you (with cold hard facts and evidence proving INC wrong). They will only lead you astray. (And keep you happy and sane)
(Not part of the lesson but I'm sure this is part of INC doctrine)
Remeber you can and are encouraged to greet Felix Manalo a happy birthday when the time comes but DO NOT celebrate Christmas and greet Jesus a happy birthday when that time comes! That's paganism!
Seriously, Is Jesus not metioned at all in this lesson? Or is it just me not paying attention?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,Early birthday celebration.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,Oh you mean the fake messenger? The ravenous bird from the far east? The worm Jacob?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,"Yeah they didn’t mention Jesus. Really makes you think why they even call themselves Christian.
Also mentioning that they conveniently avoid saying their dear Sugo/Last Messenger celebrated Christmas.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,"he's not a worm, a virus.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,Felixians?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,A deadly virus...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,Felixists? Sounds like Felix Cysts,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,...without a vaccine available,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,"There is already a vaccine, we just need to spread it. Just share this link: [https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 01 - May 04, 2021)",n29og1,2021-04-30,Of course,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n29og1/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_01_may_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,"Very specific shit about ""articles you read online"". How ""if you believe you are easily swayed by the devil."" This subs rise is getting to them special thanks to JJV's fiasco.
Funny how they make no effort debunking said 'criticisms'. Instead they'll keep saying ""DONT BELIEVE IT. DONT BELIEVE IT"" and ""Don't leave INC"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,"In UK was supposed to be rehearsal for Holy Suffer in person. Asked us to sign away our rights not sue if we caught or passed on COVID. There wasn't an online version, so me, wife and sis in law didn't attend. No message on Telegram to ask why (as of 9am Thursday)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,"**Overview**
* ""How Those Whom God Has Saved Keep the Faith""
* Deadly Theme: The Administration (mentioned extensively through the introduction; interspersed throughout the remainder of the sermon)
* I kid you not, my preacher managed to mention *every* Deadly Theme at some point or another, even if only for a few words.
* He mentions offerings, specifically calling out anyone that dare even think about reducing their contribution.
* He mentions social media against the church, attempting to refute those who discourage the return to the place of worship.
* By extension, he labels anyone who writes anything against the church a detractor.
* He takes a moment to bash other religions, especially the Catholic Church (see one of my comments below).
* He gravely discourages anyone from leaving the INC.
* He shamelessly plugs upcoming Bible studies and other activities, and pressures those in attendance into sharing the links and invites. Yep...7 for 7!
**Verses**
* [Acts 2:42](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Acts%202:42)
* [1 Corinthians 15:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1%20Corinthians%2015:1) [to 2](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1%20Corinthians%2015:2)
* [1 Timothy 4:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1%20Timothy%204:1)
* [Matthew 24:8-12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew24:8-12) (links to NKJV)
* [Jude 1:3](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Jude%203)
* [1 Timothy 6:12](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1%20Timothy%206:12)
* [Ephesians 6:12](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Ephesians%206:12)
* [1 Timothy 1:18-20](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+1%3A18-20&version=NKJV) (links to NKJV)
* [2 Timothy 4:7](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Timothy%204:7) [to 8](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Timothy%204:8)
* [Matthew 24:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%2024:13)
**My Comments**
* For most of the entries above, I link to the pages that show all available translations on Bible Gateway. For the entries that span more than two verses, I link to NKJV; near the top is a dropdown that allows the user to select his or her desired translation if necessary.
* Preacher: ""Where can we find the doctrines of demons? It's the Catholic Church!"" *(1.5 seconds later)* ""We're not trying to bash the Catholic Church.""
Me: *(Internally)* ""Thank goodness he can't see my mouth behind this mask...""
**Hymns (and More Comments)**
* 280: ""Intercede with Our Father""
* 313: ""Oh, Thank You, My Lord God—All Praise to You!""
* submission hymn disguised as a hymn of praise
* 268: ""We Remember God's Messenger""
* Captain Obvious says: ""This is an idolatry hymn!""
* This is one of a handful of hymns (others including 35; 89; and 201 IIRC) that still says, ""last messenger."" Possible oversight? Possible change in doctrine?
* Oh, it's the birthmonth of either Felix Y. Manalo (10 May), Eraño G. Manalo (2 Jan), or Eduardo V. Manalo (31 Oct)? The church and its hymns will be more than happy to remind you repeatedly!
* 54: ""Our Worship Service""
* ""lecture hymn,"" says Captain Obvious
* 132: ""Who Will Part Me from Christ?""
* Is it just me, or has this hymn been played a lot recently?
* 28 Jan *(originally scheduled for 21 Jan)*
* 7 Feb (PPV)
* 28 Mar
* and now this is already the 4th time in just over 4 months
* I think I know why it's being played more: the line, ""He will defend me, for I'm in His fold,"" conditions the worshiper into never leaving the church.
* 30: ""The Holy Bible""
* Deceiving title, as the refrain is about the messenger
* Surprisingly, it doesn't also include ""in these last days""
* BTW, I heard ""these last days"" used to be ""the last day"" (or something to that effect). Now the ""church"" will act like ""the last day"" was never published (similar to ""messenger"" vs. ""last messenger,"" even though the latter hasn't been completely eliminated).
* This month's offertory, 474, is a showtune-like hymn that mentions obedience, not doubting or being offended, and even includes lyrics about propagation. You will hear this ""hymn"" during your Holy Supper (or already have if you already partook) as the deacons recollect the shot glasses/cups.
* 473: ""His Teachings Should Be Made Completely Manifest in Us""
* hymn about duty/obedience
* Stanzas 2 and 3 paint the OuTsIdE wOrLd in a negative light, as is typical in cults (even non-INC cults)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,"This lesson reeks of desperation from the cult admin, especially with this sub’s growth and truth spreading. They’re sweating buckets with the crap they vomitted this midweek service.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,"Since no one posted the midweek WS yet, here is some pointers I had...
-Dont leave the church because it means you believe the teachings of the devil... lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,"Lesson: Ang Pag-aalaga sa pananampalataya ng mga iniligtas ng Diyos
Notes:
- My own translation of the title: Nurturing one's faith of the people saved by God
- Seven Deadly Themes Covered: Don't Leave the INC; The Administration
- Implicitly stated that Catholics were the ones turned away to being true Christians because they obeyed devil's teachings - forbidding to eat meat and marriage (referring to priests)
- Faith must not be given up to anything or anyone who hopes to harm it - whether they are persecutors of another religion sect or fake / false brethren who want to just create division (oooppsssss you talkin' about this sub? 😆😆)
- thus this is the time we need to be more dedicated on our worship services and works of God so that devil will not have be able to deceive us (through this reddit 😂😂😂😂 lol)
- brainwashing lesson at its finest
Edit: this is PPS / HWS lesson",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,"LOLs at the lessons hahaha. I don't want to follow the doctrines of the devil which is found in the INC cult. The members are following the man-made doctrines of EVM not of God. INC is the modern day Babylon. (**Babylon** the Great, commonly known as the Whore of **Babylon**, refers to both a symbolic female figure and place of evil mentioned in the Book of **Revelation** in the Bible). INC cult became the home of the devil.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,"As a parent, I believe that the best way to protect my children is through education. Simply telling your children, “don’t do drugs” “don’t have sex”, etc ARE NOT effective and certainly not enough. Education is the key and letting them know the consequences of doing drugs and sex, etc.
Therefore, for INC with their “DON’T BELIEVE IT” stance isn’t enough. If anything, it will prove just the opposite way. Curiosity is like an addiction in which telling someone to not do it will likely make that person more curious that they are more likely to search for things just to see what it’s like.
If they want members to stay, then they need to educate them as to why they should not believe what they read online. Unfortunately, this is where INC is caught between the rock and a hard place, their doctrine is simply not enough to sustain them. It might have worked during FYM time but in this world, the internet is their number one enemy. They could no longer suppress the truth and that is why, their memberships have been dwindling for years. They are not growing despite their fairytale claims.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,"Careful you don't out yourself my dude, each district has different schedules for HS, even more so within each locale within the UK due to covid. My friend in the UK says only the bigger locales with their own chapels are going through with HS. Rented places haven't done it yet",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,Can you take a picture of that waiver? It is evidence that the church is a covid super spreader.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,Report them. Breaches of lockdown rules are taken seriously in the UK.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,"Good for all of you for following the health guidelines regarding COVID-19 and most especially, for listening to your instinct and not following INC.
You should report them to your local enforcement and Heath department that INC is making members signed regarding COVID-19. This is not right at all. I don’t know the laws in the UK but as a registered nurse in the front line here in the US, absolute no one should even be entertaining about this, let alone sign your rights away especially when it comes to your health. Report them immediately. This is beyond disgusting!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,"What the hell INC? Trying to make the Covid pandemic worse on purpose just to ""prove"" that the world is ending?
Iglesia Ni Covid1913
Covid19 Laced Welsh = Toxic Koolaid",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,"Doctrines of demons? Prohibition of marriage and foods? Yup, found in the INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,Thanks for your due diligence in sharing your notes and verses of INCult Brainwashing sessions. I did the same thing for 2 years and established the pattern of deceit with the repetitive verses and butchering of the verses by the INCult. At the same time I was also reading the Bible. Just wondering if you have engaged yourself into reading the Bible too even just for familiarity of where INCult hangs around a lot and how much far off their doctrine is from the context of the verse they are quoting.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,Lol its as if they were trying damage control from their trainwreck of a defense.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,Its OK. I'm getting out soon. This isn't my real name also !!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,Thats because here in UK most rented places are community centers so the local councils have not opened them yet.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,"It's so wild that they use this against Catholics. A Catholic member can marry anyone they want and not be expelled. Priests and nuns do it by free choice.
And as for forbidding to eat meat...you mean on Fridays during Lent? LOL...its not forbidden, it's recommended and a choice if a person wants to do that type of fasting (which really isnt even a fasting). No one is saying you will go to hell if you eat a cheeseburger on a Friday during Lent HAHAHAHA
Now as for the INCult and marriage...yeah, well we know where they stand with that! A true doctrine of the devil! MUUUAAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,They can try to cover up but I think it's too late at this point. Too many are waking up. That's why they're in a panic state with their 6 converts per family which we all know it's never going to happen because no one in their right minds will join a cult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,Congratulations in advance.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,Delete telegram and u are 99% out. Best thing I ever did.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 05 - May 07, 2021)",n55nyx,2021-05-04,Never installed it !!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n55nyx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_05_may_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"Days ago I teased you guys that this weekend's CWS will be a spicy topic... And I promise Im not going to disappoint everyone.
(CWS Script was transcribed and translated from tagalog by yours truly)
Title: The Iglesia ni Cristo firmly believes that Felix Manalo is God's Messenger
1. Why does the INC believe in a messenger and God sending a messenger?
-According to Christ, a messenger and sending a messenger is God's will that we should believe in. (John 6:29)
2. Why did Jesus say that sending a messenger is God's act?
-Being a messenger is a calling from God, God decides and gives the right to his messenger. (Hebrews 5:4)
3. What does the Apostles say about preachers who weren't given the right nor called by God?
-They are not tested nor have passed, and have no idea what they are preaching. (II Corinthians 10:12 & 18)
4. How does God call a messenger to start an organization that belongs to God?
-One of the ways that God calls a messenger is through direct contact, just like Moses. (Exodus 3:10-11)
5. In the Christian era, how does God call a messenger?
-Through a prophecy just like John the Baptist and Jesus Christ. (Mark 1:2-4; Luke 4:14 & 16-21)
6. Is there a prophecy that depicts the calling of Bro. Felix Manalo?
-The prophecy of Isaiah about a man that God chose from the ""ends of the earth"". (Isaiah 41:9)
7. When is the time that they call ""ends of the earth""?
-When the end of the earth comes near or the second coming of Christ; wars, famine and earthquakes are the things that Christ warned us. (Matthew 24:3, 33 & 6-8)
8. When did these warning signs got fulfilled that God himself prophesized wherein his Messenger will start his mission to save the people?
-During the First World War in 1914 (footnote of Matthew 24:3 & 6-8 Last Days Bible)
9. Why wont the past messengers of God be mistaken for the one prophesized in Isaiah 41:9?
-It stated the location to where the messenger will rise, in the far east. (Isaiah 46:11; 43:5 Moffatt)
10. Where was the far east that was prophesized got fulfilled?
-In the Philippines (World History, p. 445)
11. What further proves that Felix Manalo was the prophesized messenger in the far east and the ends of the earth?
-God's promise that he will help and strengthen him in his mission was fulfilled in him. (Isaiah 41:9-10)
12. What does God say towards the people that will go against His Messenger?
-They will be put to shame, confused and will perish. (Isaiah 41:11-12)
13. Why wont the enemies of our faith succeed in stopping the works that the Messenger in these last days have started?
-This is God's work that's why no one can stop it. (Isaiah 43:13)
My comments: Hmmmm, I wonder what will biblical scholars say if they see this shit being taught to children lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"Wow John 6:29 Jesus is talking about Himself and only Himself. INCult heretics is inserting Felix into the equation. Readers and OWEs if you are still thinking that INCult doctrine is pristine, please wake up and smell the scam.
BTW thanks for this post. There is plenty of data here on the blatant brainwashing that INCult does to their young members.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"🎄🎄 May 10 is INC's Christmas day!🎄🎄
Merry Manalomas everyone!
Another lesson about our Eternal President's hard work, love and care. And his founding of North Korea oh sorry I mean INC!
At least Jesus was mentioned in this lesson but he's not really the most important person now is he?
Oohh the devil gets yet another special mention!
Other than that...its the same BS.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"**Overview**
* ""How Our Commemoration of God's Messenger in These Last Days Can Be Meaningful""
* Deadly Themes present: The Administration, brief mention of Social Media against the Church
**Verses**
* [2 Peter 15:10-11](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Peter+1%3A15%2C10-11&version=NKJV)
* [1 John 2:28](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+2%3A28&version=NKJV) *(If this is incorrect, please correct me. I might have written down an incorrect verse.)*
* [1 John 2:5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+2%3A5&version=NKJV)
* [Ephesians 4:24, 22, 23](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+4%3A22-24&version=NKJV) *(For convenience's sake, the link leads to the correct order.)*
* [2 Peter 3:10-11](http://biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Peter+3%3A10-11&version=NKJV)
* [Jeremiah 4:4](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Jeremiah%204:4) *(This one leads to all available translations.)*
* [Acts 2:46](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+2%3A46&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 5:42](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+5%3A42&version=NKJV)
* [Philippians 2:12, 14, 16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2%3A12%2C14%2C16&version=NKJV)
* *Preacher mentions* [*The Message*](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2%3A12%2C14%2C16&version=MSG) *translation after the first reading.*
* [John 9:4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+9%3A4&version=NKJV)
* [Psalms 28:7, 1-2](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+28%3A1-2%2C7&version=NKJV) *(link leads to correct sequential order)*
**Hymns**
* 189: ""We Praise and Worship You""
* includes a lyric about remaining firm in the church
* 318: ""Be Loyal to God Until the End""
* feel-good instrumentals accompany this lecture hymn
* mentions the messenger in the refrain
* 341: ""From the Time That We Have Been Sealed""
* The first half of the hymn revolves around the messenger.
* Starting near the end of the first refrain, the theme shifts to remaining in the faith and the church, with a lyric about duty.
* 284: ""I Will Serve You""
* duty/submission hymn
* [100: ""All My Days, I Will Serve You""](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFCadk9eI0A)
* submission hymn
* 152: ""I Will Never Forget God's Messenger in These Last Days""
* feel-good idolatry tune
* 473: ""His Teachings Should Be Made Completely Manifest in Us""
* feel-good hymn about duty/obedience
* The later stanzas of the hymn negatively portray the outside world, as is typical in cults (even non-INC cults)
**My Comments and Observations**
* The two Acts verses are where your minister/worker will guilt trip you by claiming, ""Back then, they worshiped every day; now, we only have to worship twice a week.""
* Surprisingly, neither of today's Acts verses were 20:28, unless your minister or worker felt like shoehorning it in anyway.
* I'm sure the preacher only mentioned [*The Message*](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2%3A12%2C14%2C16&version=MSG) translation for the ""redouble your efforts"" phrase/former campaign.
* Even back in 2014, something about hymn 341 (and the other messenger hymns) didn't seem quite right with me. ""Would God even accept this type of 'hymn'?"" I thought to myself seven years ago, a thought that only screeches even louder as the days progress.
* For those wondering, the other messenger hymns include (but probably aren't limited to): 89; 152; 201; 234; 244; 268; 278
* Hymns that mention but don't center around the messenger include: 29; 30; 35; 60; 77; 91; 318; 398; 464 (again, might not be an all-inclusive list. Surprisingly, 29; 77; and 91 aren't in this month's lineup.)
* Funnily, both 100 and 284 used to follow the same title of ""I Will Serve You"", as seen in the YouTube video title, before the church published the hard-bound hymnals in 2017.
Happy Mother's Day to all! **ESPECIALLY** to a certain one whose son proved **E**xtremely **V**ain and **M**egalomaniac!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"They also mentioned that the end is near so we must work hard to invite people to the cult, and do not forget your offerings.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"Lol my resident evil minister mentioned the whole ""don't believe in social media"" bullshit today. I smirked hard hahaha. Wonder if anybody noticed me. O well, I don't give 2 shits anymore! Legit don't give a fuck about what they have to say!! I hope you all have a wonderful Mother's day!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"Wow, investing early in messing up children’s brains huh. Can’t win in adult world, so shoving it down impressionable kids’ throats. Absolutely disgusting!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,Thank you so much for all of these and sharing them with us. The length INCULT will go through to brainwashing young minds is beyond reprehensible. My only hope is that these young children will wake up someday and not punish more people into converting this horrible evil organization.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"Wow John 6:29 Jesus is talking about Himself and only Himself. INCult heretics is inserting Felix into the equation. Readers and OWEs if you are still thinking that INCult doctrine is pristine, please wake up and smell the scam.
BTW thanks for this post. There is plenty of data here on the blatant brainwashing that INCult does to their young members.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,Thank you for sharing.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"On your point #10,
1. Where was the far east that was prophesized got fulfilled? -In the Philippines (World History, p. 445)
You cannot use one source to prove their ""far east/Philippines prophesy but they do!!!
How come they did not talk about Felix preaching in 1913 and that he registered his copycat church of Christ one day before World War 1.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,">At least Jesus was mentioned in this lesson but he's not really the most important person now is he?
No Jesus was and never is an important person in INC. For one thing, they downgraded the son of God to a mere man and instead they follow, obey, and worship the grounds that their narcissistic skydaddy walks on.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"The whole book/epistle of Ephesians is just 6 chapters long. It can probably be read conscientiously in about 1-2 hours. The book of Ephesians explains how the Church comes to full spiritual maturity in Christ. The first part describes the Good News of what God has done (Eph. 1-3). The second section gives instructions on how to live in light of those blessings (Eph. 4-5). Ephesians ends with an encouragement to stand firm in the face of any hardships (Eph. 6).
It alone is like an essay of Paul as what the Jesus movement is. NO RELIGIOUS RITUALS.
INCult won’t even read the verses in sequence as how Paul wrote it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,29 is rarely if ever sung anyway.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"I heard that schpiel when I was a wee little lad.
I am now showing salt and pepper hair.
End is near, my ass.
Don't get me started on that ""offering"" bullshit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"They’ve been saying that for well over 100 years. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
This 6 converts crap is not about saving lost souls. It’s about lost monies due to dwindling number of members most especially during the pandemic.
It’s not just INC who suffered because of the pandemic. Many churches here in the United States are barely scraping by and they stand to loose their organizations as well. The majority of people are realizing that what matters most is your family and how fragile life is especially when it comes to income that they’re not just going to shell out their hard earned dollars to some money hungry nut religious organizations. Those gravy trains left a long time ago. Therefore, INC is in a pile of shit and they’re in trouble trying to breath from that stench.
The pandemic (in a strange way) provided members a chance to contemplate and wake up on what INC has been all about.
Their desperation reeks 🤣",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,INC's end is the one that's very near. Why else are they that desperate to get coverts and money from it's members?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"INCult can't hold a candle to JW when it comes to terrorizing the members about the nearness of the end. Also, they not only prohibit eating of blood but also blood transfusions, under penalty of excommunication.
Hmm, I wonder if this means JW is the truer church than INCult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"That’s a good healthy attitude you have, enter in one ear and out to the other ear. I hope you will get to officially stop going to worship service or better stop being a member period.
I hope too for all the mothers here in subreddit that they had a wonderful time this past weekend. As a mom, every day is a special day especially on Mother’s Day and yes, I had an awesome celebration. Just my husband and our two children because we continue to observe social-physical distancing.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"""Don't believe in social media"" does that include INC sanctioned people and websites? So is the church saying that JJV is full of BS?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,It is not Godly for sure!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,"> They’ve been saying that for well over 100 years.
Christianity in general has been saying this for well over 1000 years. It's ridiculous. Of course the end is ""near"". Everything ends.. but near in the cosmic sense is like BILLIONS of years from now.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 08 - May 11, 2021)",n7frtv,2021-05-07,I have this sub to thank for that mindset. 😁 Glad your Mother's day was awesome!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/n7frtv/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_08_may_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 12 - May 14, 2021)",naevwv,2021-05-11,"Cult continues to keep hold of its members by demonizing the world outside INC and telling them not to get influenced with it.
Yup, nothing new.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/naevwv/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_12_may_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 12 - May 14, 2021)",naevwv,2021-05-11,"3rd BS I will be missing due to me refusing to attend place of worship and there is no WebEx.
Edit: Just been give the OWS details !!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/naevwv/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_12_may_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 12 - May 14, 2021)",naevwv,2021-05-11,"**Overview**
* ""What Chosen Servants Should Carefully Watch""
* Deadly Theme mentioned (not centered): The Administration
* The reason I say ""not centered"" is because the lesson revolves more around not succumbing to worldly desires. My preacher mentioned the administration while stating the lesson was outlined by Brother Felix Y. Manalo, the founder of the Iglesia Ni Cristo (hence all the commemorations every May in the sermons and even the hymns).
**Verses Read**
* [Luke 21:34](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Luke+21%3A34)
* [2 Timothy 3:4](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2+Timothy+3%3A4)
* [2 Timothy 3:1-3](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+3%3A1-3&version=NKJV)
* [2 Timothy 3:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Timothy%203:1)
* [2 Timothy 3:2](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Timothy%203:2)
* [2 Timothy 3:3](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Timothy%203:3)
* [1 John 2:16](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1%20John%202:16)
* [Romans 12:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Romans+12%3A1) [and 2](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Romans+12%3A2)
* [1 John 2:15](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1+John+2%3A15)
* [James 4:4](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/James+4%3A4)
* Repeat of 2 Tim. 3:1-3, with a break after verse 1
* [Ecclesiastes 8:15](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Ecclesiastes%208:15)
* [Luke 17:26-30](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+17%3A26-30&version=NKJV)
* [Luke 17:26](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Luke+17:26)
* [Luke 17:27](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Luke+17:27)
* [Luke 17:28](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Luke+17:28)
* [Luke 17:29](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Luke+17:29)
* [Luke 17:30](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Luke+17:30)
For the entries spanning more than two consecutive verses, the main entry links to the NKJV version of the selection; the translation can be changed via the dropdown near the upper right. The link for each individual verse links to all available English translations of the verse.
**Hymns**
* 156: ""Take Me into Your Care""
* 302: ""Everyone, Revere the Lord, Our God""
* lecture hymn masked under a hymn of praise
* coda has the lyric: ""stand firm in our obedience""
* 278: ""God Has a Messenger in These Last Days""
* idolatry hymn
* 85: ""Who Is Prepared?""
* lecture hymn
* 222: ""I Will Not Live in Sinfulness""
* submission hymn
* 234: ""The Servant Whom He Chose""
* idolatry hymn
* 473: ""His Teachings Should Be Made Completely Manifest in Us""
* feel-good hymn about duty/obedience
* The later stanzas of the hymn negatively portray the outside world, as is typical in cults (even non-INC cults)
Hymn 156 is the only hymn where the singer sings to Jesus Christ. The singer never sings to God, but sings about the messenger (twice), as is typical in January (for Brother Eraño G. Manalo's birthday) and May.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/naevwv/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_12_may_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 12 - May 14, 2021)",naevwv,2021-05-11,"The lesson today is:
Sacrifice your wordly pleasures and do some free labour for the church in which the Manalos benefit from for their personal pleasures and ego because God and Jesus says so according to Felix Manalo. Everyone else is evil because they're happy with their lives. INC hates happy.
Merry Manalomas everyone! 🎄",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/naevwv/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_12_may_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"I couldn’t help but smile the entire hymn 57. Talking about our lips only being used for praise and worship. Yet all these OWEs AND ministers of the church out here talking shit on Social Media.
Lol.
Fucking hypocrites.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"**Overview**
* ""The Enticer and the Consequence of Falling Victims to His Enticement""
* *(My personal comments will be written in italics.)*
* For the Seven Deadly Themes, my preacher shoehorned the following:
* The Administration *(ok, this one's a given because it's FYM's birth month, but also mentioned during Jude 1:8 \[see below\])*
* Social Media against the Church *(mentioned as a source of potential temptation/enticement/to-may-to, to-mah-to)*
* Don't Leave INC *(mentioned as what someone under temptation might do)*
* *Disclaimer: These were only mentioned. None were central to the topic itself.*
**Verses Read**
* [Genesis 3:1-5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3%3A4-5&version=NKJV)
* [Revelation 20:2](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Revelation%2020:2)
* [Genesis 3:23](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Genesis%203:23) [and 24](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Genesis%203:24)
* [Genesis 3:6](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Genesis%203:6)
* [Genesis 3:16-19](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3%3A16-19&version=NKJV)
* [Romans 1:28-31](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1%3A28-31&version=NKJV)
* [2 Thessalonians 2:10-12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thessalonians+2%3A10-12&version=NKJV)
* [2 Corinthians 11:14](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2+Corinthians+11:14) [and 15](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2+Corinthians+11:15)
* [2 Corinthians 11:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2+Corinthians+11:13)
* [2 Corinthians 11:3](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2+Corinthians+11:3)
* [Jude 1:4](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Jude+1:4)
* [Jude 1:8](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Jude%208)
* *Preacher takes time to mention those going against the administration*
* [Jude 1:10-13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jude+1%3A10-13&version=NKJV)
* Repeat [Genesis 3:4-5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3%3A4-5&version=NKJV)
* [James 4:7](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/James%204:7)
* *(And yet when you say, ""I am one with God,"" rather than, ""I am one with EVM,"" the administration goes berserk.)*
**Hymns**
* 22: ""Our Fervent Prayers""
* 252: ""Let's Worship and Revere Our Lord God""
* *lecture hymn disguised as a hymn of praise*
* *mentions duty in the refrain*
* 57: ""May Our Lips Be Holy""
* *lecture hymn*
* 32: ""Do You Have Holy Fear?""
* *lecture hymn*
* 214: ""I Don't Want to Be Punished""
* *guilt-tripping hymn*
* 53: ""Our Hearts and Minds, Enlighten""
* *(This one is missing from my personal copy of the hymns, so I just guessed the title.)*
* *submission hymn*
* 473: ""His Teachings Should Be Made Completely Manifest in Us""
* *duty/obedience hymn that instills fear of the outside world*
*This is the only lineup this month not to have any hymns for/about the messenger. Judging by my own comments (nondescript officers' prayer hymn aside), I'd say there proved no need for any messenger/idolatry hymns.*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Its ridiculous the lesson was about keeping away from these so-called enticers as they were all sent by satan. I mean cmon! It stiffles all sort and forms of debates and forces them to close ranks,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"The lesson is so effective in keeping those INC fanatics, fanatical.
I wonder who they're really referring to as the ""Enticer/Satan""?
Apparently, we're the so called ""victims"" of said enticement just because we don't like how the church and their devout members treat and exploit us.
They can't even defend their faith properly and they expect us to believe that they're the true church? True christians?
Happy freakin Manalomas! 🎄🇮🇪🎄🇮🇪
Felix manalo is the last messenger my ass...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"So INCult skipped Jude 1:9
Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”
The members must only remember one self proclaimed angel, Felix Manalo.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"Was sleeping all I know is its an old letter from the founder. Got a good nap though. Ah! I remember the minister told the congregation that we should stay away from sites that attack fuck you manalo(FYM). Not sure if its in the prayer or the lesson, couldn't be bothered to listen.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Sexual Chocolate!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Lol I was thinking the exact same thing. It was saying not to be used to slander nor to judge. Then I'm looking at all the slandering on social media by OWEs.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Exactly.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,That's true. Many church officers are like that. Gossips here and there. Can't trust them. They're red flags.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Thanks ❤️❤️,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"The title of 214 is just so stupid. Another decent hymn that has been totally ruined. Same with 252, was originally Extol and Worship God.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"Enticed by what? A better situation? Autonomy? Freedom from manipulation?
What exactly were we enticed by?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"We have at least 5 angels in iglesia. Ka Felix is the 5th. ""Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Why are you still attending bro?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,I like that band. The one lead by Randy Watson right?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,You’re welcome 😁,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,You’re welcome 😇,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,An answer hymn for 214: Me Too,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Agreed. What was wrong with “With Hope of Mercy Mild”? At least the newer versions of these “hymns” will hopefully serve as a wake-up call to anyone seeking one.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"The Bible has more if you only read it in WHOLE. Felix is definitely not one of them.
Ditch the butchered cut and paste false doctrine of INCult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"So, what did this angel call out in a loud voice say? And what did Felix do with the seal? Is it somewhere on display in INC Central? And since INC believes that Felix is the messenger in these last days because he registered the church in 1914, was Felix able stop any harm to land or sea? Because if that is the case, FYM was a huge failure because 20 million people died in WW1 and there was great destruction. Oooops!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"As much as I don't want to attend. I can't do it because:
1. It will draw too much attention at me(my father is an officer)
2. I drive my mom to church so yeah I can't just skip.
The only time I can skip worship services are during weekday services. I tell them that i had to stay and work for a bit longer and that it is rush hour.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"Bro, I understand. It’s rough when your parents are still heavily contributing to the efforts. It’s a big lie, and I don’t know why they can’t see it.
I moved to Europe from the states 3 years ago and it allowed to really break from it all. My wife and I have been the happiest we have ever been, and it’s because we are not succumbed to the weekly worries of driving 3-4 hours to church (twice a week) and leave the service with so much heartache and disbelief of all the lies. We no longer waste money, we just spend on our kids and the fam.
It’s going to be hard, but man, it’s definitely worth it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,yupp,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,that boy good!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Do you know any angels in our or recent generation?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,The Children are our future is an all time classic 😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Reverend Brown everyone!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"Angels in the Bible are part of the WHOLE story that God is telling through these ancient Jewish writers.
So, it’s best for you to read and know the WHOLE Bible first before quizzing others with a question you just asked.
Most Bibles have a concordance in the back that can tell you all the verses that has the term “angel” in it. Nowadays you can even do a Google search on all the Bible verses that has the term “angel” in them. Then when you look up the verse in your Bible, read at least the whole chapter of that verse to understand the context.
Of course the gold standard is to read the whole book if you choose to be a responsible student of the Bible. Those ancient Jewish writers are awesome.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Is Martin Luther an angel?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"Martin Luther Martin Luther, was a German professor of theology, priest, author, composer, Augustinian monk, and a pivotal figure in the Reformation. His quotes are revered to this day. One of his most notable quotes is his reply to the council during the “Diet of Worms” April 18, 1521.
Since then your sere Majesty and your Lordships seek a simple answer, I will give it in this manner, neither horned nor toothed. Unless I am convinced by the testimony of the Scriptures or by clear reason (for I do not trust either in the pope or in councils alone, since it is well known that they have often erred and contradicted themselves), I am bound by the Scriptures I have quoted and my conscience is captive to the Word of God. I cannot and I will not recant anything, since it is neither safe nor right to go against conscience. May God help me. Amen.""
Martin Luther never ever claimed he is an angel.
Only a false preacher like Felix Manalo proclaimed himself to be an angel. The delusional Felix even butchers Revelations 14:6-9 by imaginary designations to biblical Paul and well respected Martin Luther as angels 1 and 2. Then Felix designated himself as angel 3 in his heretic fairytale world.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Angels are scary lookin,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Good response,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Are you saying there are no angels say from Martin Luther to the present?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Only if they actually look like Felix Manalo. 😉,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Thank you very much.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,There is a TV series called “Angel” from 1999-2004 starring David Boreanaz. How’s that? Not Biblical but has the term “angel”.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Do you think God has left us with no angel to guide whoever he will save? It is a frightening thought.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"It is only frightening if you missed out on what Jesus said in John 14 particularly verse 26 (but do read the whole chapter, better yet the whole book of John)
John 14:26 NIV
26 But the Advocate, the HOLY SPIRIT, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
Then, what Jesus said came to fruition and documented in Acts 1 and 2. Great reading.
Ditch that frightening “angel” trajectory that Felix Manalo and his stable of false preachers have brainwashed you with.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"You are so sadly lost. Felix Manalo was no angel. None of them are. Angels are not needed to guide Christians. The holy spirit is all they need. Felix was a nobody who wanted money and attention. So he made up a bunch of bs and changed it as time went on. He started by borrowing heavily from the Adventists and then made it up as he went along and got called out by his own original followers. Classic con job. You are frightened only because you have never read the Bible instead listening to this contradictory nonsense from the Manalo s. Take some time and in your own read the Bible. There is even a free Bible app you can download to your phone and so compare translations of verses.
Just read the Bible by the chapter not by the verse. Entire chapters. Especially the new testament.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"Let me refer you to this cool dude Paul. He set quite a high bar for true preachers. He has 13 acknowledged epistles in the New Testament, Romans to Philemon. You read all 13 epistles first then recognize for yourself if it is fitting to ask another individual if they have the Holy Spirit.
Just for starters though, here is a passage that Paul wrote to the Corinthians that may initially answer your question.
1 Corinthians 6:19 NIV
Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;
Just read first the Bible then come back here with meaningful questions.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,Do you have the holy spirit in you? How do you know?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"All I can say is that when you truly have the holy spirit in you, you just know.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 15 - May 18, 2021)",ncpem5,2021-05-14,"But as for you, Christ has poured out his Spirit on you. As long as his Spirit remains in you, you do not need anyone to teach you. For his Spirit teaches you about everything, and what he teaches is true, not false. Obey the Spirit's teaching, then, and remain in union with Christ.
1 John 2:27",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ncpem5/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_15_may_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,"It was another repeated topic outlined by FYM. It was a parable of a wedding and they relate it to salvation. In the parable those people who didn’t wear the right kind of clothes were kicked out of the wedding they relate it to the people of this world. The verses were all cherry picked. They keep jumping to different chapters of the bible from chronicles, Mathew, revelations etc. even the minister was struggling to preach the whole thing because it was such a poor attempt to relate a wedding parable to salvation and clothes",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,"**Overview**
* ""The Wedding for Which the King Sent Out Invitations""
* *Just like last time, my personal comments will display italicized. Should a verse lack any commentary from my part, I simply had nothing I thought useful to add.*
* *This lesson was analogous to those whom INC claims will be saved on Judgment Day. Therefore, today's (implicit) Deadly Theme is: Don't Leave INC. Surprisingly, no mention of FYM was made today (at least in my region, unless I wasn't paying attention).*
**Verses Read**
* *Foreword: I have decided to switch my linking to* [*BibleRef.com*](https://bibleref.com) *(unless otherwise stated) because it provides additional commentary with each verse searched on its database. Because of the website's structure, entries spanning multiple verses have separate hyperlinks for each verse. Of course, if anyone can suggest better website for future worship service writeups, I remain open to suggestion, whether through replies to my comments or personal/direct message.*
* *My preacher did not name any translations. However, I did sneak a glance at the preacher's guide to see certain translations.*
* [Matt. 22:1,](https://www.bibleref.com/Matthew/22/Matthew-22-1.html) [22:2](https://www.bibleref.com/Matthew/22/Matthew-22-2.html), [22:3](https://www.bibleref.com/Matthew/22/Matthew-22-3.html) (NIV)
* *preacher draws comparisons to those who refuse to join INC*
* [Rev. 19:7 (NIV)](https://www.bibleref.com/Revelation/19/Revelation-19-7.html)
* *preacher compares the Lamb to Christ*
* [Matt. 22:11](https://www.bibleref.com/Matthew/22/Matthew-22-11.html) [and 12](https://www.bibleref.com/Matthew/22/Matthew-22-12.html)
* *preacher compares the man who did not have a wedding garment to somebody who lacks the requirement to receive salvation*
* [Matt. 22:13](https://www.bibleref.com/Matthew/22/Matthew-22-13.html)
* *preacher claims anyone deemed unworthy of salvation shall be cast away*
* [2 Corinthians 11:2](https://www.bibleref.com/2-Corinthians/11/2-Corinthians-11-2.html)
* *""chaste virgin"" = Christ's body*
* [Matt. 22:11](https://www.bibleref.com/Matthew/22/Matthew-22-11.html) *(repeat)*
* [Matt. 22:12](https://www.bibleref.com/Matthew/22/Matthew-22-12.html) *(repeat)*
* [Rev. 19:9](http://bibleref.com/Revelation/19/Revelation-19-9.html)
* [Eph. 6:11](https://www.bibleref.com/Ephesians/6/Ephesians-6-11.html)
* [Eph. 6:14](https://www.bibleref.com/Ephesians/6/Ephesians-6-14.html), [6:15](https://www.bibleref.com/Ephesians/6/Ephesians-6-15.html), [6:16](https://www.bibleref.com/Ephesians/6/Ephesians-6-16.html), [and 6:17](https://www.bibleref.com/Ephesians/6/Ephesians-6-17.html)
* *These verses detail the armor of God.*
* [Rev. 19:8](https://www.bibleref.com/Revelation/19/Revelation-19-8.html)
* *fine linen = righteous acts*
* [Rev. 3:18](https://www.bibleref.com/Revelation/3/Revelation-3-18.html)
* [Galatians 3:27](https://www.bibleref.com/Galatians/3/Galatians-3-27.html)
**Verses Mentioned but Not Read**
* [Acts 20:28 (Lamsa)](https://www.studylight.org/bible/eng/glt/acts/20-28.html)
* *hyperlink leads to* [*StudyLight.org*](https://www.studylight.org/)*, to which I have linked in previous worship service discussions: for example, the* [*10-13 Apr*](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mnwpg5/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_10_apr_13/gu1u82t?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) *discussion.*
* *translation implied but not explicitly stated*
* [*BibleRef*](https://www.bibleref.com/Acts/20/Acts-20-28.html) *(as of 19 May 2021) contains no commentary on this verse.*
* [*StudyLight.org*](https://studylight.org)*'s available commentary (as of 19 May 2021) centers only on translations reading, ""Church of God,"" as opposed to, ""Church of Christ.""*
* [John 1:29](https://www.bibleref.com/John/1/John-1-29.html)
* *another verse to compare a Lamb to Christ*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,Anong topic? Hindi na ako umaattend eh HAHA,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,"For INCult the Kingdom of heaven/God is the same as the holy city on Judgement day. In Matthew the Kingdom of Heaven/God that Jesus is here or at hand 3:2. Then in His unique style Jesus, sums up the deal with this Kingdom in parable 22:1-14.
Verse 2 Kingdom of heaven is like a king...
King = God
Banquet = salvation, be part of salvation, the good stuff
First invite = Jews that reject Jesus or maybe even goes as far back as OT Jews screwing up relationship with God. Whatever.
Banquet now is open to all - the whole world can now get the good stuff/salvation
Not dressed right-God weeding those that don’t want to behave.
Conclusion - God is the only judge. Party is for everyone. No invite or membership required.
Screw you INCult acting like bouncers who can let in and expel people from the salvation club. Making up stuff that the kingdom is exclusive to the believers of the Manalo fairytale.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,What a bunch of tryhards 😏,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,"The worship services are man inspired thinking. If Jesus went to a worship service and wearing the same clothing worn 2000 years ago even though they were clean, I am positive they would usurer him out of the church.
It is not what you wear, but still being your best clothes you have. It does not matter if the colors of this clothing are also not correct as long as it is presentable to and for God!
Please have a nice day.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,"Actually, I was about to ask if someone can debunk this so called talinhaga that was presented this WS. I doubt that it was the meaning of that parable.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,Just waiting on the official verses if it’s Matthew 22:1-14 or even Luke’s account of the same parable in Luke 14:15-24 from those who still attend and take notes like u/kadpreschoir,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,"To meet the character limitation, I have divided my comment.
**Full Chapters**
*For the sake of context, here's the entirety of:*
* [Revelation 19](https://www.bibleref.com/Revelation/19/Revelation-chapter-19.html)
* [Matthew 22](https://www.bibleref.com/Matthew/22/Matthew-chapter-22.html)
* [Ephesians 6](https://www.bibleref.com/Ephesians/6/Ephesians-chapter-6.html)
*All links lead to NIV by default.*
**Hymns**
* 181: ""Have Mercy on Your Chosen One""
* 305: ""Give Praise to Our Father and His Only Begotten Son""
* *lecture hymn*
* *includes lyrics about obedience and submission*
* 56: ""I Am Saved!""
* [*Instrumental*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpAlrRsLE5I) *(YouTube Video)*
* *includes lyrics about self-denial and duty*
* *This is one of the hymns that was re-written with an entirely new accompaniment sometime around the early 10s. An old copy (dated 2010) of the Tagalog sheet music can be found* [*here*](https://drive.google.com/file/d/12szodn6iKpIRhyHOepWb08S7E_PPbPs3/view) *(Wiki > Hymns of the INC > ""Himnario"" > page 37/237).*
* 216: ""A Change Took Place in My Life""
* [*Instrumental*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mzmAbNbCqw)
* *This hymn attempts to make the worshiper rejoice in his/her membership in the INC.*
* 60: ""Our New Home""
* *The hymn mentions the messenger near the end.*
* 35: ""Hidden in Mystery""
* *Another hymn that mentions the messenger.*
* *The pre-2014 lyrics can be found* [*here*](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/cyx2sp/read_colossians_126_hymn_35_vs_colossians_126/) *(courtesy of* u/Rauffenburg)*, along with a mention of* [*Colossians 1:26*](https://www.bibleref.com/Colossians/1/Colossians-1-26.html) *(""the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, but is now disclosed to the Lord's people"" \[NIV\].).*
* 473: ""His Teachings Should Be Made Completely Manifest in Us""
* *duty/obedience hymn*
*Edit: Added ""Full Chapters"" section, Format*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,"Thanks for all your hard work. This isn’t easy, but this community appreciates you, and your contributions.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,"Congratulations for no longer attending. I too no longer attend.
As for topics, it will be one or more of the same repetitive brainwashing lessons that you can view in our wiki. r/exiglesianicristo redditors have been documenting the 2 x a week brainwashing sessions for about 2 plus years now. It is conclusive that it is the same BS, different days.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,I will debunk it after few days! :) welcome!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,Just waiting on the official verses if it’s Matthew 22:1-14 or even Luke’s account of the same parable in Luke 14:15-24 from those who still attend and take notes like u/kadpreschoir,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,You’re welcome! I am happy to help in spreading awareness of the Church of Manalo! 😄,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,Awesome!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,It's jumping from one book to another. But yeah it was Matthew,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 19 - May 21, 2021)",nfu5lp,2021-05-18,I think you are right since I have marked it already as have been used by INCult before.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nfu5lp/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_19_may_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,"I slept but I got what they were teaching. Obey the assministration. See? You don't need to attend worship services anymore once you attended enough of them.
P.S. I'll rate my nap hmmm 8/10. One of the best naps i had inside the church",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,"They love invalidating your own self worth or ability to make it on your own.
I see people who say that they've prayed for some job and God finally gave it to them. Whether you prayed or not, you would still get a job as long as you were qualified and you applied. Do they think their co-worker had INC's God on their side when they applied and got the job? Absolutely not, it was because they did this on their own.
I never prayed for any of my wealth yet I have more than most.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,"All about obedience again! They say that obeying God (meaning the Administration since they're the said ""instruments of God"") can make you... prosperous somehow?
How does giving more and more offerings make you rich? All I know for sure is that it makes someone else who's not me very rich.
Never have I experienced money rain from the sky upon offering a lot to the church, especially during thanksgiving.
And they gave their usual doomsday spiel again, as always.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,"Obey God (administration) to be prosperous. Oh btw beloved brethren, don’t forget that this weekend is our special 100% participation setting aside for thanksgiving offering and we have another special offering next week 🤗...💰💰💰💰💰💰🤑🤑🤑",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,"**Overview**
* ""The Prosperous Man"": Trust in God, not the wicked.
* The lesson itself contained no noticeable deadly themes. HOWEVER, my preacher decided to shoehorn “Social Media against the Church” at quite a few points in the sermon, especially Proverbs 17:4. *(Is there even one minister/worker who won’t mention that? Or will they be reported to the admin if they don’t mention “Social Media against the Church”?)*
**Verses Read**
* [Proverbs 16:20](https://www.bibleref.com/Proverbs/16/Proverbs-16-20.html)
* [Psalms 34:8](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/34/Psalm-34-8.html)
* [Psalms 34:10](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/34/Psalm-34-10.html)
* [Psalms 37:25](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/37/Psalm-37-25.html)
* *Possibly one of INC's favorite verses, this only demonstrates INC's lack of self-awareness, and obliviousness to the world's conditions.*
* [Psalms 125:1](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/125/Psalm-125-1.html) [and 2](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/125/Psalm-125-2.html)
* [Psalms 37:23](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/37/Psalm-37-23.html) [and 24](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/37/Psalm-37-24.html)
* [Isaiah 30:18](https://www.bibleref.com/Isaiah/30/Isaiah-30-18.html) [and 19](https://www.bibleref.com/Isaiah/30/Isaiah-30-19.html)
* [Jeremiah 17:7](https://www.bibleref.com/Jeremiah/17/Jeremiah-17-7.html) [and 8](https://www.bibleref.com/Jeremiah/17/Jeremiah-17-8.html)
* [Psalms 25:2](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/25/Psalm-25-2.html) [and 3](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/25/Psalm-25-3.html)
* [Proverbs 17:4](https://www.bibleref.com/Proverbs/17/Proverbs-17-4.html)
* [Psalms 1:4](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/1/Psalm-1-4.html) [and 5](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/1/Psalm-1-5.html)
* [Psalms 1:1](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/1/Psalm-1-1.html), [1:2](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/1/Psalm-1-2.html), [1:3](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/1/Psalm-1-3.html)
**Hymns**
* 240: ""I Offer My Thanksgiving""
* 13: ""Oh, We Praise You, Father""
* *distorted hymn of praise*
* 86: ""Each Time I Worship You""
* *submission hymn (even gets somewhat showtune-like at parts)*
* 151: ""Our Father Is So Generous with His Graces""
* *deceiving title, lyrics only support the idea of conditional love within the church:* [*see here*](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m6qksh/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_17_mar_19/grb86nz?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) *(18 March 2021 WS Discussion) for my full comments on this hymn*
* 84: ""I Have Offered My Life""
* *Even before its rewrite in 2014, the hymn was a submission/obedience hymn.*
* *Even after the publication of the hardbound hymnals in 2017, this hymn had lyrical changes earlier this year.*
* *If it's not broken, don't 'fix' it, and if it's already broken...don't make it even worse! But the music dept. will never see it that way, will they?*
* 89: ""The Messenger of God Sent in These Last Days""
* *idolatry showtune*
* 473: ""His Teachings Should Be Made Completely Manifest in Us""
* *duty/obedience hymn/showtune*
EDIT: comma",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,"The term Prosper wasn’t in ANY verse until the very last verse of the lesson.
Our minister decided to close the service out with, “have you ever made a decision and chose righteousness and ever regretted it?”
I wanted to scream on my mic, HELL YEAH!
Any of you make a decision, choosing God or the Church and regretted it later?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,This thread is so funny but informative since I've never been to an INC service and just know things from what my ex-member friends tell me. Thanks everyone!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,The inc cult became prosperous by begging money from its fooled members. Because their cult god won't give them money.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,"they use the ""they're just lucky"" excuse",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,"Hi NPC,
Always a guilt trip if you do not give ENOUGH!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,When minister read Proverbs 17:4 about members not listening to deceitful lips. Did they discuss the internet?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,"Northern Midwest didn't mention social media or the internet, but beware the gossip.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,"After I quit the inc cult, I got my dream job.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,Yes they did! I have amended my write-up accordingly. Thank you! 😁,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,"Mind you, I already stopped going to INCult for awhile now. Their deceptive technique is so predictable.
Truth be told INCult doctrine is actually the “deceitful lips” and “destructive tongue” with all the families they destroyed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 22 - May 25, 2021)",ni99iw,2021-05-21,"Preach‼️ I’m glad you’ve been free! INC’s “doctrine” only becomes more predictable with its repetitive “topics,” and the cult’s misinformation only causes infinitely more harm than good! It’s so busy claiming the OuTsIdErS are deceitful that it hasn’t looked itself in a mirror",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ni99iw/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_22_may_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"EVM should be the first to heed this lesson. He shouldn't renew his evil ways. Hating and putting his brother to jail. Disobeying his parents. Allowing his minions to mock and malign his mom and siblings in social media. Reminds me of that verse about a man hating his brother is akin to a murderer.
Let's not forget how he loves this world. His mega mansion beside the central office. You can google it actually. Or his Airbus and chopper. Or how he needs to stay at 5 star hotels during his visits abroad. And no less than a Mercedes Benz limo sprinter van to bring him around. Oh what about the designer bags, belt a and shoes they shower the favored ministers and wives to buy their loyalty.
In short this lesson is for members only. Not applicable to the hypocrites lording over this cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"Disobeying the Church Administration (INC) is like disobeying GOD. How’s this way of preaching? For me it’s very SCARY, very frightening that I’m lost of words on how members truly believe this preaching. SATAN tried to do the same thing INC has done but SaTAN never succeeded, he only succeeded in drifting people away from Jesus Christ’s gospel and replacing it with a administration of FYM",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"So basically they taught that being outside INC is evil...
While begging its members to please pray this Sunday afternoon to god that he ends the pandemic (because it is hurting their pockets lol)
Please pray for the sick and frontline workers (they'll still go to hell, they aint INC lol)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"Household Worship Service Wednesday/Thursday: May 26/27, 2021
THE PRAYER OF JESUS TO THE FATHER CONCERNING THE CHOSEN ONES
We thank God because, by His mercy, we are members of the Church Of Christ. Many of us came from different religious organizations or faith groups, and, when we were still members of those groups, the Bible categorized us as people of the world. However, when we came to understand the teaching of the Bible that a person needs to be included among those elected or chosen by our Lord Jesus Christ to be a member of His Church for that person’s service to be accepted by God and for him to be saved on Judgment Day, we decided to join the Church Of Christ. And despite the persecutions and hindrances that we have experienced, we strive to keep safe and uphold our sacred election.
Our Lord Jesus Christ is the first One Who wants us to remain as His chosen so we will be worthy to join Him in the kingdom of heaven on Judgment Day. As proof, Christ prayed to the Father to keep His chosen ones from evil, according to John 17:14-15*: I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one.
We are not of this world—that is the quality of the chosen ones. Hence, the instruction to us is this: “Do not love the world or the things in the world” (I John 2:15). Those things that we should not love arethe evils in the world. For that reason, Christ prayed to the Father that He keep us from the evil one. If a chosen one of Christ loves the evils in the world, the Bible says, “The love of the Father is not in him.”
For us to remain the chosen ones of Christ and not lose the love of God, let us not love the evils in the world. Those evils are “the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life,” which are not of the Father but are of the world(I John 2:16). If a chosen one of Christ loves any of these evils in the world, the love of God will not be in him. In James 4:4,the Bible says, “Friendship with the world is enmity with God.” Therefore, to love the evils of the world is to make an enemy of God.
Since we are members of the Church Of Christ, we are included among those redeemed by the blood of Christ and forgiven of our sins. As a result, we were removed from being enemies of God. Now, He recognizes us as His children and reserves for us salvation on Judgment Day.
However, if a member of the Church Of Christ continues to love the world or does not renew his life, he regresses to being an enemy of God and one who is in danger of condemnation on Judgment Day. Hence, we are exhorted by the apostles not to love the world and not to conform to the world so we will be saved.
There are those who fall into violating the teachings of God because they conform to the evil deeds committed by the people of this world. If only we follow the exhortation of the apostles in that we should “not be conformed to this world”(Romans 12:2),then certainly we will be able to avoid committing evil deeds.
We are also exhorted to “be transformed by the renewing of your mind.” The kind of mind thatwe should have is like that of Christ, the Head of the Church. He is humble and obedient to God. Thus, the Executive Minister, Brother Eduardo Manalo, always teaches and reminds us to be obedient to all of God’s commandments, one of which is to uphold the complete and intensive renewal of life.
Obedience to the commandments of God will enable us to prove what is that good and acceptable, and perfect will of God. We will surely experience the good brought about by being obedient.There are people who cannot see the good in obeying the commands of God because they are blinded by the god of this age(II Corinthians 4:4). What the “god of this age” wants is to bring people to destruction or perdition. Thus, he blinds the minds of those who do not have faith so the light of the gospel does not shine on them. Hence, it is terrible for us not to firmly believe in the teachings of God.
We used to be in that condition when we were still of this world or when we were not yet members of the Church Of Christ. But, now that we are members of the Church Of Christ, we areno longer people of this world—our eyes have been opened to the truth and we have been enlightened completely. Thus, it is only right that we follow the advice of the apostles: “Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.” We must not allow that we be blinded again by the god of this age so we will not end up in destruction.
Examples of those who were blinded were Adam and Eve. What happened to them is recorded in Genesis 3:1-7. In the garden of Eden, the Lord God gave a commandment to Adam and Eve to care for them and to safeguard their life. God made it clear that they could eat of every tree of the garden, except for the fruit of the tree that was in the midst of the garden. He also told them that if they would eat the forbidden fruit, they would die.
However, instead of giving importance to what God had said and obeying it, they disobeyed it and listened to the serpent instead. The serpent said to Eve that if she and Adam would eat the forbidden fruit, they would not surely die but would be like God, knowing good and evil.
The serpent deceived Eve. In Genesis 3:6, the Bible says, “So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.”
Because Eve had already been blinded by the god of this age, what was evil became good to her eyes. And so it was for Adam. They both did not give importance to the care and concern that God had accorded them. They disobeyed His command. As a result, they were driven out from the garden of Eden. They suffered hardship. Their life was cursed. From then on, they and the rest of humankind were decreed to die.
Let us not imitate what they did so we will not be condemned. We must know to whom we must listen so we will be directed to what is truly for our good and not be led astray. We must listen to the true God and not to “the god of this age.”
According to John 12:31, 16:11, and 8:44, the “god of this age,” who is also called “the ruler of this world,” is the devil. He will be cast into the lake of fire on Judgment Day along with all of those whom he deceived, according to Revelation 20:10. He is judged or condemned already because of his wickedness. Satan is a liar and the father of liars. According to Christ, there is no truth in the devil and he is a murderer from the beginning. Thus, we must not allow ourselves to be deceived by him so we will not be condemned and destroyed on Judgment Day. Let us give utmost importance to our membership in the Church Of Christ.
Let us uphold our activeness in serving God and in leading a righteous way of life despite the evils that are rampant in this world. Let us always obey the will of God that the Church Administration teaches. Let us keep safe our being the chosen ones of our Lord Jesus Christ and bravely fight for it against anyone or anything that aims to ruin it. Let us ask God for help so we will be able to triumph over the evils here in this world, which will ensure our receiving of salvation and eternal life when our Lord Jesus Christ returns.
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED BY BROTHERFELIX MANALO
WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY: MAY 26/27, 2021",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"**Overview**
* Topic: ""The Prayer of Jesus to the Father Concerning the Chosen""
* The verses themselves presented no deadly theme. However, my preacher mentioned the following:
* Offerings
* The Administration *(partially because the lesson was outlined by FYM, also hymn 244, also also his opening prayer extensively idolized FYM)*
* Don't Leave the INC *(not helping is hymn 253)*
* Social Media against the Church
* *(Hmmm...doesn't the Bible say a thing or two about the dangers of adding to and/or subtracting from it? Are these ministers and workers pressured to reach a certain word count or sermon length?)*
**Verses Read**
* [John 17:14](https://www.bibleref.com/John/17/John-17-14.html) [and 15](https://www.bibleref.com/John/17/John-17-15.html)
* [1 John 2:15](https://www.bibleref.com/1-John/2/1-John-2-15.html)
* [1 John 2:16](https://www.bibleref.com/1-John/2/1-John-2-16.html)
* [James 4:4](https://www.bibleref.com/James/4/James-4-4.html)
* [Romans 12:2](https://www.bibleref.com/Romans/12/Romans-12-2.html)
* [2 Corinthians 4:4](https://www.bibleref.com/2-Corinthians/4/2-Corinthians-4-4.html)
* [Genesis 3:1-7](https://www.bibleref.com/Genesis/3/Genesis-chapter-3.html) *(link leads to full chapter)*
* *(Did anyone else's minister/worker quip that clichéd ""AdAm AnD sTeVe"" when discussing this selection? Of course they never have or will understand the truth behind homosexuality...\[except MAYBE a closeted apostate minister/worker...maybe\])*
* [John 12:31](https://www.bibleref.com/John/12/John-12-31.html)
* [John 16:11](https://www.bibleref.com/John/16/John-16-11.html)
* [John 8:44](https://www.bibleref.com/John/8/John-8-44.html)
**Hymns**
* 52: ""Lord Jesus Christ, Please Help Me""
* 312: ""We Praise You, Father, Most Divine""
* includes a lyric where the singer praises his/her remaining in the church
* 19: ""Our Lord Jesus, Always Be with Us""
* 93: ""Repent for Your Sins""
* lecture hymn intended to guilt-trip the worshiper
* 244: ""I Call to Mind the Messenger""
* *(Is this month almost done yet, so we can hopefully get a break from the idolatry hymns? There's still the weekend WS? Come on...)*
* 253: ""Remain inside the Lord's Church""
* *(How subtle...)*
* 473: ""His Teachings Should Be Made Completely Manifest in Us""
* duty/obedience hymn
**Other Observations**
* Preacher claims a person's occupation or education could be a source of temptation or deceit. Now if only he would realize the truth about his ""occupation"" and ""education"" (read: brainwashing)…
* Wow, not even the HWS text (Thank you u/anggelwinsantos!!) contains translations for the verses. I guess our only hope now is sneaking a look at the minister or worker's teacher guide.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"Look at how they avoid to emphasize ""..i do not pray that you should take them out of the world,.."" in john 17:14-15. It is because they do this and even make it part of their prayers.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"Today’s Worshiping Service
The minister’s mention Jesus Christ’s Gospel but never really explain the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The New Testament starts with the Gospel of Jesus Christ my friends. Please read the New Testament and analyze The Birth, The Miracles, The Persecution, The Crucification, The Resurrection, and most of all The Love of Jesus Christ. They lectured of being “BLINDED”, the fact that the ministry doesn’t know nor preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ,......so who really is the BLINDED ones?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"Slept again if I used my subconscious hearing, I can hear that the minister is telling the worshit service that we should obey the church and he also said stuff that a cultist should never do.
During the WS ending reminders, he asked the locale to pray on May 30(iirc) for the world's healing that no one should never be infected from covid-19 and to all the health workers and elected government officials to do their job well. Like wow, I was amazed that EVM would even care for the ""sanlibutan"". This style of prayer was discouraged because it was too worldly and prayers should be directed to the well being of EVM's ass and shitty family instead.
EDIT: May 13 changed into May 30, coinciding with that interfaith prayer that du30 wants.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,at lahat ng yan at galing sa mga mahihirap na kapatid,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"Imagine Jesus Christ putting any members of his family through any hardship just to show that he has the power to. Sooooo......unchristian like behavior and more of a Devilish desire!!! I can’t imagine how EVM’s heart can be like that, even with Gods Love he totally turns his back on Jesus Christ’s gospel......but the really frightening thing is, is that the INC members feels it’s ok that EVM puts the INC church first before his family especially his own Mother. BRAINWASHED at it’s finest",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"Hi Mr. John,
I would be disobeying their manmade doctrines all the time for these instructions they give are not from God, but from the Devil!
Yours Truly
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,disobeying the one who disobey the teachings is OK .. tapos sabihin nila sayo natisod ka ..the FCK is that exception? nakapa gago,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,I agree when all they truly care about is the loss of their revenue. I'm a Frontline worker (RN) and stuff like this just make me so furious.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,what a load of bs,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"Thanks for posting this.
Felix Manalo directly continuing the brainwashing from his grave.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"Thanks for the post and your tireless effort in sharing INCult brainwashing sessions disguised as worship services. These data/documentation is great for dissecting INCult false doctrine.
To me, of the the 4 gospel books of Jesus (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John), the book of John is the most poignant in retelling the life of Jesus.
So the last 3 verses that INCult chose to cherry pick is about the devil in the book of John. Wow.
Disclosure: the book of JOHN is my favorite and is pivotal in my enlightenment.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,Thank you for sharing and posting. You do such an awesome job. 👍💐,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,Imagine that...education could be a source of temptation or deceit. Ummm...yeah...they don't want intelligent people being able to read the bible and realizing they are being lied to.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,ammmaaaaa puksain mo sila,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,very well said... they rarely teach of jesus' gospel,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,">During the WS ending reminders, he asked the locale to pray on May 13(iirc) for the world's healing that no one should never be infected from covid-19 and to all the health workers and elected government officials to do their job well.
That's hypocritical of them to pray that no one should get infected from Covid-19 since they're the super spreaders.
They never cared about the world in general, much less towards their members. As for their great leader EVM, where was he when the shelter in place first took place last March 2020? He was not heard nor seen for months. For all intents and purposes, he was probably hiding in his basement shaking in fear of getting the Covid-19 infection. And yet he had no qualms ordering the members to continue with church activities and mandating this ridiculous 6 converts per family.
Hmmm, so now they're praying about Covid-19? I wonder why the sudden about face? My guess is that it's not about people but it's about the loss of revenue ($).
They're so pathetic, pretending to care about people when what they're really worried about is money and how much this pandemic has caused them.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,Just to throw this out there.....I can truly and honestly say that there are members in the INC that have a heart and are loving and kind. But the routine that the INC’s preaching and cultish ways lead them to be lost and brainwashed the fact that they don’t preach nor know the gospel of Jesus Christ.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,EVM wants them to pray for a god he does not believe in for the covid to end so he can jump back on that airbus and take some 5 star luxury holidays again.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"Thank you for your statement. Yes there are members that are loving. But more and more members are being brainwashed to hate if you are not an INC which is just crazy! They do not teach the words of God!
Young
Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"And that’s the VERY, VERY, SAD part of this Church. Once you step unto their premises you are already judged and controlled. Your looked and judged upon how your appearance is. Then your controlled on where you sit, and how to respond. The controlling part goes so far that you must check in for attendance and the most horrific MONITORING of your offering. The Special Offering’s they make-up tops it off! For they use Gods name for the money Business guilt tripping membership. When the ministers say “when you don’t listen to the Administration it’s like your not listening to God”, I really pray extra hard and to let Jesus Christ know that these people/members are really misguided so please help him to find your Gospel. That’s the prayer I pray 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"Hi John,
Thank you for agreeing with me on this subject!
Yours Truly
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"If you have free time, please read John 14 and Romans 8 in the Holy Bible. As you can see these verses is my screen name. There’s a lot more support scriptures in the Bible that the INC doesn’t preach. So keep reading the Bible",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 26 - May 28, 2021)",nl6ssu,2021-05-25,"Hi John,
I will read your suggestions and thank you!
Have a great night.
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nl6ssu/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_26_may_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,"One of the most cultish lesson that I had to read and listen to. It promotes blind obedience and downplays education and morality.
Listen only to the Church admin's bible interpretation? They can't even properly defend their own interpretation.
I felt like my soul got tainted and I needed a shower after reading that lesson out loud.
Glad we managed to find a workaround to avoid f2f WS otherwise, I would have had to endure about 1hr of that same BS instead of just 10 mins.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,"Another brainwashing session.. ahh, tldr, inc = right; outside inc = wrong.
Let me quote one of the passages that stood me out. Translate it for me please.
""Kaya, ang pamantayan sa kung ano ang tama at makatarungan ay hindi dapat isalig sa natamong edukasyon o sa anumang pamantayan sa mundo. Ang mga tunay na lingkod ng Diyos ay hindi dapat maging matuwid sa sarili (self-righteous), ni itaguyod man ang ideya ng iba tungkol sa katarungang panlipunan (social justice) o sa interpretasyon nila sa talata ng biblia. Bagkus, pagyamanin natin ang tunay na kaalaman o pagkakilala kay Cristo na tinanggap natin sa pamamagitan ng pagtuturo ng pamahahala.""
The fuck? TLDR: just listen to the assministration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,"Todays preaching is so twisted. The fact that the Church Administration and Administrator is Felix Manalo, Eranyo, and Edwardo Manalo is focused instead of Jesus Christ. They say Jesus’s name and not his gospel, focusing on membership, and being taught by Felix Manalos misleading gospel. Brainwashed members are lead to believe the Church and the 107 years is Gods promised scripture. Blind, Leading the Blind preaching that one executive Minister that they BOAST and don’t even know it. They boast about their true Churches around the world, but cannot boast about Jesus Christ’s gospel. They say renew your mind and yes the members do renew their mind to the Gospel of Felix and his Administration through INC, and not renewing their mind, body and soul to Jesus Christ’s gospel. The INC Focusing on their messenger FYM as always the members don’t even see that they are in a brainwashed service. Very scary when they said the name Eduardo means “Guardian”, Such false preaching and a true man made gospel once again as they misinterpreted the Bible.Hopefully one day the INC members will see the light and know the Gospel of Jesus Christ and not the Church Administration and Administrators",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,Shout out to u/KadPresChoirSecTSV. I hope everything is OK. Just missing your regular post. No pressure. We all need a break. 🙂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,"Prophetic prosecution 🙄, the connect the dots adventure of the Manalo “the ends of the earth” time prophecy😒, and then the last half hour, blind obedience to the administration 🤐 Of course they can’t go about preaching the adminstration without mentioning offering and bearing fruit💵😱
A very egregious brainwashing session today, I really felt mentally violated and drained after it was over 😵💫",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,"I’m starting to have more of a hard time not rolling my eyes or sighing loudly out of frustration. The constant “life is getting worse” and “life is so hard” rhetoric is getting really old. Life is actually beautiful, if we focused on that, I think more members would be happy.
Ugh. Thursday needs to take it’s time getting here. These WS are starting to get painful.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,"Our minister just indirectly mentioned Eli Soriano lol
He was tackling the part where God will help those who go against the messenger thru killing them...
Then mentions a someone who went against felix, erano and eduardo manalo... but now where he is, he is dead. He didn't even get the chance to go back to the country because our muslim countrymen will kill him.... So much for being a church teaching love uhhh",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,"**Overview**
* ""Why the Church of Christ Is Not Like Any Other Organization or Movement in the World Today""
* Deadly Theme: Other Religions Are Wrong
* Others Mentioned, but Not Central to the Lesson: The Administration, Intensive Propagation
**Verses**
* [Acts 5:33-35, 38-39](https://www.bibleref.com/Acts/5/Acts-chapter-5.html)
* [Acts 5:23-24](https://www.bibleref.com/Acts/5/Acts-chapter-5.html)
* [Acts 8:1-5](https://www.bibleref.com/Acts/8/Acts-chapter-8.html)
* [Isaiah 41:9, 13-17](https://www.bibleref.com/Isaiah/41/Isaiah-chapter-41.html)
* [Colossians 1:25](https://www.bibleref.com/Colossians/1/Colossians-1-25.html)
* [2 Peter 1:19, 10-11](https://www.bibleref.com/2-Peter/1/2-Peter-chapter-1.html)
* Verse 10 mentions, ""confirm your calling and election."" If this isn't the reason so many hymns are about one's calling and election in the church, I don't know what is.
* [Hebrews 10:36](https://www.bibleref.com/Hebrews/10/Hebrews-10-36.html)
* [Philippians 3:4-9](https://www.bibleref.com/Philippians/3/Philippians-chapter-3.html)
* [Romans 12:1-2](https://www.bibleref.com/Romans/12/Romans-chapter-12.html)
* [1 John 2:14-17](https://www.bibleref.com/1-John/2/1-John-chapter-2.html)
* [Jude 1:23](https://www.bibleref.com/Jude/1/Jude-1-23.html)
* Intensive propagation verse
* [Psalms 119:9-11, 17, 22](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/119/Psalms-chapter-119.html)
* For the entries that consist of a single verse, the link leads directly to that verse on [BibleRef.com](https://BibleRef.com). For the entries listing multiple verses, the link leads to the full chapter.
**Hymns (Warning: Tangents Incoming)**
* 200: ""I Offer My Thanksgiving to You""
* 325: ""Constantly, Give Him Our Joyful Praise""
* This showtune sounds like 3 different showtunes spliced together. (You might remember this from last year's year-end thanksgiving, or you might not if, like me, you'd rather forget it ever existed.)
* 401: ""The Last Work of Salvation""
* verses mention the messenger
* Refrains revolve around keeping the faith, remaining in the church, yadda yadda
* Scouring through my old comments, I see this ""hymn"" was last sung in [early October](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/j3obta/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/g7peatl?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) last year (surprisingly not during a PPV), unsurprisingly in honor of EVM's birth month.
* 503: ""Because You Have Decided to Love Me""
* This attempt at an emotional hymn only comes across as an attempt to keep the brainwashed brethren brainwashed and make them feel ashamed of themselves. (Of course, by this point, most ""hymns"" in the hymnal are like this.)
* 429: ""I Will Follow Your Commandment, Counsel, and Instruction""
* how subtle...not...
* It's almost like Lord Manalo himself wrote this hymn (and 401)...
* If I remember correctly, this was released in Dec. 2016, and it shows.
* Even though I'm sure I'm breaking some copyright rule, allow me to type out the entirety of verse 2 (not that the rest of the ""hymn"" is any better...):
* *I have many needs in my life*
*I, in faith, want to request,*
*But, above all, Lord, I beg You*
*Make me most obedient.*
*For what benefit would I have*
*If the whole world I should gain,*
*But the gift of my salvation*
*I'd relinquished in exchange?*
* Need I say more?
* 398: ""Hold onto the Words of ~~Lord Manalo~~ God""
* Once again searching through old WS notes, I see this was last sung not too long ago—more specifically, during the [February PPV](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/gm90zh1?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) earlier this year.
* This ""hymn"" includes the lyric ""always obey.""
* Not only that, but it also name-drops both the Messenger and Administration (yes, both capitalized)! Obedience meets idolatry...if EVM himself didn't write this hymn, I don't know who did...
* [I Am a Member of the Church of Christ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jtvxZ_fay8)
* To paraphrase slightly what I said [last month](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mxbc1l/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_24_apr_27/gvpwock?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), this is THE submission hymn to end all submission hymns, as it has the singer rejoice in his or her calling at the last weekend of every month (unless there's a concurring PPV, as has happened quite a few times the previous year).
* 473: ""His Teachings Should Be Made Completely Manifest in Us""
* duty/obedience hymn
* Tired of this ""hymn""? I have good news and bad news:
* Good news: All the WSes this month are finally over, so maybe this will be the last time it will ever be sung.
* Bad news: All this does is make potential room for worse recessional hymns, such as the infamous 349(?) (""There Is No Middle Ground—We Must Choose!"") that mentions the church administration; or 481 (""We Must Never Part""), which—surprise!—tells the worshiper never to leave the church.
Now that the month of May has basically elapsed, hopefully we will get a break from idolatry hymns. I do have the June lineups; stay tuned for those. Unless I'm missing something, the month of June doesn't seem to have any messenger hymns (at least for the AWS lineup), and aside from some higher-numbered hymns here and there, most of the numbers seem to be the regulars (Don't worry too much, however, as 50 and 154 aren't there. :D). My knowledge of the CWS hymns is very limited, so I can't promise the same thing.
To anyone that made it this far, I apologize for the delay. I just had a mixture of a change in my regular schedule and poor time management on my part. Apart from still being in the church because of my parents, all is well here :)
For those who celebrate, Happy Memorial Day! Let us take a moment to remember those who died for our freedoms. \*salute\*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,"Very sickening preaching that the INC would say that Eduardo means “Guardian”, the made up philosophy once again this INC Church will do to mislead and Brainwash their members of thinking this man Ed is some type of savior. The only thing he is saving is the members money for his gain of his Church’s legacies. In Jesus Christ his name “Emanuel” means “God with us” in the New Testament in Mathew that is in the Holy Bible. The INC’s preaching of “Ed” meaning Guardian is very sickening and FALSE. The gospel of Jesus Christ is the only prof that that he is the most TRUE messenger of God. I hope and pray that the INC members see the light and the truth of Jesus Christ. I hope and pray that the INC members see that the INC is a CULT and their preaching is all a lie!!! Lastly I hope and pray that the INC members can realize that the words that the INC preaches are very misleading and a total business minded organization/administration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,Ano po lesson title?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,"Not only are they bashing religions, they are now bashing the Christian religions. Or was it just my annoying OWE.
BTW. First in person visit to the holy place in over a year. On the plus side they were very COVID secure. Face Masks / Shields. Hand sanitizer. Temperature monitoring. Social distance. Contact tracing.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,Good thing there is sub like this to cleanse our minds lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,"Google translate-
Thus, the standard of what is right and just should not be based on acquired education or on any worldly standard. True servants of God should not be self-righteous, nor promote self-righteousness. others' ideas about social justice or their interpretation of a biblical verse. Instead, let us cultivate the true knowledge of Christ that we have received through the teaching of the administration
The fuck? TLDR: just listen to the administration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,parang sinabi na wag mo gamitin utak mo at logic mo kase kami lang mga ministro ang magsasabi kung ano dapat mo paniwalaan.. walang Mali sa sasabihin namin.. tangina nio mga gagong MK ministrong kupal,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,That is how the inc cult poison the fooled members mind to gain total control and manipulation to the members lives. This Manalo ministers teachings is like cancer ruining peoples lives.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,Yet they rely on educated people outside their organization to promote their narrative! What a joke!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,"Sabi nga nung isang rapper sa fliptop (smugglaz)
""kung ginagamit ka ba ng Diyos (inc) o ikaw yung gumagamit sa kaniya""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,Thank you for the shoutout! I am doing well as of right now :),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,It is indeed mentally exhausting. I can't keep my eyes from rolling.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,They always say the world is getting worse but its a lot better than 1000 years ago. For most of human history life expectancy was only about 30 years.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,"But wait, there's more!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,Sounds like living in North Korea. And then everyone cries over the great leader too.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,"So much for one true ""church"" 🤢",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,same,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,Kung Bakit ang Iglesia ay hindi katulad ng alinmang organisasyon o kilusan sa mundo,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,Agreed!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,"That basically equates to... shut up JV and others, and stay off reddit. You are not authorised to interprete biblical verses.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,Mapapamura ka na nga lang talaga.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 29 - Jun 01, 2021)",nne1fx,2021-05-28,Walang Katulad kaya sila ang Biggest Cult in the Philippines per Google search. At least INCult got the title right.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nne1fx/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_29_jun_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,"OUR CITIZENSHIP AS MEMBERS OF THE TRUE CHURCH OF CHRIST IS FAR GREATER THAN ANY CITIZENSHIP HERE ON EARTH
Life in this world is full of problems and many people suffer great poverty and misfortunes. The current pandemic that has been plaguing the world is truly serious and terrifying. Strong earthquakes, typhoons, floods, wildfires, and other natural disasters are also constantly ravaging various parts of the world.
We firmly believe that all those things are signs that Judgment Day is very near. That’s why the Church Administration unceasingly reminds us to always be ready and alert for the return of our Lord Jesus Christ. On that day, He will save us from punishment, grant us eternal life, and bring us with Him to the Holy City.
We are sure that those blessings are reserved forus because we are among those who will be saved. InJohn 10:9 (REB),the Lord Jesus Christ said that “anyone who comes into the fold ... will be safe.” Anyone—regardless of his or her race, citizenship, or nationality“ will be safe” as long as he or she obeys Christ’s command to enter or come into “the fold.” That fold or flock is the Church Of Christ (Acts 20:28 Lamsa).
Membership in Church Of Christ is not only for people of a particular race, nationality, or citizenship. In fact, the first to be called to become members o fthe Church were not only the Jews but also the Gentiles (Romans 9:24 NKJV). The first members of the first-century Church Of Christ were Jews. But during the administration of the apostles, the preaching of the gospel reached non-Jewish nations, and many Gentiles or non-Jews became Church Of Christ members.
Such expansion was also experienced bythe Church Of Christin these last days, of which we are members. The Church today has local congregations in 158 countries and territories around the world, its members representing more than 147 races and ethnicities.
Even if we come from different races, we are all one in Christ. (Galatians 3:26-28 NCV). That is the quality of the true Church Of Christ. It doesn't matter what race or nationality each of us belongs to. There is no difference among Africans, Americans, Asians, Europeans, and so on, because we are all one in Christ.
Thus, we should not get involved in disputes and quarrels concerning differences in race, gender, or nationality to preserve the unity of the Church. Regardless of what country or nation the local congregations or group worship services are geographically located, we should maintain unity of faith and spirit. Let there be no division among us. Let us treat one another as equals because our Lord Jesus Christ said in Matthew 23:8: ""You are all brethren."" That’s why we greet one another as brothers and sisters.
We are all brothers and sisters because we are “members of God’s household” and “fellow citizens with God’s people” (Ephesians 2:19NIVand 12-13 GNB). We, members of the Church Of Christ, are sure of that because although we “used to be far away” from God, we have been “brought near by the blood of Christ"" through our“ union with Christ Jesus.” The Church Of Christ is the one redeemed by Christ’s blood and is in union with Him because it is His body and He is its head.
Hence, regardless of our race or cultural background, as members of the Church Of Christ, “our citizenship is in heaven” (Philippians 3:20 AMP2015). Brethren might move to another country where they hope to have a secure future for themselves and their family, eventually becoming citizens there. However, we should never lose or even jeopardize our citizenship in heaven, which we came to have because of our membership in the Church Of Christ. Citizenship in heaven far exceeds whatever citizenship or status in any country here in this world could ever offer.
A different kind of life awaits us in our true home where our true citizenship is. Here on earth, no country is spared from poverty, inequality, violence, sickness, chaos, and other social ills. But in our true home, in the new heavens and new earth that God is creating, all of those things will be forgotten(Isaiah 65: 17-19 MSG).
So, it is incumbent upon us to hold on firmly to our sacred calling no matter what we experience in this life. Our citizenship as Church Of Christ members is greater than any citizenship here on earth because it will bring us great blessings that we can never find here on earth—salvation on Judgment Day and eternal life.
The Church Administration reminds us of the qualities that we must not only possess but also nurture while we are still sojourning in this world. According to Colossians 3:12-14 (AMP):
Clothe yourselves therefore, as God's own chosen ones (His own picked representatives), [who are] purified and holy and well-beloved [by God Himself, by putting on behavior marked by] tenderhearted pity and mercy, kind feeling, a lowly opinion of yourselves, gentle ways, [and] patience [which is tireless and long-suffering, and has the power to endure whatever comes, with good temper]. Be gentle and for bearing with one another and, if one has a difference (a grievance or complaint) against another, readily pardoning each other; even as the Lord has [freely] forgiven you, so must you also [forgive]. And above all these [put on] love and enfold yourselves with the bond of perfectness [which binds everything together completely in ideal harmony].
We should not consider ourselves better than anyone else because of our cultural heritage, race, or nationality. Rather, the Bible teaches us to put on a behavior marked by“ a lowly opinion of yourselves” and “gentle ways,” especially in dealing with our brothers and sisters in the Church. Let us have tender hearted pity and mercy toward our fellow men who are not yet members of the Church. Thus, in spite of what is currently happening in the world, the Church Administration encourages us to continue inviting people from whatever race and nationality to attend our evangelical missions—whether online or in-person—and to watch our religious programs on incmedia.org and iglesianicristo.net, and on our official social media accounts so they can listen to the true gospel. The “Aid To Humanity” and “INC-Giving” projects launched by the Church Administration are effective means to help many individuals and communities fight hunger and poverty. Let us strive to be actively involved in these endeavors.
If ever grievances or misunderstandings arise among Church members, the Bible teaches us to readily pardon or forgive one another. Above all else, let us “put on love and enfold ourselves with the bond of perfectness.” In that way, the “ideal harmony” or perfect Christian unity will be preserved. Mutual respect, compassion, and love will reign in our midst. Indeed, such values are firmly established in the true Church Of Christ.
The many problems that plague society will even intensify and continue until Judgment Day. Hence, in our prayers to God, let us ask Him to listen closely and hear our cry, to help and comfort us whenever troubles come, and to look down on us with pity and grant us the strength we need (Psalm 86: 6-7 and 16-17 TLB).
Whatever hardships we experience in life, we should always remember that our citizenship is in heaven—in the Holy City, our true home. There, righteousness and true peace reign. There, a glorious life awaits us. May that be our inspiration and hope as we journey through this world until we complete our race.
HOUSEHOLD WORSHIP SERVICE
BASED ON THE LESSON OUTLINED
BY BROTHER DONALD H. PINNOCK
WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY: JUNE 2/3,2021",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,"Slept through the whoreshit service. TLDR: Your ""citizenship"" in the holy city is verrrry important.
I'd rate my sleep 6/10, woke up a couple of times. I feel groggy after the service.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,hahaha here we go again that our citizenship is in heaven. delusional inc cult. once and for all inc is a cult/business not a religion. definitely they are not the one to be saved on judgement day. they loved to claim everything duhh.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,that is 00.000.05 percent of inc that will be save come judgement day .out of 9.5 billion people .. delusional sick fcks.!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,"**Overview**
* Our Citizenship as Members of the True Church of Christ is Far Greater than Any Citizenship Here on Earth""
* Deadly Theme: Don't Leave INC
**Verses Read**
* [John 10:9 (REB)](https://www.studylight.org/bible/eng/reb/john/10-9.html)
* [Acts 20:28 (Lamsa)](https://www.studylight.org/bible/eng/glt/acts/20-28.html)
* [Romans 9:24 (NKJV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%209%3A24&version=NKJV)
* *(Here my preacher cites an entry from the* Miriam Webster Dictionary *to define a Gentile.)*
* [Galatians 3:26-28 (New Century Version)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians%203:26-28&version=NCV)
* [Matthew 23:8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+23%3A8&version=NKJV) *(translation not named; link leads to NKJV)*
* [Ephesians 2:19 (NIV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2%3A19&version=NIV)
* [Ephesians 2:12-13 (GNB)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2%3A12-13&version=GNT)
* [Philippians 3:20 (Amplified 2015)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians%203%3A20&version=AMP)
* [Hebrews 12:22-24](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+12%3A22-24&version=NKJV) *(mentioned only; translation not named; link leads to NKJV)*
* [Isaiah 65:17-19 (The Message)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+65%3A17-19&version=MSG) *(link leads to verses 17-25)*
* [Colossians 3:12-14 (AMP)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+3%3A12-14&version=AMP)
* [Psalms 86:6-7, 16-17 (The Living Bible)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+86%3A6-7%2C16-17&version=TLB)
**Hymns**
* 211: ""Father, We Thank You So Much""
* refrain mentions a worshiper's calling into the church
* [319: ""Until the End, We Will Worship and Serve You, Father""](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkVuHYtJ1Xs)
* 94: ""The Kingdom, So Glorious and Blessed""
* This hymn of praise praises the church more than it praises its deity.
* 142: ""My Name Is Written""
* Trivia: This hymn was rewritten with an entirely new composition around the mid-2010s.
* 111: ""I Am Just a Pilgrim Here""
* Trivia: Around 2013, not only were the lyrics rewritten, but the rhythm was also altered for reasons unknown.
* 233: ""Listen and Receive""
* Submission hymn that includes lyrics about not doubting.
* The would-be offertory this month is 213: ""Dutiful Offering"". Self-explanatory title aside, this hymn includes lyrics about helping the church (and therefore its misinformation) spread, and tells the worshiper never to stop giving.
* 265: ""Uphold His Light""
* Lecture hymn/showtune that includes lyrics about not doubting and not forgetting to worship.
**Personal Commentary**
* Shoutout to u/anggelwinsantos for posting the HWS text and available verse translations!
* [John 10:9 (REB)](https://www.studylight.org/bible/eng/reb/john/10-9.html), predictably, was not read in its entirety. The last part of the verse was taught maybe once, back in 2018.
* [Matthew 23:8 (NKJV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+23%3A8&version=NKJV): ""But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren."" If this is true, why don't ministers object to being called, ""po,"" etc.? Moreover, does EVM object to being called, ""po,"" ""sir,"" etc.? If he doesn't, I wouldn't be surprised.
* The last time my preacher attempted to demonstrate how widespread the church is, he mentioned 160 countries/territories. Was he rounding? The HWS text puts the figure in question at only 158. If both figures are true, what happened to the remaining 2 countries and territories \*thinking emoji\*?
* Moreover, apparently 147 ethnicities compose the church's census. The obvious one aside, what is the approximate breakdown of the remaining 146 ethnicities? Oh wait, the super secretive admin will never release an exact count of its following, much less a breakdown by ethnicity.
EDIT: Removed duplicate note",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,What happens if the Holy City is destroyed due to war because it could well happen in the next few days !!!!?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,"They're just trying to echo the Noah flood myth where there are billions of people but only one dude (and his family ofc) was ""righteous"" enough and all the rest were ""wicked"" and so had to be drowned and eaten by fish. Which is funny because it's a borrowed premise from Utnapishtim's story (that was written way earlier) but made childish by turning a nuanced myth of humanity's (represented by Gilgamesh) love-hate relationship with mortality into a fable of hero = pure good vs. rest of the world = pure evil with no middle ground. I bet INC loves that dichotomy... :P
Also, the Sumerians and the Akkadians' polytheism actually reflects the reality of the universe where many equal forces / centers of power form a whole, as opposed to Hebraic monotheism which assumes just one absolute force (but also riddled with flaws and caprice if you actually think about the implications of the text, especially the events in genesis) resting on an assumed apex. In a way, it is was makes monotheism more accessible, it's simpler and more basic. Kind of like having just one big superhero instead of a team with different personalities that play off each other, even though the team option is more sophisticated and reflects reality better.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,"Thanks for the heads up! Now on to my thoughts about this lesson:
Of course they'll say that the world is hell again! Doomsday cult be like, ""Judgement day this, Judgement day that!""
Society isn't as bad as INC says, being INC isn't as great as INC says either, in fact, it's the reason why I have anxiety attacks all the time! It's all guilt tripping, Manalo ass kissing and a lot of fear mongering shit!
Aid to humanity? INC giving? So far, it's only been INC taking for me! My money, my time and my sanity!
Being INC is never far greater than being any citizen. It's just as good as being a North Korean citizen.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,"Interesting considering a lot of INC youth seem to be on board with BLM and have their support of it written all over their social media.
Thanks for posting!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,"What a crock of shit. I knew INC members in Hawaii who would regularly make fun of Micronesians. Being a Micronesian myself, It was pretty pathetic to see good christians make fun of my people when they had the chance.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,"Hi /u/anggelwinsantos,
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,"**Hi Santos,**
Your faith has hailed you for your belief that World War 1 started on July 27th and even Your Joe Ventilasion has acknowledged that it was NOT that day. Please look at his article Joe wrote in 2014 about that First World War and saying **fighting started on July 28th! Even the Emperor of Austria back then Mr. Hanz Joseph said that declaration of war document was ""erronious"" or fake for NO Serbian troops attacked that day but on the 28th of that MONTH!!!**
**All that rhetoric you said above and now finding it is all FALSE or LIES!!!**
Your comments you said, were not even worth the time you spent to write them down on this website...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,Time for hymn 111,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,Same with Noah in the bible and Mr. Lot,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,Thank you for always doing this! 🙏,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,I had a feeling they won’t read the second sentence of john 10:9. Can’t believe members are actually allowing them not to read the second sentence.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,"I googled that the world has around 5000 ethnicities.
Philippines has 135 to 175 indigenous ethnicities or in other articles ethnolinguistic. So INC probably counted all the ethnicities of PI. Which makes sense because INCult is 99% Filipinos.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,I like the tune of the new 142.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,"He was just posting the lesson for the upcoming mid week household worship service. It's been prepared/recycled by the church administration. It's something that we have to read during HWS.
Just giving us trapped members here a little heads up of what topic its going to be this time.
So not looking forward to it...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,"My sole intention in posting the whole lesson word for word is for us all here to objectively critic the lesson of this cult. We have the be aware where this cult is dragging our own family and whole clan.
In doing this, i recieve notice from REDDIT before that what im doing is subject to copyright violation. My response is to ask lurkers here from central to be grateful since we are helping them in their propagation of the word of god globally.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,You're welcome! :D,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,"Ah, INC just doesn’t seem to understand the importance of quality over quantity. In any event, 147/5000 is only 2.94%, yet they claim to be “all over the world”",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,"Hi Mr. Mask,
I would read it superficially, but not study it for it has no edifiable content if you are required to read it in a worship service. - does not teach you anything and just garbage!
Young Offenheimer
P.S.
**I would be sleeping at this time during the service.**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 02 - Jun 04, 2021)",nqbqk5,2021-06-01,"Hi Mr. Santos,
thank you for your clarification on this last document you posted. If I was to critique this INC lesson, the premise of it being noteworthy is false throughout most of this document and hence a moot subject to edit it as a sound lesson for anyone in the future!
I hope you understand!
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nqbqk5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_02_jun_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,Not even worship service anymore. It's straight up guilt tripping Parents and soon to be parents if they failed the younger generation to do worship. And they straight up made sanlibutan as their enemies and not even try to save them anymore lmfao,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"Wow! I can't believe they'd even use the word ""peace of mind"" on their lesson when they're the ones causing me to lose mine in the first place.
Telling parents to monitor and control their kids even as they grow up and have their own family? They really do have this vision of a dystopian society under Manalo don't they?
Totally not a cult right?
This is the reason why I'm planning to NOT have kids so long as I'm in INC!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"Can't stop myself from eyerolling cuz of all the bs that I heard today. To sum it up, parents must control their children's lives and prevent them from growing and having a life of their own.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"To not get bored in ws i do a lot of stuff for the lols. Like counting how many officers/brethrens falls asleep, how many Ama are in a prayer. How many mention of inc, etc.
Anyways. Strange that even for married children down to the grandkids, parents are given the rights to advised/interfere on religious dealings, well for control freaks it will include everything.
But i idolized bro evm, he does not heed to his mommy and cut off the communications even off her from the organization because he thought that she's up to no good. What if i think my parents are the same, can i disregard their advise/interference as i deem it evil? Oh geez, im no evm.
At least i'll have my lines open to listen to my parents, LISTEN. Hahaha",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"""""""""""KAILANGAN GABAYAN NG MAGULANG ANG ANAK""""""""""
More like control their lives, hahahaha putangina",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"I don't think that this worship service belong to any of the seven deadly themes, but it is still BS.
It is not the main responsibility of the parents anymore to take care of their grandchildren and adult/independent children. Let them earn their rest, INC!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,The hypocrisy inside the INC cult is beyond me. They are controlling and manipulative.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"I just want to know who’s been talking trash on TikTok because they’ve been telling people to get off of it for weeks. How many lessons are we gonna get about social media? Can’t they be a normal religion, and talk about relevant things? Don’t we need that more than ever? They keep trying to control every aspect of people’s lives. That’s A CULT. They should make lessons about how gossiping is a sin, especially rape, pedophilia, extramarital affairs, y’know the more common and pressing issues I’ve seen among members. We’re really gonna have a lesson about social media? Really? That’s LEAST of our problems in this messed up pandemic world. u/JoeVentilacion",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,Did not listen much but i got what the lesson is about. Its about the importance of whoreshite services and how parents should enforce spiritual slavery on their family including their married offspring's family and their grandchildren.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"Just from reading the comments alone, I'm glad I haven't attended in several years.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"The cult of course control all their members, to keep them all in their payroll.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"**Overview**
* ""The Household That Will Be Blessed by God""
* Although the verses themselves presented no obvious deadly theme, my preacher went on a tangent that mentioned ""The Administration."" Furthermore, other users on this thread report hearing ""Social Media against the Church"" and/or ""Don't Leave the INC"" in their respective locales.
**Verses**
* [Psalm 128:1-4 (NIV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20128%3A1-4&version=NIV)
* [1 Timothy 6:14](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1%20Timothy%206:14)
* [Proverbs 16:6](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Proverbs%2016:6)
* [Proverbs 14:26-27 (GNT)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+14%3A26-27&version=GNT)
* [Psalm 34:11 (NIV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+34%3A11&version=NIV)
* [Romans 12:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2012%3A1&version=NIV)
* [Matthew 6:9](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%206:9) [and 10](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%206:10) *(mentioned but not read)*
* [John 4:24](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/John%204:24) *(mentioned but not read)*
* [Isaiah 2:3](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Isaiah%202:3)
* [Deuteronomy 6:5](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Deuteronomy%206:5) [and 7](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Deuteronomy%206:7)
* *Omitted:* [*Verse 6*](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Deuteronomy%206:6)
* [Psalms 63:1-3](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+63%3A1-3&version=GNT)
* [Proverbs 20:11](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Proverbs%2020:11)
* [Proverbs 1:10, 15 (GNT)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+1%3A10%2C15&version=GNT)
* [Proverbs 31:27](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Proverbs%2031:27)
* [1 John 5:4 (MEV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+5%3A4&version=MEV)
* [Philippians 4:19](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Philippians%204:19) [and 6](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Philippians%204:6)
* Since I was able to view a copy of the teacher's guide, I have provided all available translations.
**Hymns**
* 138: ""Because of God""
* 164: ""Father, Almighty God""
* 279: ""I Now Worship You""
* 47: ""Follow Our Lord""
* lecture/submission hymn (particularly verse 1 and chorus 1)
* [424: ""As for Me and My Family""](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E_V-WzrFkU)
* unsettling culty (for lack of a better term) hymn where the worshiper vows his/her family will treasure their election
* Verse 3 namedrops the church in an attempt to keep the worshipers trapped.
* Even the music itself is very unsettling, with a very dissonant cadence and, even before that, quite a few dissonant chords that make my skin crawl (and not in a good way).
* 177: ""Take with You the Father's Light""
* lecture hymn
* 265: ""Uphold His Light""
* Lecture hymn/showtune that includes lyrics about not doubting and not forgetting to worship.
**My Commentary**
* [Ezekiel 18:20](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Ezekiel%2018:20) ([commentary](https://biblehub.com/commentaries/ezekiel/18-20.htm)) and [Deuteronomy 24:16](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Deuteronomy%2024:16) ([commentary](https://biblehub.com/commentaries/deuteronomy/24-16.htm)) are two verses that state that no person shall die because of another's sin. However, the Bible contradicts itself because it mentions scenarios where people did die because of another person's sins; for example, in [Daniel 6:24](https://biblehub.com/daniel/6-24.htm), the wives and children of the men who falsely accused Daniel were punished as well. Furthermore, because of Adam and Eve's consumption of the forbidden fruit, mankind to this day continues to suffer. Can you guess which side INC has chosen to take, considering the number of families expelled because of one sinner? Can you guess how much, if any, Biblical evidence INC uses to support such expulsons?
* Mind you, all of this is taking the Bible at face value, something that is highly debatable and probably better discussed on another thread.
* Dt. 24:16 was most recently read in the [24 Jan 2021](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/l34oea/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_23_jan_26/) WS. Even then, IIRC, the preacher seemed to support its idea at first, but then gives no explanation as to the numerous expulsions that violate the verse.
* Going further with the deadly theme I heard, my preacher claims that parents should teach their children to be one with the administration. And yet if anyone tries to ask him if INC is a cult, he would vehemently deny it, likely with insufficient/incorrect supporting evidence (or, more likely, no evidence whatsoever).
* Like many users on this thread, my preacher claims parents should monitor their children, even after the point by which the law dictates said ""children"" are already adults. Then INC wonders why many of its younger members (and even some...not-as-young members) have lost belief/consider this ""church"" a cult.
* Despite the low quality of the hymns, the preacher, when discussing Rom. 12:1, goes on a tangent and calls out those not singing. Maybe if the hymns were at least partway decent and not overly cult-ish, more brethren would sing, but what does anyone outside the administration know...
* "" 'Freewill'? What's that?"" —INC since 1913",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"Making the church look like a family helping organization, and ignoring the collapse of their doctrines. Just another worship service, and profit day for Manalos.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,Our OWE mentioned Social Media = Bad,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,">And they straight up made sanlibutan as their enemies
This is an old rhetoric of the INC, and is why Defenders who call EVM ""full of hate and spite"" are mere hypocrites.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,">Telling parents to monitor and control their kids even as they grow up
Just gives my mother all the justification she needs to try to arrange marriages and make us spy on each other. No respect for privacy or free will. Just obedience, obedience, obedience.
Edit: She is high off her ""God-given"" power and using it to ask what we're doing every five minutes. ~~Save me.~~",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,That’s horrible but on one hand no surprise there but what is worrisome is that they used the words “peace of mind” in relation to controlling their own children? That’s abuse! The fact that these parents can’t see it as such is chilling. I hope these kids will wake up because life in a choke hold is no life at all.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"As a child of OWE parents, I cannot emphasize how damaging this is for my mental health. My parents made it clear that I’ll still be within their grasp even after I’m married. I’m in my late 20s and they refuse to let me grow and move out. They monitor my every move like I’m a child. Then they tell me it’s just how traditional Filipinos are! Bullshit!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"At least you love your parents unconditionally like how Jesus Christ loves you. The INC’s administration and EVM’s preaching has brainwashed its members. Instead of turning to Jesus and being like Jesus Christ the INC turns to the Money of this world which was the whole issue on EVM disowning his own mother. Imagine that people a leader that disowned his own mother in a Christian faith of God and Jesus Christ, that is so opposite on what the Holy Bible is all about!!!! They prefer preaching on Felix, Eraneo, and Ed’s life as a gospel and then totally forget about Jesus Gospel. They say Jesus Christ’s name but never preach Jesus Christ’s gospel. It’s always a repeat brainwashed lecture of Felix this and Felix that, you must be obedient and always offer, offer, offer, your offering. CULT, CULT, CULT!!!!! Read the Holy Bible my friend you’ll truly find that the INC’s ways of choosing their bible scripture to suite their own teachings to control you and using Gods name to do it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"Why don't just say it outright ""bawal reddit bawal tiktok mga pugad ng demonyo"" while shoehorning Bible verses, they waste time with all that pretentiousness in WS",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"Technically it does, namely *Don't leave INC* and *Social Media against the Church.*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"that would mean admitting they have a problem amongst the member base, which is REALLY not in line with their whole ""brotherhood"" schtick
they won't preach about recent events either, they'll just say its how this world is like and preach their nihilistic views that only the truly faithful will go to Manalo heaven",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"So basically, they’re saying to ignore outsiders especially social media and focus on INC. Their fears and desperation are so palpable.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"Hopefully the INC members can be enlightened by the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Which is mainly LOVE and Not Being Controlled by guilt, continues Sorrows, monitory OFFERING’s, Manalo’s Gospel and the wicked world which they continuously repeat even though the Holy Bible says God so LOVED the world that he gave his only son for it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,They even said that being independent is not encouraged inside the church because we are not 'sanlibutans' (idk what is the english term for this),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"You’re not alone, I can relate to this so freaking much 😩",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,They can't do that. They will freely advertise reddit as a place for people who have questions on their faith.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,Streisand effect,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,It’s the same recycled bullshit. They don’t know how to talk about anything else! They’re being told what to say like robots,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 05 - Jun 08, 2021)",nsm54s,2021-06-04,"sanlibutans, unbelievers basically",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nsm54s/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_05_jun_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"Wow, this lesson was prepared by the great EVM! 🤡
Basically, don’t get distracted by the world, hold on to your membership, and finish the race. If you have yet to attend, prepare yourself to be eye-rolling constantly because EVM and the administration is going to be mentioned ALOT.
The first verse read, Which I believe was Revelations 3:11 was read three freaking times back to back to back in different translations just so the minister could extensively talk about not letting the world take our crown of life/membership
I recall a disgusting moment in the service where our minster talked about how people in this world strive on getting an education and working hard for things like cars or traveling around the world. Minister than said I’m not saying those things are bad… BUT… If we’re busy and distracted by those things, how do we make time for the worship service and evangelical missions. Several times the minister’s opening line in a spiel started with EVM is advising us, the Administrator Is advising us.
Mid lesson, our minister dedicated a lot of time promoting the administration and current projects. Apparently the administration’s latest campaign is called Intensive submission and obedience to God’s will (which we all know means EVM/Administration 😂). Surprise surpise, administration has another huge money grab event planned... I recall our minister mentioning that there’s a WORLDWIDE DONATION coming up in September. Minister even made an appeal to the brothers who are in the Kadiwa and Buklod to consider joining the ministry.
Ughhhh the prayer after the lesson. Minister prayed for us to die as a member of the church. When it came to the dreaded EVM portion of the prayer, Minister pleaded to God to extend EVM’s life and mentioned how EVM labors hard day and night for us.
EVM prepared lessons… shameless about mentioning EVM, the administration and the divine election of the Manalo dynasty no matter the topic of the lesson. After the FYM month, I’m kind of hoping we keep getting these EVM prepared lessons because a lot of dumb shit gets preached. These EVM lessons are naturally going to drive members away from the koolaid, wake up to the bs and hopefully they end up on here ranting about the WS like I am lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"So basically, they're kind of like saying that living our life is but a distraction.
Then they proceed to sell this ""salvation"" and heaven stuff and their intensive blind obedience.
Administration reminds us that our future and education is not that important. Only the Church of Manalo and your blind obedience is super important.
They think they are too important for you, your well being, your education and your future. All because they claim that a book was referring to them.
No thanks EVM, I'll stick to my ""distractions"" so that I can get out of this cult sooner.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,EVM is trying to diss exINC without mentioning exINC lmfao,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"If only I can do a facepalm in front my family when my father read the first sentence.. just the first sentence made my blood boil. ""ang pinakamamahal nating Tagapamahalang pangkalahatan, ang kapatid na Eduardo V. Manalo, ay nagmamahal sa lahat ng kaanib ng Iglesia ni Cristo."" 🤦♀️🤦♂️🤦♀️🤦♂️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"I'm excused today's brain washing. Caring for my mom. In God's eyes I'm doing good work !!!
Wonder if they will accept that as an excuse ?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"Fuck that hard labor like what exactly is he doing really apart from an extreme lavish lifestyle, ridiculous mansion inside the central, crazy transportations and I can go on and on then ironically they tell the members to avoid activities that will keep them away from WS (they actually meant a reduction of fucking REVENUES if you enjoy your life!!!!!) such a hypocrite, blatant and slavery at its best!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"**Overview**
* We Should Continue Strong in the Faith and Not Get Distracted until the Day of Judgment
* The lesson would have lacked the Deadly Themes had my preacher not shoehorned The Administration and Don't Leave the INC in there.
**Verses Read**
* [Revelation 3:11](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Revelation%203:11)
* This was read three different times, each under a different translation. The only one that was mentioned was the [Expanded Bible](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%203:11&version=EXB).
* [Proverbs 4:25](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Proverbs%204:25)
* [Matthew 13:22](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%2013:22)
* [Hebrews 12:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Hebrews%2012:1)
* [Colossians 1:23](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Colossians%201:23)
* [James 1:25](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/James%201:25)
* [Philippians 3:14](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Philippians%203:14)
* [Philippians 4:6](http://biblegateway.com/verse/en/Philippians%204:6), [4:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Philippians%204:13), [4:19](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Philippians%204:19)
**Hymns**
* 34: ""I Pray to You""
* 322: ""You Are My Joy""
* 9: ""Everyone, Be Prepared""
* 109: ""Who Is Burdened?""
* 150: ""Never Waste Your Life on Worldly Pleasures""
* 218: ""We Will Study the Words of God""
* 265: ""Uphold His Light""
**My Comments**
* I only saw the title of the lesson on the teacher's guide; I failed to see any translations.
* The lesson is basically a guilt trip to those wishing to relinquish their office(s), if they haven't already. Trying to further your career and/or education, and/or trying to work for a living? If one or more interferes with your membership or offices, your minister/worker will guilt trip you to the point of nausea.
* Preacher mentions the numerous church activities, especially the propagation ones, thinking taking the ""broken record"" approach will make the brethren care even slightly about ""upholding their memberships.""
* ~~I take it neither Lord Manalo nor his yes-men heard of these things called ""burnout"" or ""life outside church"" or ""not wanting your friends to question your sanity level.""~~
* 34 & 322 are the only hymns where the worshiper sings to Christ (34) or God (322). The rest are lecture hymns, with 9; 109 & 150 all having lyrics about being devoted in one's duties in the church (not to mention the glaringly obvious titles of 9 & 150). 150 goes further with the lyric, ""Never think your sacrifices are useless,"" despite (or more likely because of) the contradictory belief of the more cynical brethren. 218 doubles as a submission hymn, ending on a lyric about remaining in the church.
* ~~It's like Lord Manalo himself made this lineup!~~
* ~~218 might as well be titled ""We Will Study the Words of Manalo"".~~
Edit: cleanup",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"Slept through the whole worship service, woke up a couple of times because I would fall into real sleep(where my body becomes limp and would either slide to the left or right). Would rate my sleep 7/10.
Never knew what the lesson was about, I'm pretty sure it was unimportant because it is about the most important man in the world.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,I didn’t pay attention much but it’s so pathetic the amount of times they mention the ministers who were expelled or aren’t in the church anymore. It’s almost like they’re the ex that can’t move on from the relationship.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,Fear-mongering because of sta.cena season.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,Hindi ako umattend ngayong araw ng pagsamba at kakausapin raw ang mga hindi sumamba dahil malapit na ang sta cena. Ano kaya ang magandang rason?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"My minister said ""Sometimes you feel alone and you're fighting but you're tired"" then went on a tangent about prayer and how Jesus will give us strength and that EVM cares so much about us which is why he prepared this lesson.
I feel that. But the only time prayer's helped with that sentence is when I accidentally fall asleep when I tried to pray.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"EVM prepared a lesson to submit to administration of
EVM. Wow.
EVM is taking into his own hands to make sure that
EVM is gets embedded on the members DNA
Every Victimized Member of INCult please wake up.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,Prepared? You mean cut and paste because it’s the same crappy stuff.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"Hi NPC,
That is what Adolf Hitler said to the people of Germany too. Hitler burned many, many books including the Bible. Maybe, Eduardo will also burn the Bible for he does not think that it is that important any longer too! Wow...
Young Offenheimer
P.S.
The ""book"" is probably is not the Bible, but **""The Fundamentals of the Church of Christ"" is the most important book!!!**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"English Translation: ""Our God-Emperor of mankind, His holiness, His excellency, The hope of all mankind, The most important man in the world more than Jesus himself, Eduardo V. Manalo, loves his brethren so much specially those rich brethren who gave him millions of pesos""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"No it will not be and they'll use that verse where Jesus rejected people who wanted to be his disciples/apostles? but they have to take care of somethings(i.e. burying the dead, telling the family that they'll follow Jesus) first before they join him. They'll also throw a verse or two about the importance of brainwashing services to guilt trip you.
Then they'll tell you on what you should do like ""ask your neighbors to take care of your mom while you attend brainwashing services, or ask any of your relatives"".
To the cult, they must be NUMBER ONE priority in your lives. Your life second.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"Choir practice for this service made me feel so sick. Especially since they keep saying to *""sing with all your heart"".* 322's quite entertaining, some of those lyrics would sound great screamed, some distorted guitars... ~~metal cover band for INC hymns anyone?~~",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"No, they’ve heard of burnout. They just read that verse about God giving you strength when you’re tired in response. That helps a devout for all of ten seconds and then they collapse from overwork.
Now that I think about it, didn’t FYM overwork himself to death? Or was it that he overworked himself to sickness, got better, then eventually died of something else? It’s been a while.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"Hi Encrusty,
**They are not talking about Jesus as the most important man of this world?**
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"Hi Brian,
We need to contact those expelled or missing ministers or workers if possible. Please contact them and tell them of our website for solace.
We know they are hurting also!
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"Sabihin mo busy ka nagtratrabaho para may pang abuloy, lagak at handog ka sa pasasalamat. Hahaha",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"How can EVM care for you, he doesn’t even know you! The only thing EVM cares about is you giving your money. Now Jesus Christ is the one that knows you. He’s the only one that truly Loves you and wants you to trust in him by calling out to him, not EVM. Ask yourself this......Did EVM sacrifice himself for the sins of all people? The INC/administration and EVM are brainwashing their members by preaching the properties that they have are God sent. The INC makes their members envious of such earthly things such as an Arena, a Zoo, and a botanical Bonsai garden which all are material and earthly thing which they can’t take to heaven. The INC members are so brainwashed that they don’t see Jesus Christ is reaching out to them with unconditional Love, they only see the INC membership Law to be obedient to The administration and EVM. Which is totally EVIL, because they put their so called faith on the Church and properties that they purchased and built. INC’s BOASTING is so EVIL that the members are so blinded to see it because they envy the earthly things too much",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,🤣🤣,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"Manalo Banzaaaai! 🇮🇪🇮🇪
Amaaaaaaaa!!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"Lol!
**Vanquishing those who disdain me/You silence all of my fears!**
*[Screaming transition into the refrain]*
*[Deep breath, then…]*
**I WILL SING FORTH PRAISE EVERMORE…**
Also, I just don’t see how one can “sing with your heart” for a lecture hymn. Are we supposed to be borderline crying for hymn 109 or 150? Makes no sense to me, as all that does is exemplify the things wrong with this church…",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,He's just a side character to the manalos. Heck even God is a side character,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"For clarification, I felt the ""alone and fighting but tired"", not the rest of his bullshit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"I don't know, guilt crying while reflecting? Either way it's messed up.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 09 - Jun 11, 2021)",nvln28,2021-06-08,"Hi Encrusty,
Like I wrote to another member on the edge; I am sure that Eduardo thinks as himself better than Christ even though Christ NEVER sinned. The next thing you will notice that Eduardo usurps even God for He made mistakes when writing the Bible...
Even Hitler thought that the Bible was flawed and also required it with other books to be burned in the 1930's for not that important.
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nvln28/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_09_jun_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 12 - Jun 15, 2021)",nxwzew,2021-06-11,"Church admin is telling us again what to do and how to live our lives and they say that it's for our own good.
How is that good for us? They're telling us to use our time to do free labor for them! Sacrificing our education, everyday needs, and our own happiness to do extra work for a church that doesn't even give a damn!
They're voluntelling us to offer and find converts again. And for what? Possible ""salvation"" that is not even guaranteed because we'll just end up sinning again somehow?
They're using that Judgement Day doomsday spiel again to scare us into obedience.
To the church administration, you suck!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nxwzew/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_12_jun_15/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 12 - Jun 15, 2021)",nxwzew,2021-06-11,"Sad to believe that the INC Members are brainwashed once again in a repetitive process of preaching. INC’s goal of telling their members to not to forsake the worship service and reminder of offering to the Administration that God commands. Sick, and Toxic teachings that the INC members just soak up and believe, hopefully the new generation of INC members start reading the Bible and know how the INC/Manalo preaching is FALSE. Cherry picked verses once again that they use to suite their own interpretation that their members clearly are blinded and in reality don’t trust that Jesus Christ loves them and know their HEARTS intentions. Manalo preaching reads parts of scriptures of Jesus Christ then they interpret it in their own way of preaching. I followed the verse that they read and it’s only a small portion on what Jesus Christ goal was. The INC ministers cut and paste the gospel of Jesus Christ in their twisted knowledge from the Administration teachings. Never and I say NEVER the INC will ever reveal the truth about Jesus Christ’s gospel that’s in the New Testament of the Holy Bible!!!!! Jesus Christ’s Birth, Miracle’s, persecution, crucifixion, resurrection, and LOVE for all is what real Christian’s hearts need to nourish. The INC’s money hungry preaching and brainwashed ways must stop!!! I feel the new generation of youth in the INC will get inspired by the gospel of Jesus Christ and sway away from the whole Manalo gospel because of the Internet that the IGLESIA NI Christo is so very afraid of, and of the past in 2015 that the INC has encountered that led its Manalo leader to disown his Mother. LOVE, LOVE and LOVE of Jesus Christ’s gospel will conquer all, instead of Manalo’s TOXIC teachings of offering, membership, and administration/Manalo preaching.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nxwzew/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_12_jun_15/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 12 - Jun 15, 2021)",nxwzew,2021-06-11,1st one of 3 to be excused from as we are on holiday !!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nxwzew/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_12_jun_15/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 12 - Jun 15, 2021)",nxwzew,2021-06-11,"**Overview**
* The Way of Life Each Member of the INC Should Live
* obedience, self-submission, edification
* Deadly Themes (Mentioned Only): The Admin, Offerings (brief), Detractors (brief), Don't Leave the INC (brief)
**Verses**
* [Titus 2:13-14, 12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus+2%3A13-14%2C12&version=NKJV)
* [Prov. 29:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Proverbs%2029:1)
* [2 Sam. 22:24, 22-23, 19-21](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Samuel+22%3A24%2C22-23%2C19-21&version=NKJV)
* [Gal. 6:9](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Galatians%206:9)
* [Heb. 10:36](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Hebrews%2010:36)
* [Luke 21:34-35](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+21%3A34-35&version=NKJV)
* [Philip. 3:19](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Philippians%203:19)
* [1 Corin. 16:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1%20Corinthians%2016:13)
* [Ps. 72:1-2, 12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+72%3A1-2%2C+12&version=NKJV)
* [Is. 63:7-9](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+63%3A7-9&version=NKJV)
**Hymns**
* 192: ""Worship Our Lord God""
* lecture hymn
* 210: ""Today, I Worship You, Dear LORD""
* This is the only hymn in today's lineup where the worshiper sings to God.
* 49: ""The End of Our Journey Is Nearing""
* lecture hymn
* 65: ""I Will Never Betray My Lord""
* emotional guilt trip into lyrics about duty
* 238: ""Safeguard Our Election""
* never leave INC, uphold duty
* 3: ""Open Your Heart""
* lecture hymn
* 265: ""Uphold His Light""
* lecture hymn
**My Comments**
* My preacher withheld all translations of the verses read. For the sake of context and readability, entries with multiple verses lead to the NKJV translation, with all verses appearing in the order (or lack thereof) in which the preacher read them. I was not able to see the teacher's guide this WS.
* Preacher also claims the so-called detractors supposedly never succeeded and never will (Where's a lie detector when you need one?).
* Why did I say, ""Mentioned Only"" in the Deadly Themes entry? A quick skim of today's verses would show no obvious Deadly Theme, meaning that the preacher violated [Deut. 12:32](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Deuteronomy%2012:32) and [Rev. 22:18](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Revelation%2022:18) by adding to the supposedly pristine doctrine that is the Holy Bible.
Edit: spaces",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nxwzew/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_12_jun_15/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 12 - Jun 15, 2021)",nxwzew,2021-06-11,"It's funny that they use Titus 2:13 which says ""our great God and Savior Jesus Christ"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nxwzew/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_12_jun_15/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 12 - Jun 15, 2021)",nxwzew,2021-06-11,"Pretty sure the lesson was about if we betray the assministration, we betray god himself(EVM). Idk, never listened. Was daydreaming of owning a super car then driving around INC chapels while revving the engine so loud.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nxwzew/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_12_jun_15/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 12 - Jun 15, 2021)",nxwzew,2021-06-11,"I love how my minister said ""We will never betray God"" talking about our duties.
I'm pretty sure 65 is about Jesus.
Also he tried to defend himself when he said *some people might think its easy for you to say that. You're a minister, you have no family, no career, no family.* His defense was literally to ask the officers or elders of the church, look at how they're active and inviting people.
*Suuuure.*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nxwzew/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_12_jun_15/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 12 - Jun 15, 2021)",nxwzew,2021-06-11,"I'd like to just share a few things from the Children's Worship Service hymns. They *love* making children pledge their obedience.
* 27 ""Father, We Give Thanks"" (formerly 369 ""Your Love"")
* I love how this hymn has children(4-12) confessing their sins to God and begging for forgiveness when the old hymn was about God's love and care.
* 2 ""We Praise You, We Give Praise To You"" (formerly 367 ""All Praise To You"")
* Only hymn where the child sings to God
* 91 ""Lord Jesus, We Now Give Our Abundant Thanks To You""
* Child pledges they will be obedient to God as long as they live as Christ did
* 66 ""Always Uphold Our Spiritual Fervor""
* Lecture hymn: obedience, pledge loyalty to the church
* 12 ""I Will Always Serve The Lord God"" (formerly 242 ""With Him Forever I'll Be"")
* This hymn used to have a child find comfort in God's love, now it's a child saying they're *""already trained to serve""* and pledge their lifelong obedience
* 89 ""The Teachings Of Almighty God""
* Lecture hymn
* *""Truth made known to His Messenger And to the Church Administration""*
* 59 ""Always Worship Him"" (formerly 80 ""Blessed Children Of The Lord"")
* Lecture hymn
* Tells kids to not envy/follow this world and God is the only thing that brings joy.
Gotta indoctrinate them early!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nxwzew/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_12_jun_15/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 12 - Jun 15, 2021)",nxwzew,2021-06-11,Nothing about Jesus Christ and the Love he has for us and all people. Brainwashing tactics again and again to its members who needs to be preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Hopefully the INC members will one day get enlightened by Jesus Christ’s gospel and clear their minds of the TOXIC grip of the Manalo Administration’s teachings,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nxwzew/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_12_jun_15/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 12 - Jun 15, 2021)",nxwzew,2021-06-11,"This is yet again using classical conditioning that if they keep repeating twisted verses again and again, the member will submit to it as if you are in some sort of under the spell. Wake up guys!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nxwzew/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_12_jun_15/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 12 - Jun 15, 2021)",nxwzew,2021-06-11,😂😂😂 titus 2:13 states that jesus is god. Oh i would love to see what translation they pulled out of their asses to explain this one.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nxwzew/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_12_jun_15/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 12 - Jun 15, 2021)",nxwzew,2021-06-11,Yes they are very asleep literally daydreaming or comatose. The members are programmed like robots as they get recharged with the TOXIC Manalo teachings. Thank GOD for this Subreddit for being available. Hopefully one the INC members will awake to the light of Jesus Christ’s gospel,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nxwzew/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_12_jun_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 16 - Jun 18, 2021)",o0v5ne,2021-06-15,"I should be thankful because I am an INC member despite of all the challenges we are experiencing in this world? No, thanks. Nothing new. Same old shit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o0v5ne/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_16_jun_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 16 - Jun 18, 2021)",o0v5ne,2021-06-15,"**Overview**
* ""Whatever Hardship and Suffering We Experience in This World, We Are Still Very Blessed Because We Are Members of the Church of Christ""
* (Implicit) Deadly Theme: Don't Leave the INC
**Verses Read**
* [Romans 8:35 (Easy English)](https://www.bible.com/bible/2079/rom.8.35.EASY)
* [(commentary)](https://www.bibleref.com/Romans/8/Romans-8-35.html)
* [Ephesians 5:25 (NSNT \[see below\])](https://www.bibleref.com/Ephesians/5/Ephesians-5-25.html)
* [Ephesians 3:6](https://www.bibleref.com/Ephesians/3/Ephesians-3-6.html)
* [Philippians 4:12](https://www.bibleref.com/Philippians/4/Philippians-4-12.html) [and 13](https://www.bibleref.com/Philippians/4/Philippians-4-13.html)
* [1 Corinthians 12:9](https://www.bibleref.com/1-Corinthians/12/1-Corinthians-12-9.html) [and 10](https://www.bibleref.com/1-Corinthians/12/1-Corinthians-12-10.html)
* [1 Corinthians 1:4](https://www.bibleref.com/1-Corinthians/1/1-Corinthians-1-4.html)
* [Psalm 78:19](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/78/Psalm-78-19.html), [20](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/78/Psalm-78-20.html), [21](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/78/Psalm-78-21.html), [and 22](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/78/Psalm-78-22.html)
* [Full chapter](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/78/Psalms-chapter-78.html)
* [Isaiah 50:2](https://www.bibleref.com/Isaiah/50/Isaiah-50-2.html) [and 3](https://www.bibleref.com/Isaiah/50/Isaiah-50-3.html)
* [1 Kings 17:8-16](https://www.bibleref.com/1-Kings/17/1-Kings-chapter-17.html) *(link leads to full chapter)*
* [Isaiah 48:18](https://www.bibleref.com/Isaiah/48/Isaiah-48-18.html)
* [Isaiah 48:17](https://www.bibleref.com/Isaiah/48/Isaiah-48-17.html)
* [Psalm 71:1-6, 9](https://www.bibleref.com/Psalms/71/Psalms-chapter-71.html) *(link leads to full chapter)*
**My Comments**
* Is anyone familiar with the ""Norlie's Simplified New Testament"" translation of the Bible? I tried Googling the verse with that translation, but the search engine yielded no meaningful results.
* The only things I saw on the teacher's guide were the title and the translations of the first two verses because I did not want to draw any unwanted attention.
**Hymns**
* 274: ""Serve and Worship Our God""
* [315: ""We Give Praise and Thanks""](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfVaJ5eClys)
* eerie-sounding hymn revolving around the pretenses that INC is God's nation and God is a god of love.
* 220: ""Soon Christ Will Return""
* lecture hymn with lyrics about obedience and duty
* 247: ""Father, Kindly Help Me""
* superficial title, lyrics about duty/submission
* 48: ""To My Lord Jesus, I Will Bring My Cares""
* Backstory: Apparently, this hymn used to be set to the Israeli national anthem until an Israeli man rose, exposing INC's plagiarism and forcing a rewrite of the song's composition.
* 190: ""The Words of Almighty God""
* lecture hymn
* 265: ""Uphold His Light""
* lecture hymn",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o0v5ne/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_16_jun_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 16 - Jun 18, 2021)",o0v5ne,2021-06-15,"Minister said something about how we ""shouldn't let ourselves become depressed or hopeless"" and how we should ""always have a reason to be hopeful and positive""
I *hate* lessons like these. I can just hear my parents saying ""you have no reason to feel that"" while laughing when I tried to open up to them years ago. Then hearing that from the belief system that I diligently followed for all my life? How could they possibly expect someone to rejoice at that.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o0v5ne/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_16_jun_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 16 - Jun 18, 2021)",o0v5ne,2021-06-15,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o0v5ne/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_16_jun_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 16 - Jun 18, 2021)",o0v5ne,2021-06-15,"Just want to share an overview of the Book of Kings.
https://youtu.be/bVFW3wbi9pk
It is basically a narrative of the ongoing saga of ancient Israel. For INCult to pluck a small story of Elijah from this book and plant it into our modern time is not right.
Let me guess that lesson implied using King verses, that miracles or God will always take care of you if you have faith but of course within the world INCult .",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o0v5ne/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_16_jun_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 16 - Jun 18, 2021)",o0v5ne,2021-06-15,Thank you 🌸,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o0v5ne/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_16_jun_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 16 - Jun 18, 2021)",o0v5ne,2021-06-15,Careful with posting about HS. Schedules this year are mostly irregular and you could potentially be identified using reverse social engineering.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o0v5ne/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_16_jun_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 16 - Jun 18, 2021)",o0v5ne,2021-06-15,You are most welcome! 👍,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o0v5ne/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_16_jun_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 16 - Jun 18, 2021)",o0v5ne,2021-06-15,"Right, didn't realize that. I'll delete it just to be safe. The lesson aint anything new anyway.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o0v5ne/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_16_jun_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 16 - Jun 18, 2021)",o0v5ne,2021-06-15,Let them try. Double firewalled and VPN connection.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o0v5ne/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_16_jun_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 16 - Jun 18, 2021)",o0v5ne,2021-06-15,"Erm, the best VPN provider won't save a person if Central figures out their identity based on the information they had posted here. It's why we encourage throwaways in the first place.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o0v5ne/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_16_jun_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 16 - Jun 18, 2021)",o0v5ne,2021-06-15,Don’t think church has CIA tools or programs to find out who the users are here. They can isolate who you are tho base on info you type in here. So yeah VPN and firewall is irrelevant.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o0v5ne/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_16_jun_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 16 - Jun 18, 2021)",o0v5ne,2021-06-15,Let them expel me. No more offerings and freedom. Oh also name gets read out at church !!! Yipppeeee,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o0v5ne/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_16_jun_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,"Lesson is all about obeying the administration.
In a nutshell, children obey your parents > parents obey the administration > everybody obey the administration.
Couldn’t exactly catch the title of the lesson, I think it was about how to live a happy and secure life yet the lesson is all about obeying the administration. Our minister was such a blatant administration shill and the lesson was unashamedly cultic about the administration.
Minister plays up to it, kicking off the lesson that children must obey their parents (but our supreme Lord EVM did his mother dirty😦). Once the transition from children obeying parents to parents obeying the Administration happens, rest of the lesson is all about the administration. At this point in the lesson, other than verses being read, literally every single sentence said by the minister included either administration or EVM.
It felt like the administration was mentioned more times in the lesson than God and Jesus combined, which is funny considering the fact that they read zero verses containing the words or phrase church administration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,"The first part is a pathetic fearmongering tactic against budding young professionals who want to leave the cult. They can barely pretend to keep context here.
The rest (over half of the crap) is admin bootlicking with barely any bible verses to bullshit in, with practically turning the cultic EVilMan slogan into an injected fake bible verse.
But basically, they really can’t think of anything to say other than stay in the cult (and give a ton of money) and follow the cult admin in all of these “lessons” as of late. They supposedly have more themes (which is not a lot) but (correct me if I am wrong) they’ve been revolving around staying, following them as if they were a deity, and money. They’re not only out of anything to say, but are desperate to keep what they have to retain their lavish lifestyles from the money of psychological victims.
It’s high time to strike harder, get more victims out, and hit this cult admin hard!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,"Agree with the comment below. ""Pamamahala"" was mentioned soooo many times, like wth? Obedience to your parents lol more like obedience to administration was the topic",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,"Who would want to obey that stupid INC cult administration. Feeling entitled. They want you to stay, obey, and never complain because of your offerings and nothing else. Using fear tactic to its members is a clear sign that you are in a cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,"Perhaps the cult's attrition rate is gradually increasing, hence they have to resort to leveraging parents to keep younger members trapped in the cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,"Lessons like this are what controlling inc parents use as their badge of authority to micromanage the kids, even if the kid is of age and self sustaining.
In my observation, once the kids have a lot more than the parents, be it power or money, that control/authority loosen. Go back to 2015 and you'll see...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,"Okay sooooo... my mind was wondering and I easily got the gist of the lesson. Assministration > Cult parents > Children > Childrens' Children. Cult parents should be controlling so that the cycle of being trapped inside the cult will never stop.
Minister was praying that ~~""God""~~ EVM is replacing our sadness with happiness and as usual praying for the family of EVM. That EVM should be given wisdom. I think Joe needs that prayer more than EVM.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,"In a nutshell, children obey your parents > parents obey the administration > everybody obey the administration and they **-Administration should obey God and the Bible, but they do not!!!**
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,"I wasn't paying attention to the adult worship service at all, but know my parents are going to use it to try to control the lives of me and my siblings until they die. ~~Or until I cut contact and shame the family name.~~
Anyway here's a few things from the CWS:
* 23 ""Please Draw Near to Him"" (formerly 250 ""Behold Your Children"")
* Normal prayer hymn
* 80 ""Alleluia!""
* Child sings everyone is duty bound to ""recognize and serve"" God
* 73 ""Onwards To Further Victories In The Works Of The Church""
* Lecture hymn, some stuff about INC vs world
* 83 ""To The Father Always Pray""
* Lecture hymn, teaches kids how to pray, ends with ""In the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ""
* 7 ""I Am Truly Blessed""
* Child says they are blessed, will remain obedient/pure, be a faithful member
Caught a bit of the lesson, something about how the Israelites followed Moses following God's commands and didn't get the plagues and stuff. Way to teach four year olds the Westboro Baptist Church way, people have bad things happen? Whatever, they deserved it, go to hell.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,Ano po lesson?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,"Ironically they mentioned the 1st god’s commandment that is to respect your “parents”, how does it measure up with EVM? Clowns as always!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,"A few weeks ago the minister said, *""But brother, I don't want to micromanage my kids""*
Then went on to scare the parents. Brainwashed parents are forced to use it to micromanage their children forever out of pure fear. It's disgusting.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,"Exactly, they need trapped members so the bank account in Cayman Island will regularly receive income 🤮🤮🤮",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,I am Manalo of Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,Tungkulin nating mga Cristiano na Igalang at Sundin ang ating mga magulang sa Panginoon.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 19 - Jun 22, 2021)",o36n7y,2021-06-18,Funneh in-expell ni EVM mother nya.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o36n7y/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_19_jun_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,"They tell us not to be complacent, meaning living our lives. That wouldn't be profitable to the Manalos.
They tell us to give offering, find converts, attend brainwashing sessions, attend those cult activities, self-brainwash then kiss the church admin's ass some more as ordered by Lord Eduardo V. Manalo.
Our all loving, merciful and benevolent God will forget all of the righteous things you've done if you ever stop doing those mentioned above even for a day. (That means eternal torture for you in the lake of fire by the ever loving and merciful God because INC thinks only in black and white)
INC and their imaginary Doomsday fantasies again. No wonder they're full of miserable fanatical members who have nothing else to do in life except pester other people and wreck their day or evening. All for the sake reaching some fairytale land full of Filipinos.
It sucks big time that these types of brainwashing techniques still works on these members.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,"Once again the INC has brainwashed its members to listen to its Ministers (2 of them) to put the Administration and Manalo cherry picked verses to claim its own Gospel. The preaching that they say that “Through the Administration/Manalo love”, (NoT Jesus Christ’s LOVE) but the Administration/Manalo’s love. Hopefully the members of the INC will read the Holy Bible and see that Jesus Christ’s love is unconditional no matter what! Hopefully the INC members will reach that Light of Love that Jesus Christ has for all of us and not a MEMBERSHIP status that can be taken away. TAKEN AWAY people, when Jesus Christ’s love is unconditional. The only way I can guide you to be truly saved is to watch LJ Caraang’s YouTube videos. LJ is the best source of Bible study that goes against the INC Administration/Manalo preaching. Watch LJ’s video and read the Holy Bible, he’s the one way of analyzing how the INC has manipulated the Holy Gospel and how the INC has become what money hungry Devils they are. To the members of the INC (and I know in the Philippines it’ll be difficult) please read the Bible and watch LJ’s YouTube videos. Imagine people Gods free Will is for you to read the Holy Bible and examine it, you as an individual (Body) is the Temple not the TOXIC cherry picked verses of the Manalo preaching.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,"Fell asleep and its probably the most restful sleep I got. I'll rate it 8/10. I think the lesson was about natural disasters and Christ's second coming and how 99% of the ""saved"" human race will be brown Asians. Eh, I really don't remember much. Shows how important the church's lessons are to me, just endless screaming by the minister.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,"Lesson is to don't be complacent.
Don't be complacent with just simply being a member. Same end of the times Jesus Christ is coming any day now fearmongering spiel, famines, earthquakes, pestilences, so be more active and involved with the church. Minister made sure to promote the upcoming thanksgiving anniversary encouraging members to strive to give more to EVM's bank account. Once again they shit talked striving hard to become something in this world that we should focus all our efforts on our membership
Lesson is just recycled garbage we've heard countless times.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,"Its the same garbage INC cult lesson again and again. The end is near because of wars, famines, earthquakes, sickness, calamities, blah and blah. These are already happening even before the birth of Christ (for God's sake!) and is used by the cult ministers as scare tactic to its members to submit to the cult administration in order to be saved - to obey and never complain, to participate in activities, and abundant offerings.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,"The amount of scare tactic used is honestly laughable at this point. And again, the same recycled bs. I wonder how OWEs don't realize all of the lessons are just being recycled over and over again.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,"From the reports here for months....they wonder why they have such an issue with mental health, depression, suicidal thoughts? They are so damn ""gloom and doom"" that how can anyone feel happy and fulfilled with their lives? Basically, you were put on this earth to fear being thrown into the lake of fire. Is this some sort of a test how much a person can be manipulated and then die? How is that a meaningful life? You are suppose to be happy that the Manalos came to earth to give you some duties and save you? None of it makes sense. None at all. If God exists, I highly doubt this was the way it was meant to be.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,I didn't even attended this week's service 'cuz I know they'll only repeat last week's lessons...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,"I know someone did this before, but shoutout to u/kadpreschoirsectsv ! I miss your comments on this",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,Ano po lesson?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,ayan ayan,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,"Hi Encrypted,
I like how they said, ""brown Asians"" will be saved. That means **this INC religion is really a ""racial religious cultic sect""** just like I told everyone in a post months ago.
**\*God took great care in making each of us. We were all made in his image, and nothing about us is an accident. We are each specially designed, made exactly the way God intended. In Matthew 10:30, Jesus says, “And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.” The smallest detail matters to God even more than it does to us! Should it surprise us then that God cares about every aspect of our lives, including where we come from or the color of our skin?**
For everyone to know, the INC only knows that **""Narrow-minded Mindset""** **that is not biblical** and that is truly leading them to not understanding what the Bible truly says! The **Manalo's are racial bigots if they think being of another color was a mistake.**
**God never makes mistakes!!!**
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,"They always talk about how bad the world is, but the world is much better than in the past. Before there was no medicine, no electricity, no human rights, etc. For most of history the average life expectancy was only about 30 years.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,Soo...nothing meaningful as usual 🙄..,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,"Some of them do, but they're glad about the ""reminders""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,They didnt really say thay but looking at most of the church's population being mostly made up of brown asians(Filipino) I think thats what they meant when the church is the only way to be saved.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,Yet they called our time now as wicked world???!!! Stupidity at its finest!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 23 - Jun 25, 2021)",o643q8,2021-06-22,"Hi Encrypted,
**They really did say that my friend...** It does not matter what race the church's population consists of.
**(Please do not believe this heretic belief, for it is NOT in the Bible)**
I remember when I was a member, the Iglesia ni Cristo Minister said one worship service being, **""Filipino's were a better race than all other races.**
God would never put one's person race above another for he said, **""we are all special in his eyes.""**
Young Offenheimer
**P.S. That day I heard that message from the minister, I took my attendance card broke it in two pieces and put it in the minister's shirt pocket! The minister had a tear in his eyes, for he knew what the administration was trying to communicate to all 98% Filipino members back then. Plus he knew I also understood their racial smear against all races in the world!!!**
**(I quit with a very good reason)**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,They talk about not having the right to criticise the officers and administration and not speak to expelled members. Like wtf?? Talk about eroding our rights to civil discourse and essentially stifling any sort of examination in their practises? Not to mention removing any chance of a proper debate. Back them into a wall and they scream persecution,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,More bullshit,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,"Its so stupid that they use Acts 20:28 Lamsa to prove that they are the true church. Every other translation says church of God, and the Lamsa version is not even translated from Greek.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,"Acts 20:28 - tick
Matthew 16:18 - tick
Oh and another headcount July 27th",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,"First part of the lesson is all about INC is the true church as they build up to Acts 20:28 LAMSA. I’ve noticed that they don’t bother to mention which translation is being used for verses nowadays and minister did not cite which translation of Acts 20:28 was being used.
Acts 20:28 Lamsa ❌Church of Christ? ✅church of Christ
INC is using an abomination of a translation and are intentionally lying to its members that “Church of Christ” is in the Bible when it’s really the phrase “church of Christ"" which only occurs ONCE in Lamsa. Plus Lamsa was published two decades after Felix Manaloko, a messenger of the Devil, registered his business. Unfortunately, this simple truth fails to reach members because the Bible is a mystery and only ministers can interpret it and EVM + administration keeps reminding everyone that internet is bad.
Second half of the lesson is about watching your tongue and to not speak up or criticize the administration. Minister mentioned not to gossip, which is hilarious considering that’s what INC members are guilty off whenever they gather together outside of church and even inside church. Minister went on and on about not broadcasting disputes outside the church, keep it within the church, bring problems to locale leadership/ministers.
Of course if someone does speak up against the church, INC wants you to disown them completely, even if they are your literal family…
Hmmm, what else do I remember about the worshit service. As usual, majority of members don’t sing hymns or answer in prayer lol. Ughh It irks me whenever the minister spontaneously speaks a phrase in Tagalog in the middle of an English WS not a Filipino church though 🤡Our minister also addressed our nonexistent guests lol “if we have any guests here…” cmon dude, we can’t even get a single guest for bible studies 90% of the time 😂",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,"I just wanted to shout out u/KadPresChoirSecTsv
Hope you’re doing well, I miss your posts (I know someone else did this before)
I didn’t know my comment on the other one was approved, apologies for the double comment/ping.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,"Disappointed but not suprised when they used that Acts 20:28 Lamsa once again to prove that INC is the one being referred to by the bible as the ""one true church"". Come on INC, is that one and only evidence you really have?
I'm not even using my tongue to write ""lies"" like this so its safe to say that I'm doing a pretty good job of securing my tongue. How about those guilt tripping oppressive bastards in INC?
I never thought ""God's peace"" would feel so dreadful and terrorizing. No thanks, I just want my own version of ""peace"".
What do they know about being at peace anyway? They keep looking for new enemies! Where's the peace in that?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,"Here we go again with these young preachers of The INC Administration talking about Jesus Christ when they don’t even preach his GOSPEL. They say Jesus Christ’s name but NEVER one bit explain any of Jesus’s Gospel. It’s truly sad my friends that the members of the INC are hoping on “The Administration”, to save them with MEMBERSHIP. “The only way to God is through Jesus Christ”, it’s in the Bible. “Jesus Christ is the way, the TRUTH, and the Life! It’s in the Bible. NOT Membership!!!! Another way the toxic manipulation of words that INC teaches to its young preachers who don’t really know the Holy Bible and are brainwashed! Hopefully a INC minister or member can see this post to examine the scriptures that I’ve mentioned and be enlightened by its “WORDS”.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,Reading through the comments and all I can say is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1qju6V1jLM&ab\_channel=ZMOONCHILDlive,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,Ano po lesson?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,"I think my minister's going a bit crazy, somehow threw anxiety/depression shaming into the lesson. Also something about invalidating your faith with things like gossip or cursing. ~~Fuck, there I'm now invalid :)~~
**But here's a bit of the CWS:**
Stuff about how Moses split the red sea and God killed the Egyptians to instill holy fear into his people. *Gotta instill the fear in early!* As for the hymns...
* 29 ""Prepare Ourselves To Worship"" (formerly 246 ""Father Receive me"")
* Old version of this hymn used to sing of loving God, now it's begging for forgiveness
* *Why did all these hymns for children have to turn from love to fear?*
* 4 ""We Worship You, LORD""
* More pleading to God to never leave, never forsake duty
* 13 ""His Young Chosen Ones"" (formerly 251 ""Jesus Loves The Little Chosen Ones"")
* Never leave the church, only offered children are saved
* 60 ""Our Election, We Must Truly Love""
* Lecture hymn, obey administration/messenger, fulfill duties
* 22 ""I Entrust To You My Life"" (Formerly 27 ""I Place My Life In Your Hands"")
* Obedience, portrays world as wicked and dangerous, pleading to never leave the church
* 63 ""Carefully Guard In Our Hearts""
* lecture hymn, complete obedience
I don't believe anymore, but imagine Christ coming down while INC is scaring these children into obedience with their ""worship."" It's funny imagining his reaction.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,">Oh and another headcount July 27th
It doesn't matter because they will lie and inflate their numbers. My family and I left in 2018 and yet, to some miracle and magic, we're still there and accounted for, WOW. I know several exmembers who left many years ago are still being counted as members.
I also know several dead members who are still being counted as contributing members in the cult. Hmmm, didn't realized dead people could do those! 🤔🙄",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,why a headcount again? *Scare* people into attending the 'more-abundant-offering' cult service?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,"Their next solution will be for members to each grow a second head! (Darn, I think I just gave the admin an idea!!!)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,"Has been inactive for 10 days so I say he or she is probably gone or have some family issue, but more likely church issues too. Maybe they were caught who knows?. So yeah, no more hymn and verse recaps.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,hell yeah baby,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,>That's why they have the guts to trample on the rights of others. They are pretty confident that they are saved because they are member of INC. They see the non-INC member as demon or a thing.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 26 - Jun 29, 2021)",o82gdl,2021-06-25,"Oh, well, I hope they are alright.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,"**Foreword**
Thank you to u/The_E_in_Ree for your shoutouts on the [previous](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o643q8/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_23_jun_25/h2xpax5?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) [WS discussions](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/h3643ji?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)! I have been doing well, just coping with a mixture of laziness and getting accustomed to an ever-changing schedule ~~(plus I'm trying to throw off any ministers or watchdogs lurking through this sub)~~. In response to u/ppc633's comment [last weekend](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o82gdl/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_26_jun_29/h3d79pv?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), I haven't been caught (yet!), and I hope to continue my hymn and verse recaps to the best of my ability. ~~(Hopefully I can at least remain undercover until the day INC may dissipate!)~~
My preacher withheld all translations of the verses used, but (for reasons that are probably better kept secret) that didn't stop me. For the links that include multiple verses, I linked to the full chapter for the sake of context and readability, and most sites (sans BibleGateway, possibly others) only allow either that or a separate link for each verse.
Without further ado...
**Overview**
* The meaning and importance of our being members of the Church of Christ *~~(this ought to be fun...)~~*
* Deadly Themes: Intensive Propagation (brief), Don't Leave the INC (implicit)
**Verses**
* [1 Corinthians 12:12, 27 (Weymouth)](https://newchristianbiblestudy.org/bible/weymouth-nt/1-corinthians/12/)
* [Acts 20:28 (Lamsa)](https://www.studylight.org/bible/eng/glt/acts/20-28.html) *~~(bangs head into wall)~~*
* [Hebrews 9:14 (Easy-to-Read)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%209%3A14&version=ERV)
* [Ephesians 3:6 (Last Days Bible)](https://lastdaysbible.org/Ephesians.html) *\[see page 4 of the PDF\]*
* [Deuteronomy 10:12-13 (God's Word)](https://www.biblestudytools.com/gw/deuteronomy/10.html)
* [Psalms 103:17-18 (Contemporary English Version)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+103&version=CEV)
* [Isaiah 2:3 (Translation for Translators)](https://ebible.org/t4t/ISA02.htm)
* *This verse includes mentions of* ""Yahweh,"" *but INC only recognizes the Tetragrammaton,* ""YHWH.""
* [Titus 2:12 (Easy English)](https://www.easyenglish.bible/bible/easy/titus/2/)
* [Titus 2:13(a) (Easy English)](https://www.easyenglish.bible/bible/easy/titus/2/)
* [Hebrews 12:22-23(a) (The Remedy New Testament)](https://comeandreason.com/rem/readbible.php?version=rem&book=Hebrews&chapter=12)
* [Isaiah 65:17-19 (Expanded Bible)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+65&version=EXB)
* [Matthew 6:33 (Plain English Translation)](https://door43.org/u/DokuWiki/en_pet/master/#040-ch-006)
* [Psalm 106:4-5 (EXB)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalms+106&version=EXB)
**Hymns**
* 14: ""Lord God, We Thank You""
* 162: ""Let Us Serve Him""
* includes a lyric about not being offended
* 54: ""Our Worship Service""
* obvious lecture hymn
* 263: ""This Worship That We Offer to You""
* This just seems like a really distorted remnant of its pre-2013 revision. (Aren't they all?)
* 276: ""My Almighty God, I Now Draw Near to You""
* 80: ""It Is Our Duty to Share"" *~~(Obvious title is obvious!)~~*
* 127: ""Giving Thanks with an Offering""
* would-be offertory this month
* ""This is my duty,"" ""I will not forget,"" this-that-and-the-other, …
* includes a lyric about ""freewill offering,"" but we all know how INC truly feels about offering...
* 294: ""We Must Defend Our Election"" *~~(...need I say more?)~~*
* For those wondering, I don't yet have access to the July lineup. Hopefully within the next 24 hours I can get my hands on it and share it with all interested/in need!
Edit: Added a witticism",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,"I'm getting lazy to post my thoughts about the lesson because it's just recycled anyways. INC is always feeling important. People need INC? Lol, #StopOffering, let's see if this is true anymore.
Btw, the lesson title is: Ang Kahulugan at Kahalagahan ng ating pagiging kaanib sa Iglesia ni Cristo
Own translation: The meaning and importance of our membership in Church of Christ",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,Funny they always say the administrator works so hard as if they barely sleep. Then you wonder what the hell they actually do since all the lessons are the same.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,It's pathetic that they cherry pick the translations that say church of Christ.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,Thank you so much!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,Good to see your post again. I was getting worried - just like the others - when we didn’t see your post.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,I am so glad that I left. I don't know how members could regurgitate this recycled garbage over and over.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,Ah its the same lesson where people should prioritize the church instead of their own lives.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,The broken vinyl “acts 20:28” was played yet again! WTF to that!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,A recycled bullshit that is being fed again and again to the already 'well fed of bullshit' members. And that process is called brainwashing. Need I say more?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,"You are not alone (judging by my own 2-week absence from these WS discussions)! One WS after another is just ""eMbRaCe YoUr CaLliNg,"" just nuanced ever so slightly. It's like the admin is trying to set yet another world record, this time I guess for ""Most Repetitions of a Single Lesson.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,Watch LJ Caraangs YouTube videos. He explains it best on how the INC manipulates it’s members,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,They probably spend much of the day counting their money💰…then the rest of the day is spent wondering why the money is not as much as it was this time last year 📉,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,EXACTLY!!!! That’s why their members are all brainwashed and programmed like robots on the repetitive preaching. Once again they say Jesus Christ’s name but never preach his gospel. They’ve replaced Jesus Christ’s gospel for the anniversary of the Church. Sickening to believe they preach that members must submit to the Church Administration when in the Holy Bible doesn’t say any sort of submitting to any administrator. Hopefully the INC members can see the light and know the Gospel of Jesus Christ and get out of the darkness they are in🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,"They're busy cutting and pasting-recycling same activities. And I'm sure this goes without saying about their boring lessons.
I think they're busy harassing members to give more money and bring those fantasy converts. I wish they would just admit that their plans are never going to happen. They have a better chance of getting hit by lighting than actually making their narcissist leader smile.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,"Yes, INC will do anything to keep its believers believing!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,I can see INC members reading the Holy Bible in the future. They will see the light and get out of the darkness they are in.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,You are most welcome‼️,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,"Iglesia Ni Cherry-picking.
Acts 20:28 Lamsa translation pa more! Basa!
""Ingatan ninyo kung gayon ang inyong mga sarili at ang buong kawan na
rito’y hinirang kayo ng Espiritu Santo upang maging mga katiwala, upang pakanin (Pakinggan niyo!) ang IGLESIA NI CRISTO--""
Ano yun?
""Ang Iglesia Ni Cristo!""
Pakinggan niyo!
""Ang Iglesia Ni Cristo!""
Tuloy!
""Na binili niya ng kanyang dugo!""
So sick of hearing INC read that verse.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,"Acts 20:28 Lamsa, oh yes! ..... you must feed the church of Christ that was purchased with his blood. Will never forget that one!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,"Couldn't agree more. Welcome back, btw! 🙂",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,You would think the repetition brainwashes people but I think it does the opposite. Personally I tune it out and start thinking wtf is the point of this. I agree also that church intention is not to worship God or Jesus but pretty much to worship itself and the administration. Sins can be forgiven but don't you dare go against the admin.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,"This is so ROTFLMAO hilarious, and 'I just wet my pants' funny!
I bet after reading that, they'd stick their chest out from being so proud.
Fucking half-wit imbeciles.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,"Sounds like gluttony to me. It reminds me of a town whose residents complain a lot because they aren't getting enough financial help from their government. The government officials were shocked about this so they went there to investigate. Come to find out, majority of the residents are obese that the government officials concluded they are just full of shit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,"''Feed the church of Christ''
So that's the basis of the greed/gluttony? 😉",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,Thank you so much!! Hope all has been well :D,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 30 - Jul 02, 2021)",oao2cp,2021-06-29,"That’s another way of of seeing the true intentions of the INC/Administration’s goal. They use Jesus Christ’s and Gods name to manipulate their members, and use “Membership” as a Gods given right which is a TOXIC teaching that their brainwashed members fall for",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oao2cp/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_30_jul_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,"**Overview**
* Who Shall Be Saved? Who Shall Be Destroyed? (actual title is much longer)
* Deadly Theme: Don't Leave the INC
**Verses**
* [Psalm 91:14-16 NET](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2091%3A14-16&version=NET)
* [Psalm 44:18 NET](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+44%3A18&version=NET)
* [I Thessalonians 5:3-5 TEV](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I+Thessalonians+5%3A3-5&version=GNT)
* [Bible Gateway](https://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Good-News-Translation-GNT-Bible/) claims the GNT was once called the TEV; furthermore, attempting to search with TEV yielded no meaningful results except for links to GNT.
* [Philippians 2:15 NET](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+2%3A15&version=NET)
* [Hebrews 2:3 TEV](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+2%3A3&version=GNT)
* [Hebrews 6:11 NIRV](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+6%3A11&version=NIRV) & [12 TEV](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+6%3A12&version=GNT)
* [Hebrews 6:11 EXB](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+6%3A11&version=EXB)
* [Romans 12:11 NIV](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+12%3A11&version=NIV)
* [I John 3:14-15 NIV](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I+John+3%3A14-15&version=NIV)
* [I John 4:20-21 NIV](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I+John+4%3A20-21&version=NIV)
* [I Peter 4:7 GNT](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I+Peter+4%3A7&version=GNT) & [8 CEV](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I+Peter+4%3A8&version=CEV)
* [Psalm 16:1, 5, 11 TEV](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+16%3A1%2C5%2C11&version=GNT)
* [Psalm 106:4-5, 47 TEV](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+106%3A4-5%2C47&version=GNT)
**Hymns**
* 235: ""I Thank You, Father, for My Life and Strength""
* includes a part where the singer sings that s/he remains in the church
* 38: ""Praise Our Father""
* includes a part where the singer rejoices in his/her remaining in the church
* 141: ""We Need Perfect Love""
* lecture hymn
* 220: ""Soon Christ Will Return""
* another lecture hymn
* Also this was just sung recently (17 June 2021 to be exact).
* 191: ""Lord Jesus, Watch over Me"" *(Because I misplaced my copy of this hymn, the title may be inexact.)*
* Nitpick: Is it just me, or do they play this hymn very slowly nowadays? It already seems long enough as it is (3 lengthy stanzas plus a coda)!
* 273: ""Receive in Your Heart""
* lecture hymn
* 294: ""We Must Defend Our Election""
* lecture/""stay in the church"" hymn
**Other Comments and Observations**
* INC: ""Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him"" ([I John 3:15 NIV](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I+John+3%3A15&version=NIV)).
* Also INC: ""Oh, EVM? He does not hate anyone, especially not his own family! He is not and never will be a murderer! In fact, he loves the church so much! He does so much for the church that we cannot begin to name the things he does for it!""
* This lesson appears to have been outlined by EVM himself. If that's so, why doesn't he attempt to prove he isn't a murderer? Or at least admit he is one by his own logic? I'll tell you why: he knows the very nanosecond he does either action, he will justify the thoughts of the so-called detractors!
* I'm not sure if this counts for the Deadly Themes, but the administration was mentioned (to no one's surprise).
* How many times just this year has the lesson mentioned something about work and/or school? Does INC mean what it says when it claims nothing is wrong about pursuing a livelihood and/or an education?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,"A bunch of bollocks. The lessons are recycled, repeated over and over again so what you'll see is a buncha members hypnotized trying their best to stay awake through their masks and faceshields. They're just waiting for the lesson to end.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,"The minister said:
""Bawal plastikan sa ating magkakapatid""
Me: if thats the case, i will not even bother talking to anyone because some of them are toxic type person that i should avoid talking to.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,"""The end is near...er! Will you live in Manalo paradise as a slave or die in a fire?"" - INC
Judgement day is coming again they say.
Intensive renewal of life, Intensive propagation (I personally hate hearing about this campaign the most) and offer ""VOLUNTARILY"" again.
Love your fellow INCs! That's actually something nice to hear. The problem is they think that guilt tripping us, driving us with fear and controlling our lives is an act of love so forget it, I love being free more.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,"🥱Same recycled the end is near BS. It’s not enough to simply be a member, you gotta obey God’s/EVM’s and the administration’s will to be saved. At one point of the lesson they focus on loving the brotherhood. Minister was reading verses from John Chapter 4 about loving your brother. If you don’t love your brother you don’t love god, which is hypocritical coming from INC considering the fact EVM jailed his own brother indefinitely
Every single lesson is just rehashes over and over but EVM supposedly labors day and night for us lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,Anyone else notice how all the lessons since that Joe V thread argument between brethren are about loving the brotherhood?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,"Some people out there (what is called the sanlibutan) don't have a clue as to what others are going through with their lives. Simply because they did not have to go through or never have to experience stuff like ours in their lives to begin with. So therefore they cannot relate. To them it's maybe just a normal matter. For us, it's fucking life or death. Bluntly speaking, they don't have the slightest clue about what members of exINC are going through.
But we can only be strong and fight the good fight.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,"\>Does INC mean what it says when it claims nothing is wrong about pursuing a livelihood and/or an education?
You need an education or a livelihood in order to give money back to INC
Hence why they also emphasize that the willingly unemployed and lazy will go to hell",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,"I zoned out during the AWS, noticed CWS just makes the kids read a huge block of text with a bible story, then asks questions. I don't think a 4 year old should be reading that much.
**CWS Hymns**
* 26 ""We Are Calling To You"" (Formerly 265 ""Hear Me Father"")
* Old version asked for God to love and listen to his child... but now the child's singing... *""And don't punish us, we plead""*
* O\_o what happened, what are these children doing?
* 1 ""We Should be Holy"" (formerly 249)
* lecture hymn
* child is trained, obedient
* *""Trained to always follow All the laws of our dear LORD* *~~EVM~~**""*
* 17 ""If We Truly Love Lord Jesus Christ""
* lecture hymn
* avoid & keep away from sin/wickedness
* forever serve, never betray Christ
* 9 ""Abound In Our Faith, Love, And Hope""
* lecture hymn
* lyrics mention ""remain in the CHURCH OF CHRIST""
* 21 ""Our Salvation Is Assured""
* lecture hymn
* mentions remaining in the church, also this line
* ""Here, In the CHURCH OF CHRIST, the true fold""
* 35 ""The End Is Drawing Near"" (formerly 266 ""Salvation Surely Is At Hand"")
* Lecture hymn...
* almost the end of the evil world
* surprisingly no mention of staying in the church
* 51 ""As We Go Home"" (Formerly 260)
* lecture hymn
* mentions Church of Christ
So we have children as young as 4 years old pleading to not be punished for their mistakes and the rest of the hymns are lecture. 1 and 21 are pretty common, then again CWS hymns are very repetitive since there's under 100.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,">Nitpick: Is it just me, or do they play this hymn very slowly nowadays? It already seems long enough as it is (3 lengthy stanzas plus a coda)!
Most the recorded hymns sounded a little fast, but hearing a few (like 191) slow sounded weird. Wonder if they're trying to make it longer to emotionally manipulate brethren. Also the title's accurate.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,"How can the INC/Administration love the brotherhood when their so called leader Eranyo disown his own mother and relatives. This is a fine example of the true LIE that the INC preaches. Jesus Christ’s Love is unconditional, no matter what you do or say Jesus’s LOVE will always be there. The “membership” that the church of INC preaches totally brainwashed it’s followers. The “Thanksgiving” that the INC preaches from this weeks service is a total money scheme. The fact that they pray for GOD to bless the money for their own Boasting of the church is very unchristian like. The members don’t even know the truth because of the toxic preaching and envy of the properties that the INC owns. I hope and pray that the INC members see the scheme and manipulation that the Administration use’s to manipulate them. If any true members of the Iglesia ni Christo ever read this please ask yourself this....why is Eranyo Manalo and his family live a very lavish lifestyle when the members of the INC struggle through hardships???",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,What’s the background story on Joe V?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,There are a lot of double whammy's in INCatch22,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,"Yeah they say that, then they actively encourage you to not accept promotions at work or take time off to study if it affects your duties/attendance.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,"A few weeks ago Joey V posted something on FB and these two members started arguing. One was going on about how stupid and uneducated Rauff is and the other was talking about not hating on anyone, not even their enemies.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,"I see Joey V has begun publicly attacking the Catholic Church again. Pretty freaking laughable when everything he says is going on in the INCult as well!
And also, these places of worship ""dedicated to God""...umm...why do you have to dedicate your place of worship? Isnt that what it was for in the first place? lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 03 - Jul 06, 2021)",ocpn2h,2021-07-02,👍🏽,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ocpn2h/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_03_jul_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 07 - Jul 09, 2021)",ofabsk,2021-07-06,"People of this world have no hope. People of this world won’t be saved because they’re not INC. Minister reads cherry picked verse from Ephesians, inserting false INC context, “btw Apostle Paul is speaking to the church of Christ”
More INC out of context reading with the Isaiah 43:5-6 ends of the earth Philippines WW1 Felix Manaloko prophecy scam.
That’s all I could recall since I kept blanking out because the lesson was so mind numbingly boring and repetitive. Same shit, different day.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ofabsk/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_07_jul_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 07 - Jul 09, 2021)",ofabsk,2021-07-06,"Imagine saying to your friends and family who are not INC that they have no God. Oh yes, that's how cruel INC is.
Lesson for today: Ang Malaking Kahigtan natin sa mga taga sanlibutan kahit nakararanas din tayo ng iba't ibang suliranin sa buhay
Own translation: Our greatest difference with non-INC people even though we also experience problems in life",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ofabsk/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_07_jul_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 07 - Jul 09, 2021)",ofabsk,2021-07-06,"It's stupid how they say Isaiah 43:5-6 refers to INC, you only have to read the verses before to see that it is refering to Israel.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ofabsk/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_07_jul_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 07 - Jul 09, 2021)",ofabsk,2021-07-06,"Going to miss this one
England v Denmark is more important",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ofabsk/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_07_jul_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 07 - Jul 09, 2021)",ofabsk,2021-07-06,Fell asleep but heard the minister talking about why members should not visit social media sites(reddit) and believe people here where we shouldn't give offerings or give less offerings and why we should go cold. After that I fell asleep again.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ofabsk/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_07_jul_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 07 - Jul 09, 2021)",ofabsk,2021-07-06,"**Overview**
* Topic: Our great advantage over the people of this world even though we also experience various problems in life
* Deadly Theme: Don't Leave the INC
* Propagation was mentioned in the introduction if that counts.
**Verses**
* [Ephesians 2:12 (GW)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+2%3A12&version=GW)
* [Proverbs 1:26-28 (NIV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+1%3A26-28&version=NIV)
* [Ephesians 2:12 (T4T)](https://ebible.org/t4t/EPH02.htm) *\[link leads to full chapter\]*
* [I John 5:19 (NIV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I+John+5%3A19&version=NIV)
* [Isaiah 43:5-6 (NKJV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+43%3A5-6&version=NKJV)
* [I Peter 5:7 (GNT)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I+Peter+5%3A7&version=GNT)
* [Psalm 34:8, 4, 9 (TLB)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+34%3A8%2C+4%2C+9&version=TLB)
* [Job 4:5-6 (NIRV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+4%3A5-6&version=NIRV)
* [Psalm 34:17, 19 (NKJV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+34%3A17%2C+19&version=NKJV)
* [Hebrews 10:38 (NIV)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+10%3A38&version=NIV)
* [Jeremiah 17:7-8 (AMPC)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah+17%3A7-8&version=AMPC)
*For the hymns and my commentary on them, please see* [*here*](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/of0h7o/july_2021_lineups/h49gz0f?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)*.*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ofabsk/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_07_jul_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 07 - Jul 09, 2021)",ofabsk,2021-07-06,"JESUS CHRIST saves, SAVE’S!!! NOT IGLESIA NI CHRISTO’s Administration, not EVM/Eranyo, Felix, Eduardo Manalo, and not MEMBERSHIP in the INC. JESUS CHRIST is the saver, he is the way, the truth, and the life, only through Jesus Christ my friends. In order to know GOD you must know Jesus Christ, not a MEMBERSHIP. PLEASE, PLEASE people of the Iglesia Ni Christo read and study the Bible you are all brainwashed by the MANALO Administration LIE.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ofabsk/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_07_jul_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 07 - Jul 09, 2021)",ofabsk,2021-07-06,"Paulit- ulit na turo, malaking kahigitan ng INC sa mga taong nasa sanlibutan, ang INC lang ang may Dios! Self proclaimed! Baka nga sa araw ng paghuhukom sila pala ang tinutukoy na ""hindi ko kayo nakikilala"" tinanggi sila ni Jesus-Christ at sila pala yung mga ""manggagawa ng katampalasanan""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ofabsk/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_07_jul_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 07 - Jul 09, 2021)",ofabsk,2021-07-06, *~~People of this world won’t be saved because they’re not INC~~* *People of this world won't be saved because they're not giving God-Emperor Manalo their money.*,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ofabsk/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_07_jul_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 07 - Jul 09, 2021)",ofabsk,2021-07-06,Bring on the weekend. Got a nasty feeling about Sunday's lesson.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ofabsk/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_07_jul_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,"Minister starts off telling us that people in this world are struggling financially and in looking for a job. I recall the minister telling us how people try to save up money on this world, which does not matter because this world is temporary and we should instead focus our hopes and efforts on INC and salvation.
Lesson also puts emphasis on “finishing the race” and recruiting people to INC. I remember after reading a cherry picked verse about finishing the race, the minister tells us to deny ourselves of opportunities in order to finish the race.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,"Had the best position in WS today.
Behind a great big pillar.
Could not see anything.
Had a snooze.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,"**Overview**
* Topic: Let Us Redouble Our Efforts in Obeying God So We Will Receive the Glorious Things in Heaven
* Deadly Themes: Detractors, Propagation, Don't Leave the INC, The Administration
**Verses**
* [Colossians 3:15 EXP](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+3%3A15&version=EXB) & [2 PET](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+3%3A15&version=EXB)
* [II Corinthians 4:17(b) T4T](https://ebible.org/t4t/2CO04.htm)
* [Philippians 3:13-14 ETRV2006](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+3%3A13-14&version=ERV) & [16 EE](https://www.easyenglish.bible/bible/easy/philippians/3/)
* [Phil. 2:12 LDB](https://lastdaysbible.org/Philippians.html) *\[page 3 of PDF\]*
* [I Corinthians 9:24-27 TLB](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I+Cor.+9%3A24-27&version=TLB)
* [I Corinthians 9:23 T4T](https://ebible.org/t4t/1CO09.htm) & [16 GW](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I+Cor.+9%3A16&version=GW)
* [Phil. 3:20-21 NLT](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Phil.+3%3A20-21&version=NLT)
* [II Corinthians 4:8-9 & 16-18 MSG](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=II+Cor.+4%3A8-9%2C+16-18&version=MSG)
* [II Tim. 4:6-8 NOG](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=II+Tim.+4%3A6-8&version=NOG)
*For the hymns, please see* [*here*](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/of0h7o/july_2021_lineups/h49gz0f?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)*.*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,"Sucks to be an INC member.. those who are being invited on pamamahayag / bible studies, please just decline. It's not enough to become an INC member.. when you don't do your part to propagate ""His"" words, you will still not attain salvation. Ah yeah, that's what I learned from this week's worship service.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,Slept through the whole WS. No one noticed.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,"Also, I noticed that Hymn no. 50 seemed to have a faster tempo now. Been choir member for years and I think it changed. Also goes with Hymn No. 7 which feels like a lullaby now. What the heck is going on? Or is it just me. 🤔",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,"Basically heard ""your problems are small"" and turned my ears off.
**CWS Hymns**
Working on something with an overview of all 97 CWS hymns that I'll post later, but as for this week...
* 30 ""Please Listen As We Call""
* Formerly 270 ""Oh We Thank You""
* Typical CWS prayer hymn where the child begs for mercy
* 3 ""Never Forsake The Worship Service""
* Formerly 255
* Lecture hymn
* Mentions duty and living sacrifice
* ~~Imagine your 4 year old and all their friends singing that they're a living sacrifice.~~
* 10 ""God Has A Messenger In These Last Days""
* Lecture hymn
* Mention of messenger, duty, Church of Christ
* Never leave the church
* 86 ""It Was Jesus Christ Who Built The Church In The Far East""
* Lecture hymn...
* Mentions messenger, never leave the church, INC is the only true church
* 19 ""O Our Father""
* Submission hymn
* Formerly 256 ""I Call On You""
* Any mention of love is gone
* Never leave the church
* Child pleads for their mistakes and asks to be trained
* 42 ""Follow All Of His Commands
* Formerly 372 ""Follow Every Word""
* Any mention of love is gone
* Lecture hymn, again.
* Obedience",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,"[Forrest Gump Finds Religion](https://youtu.be/Oc_JXiRanlI)
[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M612yJ1epB6QcpwD781Vqfyay8vFLyNJPG5KqQ7Sy3I/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M612yJ1epB6QcpwD781Vqfyay8vFLyNJPG5KqQ7Sy3I/edit?usp=sharing)
[https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw6lgc1KBLb0WFp0Q0c5Qko5TkE/view?usp=sharing&resourcekey=0-Yxmk1H17Y2AqiGhsKcCzWg](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw6lgc1KBLb0WFp0Q0c5Qko5TkE/view?usp=sharing&resourcekey=0-Yxmk1H17Y2AqiGhsKcCzWg)
[https://www.change.org/p/flowery-branch-community-lldm-proposes-to-flood-our-community-will-we-be-paying-for-it?use\_react=false&v2=false](https://www.change.org/p/flowery-branch-community-lldm-proposes-to-flood-our-community-will-we-be-paying-for-it?use_react=false&v2=false)
""Welcome to Shawshank Hay County Jail, Mr. Ogle"" - Hays County Jail Supervisor Omar Romero who chose Steroids over a badge, for Christ's Sake after Ogle's concerns ""gone wild"".
Guess who's next? Those who fell on Ogle after his latest ""sweet potato fry speck"" ""assault by contact"" criminal charge ""victimizing"" Gary Clark Jr's HOA bff President's son Richard Parsons who chunked Ogle's cellphone in a field for daring to take a cellphone pic of his license plate after Jr refused to identify himself.
[https://youtu.be/accOHNw\_qX8](https://youtu.be/accOHNw_qX8)
[https://www.toddbensman.com/light-of-the-wrld-church-la-luz-del-mundo/](https://www.toddbensman.com/light-of-the-world-church-la-luz-del-mundo/)
My law office has had problems with process servers nearly being attacked attempting to serve Benjamin Joaquin. One problem was that Bennie moved to Seattle which led to us firing our private investigator who didn't update his LLDM ministry 2-year shuffle.
Eminem - Lose Yourself (Remix) 2Pac, The Notorious OG.LE., Method Man, Ice Cube, Eazy-E, Dr. Dawg https://youtu.be/KB9dso-h\_Es
Ruff Notes
From: Scott Ogle soglelaw@peoplepc.com
To: AnonymousMex
We need your help serving subpoenas now that the Texas Court of Appeals “reversed, and remanded” our death threats sanctioned by LLDM. The Court pointed out LLDM-Austin’s prior criminal act of stealing free El Mundo newspapers containing our law office’s ad as an indication of their behavior, certainly worthy of discovery. Austin PD refused to investigate, and sneered claiming you “can’t steal a free newspaper”.
I sneered back that the criminals who stole UT’s “Daily Texan” were convicted of a misdemeanor crime, and was told “UT is different”. Then, I asked if the officer takes contraband Steroids, and he told me to go away.
The problem with serving the subpoenas is the Joaquin boys have scattered, and seem to be evading process. I will need your services. Behave this time.
If you can’t handle it, we’re going to call Shorty Rossi’s friend Dog, the Bounty Hunter. We understand, for $50k he’ll serve anyone we want. We’re still waiting for celebrity offerings to him, but need to set up a 501(c)(3), or else get someone else’s accountant to handle paying Dog’s boys to serve Naason Joaquin’s brothers. We have unserved citations still pending in Guadalupe County in our Rule 202. Covid has been a nightmare in delays.
La Luz Del Mundo Cult evasions of process serving subpoenas to Joaquin family members: Benjamin, Naason, Eva, Atlai, Naason’s wife, and my fav, Adoniram, the recent assassin over drug money stolen from a LLDM coyote.
We’ll spoon feed law enforcement enough evidence that they can’t ignore it without a CNN soundbite asking why. Univision asked for an update yesterday. They were told LLDM is an “open investigation”, and to not report, for now. It’s been “open” since the 1980’s. We’re about to “close” it through the media.
Chances are LEOs will suddenly be interested in “collateral damage” rape victims left behind all these years. If not, we’ll find a media source in Europe that won’t have the political ties police control here in Central Texas.
From: nicole@pronto.com
To: Scott Ogle soglelaw@peoplepc.com
Cc: Dean dean@pronto.com, Mikemike@austin.com
Subject: RE: RETURN OF SERVICE LA LUZ DEL MUNDO MINISTERS BEING ABUSIVE
Date: May 22, 2018 11:28 AM
05/02/2018 9:13 am Went by again today at 1:30pm . There were some women in a parking lot holding some kind of sale. I asked one if she knew this guy and she said he is her cousin. I asked if he was inside, and she said he no longer lives here. She then said he used to preach here but moved away. She said his daughter still lives here and she would get her a message. I gave her all my info and left.
Comments for Field Sheet: None
Comments for Invoice:
05/21/2018 10:27 am The server on this has exhausted his efforts and does not want to go back to the church anymore. He's made 4 attempts, 2 of them on sundays, to no avail. If you want us to continue trying to serve this guy we can do so but will need to change to a different server and will be billed extra for sunday attempts. This is a closed, protective community and most of our servers will stick out like a sore thumb.
05/18/2018 10:27 am Scott says:
He is behind the Houston pulpit almost every Sunday. Would it be possible to meet and greet before, or after, his sermon?
05/16/2018 2:30 pm The home address discovered is very close to the church but is no good according to residents there. they say he does not live in texas.
05/15/2018 10:24 am If only it were so easy, this guy is literally all over the map. I'll have the server try 3624 darden street, houston, tx 77093. That's the only local one that shows current. Also appears to have properties or ties to Los Angeles, Seattle, North Carolina, Seguin, DC...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TcprvQ7B3qynTrQuOQwBx\_xnVoFc\_KPBqeGLclWL\_rU/edit?usp=sharing",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,This cult’s intellectual race to the bottom doesn’t surprise me. Give up opportunities to personally advance in life so you can’t miss worship service is ludicrous.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,Saving up is useless so give it to the church so that manalo doesnt have to save up money because he's already a billionaire.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,"I always appreciate your informative posts! In my area, the ministers always omits citing the Bible translations being used, so I have no clue other than when they read Acts 20:28 LAMSA, which translation they are using.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,Do you believe that teaching?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,Oh boy they did but they don't have the balls to wake you up. There are assholes who purposely bang their backs on the bench to wake you up. That's why i prefer sleeping in a chair.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,"Thank God hymn 50 goes faster; I noticed they don’t hold the notes as long except for the very end. While they’re at it, can they please delete hymn 50 and pretend it never existed? Unless there’s a subtle change in the notes for hymn 7, it feels about the same (lyrics aside) since I first heard it in 2009. However, with how long some of the notes are held and the low tempo of the hymn, I can see where you’re coming from",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,"Agreed on 50. I wonder if anybody still remembers the old melody of 50. I've been struggling to remember how it was sung in the 90s.
7 is pretty much the same.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,Please move this to Open Discussion Thread.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,Of course not.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,"It does not surprise me that both 50 and 7 were sung in the same worship service. Probably the two most commonly played hymns over the last decade. I never liked (the overplayed) 50 after they changed the lyrics in 2012 from true true to us true. Then they tried to rhyme the second stanza later with a second us. The original version was just fine when it came to rhyming. Remember true rhymes with you, that what it was originally written to be. Be ever true, be ever true, to our almighty who created you.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,"Can't even hold my breath when I heard it yesterday. I just noticed how awful the lyrics of this hymn were.
Oh really? I just thought 7 became slower. Oh well, maybe I was just impatient 😅",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,Why does a teaching you don't believe bother you?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,"Ugh! The lack of rhyming in the newer, rewritten hymns always bothered me!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 10 - Jul 13, 2021)",ohamna,2021-07-09,"It bothers me because I am still a member of this cult and leaving is not easy. FYI, this thread is for worship service examination. I am just stating it for the sake of this thread.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ohamna/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_10_jul_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 14 - Jul 16, 2021)",ojvdvs,2021-07-13,"Lesson was about the Kingdom on Earth we need to enter in order to be saved.
It's just a rehash of lessons that have been recycled over and over. INC = salvation, condemning free will and denouncing living a worldly life.
Acts 20:28 Lamsa gets read. Only the first half of John 10:9 gets read and it is thanks to my discovery of this subreddit this year, that I learned to pick that up.
""I am the gate, whoever enters through me will be saved. ~~They will come in and go out, and find pasture""~~
-Iglesia ni Manalo translation
Minister also puts emphasis on following God's (the administration's) will and denying our will. Oh and of course minister made sure to hard plug the upcoming thanksgiving anniversary offering.
Same shit different day",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ojvdvs/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_14_jul_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 14 - Jul 16, 2021)",ojvdvs,2021-07-13,Another recycled garbage,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ojvdvs/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_14_jul_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 14 - Jul 16, 2021)",ojvdvs,2021-07-13,"Although I did not get the verses this time, I know the lesson was basically Don’t Leave the INC, with mentions of Intensive Propagation and The Administration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ojvdvs/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_14_jul_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 14 - Jul 16, 2021)",ojvdvs,2021-07-13,Porket nagsakrapisyo si Cristo inabuso na nila ang talata tsk!tsk!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ojvdvs/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_14_jul_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 14 - Jul 16, 2021)",ojvdvs,2021-07-13,"The administration, do what jesus wants you to do, and more administration and hellfire outside of the cult. My mind was wondering. Buts thats the lesson.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ojvdvs/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_14_jul_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 14 - Jul 16, 2021)",ojvdvs,2021-07-13,"Matthew 6:33, 31
Col 1:12-14 AMP
Acts 20:28 Lamsa
Matthew 6:9-10
Eph 1:9-10
1 Cor 12:27
Mat 26:39,42
Phil 3:9
John 10:7,8 REB
ISA 65:17-19 MSG
Heb 12:22-23 The Remedy New Testament
Rev 21:1-4
Mat 7:21 AMP
Gal 5:19-21
Acts 14:22 GNB",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ojvdvs/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_14_jul_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 14 - Jul 16, 2021)",ojvdvs,2021-07-13,Thank you! :D,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ojvdvs/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_14_jul_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 17 - Jul 20, 2021)",olw2p1,2021-07-16,"I believe the minister said the title of the lesson was “the ones who will meet the lord” or something like that.
INC is the true church, treasure membership be active for salvation, Obey administration and Lord EVM, don’t be distracted by the world, prepare offerings for anniversary thanksgiving
Ministers in my area never cite translations anymore not even Acts 20:28, so I had to figure out the translation after WS, but I believe it was Proverbs 4:25 MSG translation that the minister read about “side show distractions”. Our minister was saying some braindead things like the devil distracts us with poverty and financial hardships (FFS INCult is responsible for this) The devil tries to distract us with fallen members lying and slandering the church and the administration.
The past worship services have been so mind numbingly redundant. It’s literally the same lesson but they just slap on a different title and cycle in different cherry picked verses. Well, it’s always been like that anyways. I’d actually welcome a Lord EVM special just so I could rant about something different lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/olw2p1/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_17_jul_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 17 - Jul 20, 2021)",olw2p1,2021-07-16,"Finally got forced back to F2F.
So it's basically like a lesson on repeat but longer and more EVM special mentions.
Of course there's no INC without Acts 20:28 Lamsa. (Search for ""Gawa 20:28 Lamsa"" on google and you'll get INC websites on the results)
The last part of the lesson, by the way the minister said it, made it sound like the devil is the one that cares more for our well being than God.
""The devil uses poverty to lead us astray by finding us a solution for it"" Or something like that. So if the devil can do it, why won't God do it?
Of course thanksgiving was mentioned as well so we were reminded again to bring ""voluntarity"" offerings (a lot of offerings I'm sure because ""sulong"")
I was at a different lokale. I saw a ""We Love EVM"" decoration there as I was leaving the chapel after WS. I thought ""But not God or Jesus?"". Seriously, ""Iglesia Ni Manalo"" really is a more fitting name for this church.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/olw2p1/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_17_jul_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 17 - Jul 20, 2021)",olw2p1,2021-07-16,"We had to do Happy 107th birthday video postcard x 2
What a bunch of crap !!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/olw2p1/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_17_jul_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 17 - Jul 20, 2021)",olw2p1,2021-07-16,"OFFERINGS OFFERINGS OFFERINGS
for upcoming Anniversary mid year Pasalamat",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/olw2p1/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_17_jul_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 17 - Jul 20, 2021)",olw2p1,2021-07-16,"* ""The Ones Who Will Meet the Lord""
* Deadly Themes: Don't Leave the INC, The Administration (brief)
* I Peter 2:9-10 GNB
* Isaiah 62:11-12 KJV2000
* Acts 20:28 Lamsa
* Jeremiah 7:23-24 NIV
* Hebrews 12:1 NIV
* Hebrews 13:1 NIV
* 2 Thessalonians 2:1(a) & 15 CEV
* Hebrews 10:32-33, 35-39 GNT
* Hebrews 10:39, 25 NWT
* 2 Corinthians 6:1-2 NLV
* Proverbs 4:25 MSG",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/olw2p1/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_17_jul_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 17 - Jul 20, 2021)",olw2p1,2021-07-16,Same old shit.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/olw2p1/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_17_jul_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 17 - Jul 20, 2021)",olw2p1,2021-07-16,"Minister shit on our problems after saying how easy it was to ""avoid sideshow distractions.
CWS continues on the Moses Adventures, something about the tabernacle and offering.
* 25 ""Please Draw Near To Us""
* child pleads for forgiveness, again
* 95 ""Sing a New Song Of Praise To Our God""
* lecture hymn
* repeats the word ""sing"" almost 20 times.
* 61 ""Worship Our Lord Jesus Christ""
* lecture hymn
* mentions remaining ""his chosen ones""
* 8 ""The Path That I Will Walk on""
* submission hymn
* mentions renewing life, stay obedient, stay away from evil
* 11 ""Oh I Will Always Serve My God""
* submission hymn
* mentions church, world bad, always obey
* 65 ""His Teachings Will Be Taught To Us""
* lecture. hymn.
* mentions remaining ""his chosen""
**Extra Notes:**
8, 11, 25 are super common, makes sense why.
95's composition is awful: octaves, same note for most of it, hearing kiddos sustain that gives me pain.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/olw2p1/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_17_jul_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 17 - Jul 20, 2021)",olw2p1,2021-07-16,PPV?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/olw2p1/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_17_jul_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 17 - Jul 20, 2021)",olw2p1,2021-07-16,"INC always twists things around. It’s always the devil’s fault. How about it’s their fault that the members are poverty stricken since they don’t have a chance to better themselves because they spend all their waking moment on their church offices and activities. In the same token that most of the INC kids don’t finish college on time or hardly ever because they’re being railroaded to do more offices. Instead of spending time doing their studies, they’re in the chapel doing god knows what.
It’s ridiculous that instead of showing human compassion and support members in any way possible, they guilt them into more brainwashing. It’s stupid.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/olw2p1/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_17_jul_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 17 - Jul 20, 2021)",olw2p1,2021-07-16,"Hymns were 282, 70, 116, 153 all usual commonly played songs. Before sermon 271, offering 127, Recessional 294.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/olw2p1/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_17_jul_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 17 - Jul 20, 2021)",olw2p1,2021-07-16,"Oh yes. Acts 20:28 Lamsa, indeed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/olw2p1/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_17_jul_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 17 - Jul 20, 2021)",olw2p1,2021-07-16,No,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/olw2p1/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_17_jul_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 17 - Jul 20, 2021)",olw2p1,2021-07-16,"Ok. PPV livestream will be held by July 24, for a single WS.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/olw2p1/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_17_jul_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 17 - Jul 20, 2021)",olw2p1,2021-07-16,"Ohh, that's thanksgiving time.. So EVM will ""officiate""? Well I guess long time no see?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/olw2p1/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_17_jul_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,I'm sick and tired of these recycled lessons. Are they tying to be as boring as possible?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"I believe the minister mentioned the topic of the lesson being the ones who have the privilege to serve the living God or something like that.
The lesson had a focus on offerings especially with the upcoming Thanksgiving offering. Once again the minister talked about poverty, financial hardships, loss of a job, and somehow that equates to giving more offering. The lesson also put a lot of focus in trying to guilt trip and spiritually blackmail members into becoming more active in missionary activities, bible studies, and works of propagation in order to be saved. Our minister was heavily implying that God won't listen to our prayers and we won't be saved if we just simply attend the worship service and are content with doing the bare minimum as a member. We need to listen to the rest of God's (the administration's ) commandments and be more active with church activities if we want God to start answering our prayers and achieve salvation",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"Pandemic is one of ""signs"" the end is near, earthquake shit the end is near, storm shit, the end is near, ww3 oh no, the end is really near.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"Just a rant, so during WS preparing for Mid-year Thanksgiving, the minister gave me a cringey, headache, uncomfy feeling because his voice is fucking loud and it irritates me so much especially when I heard and then the minister asked this twice ""Do we Ka. Eduardo loves us?"" Then for the second time all in the Kapulungans even in the choir loft said it out loud ""Yes"" with a loud fake cries and strong conviction response and in the back of my mind I was like: Wtf, do all this people lose their minds, Yuck! Ew, it freaked me out even my body terrified out of nowhere.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,Same old shit that I don't wanna summarize it,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"Another misinterpret type of religion preaching again, more-so the LIE’s they preach. INC Members are so brainwashed that they believe in the Membership and being privileged in worshiping God. They are so misinformed that they don’t know that the only way to God is through Jesus Christ, and that you must know Jesus Christ’s gospel to know why God sent him to earth. If anyone who doesn’t know Jesus Christ doesn’t know God and will never receive God. INC says Jesus Christ’s name and recognize him but they never, never explain his true GOSPEL, and that’s the key to heaven and heaven on earth. Once again the INC’s preaching of cherry picked verses which the members don’t know better just get more brainwashed. This whole ordeal of Thanksgiving for the INC is just another big time money scheme which the INC/Administration loves to collect. The INC brainwashed it’s members into them believing that it’s a living sacrifice, when which it’s our body and soul that are truly the sacrifice not money. The misinterpretation of giving money which is the sacrifice that the INC is preaching is so FALSE, that they don’t know the truth or deny that Jesus Christ did the ultimate sacrifice which was his life and got crucified on the cross. God sent Jesus Christ to earth to get sacrificed so we don’t need to be doing any sacrifices!!! The INC preaching is such a LIE!!! Please members of the INC educate yourself on the truth of the Holy Bible We as Christians are to LOVE everyone, everything and to forgive as Jesus Christ did. We should not follow a leader who can dis-own his own mother and family members for the gain of power. That’s so devilish and you members of the INC don’t see it. Watch LJ Caraangs YouTube videos to open up your mind and you bring justice to your soul that is blinded and lost in the Manalo family Administration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,I honestly just turn off these days. I normally go after work and go to sleep.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,Heavily focused on Offerings and propagation,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"Although I didn’t get the verses this time, I briefly saw the title as something along the lines of “The Obligation of Those Who Have the Right to Serve the Father, and Those Who Will Receive Salvation”. The Deadly Themes were Offerings, Intensive Propagation, Don’t Leave the INC, and a brief mention of The Administration. For the hymns, please see my comment [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/of0h7o/july_2021_lineups/h49h1y8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"Eugh! The first prayer was so Manalo family/Administration centric.
The lesson of course was about the Mid Year Cashtaking. I kind of listened a bit until the part where they read Acts 20:28...again. I didn't bother to listen anymore until the second minister took over.
That second dude gave me a headache. In a supposedly english worship service, he starts speaking in Vernacular then English then Vernacular again just to make the lesson longer than it should be.
He even triggered me when he tried to make an analogy that a member of the INC church is like an employee of a company. I was like what? Hello, Unlike INC, a company actually pays the person who works for it, not take the money from the person who works for it.
And last but not least, he said that the ""Secret of an INC family is (blind) obedience"" What's so secret about that? A lot of people outside INC knows that INSheeps always obeys blindly to their lord administration!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,Ano po lesson?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"Why, what do you want to hear in the worship services? You want to hear your own experience and your escapades? Of course they will teach you the verses in the bible, not just like you who rants all day, I guess you guy who are ex inc are members of 711 group,, he he he ge",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,And they have the nerve to constantly remind us that the great God King Eduardo Manalo labors day and night for us in preparing these lessons,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"It’s like the INC’s members are buying their way to heaven. Imagine even when Jesus was preaching his gospel he in no way guilt trips his followers and believers. The INC’s preaching is truly false the fact that the minister’s need to guilt trip their members and brainwashed the people to think they have the right and privilege to worship God. The INC’s preaching don’t even recognize Jesus’s gospel the fact that it’ll make their members know that Felix Manalo’s prophecy is truly false and made up, which it is.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,INC should research history because the pandemics of the past were much worse. The Black Death is estimated to have killed 30%-60% of Europe's population.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,so pretty much like a lot of other times in history then? 🥱,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"Lol they cried as they replied ""yes, we love ka evm"".....?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"The INC already replaced Jesus Christ’s LOVE with Manalo’s Lust for members money LOVE. The only advice I have for you is to humble yourself by reading the Holy Bible and knowing Jesus Christ, he is the way, the truth, and the life! You can retaliate your heart by knowing the gospel of Jesus Christ and use it against the INC’s ministry. The fact that you will know the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ it’ll help you humble your mind, body and soul instead of hate. Also watch LJ Caraangs YouTube videos on the INC false teachings to help educate yourself on finding scriptures that the INC has manipulated.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"Got some, but not all. Instinct to snap back isn't as sharp.
* Hebrews 9:14-15
* Acts 20:28 *(ugh)*
* Ephesians 4:12, 22-24 *(I missed a bit of this one, I think)*
* I Peter 1:15-16
* Romans 12:1
* Philippians *(didn't catch)*
* Hebrews 13:20, 16-21
* Psalms 37:9
* A Psalms verse? *(Didn't catch)*
* Might've been Proverbs 14:32? He didn't say the last two.
* Sounded like a Psalms verse
Preacher mentioned how we offer directly and pray to Christ directly while bashing the Catholics (for some reason?). So brief mention of Other Religions are Wrong,",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,">Of course they will teach you the verses in the bible
Most religions cherry-pick anyway. Like how INC never reads the second half of John 10:9. Did you notice how the command to ""share"" became ""offer more""? There's a reasonable amount of patterns we've found. We rant because, for a church that claims to be so philanthropic, it makes so many of its members suffer.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"The fact that the ministry of the Administration of Manalo don’t preach the UNCONDITIONAL LOVE of Jesus Christ is a sign of using the Holy Bible as a tool to manipulate it. Jesus Christ’s GOSPEL is all about love in the end. If you read the the Holy BIble you’ll know that he is the Way, the Truth, and the Life! Jesus Christ preaches that in order to know the Father you must know Jesus Christ not Felix or Eduardo and Eranyo. Please read the Bible and find the truths of it and find the Gospel of Jesus Christ",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"Exactly, INC teachings are designed to guilt trip members to buying their way to heaven. The message of repentance and forgiveness through Christ gets twisted into a message of salvation through the church and monetary offering.
I remember reading a post on here calling INC a MLM scheme, a Manalo-level Marketing scheme or Multi-level Manalo scheme.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,Brainwashed and blinded people they are. Their minds are so manipulated that they totally don’t know Jesus Christ’s LOVE!!! EVM never sacrificed his life for our sins. Eranyo has no faith in God and Jesus Christ the fact that he cannot walk the streets alone without any bodyguards. His faith in Jesus Christ is all to use Jesus’s name to manipulate the members and use membership as a tactic tool to control the people’s fake faith. Hopefully a INC member can read this and truly examine the tactics of the INC but truly the members must read the Holy Bible. The best advice to a INC member is for he or she to watch LJ Caraangs YouTube videos. Examine the truth and interpretation of the Holy Bible and not the cherry picked scriptures that the INC has preached to its people to serve its church to please their own desire’s using the name of Jesus Christ.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"Why? You only want to hear the verses the your etching to hear, of course they will teach you a lesson from the bible that make your life better, and timely lesson, cherry? Picking, if you want you read the entire bible yourself from beginning up to the end! Bible is not a history book that’s in sequence from genesis to revelation duh!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"You think your better than the church administration place by God? Who are you to defy God’s will, stop ranting and I dare you to established your own church and let’s see if it will be successful!! Duh!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,">of course they will teach you a lesson from the bible that make your life better, and timely lesson
Telling brethren that are barely surviving with three jobs that they don't need to work if it conflicts with the worship service is helpful?
Telling brethren with horribly abusive parents to respect them regardless is helpful?
Telling brethren to offer more when they've lost their jobs and are being evicted from their homes is timely?
Telling me I feel suicidal because I'm not giving enough time or effort to do my duties when I've been serving wholeheartedly every. single. day. for years. is **helpful?**
The church discourages people reading the bible on their own anyway, ""only those who are sent can teach"".
Why are the CWS members taught *bible history* if it's not in sequence?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"Take a step back my friend, hopefully you can read the Holy Bible the fact that you can write a post back to me. I truly feel that Jesus Christ is way better, Holier, and the true way of preaching the spirit and truth of the Holy Bible. The fact that the way your answering my post I know where you stand and that your programed by the misinterpretation of the Manalo Administration. I’m already successful in touching you with the truth of Jesus Christ the fact that you replied to my post, I’ve already touched a nerve of yours and that’s the beginning of you to see the truth because you’ve honestly been lied to or been manipulated, and brainwashed to believe the teachings of The INC. I suggest you read the book of “Matthew” in the New Testament and see why the Church Administration doesn’t even give no thought of the birth of Jesus Christ. I’m not talking about Christmas, I’m talking and reaching out to you to know Jesus Christ. The UNCONDITIONAL love that Jesus Christ has for you and me surpasses the “Membership” of the INC/Administration. Please I know your kinda frustrated about people talking about your church and it’s Administration but think about this my friend.....is what the INC is preaching is it about our savior Jesus Christ or is it about a messenger named Felix Manalo? When Jesus Christ said “he is the way, the truth, and the Life” he really meant it. Do me a favor and watch LJ Caraangs YouTube videos and ask yourself and pray to Jesus Christ. Ask Jesus what is the true way of connecting to him our LORD and SAVIOR Jesus Christ. GOD has blessed me in so many ways and also has given me the blessings of the Holy Spirit. You be the judge of you because I don’t know you.....Jesus Christ does, and not Felix, Eranyo, or Eduardo. Please reply if you want to but please have at least the mentality of Jesus Christ’s when you do",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"No contest the Christ is the greatest messenger of all time as prophesied in the bible, but he( Jesus re established his church in these last days) and also stated that he who listens to him(Jesus) listens to God who sent him, that a messenger would re emerged in the Far East in the ends of time,. The mere fact that you listen to LJ(rant) has no basis at all. Ask him what religion does he belong? He will say nothing, for he believes only to himself, ask him why he’s wearing cross? Is that a sign of Christ? Is the apostles were rosary? That means you’re in a wrong side of truth better make up your mind before it’s too late,,",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"Like I said and mentioned my friend, your programmed and your mind is set on the way your taught as a child. Hopefully you can get out of that “inside the box” mindset and educate yourself on Felix’s journey on how he went to different churches and learned how to manipulate people by replacing Jesus Gospel to the verse “Ends of the Earth” misinterpretation of the Bible. Other churches has already use that verse “ends of the earth” and “apostasy”, the INC just stole that same verse to manipulate the Filipino people instead of using the real truth of Jesus Christ’s Gospel. Think about it my friend you totally said it in your words that Jesus Christ is the most greatest MESSENGER, and you still deny his GOSPEL and turn to another person (Felix)to replace him. I hope your shocked by my words, but it’s all your clouded mind sets doing. Ask yourself my friend would Jesus need to DISOWN his own Mom and relatives? Does Jesus need a Arena with a Zoo and Bonsai Garden, most of all did Jesus Christ need any body guards to travel or walk the streets? The fact that the INC has their own Jet plane imagine how much homes and hungry mouths the INC can supply for, but no.....when the INC does charities they full on BOAST about it. Eduardo Manalo and his family tree has no faith in Jesus Christ, they need the members money to fill their needs in the luxury lifestyle they have. To me the Manalo family has no faith in Jesus Christ the fact that they live with a lot of wealth and feed off the members money. Before I go on in and continue responding to your post I really gotta ask you what’s your interpretation of the word “Everyone ”. This word “Everyone” by your interpretation that you’ll hopefully respond to will truly prove to me your education level. I’ll only respond to you if you can give me the definition or your interpretation of the word “EVERYONE”. if I don’t get an answer from you I guess you don’t want to hear my response. But I’ll leave you with this quote.....”A Churches name is not what makes it Biblical or Holy”, also hopefully you’ll find Jesus Christ’s GOSPEL through the Bible’s scriptures of his Birth, his miracles, his percussion’s, his crucification, his resurrection, and most of all his LOVE❤️ the New Testament of the holy bible will guide you that way if or when your ready.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"Learn to manipulate? God allow bro Felix to be in different church in order to show him how the people in this world worship God in vain, and all the teaching he thought was purely biblical, no personal opinions. On all religion in this world does anyone ask a question and the bible will answer? No one except the Sugo, and FYI most of my family is convert even my relatives from different religion, they found a true peace with God and Christ. How about you are you at peace?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 21 - Jul 23, 2021)",oohdo5,2021-07-20,"It’s truly interpretation that counts my friend and with INC it’s a lie and false information, that’s why I wanted to hear your definition of the word “Everyone”. By you giving me your definition of the word “Everyone” determines how you process that word correctly and truthfully. Give it a try and tell me your definition of the word “ Everyone”, so you’ll see what I’ll say next on how the INC manipulated that word, and the lie you’ve been living in that Church. When you ask about PEACE This whole Subreddit forum was created for members of INC to find peace my friend. The Toxic and controlling ways of how the INC puts its members in has brainwashed them to not knowing the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ which is the way to Heaven. If you believe MEMBERSHIP is the way to heaven please reconsider on reading the Holy Bible and see that Jesus Christ said that only through him (Jesus Christ) then you’ll know God. The INC Church is not Jesus Christ the (that’s what they’ll preach) honest fact that the INC don’t even recognize Jesus Christ’s Gospel. The repetitive teaching that brainwashed Filipino members go through, and the corrupt governing needs to be stopped and that’s why this Subreddit was created.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oohdo5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_21_jul_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,"Another brainwash session of Eduardo Manalo and his chronies. My mom came home from Thanksgiving saying that we shouldn't save money anymore as the end of the world is nearly coming. All money should be used to worship Sky Daddy. She told me to stop pursuing my studies and get back to the church asap. God is so angry that he give us calamities, hunger and diseases to let people die as a lesson for not glorifying him.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,"Cringe rating: 5/10
First prayer started with a lot of forced crying and some of the members cried as well only at the beginning. They eventually stopped crying as the prayer progresses. Minister must have realized that he couldn't bring himself to cry.
Trigger rating: 7/10
EVM and Family once again were the only ones the minister prayed for when it comes to protection, health and strength from their cult god.
FYM is the messenger on these last days BS again and them using that Isaiah prophecy as ""solid proof"" (Hebrews 1:2 be damned despite being clearly written on the bible on most, if not all translations).
Acts 20:28 (Lamsa translation I assume) was used again as ""solid proof"". That's like 3 WS in a row now since going back to f2f.
Propagation was stressed again and that's the crap that I hate listening to the most.
Nap/Daydream Rating: 5/10
Tried my best not to listen to the lessons but I couldn't prevent all of the BS getting from getting into from my mind.
Covert napping made my neck hurt but I managed to daydream myself to power napping while the minister in front was having an emotional episode while ""teaching"".
Other thoughts:
Announcement at the end of WS was full of propagation based activities (Are they desperate for new members or something?)
My family didn't feel that Thanksgiving spirit at all. To them, it felt just like any other WS.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,Lesson was full of propagation no spirit of Thanksgiving to God. Just some compiled doctrines of FYM and staying on the cult shits.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,"Thanksgiving Lesson Analysis:
Expectations:
Biblical Lessons about Living
Inspiration to live more despite the Pandemic
Reality:
*The Prophecy about the Bird*
**Cult** Admins Legacy
The True and only to be saved ~~Cult~~ Religion
*Why to be an INC discussed to the INC audience*
`a g a i n`
Reality Strikes (Especially to Parents)
Overall Rating: **SLEEPING PILLS**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,"I zoned out for the most part and couldn’t get (most of) the verses, but here are some “highlights”:
* Deadly Themes: Don’t Leave the INC, Other Religions Are Wrong
* Acts 20:28 Lamsa (but the minister of course didn’t mention the translation)
* Incomplete John 10:9 *(Hmm, what’s that about subtracting from God’s words?)*
* FYM and not Cyrus is the messenger. In INC’s book, Cyrus is nowhere to be found.
* “It’S nOt EnOuGh To Be A mEmBeR. iT’s NoT eNoUgH tO bE iNcLuDeD iN tHe HeAd CoUnT.”
* [Hymns](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/of0h7o/july_2021_lineups/h49h1y8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) that would be easily forgettable if it weren’t for their sickening, twisted lyrics
* I was actually hoping the preacher would forget to announce the singing of “[I Am A Member](https://youtu.be/6jtvxZ_fay8)” so hopefully the person playing the hymns would skip it, but alas, preacher guy didn’t forget.
* Repeat everything ad nauseam because it’s the INC and many ministers/workers are like that…
* Minister asks a question and no one feels like answering
* (Me trying not to fall asleep like 🥱)
Also, if they truly were celebrating 107 years, would they not have celebrated this last November? 🤔 Of course not! They will rewrite their own history to keep their twisted doctrine, even to the point where their words contradict one another. As wishful as this sounds, I wish they’d at least admit the truth, but alas, money and influence (whether good or bad) are more important to the admin than admitting their own faults.
EDIT: Format",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,"the minister prayed for “the most important person on Earth”, EVM. damn, this is very cultish",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,INC takes verses out of context and says they are about Felix Manalo.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,"Ahh, Thanksgiving lesson, another recycled lesson. I thought I am attending indoctrination. First part was about Felix Manalo.. the second half Idk, my mind is already wandering and a bit of sleepy.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,"INC’s blasphemous interpretation of ends of the earth and the emergence of phony last messenger Felix Manaloko.
After the lesson establishes the Manaloko deception, just the usual recycled garbage that they always spew, Acts 20:28 Lamsa, INC being hypocrites about not taking away from the Bible when they cut off half of John 10:9, salvation is near, stay in INC, propagation.
Most importantly, EVM is smiling with the amount of bank he’s about to milk from the INC member ~~head~~ cash count….",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,"Its greet Eduardo Manalo We Love You Weekend!
dont forget to wave to the camera... or else 👿",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,"My head's mixing adult and children's lessons cause I was in autopilot and zoning out the whole time. Heard something about doing more for the church and all the victories.
I remember the CWS teacher saying something about how loving God is. I guess their lessons about God murdering a bunch of people in the red sea didn't happen.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,INC recognize 107 years of establishment and they praise their leader EVM for it. Jesus Christ’s accomplishment’s and establishments of thousands of years are not even recognize nor praised through the preaching of the INC/Administration. God knows that the intentions of the INC is not a Christian and Jesus Christ lifestyle. It’s truly scary how the INC members are brainwashed and don’t know the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I really want to hear a Iglesia Ni Christo’s member reply to my post and hear their view on this subject.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,Hebrew ? 14-15?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,"If the end of the world is coming so soon, why does INC need money? So sorry for your situation :(",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,"Wow!!! Amazing, the fact that Gods love is unconditional!!!! That’s why he sacrificed his only begotten son to die for all our sins. Your Mom is brainwashed with the whole “Membership” ordeal that they preached to her so it’s understandable that she feels that way. Hopefully she’ll see the light of Jesus Christ’s Gospel and maybe get that clouded mindset cleared.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,"[""We love you po""](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=107+iglesia+ni+cristo)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,"I used to be brainwashed and I’m still a current member of the church. I see through all the BS.
There is no love in this church. It doesn’t exist. If it does, it’s fake. I’ll debate anyone on that.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 24 - Jul 27, 2021)",oqhmyd,2021-07-23,"There’s no need to debate my friend, the lord Jesus Christ doesn’t want you to do that. A debate would transform you to start hating each other and thats what the INC does, they debate to cause hate and they don’t even know it because they’re relationship is not with Jesus Christ. To me the best thing to do is for you to read the holy gospel of Jesus Christ or watch LJ Caraangs YouTube videos to get inspired by the information that he researched. God Bless you my friend",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oqhmyd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_24_jul_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2021)",ot1dti,2021-07-27,"Oh no I'll be missing this as my wife is working !!
Also, I'll miss the PPV on Saturday as my wife is Bridesmaids dress fitting !!!!!
Oh well hopefully I'll get expelled soon",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ot1dti/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2021)",ot1dti,2021-07-27,"I think the minister mentioned the title of the lesson being ""The people who hope for the reward and the second advent of our lord Jesus Christ""
Just paying attention to the title of the lesson and comparing it to the titles of past lessons and it's just so blatant that these lessons are rehashed over and over, i wish more within INCult would pick that up.
INC cherry picking bibles once again, Minister read Hebrews 12:22-23 of the Remedy New Translation (who even uses this translation besides INC?!).
""into the heavenly sanctuary — the true church of Christ — whose identities are stored in heaven.""
Just like INC's favorite translation in Lamsa, church is lowercased so it's a pronoun and not referring to a named church. And just like Lamsa, if you examine literally any other translation other than Remedy INCLUDING LAMSA, it does not say church of Christ.
Otherwise, same recycled garbage about INC = Salvation, Acts 20:28 Lamsa. other than that, Lesson put alot of focus on the ""daughter of Zion"" part of their Manaloko ends of the earth prophecy and how the return of Christ is near because we are at the end of the earths time period (39,082 days and counting btw lol). If I recall correctly, majority of the bible verses read came from 1 Peter Chapter 1 which of course does not get read continuously, but instead, snippets of it get read throughout the lesson.
Oh and the next WS is going to be a WebEx stream officiated by the most important man on this Earth, Lord EVM.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ot1dti/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2021)",ot1dti,2021-07-27,"* Topic: The people who can fully hope in the reward on the second advent of Jesus Christ
* Main Deadly Themes: Don’t Leave the INC, Other Religions Are Wrong
* Also Mentioned: Intensive Propagation, Offerings
* I apologize for not getting most of the verses. However, Acts 20:28 was read (but its translation not named).
* Hymns: please see [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/of0h7o/july_2021_lineups/h49h1y8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3).
EDIT: formatting, clarity",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ot1dti/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2021)",ot1dti,2021-07-27,Oh no! I did overtime and I didn't attend purposely! I guess eddie boi will get sad and mad now.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ot1dti/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2021)",ot1dti,2021-07-27,"😂 its like evm’s lessons. Different title, but same old bullcrap messages.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ot1dti/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2021)",ot1dti,2021-07-27,Return of the God King this weekend AMAAAAAAAAAAA TULOY TULOY TULOY,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ot1dti/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2021)",ot1dti,2021-07-27,"Oh boy we get to sing 510 that weekend!
/s
God I hate these new hymns as much as INC's God hates me.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ot1dti/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2021)",ot1dti,2021-07-27,"I’m glad that you finally realize and picked up on the repeat after repeat preaching, brainwashing the brainwashed more and more. I’m sure eventually a lot more people will see and hear the manipulation and brainwashing of the INC CULT.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ot1dti/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2021)",ot1dti,2021-07-27,"Lol if you look up remedy translation with that verse, the first link that shows up is INC fb page with a post dated jul 12 2020 and a picture of the “Bible” as to show proof that it exists since it’s not available anywhere else",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ot1dti/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2021)",ot1dti,2021-07-27,will it be his first appearance since the pandemic?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ot1dti/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2021)",ot1dti,2021-07-27,"Wife (INC) Telegram and iMessage pinging saying why Bro A\*\*\*\*\* did not attend today. Luckily I have access to these, so Clear History !!!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ot1dti/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2021)",ot1dti,2021-07-27,At least Jesus Christ loves you no matter what. Just reach out to him and he’ll help you,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ot1dti/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 28 - Jul 30, 2021)",ot1dti,2021-07-27,"I think it’s been around 3 months since the last EVM PPV
There were a lot of EVM PPVs during the start of the pandemic, felt like almost every other week. A lot of places have returned to in person WS since then and the frequency of those PPVs have dropped significantly for some reason.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ot1dti/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_28_jul_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,"Return of our Beloved Lord EVM PPV.
Anniversaries for a number of locales, Minister ordination, but other than that, the motive of the PPV is to ultimately rally members to continue giving everything they can when it comes to offering, to give as much as possible just like the people of Macedonia.
EVM does not fool me, first part of the lesson is filled with filler fluff about worshipping the true god, God can make the impossible possible, etc. EVM is trying to hard to spiritually appeal to the members because after the serving God talk, EVM jumps into offerings,
EVM was boasting about how other religions are failing, INC is buying their houses or worship. Apparently INC spent over 6 billion Pesos (~120 million US Dollars) on houses of worships of the past year, which is thanks to INC members. He acknowledges that members of INC are poor and then really focuses on Macedonia in the bible telling us that even though people of Macedonia were in extreme poverty, they gave everything they possibly can because they are true believers. Members are poor but still give everything you can like the true believers of the first century church of Christ in Macedonia.
EVM of course said alot of dumb things like he always does. I remember he opened the lesson telling us that people of the world look down on us as if we're 2nd class citizens... seriously? If anything it's the other way around.... EVM at one point equated integrity to obedience lol. I believe when EVM was bragging about how other religions are failing he actually mentioned he didn't bring proof lol.. Countless freaking Tuloys. Longer than usual prayers that give special attention to EVM and gushing over him + the hysterical sobbing of some members... Oh can't forget the cringe fake prayer EVM always does at the end of the lesson. Ughhh, It's been a while since I've had to endure it, but forced inclusion of all members to the officer prayer at the end.
God what a waste of time, these PPVs are always nauseatingly dragged out because of the EVM ego stroking....",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,"**Overview**
* Main Topics: obedience and integrity
* Main Deadly Themes: Other Religions Are Wrong, Don't Leave the INC
* Offerings were given their own part (2 Cor. 8:1-4); The Administration was briefly mentioned, as well.
**Verses**
* Job 42:1-2
* Genesis 17:1
* Luke 1:37
* Hebrews 11:6
* Psalms 78:8, 11, 19-22
* Job 4:5-6
* 2 Corinthians 4:7
* Hebrews 11:29, 30, 32, 33
* 2 Corinthians 8:1-4
* Luke 18:28-30
**Just for Fun/My Comments and Observations**
* You guessed it! No translations were named in this PPV.
* Total PPV length: 1 hour, 45 minutes
* Sermon length: 58 minutes
* Tuloy Tally: 56
* Almost 1 ""Tuloy!"" per minute! (For those who don't know, ""Tuloy!"" means, ""Continue!"" in Tagalog/Filipino.)
* Prayer Approximations and Stats:
* Officers' Prayer: 4 min.
* Opening Prayer: 6 min.
* Post-Lesson Prayer: 9 min.
* Post-Ordination Prayer: 6 min.
* Officers' Prayer: 2 min.
* Total: 27 min.
* In each of the five prayers, Jesus Christ gets less than a minute of mention. The final officers' prayer is possibly the only one in which Christ gets more prayer time than EVM.
* EVM attempts to answer the brethren's question of, ""Why are we still learning this if we already know it?"" with the Psalms 78 verses.
* After the reading of 2 Corin. 4:7, EVM goes on a tangent to mention some of INC's so-called victories, such as:
* INC is not diminishing, unlike other religions. *(Based on what metric(s)?)*
* In fact, INC was able to add three districts, 81 congregations, and 325 group WSes. *(How many of each of those subdivisions are just, for example, one district becoming two, a congregation splitting into two or more, so forth?)*
* 180 former pastors, preachers, etc. joined INC. *(And how many INC ministers/workers renounced the ministry or even outright left? In fact, how many of those 180 did a 180° and left INC?)*
* My point is EVM and the administration can present whatever they want and it would still technically qualify as fact, but will they ever present or even acknowledge evidence to the contrary?
* I might be overanalyzing, but during the opening prayer, the minister claims something along the lines of, ""Almost half a year has passed."" Taken at face value, such a statement would imply this particular worship service occurred in late June at the absolute latest, meaning the administration just recycled a month-old, or perhaps older, WS.
* Near the end of the sermon, EVM says, ""I will not prolong my preaching any further"" (or something to that effect), but then prattles for a good six or seven more minutes before finally standing the brethren for the prayer.
* EVM himself admits the brethren are poor *~~(Hmmm I wonder why that is...)~~*.
**Hymns**
* 64: ""Would I Still Be Worthy?""
* 320: ""Your Goodness is Abounding and without End""
* …except when it isn't...
* [428: ""I'm Proud to Be a Member of the Church of Christ""](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc9Zrv25mOc)
* I think the title explains itself...
* showtune
* 510: “Our Lord God Will Act for Us""
* has these lyrics in the 2nd stanza: ""Do not dwell in anguish or deep distress/Do not let depression take hold."" Can you guess the theme of this ""hymn""? *(This part was taken directly from* [*my comment*](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/of0h7o/july_2021_lineups/h49h1y8?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) *on the* [*July 2021 lineups*](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/of0h7o/july_2021_lineups/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)*.)*
* Not helping is the lyric: ""...all his commandments obey/Prove to our Father we truly believe/By never turning away.""
* Still not helping is its similarities to 466 (""Rejoice in Your Suffering"") from a few years ago:
* same key (F major with many D minor chords for emotional effect)
* same time signature (6/4)
* similar messages (don't let trials etc. take hold of you)
* [71: ""My Journey in This Life""](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNlWuno2-Q4)
* includes a lyric about obedience
* 482: ""He Is Returning, So Let Us Prepare""
* includes the lyric: ""to His Church, be faithful and be true""
* showtune-sounding
* 294: ""We Must Defend Our Election""
* Title!
* (For those wondering, you can expect the August lineup soon-ish. I try to wait at least until a time when hopefully most if not all locales will have distributed the lineup to help conceal my identity. :) ) EDIT: The [lineup](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ovcdt3/august_2021_lineups/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) is now available! :D
* Edited for fluency. Edited the Deadly Themes for more accuracy in their representations.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,I don’t appreciate being called poor twice by someone wearing a $5k suit then being called poor again in a prayer. I work really freaking hard to get to where I’m at.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,"My wife (INC) is going to be angry at me
PPV doors close at 8:25am, but didn't tell her.
Wonder what she will do ???
Update - wife got in",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,"Just sick blasphemy. These are the same hypocrites that ridicule Catholics for the trinity and idolatry… at least the Catholics don’t put anyone higher than Christ. Meanwhile, we just had to endure 5 prayers last WS all of which gave the God King Eduardo V Manalo more attention than Jesus Christ. I don’t understand why they bother praying for the prerecorded ordination that took place before the in person WebEx…. Seems like an excuse to artificially prolong the WS and fellate EVM even more.
Also, does it not bother anyone else that our supreme leader can not be bothered to read the Bible himself or actually lead a prayer?! I cannot stand that fake pseudo prayer he does at the end. Egotistical PoS.
This PoS stated that INC members are poor and then continued to spiritually blackmail members using their favorite example in Macedonia. He literally said to always have offerings as the number one priority when we budget. I remember seeing a picture of an INC chapel in Philippines looking all majestic, but it’s immediate surroundings is just poverty. That’s how it is with the God King with his administration and everyone else.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,"I still don't get why they need to recycle prayers for worship services that already happened..wouldn't that just be in VAIN? lol like we don't need to hear the prayer for those ministers being ordained. Probably the best worship services for ministers and head deacons to perform, they just sit there and watch the PPV",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,"From what i heard on a recording that told the service was a joke with some puffery self praise like our church is better than yours in this pandemic etc etc. He claims that they are buying other churches properties I wonder with what? loans? He even mentioned other churches asking for relief to INk but conviently FORGOT not citing sources so I guess we can take your word for it. There is also the not so obvious slight of hand ploy again to members by qouting the poor Macedonians as one of their favorite milking verse! As long as you see blind members keep giving they are in business and have no shame in it. In the meantime members without jobs not sure where they will get food to their families the next day and no help from the INk elected DU30 diehards is no where to be seen giving relief to their own members but instead lining up to other church relief efforts in full force specially outside of the country. As quoted by their own leader…
Poor members indeed! and beside this is no real worship service pre- recorded not having benediction in the end? Give me a break!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,".other religions are wrong
.offerings
Job/Hob? i dont know the spelling",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,"Good thing I listened after a full nights sleep. Otherwise, EVM's coma inducing ramblings would have put me to sleep. I was able to stay awake for it, although I spent most of the time thinking about the upcoming NFL season.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,What is a PPV?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,I’m glad that you see though the Devil’s work of the Eduardo Manalo’s preaching!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,"I am currently diving deep into Hebrews again. 13 chapters. I do find Hebrews as a complete sermon with summarization of OT and then how Jesus entered into the picture and now as modern day Christians we see the results of the Jesus movement. But for the Manalo Fairytale, the narratives of these ancient Jewish writers is NOT CORRECT. Felix had to butcher the Bible with his cut and paste doctrine that fooled my naive ancestors.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,"I like the way you added the “Just for fun”, the length of the service, and the prayer length parts. Really shows how long the services actually are
Edit: of course, the prayers can vary but the lengths are pretty spot on",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,"The INC leader preaching not of Jesus Christ’s Gospel but the church itself that is a controlling CULT. The way Eduardo manipulates the “WORD” of The Holy Bible and not preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ is very,very sad. The Blind thought and clouded members minds fall is so clear to see that “MEMBERSHIP” and money is all the goal this church has. The Eduardo preaching that has Manipulated and Corrupted it’s members minds are so in-Christ like the fact that he (Eduardo) can stand on that podium and LIE!!! He is the very one that the DEVIL is controlling the fact that Jesus Christ’s gospel in not being preached. The TOXIC themes that comes out of Eduardo’s mouth is distancing each members mind, body , and soul away from Jesus Christ’s gospel. You would think Eduardo Manalo as a “church of Christ” leader would at least preach the gospel of Jesus Christ the fact that the name of the church is in his name “Christ”. I strongly feel this church should really change their church name to “INE”, and call it “Church of Eduardo”, the fact that they preach that the members should submit to his Administration and that they preach praying for his family members. Imagine that guys!!!! they now pray for his family for God to protect him and his family!!!! What a narcissistic way of leading a church. I would like to ask INC members if they know the Gospel of Jesus Christ? His birth, miracles, percussions, crucification, his resurrection, and most of all his LOVE for everyone, anyone, and whoever that calls his name.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,It’s a recycled repetitive type of prayer that manipulates and brainwashed it’s members. The tactic works for the clouded mind and blind faith Of the Filipino people. I’m so glade that this Subreddit was created to show the INC members that Eduardo is a CULT leader at its finest. The preaching that he preaches is a replacement of Jesus Christ’s Gospel and hopefully their members will one day realize it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,Haha! Glad I wasn't the only one! Can't wait for NFL...oops that means no weekday worshit service...oh well..priorities! Besides I'm 2 damn poor to give a shit..,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,Coined as pay per view.. because of the offerings as he conducts virtual worship service.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,Paper view,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,"This word/phrase(ppv) has a few different meanings. You can see all of them by clicking the link below.
More details here:
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*If I don't get this right, don't get mad at me, I'm still learning!*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,"I feel it’s the Devils work and that the INC/Eduardo Administration is a fine example of the DEVIL being real, the fact that Eduardo doesn’t preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. Another fact is that Eduardo leads to gain Power through his non-Jesus Gospel teachings is a fine example of Satans Goals and Works. Hopefully the INC members can find the Gospel of Jesus Christ and Jesus’s unconditional LOVE one day🙏🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,"For me, though the present day religious leaders that live off the offerings of their members by manipulating doctrine have the yeast of the Pharisees. Devil finger pointing might bring us all to an ugly level of hate that satan himself thrives on. Peace ✌️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,"100% agree with you INC and the Manalos are the work of the Devil. The Devil not God, was the one who spoke to Felix when he self isolated for three days without food or water.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 31 - Aug 03, 2021)",ouziwi,2021-07-30,And yes that’s Satans plan especially when a church leader such as Eduardo Manalo truly manipulates the gospel on how he dis-owned his own Mother and makes it as a value or commandment of God on saving his church,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,"hopelessness, problems of this world, pandemic, the world is going to continue getting worse
Idk, I zoned out because the minister was fearmongering so excessively. Though there was one wtf moment in the lesson I remember very clearly, minister told us if EVM had the power, he would let the pandemic continue for years to come….WTF. Also the Minister bragged about how despite the pandemic, the Church’s offerings are more abundant than ever which is proof of God’s glory or something like that 🤮",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,"The lesson was about worshipping ""God"" at first. WS solves all of your problems! They say Worshipping God makes you happy!
While in WS:
We were being reminded once again how terrible and sad the world is and how poor and cash strapped we all are. How INC parents are stuggling to make ends meet.
Also in the same lesson:
We were being reminded to offer, help on intensive propagation and renewal of life bla bla bla! EVM's name was mentioned and Jesus was not. EVM words = God's will again.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,INC never tells the full story of Job. God let all that shit happen to Job just to prove Satan wrong.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,"""blah blah blah blah blah blah suck Manalo's dick blah blah blah blah blah give Manalo your income blah blah blah""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,"Job is both a victim and an idiot. No decent individual would willingly fuck over their loved ones in the name of ""testing loyalty"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,"I'm prepared to sleep this worshit service.
EDIT: Minister called out those who are sleeping by saying ""We didn't go to church so that we could sleep or flip the attendance card""
Also, he said that we should not be offended when giving offerings and we should have open palms. I guess they found my empty envelop? Fuck them, FYM(Fuck You Manalo), Fuck every generation of Manalo that came from FYM and their cohorts that likes sucking their family's small dick.
Me: \*Goes back to sleep with arms closed, while thinking who gives a damn about you and your cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,"This one pissed me off.
They literally started the lesson off with ""some of you have lost loved ones"" and I thought they were gonna go into a lesson on how God will make everything better, actual life lessons or guidance, shit like that.
Nope.
Same recycled ""stay in the Church"" bullshit. Same old cherry picking verses (that I actually looked into this time before going there, thanks exINC subreddit). The minister cried harder for EVM's wellbeing than the members.
What the fuck.
Fuck this manipulation shit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,Lets see how bored I can be tonight ?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,"* Condensed Title: Blessings of the Obedient
* Deadly Theme (Implicit): Don’t Leave the INC
* Psalms 43:5
* Ps 89:7, 15-16
* Job 1:20-22
* Ps 65:2-4
* Ps 116:3-4, 8
* Ps 119:1-3
* Ps 119:129
* Ps 121:7-8
* Ps 142:1-5
* Hymns: Please see [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ovcdt3/august_2021_lineups/h789p6d/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,"Once again another misinformed, brainwashing, Toxic preaching that brainwashed members of the INC get programmed with. The preacher/minister spoke of members being the so called “Saints”, of the church, when how can they be that of a Saint when the members don’t even know the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The minister spoke of “JOB” and his trails that he went through. Each year they use the trails of “Job”, to guilt trip the INC’s members, and the fact that they know about “JoB” and not Jesus Christ’s gospel is a fine example of how the INC Cult brainwashed their members. It’s also a fine example of how the INC cherry picked verse’s/Scriptures to manipulate the minds of the INC Cult members. The INC Administration with its leader knows how to manipulate its members because it’s been happening for 107 years. The guilt tripping and preaching of a punishing God which they manipulate in the Bible got their brainwashed members cursed. In the New Testament of the Holy Bible is so opposite of what they preach. The Love ❤️ of Jesus Christ that’s in the New Testament will never be felt by a INC membership. The disgusting prayer that the minister prayed for when he said “bless Eduardo Manalo for the sake of our salvation” is very sickening to hear and sickening to know that INC members are brainwashed to believe in that! The other disturbing and sickening comment that the minister said is that “God knows our heart when we give our offerings”, yes God knows our heart but GOD doesn’t need our money, the church of Manalo needs it and their intentions is to guilt trip it’s members to making offerings and that it’s a God commandment. Hopefully I pray that more INC members recognize the truth in the Holy Bible and of Jesus Christ’s Gospel. Thanks to God for this Subreddit to be created and explain the truth of the Iglesia Ni Christo’s Cultish and misinterpret ways that Eduardo Manalo has created.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,"Thank you for sharing.
I hate those words, INTENSIVE PROPAGATION, because it’s so damm cultish. Anyone invited to that should and must decline.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,I cant help but cringe every single time he is mentioned on WS lesson. Like they will really insert his name even if it is unnecessary,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,More like Satans will by the leadership of Eduardo Manalo’s Administration. The fact that EVM strays the INC members away from Jesus Christ’s Gospel. Hopefully one day the blind and clouded members of the INC can find Jesus Christ’s Gospel and be free from the INC’s lie’s,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,God needs to be praised as he ( and humans) makes this world worse.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,"Humble yourself my friend🙏🏼the cult church got you frustrated, this is really what Satan wants you to feel. I truly understand your frustration, hate and anger, because I felt the same way. Satan wants you to distance you from Jesus Christ and he did it by creating the Iglesia Ni Christo of the Manalo family tree. A way to channel your emotions is to challenge yourself to find the real truth of the Holy Bible and the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Watch LJ Caraangs YouTube videos my friend and his findings in the Holy Bible will hopefully spark you to see the Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,Khit mamatayan ka pa basta INC ka pa rin forever,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,"I feel and know your frustration! The INC doesn’t study or know coping knowledge of the Holy Bible. They only know the yearly recycling preaching that comes down to Membership and your money, thats what really keeps the INC alive. It’s very sad that this so called Church Cult/ Religion can draw you away from knowing Jesus Christ and the Love that he has for us all. It’s truly Satans work for Satan doesn’t want you to know the Love of Jesus. Think about it my friend the fact that your frustrated about the preaching of the INC, you know in your heart that the preaching of the INC is FALSE! The brainwashed and manipulated words of the Holy Bible that they preach is so TOXIC that it grasp ahold of each members soul and turns God into a punishing God which the members are afraid of. The guilt tripping and money offering commandment that they made up by using Gods name to control its members is so sickening. The INC Administration is a business run CULT, there main goal is to get money! The INC ministry is taught to make you believe of a new last messenger which is all fabricated and all lies. Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life, hopefully you can read it in the Bible and you’ll find this scripture or just search it on the internet. The other solution or advice to you is to get educated on the Holy Bible. The fact that you’ll see the truth of Jesus Christ’s Gospel it’ll set you free from frustration because you’ll know the real truth. Another advice is to watch LJ Caraangs YouTube videos, this will just give you a idea of how the INC is misinterpreting the Holy Bible and not preaching the Love of Jesus Christ.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,"The complete passage of Psalm 23 (6 verses) is inspiring and useful to one’s soul. INCult blasphemous butchering of the Bible 2 x a week and passing it as the words of God is purely brainwashing.
#stop going to INCult WS
#stop offering
Butchering the book of Psalms is an abomination from both spiritual and literary point of view. False preacher Felix Manalo and his stable of ministers have no respect for the painstaking efforts of ancient Jewish writers and subsequent translators to bring the written words of God to mankind.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,"Yes it is very CULTISH the fact that they propagate for the wrong reason of MEMBERSHIP. Christians propagate the “Word” of Jesus Christ’s Gospel that which INC members don’t know of, and that’s where all the brainwashed members reality is at. The InC members are “being led by a blind and controlling faith”. The money and wealth is their faith and what they go by, the fact that the INC Boasts about all the riches they have like Arena, jet planes, and properties. The Manalo Administration preaching is never about Jesus Christ’s Gospel (birth, miracles, percussions, crucification, resurrection, and Love ❤️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 04 - Aug 06, 2021)",oxjhy0,2021-08-03,"I also use to cringe about the preaching of the INC, but I stop doing that. I transferred that emotion by reading the Holy Bible and studying Jesus Christ’s gospel",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/oxjhy0/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_04_aug_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 07 - Aug 10, 2021)",ozld5x,2021-08-06,INC really needs to research history if they think the world is so bad these days because it was much worse in the past.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ozld5x/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_07_aug_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 07 - Aug 10, 2021)",ozld5x,2021-08-06,"* Topic: world = bad
* Deadly Themes mentioned: Don’t Leave the INC, Other Religions Are Wrong, Intensive Propagation (brief)
* I didn’t get the verses this time 😩😫
* Hymns: Please see 🎶 [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ovcdt3/august_2021_lineups/h789p6d/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) 🎶",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ozld5x/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_07_aug_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 07 - Aug 10, 2021)",ozld5x,2021-08-06,"They preach FEAR! If they preached The Love of Jesus Christ and his gospel there is no need to fear anything but God. They have no faith in Jesus Christ because they don’t preach his gospel. The INC goes on preaching the wicked world once again and uses it to cause FEAR on its members. If the members knew the gospel of Jesus Christ there would be nothing to fear, because having faith in Jesus Christ Christ is all what a human being needs. Our LORD and SAVIOR Jesus Christ, our Savior!!!! If Jesus Christ is not our savior I guess the Church Administration is.....because not once they preached about Jesus Christ’s gospel. Straight up brainwashed preaching over and over. Once the INC and Eduardo Manalo start preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ instead of Felix’s made up story, then I’ll truly know that they are somewhat knowing and leaning towards the truth of Christ Jesus.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ozld5x/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_07_aug_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 07 - Aug 10, 2021)",ozld5x,2021-08-06,"Well if they’re not going to use fear mongering, how else is INC going to sucker people out of their money quicker? *insert guy tapping head meme*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ozld5x/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_07_aug_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 07 - Aug 10, 2021)",ozld5x,2021-08-06,"That's just INC creating problems again so that they can sell the ""possible"" solution to their zealots (solution is not even guaranteed and there are no refunds obviously).
Yep! Definitely not a cult!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ozld5x/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_07_aug_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 07 - Aug 10, 2021)",ozld5x,2021-08-06,"INC is lucky that these days most countries allow them to preach, in the past you would be executed for heresy.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ozld5x/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_07_aug_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 07 - Aug 10, 2021)",ozld5x,2021-08-06,"Comparing today's ministers living standards and the ministers in the past, how could they say that the world today is worst than in the past? Do ministers today still walk many kilometers in a jungle to find another inc cult victim?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ozld5x/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_07_aug_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"Lesson was all about being an officer. A lot of constant imploring by the minister to become an officer, the church needs many new officers, it’s a holy duty, it’s a gift by god. Lesson repeatedly holds spiritual blackmail against officers to not leave their office, otherwise they won’t attain salvation.
No thanks, im not volunteering to put on that leash and be dogs of the ministers, administration and EVM. Dealing with INC twice a week is more than enough for me, no way in hell am I dealing with their BS every single day and lose out on so much precious time for myself.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"(Probably off topic sorry) I think this whole “holy city” or “salvation” bs isn’t as good as it seems. I mean on paper sure it’s like this perfect utopia where there is no more pain and suffering. But when you apply irl it just doesn’t work. In life, you need both the bad and the good to make life really worth it. If everything’s just perfect then what’s the point of living? Honestly, I’d rather be in hell with everyone else than be in heaven next to some fat, greedy, egotistical, psycho and his army of snobbish ministers and hypocrites.
Idk this was just a thought that popped in my head during the lesson about upholding an office in order to be saved or some bullshit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"if you don’t have an office, plz join… it’s a holy god given duty… the Bible said so not us… btw if you’re an officer, you can’t leave your office or else you won’t be saved lol
Classic INC cherry picking and out of context reading telling its members that the verses they are reading from the Bible is about being an officer in the church. I’m sure INC and Lord EVM knows it would backfire greatly if they started telling its members that they won’t be saved if they don’t become an officer.
Lesson does a poor job in selling regular members to become an officer tbh, makes it look more appealing to have no office since there’s no officer blood contract clause to deal with. Can’t risk salvation if there’s no office to leave 🧐🧠",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"Full of brainwashing and guilt-tripping again.. Don't leave your duties.. Don't do this, Don't do that.. Be righteous to administration, Jesus Christ and God, yadah yadah. Man, I realized I'd just be an ordinary member instead of being an officer lol... Officers = Manalo's slaves..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"Cult assministration's leader, little shit evm is asking for more MTs(Mukhang Tangas) or church officers. Minister also told the congregation that we should be more understanding of MTs duties. Fuck that, they stole my father they'll no get respect from me. I was raging the whole time the brainwasher was speaking about that.
Also, the minister made an analogy that the church should be treated as a ""nobya""/girlfriend and ~~Jesus Christ~~ little shit evm the ""nobyo""/boyfriend and that the church should be taken care of like a significant other.
Don't waste your time being a church slave y'all. Your child, wife, husband will hate you for it if they don't share the same beliefs as you which is highly likely.
Verdict: AmaaaAaaAaaAaaaaaa-ytungkulin
EDIT: Minor grammatical and spacing correction. Removed capitalization on evm's initial, he deserves zero, null, no respect.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"Another brainwashing of toxic material of preaching of a “Duty”, and of a “office” of the INC Administration. The minister continuing saying Jesus Christ’s name but never preached the truth of Jesus Christ’s Gospel. They manipulate and guilt trip the Duty of a Deacon, and other offices in the church by using Gods name as if it was a commandment of God to uphold a office in this Church CULT. The minister preaches Jesus Christ as the head of the church when Eduardo is praised more on how hard he works. That’s very sickening that they praise this man Eduardo as more then Jesus Christ, it’s like Eduardo sacrificed his life for our sins. They boasts so much of Eduardo’s traveling accomplishments around the world that it supposedly suppose to be equal as Jesus Christ’s accomplishment’s. Never once the minister ever mention of Jesus Christ’s accomplishment’s only that he is the head of the church, and perfect. How can the INC members be perfect like Jesus Christ when the members don’t even know Jesus Christ’s Gospel?!?! This is one of the brainwashing tactic used in the preaching of the INC, they only mention Jesus Christ’s name but never ever say anything about his gospel which is Jesus Birth, miracles, persecutions, crucification, resurrection, and most of all Jesus’s LOVE. One other sickening thing that the minister said that was so disgusting is about how Eduardo needed HELP spreading their faith. Eduardo Manalo needs no help, he needs members money!!! His luxury lifestyle that Eduardo and his family has is so great that the INC members praises it as a blessing of God. That’s the brainwashed tactic that poor members that are uneducated on the Bible fall for, they see the richness of material things that the INC has, and envy and praise its growth without knowing Jesus Christ’s gospel. The fact that the INC doesn’t preach the truth of Jesus Christ’s gospel all the wealth that the Eduardo Manalo family has is from the LIE’S of his ancestral history. Eduardo needs his brainwashed members to hold an office to work for free and use Gods name to guilt trip its members that holding an office is a God sent order. Full on bible manipulation of holding a position in a church, and that’s how they manipulate the offering of money too, by saying it’s a commandment of God. The sick brainwashed minister also mentioned buying a computer so a member can watch the worship service.....why not buy a Bible so that a member can read and put in practice the Holy teachings of Jesus Christ’s Gospel. Once again BRAINWASHING a member of the INC at its finest. Hopefully a true INC member can read my post and realize that he or she has been living a lie/hoax.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"Zoned in and out of the lessons as normal, but this one just reminded me of how much I was guilt-tripped and coerced into accepting multiple offices as a teenager and just went with it because I didn't have any confidence to stand up for myself and say no. I dropped all of them two years ago now but still get people if I'm going back",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"I don't even know where to begin.
All I could think about was ""make it stop! Make it stop!""
The lesson was about getting an office duty for the church or should I say cult because EVM needs free laborers to help him stay rich and in power.
They said that those who refuse to take office are neglecting the church and that means they go to hell.
Then as if that wasn't infuriating enough, they even said what was expected of church officers. Propagation and church activities and shit! Be an officer till you die or till doomsday comes! They don't care about your well being, they only want to exploit you!
Dont be arrogant they say, don't be harsh on your words they say. If they actually followed those, I wouldn't be feeling this dread everytime someone from INC messages me. I wouldn't have to block or ignore them!
Damn, even the hymn was about church duties.
I tell you all, DO NOT TAKE OFFICE FOR THE CHURCH...EVER!
There's no ""blessing"" in being an officer! It's toxic and stressful, they'll only reward you with more expectations and demands that will wear you down physically and mentally.
Not to mention they don't even care about the dangers they're putting you in especially in the times of the pandemic.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"It’s funny how my mother keeps telling me that you have the option to step down in your office if you want to, but this worship service tells otherwise lmao",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"(Late to the party, but here I go)
* TOPIC: being officers in the church
* DT: Don’t Leave the INC, The Administration (brief), Detractors (brief), Intensive Propagation (brief)
* Philippians 1:6
* Ecclesiastes 9:10
* Luke 9:62
* Ephesians 4:1-2
* Jeremiah 1:18-19
* I Kings 2:3-4
* Ephesians 4:11-13
* Ephesians 5:27
* Isaiah 62:6, 1
* Mark 13:32-36
* I Corinthians 15:58
* Hebrews 6:10-12
* Preacher claims everyone, even non-officers, should attend the officers’ prayer. How much time do these guys think we have?
* Preacher claims we are not serving any person. Hey preacher guy? I think EVM and his administration would beg to differ…
* Hymns: please see [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ovcdt3/august_2021_lineups/h789p6d/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
* Edit: format",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"The funny thing that the minister had an Freudian slip saying, ""we need more officers"" and quickly rephrase is as ""God needs mor officer"" lmao",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"Then the amaaaaahh!!!, amaaahhh!! maawa ka!! prayer seals the deal..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,[pasugo](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/m5qkxv/if_this_is_the_case_why_does_inc_demands_its/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) ☺,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"Not to mention that once you have an office already, you’re basically guilt tripped into taking on many others and it’s your fault if you can’t balance it. At this point I think the administration is just making up offices because what the hell is a “sports and arts committee chairperson” like ???",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,At least Hell would have racial diversity. Holy City about to end up 94.1% Filipino,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,Everyday would be a EVM PPV 😵💫,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"I recalled a fellow officer a few years back. He opened the conversion that we will have new bodies in the holy city once we attain salvation right? How about our memories? He told me that he have asked ministers/mwa about this bugging question of his.. he says their answers have different version.
1.Some says even memories are wipe out so that you will not question/judge people who's with you in the holy city.
2. Some says certain mystery of the bible should not be questioned and just have faith.
3. Some will go its only the body are upgraded to a glorious form suitable for the living and serving in the holy city.
There I was silent and mindfcked realizing these scenarios.
1. Since my memory will be wipe out clean, seem like the all the hardships that i endure during my tenure in this church will be wipe out clean too they will be no feeling of fulfilment then. All those prayers about meeting our loved ones who passed away is just bs since we would not recognized each other at the holy city
2. Just say that you are not master of your bible as claim since you only study how to ''effectively defend"" your church teachings
3. Yeah right everyday church singing and services with that upgraded body no feeling of tiredness or whatever well. at least no more monetary offerrings. XD
Edit. Weird thing is that said officer still a hardcore owe",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,Man being an ordinary member would be less stress without all the salaysays you have to make just to perform your duties. It’s crazy. You give free labor and you gotta make a formal excuse to the district why you missed your performance then they decide whether your worthy enough to perform again. Shit sounds insane now that I think about it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,">Mukhang Tangas
You had me at ""Mukhang Tangas"" haha I was laughing my lungs out 😆😆",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"Definitely. Growing up in INCult for decades, not once was I told that the first 4 books of NT (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) was the story of Jesus.
I once was blind but now I see.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 11 - Aug 13, 2021)",p24i0c,2021-08-10,"Hopefully all INC members can see and listen to the truth of what Jesus Christ’s Gospel is all about, also for them to see that all the LIE’s and manipulation that they’ve been listening to",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p24i0c/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_11_aug_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"Dying in the church of Christ, INC are going to be the first people to be resurrected when Christ returns, Finish the spiritual race…
One thing that stood out to me, Minister was talking about proof that INC is the true church, and he used a verse (not Lamsa) that contained the phrase “church of Christ”. I’m pretty sure it was Hebrews 12:23. However, I cannot pinpoint which translation INC cherry picked because literally every translation I am looking at says something like church of the first born wtf?! Minister was even proudly waving the Bible he read off of like it was ironclad irrefutable proof lol. Anybody know what obscure Bible they are using that says their magic phrase?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"The true fact that the INC has rewritten the Holy Bible with the “fundamental teachings of the Iglesia Ni Christo” (a book that was made by the INC to interpret the Bible)that their ministry teaches is already a fine example of falsifying the true meaning of the Holy Bible’s “WORD” of God.
A true Christian would follow the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The misinterpretation and brainwashing of the INC members preaching has blinded these members to see the TRUTH of Jesus Christ’s LOVE. Hopefully a INC member can see my post so that they can analyze themselves if they truly know Jesus Christ as the last messenger or if they know Felix Manalo as the last messenger.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"Lesson was about that ""finish your race"", ""end is near"" and ""holy city"" stuff again. How one should be happy to live and die as INC.
Then they proceed to promote blind obedience to the church administration and ask for ""voluntary offerings"" as well as helping in the cult activities, propagation and attending worship ""brainwashing"" service again.
Typical INC stuff, nothing enlightening. Never ceases to cringe me.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"ah yes another snoozefest
FYI, you guys think it would be a good idea to put the estimated amount of time the lessons take? or is the variation from minister to minister too varied?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"* Topic/Condensed Title: Finish our Spiritual Race (a.k.a. Embrace Our ~~Membershits~~ Memberships)
* DT: Don’t Leave
* 2 Timothy 4:7-8
* 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
* Rev. 3:11
* 2 Tim. 2:5
* Hebrews 12:1
* Heb. 12:22-23
* 1 Cor. 9:24-25
* 1 Cor. 9:26-27
* 1 Cor. 15:58
* Ps. 18:31-33
* Heb. 10:35-36
* Hymns: Please see [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ovcdt3/august_2021_lineups/h789p6d/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"Slept through it all, minister probably said that we shouldn't sleep during our run(towards eternal ~~salvation~~ damnation). But I don't care anymore, its the same repeated bullshit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,Its so silly how they have to cherry pick the very few translations that say church of Christ.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"Hebrews 12:23 Remedy New Testament is the translation. Dumb AF proof considering it uses lowercase c “church of Christ” and Remedy was published in freaking 2017.
INC using a bible one century after Felix registered the church to say that’s proof they are the true church, omg Felix Manalo not only was the last messenger, he was also a time traveler!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"They really need to write their own translation that is sprinkled with ""Church of Christ"". (Note the capitalization) There are no translations that use the upper case ""C"" in ""Church"". On the other hand, maybe they need to change their own name from ""Iglesia ni Cristo"" to ""iglesia ni Cristo""?!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,Always the same boring crap! Sorry that you had to hear that same recycled garbage. I wish you could join some of us folks who left that god forsaken nasty awful evil organization.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"Some ministers can drag a short lesson to exceed an hour with dramatics. However, we can gauge the length of a service with the HWS material. It’s usually a 3-5 page script.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"Its around an hour, if the minister is average. Less than hour if the minister is young and can speak coherent English. 1 hour 30 minutes if the minister is old and tries so hard to speak in English while praising little shit evm's glorious balls.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"Because if they don’t cherry pick, then it will not match their narrative. I just don’t understand why some members continue to swallow these godawful sermons and claimed that they’re the truth. I get it that some are there because they’re forced to but at the same time, I wish members who are still asleep would wake up already!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"I remember from a past WS a couple months ago, they used a translation that actually contained the upper case “C”. 1 Corinthians 12:12 (Weymouth New Testament)
I believe Felix was the one who used Romans 16:16 “churches of Christ” and Erano was the one who introduced Acts 20:28 Lamsa “church of Christ”. Looks like both Felix and Erano overlooked and skipped over the Weymouth translation. Interestingly, Weymouth was published in 1903 compared to Lamsa that was published in 1933 and came after Felix.
I’m pretty sure EVM and co. scour all possible translations in an attempt to cover up the Acts 20:28 “church of Christ” fallacy and to give the illusion that “Church of Christ can be found in the bible. They don’t use Weymouth as THE verse, because it’s way too late, they have been all in on Acts 20:28 Lamsa for so long, since the days of EGM",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"Definitely the same repetitive and boring crap yesterday.
My wife and I actually had a somewhat honest conversation about the church prior to yesterday's service. I ask about one of her friends granddaughter, who I haven't seen in the service in a while. My wife said, she grew cold. Then she mentioned two others that had stepped down from offices and might be leaving. We have a small Locale, so this sort of thing is very noticeable.
She blamed Covid, but then I mentioned all the young members in our locale and a neighboring one that have left since the 2015 controversy. I said it might be all the issues in the administration and the repetitive lessons having an impact. She grudgingly admitted I might be right. I was quietly shocked.
I think the administration is very clueless (in addition to greedy). The more members they lose, the more they use the same boring and recycled lessons. They really don't know what to do. I wouldn't be surprised if the membership numbers in the US are halved over the next 20 years.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"Thanks. I'm trying to work as hard as I can to get myself out of this. I'm also trying my best to slowly and carefully red pill my parents and brothers. I hope they wake up someday.
They're already questioning the current administration but they still believe in the FYM narrative.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,ah damn never mind then. guess i'll just be daydreaming until the lesson is done again.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"It’s interesting that your wife admitted about the boring lessons. Perhaps deep down inside she felt the same but I don’t she will venture outside the box as of yet or even dig deeper as to why she grudging admitted it. I think she and many like her will use other outside forces such as COVID as the source of the members discontent. Because it is much easier to blame it on other things than to research about the church doctrines.
It’s not easy for most members who grew up albeit born inside the church. It’s like a rude awakening and it is painful for most of them. They identify the church as past of their identity and it’s so difficult for them to separate from that. My own mother-in-law reluctantly admitted to my husband that she sometimes fall asleep during the worship service because it’s down right boring but like your wife, she would always blame it on others, such as that that she didn’t get enough sleep the night before or it’s the minister’s fault because he is boring or any of that nonsensical reasons. She even went as far as saying that she fully understood why so many of the younger generation had left. However, she also said that she will leave.
I agree with you that the administration doesn’t care and every bit as clueless. Perhaps it’s arrogance on their part that since they believed that they’re the true church that they expect everyone to take it or leave it. That somehow it is beneath them to try to reach out to the entire congregation to show that they care of their feelings.
As to the memberships here in the US, yes it’s been decreasing for many years now. I came from one of largest locale in my home state and when my family and I left in 2018, only the 3rd row of the main chapel were filled during Sundays and it’s even worse during the weekdays. A decade before, the overflow were packed that some of the worshippers had to sit in the foyer, hallways, and some even in the offices.
It’s not just my former locale because several of my in-laws informed us that the same is happening in their respective locales. I think one of the locale got closed or they stopped renting it and they moved back to their main chapel.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,Good for you and the fact that they’re questioning the current administration is progress. It’s tough for members who were born inside the church to separate from FYM’s narrative. Just be patient. Good luck 👍,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"Pretty much. Also, recently the scripts have been 3 pages, some recycled from the late Glicerio Santos Jr.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 14 - Aug 17, 2021)",p40384,2021-08-13,"I also know of a couple of rented halls that have closed up. And I noticed they haven't updated their website with the information. Good luck to anyone who travels and tries to use the inc online directory as a way to find a locale to worship in.
My wife is not an OWE, but there is almost no chance she would leave, to much family pressure and history.
Fwiw, I do think the administration cares, as the shrinking numbers are costing them real money. But I don't think they have the slightest clue as to how to deal with it. They could make things easier for the normal members, stop pushing them so hard. That might slow the drain, so to speak. But instead, they just ratchet down more as more members leave. And its mostly young members, at least that I can see, so it doesn't bode well for the long term future of the church.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p40384/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_14_aug_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 18 - Aug 20, 2021)",p6ipji,2021-08-17,"Importance of the worship service. Strong emphasis on the importance of giving offerings with the minister plugging various “voluntary” offerings such as local offering, district offering, aid to humanity, setting aside for end year thanksgiving, worldwide donation next month. Propagation and the reward waiting for us in the holy city.
Get ready for the Tuloys, whatever dumb things EVM will brag about regarding INC, the fake ass prayer he always does at the end… Weekend WS will be a lord EVM PPV",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p6ipji/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_18_aug_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 18 - Aug 20, 2021)",p6ipji,2021-08-17,"* The privilege of worshiping God
* Deadly Themes: Other Religions Are Wrong, Don’t Leave the INC
* Mentioned Only: The Administration, Detractors, Intensive Propagation
* 1 Peter 1:13, 3-4
* Eph. 2:19
* Heb. 12:22-23
* Rom. 2:7
* Ps 16:7, 9-11 [?]
* 1 Tim. 6:18-19
* John 4:36
* 1 Peter 1:6-7
* James 1:12
* Isa. 65:17-19
* Jude 1:23
* Hymns: Please see [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ovcdt3/august_2021_lineups/h78axu4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
**My Comments**
* Hymn 79 includes lyrics about grace that only Christ can bestow. However, many if not all ministers and workers will likely substitute EVM for Christ, then insist that INC will never contradict the Bible. How these preachers don’t seem to question such practices, I’ll never understand.
* I still don’t understand how INC expects 6 converts per household when its self-service and other cult tactics would repel any rational-minded person. Maybe a minister or worker could (or at least delude himself into thinking said campaign is reasonable)?
* 🤮🤮 PPV this weekend. 🤮🤮",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p6ipji/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_18_aug_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 18 - Aug 20, 2021)",p6ipji,2021-08-17,"Worshit Service was so mind numbingly boring since it’s just the same regurgitated BS. I did manage to catch that they read the alternative to their precious Acts 20:28 Lamsa, Hebrews 12:22-23 “the true church of Christ whose identities are stored in heaven”. Other than that, the lesson went in one ear and out the other.
Ah shit, here we go again. The holy God Emperor Eduardo Manalo graces us with his presence via WebEx next WS. I usually attend the English subtitles/English prayers and people still freaking cry hysterically when the prerecorded English prayer is played. EVM probably going to drag shit out again talking about the anniversaries of locales. I also hate how at the end, they always force us regular members to stay for the officers prayer like wtf I’m no officer just let me go home. It’s so stupid, even in the officers prayer they pray for the God Emperor lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p6ipji/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_18_aug_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 18 - Aug 20, 2021)",p6ipji,2021-08-17,"Lesson was about attending brainwashing service, offer money and finding other people to brainwash as ""encouraged"" by Lord EVM.
That way we are doing ""good"" works and ""prove"" the we are brainwashed, I mean truly faithful.
Also, we must never leave INC because this is where God's Love is (And where EVM can exploit us some more) and the world is such a terrible place as usual.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p6ipji/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_18_aug_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 18 - Aug 20, 2021)",p6ipji,2021-08-17,I can't believe how many translations were used. Must of been 6 or 7,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p6ipji/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_18_aug_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 18 - Aug 20, 2021)",p6ipji,2021-08-17,"Slept through the worship service, I did hear that fat boi eddie will try to coerce members again through webex services this weekend.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p6ipji/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_18_aug_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 18 - Aug 20, 2021)",p6ipji,2021-08-17,"me a frugal b.... 10 pesos handog 5 pesos per other shitty offering idgf and a 100 pesos streetfood outside and 20 pesos extra when i see a beggar.
goes on for 5 years before finally ghosting inc.
i dunno if I'm an asshol\* years ago or not because the guilt of not doing everything at the maximum effort they want me to do. because i always think since i was 5 if god loves me he wont be angry even if i did not do what inc people tells me what to do as long as im a good person.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p6ipji/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_18_aug_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 18 - Aug 20, 2021)",p6ipji,2021-08-17,"Once again the INC false preaching sells its way to heaven by giving more offerings and using GoDs name to guilt trip its brainwashed members to put away money for their next thanksgiving (which is another false doctrine). It’s not your Money that God wants, and it’s not also a COMMANDMENT of GOD to put away money to give to the church. That whole setting aside and monitored offerings is not from the heart. It’s more like TACTIC money scheme that tracks your money for the profits of the INC administration that keeps them successful. The brainwashed and TOXIC way the INC Administration guilt trips it’s members to make them believe that money offerings is a commandment of GOD is a SiCKness of greed for money. A fine example of this is when Eduardo ex-communicated or expelled his own MOM and other relative from the Church all because of money. This is a sick and devilish way of mentality that this leader Eduardo Manalo is!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p6ipji/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_18_aug_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 18 - Aug 20, 2021)",p6ipji,2021-08-17,"Not doing Saturday PPV, as I have an important meeting at 9am - with a JD Wetherspoon Large Breakfast !!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p6ipji/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_18_aug_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 18 - Aug 20, 2021)",p6ipji,2021-08-17,Wow. I wonder what translation they used since most mainstream translations have “… church of the firstborn…”,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p6ipji/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_18_aug_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 18 - Aug 20, 2021)",p6ipji,2021-08-17,Holy fuck little shit is evm is going to do webshit services this weekend?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p6ipji/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_18_aug_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 18 - Aug 20, 2021)",p6ipji,2021-08-17,Kaasar yan. Yung hindi pa papaalisin yung mga kapatid para sumabay na sa panata ng mga mt. Nakakasira ng araw.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p6ipji/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_18_aug_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 18 - Aug 20, 2021)",p6ipji,2021-08-17,100%. And it’s a sure thing that the God Emperor is about to guilt trip everyone for more money to pay for his designer suits and 1% lifestyle this coming weekend WS,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p6ipji/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_18_aug_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 18 - Aug 20, 2021)",p6ipji,2021-08-17,"The INC is losing members, and Lord Manalo thinks he is the only one who can stop it, not seeming to realize all the changes he makes are contributing heavily to the decline. And his boring, overlong, services with the repetitive prayers don't help either.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p6ipji/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_18_aug_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 18 - Aug 20, 2021)",p6ipji,2021-08-17,Yes unfortunately 🤮,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p6ipji/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_18_aug_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"Opened up with milestone anniversaries for locales. Spent like 15 minutes talking about how this world is only going to get worse. We’re in the true church of Christ > Acts 20:28 LAMSA being read. I was wondering how they would display the verse since I was attending the English w/subtitles PPV. Interestingly, the English subtitles showed the lowered case c “church of Christ”.
EVM talked about Adversity, our hope for the promised salvation, and the importance of attending worship service. At one point, EVM was bragging about a so called conversation he had with an (unnamed) high official from another religion as to how INC is doing well despite the pandemic. Like last PPV, EVM bragged and claimed that all other religions are failing except INC. As usual, EVM ended with the cringe faux prayer.
Omg the prayers…. Prayers are so blasphemous ESPECIALLY in these PPVs. EVM got so much special attention especially in the prayer following the sermon… Minister opened up the prayer with lines dedicated to EVM, mid prayer minister prayed for EVM again, and near the end, EVM got prayed for yet again. They BARELY prayed for Jesus…. Officer’s prayer prayed for EVM again with ZERO mention of Jesus Christ.
What an absolute waste of time, EVM just regurgitated the usual recycled BS we’re all used to hearing. Such an unnecessary PPV that really just strokes EVM’s ego.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"My sister, a minister's wife, always bragging about many church buildings from other religions being purchased by the cult. I asked her, is your god really happy that the church bought him a second hand old church building already being used to worship the other god before him? before the inc acquire it?? This other church buildings buying thing from inc cult worship service lesson propaganda is all about ego and brainwashing its members to give more money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"This dude EVM mentioned how he’s all about the lockdown and rules in order to mitigate the pandemic, Yet INC forces a ton of locales to attend in person with zero social distancing 🤬
Also, he keeps bringing up fake unnamed sources about other religions wtf. I was so relieved to hear his “prayer” at the end, because I was so freaking bored. I hate those asshole members that tap you awake leave me alone dammit. God it’s so annoying how much they suck up EVM.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"Facken hell, a few days ago, I was casually scrolling through this group when somebody mentioned a song ""We are one with EVM"". Initially, i thought the user was trolling but holy shit I saw it on youtube. This was the first time I heard in any religion and belief system dedicating a freaking hell-born song to a human? I wasnt able to finish the song. Man, it gave me all the creeps. Fck, even in the comments section, everyone's worshipping and praising manalo and shit. The INC continues to claim that they do not ""worship"" Manalo but composes a song for him and continues to persecute Jesus Christ. What the actual fck.
Edit: It's ""I am with EVM"" pala not ""We"" lmao",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"What really counts is the relationship between the human soul, Jesus, and God. The Holy Spirit and the free gift of grace is not given to those who feel comfort in a religion that speaks of condemning people of different faith and of other religions, certainly won’t be felt in a place of worship that lets any human other than Jesus Christ judge and exclude brethren for their wrongdoing, and most definitely not in a religion that drags the Spirit down, teaching that the human soul will never be good enough for their own salvation.
Iglesia Ni Cristo is total blasphemy, denying that Jesus is the last messenger and putting EVM, a random regular man, on the pedestal, further rejecting His teachings and bending the rules of the Bible to fit his man-made prophecy.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"**Overview**
* Topic: safeguard membership in the INC
* Deadly Themes: Don't Leave the INC, Other Religions are Wrong
**Verses**
* Isa. 13:7-8, 11, 6
* Isa. 44:8
* Luke 21:28 (repeated in Amplified translation)
* Isa. 30:18-21 \[?\]
* 1 Peter 13:3-4, 13
* Isa. 65:17-19
* Ps. 73:26, 24
* 2 Corin. 4:8-9, 16-18
* Ps. 119:81-83, 114
* Ps. 32:6
**Comments/Observations**
* Prayer Lengths (Approximate)
* Officers' Prayer: 3:27
* Opening Prayer: 5:46
* Closing Prayer: 9:08
* Officers' Prayer: 1:22
* Total: 19:43
* Tuloy Tally/Continue Count: 59
* low estimate; could be higher
* Sermon Length: 58 min
* Total PPV Length: 1 hour, 35 min
* Manalo claims to acknowledge the importance of lockdowns. If such a claim holds true, why does the INC favor face-to-face gatherings over video conferencing? Even with the new variant and its potential, the organization refuses to return to web-based gatherings.
* Manalo also claims INC prepared for the lockdown, failing to acknowledge that, by the end of March 2020 (when INC resorted to video conferencing for the WSes), the virus was already widespread while INC still held in-person WSes, claiming its deity will protect his worshipers from any sickness.
* Hymns: Please see [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ovcdt3/august_2021_lineups/h9s53xw?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).
* Edited for fluency.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"Did you noticed that Eduardo Manalo used Psalm 32:6 in the last part of the PPV service and change the wordings of the text to suit the agenda of the administration?
The original is:
""Therefore let all the **faithful** pray to you while you may be found; surely the rising of the mighty waters will not reach them."" - *NIV*
""Therefore, let everyone who is **godly** pray to You \[for forgiveness\] in a time when You \[are near and\] may be found; Surely when the great waters \[of trial and distressing times\] overflow they will not reach \[the spirit in\] him."" - *Amplified Bible*
HE CHANGED THE WORD ""GODLY"" or ""FAITHFUL"" to ""WORSHIPERS OR THOSE WHO WORSHIP"". To emphasize the importance of attendance in the Mind controlling sessions or worsh1t service. Just to suit their agenda for you to attend the mind controlling repetition of lessons and also the bottom line is to collect abuloys from members.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,So glad this stuff is on webex seriously. Imagine we had to go to church and watch this snooze fest. Also his faux prayers sounds the same every time. Can’t believe he’s even allowed to pray with his eyes opened.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,Lemme guess 1.5 hour total with this bs ppv? Well fck..time to day drink again 😂..sounds like lord fat bitch is trying to make a come back..2nd ppv in what 2 weeks??,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"I wasn’t giving my full attention (as usual) so I might be wrong, but I noticed that too on the last PPV. How he said some religions have asked INC for help. Weird flex, but ok. Didn’t want to say sources. For all we know he’s making that shit up.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,And by your comments it totally justify’s that the Iglesia Ni Christo is a full on CULT!! Im glad that the whole brainwashing tactics that they use are clearly seen by most of you members on this Subreddit. Imagine my friends the preaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ has been replaced by the TOXIC teachings of the Manalo family tree.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,Honga. Should be brand new,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"Please show your sister this verse 1 Corinthians 1:27-29. The whole INC administration, Ministers and members are totally brainwashed and very Toxic, and are led by the works of Satan. Just by you examining Corinthians 1:27-29 you’ll see why I say that Satan has corrupted the minds of INC members mentality. Very, Very Toxic preaching that the devil has put in the mind of the INC preaching and members. If possible let me know what your sister says after reading the scripture I advise you to read. I wanna hear her response of what she says about that scripture. Also show her Hebrews 1 and examine it on how Gods words say “in these last days the last messenger is his son”.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"Other god? Which churches are these? You do know Catholics, Jews, and Muslims technically are worshipping the same god as INC right?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"I can't speak irt what happens in the Philippines, but I know that a few of the Churches in the US they bought were available because the church selling them outgrew its property.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,Yeah. Always boasting about the number of church’s being built and bought. Inc pretty much forgot we’re suppose to worship God and Jesus. When they glorify something it’s the church or evm.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,Wait till you see the horrible INC Kids songs....,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"That song was released during the scandal era in 2015. If that scandal never happened, it probably would have not been composed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"I am not sure why this is in the ""Weekend Worship Service Examination"" thread. Perhaps repost it in the ""Open discussion thread"" if it doesn't relate directly to the present weekend worship service. Cheers.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,Thanks. I always enjoy this kind of posts.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,Thanks. To this i can act as if im attending,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"To bad we can't come up with a drinking game for the ppv. Everytime he repeats himself, have to take a shot. Another for tuloy. I would be drunk in 5 minutes.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"That’s what the Iglesia Ni Christo Cult does best! They misinterpret the words of the Holy Bible to suite their own teachings. The most famous verse that they’ve use and totally misinterpreted is the “ends of the Earth” verse that they totally butcher each time they preach it. Another Toxic and total FALSE preaching is when they pray and say that “Eduardo Manalo is our Salvation”, totally TOXIC and false. Imagine my friends they’ve replaced Jesus Christ’s gospel as Christ Jesus is our savior in these last days in the words of God. That’s a big reason the Iglesia Ni Christo don’t preach Jesus Christ’s Gospel, if they did the whole Felix Manalo crap would all make sense on why it’s all BULlSHIT to all their brainwashed members. Look up and examine the scriptures of Hebrews 1 and see what Gods words explain.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,I’m jealous you get to sit through this bs without having to go to church lol. Unfortunately our locale has us watch these EVM services at the chapel 😤,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,Lucky! Our locale is back to f2f despite rising cases in our area!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,he needs to read the prayer ;),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"Of course he can pray with his eyes open. Remember, the cult members hold him at a higher (and steel reinforced) pedestal than the sky daddy and his son.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,Remember: INC never used prayers from the bible because repetitive prayer is bad and not sincere! But if you listen closely every INC prayer is the same shit just rephrased a bit. So that means INC is going against its own teachings.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"You bet, prayers that felt like they went 10+ minutes and EVM stretched this as much as he could, interrupting his Bible reading assistant every opportunity he got. So many TULOY breaks as usual lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"> lord fat bitch
Thank you for this term lol. I will use it now",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"In that comment of what Eduardo said he should have mentioned that he has helped other churches that needed help, because that’s what Christians do if they are true Christians.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"I think if that was actually true, he would have cited specific examples. As it is, I believe it about as much as I believe his claim that the INC hasn't been negatively impacted by the pandemic. In other words, I don't believe it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,Bilyon bilyon ang nalikom nilang abuloy tapos bilhan lang nila ng second hand church building ang diyos nila. Matutuwa kaya diyos nila nyan?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"And without blemish. Also, should NOT be offered to idols or others god before unlike 2nd hand churches",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,Sorry i am agnostic now.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"inc doesn't worship jc as a god, graven idols and images.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,its like theyre applying to a 'best cult' university or applying for a 'senior cult management' job and theyre padding out their CV with these useless vanity metrics. Who are they trying to impress? The uto-utos?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,Look up 1 Corinthians 1:27-29 and examine how the Holy Bible explains “Boasting” and you’ll be blessed to know that the INC’s preaching is very Toxic and False.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,Yea I think Im good here bro. The creeps are way worse than Outlast haha.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,Ohh so they composed that enchantment to remediate the situation huh? Makes sense,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,You’re welcome 😊,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,You’re welcome 😁,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,Hahha do it! 😏,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"Seriously. He just wanted to brag, I guess.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,Si evm pa ang pinapasalamatan nila pag nakapag tayo ng bagong kapilya napakalaking tarp salamat po ka evm,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"They do worship the Manalo family. They claim they don't, but the way they treat them is the definition of worship.
Definition of worship
reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred.
They definitely worship the Manalo as a sacred personage. They act as if Manalo is more sacred to them than Christ.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 21 - Aug 24, 2021)",p8jq11,2021-08-20,"Salamat po ka evm. Dahil sa mga binigay naming walang humpay na abuloy, ipinagpatayo mo kami ng kapilya. toinks!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 25 - Aug 27, 2021)",pb2kfd,2021-08-24,"The lesson is basically saying do not be yourself, be what they (the church admin) wants you to be. Because that's what being ""godly"" and being ""spiritually mature"" is.
Of course they then told us to go to church activities and help in propagations again, ugh!
Then comes the bragging about EVM being successful in expanding the church or something. They said INC members are increasing (bullshit, why won't they show us proof instead of telling us this crap again and again?), more officers and lokales or whatever.
I felt like I needed to take a shower afterwards.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pb2kfd/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_25_aug_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 25 - Aug 27, 2021)",pb2kfd,2021-08-24,"**Overview**
* Topic: How Those with Godly Character Are Spiritually Mature
* Deadly Theme: Intensive Propagation
**Verses**
* Proverbs 8:5
* Ephesians 4:11-13
* Ephesians 4:1
* Colossians 3:12
* Philippians 2:5, 4
* Philippians 2:3, 2
* Philippians 1:27 *[intensive propagation mentioned here]*
* Ephesians 4:16
* 2 Corinthians 13:11
[**Hymns**](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ovcdt3/august_2021_lineups/h78axu4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pb2kfd/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_25_aug_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 25 - Aug 27, 2021)",pb2kfd,2021-08-24,"Lesson was all about being “spiritually mature”. I’m pretty sure they said the usual recycled garbage about being active, church activities, and such. I remember our minister plugging our district offering at the end of the month. That’s all I could remember lol. I was tired AF and dozed on and off. My brain went to sleep mode from the nonsense rambling.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pb2kfd/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_25_aug_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 25 - Aug 27, 2021)",pb2kfd,2021-08-24,It’s such a blessing that members of the Iglesia Ni Christo can vent on this Subreddit forum and notice the repetitive preaching and lie’s of the INC. Hopefully you guys can learn more of the full Gospel of Christ Jesus and rid yourselves of the Toxic teachings of the INC Administration.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pb2kfd/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_25_aug_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 25 - Aug 27, 2021)",pb2kfd,2021-08-24,"So basically their God is telling members to lie about themselves.
As for the church activities, I hope they’re aware that we’re still in the pandemic with now the delta variant, more lethal than the original version. Are they doing something about this? I hardly think so.
EVM is a liar. INC is not expanding - if anything, they’re in downside spiral and getting worse. But as the saying goes, if a lie is told so many times that the person saying it becomes true in his head. Yup, EVM is delusional!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pb2kfd/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_25_aug_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 25 - Aug 27, 2021)",pb2kfd,2021-08-24,Just saying thanks ahead of time for this post here because I know certain people's parents do test their kids to see if they were paying attention during the lesson.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pb2kfd/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_25_aug_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 25 - Aug 27, 2021)",pb2kfd,2021-08-24,"Ah shit, here we go again. I don't have plans on attending anyway. Will just say I forgot to flip the fucking piece of heavenly holy plastic.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pb2kfd/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_25_aug_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Aug 25 - Aug 27, 2021)",pb2kfd,2021-08-24,"Good for you. And the more members who won’t attend, then it’s worse for the cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pb2kfd/midweek_worship_service_examination_aug_25_aug_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,"Lesson was about going over the history of people in the Bible that had absolute faith and hope in God. Then after going over these various stories, the lesson than relates this to INC and INC membership.
First part of the lesson were overviews of various people in the Bible like Abraham, Job, Habakkuk, who had strong faith, hope, and absolute trust in God. First part of the lesson was actually pretty tolerable to listen to. First half of the lesson focused on stories from the Bible without really injecting the twisted INC narrative, just jumping from one story to the next without the classic out of context INC gospel twisting. This is probably on our minister who preached the lesson. Some ministers go on tangents after tangents after reading a verse. We had a younger minister that kind of bulldozed through the lesson while our much older resident minister would go on tangents after tangents after reading a verse and the lesson would’ve ended up being 20 minutes longer.
It’s after the minister read these stories of great faith, that in the second half of the lesson, in comes the classic out of context INC twisting to sabotage the message from the Bible. Lesson then relates these stories from the Bible to INC, talk about Felix Manalo, say the usual spiel about holding on to the membership, the usual recycled garbage.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,"Bakit kapag handugan kailangan may pangalan na inilalagay? Para ba ito sa added points sa pangalan mong ""nakatala sa aklat ng buhay sa langit?"" Tnx po",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,"Here’s a VERY VERY TOXIC note that the Iglesia Ni Christo preaches when they pray….they pray that “we feel Gods love through him” and him being Eduardo Manalo. The INC replaced Jesus Christ’s Gospel by this type of practice of prayer and the brainwashed members don’t even see what they’re being taught the fact that the members are not taught the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Members of the Iglesia Ni Christo please read Colossians 1:15 and the whole scripture, you all are truly brainwashed and need to see the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Please read the New Testament starting with Mathew or watch LJ Caraangs YouTube videos to get started to see the Toxic and misinterpretation of how the INC’s preaching is false.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,"Although I did not get the verses, I hope I can still share some of the highlights.
* How the Servants of God Face Situations That Can Cause Hopelessness
* Leave it to my preacher to force “Don’t Leave the INC” into the sermon.
* For today’s hymns, please see [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ovcdt3/august_2021_lineups/h78axu4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,"Though I see myself as Agnostic but I grew in the Russian Orthodox Church that placed great importance of Virgin Mary. She's described as Theotokos because she gave life to the savior Jesus Christ. She's highly regarded and she's often regarded as the Queen of the Heaven.
I have fond memories growing up in ROC and I wished with all my heart that I never joined INC. Perhaps there's a part of me that wouldn't be Agnostic but 20 years inside INC left me nothing but horrors when it comes to religion.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,“1 Corinthians 3” I just read this whole verse in the Bible and it speaks of man and church leaders that we should not BOAST about. Iglesia Ni Christo members should read and truly examine this scripture to see some truth of how the INC is preaching its false doctrine,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,"So cult finance officers can do ""chismis""/""gossip"" who gave the most and gave the least.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,Ligtas points! Based on church cherry picked 10 commandments,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,"I remember when I was young (di bale mga hs pa ako), nahihiya ako na maglagay ng maliit dyan or barya. Nape-pressure ako na dapat malaki laman kasi nakakahiya makikita pangalan ko tapos ganun lang laman.
Actually di ko naiisip na baka magalit si God na maliit lagay ko pero ang negative ng nasa isip ko na baka may manjudge sakin sa kapilya since maliit lagay ko.
Nahihiya pa ako iabot, ayoko makita ng iba.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,">they pray that “we feel Gods love through him” and him being Eduardo Manalo.
Back in 2019 this was never a thing, can someone confirm this is actually happening???",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,So now EVM is the one to connect the members to God? Whatever happened to Jesus? Next thing you know EVM will be the savior.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,"It’s so disgusting, but you are 100% right, that’s exactly what they do.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,"I heard it today my friend, this is a prayer that’s at the end of the service. I like to listen to the prayer’s that these ministers preach and analyze the TOXIC information that brainwash their members, but it gets worse they also preach that “for the sake of our salvation bless Eranyo Manalo”. There are more TOXIC preaching I can mention that the INC CULT preaches, lmk if you wanna hear another one. Out of curiosity in 2019 did the Iglesia Ni Christo ever preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,"This is why you’ll never here the Gospel of Jesus Christ mentioned in the preaching of the Iglesia Ni Christo church. They’ll mention Jesus Christ’s name and say he’s our savior but never mention Jesus Christ’s gospel which we as Christians should imitate. Jesus Christ’s Birth and the Virgin Mary will never be mentioned because that’s the start of Jesus’s gospel. You’ll never hear the miracles, persecution, crucification, resurrection, and most of all LOVE of Jesus Christ’s Gospel being mentioned in the Iglesia Ni Christo. The Church Administration has truly brainwashed its members into thinking Eduardo is a God sent saint which Jesus Christ warned us about in the Bible about False profits in the making.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,"That’s true because in the 20 years that I was inside, I never heard one minister ever mentioned Mary. It was so odd how they didn’t specify her importance since she was the mother of the savior. They give importance to everything Manalo.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Aug 28 - Aug 31, 2021)",pd1yrl,2021-08-27,I’m so glad that you recognize the importance of the Virgin Mary! The members of the iglesia Ni Christo are so brainwashed and blind that they don’t see all the LIE’S of the INC’s preaching and manipulation. Hopefully more and more INC members will find the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pd1yrl/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_28_aug_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,"Lesson was supposedly about those that leave the church.
Minister starts off the lesson talking about how there are those that grew cold in faith, did not remain in their calling, separated, got expelled. Lesson than shifts over to trying to reinforce that INC is the true church and the minister then proceeds to go over all of INC’s phony prophecies. Minister talked about the Far East, ends of the earth time period, the wrong date of July 27, The emergence of Felix Manaloko.
2nd part of the lesson, minister just ranted about people that leave the church. The only time the minister referred to the Bible to support this rant, is a about how Jesus cured a blind man and people called him a sinner. After that verse, minister was just ranting on people who separated from the church with no bible reading during all this ranting. Minister posed the question “why are those that leave the church?” The answer being “because they don’t pay attention to the words of god, because they don’t obey the words of god”. Such a stupid statement. People leave BECAUSE they paid attention, they left because they relied on their critical thinking instead of allowing the administration to think for them.
Offerings… out of all the ranting, that was really the only point they made about why people leave the church. Minister claimed that detractors don’t want to give offerings because they don’t want to see the church grow. They are enemies of Christ. Minister than reminds us how liberal we should be with offerings, God (EVM) loves a cheerful giver.
After this rant, minister then talks about COVID. How there’s more deadly variants killing people…. Yet the Administration is forcing many of us to attend face to face worship services and refuses to let us return to WebEx. Minister than caps off the lesson with recycled INC garbage about hope and obedience.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,"Actually what woke me up to the false doctrine of INCult is when I actually paid attention to the sermon.
It’s funny during HWS how my OWE family was playing with their phones and not paying attention to the sermon. While I was diligently taking notes. I was madly flipping through my Bible and highlighting the verses since INCult style is jumping around the Bible.
Well as I have mentioned before I have officially stopped attending. My OWE family and ministers don’t even dare Bible talk me nowadays because I have 2 plus years of INCult false doctrine to slap them back.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,"Nonsense lesson again. I feel bad for my very fanatic family who still believes in this lies. False doctrines, false messenger, INCult is all about money nowadays.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,Hooray. A lesson for what I am to do soon.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,"Yet again preaching of the so called “ends of the earth” time line of Felix Manalo. The fact that this Cult recognize the 107 years of this church is Toxic and totally More unchristian like mentality because the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the main source of going to heaven. I pray that more Members of the INC get educated on the Holy Bible and see the Falsely preaching. Once again they say “The Gospel of Jesus” but never preach it, they use Jesus Christ’s name and the brainwashed members don’t even realize that the Gospel of Jesus Christ is what God wants all mankind to know. I listened closely to the first prayer and last prayer of the service and the minister prays to God then prays to Jesus. The Cults ministry preaches to God first then after prays to Jesus to send their prayers to God, it’s like they’re praying twice, and putting Jesus in a different category the fact that they go straight to God first, then they pray to Jesus to deliver the prayer. Yet then they pray to bless Eranyo Manalo for the sake of our salvation, CULT, CULT, CULT brainwashing and manipulation of distancing the members away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I like to thank God for letting this Subreddit to be created. I know a lot of INC members can find peace, Love and truth in this Subreddit knowing that the Iglesia Ni Christo is a TRUE CULT and TRUE LIAR’S.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,Same lesson as previous lessons... Heard the intro and already knew it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,My INC wife told her INC mom that if she wanted to sleep to do the iNC WebEx. She said this multiple times to her mom. I really do not get it. My wife is so adamant about INC being the one true church yet says this? And then later she herself attended the INC WebEx and was very adamant that I not interrupt her.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,"Despite that heads up on the incoming recycled lesson...Jesus Felix Christ Manalo...I still felt that extreme cringe and I tried my best to suck it up while reading it aloud.
The bible clearly stated that Jesus should be God's Messenger of these last days not FYM (Hebrews 1: 2 says so in not just one, but a lot of translations. Unless of course Felix Manalo happens to be God's son that whole time)
They said ""ends of the earth"" is a time again but they did not say the WW1 date on the lesson (they must have realized by now that they got the WW1 date wrong and they don't want to admit it)
And there they go again, accusing those who are critical to INC of lying (even if those critizing INC have evidence supporting what they're saying) while they themselves create layers of BS after BS and avoiding questions instead of answering it. The usual move of a destructive authoritarian religion.
Who even still joins INC without an ulterior motive anyway? Even INC had to resort to using those lingaps to find converts and most of those who did convert just did so to marry someone in INC, not because they believed in it.
They then mention church activities again and whatever same recycled INCrap.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,"This lesson was such a drag. Another waste of an hour and 15 minutes. Heard many brethren let out deep sighs as the WS went on. Like many other WS, made no sense.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,"I've discovered a new way to survive listening to the boring lectures, imagining YTPs of them and parodies.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,"Yes the lesson was directed @ us here in subreddit because they’re afraid. They can twist it around to give their version of just cause but it’s truly about FEAR. Fear because their memberships and money have been dwindling for years and it’s just getting worse with fhe Covid-19 pandemic. Instead of caring for their members who have Covid-19 and showing support to members whose love ones died from it, INC continues to push for in-house worship service and other activities. They continue to defy governmental warnings and instructed their members to lie during contact tracing.
They’ve been afraid for a while now which is why they banned members from visiting online sites contrary to INCult doctrine. The better question to ask (and we’ve asked this several times) that if their doctrine is full proof the true doctrine that God sent, then it should be able to withstand scrutiny.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,"They’re afraid of people gaining cognitive dissonance and having more time to free think.
They’re never going to abandon in person services no matter what, unless the local government of whatever area you’re from forces them to.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,***Sleep intensifies***,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,"Congratulations to waking up and I hope the rest of your family will do the same. It’s interesting because if members will just take a pause and truly think on where they are or why they are in the church and search and examine the lessons thrown at them, that none of the lessons made sense at all. It is surprising of what you can learn. As cruel as the Covid-19 pandemic is, it shown a lot of members to wake up and realize the lies INCult has spouted over the the years.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,For me I watched LJ Caraangs YouTube videos. His findings of the INC’s falsely doctrines and brainwashing TOXIC Tactics really helped me in seeing the light and Gospel of Jesus Christ.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,"Yes, I did watch his videos. Good for LJ that he got enlightened at a young age. His videos encourage the viewers to study the Bible. It is best to familiarize oneself to the manual aka Bible (no offense to the auto anti Bible bots) before listening to any preacher.
I said this before. Of all the jobs in the world, being a preacher is the only one that came with a Biblical warning from Jesus. Beware of false preachers/prophets.
So statistically every preacher,clergy,minister, priest or basically any “paid christian” has a 50/50 chance of being false.
Paul of the Bible set quite a high standard of what a true preacher is. He had a secular job while getting jailed and flogged just to be able to preach about Jesus. He can be anyone’s personal preacher by just reading Acts and his 13 epistles Romans to Philemon.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,Out of curiosity…..how are you affiliated with the Iglesia Ni Christo???,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,"Used to be a an active member, born and raised. How about you?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,"I’m married into the Cult, but for you I’m glad that you see the Toxic tactics that they feed into their members. It’s a Church Business that puts control and fear into its members minds. I knew it from the start that this church is a MAJOR CULT! I really love my wife and family and I keep on attending it just because of their love. But Jesus Christ’s Gospel is in my heart always and I’m so glade that this Subreddit was created so I can vent on the Toxic preaching that they preach. I read the Bible on a daily bases and I listen to the “Word” on the radio. Here’s a scripture I read today that I want to share with you “ACTS 17:34”, feel free to comment on what you think about this verse. If you wanna read more verse’s that’s in the Bible that I found that are falsely preached in the Iglesia Ni Christo lmk, I’ll gladly share it with you.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 01 - Sep 03, 2021)",pfl3dr,2021-08-31,I guess you can say that Dionysius and Damaris are Paul’s OG groupies. Thanks for the verse. I love Paul.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pfl3dr/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_01_sep_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,"Gotta get this off my chest.
This time, the lesson's all about glorifying EVM. Because Sept 7 was that day EVM finally inherited his grandfather's brainwashing business I think.
It started with the lesson saying that the church is expanding and increasing in members again (w/o proof).
Then how INC carried on their services despite the pandemic (that's only because they force and guilt trip their members into doing it. Even going as far as putting their members at risk of getting covid just to have F2F services again).
Then comes the glorification of our beloved supreme leader EVM.
We were then told via a (butchered) Bible verse that we should consider other people (EVM in particular I'm sure) more important than ourselves. Then how we should make our leaders happy, make EVM happy!
By doing propagation, we make EVM happy (because more members means more money and power for him of course). Also it apparently means that we get our names written in their so called (Manalo's) Book of Life.
Oh how we should pray for and Love that greedy cash loving, fear mongering sunovabich who just happens to get that Executive Minister position just because he is one of the Manalos!
By becoming one with the administration, you'll get the benefit of losing money and time as well as free mental tortures for years to come. Yes, EVM's Love sure is genuine!
May this lesson serves as an encouragement for all of us (to leave this sorry cult once and for all). Heil Manalo! Manalo akbar! Manalo Banzai!
#LetsMakeEVMDepressed!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,"Greetings, all! The reason for my recent inactivity is because of my inability to take notes during the sermons since my situation has changed. Plus, I honestly have nothing to add beyond what others have mentioned: “obey the admin,” “~~die-namic~~ dynamic leadership,” etc. Aside from that, my preacher managed to shove “Intensive Propagation” into the WS. For those expecting the lineup, I will hopefully post it soon.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,This lesson was more screwed up than usual. Wtf basically forget God and Jesus Christ but make evm happy. Bring him 6 souls to make him happy for his 12th year of dynamic leadership. Fuck offff. And they asked everyone to wave at the end of the service. If OWEs can’t see the idol worship from this the I don’t know what will wake them up.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,"All about EVM and administration. 12 years of dynamic leadership. There is literally a part of the lesson all about making EVM and the administration smile 🤮
EVM and administration gets mentioned more than God and Jesus combined.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,The lesson for today was all about kissing EVM's ass.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,Even in PNK it's about the Admin lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,"I hate this lesson so much. Made me so sick. I was struggling to keep stone faced as I wanted to voice and display my disgust so bad.
Lesson is just an EVM and administration circlejerk fest. Holy shit the lesson is dedicated to sucking off EVM and his cronies. I hope they’re isn’t a part 2 of this blasphemous idolatry in the upcoming Midday WS that’s happening exactly around the God-Emperor’s 12th anniversary",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,Weekend ws: kiss the assministration and love evm more than your family.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,"I’m in service rn and what a guilt trip this is lmao pathetic as always! Evm this evm that, who are you really worshipping lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,Here’s a scripture in the Bible that suits this subject of the Iglesia Ni Christo TOXIC teachings “1 Corinthians 3:19-23” (please read this scripture) The INC’s ways of preaching is so CULTISH that their members are so brainwashed that they don’t even know what the truth is in the Bible.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,"Title pa lang ng leksyon, ayaw ko na marinig haaay.. Administration over and over and over again..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,"Its no longer a surprise that the lesson is all about evm administration and not about God and Jesus. After all, evm is the god worshipped by the INCult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,Sadboi o emo ba si evm? Ang mga members ay built para pasayahin siya? Kagaling.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,"All I can say about today’s brainwashing preaching is for INC Members to read “2 Corinthians 4” and “1 Corinthians 15:12”. All the preaching of “obeying and submitting to your church leaders” is so misinterpreted and brainwashing. The Iglesia Ni Christo STILL DONT preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ and focuses on Eduardo Manalo’s love. That’s a very Devilish way of preaching. SATAN has done his job to sway people away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I can’t believe the minister preaches on Eduardo’s labor and how hard he works, when Jesus Christ sacrificed his life for our sins. Jesus Christ’s Gospel will never be taught in the INC because Eduardo’s labors and love has taken over it. The INC’s members are so brainwashed that they don’t see or know the gospel of Jesus Christ. Hopefully they will see the truth and light of Jesus Christ’s Gospel and rid their souls of SATAN’S work of misleading them away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,There was literally no difference in terms of content and verses used between CWS and the Adult services. It was an entire shitshow of EVilMan gratification. It was way more disgusting than the usual amount of disgust I feel with worshit services!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,Sounded like the terrible lessons we got thrown at us twice a week back in 2015 till the time I left in 2016.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,"got this ranting text on the other coast🤣
Attended the service and what a load of bs this church is…..you are right!
From hymns which is mellow and could put you to a sleep then proceeded with the prayers mostly praising the leader.
What caught me was when the minister says that the leader had a “dynamic leadership” and added “top notch” for the past 12 years. He was preaching in the chapel which has a burnt down front door? No wonder he kept mentioning global donations and more donations…this is i guess the dynamic portion part coming from..i see..now.
He also mention that being true means you will not hide something..On my few digging online research of this organization has a lot of skeletons to hide…stay away my friend. Then he proceded to invite me to a 4am online special event for the leader oh fuck off..I wake up go to work at 8am and that is early..man you ruin my day.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,Ano po title ng lesson?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,I will likely have to do some intensive propagation on my toilet after tonight's service.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,More souls means more money 💰 🤑,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,"Those who do not wake up in the face of this EVM idolatry are so blind they couldn't even see black anymore.
Their ""spiritual maturity"" has sure reduced them to nothing more than a bunch of NPCs the church admin can reprogram anytime.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,"Wow, they really want to see that donkey-esque smile, huh?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,"Eduardo V. Megalomaniac is at it again. Since he can't make himself happy, he demands us to make him happy by offering him 6 souls and lots of money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,"It has been this way at least since ka erdy. He never tires, making day night, night day... In fym movie, ka Felix got tuberculosis and ulcer due to overwork.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,Kung paano natin pakikinabangan ang pamamahala na inilagay ng Diyos sa loob ng Iglesia Ni Cristo,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,Paano papakinabangan ng pamamahala(sadboi evm) ang kanyang mga miyembro sa kulto.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,Halik mo puwet ni evm. Kasi meron dynamic kaka siya ang title.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,EVM should make his members happy instead so they dont leave the church. Lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,Or the reverse of it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 04 - Sep 07, 2021)",phjkhe,2021-09-03,"But he won't. He doesn't even care about our safety much less our happiness.
Iglesia Ni Manalo is all about EVM after all.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/phjkhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_04_sep_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,"Intro of the lesson continued off from the weekend WS, 12 years of of dynamic leadership of our supreme leader EVM. Despite us being the end times of the end times, we are witnesses to the growth and success of the church (we sure are witnesses to how great the 6 souls project is doing 😂). Thankfully even with the mid-week WS happening just about the same time as the “12 years of dynamic leadership”, the entire lesson was not dedicated to kissing EVM’s ass like the last WS.
First part of the lesson focused on those who administer the church, so plenty of shoutouts to EVM and the administration. Second part of the lesson was so repetitive, all I could hear over and over is just hold on to the faith.
Overall, there were plenty of EVM+administration shoutouts, but at least it was not as nauseatingly excessive as last weekend WS.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,"12 years of dynamic leadership of brainwashing, guilt-tripping and getting all of your money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,"Once again no praise and glory to the preaching of our LORD and SAVIOR Jesus Christ and his Gospel. Brainwashing the members of the Iglesia Ni Christo of how Eduardo repeats his messages of the CHERRY picked verses in the Holy Bible that suite their own belief. Once again I pray to Jesus Christ to CURSE Eduardo Manalo and his Administration for they preach FALSE teachings to its members for the gain of money, and earthly things.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,"we need to listen to EVM
obey EVM's teachings
yea, not Jesus's or God's",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,"Yup,will not be attending this bullshit.. my weekdays will now be occuppied by some good ol' nfl!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,What’s the lesson po?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,You’re just talking nonsense,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,There money is not yours so shot up,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,Pray for curse is demons deeds,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,Ang napakahalagang matamo ng mga hinirang para magtagumpay sa mga suliranin sa buhay,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,Please no doxing. See rule #2. I’m locking this.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,Of course I’m talking nonsense. I’m simply regurgitating the nonsense from the WS lesson prepared by Lord EVM himself.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,Hello OWE Snowflake. Might want to join the faithful servant subreddit seems like the more proper community for you my friend,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,"Imagine what is more DEMONIC, the fact that the preaching of Eduardo and His Administration has manipulated the Holy Bible to brainwash its members for the benefit of money. The other main DEMONIC preaching that they do is replacing Jesus Christ’s Gospel to Felix Manalo’s “ends of the earth” prophecy which is False and a BIG LIE!!! I didn’t Want to use the word hate to express how I feel towards Eduardo. I should express my words in a more safe way so that you can better understand what I’m trying to say. I hope and pray that God can lift the CURSE off Eduardo Manalo and his false preaching and bring him to the light and true preaching of Jesus Christ’s Gospel🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,"If you think God curse the administration you’re wrong it’s only your imagination.as you see so many pastors, and other preachers joining the church. You are just there talking nonsense, no one can believe you Owe.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,"If it’s not a curse then it’s really Satans work that the Iglesia Ni Christo is running their Administration and Cult Preaching. Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life. Please my friend read the New Testament, Jesus Christ’s Love is for everyone and not a membership type of church organization. Membership can always be taken away in the INC, Jesus Christ’s LOVE is unconditional. Just out of curiosity I wanna ask you a question? Why doesn’t Eduardo Manalo and it’s Administration preach about the Virgin Mary???? Also I want your response in what you think about the Scripture of “Hebrews 1”, when It says “In these last days God has spoken to us by his son. Lmk what you think about this verse?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,"Have you noticed that they rarely show any evidence of these preachers and pastors joining the church from other beliefs? After the debate with Dr White, INC tried to spread the rumor that Dr White had decided to join the INC, only to have him dismiss the possibility with laughter. The reality is that INC numbers are probably dropping world wide, and definitely dropping in the US. I know of at least three locations in the US that closed due to low numbers and INC didn't want to pay the rent anymore.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,You’re the one spreading lie,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,So do you have some verifiable evidence that large numbers of pastors from other churches have joined INC?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,Yes more than a thousand watch inc news net 25,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 08 - Sep 10, 2021)",pk25tf,2021-09-07,"That's not proof. I mean a list of names, of prior religions they belonged, their status at that religion along with documented statements of why they left.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pk25tf/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_08_sep_10/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 11 - Sep 14, 2021)",plzdae,2021-09-10,"I hate how they constantly use COVID in their end is near nonsense in what seems like every single lesson. These hypocrites did a complete 180 on their stance on COVID. They used to pray for it to end all the time. I remember there was once an instruction around last year (at least where I was from) to pray everyday at a very specific time, about the pandemic. Shocker, the collective prayers of the “one true church” didn’t miraculously stop COVID and now the cult abandoned praying about ending the pandemic and constantly takes advantage of it to fuel the indefinite doom prophecy",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/plzdae/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_11_sep_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 11 - Sep 14, 2021)",plzdae,2021-09-10,"The only way to solve your problems is to attend brainwashing service again.
They conveniently use a bible verse to say that the covid pandemic is the result of God's wrath because the world and the people in it are terrible.
Basically, through the Church Administration, we are saved in Judgement Day.
I couldn't help but think about Jesus coming back here to just to throw EVM's ass into the lake of burning INC chapels while listening to this recycled garbage.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/plzdae/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_11_sep_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 11 - Sep 14, 2021)",plzdae,2021-09-10,"If INC thinks the events happening now are signs the end is near they really need to research history, but what do you expect from a cult that can't even get the start date of WW1 right.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/plzdae/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_11_sep_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 11 - Sep 14, 2021)",plzdae,2021-09-10,"Lesson opened up with the usual end times of the end times spiel. Pandemic, people losing their jobs, people losing hope. I recall Cherry picked verses from the book Deuteronomy about plagues, disasters, diseases which of course gets related to the ongoing Pandemic and so called proof we’re in the end times of end times. There’s also a strong focus on obedience and the “true worship”. Millions of people gather to worship God, but of course, God is only going to listen to INC everyone else is going to hell.
I know EVM supposedly prepared the last two lessons himself, but no shot he prepared this one as there’s a very significant drop of the number of EVM/Administration mentions compared to the last two lessons.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/plzdae/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_11_sep_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 11 - Sep 14, 2021)",plzdae,2021-09-10,No wonder why there are so many ministers died of covid in the Philippines because the inc cult is being punished by god's covid.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/plzdae/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_11_sep_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 11 - Sep 14, 2021)",plzdae,2021-09-10,There are so many ministers in the Philippines died of covid because of according to them it's god's wrath. The youngest one is the district minister in cagayan de oro.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/plzdae/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_11_sep_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 11 - Sep 14, 2021)",plzdae,2021-09-10,Didn't Glicerio Santos Jr and his wife both die from complications from Covid?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/plzdae/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_11_sep_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 11 - Sep 14, 2021)",plzdae,2021-09-10,have they become... self-aware? OH NO,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/plzdae/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_11_sep_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 11 - Sep 14, 2021)",plzdae,2021-09-10,Doesnt seem like God is protecting INC.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/plzdae/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_11_sep_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 11 - Sep 14, 2021)",plzdae,2021-09-10,Yes and its a punishment from God because these couple are both scammers.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/plzdae/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_11_sep_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 11 - Sep 14, 2021)",plzdae,2021-09-10,They didn't pray hard enough.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/plzdae/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_11_sep_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2021)",pohopu,2021-09-14,"Minister kicked off the intro with the usual judgment day is coming spiel.
Lesson was about what God through the church administration wants us to do to be worthy of salvation, which is to get rid of the old self, intensive renewal of life, and to not indulge or get absorbed by this world.
Minister also went over INC’s commandments separate from the Ten Commandments revealed to Moses from God. Worship service, propagation, love of the brotherhood, “voluntary” offering with a hard plug of the upcoming worldwide donation, and submission to the church administration.
End of the lesson was about God is a merciful God, forgiveness, and back to intensive renewal of life.
Upcoming Weekend WS is going to be an EVM PPV",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pohopu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2021)",pohopu,2021-09-14,Hooray. Another snoozefest tonight. And I'll be missing the PPV Saturday.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pohopu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2021)",pohopu,2021-09-14,Life is meaningful outside INCult and away from the evil cult leader eduardo manalo.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pohopu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2021)",pohopu,2021-09-14,"How very coincidental that the God Emperor decides to bless us with an appearance the week before the Worldwide donation… 🤔
I wonder what he’s going to talk about hmmm 💰💰💰💰🙏🙏🙏😇😇😇🤑🤑🤑🤑",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pohopu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2021)",pohopu,2021-09-14,"Judgement day this Judgement day that due to the pandemic again.
EVM was mention more than Jesus again so I said this before and I'll say again. Why is this church even called the Church of Christ when it's all about the Manalos?
The lesson is basically saying that you should give up your lives and freedom for this cult. Give up who you are and be as brainwashed as a voice operated Manalista drone.
That's what God says through EVM (not through Jesus Christ, he was only used as an example not as a head figure of this church).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pohopu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2021)",pohopu,2021-09-14,Not mention confusing instructions from Joel San Pedro about social distancing. He can't even make up his mind on 3 feet and 6 feet. I feel bad for the officers.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pohopu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2021)",pohopu,2021-09-14,"don't indulge in this world
indulge in our offering boxes
guess ill be daydreaming again",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pohopu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2021)",pohopu,2021-09-14,U/RazAlGhould can you please explain why INC has its own set of 10 commandments which reeks of disrespect to the original 10 commandments?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pohopu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2021)",pohopu,2021-09-14,"If they end is coming, no need to give them your money. Enjoy it before the end is here :)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pohopu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 15 - Sep 17, 2021)",pohopu,2021-09-14,Did San Pedro EVER win a case in court? He doesn't seem to be a very good lawyer.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pohopu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_15_sep_17/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"I didn’t pay full attention and caught snippets of his rambling as I dozed on and off. Opened with the usual locales celebrating their anniversaries. Talked about how the church remains victorious. I recall him talking about accepting an office, how we should never turn down becoming an officer since it’s a gift from God. Bragged about the New Era Hospital. Talked about holding on to our membership, never separate from the Church. There was like three different times near the end where he did his fake eyes open prayer.
The usual long, boring, Tuloy-filled snoozefest with EVM centered prayers… oh my goodness the prayers, especially the closing prayer was just nonstop praying for EVM with Jesus Christ barely being mentioned.
At the very end before we left, Minister read a circular letter by EVM telling us that it has come to their attention that there are those that have been selling merchandise using the church’s likeness, logo, flag to make a profit without the Church’s permission . Infringing on INC’s intellectual property. Something thing like that. And we are to report these type of activities to the administration. Which is hilarious considering that INC’s logo is so blatantly plagiarized and is just a mashup of symbols from other movements.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"eduardo manalo just couldn't resist not to mention the donations and offerings that his cult members not to forget even in difficult times. the prayers were painfully long and repetitive. kelangan ba talaga umiyak sa panalangin e replay lang naman pero ""opo', ""amen"" pa rin mga myembro kahit replay na lang panalangin.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"Atleast half of the closing prayer was about EVM, I don't remember if Jesus Christ was even mentioned.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"Just wondering how much of a pickle is the world's most important person in? There were about 3 straight long prayers where the lead in was asking for 'protection' and 'blessings' for the world's most important person?
The church administration (the world's most important person) praised the cult owned hospital for treating both INCult and Non-INCult members. As if it is out of the ordinary to treat all patients regardless of religion? Really bruh?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"""We need him for our salvation."" Really?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"I will say it again. You can be saved even without joining the INCult. You can still achieve eternal peace even beyond your death without worrying of that fucking judgement day. INCult just uses that as guilt tripping to its members because the truth is, you don't need a fucking church especially that fucking INCult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"Although my current situation forbids me from taking notes, allow me to regurgitate some of what I remembered, as well as my own personal comments, and though it may not amount to much (especially compared to my previous *pain*-per-view write-ups), I hope it still helps.
* Never forsake the worship service. Even if it’s the cause of your problems?
* EVM acknowledges the world’s current problems prove out of the ordinary. But he and his admin still won’t just let us leave this blasted cult…
* In spite of the above problems, EVM instructs the brethren never to take offense in the giving of offerings.
* He claims INC members don’t take offense to the giving of offerings. Think again, EVM! (Is he even capable of thinking?)
* Once again, EVM says (or at least tries to say) a thing or two about depression, even though he knows not the first thing about it.
* EVM claims that a duty in the church is a “gift” from “God.” I think whoever wrote his script misspelled “burden” and “the administration.”
* To me at least, there were times it felt like the sermon was about to conclude, but EVM and the reader forced more verses down everyone’s throats. I hate fake endings…
* EVM claims we should also help out those outside the church. He forgot to include “but not the dEtRaCtOrS!”
* I wonder how many of those 669 new ministers/workers will quit in the near future…
* I also wonder just how many of them were voluntold for the ministry.
* ~~If only 3 fewer of them had joined this go-around…~~
* In the closing prayer, the minister claims something like, “[God has] turned this pandemic for the good of [his] nation.” Like…what?
* I love how, after the ordination excerpt, the video doesn’t tell you to stand for the post-ordination prayer. Caught my locale off-guard!
* The entire fiasco lasted 1 hour, 42 minutes, including both officers’ prayers (not including circulars). What happened to “quality over quantity”?
**Hymns**
Let’s see…
* generic officers’ prayer (22: “Our Fervent Prayers”)
* distorted praise hymn (13: ~~”O Father, Hear Our Praise”~~ “Oh , We Praise You, Father”)
* obedience/submission hymn (442: “Steadfast, We Will Stand on Your Love and Words”)
* obedience/submission hymn [again] ([356: “My Loyalty to You Will Never Change”](https://youtu.be/puLIRjumVbw)
* duty/obedience hymn (6: ~~”In This Duty, I Have Found My Salvation”~~ “My Salvation Rests in My Duty”
* lecture/obedience hymn that namedrops both the messenger and admin (398: “Hold onto the Words of God”)
* During the ordination excerpt, that hymn that makes many people cry briefly plays (246: “I Offer My Strength and Life”, a.k.a. “Never Will I Leave Your Church”)
* 6 voice Doxology (2 soprano voices, 2 tenor voices in addition to alto & bass) because regular SATB apparently isn’t good enough anymore
* lecture showtune (285: “We Must Be on Guard”)
* (Ideally, this *should* have been the end of the pain-per-view, but nope! Stick around for the officers’ prayer [even if you’re not one!] and one or more circulars [the one about not buying unauthorized INC merch, maybe others depending on local/district.])
* Nope, nothing to see here with these “hymns” but a ginormous waste of trees and ink!
* Couldn’t they have at least done this at the last weekend of the month to spare us from [“I Am a Member”](https://youtu.be/6jtvxZ_fay8)?
EDIT(S): format",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,I didn't go to the church today so my mother got mad at me.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"I didn't go to church Saturday and I am so happy !!!!
And there was no good reason !!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"Another sick and Toxic teachings of being a “Church Member”, “Election”, “Chosen people”, “submit to the Church Administration” and “prophecy of the ends of the Earth”, this is nothing to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The Leader Eduardo has a interpreter that said Jesus Christ’s name but never Jesus Christ’s Gospel. It’s all about MEMBERSHIP and the manipulation of being a member of this CULT!!! Eduardo said you must know Jesus Christ but he doesn’t preach Jesus Christ’s Gospel. That’s how they manipulate the Bible in many ways, and the CHERRY picked verses to brainwash their Members to suite their own misinterpretation of the Bible. It’s so Toxic that this Leader Eduardo doesn’t preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ it’s like he’s led by Satan to draw away the members away from Christ Jesus Gospel. I pray to God that he release the CURSE of this church’s (Iglesia Ni Christo) wrongful preaching, and I pray to God that he lets a minister, or member of INC read this to show that he’s BRAINWASHED the fact that the minister’s don’t preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I can see why a lot of ex-INC members stop believing in GoD because of the toxic preaching, and manipulation of Eduardo and his INC administration. The ex-members that didn’t find Jesus Christ’s Gospel or the LOVE of God through Jesus Christ has been left with a scare in their hearts from the TOXIC manipulation preaching of Eduardo’s Administration. Hopefully the members can read the Holy Bible and know the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and rid their minds of the Toxic preaching of the INC",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"tldr,
Evm: make me happy and god will make you happy.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,Felix Manalo and his stable of false preachers are modern day temple tax collectors. The yeast of the Pharisees are alive and growing abundantly in INCult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,Someone report the country of Italy!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"Why would I even want to buy their crap? That being said, I certainly wouldn't report someone else for doing it. Of course, the likelihood of someone doing that where I live is nonexistent. No one outside of the few members of the Filipino community has even heard of the INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,He surely doesnt want the brethren to forget.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"Closing prayer was basically the “Millions of Reasons “ song that Rauffenberg posted, just in prayer format 🤣",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"And imagine guys that the names of people (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, etc)that are written in the Holy Bible don’t even get any praise that Felix and Eduardo has in this Cult preaching Church. I hope and pray that members of the Iglesia NI Christo will see the light of Jesus Christ’s Gospel and also to turn away from the TOXIC preaching of Eduardo’s Administration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,Any idea where he was? Is Central being renovated or was he some place else?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,Mine too,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"I did, and it was very annoying. The prayers and songs were almost amusing in their obsession with EVM and the administration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"I slept in.
From what I'm reading, it was a better use of my time.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"The mentioning of these offerings are a TRUE signal that this is a CULT driven business church!!!! The fact that “Offering” is more focused on then Jesus Christ’s Love and gospel to us. The very fine example of Toxic preaching that manipulates the Holy Bible and Brainwashing ways of their members. I thank God for this Subreddit that it exposed the manipulative and very sick and toxic preaching’s of the Iglesia Ni Christo. Think about this guys…the church is named “Church of Christ” but they don’t preach the Gospel of Christ. That’s the whole cloud that has blinded its members of the INC, the fact that they don’t know the Gospel of Jesus Christ that’s in the New Testament in the Bible.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"That day, Sept 11, Manila was under MGCQ (?) or MEGCQ or whatever it is nowadays until the 15th so they used a different venue for EVM. He has been in that place a few times though.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,I don’t know for certain where he was aside from the fact that it was a different venue from previous PPVs.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,Spot on. INCult's main doctrines only centers to offerings and nothing else.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,Was he actually officiating in front of a congregation?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 18 - Sep 21, 2021)",pqei59,2021-09-17,"I don’t believe so, but I’m not entirely sure",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,"Lesson was about membership, hope, and obedience to the church administration
We cannot live without our membership, our membership renders us the true worship unto God, our membership will lead us to salvation.
After focusing on membership, the lesson became very disjointed and kept jumping from hope to church administration constantly. It’s like there’s a mandatory quota for ministers to mention the phrase “our beloved executed minister” or “church administration”. Minister would read a verse, talk about it and then randomly slap on something about the administration… our beloved executed minister advises us, the church administration reminds us, the church administration admonishes us…
Basically, salvation = placing hope and complete submission to our beloved executive minister EVM and the church administration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,"Today's lesson is...
Obey God's commands...well actually, obey Manalo's interpretation of God's commands.
Ugh...boring, cringey, eye rolling and repetitive.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,"I just came home from church. If I am not mistaken, we have almost 10 new expelled members in our locale.
(EDITED : Andddd my fam didn't believe us when we told them the WS was only 30 minutes.)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,"If lesson is above membership, it’s possible that they will read the chopped version of John 10:9. The ministerial word play trick usually goes…
Jesus said whoever enters OR BECOME A MEMBER
Then follows with the body verse Colossians 1:18, the body verse.
Misleading question: What is it that body Christ will save?
Then off to Acts 20:28",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,"I'm sure he quoted a Chumbawumba song
I got knocked down then I get up again.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,What is the lesson po?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,"ok people place your bets
will the weekend worship service be a copy-paste of this service?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,INCult is becoming North Korea. Too much brainwashing and glorifying eduardo manalo - the man who do not deserve any form of respect.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,"Same lessons over and over. I studied in a chriatian school during ny elementary and highschool days and I somehow miss the lessons they taught. They were meaningful stuff not like INC's lessons which all mean the same thing, submit to the administration and give offerings.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,"boooooooooooooooring.
same shit, different day.
i miss when the lessons were about... well, other shit. i'll take a marriage lesson at this point. then at least we'll get off-color sexist jokes that people may or may not laugh at.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,"According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway because bees don't care what humans think is impossible.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,Baka bangaws yung nagkukumpulan sa lobby.. 😆,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,"The Iglesia Ni Christo members and ministers really need to define the word “WHOEVER”, and stop adding “or join the Church or being a member” which is not in the Bible and truly FALSE!!! When Jesus Christ said “WHOEVER” he truly meant anyone, he did not say “Church Member” which the INC added their own interpretation to brainwash the members of the INC. The Iglesia Ni Christo has falsify so many scriptures to their own gain to control their members that it’s appears to be the work of Satan, the INC members are so blind to see the truth. For example I read “The 10 Commandments of the Iglesia Ni Christo” that they posted up and it wasn’t anything close to what Mosses received from GOD. The whole “ends of the earth” preaching that they think is a Prophecy is so false!!! Brainwashing at its finest if you think of it, the members are truly Blind",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,Ang katangian ng mga lingkod ng Diyos na hindi mawawalan ng pag asa,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,I will have to ask the wife. Ok am ok lol ybdo in ng 1 BS a week. Not letting them ruin my weekend.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 22 - Sep 24, 2021)",psyhtu,2021-09-21,"Yeah it seems 99% of the time its the 7 deadly themes. The other 1% is about how to be a good husbnad/wife/child. There was also the odd lesson about video games being bad. If we had worship service inside the chapel i think i would go crazy at this point. I'm glad we're still on webex, i can distract myself much easier",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/psyhtu/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_22_sep_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"Opened up with the usual we are at the end times of the end times, Christ could come at any moment. Briefly went over “ends of the earth” and July 27, 2018.
Lesson then spends a good amount of time focusing on INC's most important commandments separate from the commandments revealed to Moses from God, which includes worship service, offering, and propagation. Last part of the lesson was just recycled filler, I recall the minister talking about intensive renewal of life, Christ could come at any moment so be more active, etc.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"In a nutshell:
* INC is (supposedly) the true church, so never leave it!
* The start date of WWI? INC insists the answer is July 27, 1914, and anyone who dare say the 28th is a DeTrAcToR.
* Worldwide donation is this weekend, so open those wallets, drain those bank accounts, and break open those piggybanks! ~~EVM’s cash flow~~ The church and its needs are at stake here, the minister/worker might as well say.
* Some worldwide event (I already forgot what exactly it is) is set to occur on (or around) ~~Halloween~~ Mr. Manalo’s birthday, so mark those calendars (so you’ll know when to shut off your phone and pretend you’re not home)!
* Let’s not forget that BeAr SiX fRuItS campaign the admin has forced down our throats! So if I bring a teddy bear and six oranges to church, am I good?
* Now please stand for “[I Am a Member](https://youtu.be/6jtvxZ_fay8)”! If you were hoping your minister or worker would forget, chances are he’ll let you down.
* Other hymns today include:
* a showtune about the messenger (that segues into a lecture/duty hymn near the end, and even includes a lyric about the church) [401: “The Last Work of Salvation”]
* an obedience/submission hymn that sounds…less than happy [[437: “To You, Lord Jesus, I Offer My Heart”](https://youtu.be/tStjHPL37tE)]
* an obedience hymn about remaining in the church (and even includes a shoutout to the DeTrAcToRs!) [458: “I Will Hold Fast the Election the Have”]
* an obedience hymn before the text (that starts off sounding like a CWS hymn and segues into sounding like a showtune) [363: “Our Souls Wait Eagerly”]
* Yep…those higher numbers would suggest these are “special” hymns, but their messages suggest something quite contrary!
* Hopefully I can get October’s lineups posted soon!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"This one was particularly disgusting, which was surprising considering it was not a pay-per view session. A few notable points that was stressed by the minion:
- We must (not should) follow the Church Administration (Eduardo V. Manalo) because God had placed him in his position. Wow, the most important person in the world has not only superceded Jesus, but God as well? Wow, just wow.
- We members shouldn't be offended by offering and giving contributions because it adds towards our ""salvation"". *Needle scratch* Wait, what?! Did I just get confirmation that members lilterally have to pay to get into heaven. Wow, just wow.
- Alot of stress placed on the need for each household to get 6 convert for the Lord Almighty Eduardo V. Manalo by June 2022. Hmm. Why does a deity on earth need something like that done by a specific time? Very weird.
As previously stated, quite disgusting and incensing...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"Starts off fearmongering about judgement, saying how the world is so bad these days. INC should learn history because the world was a lot shitter back when the bible was written.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"during the reminders section at the end of the service, they talked about how there were a bunch of stores popping up that sold merch related to the church (wow bars). they warned us to not buy from these stores and encouraged us to report them.
why you may ask? it's because they're profiting off of the church, and that it also apparently violates trademark laws.
we all know why they don't want these types of stores selling inc related items; the admin won't get that sweet cash ;'(",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"Brethren, the lesson for today is all about using god's name, jesus christ, lake of fire, cult membership, curse and punishment if you don't give us money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"the unholy trinity today, Obedience, Propagation, and Offerings
don't listen to the mockers of the Words of God - listen to us
also fearmongering - the pandemic didn't end? better use it to our advantage and scare people shitless into staying",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"Same old shit. Almost choked when July 27, 1914 and ""Tagapamahalang Pangkalahatan"" was mentioned again.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"""Judgement day is near, we just know it because ""a certain book"" says so.""
So they finally mentioned again in their HWS lesson that WW1 started in July 27 1914 instead of just 1914 despite evidence still indicating that it's actually on July 28.
""If you have problems, that's not an excuse to stop attending WS (because all that negativity in their preachings definitely helps you)""
""Dont forget to find converts too because our God Emperor has further intensified it even more""
""You must also give away your hard earned money on your own free will. We and your fellow brainwashed members won't tolerate not giving anything""
Salvation salvation salvation! Now give us you money cause it's worldwide donation!
I wish I could stop my dad and my brother from giving money to this damn cult but I don't want them to know that I'm an apostate...yet.
It sucks to be the only one who knows better...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"Another repeat of a man made doctrine that manipulates the minds of the members of the INC. Cult tactics at its finest for the weak minded members that don’t read the Bible. No preaching of Jesus Christ’s Gospel in his Birth, Miracles, Percussions, Crucification, Resurrection, and most of all Jesus Christ’s Love. INC’s manipulation of its man made doctrine is part of Satans work for it sways people away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,its better to watch porn than to attend INCult worshit service.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"In CWS, the lesson was about Gideon being called by God to save Israel.
So after telling the story about Gideon, they then inserted FYM to the narrative and said that FYM was sure that he was called by God too like Gideon and how his enemies will sure fall and be ashamed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"Sounds like the usual recycled shit. Well, I will be heavliy day dreaming of NFL fantasy during this typical brain washing!!...btw is this weekend really the ""worldwide donation""?..oops forgot to ""set aside"" my hard earn money..actually used it to pay bills and buy groceries...o well I chose to not starve sorry not sorry!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"I just like the feeling of seating in front row knowing I don't have to feel miserable and worthless with all those guilt tripping. "" Guilt trips don't work on me now.""
I like listening to lies when I know the truth.
Hearing those make up story ""storya tupo tupo"" and same shit over and over again makes me sigh..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"yup
just another lesson to sleep through",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"ig Google and Wikipedia are detractor media then because it all says WWI started 28 July 1914. only mention of 27 July in Wikipedia is, ironically, a NYT article encouraging Americans to pray for the nation of Serbia, the hotbed where the WWI fuse was lit.
watch, INC is gonna tell us next not to use the Internet. or books. or phones. or not to have a life. just stay in the chapel full time and drink only the EVM sponsored koolaid.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,">The start date of WWI? INC insists the answer is July 27, 1914, and anyone who dare say the 28th is a DeTrAcToR.
did this seriously happen? wtf?!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"With the lineup for October, I expect a bunch of commonly played songs for the October lineups (commonly played examples include 7, 50, 86, 54, 56, 116, 141, 238, 243, 245, 247, 249, 268, 278 etc), as we know some are played more than others and occasional special hymns. We now know each month has it's own dedicated entrance hymn when the choir walks into the loft (no 10 for October).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"Wow, EVM was directly appointed by God? Well hell, why don’t they just put a bloody crown on his head since he’s in the highest hierarchy?! Forget Jesus, INC totally reduced him to being insignificant.
I couldn’t stand any of these lessons when I was still inside but more so now. How any of you can stomach listening to these garbage is beyond me. I could see myself screaming raving mad and running out of the chapel in the middle of the WS. This is ridiculous. The stench of this shyt is just beyond ludicrous.
Anyway, thank you for sharing and please keep them coming. However, on one hand, I feel for you to have to sit through WS after WS. 🤦♀️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"I totally agree! The manggagawa even kept on reminding about the worldwide donation that cannot be ignored saying "" Be careful not to neglect handogs since Jesus Christ is coming very soon."" The EVM administration is becoming more greedy than the past admin.
True God will not punish you if you do not give a tithe.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,"The Iglesia Ni Christo totally replaced Jesus Christ’s Gospel with a Gospel of their own to gain money and control their members to give money. The GREED that the Eduardo Manalo Administration has is so Toxic that it’s so sad that the members of INC don’t see the manipulation. God and Jesus Christ don’t need the monitoring money the Devil does. If the members of the iglesia Ni Christo would read the Holy Bible and truly know the Gospel of Jesus Christ they would know true love that Jesus Christ has for us all, and not the control manipulation of gaining money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Sep 25 - Sep 28, 2021)",puyatd,2021-09-24,Front row means leaving first !!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/puyatd/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_25_sep_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 29 - Oct 01, 2021)",pxmedz,2021-09-28,"Minister opened up how we are living in the last days,trials and hardships especially with the pandemic. Minister then went to say that according to the United Nations over 100 million people are unemployed in 2021 and how that number is going to increase to 200 million + in 2022. After that opening, minister dives into what the lesson is about, the power of prayer and faith.
Hardships, trials, tribulations but with complete obedience and trust in ~~Lord Eduardo and the Administration~~ God, we can overcome anything in life. Lesson focuses on the stories of prayer of King Hezekiah as the main example of the power of faith and prayer.
Lesson also talks about the “Holy Spirit”. Coincidentally, it is only in the worship service where we will receive the power of the “Holy Spirit”.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pxmedz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_29_oct_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 29 - Oct 01, 2021)",pxmedz,2021-09-28,"It wasn't actually that bad
No mention of EVM(God)
No mention of Administration
30 mins",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pxmedz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_29_oct_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 29 - Oct 01, 2021)",pxmedz,2021-09-28,"More of ""The world is so bad these days, the end is near""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pxmedz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_29_oct_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 29 - Oct 01, 2021)",pxmedz,2021-09-28,"Napaka walang kuwenta pagdalo sa pagsamba ng INKulto. Sa halip na mawala ang depresyon mo, lalong lumalala sa klase ng leksyon na itinuturo nila. Ang ending lang naman e wag kalilimutan ang pag-aabuloy dahil nakalulugod diumano sa dios nila (eduardo manalo).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pxmedz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_29_oct_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 29 - Oct 01, 2021)",pxmedz,2021-09-28,So my non-expelled family members were telling me about this. The one who officiated my former locales worship service today was a minister who will be send back to the Philippines because the locale he's taking care of had caused a huge ruckus caused by an Ex-Iglesia member. Oh sucks for this minister. He needed more brownie points to make up to come back abroad. He should just leave the church. He knows there is something funky in this cult religion seriously.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pxmedz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_29_oct_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 29 - Oct 01, 2021)",pxmedz,2021-09-28,"Openning of the WS is about the worsenning hardships and the catastrophe brought by the pandemic and they said that it will not be remedied because the Bible said so.
..But on the middle parts of the lessons it's about the how God answers the prayer of the faithful and how the holy spirit guide them.
.. and in the end, they mentioned again how hard is their life and it will not be change for the better again. Make up your mind INC! You are so confused you need some help. And oh they mentioned about the lagaks because its only 8 weeks before the Year end offerings",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pxmedz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_29_oct_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 29 - Oct 01, 2021)",pxmedz,2021-09-28,Lesson: Ang dapat gawin at maging paninindigan ng mga hinirang sa panahon ng kahirapan at kagipitan,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pxmedz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_29_oct_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 29 - Oct 01, 2021)",pxmedz,2021-09-28,"Did anyone catch the last chapter read?
It was something from Psalms. They read verses 1-12 and then 14-16. I was curious why they skipped 13 so I was going to look it up immediately after, but then the prayer portion took 20 minutes and I forgot by then.
Edit: Grammar",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pxmedz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_29_oct_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 29 - Oct 01, 2021)",pxmedz,2021-09-28,"""Brethren are losing their livelihoods due to the pandemic! But it's ok, it's just unemployment. Just don't forget to give us even more money than you previously did, contract the virus by attending our mandatory f2f church activities (especially you ~~slaves~~ free labor peons), and we should be fine. Our admin knows what they're doing.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pxmedz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_29_oct_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 29 - Oct 01, 2021)",pxmedz,2021-09-28,Hope the minister at the locale I’m about to attend does not find ways to drag it out…,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pxmedz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_29_oct_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 29 - Oct 01, 2021)",pxmedz,2021-09-28,"That's why they want you to give your money and price possessions to the cult because you won't be needing them when you get to heaven, at least that's what some money hungry deacon and ministers told my husband's grandma before she died. Disgusting!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pxmedz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_29_oct_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 29 - Oct 01, 2021)",pxmedz,2021-09-28,"Once I heard the intro, I dozed off. Its the same shit but different day anyway.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pxmedz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_29_oct_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 29 - Oct 01, 2021)",pxmedz,2021-09-28,Its funny how they always go on about how the world is so bad and life is so hard. Do they really think life was easier in the past? Back when the average life expectancy was around 30 years and things like slavery were common.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pxmedz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_29_oct_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 29 - Oct 01, 2021)",pxmedz,2021-09-28,"That was included in one of the lessons before lol. Sure you've lost your job, but you should be giving even more to the church so you can receive even more blessings. How's that working out for people who did that?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pxmedz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_29_oct_01/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Sep 29 - Oct 01, 2021)",pxmedz,2021-09-28,Seriously. They always make it a point at every start of worship service to say that brethren has lost their employment due to this pandemic but never once have I heard any of them talk about the lives lost.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pxmedz/midweek_worship_service_examination_sep_29_oct_01/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"Lesson was all about propagation.
Once again, our minister opened up talking about the COVID-19 pandemic, hardships, how judgement day is near. Afterwards, all the minister ever talked about was propagation and bearing fruit. Very repetitive lesson. Lesson also tries to guilt trip members, heavily implying you have to bear fruit to be saved. Salvation is on the line, how can we be assured of salvation if we don’t bear fruit like it is mandated in the Bible. At one point, the minister asks a self-imposed question that was probably in the WS outline, “How does the church administration feel when we fulfill our duty” Lesson also went over persecution… and gee the world sure is prosecuting us 🙄when we know it’s the other way around.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"No attendance for myself or wife
Me - hungover from stag do
Wife - spa day with her sister/bride",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"The lesson reeks of desperation. Redouble our efforts to the already intensified propagation?
They tell us how successful the propagation is and how spread out the church is repeatedly already! But they're still not telling us how many INC members are there now compared to before!
So apparently, propagating is now required to attain salvation. And apparently, we have to make EVM happy too!
And they still think INC is still not a cult after listening to that garbage?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,One thing I noticed about last night's service. Much more talk about Jesus than normal. Guess that means the administration is reading our comments about how the INC rarely talks about Jesus.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"propagation thing again, old recycled blah blah... heard it 10,000 times. Desperate attempt from the administration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"Iglesia Ni Christo only says “Gospel of Jesus Christ” and not preaching the true Gospel of Jesus. It’s another manipulation and false tactic of preaching. The sad thing is they add Eduardo’s name that he was sent by God to deliver a Gospel. Hopefully the INC members can seek the truth and know that Jesus Christ is the last messenger and all people should know his Gospel (Birth, miracles, percussions, crucification, resurrection, and his Love)to be saved. The Manipulation of the Manalo family preaching has totally replaced Gods commandment of “only through Jesus Christ”, you will be saved, no membership, no Administration, and diffidently No one with EVM!!!! If you properly read the Holy Bible you’ll see that Jesus has said that “Whoever call upon me on my name will be saved”. The word Whoever is anyone, not a MEMBERSHIP!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"Since the recycled brainwashing topic is INCult propagation, let me share the passages in the Bible that reminded me the most of how INCult of the Manalo Conglomerate treats the brainwashed members.
Matthew 23:13 NIV
15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a SINGLE CONVERT, and when you have succeeded, you make them TWICE AS MUCH A CHILD OF HELL as you are.
Luke 11:45-46 NIV
One of the experts in the law answered him, “Teacher, when you say these things, you insult us also.” Jesus replied, “And you experts in the law, woe to you, because you LOAD PEOPLE DOWN WITH BURDENS they can hardly carry, and you yourselves will not lift one finger to help them.
On my first reading exploration of the Book of Matthew(the first book of New Testament) it dawned on me who Jesus was really woeful about. It’s no other than the religious leaders at that time. With passages like I quoted above. It doesn’t take much to realize that INCult has the yeast of the Pharisees. In Jesus brief ministry here amongst humans, He hung out with the sinners, sick and just basically repentant broken humans like me. His woes are aimed directly at the same folks who eventually got him killed. No other than the false preachers themselves.
I have said it before. The preacher profession is the only job that came with a biblical warning from Jesus Himself. Beware of false preachers/prophets. That’s a 50/50 chance. Unfortunately my ancestors didn’t heed that warning because they didn’t read the memo.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"lesson was focus on RECRUITMENT...by joining, it's a 30% INCome..but joining is not enough, members should recruit more members, that is lots of additional SAVINGS (ligtas points and money)
POWER💪🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"Utter DOGSHIT. These services have been a waste of time, but this one is particular is a big waste of time.
Cherry picked verse to support the notion that ""propagation"" or to plain and simply put it recruitment of people to become members of this cult organization is a member's duty.
Um, I'm quite sure that propagation would be part of a minion's job description. Now they're forcing members to do that job. Just exactly how bad is this cult's situation that they're placing the onus of recruitment on their members. Not just one or two, but rather six.
Also what is the importance of placing a deadline of June 2022? What is the religious significance of that date? You know, like people of the world place significance on December 25, what's the deal with June 2022?
Propagate to make EVM happy..? Honestly, Go Fuck Yourselves.
Whatever happened to GOD?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"I am travelling on Sunday to visit my friend who was an ex-Iglesia ni Cristo (Manalo) member. He's inviting me in his Christian church and give Christianity another chance. Afterwards, we'll catch up with him and share my story on how I left the church. But most of the time on Sundays, I'm usually rehearsing with my community choral group that I'm participating with. The joy of freedom for not listening to these false preachers and their traitorous words.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"Bit late, but I did manage to snag the verses and translations (for most):
* John 15:16 GNB
* Tells ""the chosen"" to bear fruit
* Mark 16:15-16 GNB
* another one about propagation
* Col 1:6 UDB 2017; 7,5 T4T
* Idk, minister went on a tangent about social media being narcissistic and how people get naked on TikTok
* Acts 20:24 NLT
* ""Life is worth nothing"" unless propagation
* Eph 13:14, 20-21 TLA
* If this verse is true why aren't there billions of INC members?
* John 4:28-30 & 41-42
* Look at the woman who dropped everything to propagate
* Col 4:5 EE
* Whenever you're with nonbelievers, shove religion down their throat
* Phil 4:3 GNB
* Minister said something about women propagating with their husbands is in the bible
* Phil 1:5-6 NIRV
* It makes EVM happy if you propagate",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,hahaha salvation is very near? I already heard that since my PNK/CWS days and still not happening. you don't need to bear fruit to be saved. its just eduardo manalo way of guilt-tripping the members to get additional cash flow.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,keep up the good work buddy ☺,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"Health is important. Whether it is physical or mental. But out of the 3 key elements of wellness that complete a person's well-being, the spiritual part tends to be the one that gets easily corrupted.
One would think it's the mind. And yet we can always change religions if we so desire anytime. It could happen by law of attraction, business negotiation(s), or simply because of boredom.
To have faith/belief in something intangible for me is highly overrated. The bottom line, it is in one's best interest to choose what he or she likes. It's about free will brother.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"They will never reveal the numbers of those who left vs the number who have joined. And they wouldn't be realistic about the numbers either and would count those born in the church and baptized as someone who joined.
All that talk is to try to paint a fake picture and pretend that the church continues to grow. I've already been told by district officers and local officers that offerings are less than half and that people have left yet they say something different during their services.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,And how many new converts have you seen in your locale? Just curious since the minister is bragging about successful propagation.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,you sure about that? they explicitly said to make EVM happy in the weekend service,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,The Iglesia Ni Christo only say’s Jesus’s name but not preach Jesus’s gospel. It’s a manipulation tactic which ends up with the INC minister to preach the Eduardo Manalo prophecy and nothing about Jesus Christ’s Gospel. Truly if the INC would properly preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ there would be no Felix Manalo as the last messenger which he is not.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"Maybe they should try recruitment bonuses. Join the church, stay in one year, and you get a free copy of EVM's latest webex.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"Here’s a few scriptures from the Holy Bible for you my friend that I want to share with you Galatians 1:1-10 and Acts 4:10-12, and Acts 17:24. God bless you from escaping the Cult of the Iglesia Ni Christo",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,No idea actually. That was just read from the HWS lesson so I was referring to INC as a whole when I said they were bragging about that again.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,Maybe it was just our minister. But I distinctly remember several mentions of jesus during the service last night.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"Perhaps your minister has been lurking here and how we mentioned that Jesus has been reduced to an after thought in comparison to EVM, who is the direct linked to God?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"There’s a difference when only saying his name and not preaching Jesus Christ’s Gospel. They blind the members of the INC by using Jesus’s name in heir preaching but never do they preach Jesus’s gospel, which is the way, the truth, and the life.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,Perhaps. Maybe I should shut up before I get outed. lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"I've heard the same stuff from my husband's mother. Seriously, I don't even understand why she continues to tell us stuff about INC when we clearly distanced ourselves from them.
I'm at this point in my life that I don't care but the woman has a need to tell us stuff. Go figure.
So I wouldn't worry about it. Your minister is not the only one who added Jesus in their lessons. They lurk here and they take lessons on what we've discussed here and we've repeatedly criticized INC for upholding EVM and lowering Jesus status.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"I am not that worried. To many of us here for them to be able to single me out.
Regarding your mother inlaw, her entire life focuses on the church, so she probably doesn't know how to talk about other things. I feel the same way around my wife's family. Other than family stuff, the INC and NBA basketball is about all they can talk about. I avoid talking about the INC, and I am not really an NBA fan. So our conversations get boring really fast.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 02 - Oct 05, 2021)",pzn2ti,2021-10-01,"Share these scripture’s with your mother-in law 2nd Corinthians 4, and Galatians 1:1-10 examine what she or a minister can say about these scriptures. As you take in these scriptures hopefully you’ll pass it on and see that the Holy Bible has real words of wisdom that the INC doesn’t preach. The INC uses the words of the Bible to manipulate and brainwash their members for the gain of earthly wealth and not of spiritual healing and LOVE.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzn2ti/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_02_oct_05/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,"I believe the lesson was about what we should and shouldn’t do as a member. Propagation seemed to be the central theme.
Our minister started telling us how we shouldn’t have worry in this world, we should not be envious of the other people of this world that are prosperous (like our beloved billionaire savior, Lord Eduardo). Minister then starts talking about offering. Since we are inside the true church, god will reward us with blessings. Of course there are conditions to fulfill… offering… the more we abundantly give, the more we will be blessed.
Lesson then focused on intensive propagation, specifically the six souls per family. Now I’m not sure if our minister was following the WS outline script or he was on a tangent talking out of his ass, but he started talking about statistics and propagation, how statistically, the six souls per household is easily achievable. He told us each person knows around 100 friends and acquaintances, if there are 3 people in a household, they could easily pull 60 people. Goodness this guy sounded so delusional. I’d bet 90% of households in my locale still have zero converts.
Felix Manalo is mentioned briefly in the lesson. Our minister told us how from one man the church grew and is now in x amount of countries and territories. I’m sure there are leaders from other religious groups that have gave that exact same spiel to their members, how they exclusively have the truth, how they’re in x amount of countries. It’s hilarious how INC always pretends that they’re exclusive in being a worldwide religion.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,"the bigger the money you offered to eduardo manalo, the bigger the chances to be saved. it seems like you can pay your way to salvation through offerings and donations. 6 souls per household is not achievable especially you will not gain anything inside the INCult since its just a waste of time and money. ministers are being pressured I guess that's why they are also pressuring their members and officers. they will never succeed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,"Don't be like those who do wrong just to get wealthy, like EVM.
My fellow brethren, you must pray to God for your wealth as EVM takes yours every week. Don't feel bad if God doesn't answer your prayer immediately or at all. He knows what's best for you.
So apparenly, you give a lot of money to the church admin only to be told that your prayers aren't guaranteed to be answered.
Also don't feel bad when you don't become propsperous by doing ""good things"" (which, for INC is offering a lot, obeying the Church Admin, attending WS, intensive provocation and propagation, intensive brainwashing for life) because wealth is temporary (hear that EVM? WEALTH IS TEMPORARY! You can't bring all that money you extorted from your followers to hell you know)
Also my dad is starting to question the lessons. He's staring to notice that the lessons are all about submitting to the church admin more than God.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,"Non-attendance for myself and wife
Wife - working
Me - cannot be bothered
Hope its an EVM PPV Saturday as we will both be missing that as well
Me and Wife - attending a INC to Non-INC(not converting) wedding, music, party, booze
Thats 3 consecutive now we will be missing, when we they expel us ???",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,"Title: Ang Hinirang na Mapapabuti Ang Buhay at Magtatamo ng Kaligtasan
Another drowsy PPS.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,"Don't be envious of worldly people, they're depressed deep inside because they're not inside the church and they'll burn in hell.
Also me inside the church: :(",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,"Same exact DOGSHIT 2 brainwashing services in a row.
Pretty disgusting.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,"Minister started the whole doomsday cult shtick about how there's a lot of problems.
* Ps 37:1-2
* Don't be worried/jealous/envy the rich (This is basically hymn 95 that was sung)
* Matt 6:27
* Worrying is bad. Just don't lol.
* Mentioned inaccurate mental health things.
* Ps 73:3,16-19
* Was envious of the rich, saw how they fall
* Mentioned offerings and special offerings even if people are losing their jobs.
* Ps 37:4,3,6
* Gotta love how they read out of order.
* They said something about propagation
* Ps 1:2-3
* Be an obedient, fruitful cultist
* More mention of propagation
* Ps 37:5
* Give yourself fully to God so he helps you.
* I Samuel 7:3
* Only read part of the verse
* Devote yourself to God and him alone to become holy
* Wait where'd that last part come from?
* Lev 20:7 (I think they used VOICE, maybe CEV from the wording)
* Dedicate yourselves to the eternal God
* Minister threw in renewing our lives and the administration
* Ps 37:7,9 (CEV, judging by the wording)
* Minister mentioned something about God not answering prayers, he will at the right time, be patient
* Twisted into God knows what's best for you, trust him fully
* Ps 34:8-10 (TLB)
* Serve God, be showered with blessings
* Explain the poor members then",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,this just sounds like last week's lesson.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,Look up what “boasting” means in any dictionary and then look up on what the Holy Bible says about “boasting”🙏🏼,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,Hmm...sounds like Scientology. Celebrity worship.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,"Ahhh, how I wish my OWE dad will realize this. 😢 Nonetheless, happy for the progress of your dad!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,Probably when they find out you post here. lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,"Haven't gotten any special lineups for this weekend, so apparently no PPV.
I've seen it take 4 years of inactivity and a call to the ""transfer"" locale to just get delisted.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,I can relate..being a trapped member is making me deeply depressed...sigh..how I envy those people outside of this cult!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,Hahahaha dogshit I luv it,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,Yeah they’re all the same. I mean just look at the current listing of the seven deadly themes project 😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,yeah. they are almost in the same level. both cult also killed people former members and non members.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 06 - Oct 08, 2021)",q2bq2l,2021-10-05,Have your dad read 1st Corinthians 3:1-23 in the Holy Bible 🙏🏼as you read the whole scripture truly examine verse 21 🙏🏼,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q2bq2l/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_06_oct_08/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,"The title of the lesson was something like “The characteristics that Jesus Christ looks for in his true disciples”
Lesson was all about propagation and the six souls project AGAIN
The same lesson from the past worship services, really they just add a new adjective to talk about which was “disciple” and act like it’s a brand new lesson.
At one point, our minister read the definition of disciple from the Smith’s Bible Dictionary and apparently it said something like followers of the church of Christ. After reading that, our minister was like oh see we are the true church. I tried looking up this definition myself, and I cannot find what our minister supposedly cited. Minister talked about how the 6 souls project got extended to next year and encouraged everyone to hit up everyone in our contact list if they’re not INC. They must be really desperate for members considering the past WS have been nonstop pushing of propagation.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,"im not an expert but the Bible had lots of books and obviously has LOTS and LOTS of pages
so OWE lurkers here, ask yourself why the hell they were discussing the same Intensive Propagation x6 AGAIN?
cant you see that every WS was, and will always be, about ""Being an INC"" more than the stories in The Bible?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,same old sh\*t again. that 6 souls per household will never materialized and they will extend it again and again.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,"In the states where I live, it is basically INC Lite. In the more politically charged world of the Philippines, the results are more glaring -if more secretive. And here they are begging for money like girls because Ed's ego is in decline. Would any of you follow this church if that 29 year old wart hog of a son of his were running it? Finally congrats to Maria Rezzo on her Nobel Peace Prize. What peace prize has INC ever won? Check the Guinness Book Of World Hysteria. 😄😂",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,"Lesson features my most hated deadly theme. Intensive propagation.
Seriously, this is getting old...it even ended with the usual submit to the church administration.
What so good about being ""privilaged"" to go to church anyway (as per INC) when all you hear from WS is this insanity and cringe inducing repetitive garbage?
Also, INC's trying to spread covid again with their F2F cult meetings and their ""pulyeto (brochure) drives"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,Another pile of BS of membership in the Iglesia Ni Christo preaching. They praise Eduardo the fact that they mentioned his birthday fast approaching. What about Jesus Christ’s Birthday? Hopefully the members see the Toxic Cult Preaching of how they worship their leader Eduardo and not preaching of the gospel of Jesus Christ,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,"My delusional parents just took a picture of a white computer paper that states they will bear 6 fruits this year. This made me so LOL!
Two weeks ago when I attended my friend's church in a contemporary style of worship made me cry a bit, because I haven't received any sermon filled with love for the longest time ever. It was a nice change of pace in my typical Sunday mornings. Maybe in two weeks I'll just go to his church wearing a Crusader Knight uniform for Halloween and probably show it to my parents and tag them in social media (It'll be a very nice theme for crusading myself against the cultist). I'm positive I will attract lots of INC haters.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,"No attendance again.
Attended a wedding of NonINC to die hard INC
Wonder what'll happen when she tells the overseer about it
Probably expellation but can say you can still attend",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,"Title: Ang katangiang hinahanap ni Cristo sa mga tunay na alagad Niya.
Context: (more of) Propagation, Obedience to Church Administration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,Seems my minister's gone crazy and mentioned social media again. I don't think propagation lessons are like that for anyone else.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,I thought they scrapped that. Our locale is going for one per each group in each area. Must meet this by next year at June. I think it’s more realistic in comparison to 6 souls per household lol.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,"I looked up the definition of the word “disciple”, and the first meaning of it is “a personal follower of Jesus during his life”. This is a fine example of how the Iglesia Ni Christo truly preach misinterpretation of the Holy Bible. The INC’s LIE’S and false preaching are so wrong that there followers cannot really comprehend the truth and speak the truth of Jesus Christ’s Gospel. I can’t believe the ministry also added the birthday of Eduardo is fast approaching, when the don’t even preach Jesus Christ’s Birthday which is in the Bible. That should totally open up the INC members eyes that they are in a major CULT and that they are brainwashed in a INC Cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,Over 100 plus years of brainwashing.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,"They are so full of crap but the one joy we all can agree is that this 6 converts per household was doom from the start. They’re totally out of touch with the real world, believing that people will voluntarily join this cult.
To INC, you people are a joke. Keep extending it like it matters because at the end of the day, you people will look like fools.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,"Why even celebrate birthdays, it's a pagan practice.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,How we wish there's someone we know getting married every Sunday. That would be awesome. LOL!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,"1 or 6, it does not matter. It already failed. The initial end date is supposed to be 10-31-2021 for their narcissistic leader’s birthday gift because they’re dying to make him smile. Since no one can produce 6, therefore, they’re downsizing to 1 and the end date pushed to January 2022. Oh boy, this is hilarious 😂 They can keep extending it but the end result will be the same.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,it is still in effect in most locales.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,well the INCult is doomed and cursed from the very beginning to the end of time.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,"For sure, at some point they will just stop talking about it and everyone will forget like it ever happened.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,"And after extending it for a couple of years and change it from 6 to 1. ""Yet another victory of the church!""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,I don't. I never did. But my friends insist at times.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 09 - Oct 12, 2021)",q4cv0s,2021-10-08,Lol yeah it’s sad the whole project is backfiring. They’re so forceful that it woke me up. I’m sure this is causing other members to wake up too.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q4cv0s/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_09_oct_12/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"Lesson was about “how we should deal with adversities and problems of life as members of the Church of Christ”
Lesson explores this by constantly mentioning trust in God. Lesson out of nowhere, went on tangents about propagation, Felix Manalo and mentions of EVM.
Last part of the lesson was “how do we prove to god we have trust in him” which is prayer and worship service. Our minister then ends the lesson talking about how our beloved executive minister loves us, has hopes for us, wants us all to achieve salvation.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,another recycled garbage lesson. eduardo manalo just love your money and nothing else. don't expect him to love you genuinely. he is no different from other preachers who continuously fooled their members and suck their hard-earned money.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"Sigh...the way they keep forcing Felix Manalo into the Isaiah ""prophecy"" never ceases to cringe me.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. INC keeps preaching that life is hard while they themselves are the ones making life hard for us.
Life is about learning and experiencing things not hopelessness, destruction and hate! INC and their church administration have no soul and these OWEs have no life! Their lives are forfeit!
At least trapped members like myself here still have hope of ever leaving this exploititive cult in the future and experience life as it should be.
Stay strong my fellow trapped members. I hate it here in INC as much as you all do.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"EVM only loves your abundant offerings, to think otherwise is foolishness, he cant even love his own flesh and blood, brainwashed pa more ☺",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"After tonight's BS we was all kept behind for a PowerPoint presentation for the Songs of Faith competition. There was 3 pages just for the rules. Just for a sing in ng competition.
Men - no long hair and clean shaven was one of about 30 rules.
If that's not a sign for a cult I don't know what is.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"Title: Kung Papaano natin dapat harapin ang mga kapighatian at kahirapan sa buhay bilang mga kaanib ng Iglesia ni Cristo.
Cmon minister Randy L. Weir (who wrote the lesson), wala na bang iba?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"Once again nothing about Jesus Christ and his Gospel that which Gods grace flows through and we should know by reading the Holy Bible. Continues False Felix Manalo prophecy that replaced Jesus Christ’s Gospel. Membership, membership, membership,…..hopefully these followers can realize that the membership of this Cult of the INC can always be taken away. Jesus Christ’s UNCONDITIONAL LOVE is forever!!!! Please read John 17:22 Iglesia Ni Christo members and examine how you feel after reading this scripture🙏🏼hopefully Jesus Christ’s Gospel can reach you and that you’ll see the light which is reaching out to you🙏🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"""How the Executive Minister loves us, has hopes for us, wants us all to achieve salvation""
Is their Christ, Eduardo, and not Jesus?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"It's a low effort ""lesson"" even for the Church of the Church Administration aka ""Iglesia Ng Pamamahalang Pangkalahatan"".
Why bother INC, just do your poor members a favor and take their offering and send them on their way home. It's bad enough you rob your members of their money but also take their time too.
Money can be earned back, but you can turn back the clock and take back lost time. So sad.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"My friend please try to find the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The hate you have in you can be released if you find the truth of the Gospel of Christ Jesus. The iglesia Ni Christo has turned you into a heart of hate which is the work of Satan. Read the New Testament and seek the love of Jesus Christ, watch LJ Caraangs YouTube videos and see how this young man exposed the false brainwashing preaching of the INC. By watching his YouTube videos you’ll see the hate that other INC members have for him and how he turned that hate into Love. Seek Jesus Christ my friend he is the way, the truth, the life, and God loves you for seeking him. Good luck and God Bless you🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,Who the fuck cares about Songs of Faith competition other than hardcore OWEs? That presentation should have only been shown to those interested.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"Smells like additional conditioning for INC lemmings to just keep bent over and keep taking it in the proverbial ass for the benefit of the Church Administration.
Remember lemmings, ""blessings"" won't come down from heaven on a silver platter. Gotta put in work... Real work. No, intensive propagation is not considered work.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,Indeed. I think the executive minister is way more important as it seems.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"The INC trinity, God = Eduardo V Manalo > Jesus Christ.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,The very sad thing is the members are brainwashed and they don’t even know it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"If only I knew better back then, things would've been a lot different. I wouldn't have blindly followed their so-called teachings and beliefs as a kid and would've at the least pretended to follow them until it was time to plan to leave. My social life would've been different as well.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"Hey friend, sorry for all the hate towards OWEs but as a church member and officer, they made my life so miserable and stressful. I just needed to let it all out, my mental health is at stake here due to constant anxiety.
As for the bible, i did read it already from cover to cover from Genesis to Revelations but sad to say, I can't bring myself to actually believe in it anymore especially after reading some things there that are morally questionable...sorry but I'm actually an atheist. I just needed to use the bible to at least try to get my family out of INC and to point out INC's flaw in their doctrines.
I respect people's beliefs so long as they don't bring harm to others physically, mentally and emotionally. Religion can be a good thing if practiced properly, like loving one another, promoting tolerance and understanding, peace, happiness and helping others. Something INC just isn't.
Again these are my beliefs, I do not wish to offend anyone as much as possible.
Peace be with you.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"Especially if the gospel of Jesus Christ is not preached. The INC ministers say the words “Gospel Of Jesus Christ” but they don’t preach it (The birth, miracles, persecution, crucification, resurrection, and Love). The Bible clearly says to know God you need to know Jesus Christ, not no membership or submitting to any Administration. That what sums up this Church as a CULT!!! They use God and Jesus Christ’s name to gain MONEY and control from their brainwashed members who don’t know the Love of Jesus Christ’s Gospel.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"Please my friend read the holy Bible to know the real truth of it, or watch LJ Caraangs YouTube videos to know how the INC spreads it lies of a very false Prophecy of Felix Manalo.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"Life is short, you came here with nothing, and nothing you can bring when you leave here.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,Oh my. Poor Eduardo. I wish his son does better and not follow his father's foot steps.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,I’d like to see a great awakening where the brethren realize they have more power than the brethren in charge.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,"Wow! That’s amazing how the iglesia Ni Christo scared you to the point to not believing in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I totally understand it though, I can see the manipulation, and brainwashing tactics that are implemented in a INC member totally turn people away from the Gospel of the Holy Bible. God does understand your situation, and through the gospel of Jesus Christ hopefully a spark can trigger your heart back to the Truth of Jesus Christ and you can be resurrected to the knowledge of Gods love. I know you’ve mentioned that you’ve read the Bible but examining the scriptures and continuing to read the Bible will hopefully direct you to humble your heart. The fact that your on this Subreddit and I know your still searching for answers to find yourself, Here’s a few verses in the Bible I’d like to share with you Philippians 4:13, Hebrews 12:2, Hebrews 13:6, and 2nd Thessalonians 2:1-17",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,Yep I have watched LJ and I agree with everything what he says!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 13 - Oct 15, 2021)",q7231n,2021-10-12,I thank God for blessing LJ Caraang with the courage to unleash the truth of knowledge to expose the Iglesia Ni Christo’s misleading and false preachings.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q7231n/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_13_oct_15/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2021)",q93ip9,2021-10-15,"Lesson was all about “hope”. The promised salvation, and he holy city, the New Jerusalem. For the most part, the lesson was pretty tolerable and listenable because a majority of the lesson went on without mentioning Church Administration or EVM. Near the end though, minister started talking about commandments and then spent some time talking about propagation and the 6 souls project",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q93ip9/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2021)",q93ip9,2021-10-15,"* “We Should Look Forward to Our Firm Hope”
* Don’t Leave the INC
* Intensive Propagation and The Admin were mentioned as well
* Hebrews 11:13
* Philippians 3:20
* Hebrews 9:15
* Colossians 3:15
* Ephesians 3:6
* Revelation 21:4
* 2 Peter 3:13
* 1 Corinthians 15:51-54
* 2 Corinthians 4:17-18
* 1 Corinthians 15:58
* 1 Peter 5:7
* Psalm 142 (Not all 7 verses were read, but because of my inattention, I did not catch which verses were skipped)
* For the hymns, please see [this link](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzhk4l/october_2021_hymn_lineups/hf1ngha/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q93ip9/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2021)",q93ip9,2021-10-15,"the lesson was about how members should have hope in god, and that most outsiders can't stand a chance to survive this world, that's why they delve into dangerous things (alcohol, drugs, etc.)
also talked about how we're not supposed to lose faith and hope, even implying that it's sinful.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q93ip9/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2021)",q93ip9,2021-10-15,"No attendance.
My Wetherspoons breakfast was lovely. Visited Mom.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q93ip9/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2021)",q93ip9,2021-10-15,and don't forget your donations and offerings that's their first and most sacred commandment.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q93ip9/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2021)",q93ip9,2021-10-15,"I don’t know if I was day dreaming, but I heard the minister say the 6 soul project got extended from the end of this year until June 2022. He sounded like this was so doable for everyone. Lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q93ip9/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2021)",q93ip9,2021-10-15,"Awesome job in recording what the Iglesia Ni Christo preaches. It’s so obvious that they misinterpreted the verse’s and truly cherry pick these verses to suite their own philosophy. The key verse that has been very misleading and misinterpreted is when the minister talks about “MEMBERSHIP”. The membership that they speak of on how the INC members are the only chosen one of God. I would really love to hear a minister give the definition of the word “Whoever”, or “Everyone”. As in the scripture in the Holy Bible the Book of John 3:15 says these words “whoever call on me” or “everyone who believes”. It’s not membership my friends, that’s where the Iglesia Ni Christos manipulation and brainwashing begins. That’s how their preaching is truly FALSE!!! They say and read these scriptures but install their own beliefs and interpretation to suite their own gain to brainwash their members. They want their members to invite people of this world to hear their misleading preaching and worship services that are totally cut and paste scriptures that suite their own teachings. I’m so glad that this Subreddit was created so people of this world and members can pick up on the FALSEHOOD of this Church that is called The Iglesia NI Christo.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q93ip9/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2021)",q93ip9,2021-10-15,"To me the whole book of Hebrews feels like the summary of the Bible. It takes about about 1 1/2 hours to read it straight. BTW INCult ministers are taught that Paul wrote Hebrews versus majority of theologians saying it is anonymous. Well you see, God revealed to Manalo the Bible nuances during the 3 days 3 nights event. 🙄
Manalo and his stable of false preachers have absolutely no respect to the ancient Jewish writers and to translators who actually put in real effort in studying ancient manuscripts.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q93ip9/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2021)",q93ip9,2021-10-15,"How’s about the Iglesia Ni Christo preach LOVE, and Love everyone as you love your Nieghbors. But they’ll preach love your membership and Eduardo loves you, which is CuLT driven which the brainwashed members can’t see. That’s the whole reason I say these INC members are blind! They are so blind that they don’t know that the Gospel of Jesus Christ is right in front of them and Jesus Christ is reaching out to them. The very Toxic preaching of the Iglesia Ni Christo has blindfolded each member from the Love of Christ Jesus. The whole Administration which is membership based and NOT Jesus Christ based needs that blind fold taken off.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q93ip9/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2021)",q93ip9,2021-10-15,"Same for my area too, the six souls project is clearly a global failure and this will not change with an extension. During the WS our minister asked the congregation to raise their hand if they were able to register 6 Bible students… not a single hand raised 😆
One true church though 🤡😂",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q93ip9/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 16 - Oct 19, 2021)",q93ip9,2021-10-15,It was extended. You're not dreaming.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/q93ip9/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_16_oct_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2021)",qc9iul,2021-10-20,"Minister opened up with the usual calamity, disasters, hardships, pandemic, doomsday, end times of end times speech. I believe the title of the Lesson was “what we should look forward to as we journey in this world and hope for salvation
Lesson emphasizes that it’s not enough to simply wait and be a regular member, doing nothing with your membership as you wait for judgement day. You have to be involved with the activities of the church, propagation, give offering, etc the usual recycled Administration commandments. Lesson also took shots at trying to earn a living in this world, striving for material things, and I wish I was kidding, but there is a part in the lesson dedicated to downplaying and talking down on finding happiness in this life.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qc9iul/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2021)",qc9iul,2021-10-20,"Hi INC members who are not officers yet. Heard the lesson? It is not enough for you to be an INC member to attain salvation. you have to do a lot of work. You have to basically kiss the Church Administration's ass. Yes, It's a trap.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qc9iul/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2021)",qc9iul,2021-10-20,"Since the pandemic it always started with ""world is sad, world is coming to an end"" listing off the usual things like people have lost their jobs, many are depressed and since we are the ch0sen 0nes we are different from society and we won't experience what society experiences (as if we aren't part of society ourselves and we are all human). They emphasized if we really had strong faith we would show it by taking office and invite people who aren't members yet and trying to survive from life shouldn't be an excuse not to. The atmosphere of the people is they are literally at their limits and are dead tired and I'm so angry and sad because what they need is word of affirmations that acknowledge being tired shows that you are human and you should be kind to yourself but no what they have to hear is an ear-ringing lecture going on to make them think that their true happiness should be doing more for proof that they are faithful. They also mentioned social media for a little bit. Apparently we shouldn't listen to what people had to say about the religion because those who have something to say about the beliefs are evil and can influence us but here I am.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qc9iul/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2021)",qc9iul,2021-10-20,INCult is desperate enough to keep their membership even though they are shrinking in numbers. This guilt tripping and fear mongering will only work for some but not for the others especially those who already knew the truth about this cult. Keep on dreaming eduardo manalo!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qc9iul/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2021)",qc9iul,2021-10-20,🤣 smells like f'king desperation to me..losing members= no more free labor...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qc9iul/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2021)",qc9iul,2021-10-20,"Not sure why mid week didn't post, but here you go.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qc9iul/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2021)",qc9iul,2021-10-20,"1. ""WAG NA WAG TATANGGI KAPAG INALOK NG TUNGKULIN DAHIL ITO AY BIYAYA""
2. ""WAG PABABAYAAN ANG GAWANG PAGHAHANDOG AT PAGLALAGAK DAHIL NALALAPIT NA ANG ATING TAUNANG PASALAMAT""
3. ""WAG IPAGPAUNA ANG MGA GAWANG PANGSALIBUTAN (i dont hear this one clearly)""
-x-
1. Hard pass for free labor
2. The usual money making scheme (13th month pay)
3. Edi wow! Kaya di umuunlad buhay ng ibang mga owe eh...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qc9iul/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2021)",qc9iul,2021-10-20,This was only up for 1 day and there will be another WS later.. sigh..,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qc9iul/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2021)",qc9iul,2021-10-20,Basically more fear mongering. At some point some people need to ask themselves how many generations of their family have heard these types of “warnings.”,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qc9iul/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 20 - Oct 22, 2021)",qc9iul,2021-10-20,"lmao what nihilistic bullshit.
looks like i'll be daydreaming again",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qc9iul/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_20_oct_22/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,"- Obedience to Church Administration
- INC is the true church
- Intensive Propagation.
Same old shit again.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,"Lesson was essentially the same as last WS, telling us about hope and the promised salvation, but while we wait for that salvation, we need to continue obedience to ~~EVM and the administration~~ God. The main difference in this WS, being that there is much more focus on obeying the tenants of the administration and there is a lot more mention of the administration and our beloved executive church administrator.
Same end times of the end times fearmongering monologue to open the lesson. Lesson then goes over the promised salvation. We are the chosen -> the return of our favorite Verse + translation Acts 20:28 LAMSA. Rest of the lesson is pretty much trying to fearmonger members into being more active in obeying the ~~Administration~~ Lord’s work as they say.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,2nd missed service due to wife having flu,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,"So sick of hearing Brother Eduardo V. Manalo, Intensive renewal of life, Intensive propagation , Acts 20:28 Lamsa, ""Voluntary Offerings"", Always Attend WS, Submit to the Church Administration. Next WS you'll hear these ones again I'm sure.
Also F2F for me next WS. Guess I'll have to rate my naptimes and daydreams again...and reduce my ""voluntary"" offerings without my family knowing.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,"**Deadly Themes Mentioned**
* Don’t Leave the INC
* Intensive Propagation
**Verses Read**
* Rev. 21:1-4
* 1 Peter 1:15-16
* Col. 1:12-14
* Acts 20:28
* Eph. 4:11-13
* Ps. 96:2,8,9
* Philip. 2:15-16
* 1 Corin. 6:9-11
* Philip. 3:12-16
* 1 Pet. 5:6,7,11
For the hymns, please see [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzhk4l/october_2021_hymn_lineups/hf1ngha/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,"They Mentioned Felix Erano and Eduardo more than Jesus christ... They should make sign of the admins ""Sangalan ng Sugo ng anak at ang kasalukuyang tagapagpamahala, ka-Eduardo"" (""in the name of the last messenger and of the son and of the current administration leader, Eduardo)
And I hate it when they say life here is temporary and the best life is on the bayang banal... They telling this life is worthless and shouldn't taken seriously and just focus on the life they gonna have on bayang banal. what the hell? They are like Housing agent endorsing a free mansion that would you get when you die and you only get it by kissing EVM's ass in your entire life! Holy shi-
We should do the most of these temporary life enjoy living and sharing love for all..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,Slept through the whole service. 10/10 would do it again. Idgaf if the minister sees me sleeping anymore.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,"CWS Lesson was about No Celebrating halloween. Because it's pagan and whatever. As I was reading it, the kids began talking about what halloween costumes to wear. 😂😂😂
The kids were getting bored (no brainwashed adults around anyway) so I kind of just let them talk to one another as I simply read the lessons to get it over with (even the questions and answer part since the kids still couldn't read).
Seriously, why did they even have to make the CWS lesson longer and more boring than it already is by adding that long paragraph we have to read to kids prior to that question and answers part?
The question and answer part alone already bore me as a kid, what more if you have to read that long paragraph prior to that? Well, at least they won't get brainwashed by that particular lesson.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,PPV?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,"intro started with how the world is full of sadness because of the pandemic. afair he said that last week too for the intro.
some key points were:
- recruit a foreigner; because one you do, said foreigner will recruit other members once they're at their home country, and that's how the inc will spread further. to quote him, ""kapag nakarecruit ka ng foreigner, panigurado na magrerecruit yan ng kabanyaga nya. diba magaling yun? diyan kakalat ang iglesia.""
- brief minute about why we don't celebrate halloween. it's a catholic and pagan tradition, that's why.
- a criteria of people who won't go to heaven. criminals, people attracted to the same gender, trans people, cheaters, etc. even made a transphobic joke.
- related to the last point; even if you have strong feelings for something/someone, god's will always comes first. control yourself, and don't give in to your desires.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,"Apparently they need to repeat the lessons to reinforce what they were already taught. If a lesson needs to be repeated to them for the nth time and the admin still feels the need to continue doing so, it just means they don't have a lot of confidence in their members' mental capacity. Imagine the cult leaders looking down on members like they're idiots that much...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,"look eddie, you're in denial, we get it
the 6 soul project isn't working out",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,Get well soon to your wife!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,"As you can hear and see by listening to these repetitive preaching, the love of God and Jesus Christ is none presented. The preaching of Eduardo’s Administration is none inspiring and guilt trip intentions is heartbreakingly TOXIC that brainwashed members are blind to see the true light of Jesus Christ’s Gospel, which the INC don’t preach.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,"Last time I was day dreaming, the music Camel by camel was playing in my head entirely the span of WS 😂",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 23 - Oct 26, 2021)",qdwfs7,2021-10-22,Nope.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qdwfs7/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"Lesson was all about our beloved executive minister Eduardo V Manalo who loves and cares for us deeply. Our beloved executive minister who labors day and night for us. Or as the lesson was hyping up his newest title, the lesson was about “The Watchman”. This lesson is just blasphemous sick idolatry of EVM
My goodness, of course his birthday is coming up but Iglesia ni Cristo? More like Iglesia ni Eduardo Manalo… this lesson talked about the executive minister so much. Lesson spent a lot of time talking about and then hyping up EVM as “The Watchman”. This guy’s ego smh, coining himself a new title just before his birthday. I don’t even recall a single mention of Jesus in the lesson. Sure Christ was mentioned a couple times but it was only mentioned when talking about church of Christ.
Lesson also talked about to not be deceived by the Devil and false prophets 😂. Of course the most important commandment of Iglesia ni Eduardo Manalo, giving offering was covered in depth. Just mention after mention of executive minister,administration, and EVM, constantly being thrown at us throughout a pretty long lesson.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,INC lessons have always been bad but this one is a goddamn atrocity.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,Mid-Week EVM worship service would be the appropriate title because what the actual fuck was this lesson. A decade long extension to the six souls project is needed if a recording of this Worship Service ever got leaked because there is no fucking way any outsider would willingly convert after hearing an hour long service dedicated to sucking off some obese Filipino cult billionaire leader. This lesson made me so uncomfortable to the point I started feeling physically ill 🤢🤢,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"Eduardo V. Manalo this. Church Administration that. Executive Minister this. Church of Manalo that.
This definitely isnt the Church of Christ. Pray for EVM while he lets his members die of covid? Fuck him.
Evaded F2F WS btw..which is cool.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,Can’t wait for this thread to blow up after tomorrow. Lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"Title: Ang Bantay ng Diyos na iniligay sa kaniyang bayang hinirang
Title palang alam na. ⚠️⚠️⚠️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"I wonder why they always mention how EVM tirelessly teach us so that INC members can attain salvation. Even the lesson was prepared by a minister, not by him. So what does he really do?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"Because of the way people commented about this were just what I've in mind, its better not to attend another WS tomorrow, F don't wanna waste my time being braimwashed in EVM Evil Inc. again",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"Title: “The Watchman of God Placed in His Chosen Nation”
*Deadly Themes*
* The Administration (EVM’s name was mentioned numerous times throughout the lesson.)
* Offerings (A set of verses was dedicated to this Deadly Theme. See below.)
* Detractors (brief mention; see below)
* Social Media against the Church (brief mention; see below)
*Verses*
* 1 Peter 5:8-9
* Revelation 12:12
* Isaiah 62:6
* Isaiah 62:1
* Colossians 1:25, 28, 29
* Philippians 2:12, 15
* 2 Corinthians 9:1–7
* Detractors and Offerings mentioned here
* Haggai 1:8
* Isaiah 2:3
* John 4:23
* 1 Peter 5:7, 10
* SMatC mentioned here
* Mention of James 1:6-8
* Mention of Genesis 1
* Job 1:14
* Psalm 86:1-4, 6-7
For the hymns, please see [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pzhk4l/october_2021_hymn_lineups/).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"I’m beginning to think that EVM has a sick pleasure of watching everyone doing his bidding.
You know, when he says, “jump,” members say, “how high?”
OBEY AND NEVER COMPLAIN….Pathetic 🤮",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,I imagine he spends his day getting his minions to do his bidding.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"Brainwashing, manipulation, and False preaching as I listened to the so called worship service of this evening. Boasting of Church Chapels that the INC has built and Boasting of how other churches are not successful. What Church of Jesus would boast about their riches??? The answer is the Iglesia Ni Christo of Eduardo Manalo Administration. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is not being boasted about. Jesus Christ’s Gospel even say’s to Boast of him and not earthly things. The TOXIC teachings of God sending Felix, Eranyo, and Eduardo for the sake of our salvation is totally Satans work as they preach of Satan working hard in this world. Yes the Devil is working hard and his name is Eduardo Manalo!!!! Imagine guys or members of the INC, the recognizing of Eduardo’s birthday is coming up is so CULTISH that it’s members are so brainwashed that they’ve truly praise Eduardo more than Jesus Christ. I’m sure the INC members will praise his Birthday like it’s a blessing from God that he is an Executive Minister. Today’s preaching is so Toxic that the ministers manipulation of the Bible said that offering is a commandment of GOD, and the setting aside of money is a Duty. No preaching of Jesus’s true Gospel on how he is the way, the truth, and the life. No preaching of knowing of Jesus Christ is the only way to God. No preaching of to Boast of Jesus Christ. The INC’s preachings love to boast of beautiful Chapels and member numbers. This type of mentality is of the Devil that they’ve been preaching about. Also they want the members to prepare money as Eduardo’s birthday is coming this weekend. That’s truly non-biblical and truly go against the true preaching of the Holy Bible. Once again the repetitive preaching of setting aside of money and no preaching of Christ Jesus’s Gospel. The preaching of Eduardo’s hard labor is so Toxic that it’s like he sacrificed his life for our sins. Jesus Christ’s true Gospel has not been spoken the fact that Jesus is our Savior. The INC brainwashed its members to believe that Eduardo is a Savior. They speak of the Devil and Satan but don’t look in the mirror because they manipulated and brainwashed it’s members to believe that Eduardo is a SAVIOR. But only Jesus Christ can save us through his Gospel. I’m so Glad that this Subreddit was created so all people and members can see how the manipulation and Toxic preaching of the INC is False, and their main goal in its ministry is for money. I hope and pray that more INC members can find Jesus Christ’s Gospel so that they’ll see the misinterpretation and False preaching of the Iglesia Ni Christo. I hope and pray that a INC member/minister can read my comment to analyze themselves in their faith of membership if it’s for Manalo Administration or for Jesus Christ’s Gospel 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"I remember the minister mentioned mathew 24:11-13 stating;
about false phrophets that will result love being left away...
Said the church whose teaching ain't about love 😂",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"This was most cultish lesson in a while, it was all about our beloved Supreme Leader EVM.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,lesson sucked EVM off hard - and come the weekend I bet he'll be having a blast blabbing on about himself and how his critics (like us) are cursed and will never be saved,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"Non-attendance again
Wife still ill, and I couldn't be bothered, still waiting for a text to ask why non-attendance",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"Minister here somehow turned the EVM ego stroking into ""how can we be confused?"" and talked crap about evolution, racism, and trans/nonbinary people.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"The reason for me leaving was the appointment of another Manalo after the death of ka Erdy. At that point, I began seeing similarities between the Manalos and North Korean dictators.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"fuck.
who in the administration was desperate enough to suck off Eddy this time. seriously, i'd like to know who's been writing these lessons for the past 2 years.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,">Lesson was all about our beloved executive minister Eduardo V Manalo who loves and cares for us deeply. Our beloved executive minister who labors day and night for us.
ohh really? that scumbag eduardo manalo only loves his members' money and nothing else. the hypocrisy of that despicable person is beyond me.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"Maybe they're planning on gifting him with a luxury watch to match his new title. You know, to make him smile.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,Kabooooooom,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,">So what does he really do?
Aside from occupy space and consume oxygen? I have no idea.
That is an excellent question.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,Normally they would read 2 Cor 9:7 alone. One of their favorite verses.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,He really needs a hobby. Or maybe a mistress. :),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"Lmao, some CWS hymns that used to mention love don't mention it anymore.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"Probably because . . .
#MANALOWEEN is fast approaching! (Oct. 31)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,It is EVM's birthday on Sunday so that lesson is going into overdrive after the warmup during the midweek. The congregations will be forced to wish him a happy birthday after the lessons. I remember in the past I just used to stand there and say nothing.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,Totally,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,"And I think some important man's birthday as well!!!
They are going to make a massive deal over this for sure.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,Trick or trick!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,I remember one time we all had to stay and had to do a video recording to say happy birthday. It took about 3 takes because it had to be perfect. Gag.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Oct 26 - Oct 28, 2021)",qg8a7y,2021-10-26,And the third take probably was not as good as the second. Just saying.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qg8a7y/midweek_worship_service_examination_oct_26_oct_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,"**Foreword**
Happy Halloween to all! (Hmm...I think it *just might* also be the birthday of he-who-shall-not-yet-be-named...) To celebrate, I have decided to type up a very informal overview compared to my write-ups earlier this month, so happy reading!
(Oh, and EVM, if you're reading this, thanks. Thanks a lot. Thank you for proving what a massive hypocrite you are and never admitting fault. Thanks again, in case your ministers and workers somehow don't tell you enough.)
**Sermon**
* Main Topics: obedience to ~~Manalo's~~ God's word, ""It'S nOt EnOuGh To Be A mEmBeR""
* Deadly Themes: Mention of ""Social Media against the Church"" and ""Other Religions Are Wrong""
**Verses Used**
* Matthew 16:26
* Psalm 119:105 *(Read in Translation for Translators and The Message)*
* 1 Peter 1:10-11, 18-19
* Acts 20:28 *(No mention of translation, but of course the preacher still read, ""church of Christ"")*
* Isaiah 2:3 *(Whichever translation was used included, ""Yahweh,"" even though, unless I'm mistaken, INC does not recognize such a term.)*
* 1 Corinthians 1:26-29
* Zephaniah 1:17
* 1 Timothy 6:3-5 *(Social Media mentioned here)*
* Hebrews 3:12-14
* 1 Timothy 6:12
* Revelation 3:10-11
* Psalm 149:43-44, 33-38
* Ephesians 1:16-19
**Prayer Approximations & Breakdowns**
* Officers' Opening Prayer
* Time Spent Praying to Christ: \~30 sec. (11.81%)
* Time Spent Praying for Manalo: \~1 min. (23.62%)
* Total: \~4:14
* Opening Prayer
* Christ: \~10s (3.06%)
* Manalo: \~30s (9.17%)
* Total: \~5:27
* Closing Prayer
* Christ: \~40s (7.84%)
* Manalo: \~1:30 to 1:40 (17.65% to 19.61%)
* Total: \~8:30
* Officers' Closing Prayer
* Christ: \~10s (9.09%)
* Manalo: \~17s (15.45%)
* Total: \~1:50
* Totals
* Christ: \~1:30 (7.49%)
* Manalo \~3:17 to 3:27 (16.40% to 17.24%)
* Total: \~20:01
Lo and behold, the ministers spent more than twice as much time (more specifically, 2.19x to 2.30x as much) praying for Manalo than they did praying to, you know, *the deity that (supposedly) founded the church.* (Thankfully, there was no ordination, which would have meant a fifth prayer \[and more time to kiss up to EVM.\])
**Hymns**
* 135: ""I Draw Near to You""
* 325: ""Constantly, Give Him Our Joyful Praise""
* this showtune sounds like 3 different showtunes haphazardly combined
* 489: ""People of ~~Manalo~~ God, Give Him Glory""
* You might remember this lecture showtune from its debut in the Dec. 2019 thanksgiving...or not, especially if you flat out dislike this ""church's"" ""hymns""
* Right off the bat, the lyrics go:
* *There is no doubt whatsoever,/There is surely no mistake/In deciding to join this church,/Where we steadfastly remain;*
* Hmm...I thought ""God"" ""calls"" people into this ""church""
* I'm sure tens of thousands, possibly more, of people would disagree with these lyrics.
* If ""we steadfastly remain,"" then why are so many people leaving, trying to leave, and/or being expelled?
* 494: ""Lord ~~EVM~~ Jesus, Help Me So That I Can Persevere""
* emotional guilt trip:
* 1st stanza is basically ""world = bad""
* 3rd stanza includes lyrics about obedience: *""I am resolved and ready to stand firm and sure/In full obedience, to patiently endure;""*
* Processional 1: ""Indeed, We Are So Joyful""
* Yup, INC has processional hymns dedicated to, well, the dedication of houses of worship.
* This one in particular sounds like a CWS hymn, and seems to double as a submission hymn.
* Processional 2: ""Father, in Our House of Worship""
* claims: *""In worship service, our strength is restored*,*""* despite many feeling drained by the WS
* obedience hymn
* 373: ""If We Truly Are Obedient""
* Real subtle...also didn't we just have this ""hymn"" fairly recently ([29 Aug 2021](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ovcdt3/comment/h9s53xw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3))?
* 290: ""Let's Submit Completely to Our Lord ~~Manalo~~ Jesus""
* Even though this is the last weekend of Oct., there was no ""[I Am a Member](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jtvxZ_fay8)"". SOP dictates that unless the PPV cuts off before the 30-minute mark of EVM's sermon, the hymn won't be sung on PPVs that fall on the last weekend of the month.
**Other Comments/Observations/Stray Thoughts**
* Total PPV Length: 1 hour, 36 minutes
* Sermon: 56 minutes
* Tuloy Tally/Continue Count: 53 (Stick around for a stroll down Memory Lane!)
* Why exactly does EVM need 5 other ministers (excluding his reader) in the pulpit area? Do they not have other things they could be doing?
* EVM claims other religions are losing fervor in their services and have lost understanding of the truth. And this ""religion"" hasn't?
* If, per EVM, INC has managed to avoid discrimination, then how did it end up mostly Filipino?
* EVM mentions a preacher from another religion who would tell a story after reading a verse. Does he not do just that as well?
* He quips that a person listening to said preacher likely would not understand the verse after the story. EVM, have you heard of this thing called ""a mirror""?
* Apparently EVM says constant prayers. Barring the Manalo mantra at the end of his sermons and the benediction, when does he let the brethren witness such ""prayers""?
* Part of his supposedly constant prayers include his hopes that the brethren remain in their divine election. Well, who else would kiss up to him at all opportunities?
**Previous Tuloy Tallies**
* [25 Oct 2020](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jggehz/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_23_oct_26/): 45
* [08 Nov 2020](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/joyp2y/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/): 35 (tallied by u/carpeDM030)
* [22 Nov 2020](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/jxis6s/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/): 41
* [06 Dec 2020](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/k6e3q4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_04_dec_07/): 64
* Possible record thus far?
* [20 Dec 2020](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/kfeei1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_18_dec_21/): 49
* [03 Jan 2021](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ko57xz/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_01_jan_04/): 43 (tallied by u/carpeDM030)
* [07 Feb 2021](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ldpeas/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_06_feb_09/): 42
* [07 Mar 2021](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/lytjis/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_06_mar_09/): 46
* [04 Apr 2021](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/mizze0/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_03_apr_06/): 60 (u/NPCmasqueraiders691 tallied 62)
* Close 2nd...
* [01 Aug 2021](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ouziwi/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_31_aug_03/): 56
* Side Note: At just shy of 4 months, this is possibly the longest time between PPVs. Will we get anywhere close in the future?
* [22 Aug 2021](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/p8jq11/weekend_worship_service_examination_aug_21_aug_24/): 59
* [19 Sep 2021](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/pqei59/weekend_worship_service_examination_sep_18_sep_21/): *No Tally*
* [31 Oct 2021](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/): 53
Edit: Formatting",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,"recorded na lang sya pati panalangin para ipalabas sa iba't ibang oras pero ang mga kaanib ""opo"" ""syanga po"" ""amen"" e di naman sya 'live'. di ba bawal yung paulit ulit na panalangin. ginagawa nilang gago mga myembro na sumasagot sa recorded na panalangin. kulto nga talaga.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,"Whohoo. Gonna miss that.
Reason. Raining",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,"Why do they celebrate anniversaries of locales. Like weird flex but okay? It’s such a waste of time.
How ironic. They said.
People may have all the power and money but they are barred from heaven.
See you in hell EVM!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,"It’s a PPV by the narcissist EVilMan himself, with matching forced pictorials of “I love you po”, yuck!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,Expect to be asked to stay after church meetings to greet the Most Important Person in the Multiverse.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,Aww damn...will be missing out on this super holy speacial ppv bday due to....'cuz I don't give a f'k!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,Just did HWS again and avoided another F2F haha! Guess I won't be seeing our dear cult leader's recorded face on his birthday tomorrow! No mention of EVM or the church admin in their HWS lesson today so I guess I can say that I'm lucky today.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,It was destined for me not to see PPV. 🥳,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,Here is my summary of last night's service. Kiss Manalo's a$$ and you will be rewarded by God.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,"Hard pass.
I think I'll treat myself to a nice fancy dinner out.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,Do the ministers have to mention EVM in every prayer?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,"""It's not just enough that you're rich. It's not just enough that you have power. It's not just enough that you get everything you want–"" said EVM.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,Awesome data. Thanks for your effort. I am almost torn to wish you a great exit from INCult. The data you extract from INCult brainwashing sessions is something I always look back too in mapping out their cherry picked verses. I consider myself free from INCult since I stopped attending but my whole clan is still in. Freedom from INCult is when this wretched religion is gone. Exposing their deranged teaching like what you are doing is definitely a step in the right direction. Thanks again.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,Thanks for the hard work as always. 🏅🏅,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,"I’m glad that you can tolerate the lies,the manipulation, and false prophecy of the Iglesia Ni Christo. I too have to listen to it’s TOXIC preaching but your post really helps me cope with me knowing that I’m not alone. I’m so happy that this Subreddit was created, I hope and pray more INC members and Ministers can see the difference and darkness of the INC administration Lies.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,Waste even more time and show off the TSV's special OBS scenes.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,"Even us officers were being asked to include EVM in their prayers (I don't though, I dislike EVM big time)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,Yes because he's their version of Jeff Bezos.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Oct 30 - Nov 02, 2021)",qiska8,2021-10-29,"Yep, we're explicitly told we need to include him in our prayers.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qiska8/weekend_worship_service_examination_oct_30_nov_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,Salamat po Ka Eduardo take my money and buy yourself a jet and while you're at the other side of the world with your Mercedes and goons buy yourself a new wig. We can all tell how stressed you are with a reduced turnover for the past year. We look forward to more leech pulling lessons to take our money. Praise be to Eduardo este AMA.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,"Title: Ang mga taong may mapalad na kamatayan
- It's not a misfortune if someone dies. In fact, you are blessed when you die as a member of this cult
- Inserted the name of almighty Eduardo again even if it is unnecssary
- Reminded us for the nth time we should obey whatever church administration is implementing since it is based on the bible (oh please..) especially cremation. It is not allowed. (Lol but it didn't mention any bible verse to support this, funny)
- lesson prepared by Dan Orosa",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,dyusko kelan pa naging mapalad na mamatay na iglesia ni manalo. niloloko lang kayo nyan. asa pa kayo na may paghuhukom e ang tagal na nyan. kinuha lang nila yang doktrina na yan sa sabadista. mas maliligtas pa yung mga sundalong nasawi sa pakikipaglaban sa mga terorista kesa dito ke eduardo manalo kahit di sila kaanib sa incult. kung maka-claim ng kaligtasan e kala mo siguradong maliligtas.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,Let me guess. EVM arse licking.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,"All about the “Blessed Death”. Spent a lot of time covering the plagiarized doctrine from Seventh Day Adventists, that after Christ returns and the first resurrection, God destroys the Earth and there is a 1000 year period where all humankind is killed off and at the end of the 1000 years, Satan will reign and all non believers will be resurrected and tormented forever. 100% Plagiarized from Seventh Day Adventism doctrine",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,"Saan ulit makikita yung ""shrouded in mystery"" na lagi nilang sinabi kaya ministro lang ang makakainitindi at kaya patalon-talon sila sa Bibliya?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,"Hayzz...I'd rather die happy outside of INC. Just imagine being in heaven with all those people you've been trying to avoid.
Since the lessons has been on repeat, I'm working on this lesson template checklist for fun (inspired by church bingo).
INC Lesson mentions based on what I heard/read today
- Eduardo V Manalo - /
- Church administration - /
- Executive Minister - /
- Intensive propagation - /
- Intensive renewal of life - /
- Jesus Christ mentioned - /
- Submit to the church administration - /
- Voluntary offerings - /
- Felix Y Manalo - ×
- Attend WS - /
- INC ""Successes"" - ×
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa as proof - /
- End of the world (Second Coming) - /
- World is terrible - /
- INC Detractors - ×
- The ""Devil"" - /
- Taking church office - ×
- July 27 1914 is WW1- ×
- Erano G. Manalo - ×
- Attend Church Activities - ×
- Fight for your faith - ×
- Hardships - /
- Don't focus on this life - /
- Lake of fire - /
- Only INC will go to heaven - /",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,I'm sure our OWE minister said 'we don't add or r subtract from on the bible'. Really. John 10:9 for instance. The last sentence is never mentioned.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,"After last night's sermon, I remember thinking that if they ever give an award for most mind numbingly repetitive and boring service given by a cult or cult like organization, INC would probably win.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,"I just listened to another TOXIC, Brainwashing, and manipulation TACTIC of a so called Worship Service of the Iglesia Ni Christo. The minister said in his words that “Jesus died for the Church of Christ”…….PLEASE THINK AND ANALYZE ON WHAT THIS MINISTER IS PREACHING!!!! Then ask yourself didn’t Jesus Christ die on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins. This is another brainwashed, and manipulated words of the iglesia Ni Christo ministry that has truly brainwashed their members in a totally TOXIC preaching mentality. Also why would Jesus die for his Church? That’s saying that Jesus Christ died for himself!!They’ve totally dismissed the Gospel of Jesus Christ and go straight to God replacing it with the Administration of Eduardo Manalo. It’s sickening that the Iglesia Ni Christo ministry can LIE and interpret the Bible in a misguiding and manipulated way. This is all for MONEY the fact that they preach that it is a commandment of God to give offerings. I Pray that this type of manipulation of preaching will stop, but it just shows that Satan is working in the Iglesia Ni Christo to mislead people away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ!!! The say Jesus Christ’s name but never preach Jesus’s true Gospel which starts in the New Testament with Matthew (Jesus Christ’s Birth, miracles, persecution, crucification, resurrection and most of all his L♥️VE for whoever calls upon him. WHOEVER!!!! Not chosen, Not membership, and definitely Not Iglesia Ni Christo!!!! It’s WHOEVER!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,How long the lesson was? How many pages?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,Just like business with false promises but more profit $$$$$,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,As always it should be,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,"They’ve stopped preaching “One with EVM”, and still never preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,Good checklist,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,Is this a fixed list you made that you check mark each week to see if they mention something on the list?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,There are actually INC members who put forward an explanation to that... but it still doesn't justify the act of chopping that verse itself.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,It's only 3 pages. The time depends on who reads the lesson. Around 5-10 mins should be good.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,"Yes, I'm trying to make it as fixed as possible to see and show how repetitive their lessons truly are.
I'm so bored of their lessons, I needed to get some fun out of it somehow.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,"Just came home.
>Around 5-10 mins should be good.
1 hour long as usual. Haha.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,"Ok cool, would you mind if you could list the first seven on your list the seven deadly themes so it’ll be easy for me to record what they were for the wiki?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,"Oh. So you came home from WS instead of PPS, I suppose? I was talking about the timing for PPS. Well, not surprised about the time spent if WS.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,Sure thing will do.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 02 - Nov 04, 2021)",ql6400,2021-11-02,"Oh, okay. Well, I don't know. Haha.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_02_nov_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,"Here’s one of a totally TOXIC misinterpretation of the Iglesia Ni Christo’s preaching that caught my listening ears on today’s CULT service……when the minister mentioned that “the most greatest gift of God is the membership in the Iglesia Ni Christo”. This is so Satanic and False!!!! The most greatest gift from GOD is God sacrificing his only son “Jesus Christ” on the cross for us all for the forgiveness of our sins. TRULY once again as always the INC preaching has brainwashed its members in these type of worship service of FALSE preaching to its members. They also mention Jesus Christ’s name and verses of the New Testament of Matthew, but they never preach the full gospel of Jesus Christ. They CHERRY pick verses once again to suit their own teachings. The constant money offering and special money offerings again that’s gonna be in November 20&21, is another business tactic that this church uses to gain members money. They constantly use “God loves a cheerful giver”, but the INC pertains it to giving MONEY, and to bless that MONEY. God doesn’t need money only the INC needs it for the luxury lifestyle of the Manalo dynasty. I’m glad to listen to their false brainwashing preaching to really recognize how they manipulate the Bible’s words and can see how the brainwashing of INC members fall into their trap. I’m glad that this Subreddit was created to show people of the World the TOXIC business of how a church can make people give money for a church to become very wealthy.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,"Almost the same as last time but minus the cremation part I guess. And wow, they actually told us to take care of ourselves for once.
Based on what I heard/read today:
- Eduardo V Manalo - x
- Church administration - /
- Executive Minister - / (four times)
- Intensive propagation - /
- Intensive renewal of life - /
- Jesus Christ mentioned - / (twice)
- Submit to the church administration - /
- Voluntary offerings - /
- Felix Y Manalo - x
- Attend WS - /
- INC ""Successes"" - x
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa as proof - x
- End of the world (Second Coming) - /
- World is terrible - /
- INC Detractors - x
- The ""Devil"" - x
- Taking church office - /
- July 27 1914 is WW1- x
- Erano G. Manalo - x
- Attend Church Activities - /
- Watch INC's propaganda - /
- Fight for your faith - x
- Hardships - /
- Don't focus on this life - /
- Lake of fire - /
- Only INC will be saved - x
- Anti-Catholicism or Protestantism - x
- Salvation - /
Added: Anti-Catholicism and/or Protestantism, Watch INC's propaganda and Salvation",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,Nothing about the Gospel? Only the greatness of the all-knowing Wizard Of Ed?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,"CWS Lessons are more about the Stories in the Bible and their moral lesson today is, adding and subtracting god's commands is a sin.
They themselves keep adding and adding things for us to do and follow and claim it's god's commands. Then telling us what not to believe in despite it being written in the bible. They keep changing their doctrines! Who's adding and subtracting the bible now?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,"im new here, what is the weekend worship service examination about?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,Ano po lesson?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,Nothing is new with their lessons. Its a recycled garbage all over again.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,What does the “x” mean?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,Please read the wiki page.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,Just click the link in the description.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,Yup same shit different toilet.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,"Its a template checklist on what is usually being mentioned INC's lessons in general. X means it was not mentioned in today's lesson.
Just doing a little experiment since INC's lessons are so mind numbingly repetitive.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,"Interesting, I’m highly surprised they didn’t mention EVM by name and just used the term “Executive Minister”. But it seems the main theme then was The Administration and Intensive Propagation in this lesson yet again.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,"For all intents and purposes the mention of ""The Church Administration"" equates to Eduardo V. Manalo.
I have noticed a shift in prayers where there are less or no mentions of the most important person in world by name but rather by ""The Church Administration "". I guess the cult has observed the non-favorable sentiment of idolatry from the sub and have made the above change.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,Just shows that they are here in this sub monitoring everything 😂😂😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 06 - Nov 09, 2021)",qnrbhe,2021-11-05,Exactly…we’ve been discussing and criticizing them that the prayers are always about fat Eddie that he won’t burst into flames. So now they’re switching gears and not mention their great leader. They’re just bunch of dumb asses that they think that we can’t figure them out.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qnrbhe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_06_nov_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 09 - Nov 11, 2021)",qq6rqd,2021-11-09,"please refer to the link to see the entire lesson.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qpt3p2/mid_week_hws_november_1011/",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qq6rqd/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_09_nov_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 09 - Nov 11, 2021)",qq6rqd,2021-11-09,"So after weeks of being interrogated as to why we werent going to f2f, I finally ran out of excuses and had to attend f2f again.
EVM mentions total: 2 during prayers. Not mentioned by the Minister during lessons suprisingly.
Money Offered: Piso (One pesos) (for wasting my time)
Nap rating 2/10: Minister's BS was just too triggering, couldn't sleep through it at all.
Cringe rating: 10/10: Minister said ""ends of the earth"" means end of the world, ""far east"" in Isaiah refers to Philippines and World War 1 is July 27 1914. It's actually cringier hearing it from the Minister than reading it.
Trigger rating: 10/10: Minister brags how INC was able to give ""lingap"" despite the pandemic, how many chapels were built despite the pandemic and how INC was still able to do WS despite the pandemic. (That was because they forced their followers to give and to attend damn it!)
Lesson mentions checklist based on what I heard from the Minister: (I'll just list what was mentioned during WS lesson to avoid confusion)
- Church administration
- Only INC will be saved
- July 27 1914 is WW1
- ""ends of the earth"" means time
- Hardships
- Far east means Philippines
- Dont focus on this life
- Lake of Fire
- World is terrible
- INC's ""successes""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qq6rqd/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_09_nov_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 09 - Nov 11, 2021)",qq6rqd,2021-11-09,"I was forcing myself not to laugh when the minister had to switch bible several times because of the Isaiah 43:5 and 6.
Also, July 27, 1914.
All them lies for their own gain.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qq6rqd/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_09_nov_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 09 - Nov 11, 2021)",qq6rqd,2021-11-09,"I’ll just keep this short:
* Deadly Themes: Don’t Leave the INC (Main); Detractors (Mentioned); Offerings (Mentioned in Line w/ Detractors)
* “Hymns”: guilt trip (10); lecture/obedience (305); submission/obedience/lyric about remaining in the church (198); lyrics about duty (112); obedience (153); lecture/don’t doubt (4); lecture/world is bad/obedience (286)
* 0/10 would not recommend
* EDIT: Detail added for hymn 198",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qq6rqd/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_09_nov_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 09 - Nov 11, 2021)",qq6rqd,2021-11-09,"Good thing that Bluetooth headset exist, I can't bear to hear the bs spouted by those minionster",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qq6rqd/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_09_nov_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 09 - Nov 11, 2021)",qq6rqd,2021-11-09,Amazing CULT preaching of a FALSE prophecy that was truly made-up. Nothing to do with Jesus Christ’s Gospel that God intended us all to follow and know!!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qq6rqd/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_09_nov_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 09 - Nov 11, 2021)",qq6rqd,2021-11-09,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qq6rqd/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_09_nov_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 09 - Nov 11, 2021)",qq6rqd,2021-11-09,"Also, Minister added that he had a visitor who was once a fanatic christian, sought counseling/advice from him, saying the visitor's family shunned him, overall saying that it was test from God. (Minister was explaining this in a loud, sad tone)
As if thousand ex-inc members were not shunned by families too eh? They even treat them as fucking enemies/devilspawn.
Hypocrites.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qq6rqd/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_09_nov_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 09 - Nov 11, 2021)",qq6rqd,2021-11-09,The sad thing is they gain a lot……a lot of brainwashed members are way to naive to know the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qq6rqd/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_09_nov_11/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,"Title: Kung Magagalit man ay iwasang magkasala / If you get angry, refrain from sinning
- Your Highness EVM mentioned again on the first sentence of the lesson.
- Don't let anger make you blame God or your divine election.
- Our Church Administration cares for us and is ready to give his life for the sake of the church to teach us the words of God
- Guard our minds. we should be filtering what we hear and see based on the teachings of God.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,"F2F WS is three times as boring.
My eyes was doing the opposite of what is supposed to do for some reason. It tends to close during lessons but it tends to open during prayers. 😂😂😂
Total EVM Mentions: 4
Money offered: 50 (Someone forgot to offer so I was asked to offer it along with mine which is 0. Wanted to avoid the drama so I had to do it, I feel terrible)
Nap/Daydream Rating: 8/10
Not a complete nap but it sure was a relaxing one. I had an amazing daydream moments too.
Cringe Rating: 2/10
Just very slightly from those Manalo mentions. Too busy napping to care.
Trigger Rating: 3/10
The BS is slightly annoying. Anyone else got that urge to give the minister the finger whenever he pull some claims out of his ass?
Based on what I heard from the Ministroll:
- Eduardo V. Manalo
- Erano G. Manalo
- Felix Y. Manalo
- World is terrible
- Hardships
(Dozed off on some parts of the lessons sorry...)
All while the CWS enjoys a good ole David and Goliath, moral lesson: Trust God.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,"* Title: Do Not Let Anger Make You Sin
* Brief mention of Social Media against the Church
**Verses**
* Eph. 4:26-27
* Ps. 119:11
* I Thess. 2:12, 8
* II Tim. 3:14-16
* *[I might have missed a verse here]*
* II Tim. 3:3-4 *[IIRC, social media mentioned here]*
* Prov. 4:23 *[read a second time in the Living Bible]*
* Heb. 4:14-15
* Heb. 12:2-3
* Heb. 4:16
* Isa. 51:7-8, 12
* Ps. 25 *[?]*:1-2, 4-5, 7-8
**”Hymns”**
* 173: “We Draw Near to You”
* submission hymn
* 143: “I Offer Thanksgiving to You, ~~EVM~~ Father”
* 154: “Cleanse Your Heart”
* infamous lecture hymn
* 394: “Do Not Grieve the Spirit of ~~EVM~~ the LORD”
* lecture hymn
* 186: “For Him, We Wait”
* 130: “His Words, Most Pure”
* lecture showtune
* 286: “Soon This World Will End”
* glorified lecture tune
**Just for Fun!/More Comments on the Hymns**
* I just love how both 154 & 394 both include lyrics about ridding oneself of bitterness, but just how many members have failed and continue to fail to comply?
* Hymn 154 (verse 2): “It’s a sin to cause offense.”
* What they really mean: “If your last name is Manalo/It’s required to cause offense.” [If you sing “required” as 2 syllables, then it fits the melody!]
* Hymn 394 (refrain): “Rid yourself of all bitterness/And, from spiteful words, refrain.”
* “Those” members (Especially you, EVM!!): “These lyrics don’t apply to me, do they? Even if they do, I’ll pretend I heard nothing.”
* I mentioned before that 394 is basically a mixture of 57 (“May Our Lips Be Holy”) & 154. Why the music dept. continues to do the “same message, different ‘hymn’ “ thing, especially on lecture “hymns,” I’ll never know.
* Also, doesn’t this suggest lecture hymns don’t work? In fact, why not just throw out the whole hymnal (if it can even be called that) to make the WS that much shorter?
* I love how, as distorted as 186 has become, it seems partway decent (read: not quite as bad but still not really good) by comparison to the hymns it’s sandwiched between (including the before text & recessional hymns).
* It’s telling when the 4 hymns before the 1st prayer take 10 minutes just to get through. Makes you wish for a fast forward button.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,"I have no idea how it went from ""Don't let anger make you sin"" to ""Why are there so many genders?"" and ""Internet friends aren't real""
Mentioned the Administration 8 times and my minister went on and on about Social Media against the church and trying to guilt parents into sharing devices with their family.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,"If you want to hear this lesson in a better, nun-culty way then just watch My Little Pony S8 E23 “Sounds of Silence”. It’s one of my favorite episodes of the show and its moral is how its fine to express yourself just make sure to keep your emotions in check. It’s pretty funny too. All of the benefits with none of the drawbacks.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,"So the members shouldn't be angry if the Church of the Administration messed up? Oh wait. Since them are ''God sent'' them cannot be wrong. Lol
For me that's simply the subliminal message of that ws lesson.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,"This lessons are purely garbage, brainwashing and repetitive. Can they just teach a lesson that talks about more on Jesus and moral lessons? It's just always teaching about manalos, administration and repetitive lessons.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,EVM is ready to give his life?!?!? How about he gives up his luxury lifestyle and actually help the brethren who can barely feed their families.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,Di naman yan nasusunod sa loob ng iglesia. Kung totoo yan e bakit maraming ipinapatay ang INCult na kumalaban sa kanila. EVM never love or even care for the brethren let alone give his life. Give me a break hahaha he can't even love his own mother and siblings. He only cares and loves his brethren's money. The hypocrisy of this INCult is beyond me.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,Lol why don't they tell this to their own members who attack ad hominem to their expelled/former members? Hahaha hypocrites.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,Great play by play which is essentially every INCult brainwashing session experience of the enlightened. This comment can be copy pasted to every WS pinned post in this sub and will still hold true. Your comment will age well as long INCult still exist.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,"That’s all they’ve been taught to preach to brainwash and manipulate people. The iglesia Ni Christo is a business that uses Gods words to mislead its members in believing a truly FALSE prophecy of Felix Manalo. The INC’s Preaching Tactics has made its believers believe in a totally toxic and different prophecy of Felix Manalo, and now they’ve gotten worse in replacing Jesus Christ’s Love to Eduardo’s Love. You’ll never hear a minister of the INC ever mention Jesus Christ’s Love, the love that they’ll mention is Eduardo’s Love which is Satan’s work.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,I seriously doubt he has ever done much of anything to help poor members.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,Won’t even go out of his gated mansion since the pandemic started.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,Iglesia Ni Christo is trying to preach that Eduardo can be equally to Jesus Christ the fact that Jesus truly died for us all on the cross. The INC is using another brainwashing tactic to make its members feel like Eduardo is some kind of God. Eduardo should give up his life and die to prove a point that he’s not gonna be resurrected and that he’s gonna burn in HELL the fact that he’s been spreading lies and how he has manipulated the words of the Holy Bible.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,"I know right. Or say this to the top dog himself, who tolerates such attacks.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 13 - Nov 16, 2021)",qsrrqp,2021-11-12,Besides asking for more money 😂😂😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qsrrqp/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_13_nov_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,"Lessons started with the time of the apostles then proceeds to peddle the Manalo lie once again. The ministers keep repeating things that they already mentioned the first time as if the lessons weren't repetitive enough!
Total EVM Mentions: 5 (2 by name, 3 by the term ""Executive Minister"" only)
Money offered: None (Pretended to drop something when I really have nothing)
Nap/Daydream Rating: 5/10 - Lessons are too cringey, slept through some parts.
Cringe Rating: 10/10 - I cried inside while listening to the Minister say that WW1 was on July 27 1914, referred to ""ends of the earth"" as ""mga wakas ng lupa"" then insists that it was referring to time and brings that Acts 20:28 Lamsa as proof again.
Trigger Rating: 6/10: - Minister brags how INC continues to spread and holds WS despite the pandemic. Promotes BEM, and mentions INC's ""Lists of Exploitations"" (Attend WS, Offer, Intensive Propagation, etc.). Fearmongering of the 2nd minister about brethrens not having the holy spirit when not happy after WS (meaning brainwashing unsuccessful)
Based from what I heard from today's brainwashing session:
- Church administration - /
- Executive Minister - /
- Submit to the church administration - /
- Intensive propagation - /
- ""Voluntary"" offerings - /
- Only INC will be saved - /
- Detractors - /
- The ""Devil"" - /
- Intensive renewal of life - /
- Felix Y Manalo - /
- Attend WS - /
- INC ""Successes"" - /
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa as proof - /
- ""ends of the earth"" means time - /
- End of the world (Second Coming) - /
- July 27 1914 is WW1- /
- Hardships - /
- Salvation - /
- Promoting BEM - /",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,"Title: Dapat Mabahala ang kaanib sa Iglesia ni Cristo na hindi nakakaranas ng espiritu santo
Nice fearmongering",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,"Not attending
Recovery after surgery for removal of appendix. Nothing from EVM or other OWE. Just when will he return. !!!!!!!
Nothing says a cult like that
BTW if he's reading I'm fine no complications",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,"* “A Church of Christ Member Who Does Not Experience the Holy Spirit Has Cause for Concern”
* Deadly Theme: Other Religions Are Wrong
* Acts 2:38-39
* Eph. 3:6
* Isa. 62:11-12
* Acts 20:28
* Isa. 46:11
* John 14:16-17
* Acts 9:31
* Rom. 8:9
* Rom. 5:3-5
* Eph. 1:13-14
* Rom. 8-9 (Repeat)
* 1 John 1:3, 24
* Eph. 4:30-31, 27
* Ps. 51:1-4, 9-11
* The preacher did not mention any translations.
**Hymns**
* 64: “Would I Still Be Worthy?”
* guilt trip
* 310: “Praise Almighty God—Exalt Him!”
* last part revolves around obedience & submission
* “Let us now fulfill the purpose of our great election in the fold.” I think they mean, “…entrapment in the cult.”
* [470: “Never Extinguish the Fire of the Holy Spirit That Works in Us”](https://youtu.be/pwXOFyfL1So)
* lecture showtune about duty/obedience
* 93: “Repent for Your Sins”
* lecture hymn
* 214: “I Don’t Want to Be Punished”
* guilt trip
* commonly paired with 93 for reasons currently unknown
* 209: “The Church Belongs to God”
* self-serving showtune revolving around obedience
* contains the lyric: “Let’s all remain true members of the CHURCH OF CHRIST/Until the end.”
ADDENDUM: I do not know if this counts, but the preacher briefly mentioned Offerings and Detractors.
ADDENDUM: EVM outlined this lesson himself. Make of that what you will :D
ADDENDUM: Added detail to hymn 310.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,"There is no inspiration coming from DMs and others who castigate members about offerings (big surprise), the legitimacy of Felix & Co and speak down to us like 4 year olds. .",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,"Soooo. Another ""Special Worldwide Offering"" this coming weekend? Woooooow! I wonder what's so special about it. After the WS, the PD also mentioned to be more giving in offerings as it's the ""key"" to receiving more blessings from god. Oh my lord!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,What even is the Holy Spirit according to INC?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,"If I took a shot every time the minister said *Espiritu* *~~Kanto~~* *Santo,* I'd die horribly of alcohol poisoning.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,"HOLY SPIRIT for INCult is equal to crying your eyeballs out with the snot coming out of your nose. The intensity of the HOLY SPIRIT for INCult increases the louder the one leading the prayer screams with corresponding OPOSHANGAPOAMEN from the congregation.
I am so glad I no longer attend INCult brainwashing sessions.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,"I was wondering if we would have a webex this weekend? Its been three whole weeks since our lord and master EVM spoke to us, so it might be time. Was it mentioned?
Or maybe they will wait until next weekend, during the US thanksgiving holiday (the real thanksgiving, not the fake one that INC has).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,Bruh they blasted the hymns full volume this service. It was actually so loud I felt the floor vibrate. I would’ve said I don’t mind this because I like the hymns but my ears are actually in pain this time around. 470 is cool though.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,Your review on the lesson was great lol 😆,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,"It’s impossible to feel the Holy Spirit (as much as I would want to) when they constantly preach the same, predictable rubbish and propaganda every time. It makes me wonder if the congregation is even listening and picking up on these things. I may not believe in the INC anymore but every now and then it would be nice to feel inspired. I never do. And I know that’s not on me. Are we really going to start scrutinizing people for not feeling the Holy Spirit??",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,"Instead of trying to help inspire members on how to feel the ""holy spirit"" the cult scares them into believing so.
See what's wrong here? I remember low-key questioning this as I was growing up. Everyone has a different perception of things so how can one person/organization just judge them for ""not feeling it""? It has to be on the individual themselves. Just makes one realize how strong the fear-mongering and brainwashing this cult has been doing to its poor members. The cult is doing everything to control every single aspect of its members lives, down to the way they think and perceive things.
That alone is scary.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,Get well soon.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,"Surprised they didn't remind you to not forget setting aside for the year end Thanksgiving.
And also that there is a worldwide offering this weekend.
Lol.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,"I guess nothing about Jesus Christ and his Gospel……Jesus mentions in the Bible that to know God you must know me, and the only way to God is through me (Jesus). The whole Felix Manalo “ends of the earth” prophecy is all BULL$H!T and truly False. Jesus Christ knows and says that other prophets will draw you away from him, and the iglesia Ni Christo is doing exactly that! They say Jesus Christ’s name in verses but never preach Jesus’s Gospel which is his birth, miracles, persecution, crucification, resurrection, and most of all Jesus Christ’s L❤️VE for everyone. Jesus Christ never does mention a membership nor an Administration to submit to. This is why the iglesia Ni Christo does not want its members know about the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I’m so glad that this Subreddit was created so members and INC minister’s can see what they are brainwashed in🙏🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,"Little does a member of the iglesia Ni Christo know that they are being brainwashed to give money to the Manalo business, and that they are brainwashed to think the money offerings will get them to heaven. GOD DOES NOT NEED MONEY OFFERINGS. GOD has everything that man has to offer!!! GOD ALREADY SACRIFICED HIS OWN SON FOR US ALL!!! GOD wants the people of this world to trust and believe in Jesus Christ for he sacrificed his life for us all. That’s all you hear in the repetitive preaching of the INC “special offering”, and they use the verse “God loves a cheerful giver” as if the giving has to be MONEY!!! I can give LOVE and that interpretation would be suitable for God than money! Manipulating and Toxic teachings is what the INC is preaching, they’ve created their own prophecy to replace Jesus Christ’s Gospel. Imagine guys and think about it, they will never ever preach nor speak of the Virgin Mary as much as they preach of Felix Manalo. This should truly show that their TOXIC preaching is FALSE!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,it's when you're possessed with fervor and devotion to give your life savings and time to the COC. it's also when you unironically cry along with the minister's crocodile tears.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,Haven't gotten a lineup for it so we're safe... for now.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 16 - Nov 18, 2021)",qv9nu7,2021-11-16,No mention of a webex. Just the regular bull instead the extra special and extra long bull,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qv9nu7/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_16_nov_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,"Title: Ang panawagan ng Diyos sa atin ngayong malapit na ang araw ng paghuhukom
Same old.. it's not enough to become a member in order to attain salvation.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,"* God’s Call to Us Now That the Day of Judgment Is Near
* [Romans 13:11-14](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2013%3A11-14&version=NIV)
* [Ephesians 5:14-17](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+5%3A14-17&version=NKJV)
* [John 9:4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+9%3A4&version=NKJV)
* [Hebrews 10:25](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+10%3A25&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 24:14](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24%3A14&version=NKJV) ([6-8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24%3A6-8&version=NKJV) were also mentioned)
* [1 Timothy 6:18-19](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+6%3A18-19&version=NKJV)
* [Haggai 1:8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Haggai+1%3A8&version=NKJV)
* [Hebrews 10:37, 36, 32, 35, 33](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+10&version=NKJV) (Link leads to whole chapter)
* [2 Corinthians 4:16-18](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+4%3A16-18&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 24:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+24%3A13&version=NKJV)
* [1 Corinthians 15:58](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+15%3A58&version=NKJV)
* [Hebrews 6:10-12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+6%3A10-12&version=NKJV)
* Please note that all links above lead to the New King James Version of each respective selection. The preacher withheld all translations.
**Hymns**
* 235: ”I Thank You, Father, for My Life and Strength”
* includes a lyric about remaining in the church
* 282: “Sing to the Lord, Our God”
* glorified lecture hymn
* 41: “Be Diligent and Active”
* lecture hymn
* 247: “Father, Kindly Help Me”
* obedience hymn
* 113: “Lord Jesus, It Is You Whom I Need in Life”
* obedience/submission hymn
* 223: “True Are Your Teachings”
* obedience hymn
**Other Comments**
* Because of my inattention I did not catch the central Deadly Theme(s).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,"INC being all doomsday cult once again. This must be one of the worst WS I've ever attended.
Total EVM Mentions: 2
Money offered: 1 (I regretted it after hearing today's lessons and they were watching me too)
Nap/Daydream Rating: 5/10 - It was relaxing at first but then the minister started guilt tripping. Couldn't sleep after that.
Cringe Rating: 3/10 - INC being all doom and gloom slightly cringes me.
Trigger Rating: 10/10: - Let me rant here for a second:
This minister starts saying that those who aren't helping ""God's works of salvation"" are lazy (Really asshole?). He stresses the work of Propagation and Offering more than anything else. How each individual should have 20 converts within 3 years. (I read about it here but to actually hear it from him? WTF?). How we should help meet their locale's ""target"" (aka quota of converts). How offerings in WS aren't enough, and we should give lagaks and ""special offerings too"" then announces ""worldwide offerings"". (Kiss my ass minister). Lastly, the cherry on top was the minister saying don't expect any gratitude from doing these works. (Screw them! If that's the case then EVM shouldn't be getting any thanks as well).
Based from what I heard from INC's brainwashing session
- Intensive propagation - /
- ""Voluntary"" offerings - /
- Only INC will be saved - /
- Attend WS - /
- INC ""Successes"" - /
- End of the world (Second Coming) - /
- World is terrible - /
- Hardships - /
- Don't focus on this life - /
- Salvation - /
CWS (King Saul envies David) lessons were a little bit concerning especially their ""moral lesson"" part. They say that even if God's chosen servants (leaders) do wrong, we shouldn't raise our hands against them.
That means that no matter how many evil deeds EVM does, we shouldn't fight him because ""God chose him"". Damn...
Also the finance officers in the locale are being a bunch of cranky assholes today (aka masungit, probably because of the pressure from their cult higher ups). This cult sucks big time. I don't know how much longer I can keep this act up. If only my parents wake up now...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,"I have better things to do than sit around a listening to garbage.
Rather I'll be sitting around recovering from surgery",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,INCult is one of those religions where you can actually buy your salvation through offerings and donations to the manalos and santoses. Being a member is not enough. Of course you are never enough inside the INCult. They always use that 'judgement day is near' thing to scare the members where in fact it will never happen and never will.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,"""These are God's words, we must not get fed up if it is repetitive. We are just repeating what God says in the Bible."" said the minister. ""We must give, and share what we have — our ~~faith~~ offerings voluntarily."" he added.
*LOLK*
EDITED : That even my mother who is a former active officer, but still firmly believes the INC teachings is taking naps during the WS service.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,🙄🥱 same ol' recycled ish huh?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,"today I drifted in and out of consciousness for this WS.
from what im reading it was a good day to do so.
but damn. 2 hour ordeal today.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,The WS was surprisingly short to me. I forgot what happened because 256's melody was stuck in my head for some odd and unknown reason. I don't know if that helped make the lesson quicker but whatever even if I forgot the lesson it probably really sucks.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,"Because a member has to give money and time which means time is money. So basically, money money money to get to the Manalo heaven. Same bullshyt!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,"Oh dear, that judgement day still being waited on.
DGAF at this point. I'll be dead by then. Hopefully free from this cults' clutches.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,it's never enough for these people.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,whats 256,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,"No surprise it should be short, it's always they same message anyways these days.
1)Pay
2)Obey
3)Stay
4)Pay
5)Pay",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,"""Si Cristo'y Nag-Aanyaya"" one of my favorite before text songs",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 20 - Nov 23, 2021)",qxw7um,2021-11-19,I expected it to be long considering how these lessons are being inflated to ridiculous levels.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/qxw7um/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_20_nov_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,"Basically the same doomsday crap like last WS's lesson but a little more focused on how terrible the world is.
Lesson be like ""World is terrible, Brother Eduardo V. Manalo, End of the world, Brother Eduardo V. Manalo, Only INC will be saved, Brother Eduardo V. Manalo, Submit, Propagate and Offer, Brother Eduardo V. Manalo.""
Same old crap worded differently brought to you by Brother Eduardo V. Manalo.
Total EVM Mentions: 9
Money offered: 0
Nap/Daydream Rating: 9/10: Lacked sleep so I had a good nap (could only go as far as being half asleep when sitting down)
Cringe Rating: 4/10: Lots of EVM mentions today eww...
Trigger Rating: 1/10: Same annoying BS.
Based from what I heard from today's holy bedtime story
- Eduardo V Manalo/Executive Minister
- Church administration
- Submit to the church administration
- Intensive propagation
- ""Voluntary"" offerings
- Only INC will be saved
- The ""Devil""
- End of the world (Second Coming)
- World is terrible
- Attend Church Activities
- Hardships
- Lake of fire
- Salvation
- Attend WS",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,"Title: Ang dapat nating maging katangian yayamamang ang katuparan ng ating katubusan ay malapit na.
Ahh, same old same old.. it's not enough for you to become INC member for you to attain salvation.. but this time, they mentioned a long (same old) list of the things you need to do.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,HWS via WebEx. Due to surgery. 8 to 10 weeks recovery. Should take me through the UK winter harshness,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,"Translation from u/VariationItchy8630’s comment: What should be our character since the fulfillment of our redemption is near
Deadly themes: Don’t leave the INC (Main); Intensive Propagation (Mention)
For the hymns, there was only one (166) where the singer actually sings to God. Everything else was basically a lecture hymn.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,"And, forgot to mention, the INC lied to us saying there were no more Online BS, and we have to attend the physical church.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,"not so much the lesson today - i didn't care for it, as usual.
but curb the fake crying, come on. i peeked for a bit this time, the guy was just screaming into the mic. just get the prayer over with so i can go home and sleep.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,"We usually go to a Wednesday service, due to some work/family commitments, had to attend the Thursday service. Missed some really good football to attend that load of bull.
If you really love the church, you will prove it by taking an office. I guess I don't have to worry about it since I find the church a annoyance at best, and a load of bull.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,"As always, the not-hymns are good melody-wise but for some reason the audio is super weird. Like it was all over the place. From being barely audible to full on ear pain. I don’t know what is the deal with that. The lecture part happens and instead of listening, I just hummed the not-hymns to keep me from getting bored which made me showed me that the lecture section (from my experience) was as long as 323, 504, 486, 378, 325, 401, 503, 429, 326, 377, 394, 374, 327, 96, 508, 509, 322, 371, 402, 360, and 437 (with coda) played back to back. I might do this again but I don’t know humming quietly is pretty hard when you’re trying to get others not to hear it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,Yes reminds me of the lessons we had back in 2015-2016 during the scandal era twice a week and they still happen today and will continue to do so. It is a topic they just seem to focus on more.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,"Probably the top 3 commandments: obey the administration, abundant offering and propagation. It’s like commit any sin you want but just make sure you don’t fail to do these three.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,This is just a paraphrase from the previous worship service. They’re so creative 😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,"Oh e kelan na naman daw magaganap yang kaligtasang malapit na daw dumating? As if naman maliligtas si eduardo manalo hahahaha. Hwag ako eduardo. Simula ng malaman mong hindi totoo ang iglesia kinalaban mo tatay mo ng itatag mo STF kasabwat si jezebel, este si babylyn. Kaya ka nga nasuspinde nuon.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,Oh. I will be sleepy due to medication,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,Yeah that pissed me off. Great job establishing something as a safer (and also shorter and more tolerable) alternative just to shun it. Isn’t that just fun?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,"So, just like every other lesson this past year.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,Nailed it,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,"And you'd expect the USUAL verses such as Hebrews 13:17, 2 Cor 9:7, Revelation 21:8, Isaiah 43:5-6, etc etc.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 23 - Nov 25, 2021)",r0f38h,2021-11-23,cults take advantage of their members’ hardships to manipulate them so constantly mentioning Judgement day and Covid isn’t surprising.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r0f38h/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_23_nov_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,Being a member of this cult is really bad for your mental health. Bad for your pocket too. Di naman Dios ang nalulugod pag nag-aabuloy ka kundi si eduardo manalo. Choosy pa yan ha. Ayaw nya ng barya sa pasalamat. Anak ng tipaklong may tseke na nga gusto pa may kasamang cash hahaha,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,"The brainwashing of the the Iglesia Ni Christo preaching plants a Toxic teachings of Salvation is only through the Church, membership, and administration. This type of preaching is so misinterpreted, and twisting of the Gospel of Jesus Christ which is the truth and only way to have salvation. The Iglesia Ni Christo can preach whatever they want but it’s just sickening that they use their preaching of False prophecy to mainly gain a membership for the love of MONEY. It’s also sickening that they praise Felix and Eduardo Manalo more than Jesus Christ. The BOASTING of church properties and the amount of church members they preach is truly not what Gods intentions are in the Holy Bible.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,"i just ignored most of it, ive been having some extra negative feelings when i found out our local will make us go to the Pasalamat/Thanksgiving physically. Anyway i think it was like about lagak and its importance and it should be our true happiness that as a member of God's chosen church that we are able to do offerings, take this as a grain of salt i honestly felt i was losing my hearing because the minister we got this time was infamous for being extra extra ear-ringing and shouty i was more focused on wondering if my ears will survive and had thoughts that maybe i should go see a doctor because my ears has been really sensitive to WS lately to the point my brain is considering to just cut off my ears for some peace. CWS meanwhile had the story about the death of King Saul and i dont know something on how they narrated in my local made it seem the Israelites were Iglesia Ni Cristo members.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,"Doomsday pa more INC. This is exactly like the last lesson from midweek's WS with less EVM mentions.
Total EVM Mentions: 3
Money offered: 0 (I should get paid to listen to this BS twice a week, ugh)
- Nap/Daydream Rating: 7/10
- Cringe Rating: 5/10
- Trigger Rating: 0/10 - so repetitive I didn't even care anymore.
Points of today's repetitive recycled lesson:
- Eduardo V Manalo - /
- Church administration - /
- Executive Minister - /
- Intensive propagation - /
- ""Voluntary"" offerings - /
- Intensive renewal of life - /
- Attend WS - /
- End of the world (Second Coming) - /
- World is terrible - /
- Attend Church Activities - /
- Fight for your faith - /
- Hardships - /
- Don't focus on this life - /
- Salvation - /",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,"I would have more respect for Big Ed and his flunkies if they just admitted their bad decisions about the stadium, defying Covid protocols and character assassination against those not part of their racket. But pride, ego and petulant prevent them from doing so.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,"Offerings, Offerings, Offerings",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,"I actually learned something this time around. And it’s that to never ever go to a worship service in the morning ever again oh my god it was painful. I was sleepy throughout the entire thing. Because of that I forgot what the deadly theme was. I have to say though that I really love the not-hymns here. It’s the last Sunday of November so newer not-hymns will be used and considering how I only judge them melody-wise, I really like the melodies of the not-hymns used here even if 390 and 448 are kind of depressing but hey they didn't put me to sleep which is what I expected because I was that sleepy. I don't know what not-hymn is my favorite and least favorite in the lineup because they're that good (not counting AINC, Dox, and 286 because they're kind of disconnected from the main lineup). But yeah I clearly shouldn’t have gone to the worship service because I really needed sleep. Just like every other worship service, it has good not-hymns and terrible everything else.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,"Err eto yung pinaka ayaw kong panahon napipilitan akong pumunta ng kapilya para alamin lang date ng pasasalamat, sinabi na ba yung date ng pasalamat?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,"Title: Ang Lingkod ng Diyos na malulubos ang pag asa sa ikalawang pagparito ni Cristo
Same old, doomsday is near so we need to obey (and never complain) God's (administration's) teachings. 🥱",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,"Di ako umattend lol. Pag tinanong ako bat di naka attend, I'll just simply make an excuse. Yung pamasahe/pang handog sana ay mai ssave ko pa pamasahe ko bukas.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,Ano po lesson?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,Man. Going back to chapel for thanksgiving gives me anxiety. I have a feeling owes gonna be crying like crazy that day because “Holy Spirit”,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,"CWS lesson was about the death of King Saul and how David killed the guy who told him that he killed the king. Moral lesson: Don't raise your hand against ""God's chosen servant"" (aka, the Church Administration in this case)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,"If he was actually capable of doing those kind of things, the church probably wouldn't be struggling in the first place.
While I certainly don't know much about the innerworkings of the INC, I have a feeling he doesn't have anyone who can get away with being totally honest with him about mistakes. And all the mistakes made are the fault of others. The ministers, the church administration, the rank and file members, just aren't worthy of him. Just an opinion on my part though.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,Right?! They just announced special setting aside for thanksgiving as if we don’t already do f-9 lagak every week 🙃,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,December 25-26 for Adult worship service.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,">Going back to chapel for thanksgiving gives me anxiety.
Ain't alone.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,"The schedule could land your locale anywhere. But one thing is for certain. Traditional Thanksgiving and Christmas are holidays unrelated to INC. Not wanting to be upstaged, Big Ed diverts members away from these occasions as much as possible by pinning us down daily with a flood of special special meetings and gatherings and guarding and on and on. I show up less and less each year. Almost over.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Nov 26 - Nov 29, 2021)",r2paoe,2021-11-26,Same here 😐,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r2paoe/weekend_worship_service_examination_nov_26_nov_29/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 30 - Dec 02, 2021)",r5p3h8,2021-11-30,"Title: Para sa ating ikabubuti ang mga pagsubok at kapighatian
Not again..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r5p3h8/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 30 - Dec 02, 2021)",r5p3h8,2021-11-30,"more dooming as usual lol
I did notice a few interesting things:
* Instead of *nagsimulang mangaral* (**began preaching**) or *narehistro* (**registered**), the term used for the cult's 1914 establishment was *bumangon* (**emergence**). It's a small, yet important detail
* The lesson actually dialed down heavily on the Manalo cocksucking and placed more emphasis on Jesus (**I wonder where they got the idea**)
* I don't even believe in Christianity but imagine being so shitty in your religion that you have to be metaphorically tied down like a masochist to prove your ""loyalty"" to your god",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r5p3h8/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 30 - Dec 02, 2021)",r5p3h8,2021-11-30,"Didn't pay attention because I was busy humming. With that, the lecture (from my experience) was a tad longer than 327, 401, 437, 458, 326, 507, 449, 463, 324, 498, 390, 448, 322, 484, 457, 472, 469, 509, and 373 back to back. I stopped humming because it was really hard for me to hum and keep things quiet. As for the lineup I have to say I quite like it. 162 though is getting really overplayed but I don't care. They finally sung 5 which I've been waiting for for so long. 236 as well. Speaking of 236, I don't know why but this and 109 feel out of place as not-hymns. This sentiment only applies to these two. Not even 50 feels out of place to me. My guess is that the title makes me think that they will sound similar to something like 262 and 93 but they sound relatively similar to something like 435. Also I'm pretty excited for next week because I will have a vacation at my aunt's house and I'll stay there for the rest of the month. My aunt's husband is a minister but I don't really mind. When he's the one who teaches the lecture part, he keeps it relatively short so I'll be fine there.
Favorite not-hymn of the lineup: 5",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r5p3h8/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 30 - Dec 02, 2021)",r5p3h8,2021-11-30,"I listened to the preaching for a bit on last nights worship service and I noticed how they mentioned Jesus Christ’s name and how they manipulate Jesus in the Bible. They totally use their own interpretation of Jesus Christ the fact that Felix Manalo’s prophecy is preached at a daily basis, and that Christ Jesus’s gospel is not or never mentioned. The fact that the minister spoke of Jesus Christ got my attention but later the minister started saying that “Jesus died for his church”, and “only for the members of the church” totally turned me off on listening. They went on and on of the church administration and then the money offerings for the “year end” special offerings. This type of preaching is a fine example of why this church is a money business corrupted scheme. They preach a punishing God, a controlling Church Administration, a corrupted Leader and a False misinterpreted toxic gospel that Jesus Christ’s name is said and not preached. I’m so glad that this Subreddit was created so people of the world can know the truth of the TOXIC business preaching of the Iglesia Ni Christo.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r5p3h8/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 30 - Dec 02, 2021)",r5p3h8,2021-11-30,"Minister mentioned how members are giving even more during this pandemic. The last I heard, offerings were less than half lol.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r5p3h8/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 30 - Dec 02, 2021)",r5p3h8,2021-11-30,"The lessons stayed all doomsdayee. And it feels like this lesson will give the church administration the means to give their members a hard time even more through various exploitation.
Based on what I read/heard (did HWS today) :
- Executive Minister - /
- Intensive renewal of life - /
- Felix Y Manalo - /
- Attend WS - /
- End of the world (Second Coming) - /
- World is terrible - /
- Hardships - /
- Don't focus on this life - /
- Salvation - /",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r5p3h8/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 30 - Dec 02, 2021)",r5p3h8,2021-11-30,trials and tribulations are for our good,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r5p3h8/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 30 - Dec 02, 2021)",r5p3h8,2021-11-30,Mainly because the trials and tribulations comes from them admin. Guilttrips and being faithless if you cant fully cooperate with them. Sayonara masochism!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r5p3h8/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 30 - Dec 02, 2021)",r5p3h8,2021-11-30,"Repetitive brainwashing TACTICS!!!! The fact that the iglesia Ni Christo doesn’t preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ in the New Testament of the Holy Bible. They’ll actually say the words “Gospel of Jesus Christ”, but don’t preach it. They’ll cherry pick the verses in the New Testament of Jesus Christ’s Gospel and misinterpret and twist the meaning to fit their CULT interpretations for the gain of their CULT membership and money offerings.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r5p3h8/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 30 - Dec 02, 2021)",r5p3h8,2021-11-30,Thanks for the translation.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r5p3h8/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Nov 30 - Dec 02, 2021)",r5p3h8,2021-11-30,"funny you say it, that's how I've grown to become, my personality. Growing up under the toxic culture of the church, I felt guilty whenever I experience success and pleasure, and then find comfort when I am suffering.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r5p3h8/midweek_worship_service_examination_nov_30_dec_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,"Todays worship Service is so TOXIC and Brainwashing!!! I can’t believe the members of the iglesia Ni Christo don’t see the Money Preaching tactic that they preach. They first come out saying that the money offerings is not a made up scripture of Felix Manalo, then say say the money offerings is a commandment of God. The minister continues to preach the same Toxic saying a couple of times. TOTALLY TOXIC and a brainwashing Tactic for money!!! God has everything that is created in this world and surely God doesn’t need MONEY!!! The iglesia Ni Christo uses Gods name to brainwash its members that it’s Gods commandment to offer money. This type of preaching is all a BIG LIE!!!! Think about it guys, does GOD need your Money? They use scripture to manipulate “setting aside” and why they need money to build a church which is manipulated with the need of money offerings. Nothing of Jesus Christ’s Gospel and the Joy, Love, and peace in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. This worship service is a scripted and repetitive tactic that the iglesia Ni Christo continues to brainwash its members for money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,"Title: Ang mabuting paraan ng pagtitipon ng handog para sa taunang pasalamat..
Oh yes, brace yourselves.. with the upcoming thanksgiving and prayer meeting for the said event, we will surely hear more lessons about offerings.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,"Total EVM Mentions: 2
Money offered: 1
Nap/Daydream Rating: 9/10 - so I tried to sleep throughout WS. Wish I could wear earplugs, the minister's BS is so mentally invasive without any other forms of distractions.
Cringe Rating: 2/10 - those EVM special prayers are still getting to me.
Nothing triggered me this time. Too busy trying to sleep.
Lesson today on list form w/ details:
- ""Voluntary"" offerings - all about money on this one because YETG is near. No doubt this is today's deadly theme.
- Detractors - those who goes against the church admin will be ""destroyed"" and ""humiliated"" says the minister. Anyone here feeling ""destroyed and humiliated""? Anyone?
- The ""Devil"" - also mentioned along with those against the church admin.
- Intensive renewal of life - /
- INC ""Successes"" - ""more churches built"" despite the pandemic because INC is blessed so thank god and offer lots of money bla bla bla.
- End of the world/Second Coming - /
- Salvation - this is their main product and lure so they will never omit this ever.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,INCult is saving the MACEDONIA card for the next brainwashing sessions.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,"*Lagak* is literally just ""set aside"" it has no deep biblical meaning what the fuck Manalo
""Destroyed""? Do we moderators really need to bust out the logs and show the INC-TRG who really got ""destroyed"" here? And what about the Defender ilk, they seem going strong and unvanquished as well?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,I’m confused. They said setting aside is required and not optional. Are they now changing their position about offerings?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,Does anybody else have the urge to call out the minister during worshit serivice when they start twisting and make shit up?? No?..just me??,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,Acts 20:28 Alert !!!!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,"Surprisingly really short. Like it was split into two parts. The first part isn't even 5 minutes ling while the second part is just 30 minutes long. Still hummed to pass the time though. I did it less often this time around as there were moments where I was just staring into the void. Lecture part is a wee-bit longer than 306, 307, 377, 374, 378, 310, 391, 395, and 394 back-to-back. Too bad the lineup isn't as good as the rest of the lineups this month (the TG lineup sucks but this one is just forgettable). Favorite not-hymn of the service: 137",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,Anyone have a copy of their script for the WS this weekend?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,Because EVM wants his Christmas bonus too.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,"Also CWS lessons wants to remind kids that INC is a no Christmas zone. That Christmas is not for Christ but for Santa Claus and it's pagan.
Celebrating Christmas means disobeying god and disobeying one commandment means disobeying all.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,"It's the INC way to twist and contort things to align with their agenda.
This shouldn't be a surprise or a revelation at this point.
Don't forget that the more you offer, the more ""abounding"" blessings you'll receive!! Lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,They twists every word and sentence to make ends meet. It’s all about money to them and it doesn’t matter how they obtain them as long as they obtain them.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,I think most members would if it's safe to do so. It's been known that anyone who opposed them publicly found themselves 6 feet under.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,Yep me. I shake my head sometimes,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,It’s a manipulated tactic of buying your blessings that the brainwashed members fall for the fact that the members don’t understand the Bible and don’t know what the Gospel of Jesus Christ is.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,6 feet is 5.84 RTX 3090 graphics cards lined up.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,"In the Philippines you are correct, but I have seen it happen in the US. Not in the actual worship services, but I have seen shouting and cursing break out more than once. It was amusing to me.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,You have? Inside the chapel? I wish I could have seen that.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 03 - Dec 06, 2021)",r80yv4,2021-12-03,"Oh yeah, more than once. Wish I could say more, but doing so would definitely out me and my wife. It was very amusing though.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/r80yv4/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_03_dec_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 07 - Dec 09, 2021)",rb11qd,2021-12-07,For sure it’s about giving more offerings. 💰💰💰,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rb11qd/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_07_dec_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 07 - Dec 09, 2021)",rb11qd,2021-12-07,"I let my mind travel miles and lightyears away from the kapilya, but I've heard a few parts of the lesson. The minister talked about the injustice of the legal system towards the poor, favoring those who have the money and power. Also, he mentioned that some are killed defenseless. I nearly laughed my a*s out. Good thing I was able to suppress it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rb11qd/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_07_dec_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 07 - Dec 09, 2021)",rb11qd,2021-12-07,"If Macedonia does not make an appearance, it just shows that INCult is taking r/exIglesiaNiCristo discussions into consideration.
Hello INC. Better learn to tighten your belts because the ""sulong"" will just be a figment of your imagination. Now that brethren are waking up and holding on to their hard earned money. Hey ministers, better have a back up plan because your INCult boat is sinking fast.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rb11qd/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_07_dec_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 07 - Dec 09, 2021)",rb11qd,2021-12-07,"Total EVM Mentions: 2
Lesson mentions and some thoughts:
- Church administration - Church administration reminds us of this. Church administration reminds us of that.
- Intensive propagation - Briefly mentioned.
- ""Voluntary"" offerings - Also briefly mentioned along with YETG. ""Give abundantly"" he says.
- Only INC will be saved - /
- Participate in Church Activities - /
- Hardships - /
- Don't focus on this life - Seems to be the main focus of today's lesson. In other words, do Manalo's work and give unto the Manalo cause your life and your success means nothing.
- Salvation - their product and lure so they will always mention this.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rb11qd/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_07_dec_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 07 - Dec 09, 2021)",rb11qd,2021-12-07,"Title: ""Sa Diyos lamang dapat nating ilagak ang ating pag asa""
Ahhh the usual narrative.. it's not bad to aim for wealth. It's not bad to study hard to be smart.. but we shouldn't place our ""faith"" there.. in other words, we shouldn't focus too much on those.. lol
We should focus on the things that will make us holy on the eyes of the Lord.. of course the usual again, offerings, attending worship service, obedience to administration.. yada yada..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rb11qd/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_07_dec_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 07 - Dec 09, 2021)",rb11qd,2021-12-07,"Minister speaks of scriptures of King Solomon and incorporate’s its teachings to their own interpretation that benefit’s its brainwashing tactics. Nothing of Jesus Christ’s Gospel that Can help people of this world believe and benefit living in this world with PEACE, LOVE, and Harmony. The minister preached about membership and special offerings, the special offerings that is gonna happen on December 24,25, and 26. It’s crazy that they’ll do a special offerings on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. I’m sure this is a strategically done to truly draw their members away of the birth of Jesus Christ that is the celebration of Christmas. Imagine the people of the iglesia Ni Christo recognize their beloved Eduardo’s birthday and never once mentioned the birth of Jesus Christ. I’m not talking about Christmas I’m speaking the BIRTH OF JESUS CHRIST!!! Which each member of the iglesia Ni Christo should recognize and analyze the type of preaching that their listening to. The INC preaching will NEVER mention the Virgin Mary that is in the Bible and that she gave birth to Jesus from God for us all to know his Gospel. The iglesia Ni Christo will preach a membership that is using God/Jesus to gain money, and truly manipulate the words of the Bible for a special offerings for money. That’s Satan himself using the iglesia Ni Christo’s preaching and Eduardo’s Administration to draw people of this world away from Jesus Christ’s Gospel. I’m pretty sure that worship service will be another sorrow type of service and a brainwashing, manipulating preaching of membership and Eduardo’s Love. It’ll be a none preaching of Jesus’s Gospel like always and preaching of Eduardo’s existence in this world that he will be its members salvation to worship him. CULT, CULT, CULT in its FINEST of TOXIC preaching once again!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rb11qd/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_07_dec_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 07 - Dec 09, 2021)",rb11qd,2021-12-07,Any shout outs to the Macedonians?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rb11qd/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_07_dec_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 07 - Dec 09, 2021)",rb11qd,2021-12-07,Same! I was daydreaming but this caught my attention. Could it be a change of stance in politics? Will we finally support a proper candidate this coming election? It honestly sounded like a dig at Duterte.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rb11qd/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_07_dec_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 07 - Dec 09, 2021)",rb11qd,2021-12-07,Macedonia appears this weekend as expected,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rb11qd/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_07_dec_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 07 - Dec 09, 2021)",rb11qd,2021-12-07,"Removing the Macedonia narrative would be tantamount to them giving up on money, so no. At this point it's a goddamn staple of any offering lesson.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rb11qd/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_07_dec_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 07 - Dec 09, 2021)",rb11qd,2021-12-07,"> Total EVM Mentions: 2
I'm curious on how many times ""Jesus"", ""Jesus Christ"", or ""Christ"" was mentioned compared to ""Eduardo V. Manalo"". Think you could record the number next time?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rb11qd/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_07_dec_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 07 - Dec 09, 2021)",rb11qd,2021-12-07,Wait for this weekend's lesson. It's about offerings.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rb11qd/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_07_dec_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 07 - Dec 09, 2021)",rb11qd,2021-12-07,not yet. maybe they are saving that as a trump card for the last two ws before thanksgiving.lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rb11qd/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_07_dec_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 07 - Dec 09, 2021)",rb11qd,2021-12-07,I'll try but I usually tend to doze off during WS. Maybe that'll be something that can keep me awake.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rb11qd/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_07_dec_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 07 - Dec 09, 2021)",rb11qd,2021-12-07,I don’t blame ya. Whatever you can do it’ll be appreciated. Thanks for reporting!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rb11qd/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_07_dec_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,"I noticed that They give exact amount (indirect pero kung nag iisip ka alam mo na ""amount"" ang tinutukoy ng ministro) the minister said ""LAHAT"" meaning, kung sumasahod ako ng 10k per month ay need ko ihandog lahat yun... sabi ng ministro ""biniyayaan ka ng Diyos? ibalik natin ang biyaya nya bilang pasasalamat"".
May mga verses din nabanggit, like yung babaeng balo na inihandog yung ""LAHAT"" meron naman doon sa macedonia, same lang din. Ang unusual lang na ineemphasize nila yung word na ""LAHAT"" doon sa verse na binasa nila. kaya ang take ko kanina ay nagtatakda sila ng amount",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,"I'll go straight to my checklist:
- Intensive propagation - /
Cause why wouldn't they mention this every WS?
- ""Voluntary"" offerings - /
The main topic of today's lesson because YETG. If I had to drink a shot glass full of beer everytime the minister says ""offerings"", I'd die of alcohol poisoning.
Minister also says we don't pay for salvation because (reads a bible verse) we can never pay for salvation. Instead, we pay for our ""vows"" or ""panata"". I don't exactly know what the f*** that means. Doesn't change the fact that we are still paying for our salvation here in INC. Where does the money go to? Heaven? Of course they won't tell us.
Then surprise surprise! They gave a shout out to Macedonia again! He says they weren't forced to give more than what they have then proceeds to tell us to make sure that we ""sulong"" in this YETG (meaning to make sure that offerings this TG is more than last TG, greedy sunovabitches!)
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa as proof - /
Of course they'll cling on to this as thier ""proof"" of being the ""authentic true church"" no matter how many times this has already been debunked.
- Lake of fire - /
Nothing like promoting fear to make the members more docile.
- Salvation - /
- Total EVM Mentions: 3
- Total JC mentioned: 14 (They're using Jesus' name to make sure the members give more and more money. EVM's name has no influence when it comes to offerings)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,"You must offer offer offer. You hear this every December, but also in other months as well.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,"Pretty much smirking under my mask through that whole episode.
Minister: We are not enforcing to give a certain amount. God will judge you on the way you give.
Me: Your tone says it all Mr. Why so ""screamy""? And i bet finance officers will judge us based on our offerings and not G Dude.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,"The pastor was quite emphatic in today’s sermon, baka kasi malaki pa ang kulang ng local sa lagak kaya todo-kayod. What riled made me was when he said, “bakit hindi kayo maghahandog eh hindi naman sa inyo yan?” To my mind I answered, “kung hindi sa akin ito eh di lalong hindi sayo at lalong hindi kay Edong.” This brings me to think whether they can put their money where their mouth is. Can the ministers offer all that they have considering it came from the brethren?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,"topic is about offerings again because Thanksgiving is near. they were guilt tripping, emphasizing that poor people can still manage to give abundant offering. just say youre in huge debt and go",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,Lesson about offering with a side of major guilt-tripping.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,"Title: Ang Kaibahan ng Bayad sa Abuloy
All about offerings.
Through our offerings, God will be able to check
if our heart is pure or not. Because we should not stumble or regret what we are offering to Him.
Even though you are poor, you can offer abundantly just like what Macedonians (II Corinthians 8:1-4 (T4T) and widow (Marcos 12:41-44) did. Oh yes, mentioned again! 😆",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,"As usual, didn't listen much, but did hear that the offering should be a sacrifice. Coming from an administration that never makes a sacrifice, I find this amusing. Talk to me when his highness lord Manalo makes a sacrifice. Like flying coach or riding around in a Jeepney.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,My uncle taught the lesson here so it’s short. Offering BS is offering BS. The only other thing worth noting is that I am so surprised the prayer section happened after 146. I thought we would stand up at 42 because 134 is 2nd. WHY IS 134 SECOND FOR THE LOVE OF “GOD”. This reminds me so much of the weird lineups from 2016. When literally anything is 2nd. Best song here is 146. It’s still great even if the 4th stanza is about submission.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,Lesson TLDR or too long didn't listen: your offerings must be voluntary and at the same time not be offended and should be abundant.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,Macedonia even in CWS. CWS and adult service are the exact same. Disgusting!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,Yup! they pretty much were emphasising that we should offer most of our money. The minister also mentioned that Jesus monitors our offerings lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,"INCult is channeling Jesus for their fundraiser. Geez. It is a tried and tested technique anyways. The ""Jesus"" name is marketable indeed. Jesus knew about it and warned folks about it early on. Too bad my folks didn't heed that warning.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,I'm just waiting for when they cherry pick just the right verses to claim that to not offer will send you to the lake of fire.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,Every worshit service actually. Lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,"If i was safe already to leave, and my minister said that, I'd need the entire congregation to restrain me from beating the shit out of my minister.
My dad works so hard, and gets told ""hindi naman sayo yan"" fuck them, who cares if that's someone's loved one. They're too fucked up to even be pitied for.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,">Can the ministers offer all that they have considering it came from the brethren
Rank-and-file ministers, at least, are expected by the admin to be ""model offerers"".
Which means that a considerable chunk of what the admin gives them also returns to the admin themselves before the said minister's family can even touch that money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,42 is too fast,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,146 is suitable for Devotional Prayers and I don't know why 134 is the 2nd,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,Been hearing that verse for as long as I can remember. Since PNK!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,"Yes, he also mentioned ""God doesn't need our money"" if thats the case then i think na wala nang dapat ipaliwanag pa. Period na.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,Fundraising for EVM's Christmas bonus while he ruins our vacation by moving his Cashtaking day to Dec 25-26.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,"The iglesia Ni Christo doesn’t even recognize Jesus Christ’s Birth nor the Virgin Mary, which is the gospel of Jesus Christ’s beginning in the New Testament in The book of Matthew.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,I meant the mention of offerings during the sermon.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,Smells like a scam.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,Honestly it baffles me why 134 is 2nd and 42 is 3rd. That would’ve made so much more sense.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,Sometimes 134 is 3rd or 4th as it is more random today. In my past experiences 146 (which is just 4 stanzas and no chorus) was often sung 4th if we did not stand up during the 3rd.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 10 - Dec 13, 2021)",rdai1w,2021-12-10,"Does your locale stand up at the 3rd song often? Becuase in our locale, we only stood up at the 3rd hymn once (back in January 2020).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rdai1w/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_10_dec_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 14 - Dec 16, 2021)",rg9anc,2021-12-14,"Once again nothing to do with Jesus Christ’s Gospel that’s in the New Testament!! The Birth, the miracles, the persecution, his crucification, his resurrection, and most of all Jesus Christ’s LOVE for ALL who call upon him. The Iglesia Ni Christo has manipulated the meaning of Christmas and the the members are very blinded to see the special money offers each end of the year is a Truly TOXIC TACTIC so their leader (Eduardo) and his family can live a lavish lifestyle. The LOVE, JOY, And PEACE that Christmas brings to people’s hearts are totally vanished out of its brainwashing preaching. None of the Love, peace and harmony for everyone on earth is preached with the Iglesia Ni Christo. It’s Gods plan to have peace on earth through Jesus Christ. The Iglesia Ni Christo preaches a PUNISHING GOD that need your money offerings and a LOVING of a membership that only the members of the Church will be blessed to go to heaven. A VERY, VERY sad TOXIC, BRAINWASHING and MANIPULATED way these iglesia Ni Christo members are programmed to live. I’m so glad that this Subreddit was created so the members of the Iglesia Ni Christo can wake up from the nightmare of this Cult🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rg9anc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_14_dec_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 14 - Dec 16, 2021)",rg9anc,2021-12-14,"Title: Lubusin na natin ang pagbibigay kasiyahan sa Diyos
☑️ Eduardo Manalo / Pamamahala mentioned
☑️ Attend worship services
☑️ Intensive Propagation
☑️ Be careful on using social media
""Huwag tayong makisangkot sa mga nagtuturo ng bagay na walang katotohanan. Kaya, masamang makisimpatiya sa mga nagtuturo ng salungat sa mga aral ng Diyos na tinanggap natin mula sa Sugo at sa pamamahala. Huwag nating tangkilikin ang mga POST o CONTENT ng mga gayong uri ng tao.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rg9anc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_14_dec_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 14 - Dec 16, 2021)",rg9anc,2021-12-14,"Mentioned that one verse about how murderers, homosexuals etc will not inherit. I forgot that verse. Prayers were the same as usual. prayed for EVM and such. said something about careful being on social media especially for the youth.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rg9anc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_14_dec_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 14 - Dec 16, 2021)",rg9anc,2021-12-14,"lmao INC members should not have dealings with groups and organizations that speak lies and do unbiblical acts? Then what the hell are the Manalos doing consorting with the Marcos and Duterte political cabals?
oh, and screw the minister who led the WS where I am. He literally had a 20-minute spiel *after* the last verse was mentioned.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rg9anc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_14_dec_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 14 - Dec 16, 2021)",rg9anc,2021-12-14,Far too long 42 mins so far,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rg9anc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_14_dec_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 14 - Dec 16, 2021)",rg9anc,2021-12-14,"Homophobic INC oh how I missed you! Now let me just spend 15 minutes in my room trying to **rid you from my mind.** Seriously though. This lesson was ASTONISHINGLY bad. It’s the typical “world is ending we’re the chosen ones here’s how to be a member” but my god was is painfully inflated. Also wow was the the minister terrible at making examples. In one part of the lesson, they were talking about being physically present but mentally absent and the minister‘s example was that a member may be in the church but what he’s really thinking of is how he forgot to turn off the stove. Like wtf is that example? Of course he’d be thinking about the stove not being turned off his house might’ve been burning. And of course we can’t forget INC rules of love. Apparently, having sex before marriage and potentially risking early pregnancy isn’t as bad at as being gay. Also trying to shun people for not getting other people to join the cult because of course. The song lineup is also pretty lame. Sure 139 being second is interesting and I actually really like all of the songs but half of the lineup is filled with repeats from last month (247 and 139). 151 was a repeat from two months ago and 319 was a repeat from three months ago. Also I really needed to go to the bathroom so it being as long as it is was painful. And also social media bullcrap as always. There’s nothing else I need to say. Just the best song here which is 247.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rg9anc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_14_dec_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 14 - Dec 16, 2021)",rg9anc,2021-12-14,"Tho only one getting pleased in this damn cult is the Church administration. Especially EVM, our ""beloved"" cult leader.
On prayers and lessons:
- Total EVM/Church Admin mentions: 14
- Total Jesus Christ mentioned: 14
The things the minister talked about this brainwashing session:
- Intensive propagation - /
Why of course they'll remind us of this sh** again! They're obviously losing members and they're desperate!
- ""Voluntary"" offerings - /
Cause their bottom line matters more than the lives of children. Did you know that they're still going to push through with this CWS thanksgiving no matter what despite the incoming super typhoon here in PH?
- Social media against the church - /
He tells us not to sympathize with those who spread ""untruthful"" things about the church online and be careful on using social media.
I'm simply sharing my personal experience and what I'm seeing and hearing from INC so it's safe to say that I'm being truthful to what I'm writing here and I'm simply expressing my thoughts. Something I can't do in person while in INC.
- Intensive renewal of life - /
Doesn't seem to keep them higher ups from being assholes.
- Attend WS - /
Reminded us to come excessively early like an hour before. I'd be glad to not come at all if it weren't for my family.
- INC ""Successes"" - /
Talks about how the church ""sulonged"" and how we should ""sulong"" this TG.
- ""ends of the earth"" means time - /
Minister keeps saying ""mga wakas ng lupa"" like the end of the world will happen multiple times in this time.
- End of the world (Second Coming) - /
The lesson started with this doomsday trash.
- World is terrible - /
The Pandemic was being used to talk about this.
- Hardships - /
No jobs, no money, bla bla bla...
- Salvation - /
So die serving now and give us your time, money and life. You will be saved because this writing in a book we have says so.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rg9anc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_14_dec_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 14 - Dec 16, 2021)",rg9anc,2021-12-14,"oh i cant forget to mention, the crying with the prayer omg. so fake LOL",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rg9anc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_14_dec_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 14 - Dec 16, 2021)",rg9anc,2021-12-14,how do you remember all these? do you write them down?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rg9anc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_14_dec_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 14 - Dec 16, 2021)",rg9anc,2021-12-14,"With nothing else to do and with me getting bored, it's easier to remember most of the things they say. I also have a counting technique to tally up to two things.
I also have a checklist in store. The things they say comes back to me when I look at it after WS.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rg9anc/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_14_dec_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 17 - Dec 20, 2021)",rij8vx,2021-12-17,Yes here in UK Thanksgiving via WebEx. Didn't listen to any of it had Eng v Aus on the headphones.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rij8vx/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_17_dec_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 17 - Dec 20, 2021)",rij8vx,2021-12-17,"Only one more week to prepare for the holy giving of the money (that they already gave and now get to give again) to the Manalo enrichment fund, I mean God, so they can buy more ghost towns and do nothing with them. And pay for the arena so that Guns and Roses can come and sing about Sex, Drugs, and Rock n Roll.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rij8vx/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_17_dec_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 17 - Dec 20, 2021)",rij8vx,2021-12-17,"The minister outright told us that we must make sure our offerings would ""sulong"". He stated that the eternal life God will surely give to the INC is such a HUGGGEEE blessing so the LEAST we can do is to offer MORE THAN we are capable of 'cause it makes God happy :)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rij8vx/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_17_dec_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 17 - Dec 20, 2021)",rij8vx,2021-12-17,"today was the same shit.
they emphasized that members shouldn't listen to the haters and just give your offerings.
eddy boy is apparently doing thankshitting this year via stream. speaking of shitting, there goes 2-3 hours of my life down the toilet.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rij8vx/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_17_dec_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 17 - Dec 20, 2021)",rij8vx,2021-12-17,"Title: Naghahandog tayo ng pagpapasalamat sa Diyos upang luwalhatiin siya
Feeling drowsy throughout the entire lesson but the notable part was they mentioned ""mga wakas ng lupa"" or ends of the earth as time",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rij8vx/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_17_dec_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 17 - Dec 20, 2021)",rij8vx,2021-12-17,"To all still giving money to the Manalo Conglomerate no matter how small, we are their Santa Claus.
I am the only one that brings in money to my family. So, for the sake of peace, I give my family a buck each 2 x a week for their “offerings”. Stocking stuffers, I guess. All year round. FU Manalo money grabbers. May my hard earned money that you take in bring you misery, just like how your patriarch, Felix Manalo’s false doctrine made my family’s life miserable.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rij8vx/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_17_dec_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 17 - Dec 20, 2021)",rij8vx,2021-12-17,"Don't worry INCult, message received.
My empty envelope is ready!
Prepare for massive 'Urong' all over the world. =P",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rij8vx/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_17_dec_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 17 - Dec 20, 2021)",rij8vx,2021-12-17,"I didn't get enough sleep so I resumed sleeping during the entire WS (except for the part where we had to stand, and the part where the minister cringed me awake by saying ""ends of the earth"" again and again).
I almost didn't stand up after their lesson.
And I got away with not offering anything during CWS thanksgiving. Sorry nalang pag ""umurong"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rij8vx/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_17_dec_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 17 - Dec 20, 2021)",rij8vx,2021-12-17,AMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA heavy distorted guitar inserted CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG AMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rij8vx/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_17_dec_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 17 - Dec 20, 2021)",rij8vx,2021-12-17,😫 I miss doing webex. Never had to waste gas and got to watch a show during worshit services. Uughh,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rij8vx/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_17_dec_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 17 - Dec 20, 2021)",rij8vx,2021-12-17,Imagine the iglesia Ni Christo never preached Jesus Christ’s Gospel. They’d rather preach on twisting the Bible scriptures to their own interpretation to brainwash their members into giving offerings and making Gods words into giving offerings rather than to spread the love of Jesus Christ.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rij8vx/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_17_dec_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 17 - Dec 20, 2021)",rij8vx,2021-12-17,I know some members used to call it pay-per-view like how Filipinos gather during a Pacquiao match. Just remove the entertaining parts!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rij8vx/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_17_dec_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"Giving Thanks……….The iglesia Ni Christo truly has misinterpreted the meaning and Gods intentions of “Giving Thanks”. In the iglesia Ni Christo Cult the giving of thanks is truly based on giving money. God does not need money, he already has everything that we have. God wants us all to “give thanks” for daily life, for example…….I would give thanks to God for letting me to wake up everyday in the morning. I would give thanks to God for being alive and having the great gift of life. The iglesia Ni Christo is totally opposite of giving thanks, they want their members to give money offerings to God and make a BIG LIE that it’s Gods commandment. The iglesia Ni Christo members are truly brainwashed and mislead by their preaching. The very toxic and unchristian like preaching the iglesia Ni Christo preaching is truly a work of Satan himself the fact that Jesus Christ’s Gospel is not preached.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"Minister didn’t even sugar coat it anymore. Things that were said in the WS:
“If you believe in God, then you believe that he can equally bless and curse us”
“If you believe in God you should give him a sacrifice which is your offering”
“If you don’t offer, you will be cursed”
“You should offer more *insert bible verse* and you won’t become poor if you offer more. People always worry they won’t have enough after offering but we shouldn’t think that way because if you offer more God will bless us”
🤡🤡🤡",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"On that episode Deutronomy 15:4-5 stand out to me.
Got home read the entire chapter.
15:1-3 talks about the release of debts after 7 years and if one forgives debts, you'll be blessed hence we got to 15:4-5. However still its not about the offering.
To be fair the later parts is really about offering however it refers to how you offer livestock specifically sheep.
Still that 7 year rule is quite interesting. If it's practice more members will go for debts and hide for 7 years. Hahaha",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,The audacity of this lesson to speak about injustices and false accusations when Angel Manalo exists.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"So basically, God's service isn't for free. Being grateful to God is not enough. No matter how they put it, you're basically still paying for salvation.
If you don't pay, you get cursed. Being poor is not an excuse. Is this your definition of God's love INC? Here's what I think, God's love is totally conditional. Your ministers said it.
What is God's condition to do this and to feel that? Yeah, I keep hearing this from the ministers from time to time. INC doesn't know what unconditional love means!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"Title: Maraming Dahilan para tayo magpasalamat sa Diyos
Didn't bother to read the soft copy lesson. It's too long and was written by EVM himself",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"Apparently, our blessings(end of the year bonuses) are fully God's(eddie's) and we should return it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"The year was sooo hard and there's all sorts of injustice and natural disasters.
But you won't be expelled for not offering, but God will just curse your livelihood and won't help you.
So gather up your life savings and more and drop it in the offering box.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"Oh boy.... this Worship service is actually my 2nd favorite this year so far. Right behind CWS TG DEC (I’ll explain that in the future). Probably because the lesson was basically just a culmination of previous lessons and honestly because of that I just stopped caring. Also my uncle taught the lecture this time so it’s short and therefore more tolerable. Also the songs. While I am disappointed that 504 has no S1, everything else is pretty great. 508 has grown on me (as does literally every song that comes from them), 504 is still super fun to sing, and yeah I thoroughly had a good time with this one. Now of course it has flaws. Big flaws. It’s a culmination of the garbage we’ve been hearing for the past few weeks (excluding the homophobic sections thankfully), mainly offering and world-ending, and honestly my positivity towards this WS completely leans on the fact that it’s short but that’s really what helped this one. Most worship services follow a pattern where I get lots of enjoyment in the singing portion but all that enjoyment gets completely cancelled out by the garbage lecture section. With the lesson being short this time, it didn’t have enough time to rid my enjoyment of the songs. I feel sorry though for the people in other locations having to deal with this culmination of everything but it’s inflated. Comparing my uncle’s time to get through the lecture with a regular lecture from my home locale really put things into perspective on how unnecessarily long most of the lectures are. Favorite song: 504 even without the S1",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"I know most of us have ill feelings in and out..but come on, be civil and humane.. RESPECT OTHERS OF THEIR DECISION AND CHOICE... its uncivilized someone will impose his or her thoughts against a person or organization based on their own experience. anyways, you don't tell here your faults or mistakes..meaning you are perfect.. thats sucks..saying is true - "" Misery breeds company"" .. you want company.. got it. hahaha",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,giving thanks to god = giving money to EVM ☺,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"Yup!! and the monitoring of the money giving is what so Toxic in the iglesia Ni Christo. God has no reason to monitor any type of currency, that’s the total misleading, and misinterpreted preaching of the iglesia Ni Christo.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,He is right. I mean being in the INC is a curse in and of itself.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,The iglesia Ni Christo’s misinterpretation of preaching that it’s Gods commandment to give MONEY offerings is why their preaching is Truly Toxic. The luxury lifestyle Eduardo lives is not of Jesus Christ’s nor Gods intentions of a Church of Christ leadership. The Iglesia Ni Christo truly uses the Bible to mislead their members for making money and use’s Gods words for a business type of church. Totally TOXIC and unchristian like….the fact that Jesus Christ’s Gospel is not preached the iglesia Ni Christo is just helping Satan to draw people and their members away from the Gospel of Christ Jesus. Hopefully 🙏🏼 the members of the iglesia Ni Christo will see the truth and the misinterpretation and misleading ways of the Manalo preaching.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,Or when we as a cult support Duterte and Marcos.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,">God's love is totally conditional
I mean, this is literally the INC's selling point lmao",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"Cult Business at it’s Finest
Brainwashing tactics of a Punishing God
Manipulation of the meaning of Thanksgiving
Not one word mentioning the Gospel of Jesus",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"My thoughts after hearing the lesson:
""Maraming Dahilan para tayo umalis sa INC""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"Yup, return it to god by way of depositing to manalo's inc bank accounts.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,imagine returning a gift someone gave you😬,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,">RESPECT OTHERS OF THEIR DECISION AND CHOICE
But the INC itself can't do this lmao. It's literally *obey and never complain* even if these ""complaints"" weren't criticisms of the leadership, but rather just some legitimate questions they happen to be uncomfortable with
>its uncivilized someone will impose his or her thoughts against a person or organization based on their own experience
I mean, aren't you also imposing that the INC isn't a terrible organization, simply because you've never associated negative experiences with them?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"True. Instead of improving and teaching people how to budget money.. Just offer more, no need to budget 🤡",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"Seems like they had a couple of those adult meetings (Buklud I think) where they talk about that sort of thing. But I never listen to those either. My thought is if you are 30 plus years old and don't know how to budget you money, a 10 minute INC meeting isn't going to help much.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"Religion isn't really in charge of that. But i guess INCult is an exception. I mean, they literally have Christian Employees Association (CEA). Think they're supposed to educate the brethren with expense management, employment, etc. Wonder what happened to this organization tho. There was an activity only once and then that's it. poof.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"My mom had to attend the two hour buklod meeting. She also wasn’t paying attention lol. She was on her phone the whole time.
And speaking of budgeting money, while my mom is better than my dad at it, oml the amount of cash that goes to offerings is actually enough to cover a year’s college tuition.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"I remember this. On top of that, they would also have homework activities for binhi and kadiwa members. They stopped that idk why? Now, they’re just saying that binhi and kadiwas have more time than the buklod members so we should lead the propagation bs ☠️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"My wife and I both have jobs. I make significantly more, so I pay all the bills, while she handles the household expenses (groceries, clothes etc...). She knows I won't give a dime to the Manalo enrichment fund, so she also takes care of that as well. Because it all comes out of her check, she doesn't give as much as some do, but definitely more than they deserve.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 21 - Dec 23, 2021)",rlgfbu,2021-12-21,"I hate that just because we allegedly ""have more time"" we are assumed to be willing to lead the propagation bs. I hated this even when I was still a believer. I loved the INCult God (before), and just because I am unable to do certain tasks at certain times doesn't mean I hate him already. ←something I should have known years ago. Too bad I was too gullible to fall for the minister's manipulation.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rlgfbu/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_21_dec_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Just got out from the most important person in the world's 90 minute therapy session.
It appears that Big Ed is not pleased; Big Ed is not happy; actually Big Ed is angry.
For a so-called ""Thanksgiving"" service one would think that the service would reflect on 2021; You know... acknowledge the events, be thankful for the good things, look forward to the future, etc.
But nope. That's not quite the case here. This particular shitshow was pretty much a 50-minute rant from the Executive Minister of the Church of the Church Administration (Eduardo V. Manalo). Eduardo started off with patting himself on the back with some stats about the current achievements of the church since 2009: 4,200+ churches built, 6,200 minions produced, 10,000 more minions coming soon (so basically, he high fived ... himself?! Who does that?!).
This was then followed up by the signature doom and gloom, the world is going to shit spiel. Big Ed talks about disasters conflicts and other unfortunate events ""around the world"". He makes it a point to mention tornadoes in the United States and nothing more. Yes, because nothing bad happens elsewhere but in the US. Not sure if you noticed Eddie, but aside from being a perrenially poor country, the Philippines in 2021 had to continue to deal with COVID19, a volcanic eruption (Taal) and several typoons (one of which was quite recent), also don't forget the usual crime and corruption ;-) You do know of those things... right?
Then comes the meat of the show, ""OFFERING"". No need to beat a dead horse. There was a shout out to the ""offended"", ""to those who try to convince others not to give"", ""to those online, in the tubes of the interwebz - r/exInglesiaNiCristo ?""
Big Ed proceeds on a 30 minute tirade about how ""You should/need/must offer."" No mention of ""giving by your heart's desire"" or that story of poor old widow who only had two coins that equated to half a cent. Just Give, Bitch. Pay up!
You can tell that the most important person in the world seems to be agitated by the elevated tone in his voice when talking about money.
I think what the most important person(clearly not the smartest) in the world is missing here is that the members of the Church of the Church Administration do not have a problem with ""offering"". What they have a problem with is what is Big Ed doing with the offering. For example what is the purpose of the following big ticket purchases:
\-Philippine Arena
\-South Dakota (Ghosttown)
\-Johsonville, Connecticut (Ghosttown)
\-Shoshoni Wyoming (Mushroom farm)
\-Pacifica, California (Horse Ranch)
\-Ladybrand, Africa (Land)
\-Free State, Africa (Land)
\-Petrusburg, Africa (Land)
Also note the Airbus (another dead horse), two helicopters and that sweet sweet lavish lifestyle.
Take all the above in addition to plenty of existing churches which are broken down and in disrepair, some locales rent, some locales share spaces and some locales do not have anything. So it's really hard keep giving when all these facts are brought to light.
Yet all you hear are the various ""weekly offerings"" that need funds - never ending collection of funds.
Also note that a large majority of members are for lack of a better word poor.
So that pretty much sums up this end of year shitshow.
What a waste of 3 hours; but if there's any consolation, it's knowing that I, an ""offended"" am living rent free in the most important person in the world's head.
Thanks Eddie! xoxo",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"lmao it's literally just the Thursday lesson but with more obscure bible versions
**And oh boy EVM just confirmed that abundant offerings are hard-required in the cult. I guess this also explains why the INC's own ""classic"" offering verse is no longer being referenced.**
II Corinthians 9:6-7
Remember this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, **not reluctantly or under compulsion**, for God loves a cheerful giver.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Attended their YETG WS to experience firsthand the bs they spit out. I feel my stomach turning upside down when eddie boy emphasizes that being thankful is not enough but give alongside offerings with it. Eugh. I can't hide my disgust, I'm thankful I had my mask on.
Eddie boy reminded everyone not to listen to persecutors of his cult. I think fatman knows well that the members are slowly waking up to his brainswashing.
-Bragging about numbers
-30 minute long chopped verses why giving thanks to God is not enough but give more $$$$
-INCult still holds strong despite disasters
-other religions having a hard time (really?)
-Ignore the persecutors (nag uusig)
He discuss these things the entire time and little as to why we should thank God. I can not respect this pathetic excuse of a leader. I hope members would wake up one day including my SO. I'll gladly watch the cult's downfall with a glass of brandy.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Tuloy! Count: 35
Our cult leader's demands:
Thank offerings (of course).
Don't believe social media against the church.
Attend WS.
Help in ""God's works"". (Like propagation)
Also, why should I be thankful for his cult's successes? He tells us about how successful his cult is and he expects us to thank God for it and offer money.
I'd be more thankful if his cult falls.
On the good side, ppv is quite short.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Prayers:
Prayer of the officers before worship service: Mentioned EVM
Prayer after singing of hymns: Didn't mention EVM (correct me if Im wrong)
Prayer after delivery of lesson: Mentioned EVM, approximately 2 mins of prayer
Prayer of the officers after worship service: Mentioned EVM
Hymns:
11 - old but new hymn.
Sermon:
- Mentioned natural calamities that happened for the year, of course to prove that the end is near
- Boasting the number of congregations built and number of ministers ordained
- Blatantly said that it is not enough to say thanks to the Lord. We SHOULD offer as well. As far as I can remember, they used book of Psalms to justify it.
- Do not listen to those who criticize our thanksgiving / offerings. Do not believe on what you read / see in social media / internet.
Sermon length: 45-50 minutes",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"(Belated) Season’s greetings everyone! Because of my late chime-in to this thread, I will mainly touch bases that haven’t already been covered.
**Deadly Themes**
* Detractors
* Offerings
* mention of Other Religions are Wrong
* brief mention of Social Media against the Church
**Verses (with Intervening Tuloys/Continues)**
* Psalm 107:1-2 (Passion Translation) (4 tuloys/continues shouted here)
* Psalm 107:1-2 (Re-read in Holman Christian Standard) (2 tuloys)
* Ps 7:17 (1)
* Rom 8:28 (4)
* Ps 9:1, 9, 10, 2 (7)
* I Cor. 15:57 (No tuloys—instead we get a tyrant’s tangent!)
* Ps 107:1, 22 (2 tuloys)
* Ps 50:23, 14 (5)
* Col 3:15-16 (3)
* Col 1:12, 23 (4)
* Heb 12:28 (2)
* I Cor 15:57-58 (2)
* Isa 33:2 (2)
**Prayers**
* Officers’ Prayer: ~4.5min
* Minister spends 34 seconds praying to Christ, or about 12.59% of the prayer.
* Minister spends 54 seconds praying for Manalo, or about 20% of the prayer.
* Opening Prayer: ~6m
* I failed to get the specific breakdown of this prayer.
* Closing Prayer: ~9.5m
* Christ gets roughly a minute (which just might be a record high time-wise, but percentage-wise is only 10.53%).
* Manalo gets roughly 1:20, or about 14.03% of the prayer. Preacher guy prays for EVM, his wife, his children, and his grandchildren—but what about his siblings and mother??
* Officers’ Prayer: ~1:50
* Christ gets about 13s (11.82%), but I failed to catch how much time Manalo gets.
**Just for Fun!**
* Tuloy Tally: 38 (u/NPCmasqueraiders691 tallied 35)
**Addenda**
* Total PPV: 1h34m
* Sermon: 52m
* Roughly a “tuloy” every 1m22s (using my Tuloy Tally) or 1m29s (using u/NPCmasqueraiders691’s Tuloy Tally)
* Prayers: 21m50s total",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,Fk I dread sitting in to watch this EVM bitch talk for 2 hours,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Oh my, pasalamat plus webex?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Seriously though, I pity that reading guy. He was always interrupted by EVM.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Putang ina webex ang tagal tuloy, nakakatawa lang pasasalamat tas nawawalan ng internet yung kapilya tas ang malupit naki hotspot nalang na kitang kita sa screen oh well kita kits nalang sa banal na hapunan bahala na ulet mga pinsan ko sa tarheta ko lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Had a week long devotional prayer for urong.
I'm ready to contribute to the urong cause. Are you?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"I was actually outside the Church because I was in a small locale and it filled up really quickly. I actually didn’t expect this to be the PPV u/KadPresChoirSecTSV was saying in the open discussion thread. Me experiencing the TG outside is actually a blessing to me because I got to watch a sunrise instead of having to listen or care. Also INC is literally doing that stupid “I’m not like other girls” garbage but with religions. |:(. Lastly is the obligatory best song that I mention in these things. This TG marked the end of my 3 week vacation at anothe locale and I feel like 11 helped me reflect on the fun memories I had there the best (without the lyrics obviously). ALSO PLEASE STOP REPEATING SONGS FROM LAST YEAR. I just found out the missing offering song of this TG because my aunt already gave me the January lineups and it’s 359 which guess what? Just like 433 in August, was also sung last year December.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"I missed most of yesterdays snooze fest because I wasn't listening. But towards the end, I did start listening because I was hoping it was over. Seemed like they spent 10 minutes explaining what they should pray for before actually praying. That is kind of funny actually. Seems like the big man ran out of gibberish to talk about and decided to just tell what we would pray for before actually doing the prayer. Essentially ensuring he spent a whole hour and a half putting us to sleep.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Thoughts
Hymn 349, I heard this at Philippine Arena last 2015
Hymn 11, new song
Processional Hymn, inc really compose cringe semi-tones
Recessional Hymn, fine and mellow melody, bad lyrics
Merry Christmas!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"I remembered EVM said that participating thanks giving with offering has no exceptions.
I doubt it",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,And here we go,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,Hope our sister is doing well has been quiet last few days anyway enjoy the holidays everyone,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,Ok so I just asked my mom about how the chèque works on envelope offerings bc I was curious why and how would she donate a total of 6 digit value on our church and she said that it's the total of her lagak throughout the year and she didn't had to donate anything which is a BIG relief for me😀😀 idk about the others any thoughts???,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,Nope. Bacon and black pudding sandwiches. Bucks Fizz. Happy Christmas everyone including Fatboy Eddy and all his fat family. ( Fat on wealth I mean ),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,Thanksgiving special,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,Notice he had a huge pause when he mentioned that no one is exempt from giving offering to God (had to catch himself in that lie),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,3 hours? What?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"WoW!!! Amazingly it’s just the same ol- brainwashing tactics that they use on its members to offer money to the Manalo pockets. Nothing of Jesus Christ’s Gospel especially his birth (I’m not talking about Christmas, I’m recognizing Jesus Christ’s birth) Eduardo boasting about accomplishments of buildings which God doesn’t care of because it’s earthly. Jesus Christ truly knows that the Iglesia Ni Christo goals are of only money and not of his Gospel.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,""" Just Give, Bitch. Pay up!""
Eddie Boy is acting like the Pimp Daddy and treating the members like money HOE B#$ches.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,Motivational speaking is not EVM's forte I guess.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"What does the INC actually say if we were to ask them about the ""not reluctantly or under compulsion"" part?
Also during the baptism screening of the guy I told yall about, he was asked ""how do u offer your offerings to God?"" he answered ""by heart"" and he was corrected by the minister screening and corrected him, saying ""no, you offer by the amount of your blessing""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,This will have to be one of their most favorite verses since EVM took over.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Ohh,maybe that’s why our minister told us that offerings is based on salary. 🤔",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Do not read sub reddit the ex-inc, I hope they mentioned it",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Your breakdown of INCult prayers is truly an objective eye opener. Hopefully readers/lurkers who are still on the fence can see how INCult is really promoting/elevating the Manalo's cause more than Jesus.
BTW The whole book of Colossians is only 4 chapters long and can be read/audioplayed in about 20 mins. It is a complete sermon of the GOSPEL by itself that even Paul in Chapter 4 advocated to have the letter be read to the church in Laodicea.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"out of topic, but what is with ""Tuloy"" ????",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Yes.
Lesson is just the same as mid week ws but with EVM saying tuloy in the process.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Part of me wonders if there will come a day when the reader snaps and throws a bible at EVM and/or just starts shouting at him. If so (fat chance, I know), I don’t think I’d be able to control my laughter!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"I imagine he gets paid fairly well though, for doing almost nothing.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,Eto ba yung habang kumakanta mga mang aawit pagkatapos ng pagsamba? Tangina ang pangit pala ng tunog nila pag wala organ/pre-recorded singing. Mas magaling pa kumanta mga barkada ko pag lasing kahit wala instruments/videoke.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,Good on you for not listening! I was pretending to have a really long prayer but I was actually just sleeping 😂😂😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,Tuloy!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"I think its the same for me. No way we can give 4 digits in dollars. Still, looking at that price, If we used that for my college fees instead, my future is pretty much secured already...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Well, his daughters and son are all physically fat, so...🤷♂️
You're welcome, Manalos, i guess...🤔",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,Yeah. Eddie needs to be careful. Being stressed leads to making mistakes.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"The shitshow ran for 60+ minutes.
Additionally, we lemmings were required to be seated 30 minutes before the start of the service, so that we can be held hostage for the free labors' (officers') prayer pre and post shitshow.
I also included my drive time for around 45 minutes both ways.
The burden of having to hear the most important person in the world's rant cost me 3 hours of my day.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"they didn't and wouldn't. Because they know if they did, there will be A LOT of curious ones that will be looking at this sub and find out the truth. They would ask the minister's about our evidences agaisn't them, and there is NO WAY they can counter our evidences.
Telling them not to believe ""social media"" is the only way for them to say it, without the members knowing where to get evidences.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,Tagalog for “Continue”,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,omg this😭🙌,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"I like your imaginative mind.
Maybe at the same time even a choir member taking off her robes then the teleprompter messing some words blasted to everyone!
That would be the day.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Fwiw, I never listen. I have a hard time focusing for long periods of time anyway. Throw in the fact that these lessons are highly repetitive, and it's nearly impossible for me to focus on what they are saying.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,Ow. In less than a hour I'll attend my pasalamat here in the Philippines. So good luck to me. Haha,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"I don’t blame you on that. Just by the title of their lessons you can already tell the rest of its contents. It’s never worth it to listen. It always amuses me how the lessons are repetitive, do they think members are stupid? 🙄",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 24 - Dec 27, 2021)",rnnz1j,2021-12-24,"Enjoy! Don't forget to empty your envelope before paying for the show.
Otherwise you get robbed of both your time *and* money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rnnz1j/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_24_dec_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 28 - Dec 30, 2021)",rqhq3j,2021-12-28,"Nothing like ""end of times"" sermon going into year 2022. INCult really knows how to give folks hopefulness for the coming new year.
Attending INCult WS is a TOTAL WASTE of TIME, MONEY and EFFORT.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rqhq3j/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_28_dec_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 28 - Dec 30, 2021)",rqhq3j,2021-12-28,Intro about end of times is upon us. Why church members shouldn't worry becaause they are the chosen ones. So ignore your current problems and focus on the prize. Lol same shitty uninspiring lesson when theyre done telling members to offer/propagate more.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rqhq3j/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_28_dec_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 28 - Dec 30, 2021)",rqhq3j,2021-12-28,"Again with ""the world is so bad these days the day of judgement is near"" bullshit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rqhq3j/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_28_dec_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 28 - Dec 30, 2021)",rqhq3j,2021-12-28,These Types of preaching are all repetitive TACTICS that the iglesia Ni Christo uses to brainwash their members. The brainwashing conditioning of their misinterpretation of the Bible truly is imbedded in the members thoughts.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rqhq3j/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_28_dec_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 28 - Dec 30, 2021)",rqhq3j,2021-12-28,"Title: Ang magtatagumpay sa lahat ng mga mangyayari sa mundo upang makapagtamo ng kaligtasan
Same recycled lesson. Mentioned July 27, 1914 as the start of world war 1.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rqhq3j/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_28_dec_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 28 - Dec 30, 2021)",rqhq3j,2021-12-28,"**Sermon**
* ""The one who will overcome all that happens in the world in order to attain salvation"" (translation of u/VariationItchy8630's comment)
* Deadly Themes Mentioned
* The Administration (mentioned in intro)
* Intensive Propagation (plug of upcoming EVMs/Bible studies)
* Isa. 13: 7-8, 11, 6
* Isa. 44:8
* Ps. 29:11
* Isa. 62:11-12
* I Pet. 4:19 (Propagation mentioned after this verse)
* Ps. 42:9-11
* II Cor. 6:4-6
* Isa. 30:20-21, 18
* II Cor. 4:18
* Ps. 57:1-3
* Ps. 37:34
* Translations mentioned: 0
**Hymns**
* 196 (""Thank You, Father"")
* First half is about one's calling into the INC
* 322 (""You Are My Joy"")
* 484 (""For Perfection Strive—Oh, Renew Our Lives"")
* lecture/obedience hymn
* [457 (""Let God Take Charge of Your Life"")](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FfmenNphLc)
* lecture/obedience hymn
* 472 (""I Am Hoping in the Home You Are Creating"")
* obedience hymn
* 496 (""In Studying God's Word"")
* lecture/obedience showtune
* 297 (""Oh, Let's Praise the Lord, Our God"")
* lect—Do I even need to say it?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rqhq3j/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_28_dec_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 28 - Dec 30, 2021)",rqhq3j,2021-12-28,"I'm back from my vacation and that means I'm back to suffering with never ending lectures. One thing I did notice though is that while they still played the video, the choir actually stood up during the intro instead of sitting down the entire song. Weirdly though, they stand up near the end of the intro instead of as soon as the intro starts. I want to talk about the lineup though because I feel like 317 should've been here because of their mention of prophecy and WW1. Also apparently the start of a sucky cult is more important than a freaking world war. Also, all the songs are new and I want to talk about this because honestly now TGs don't feel exciting to me anymore. They used to be the only times where a new hymn gets sung but now that there are only 3 hymns per lineup, uses older songs, and newer songs are sung in regular services, TGs have now become just inflated WSs. I know that WSs are more than just the songs but to me it's the only part that matters considering how the lessons will always be garbage. That's enough ranting about TGs the best song for me here is 472 (grown on me #7!).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rqhq3j/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_28_dec_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 28 - Dec 30, 2021)",rqhq3j,2021-12-28,"If ""the world is bad"", things are worse in the INCult.
I'm sure people outside the cult aren't getting robbed of time and money twice a week; every week; 52 weeks a year. Non-stop.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rqhq3j/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_28_dec_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 28 - Dec 30, 2021)",rqhq3j,2021-12-28,July 27 1914 isn't even the start of WWI its July 28😭 I giggled in the middle of the worship service when he said that good thing no one noticed. They literally had one job to fake a prophecy😭😭😭,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rqhq3j/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_28_dec_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 28 - Dec 30, 2021)",rqhq3j,2021-12-28,Good thing we still have our face mask. I also smirked when the minister said that lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rqhq3j/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_28_dec_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Dec 28 - Dec 30, 2021)",rqhq3j,2021-12-28,"INC will never learn. Not to mention they still think that ends of the earth means ""mga wakas ng lupa"".
Basically this world has multiple endings to them.
Glad I avoided F2F this WS.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rqhq3j/midweek_worship_service_examination_dec_28_dec_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,"Go donate money to charity
Go buy your neighbor coffee
Give money to Doctors without Borders
Help local refugees in their new home
Walk the dogs at your local rescue
Read to a kid after school
All of these are more worthwhile activities than buying lazy Eduardo an Airbus and lazy Boy Hotdog Air Jordans",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,Happy New Year = setting aside. Same old broken record.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,"I just want to commend all the contributions in documenting the INCult brainwashing sessions disguised as worship services. There is now a permanent easy to access archive that shows how repetitive the sermons are and how it revolves the same brainwashing themes that enslaves its members.
I believe we now, we have at least 2-3 years' worth of INCult brainwashing session outlines.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,"The lesson here is so generic but there is one thing interesting. Right at the beginning, they say that in honor of Erano G. Manalo, the entire month will be about his teachings. I’ve never known Erano personally but I feel like this month will not be good. Nothing else to say. Best song: 142/238",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,"Same old same old, pagsamba lagak handog etc. One interesting is the monitoring chart para ma check mo kung nakapag lagak ka o hindi. Mukang mababa ang nakuha nung nakaraang pasasalamat ah",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,Tweety bird from west: A district minister preaching “Damn he just said in preaching “youre going to make me angry” - wow hahahaha its too obvious now is it 😩😂. See PURE preaching is not base on anger but LOVE thats why these INC false preachers are called hired pastors! I just read on the news what the doctors worry now is when the original covid strains got mixed with the various new variant like delta or omicron then they don’t know what that will produce when it comes to its deadly effecs so we are probably looking at a permanent webex services - to bad for building more houses of worship for EVMs glory!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,"* Philip 4:3
* Eph 4:16 (?)
* Matt 24:12
* Matt 24:13
* Heb 10:25-27
* I Tim 6:18-19
* Ps 50:22-23
* II Thess 1:4-5
* Matt 5:10-12
* Col 1:23
* Col 1:5
* Heb 10:38-39
* Philip 3:8-9
* O££€ring$ & Intensive Propagation mentioned numerous times
* Brief mention of Don’t Leave the INC & The Administration
* 0 translations mentioned
* Lesson outlined by ~~FYM~~ EGM (EDIT)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,"3rd BS missed over Christmas and New Year. Need a break from ""Give us your money""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,"They’re also saying the judgment day is near,but still asking for money? 🥴",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,"Happy new year too, this cult must go down!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,Our year end prayer/lecture was about money and propagation.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,"Another yearly REPETITIVE Cult Service Session!!!! No preaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The preaching was focused on Offerings (money) to the 3 different types of offerings that the INC preaching manipulates. Brainwashing and CONDITIONING the INC members minds of a God that loves MONEY. The next TOXIC IGLESIA Ni Christo subject is gonna be the prophecy of Felix Manalo, the whole “ends of the Earth” manipulation. The minister spoke of LOVE which was shockingly new, but the LoVE was not of the unconditional love of Jesus Christ, that he has for all people.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,I think they're sending up red flags that finances on the home front are not all that stable.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,"Well said 👍 INCult and their lessons are money centered. Forget Jesus Christ, God and the Holy Spirit because they don't count in the scheme of things. It's all about EVM and how best to make him smile by never ever complaining. Never ever leaving the cult and always have cash ready on hand because according to them it's all about paying your way to heaven.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,"I agree. They would never admit it, but I get the distinct impression donations have taken a hit since the 2015 scandal, and especially in the last two years with the pandemic.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Dec 31 - Jan 03, 2022)",rsvol1,2021-12-31,"The membership is not keeping up with the company optic of stucco renovation. Lo and behold, stucco us the cheapest way to stylize a chapel.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rsvol1/weekend_worship_service_examination_dec_31_jan_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,"Wow very enlightening! I love being told to ""willingly"" give my money away to the church against my will! I love being told to find converts and participate in church activites or be classified as ""lazy"" and not be saved which means eternal punishment!
Such kindness from EVM and God! /s
",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,"Hmmmh. I wonder what the lesson is. Let me guess. OFFERING, HOLD ON TO YOUR MEMBERSHIP.
Congratulations to those who are not attending INCult midweek brainwashing session.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,Lmfao I just finished reading the lesson for my dad because he's old and reads slow and I can't help but curse what I'm reading mid-reading. I can't believe the second lesson of the year already tells you to not forget your offerings. What a scam.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,Offerings 🙄 if someone has the verses.. pls post it here. Really want to find out which verses they twisted to suit their agenda,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,"* ""O££€ring$"", part ten million
* Brief mention of Detractors, Intensive Propagation
* Outlined by EGM
* Ps 119:2
* Ps 119:3, 1
* Ps 34:15
* Ps 37:28
* Eph 6:6
* Isa 1:19
* Ps 40:8
* Neh 12:43
* 2 Cor 9:7-8
* Heb 6:11-12
* 1 Cor 15:58
* Mt 25:26-30
* Ps 42:1-2
* Rom 12:1
* Jer 29:11-12",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,"Will be logged on to WebEx but paying no interest whatsover.
Actually found out a way to play GTA V on the PS4 through my Computer !!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,"Bless god for making me sick for the past few days (being sick ain’t good but I at least didn’t have to go to the church). I just attended the HWS instead. Because I’ve been sick, I had to isolate myself so I was in a completely different room separated from my parents. Because of that, I turned off my camera and mic and just went to Twitter to pass the time. The best INC worship services are the ones that are either really short or at least give me something else to do to pass the time (like watching the sunrise outside the church) and this was both of those things. The best song here is 22. I normally don’t count officer songs (probably because most of them are really boring) but I like 22 more than the entire lineup so best song it is.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,"offer not only money, but also your talents and services to the church.
no.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,the YET must not have been enough,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,Nehemiah 12:43 (Magandang Balita) for the offerings/scam for this one,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,"In the Bible God says “Praises of offerings”, the Iglesia Ni Christo twisted, and misinterpreted the word “Praises”, and use it as Money. That manipulation truly shows that the iglesia Ni Christo is not of Jesus Christ’s Gospel. God does not need money!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,"i highly doubt this was outlined by EGM, its all the same shit still",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,"I got expelled a year ago, but back in 2020, I would play during Webex.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,">offer not only money, but also your talents and services to the church.
Church of Grift",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,"Here is how INC comes up with their lesson outlines...
1. Google search ""bible verses + offerings"" or ""bible verses + donation"" or ""bible verses + money"" This is their ""See, it's in the bible if you read this obscure version...""
2. Tie in these verses about Macedonia and Achaia giving joyfully and even ""*more than they could*"" afford even though they were in extreme poverty.
3. Hand wave and show all the ""wonderful"" things the church is doing in Africa, how many worship buildings are being dedicated every year. Then say, ""No other church out there is doing what we're doing"" (that's because you make millions every worship service.)
4. Insert meme of ""we are now asking you again for your voluntary contributions."" with the ""*to be rich in good works, to be generous in giving and ready to share.*"" verse.
5. End with: Praise the church administration for this right!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 04 - Jan 06, 2022)",rvwax2,2022-01-04,"They could’ve taken what was originally outlined by EGM and altered it beyond recognition, which would explain the mention of detractors & propagation",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rvwax2/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_04_jan_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"If you can't think for yourself, you are not free.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"Read the HWS lesson today for my mom, I literally laughed in the middle of reading because it's just a lesson about how the INC is the only one doing the right type of Worship to God also it's just another lesson to attack the Catholic Church.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"News: Upcoming PPV (pay per view) next weekend. Because of the Covid surge, some households can avail of this EVM promo at home. Prepare for lengthy prayers asking God to protect EVM and an hour long sermon. 😴",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,Can someone confirm that Philippines will have different lessons in the coming months because of May 2022 election? Do they also teach the unity vote in other countries?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,First time in UK we had a non-Filipino minister. Judging by his name he was Polish.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"It's like the lesson was trying to tell me to leave INC at first. Saying that we should really check if our worship service really is the true worship service to god and all and not a false one.
Then it proceeds to encourage blind obedience again. (Church Administration was mentioned cause why not?)
Felt like shit afterwards...as usual.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"* Other Religions Are Wrong
* Outlined by EGM
* Matt 15:9
* Col 2:22-23
* Ezek 33:31
* Matt 6:9-10
* John 4:23-24
* John 17:17
* Rom 10:2-3
* 1 John 2:3
* 1 John 2:4
* 1 John 5:3
* James 2:10
* Ps 119:126, 128
* Matt 5:19
* 1 John 3:22, 24
* Is 65:12-13
* John 8:29",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"HWS again. That means more Twitter and Pokemon SwSh. Payed attention even less. But screw the WS let’s talk about how MEGALOVANIA GOT PLAYED IN FRONT OF THE POPE. That is glorious and despite being a big fanboy of the hymns, man I wish Megalovania was part of the lineup. Also PPV next week and I have to say, is there a way to like get the files for the PPV? I don’t have any malicious intent I just want to download more hymns because I know newer hymns will get sung. Favorite hymn: 26. Feel good songs are my favorite kinds that they put out and this is one of them. Just nice and simple. Also 26’s old melody isn’t forever gone because it’s now CWS 82.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"Prepare for another screaming fits of AMA, stay inside the church, and offerings, offerings, and offerings. Same shit as always but different toilets (aka days) 🙄🙄",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,Please don’t let the hymns be repeats that’s all I’m begging for. I’ve grown to tolerate never-ending lectures just don’t make the hymns be from an 11 month radius. Sing something uncommon and NOT sing 394 / 470 for the 10 Millionth time.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"I might actually be looking forward to this particular shitshow; given that this is the first pay per view since the most important person in the world's end of year payday.
From the last one, he seemed agitated; pressing on detractors and money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,Noooooo 😭,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"They don’t teach the Unity vote here in America. If they did, they probably wouldn’t be able to reach the same level of compliance they do in the Philippines. Telling an American, Liberal inc to vote for a Republican (and vice versa) in this day and age would not work here. Manalo is smart enough to know that. It’d probably end up in even more members leaving/at least questioning their faith. Only those who blindly follow would obey.
More and more of the younger inc are going to colleges and schools that are encouraging us to question our beliefs. Younger people already question the government and our society openly in America. In secret they also question the church. That’s why the church tells us to not to protest (even during blm) since it would inspire this type of nonconformist, disobedient thinking that they can’t have in the church.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"been in the US since 2009, never heard of unity voting lesson in WS or BS not even during election year, however they do ask the members who are registered to vote in the philippines to see the minister (this is when its election time in the philippines) ☺",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"They do not teach the part of Lesson 25 ""Unity"" that refers to unity in voting, in western countries. [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-0hYWQ7i8AkT-P4FTm4jO8r8AeLANunZ/view](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-0hYWQ7i8AkT-P4FTm4jO8r8AeLANunZ/view)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"If ever they start teaching about that ""unity voting"" here in Ph. I'll let you know.
I want to see for myself what they teach outside of Ph while they ""teach"" us this block voting BS again.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,We have those kind too once in a blue moon here in the US. Nothing to get excited about because they’re spouting out the same boring ass messages.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"How can the iglesia Ni Christo ministry say the other religions are wrong when they don’t even preach our savior Jesus Christ’s Gospel. Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life!!! Not the man made False prophecy of Felix Manalo. Iglesia Ni Christo members are truly brainwashed, they don’t see the misinterpretation of words and controlling tactics that the INC ministry teaches to their ministers.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"Don't forget ""Submit to the Church Administration"", INC's favorite motto.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"13
96
483
Chapel dedication processional hymns
469",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"Think of 394/470, don't worry as something extremely common (50) is happening during the upcoming midweek.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"You may be right to an extent, but the reason they don't teach block voting in the US is simple. If they tell people who to vote for, they risk losing their tax exempt status.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,Thanks for sharing. I've been in Canada for 10 years and the only time 'unity' was a theme was during the 2015 scandals.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"Can you also confirm if unity voting is part of the doctrinal lesson in the US?
What i know is that their are more lessons for US based bible students compared to PI based because they have to add lessons related to Protestantism.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,Thanks for sharing this!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,Thanks 😊👍,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"This is also what Jews and Muslims would say:
""Other religions are wrong.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"Second favorite.
Favorite is give us your money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,I really like 483 and 469 but wtf they literally reused the lineup from last week,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"god above all, i meant IRS 🙊🙈🙉",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"The Fundamental Beliefs of the Iglesia Ni Cristo [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-0hYWQ7i8AkT-P4FTm4jO8r8AeLANunZ/view](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-0hYWQ7i8AkT-P4FTm4jO8r8AeLANunZ/view) is the same the world over. THE reason that it is not made available to members is because some parts of it are not appropriate for some parts of the world. For example, the part of Lesson 25, ""Unity"" that talks about unity in voting cannot be taught in the west, since it violates democratic rights.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"the unity lesson (lesson 25) is being taught here but they never mention the voting part of it (pages 129-130)
there are 27 lessons here plus the summary while in PI its 25 lessons plus the summary, if you can get a copy of the form 3-10 PI version we can compare, i have the 3-10 version here",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"We are not talking about Jews and Muslims, we are talking about The iglesia Ni Christo CULT! You should go and make another forum about your thoughts about other Religions.
The iglesia Ni Christo makes a prophecy out of misinterpreting the words “ends of the earth”, from the Bible and preaching it to brainwash their members. The fact that iglesia Ni Christo also preaches love your membership is false and brainwashing. The Iglesia Ni Christo also renaming “the last supper” to “Holy Supper” for another special offerings to gain money is Brainwashing. The iglesia Ni Christo has a attendance program that each member flips over a card like a Time sheet, and the gender’s are segregated, truly this tactic of control is Brainwashing its members (no free will) The “one with the Administration” is totally TOXIC and Brainwashing. The sake of salvation is through the Church Administration is Brainwashing…….there are so many Toxic preaching in the iglesia Ni Christo that it’s members are totally brainwashed and that’s why this Subreddit was truly created. I really do like writing about the iglesia Ni Christo’s brainwashing tactics and misinterpreted false preaching of the Bible.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07, 469 EVM version has a descant. Can you record it for me lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"Yes it's illegal here in the US. If INCULT starts preaching or instruct members to vote a certain politician (thereby withholding their freedom of choice), please report them to IRS (Internal Revenue Service):
Using form 13909, and any supporting documentation, can be submitted in a variety of ways: mail to irs eo classification, mail code 4910dal, 1100 Commerce St., Dallas, TX 75242-1198 Fax to 214-413-5415, or email to eoclass@irs.gov. the irs takes all complaints seriously and scrutinizes all referrals.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,yes they use the same fundamentals but they just dont mention the voting part ☺,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,thanks. but sorry i dont have copy either of tje PI version,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,Mongoloids are Mongoloids,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 07 - Jan 10, 2022)",ry9atd,2022-01-07,"It's funny, actually, because the INC BY-LAWS here in Australia, refer to it as ""Harmony"". ""Section 1. Church Harmony—The Church shall maintain harmony among its members as part of the doctrine of the Church. Pursuant to this, no member shall bring legal suit, of whatever nature, against another member. There is NO MENTION in the By Laws of unity or ""harmony"" in voting.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ry9atd/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_07_jan_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,Title: Ang dahilan kung bakit may mga taong hindi makita ang kabutihang naidudulot ng pagsunod sa mga utos ng Diyos,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,"I already attended service for midweek. Why does the first verse talk about god not needing gold and silver then the following verses talk about us giving offering for our salvation? I couldn’t listen fully to the minister bc I was staring straight at his eyes and when he looked my way I can tell he’s not looking at me but above my head. It was fun to watch choir members falling asleep behind him too. Can we all agree that everybody’s listened to these lessons and we are getting tired of the same thing every service? For me who’s only attending for a month and a half, I’m already noticing the repetitive lessons.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,"The worship service I listened to today was truly a repetitive preaching for conditioning the members of the iglesia Ni Christo. They spoke of……
1. Money offerings as a commandment of God
2. Another Special offerings again!!!
3. Being a member and loving a Duty
4. The Administration is Salvation
5. Attending worship services
There are more stuff that this minister spoke of that caught my attention but I just wondered off in my head because it was so disgusting to listen to the brainwashing. The thing that is once again not preached is Jesus Christ’s Gospel. They say Jesus Christ’s name but never preach his Love and Grace that a Christian person should truly recognize. They rather focus on preaching “Special offerings”, attending the worship services, and Preaching false doctrine’s of a Loving Manalo Administration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,"* Obedience to God’s Will
* Possible Outlier?
* Ps 119:72
* Ps 19:8
* Ps 19:10-11
* John 5:24
* James 1:22
* James 1:25
* Zech 7:11-12
* Heb 3:13
* Matt 4:3
* Matt 4:8-9
* Matt 4:4
* Matt 4:10
* Matt 4:6
* Mention of Matt 4:7
* Ps 27:13
* Ps 27:14
* Rom 12:2
* James 1:2-3
* James 1:4
* James 1:12
**Stray Thoughts/Observations**
* Do some of these ministers/workers (think they) get paid by the word or hour? Such preachers never seem to shut up!
* I love how the mention of Matt 4:7 renders the shuffling of the Matt 4 verses completely useless. Apparently reading them one after another in order is too mainstream in this “church.”
* Does anyone else’s minister do fake endings? Or is it just my region? Just end the sermon already!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,"Another ""Worldwide Special Offering"" for the previous PH typhoon!
What's the use of this ""Aid to humanity"" offering if every calamity requires a new ""Special offering""?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,Summary of the lesson: OBEY!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,"Absolutely loved the part where they mentioned how they tried to deceive Jesus by trying to use twisted scriptures, but he was knowledgeable and wouldn't fall for it. In my head, I was thinking that it sounds a lot like the INC and twisting verses.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,Ultimately disappointing. They no longer send the full hymn videos to the ministers which means I won't be able to download anything until Jan 24 with 479. Talk about a bummer. Great I lost the one thing I actively wait for that comes from the INC. I could not care less about this WS (222 was nice though). I've now stopped caring. I already forgot the lesson and the WS just happened yesterday. Whatever the best song is 50. As a hymn it's bottom of the barrel but honestly it's just a fun time. I enjoyed it a lot. I'm getting concerned that they haven't been sending our family PPV credentials. I really wanted to screen record 483 and 469 (469 apparently has a descant in the EVM version so that would be interesting to see).,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,akala ko anong kabutihang naidudulot ng pagsunod sa mga utos ng administration 🤑🤑🤑,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,Title: The reason why some people do not see the good that comes from keeping God's commandments,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,"For moral standards, OT's 10 commandents is good enough for bible believers. Creating own version of 10 commandments? Definitely agenda filled.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,"This is the MAJOR reason why they will NEVER show worship service for public viewings, not even in NET25 live (unlike other religions who have nothing to hide or fear), because of too much stressing on offerings etc will make non-inc off if they will notice the repetitive lessons (acts 20:28) as way of mind conditioning for submission.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,INC messages and sermons never changed. Always the same.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,"Damn, that's one strong ass typhoon.
How many ""special offerings"" does the world need to give?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,AND NEVER COMPLAIN!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,"Imagine members from the whole world giving offerings for the typhoon victims and the victims just getting a loot bag of food that won't even last a few days.
Scam.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,Don't forget: IT IS YOUR DUTY TO OFFER,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 11 - Jan 13, 2022)",s1euq5,2022-01-11,50 ..... yawnnnnnn!!!!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s1euq5/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_11_jan_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,"**Foreword**
As usual with my PPV write-ups, I had too much fun writing this. I formatted (or tried to format) my write-up so that anything in parentheses and/or italics can be skipped over and the overall meaning would remain.
**Overview**
* Topic: obedience to God's word *(what a surprise...)*
* Deadly Themes:
* Don't Leave the INC (interspersed throughout the sermon)
* Intensive Propagation (brief mention)
* The Administration (mentioned near the end)
**Verses**
* Ps 29:11 Amplified; Unlocked Dynamic Bible
* Rom 8:28
* 1 John 5:3 (mentioned only)
* Is 30:18
* Rom 12:12 Last Days Bible; UDB
* Gal 6:9
* Col 1:10 Amp.
* Intensive Propagation mentioned
* Ps 62:5 Contemporary English; UDB; Living Bible
* Is 48:18 Expanded; UDB
* Is 54:10
* Rom 15:13
* The Administration mentioned *(more specifically, this verse supposedly outlines their ""prayers"")*
**Prayers & Approx. Breakdowns**
* Officers' Opening Prayer - 4:50
* Time spent praying to Christ - :32 (11.0%)
* Time spent praying for Manalo/his helpers/his family/etc. - 1:11 (24.5%)
* Opening Prayer - 4:06
* Christ - :19 (7.7%)
* Manalo - :20 (8.1%)
* *(Close but no cigar...)*
* Closing Prayer - 8:51
* Christ - :30 (5.6%)
* Manalo - 1:25 (16.0%)
* *(I know it's not as long as some previous closing prayers lasted, but whose idea was it to lead a closing prayer more than 2x as long as the opening prayer? Are these ministers secretly having some sort of contest?)*
* Officers' Closing Prayer - 2:15
* Christ - :19 (14.1%)
* Manalo - :27 (20%)
* Total - 20:02
* Christ - 1:40 (8.3%)
* Manalo - 3:23 (16.9% — *Surprise! /s More than 2x as much as Christ!*)
**Just for Fun!/Other Metrics & Observations**
* Tuloy Tally/Continue Count - 31 *(I* ***swear*** *during the reading of Col 1:10, the reader himself also said it in the Tagalog/Filipino streaming. If that's true and my tally is correct, the number could be 32)*
* *(Hmm, seems much lower than in previous PPVs, possibly because I heard EVM say, ""Ulit!"" \[""Again!""\] at least 10 or 12 times)*
* *(6 of these ""Tuloys!"" occurred during the reading of Col 1:10 \[7 if the reader himself saying it counts\])*
* Sermon Length - 55m
* *NOTE: Does not include the text cards displayed before the before text hymn.*
* Total PPV Length: 1h34m *(or about 1:33:59 longer than I would've hoped!)*
* Tuloy Density - 1 per 1:46 (if 31), 1 per 1:43 (if 32)
* *(At one point in the sermon, the reader sounded like he was saying, ""Gunter Gleiben Glauchen Globen,"" from the beginning of Def Leppard's ""Rock of Ages."")*
* *(I'm sure the administration's true prayers are: ""Father...please keep...everyone trapped in this place...make them give us all their money...and all their time...so we may become rich, O Father..."" \[10 minutes later\] ""O Father...please bless...above all...our dear beloved leader..."" \[you already know how this part goes, so I won't go any further...\])*
* *(Apparently \[per EVM\] being inactive in the INC is somehow worse than having COVID.)*
EDIT: Format",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,"Been checking out this subreddit due to my ongoing doubts for INC. I think the most frustrating thing of today’s worship service was how blatant the manipulation is. They literally just said that not attending the worship service is evil and bad. Also, there was a moment where EVM talked about how not attending the church is worse than having COVID, which is nonsense.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,"PPV again and EVM used some verses from Amplified Bible. Guess what? Acts 20:28 in Amplified version will blow your mind!
28 Take care and be on guard for yourselves and for the whole flock over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you as overseers, to shepherd (tend, feed, guide) the church of God which He bought with His own blood.
Does this mean he agree that Jesus is GOD????",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,"This is my first time really cuss here, but putangina.
""Masama malungkot.""
""Masama mapagod.""
""Masama manghina.""
Tapos sa dulo may simpatya nalalaman. Oo, hindi mabuti maging laging ganoon na lang pero hindi rin makabubuti ang repressed emotions. Mas mahirap na kontrolin 'yun. Nandoon na ako, 'e. Tapos unhealthy positivity ituturo nila? Ano 'yun untouchable members? Puwede naman nilang sabihing, ""Hindi maganda ang *laging* ____________"" kaysa sa isa. Kasi kapag sinabi 'yung isa, ang lalabas niyan masama na siya even in small dosage kaya iiwasan tuloy.
Putangina na.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,"Title for the lecture today is:
Ang dahilan kung bakit hindi natatamo ng iba ang kahalagahan ng mga itinurong salita ng Diyos.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,"PPV here in UK
Too tired to even bother with it today",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,"Used netcut to throttle the bandwidth to prevent myself from watching eddong talk. It worked, my dad did a PNS instead. Shorter and less boring, but still didn't listen.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,"Finally I got to experience 483 in a WS and yeah I like it. 469 has a cool descant, the processionals are pretty fun and are way better than the ones from the October PPV. 438 is cool as always, and that's all the positives. They reused 13 and 96 from last week which sucks but even worse is that my god this is as subtle as getting punched in the face. They never shut up about Covid. Stretching the lesson out for an entire hour made it feel repetitive. Favorite song: 483 / 469. Sadly I wasn't able to screen record them because the PPV happened at my grandmother's house with using her iPad so I can't really do anything without anyone being suspicious of me.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,"The officer/minister was reprimanded for making Jesus ALMOST catch up to the EVM euphoric prayers. That just can not be. So the rest is the usual EVM ""ababasol"" soaked prayers.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,"Wow. Please don't stop doing this, I love it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,"**Hymns**
* 22 (""Our Fervent Prayers"")
* 13 (""Oh, We Praise You, ~~Manalo~~ Father"")
* 96 (""I'm Called and Chosen by ~~EVM~~ Jesus"")
* obedience hymn
* *also mentions one's calling into INC (and tries to make it sound like the greatest blessing ever)*
* 483 (""I Will Uphold a Worship That Is Worthy"")
* obedience hymn
* *mentions the fold/flock/whatever-it's-called*
* Processional 1 (""We Worship You, ~~EVM~~ Father"")
* mentions persecution & obedience
* mentions INC and its *(supposed)* victories
* *Could this hymn* ***BE*** *any higher?*
* Processional 2 (""May You Care for Our Weary Souls"")
* also mentions persecution
* *Could* ***THIS*** *hymn be any higher?*
* 469 (""In His Church, Be Found When The Lord Returns"")
* *Yes, that's the title (even with the capital ""T"" in ""The"")*
* *Includes obligatory descant/1st soprano*
* *I'm not sure if it's just my locale's speakers, but the 6 voice doxology just sounds like noise to me, especially the 1st soprano and 1st tenor, which sound like they're clashing.*
* 438 (""Go Forth to the Battle and Win!"")
* glorified lecture showtune
**Preludes**
* [424 (""As for Me and My Family"")](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E_V-WzrFkU)
* 133 (""What Shall I Offer unto You, Lord Jesus?"")
* 485 (""Nothing Ever Can Compare to the True Life"")
* [23 (""In That Peaceful Land"")](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAOapn823Fo)
* 498 (""I Will Finish My Course, Dear ~~EVM~~ Jesus Christ"")
* 458 (""I Will Hold Fast the Election I Have"")
* 276 (""My Almighty God, I Draw Near to You"")
* [470 (""Never Extinguish the Fire of the Holy Spirit That Works in Us"")](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwXOFyfL1So)
* [457](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FfmenNphLc) (""Let ~~Manalo~~ God Take Charge of Your Life"")
* *(Apparently you can't have both a hyperlink AND strikethrough...)*
* 48 (""To My Lord Jesus, I Will Bring My Cares"")
* [357 (""We Won't Despair"")](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rES_726O_e8)
* *(Something about this hymn rubs me the wrong way. Looking more closely, I see 4 candidates: its slow tempo \[70-74 bpm\], its sad-sounding melody that doesn't seem to want to end \[mainly 8th notes in quick succession\], its lyrics about obedience in the refrain, and its mention of remaining in the church in the last stanza)*
* [478 (""Worship Opens Doors to God's Goodness"")](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iq0NqO-f5Q)
* 394 (""Do Not Grieve the Spirit of ~~Massachusetts~~ the LORD"")
* 370 (""Please Be with Me, ~~Lord Manalo~~ Almighty God"")
* 186 (""We Wait for Him"")
* 345 (""You Are Truly Good, Lord God"")
* 76 (""Jesus, You Are My Beloved Guide"")
* 371 (""He Will Never Let Us Down"")
* 449 (""I Will Uphold My Election in the CHURCH OF CHRIST"")
* 34 (""I Pray to You"")
* played between officers' opening prayer and hymn 13
EDIT: Format (457 entry); wording (357 entry)
Also, IIRC, [343 (“We Offer”)](https://youtu.be/h_PEk4pOOcU) was played, but I can’t remember when.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,Not Attending church is worse than having covid? That's insane.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,"What about Isaiah 46:11 in Amplified Bible?
Calling a bird of prey from the east,
From a far country, the man (Cyrus) of My purpose.
Truly I have spoken; truly I will bring it to pass.
I have planned it, be assured I will do it.
So does EVM now believe this is NOT Felix Manalo????",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,Acts 20:28 in literally any version besides Lamsa.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,"This is my first time really cuss here, but putangina.
""Badly sad.""
""It's bad to get tired.""
""It's bad to weaken.""
Finished in the end with sympathy more. Yes, it is not good to always be like that but repressed emotions are not good either. That's harder to control. I'm already there, 'e. Then unhealthy positivity they teach? What are untouchable members? They may say, ""It's not better to always \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_"" than one. Because when the other one says, that will turn out to be bad even in small dosage so it will be avoided immediately.
(Google Translate)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,TL: The reason why others do not realize the importance of the taught words of God.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,Whew title pa lang it pretty seems similar to last midweek's lesson,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,Let's ask Jun Santos if he agrees or disagrees with that statement. Oh wait... nvm.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,"Of course EVM would say that because in his world, not receiving or receiving less money from his slaves is his version of hell.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,thanks!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,Kala konga may kasama nanaman sa lecture na kailangan lagi maghandog lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 14 - Jan 17, 2022)",s3uccv,2022-01-14,You’re welcome! 😁,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s3uccv/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_14_jan_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 18 - Jan 20, 2022)",s6zgno,2022-01-18,"My OWE SO would comment to me.
""We went this morning to get it (INCult WS) **OUT OF THE WAY**""
""We attended Saturday so **WE COULD BE DONE WITH IT** (INCult WS)""
Geez, why can't they see it. They are in denial of how miserable it is to attend those INCult brainwashing sessions.
\#STOP OFFERING
\#STOP ATTENDING INCULT WS",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s6zgno/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_18_jan_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 18 - Jan 20, 2022)",s6zgno,2022-01-18,"They want us to suffer for them again. What about the Manalos? How is a damn helicopter ride considered suffering? Why the hell is he living in a mansion? Why the hell isn't he suffering here with us?
Based from their lesson, Jesus suffered more than the Manalos, the apostles suffered more than the Manalos.
Then they tell us to suffer happily for them? That cult leader should suffer first! I sure as hell didn't get rewarded for my years of suffering under INC!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s6zgno/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_18_jan_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 18 - Jan 20, 2022)",s6zgno,2022-01-18,"* Deadly Theme: Don’t Leave the INC
* Rom 8:18
* 2 Cor 4:17
* Philip 3:20-21
* John 6:66-68
* 1 John 5:11-12
* John 6:64, 66
* *(Note the repeat of 6:66)*
* Heb 11:6
* Pro 3:18, 16
* 2 Cor 4:4
* Gen 3:1-6; 23-24
* Matt 4:3-4; 8-9; 10-11
* Rom 8:31
* Philip 4:13
**Stray Thoughts/Observations**
* Why does my preacher feel the need to preach for over 45 minutes (or really any longer than 25)? I would ask if he thinks he’s EVM, but we all know the answer already with some of these preacher guys…
* ThE nUmBeR oF tHe BeAsT (John 6:66) now seems to be one of their favorite verses (I first remember it in 2015/16 after the scandal in the former year.).
* Why did the recorded organist (or their choir director or whoever) insist on playing 191 as slowly as possible? The hymn recording lasts 4 minutes, 11 seconds; with 3 lengthy stanzas and a coda, it’s already long enough, music department! At this rate, it sounds like:
* *”Lord Jeeeeeeeesus maaaaaaaaaaay You watch oooooooooooohver/Through aaaaaaaaaaaaall that I must enduuuuuuuuuuuure… .”*
* *”I neeeeeeh-ver waaaaaaaant to be leeeeeeeeeehft behiiiiiiiiiiiiind/Nor seeeeeeeeeehparated from Yooooooooooouuuuuu… .”*
* See how annoying that is, music department? …you don’t even care, do you…
EDIT: Spacing, correct lyric duration & capitalization",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s6zgno/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_18_jan_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 18 - Jan 20, 2022)",s6zgno,2022-01-18,There they go again on gatekeeping specific verses that's not even related to them but to the apostles lmfao they wanna feel like the main characters in the Bible 😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s6zgno/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_18_jan_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 18 - Jan 20, 2022)",s6zgno,2022-01-18,"why does every minister try to be eddy boy lite
it's not endearing. it's kinda pathetic",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s6zgno/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_18_jan_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 18 - Jan 20, 2022)",s6zgno,2022-01-18,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s6zgno/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_18_jan_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 18 - Jan 20, 2022)",s6zgno,2022-01-18,Title: Ang dahilan kung bakit karapat-dapat na pamuhunanan ng pagtitiis ang ating pananatili sa Iglesia ni Cristo 🤦♂️,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s6zgno/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_18_jan_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 18 - Jan 20, 2022)",s6zgno,2022-01-18,My OWE SO is the same way. They tell me that we should attend a certain time to get it out of the way.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s6zgno/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_18_jan_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 18 - Jan 20, 2022)",s6zgno,2022-01-18,"Those are my comments to my OWE wife. When she asks which WS to attend, I always say the earlier the better so we can get it out of the way. Or when we are done with the weekend WS, I tell her as soon as we are in the car that I’m free!… until midweek WS (womp womp) She just sighs and rolls her eyes haha.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s6zgno/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_18_jan_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 18 - Jan 20, 2022)",s6zgno,2022-01-18,"It makes me sick to my stomach how they cherry pick verses and say that not everyone should be reading the Bible on their own. I find that reading the Word and underlining, highlighting and taking notes on the bible margin is such a valuable time to learn about God. Oftentimes even, I get to a verse that seems
To be a response to an internal concern I have on a given day. Nakakainis, so
Much trauma is involved to being in INC the first reaction is probably like an entire rejection of Jesus, God or anythibg remotely “Christian”.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s6zgno/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_18_jan_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 18 - Jan 20, 2022)",s6zgno,2022-01-18,Our minister preached for 50 minutes wtf. Might as well have evm ppv every worship service at this point.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s6zgno/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_18_jan_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 18 - Jan 20, 2022)",s6zgno,2022-01-18,"Noticed why they skip Matt 4:5-7??? Because it suggests Jesus is GOD
5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6 “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:
“‘He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’[a]”
7 Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.
These blunderers are the real Anti-Christ!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s6zgno/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_18_jan_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 18 - Jan 20, 2022)",s6zgno,2022-01-18,Suffering under INC,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s6zgno/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_18_jan_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 18 - Jan 20, 2022)",s6zgno,2022-01-18,TL: The reason why our stay in the Church of Christ deserves to be invested in patience,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s6zgno/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_18_jan_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 18 - Jan 20, 2022)",s6zgno,2022-01-18,Lol let’s not give them any ideas,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s6zgno/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_18_jan_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 21 - Jan 24, 2022)",s9cmzy,2022-01-21,"Theme: Don't Leave the INC, Detractors
Lesson said that it's sad that despite hearing the ""words of God"" people still didn't stay in INC.
Well it's also sad that despite understanding their doctrines, those INC brainwashed devotees and minionsters still couldn't properly defend their own doctrines. And they keep wondering why they couldn't keep some of their members and converts in INCult.
And then it's church administrator this and brother Eduardo V. Manalo that. And their words are god's words bullshit again. The administration and EVM got mentioned more than Jesus on this lesson.
People leave INC because they know better than to believe anything the Manalo says. They do their own research!
And what's this about enduring like the apostles again? I don't see the cult leader suffer so why should I? Exploititive bastards.
Felt like I got beaten up badly after WS.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s9cmzy/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_21_jan_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 21 - Jan 24, 2022)",s9cmzy,2022-01-21,"Title : Ang dahilan ng ikinahihiwalay sa Iglesia ni Cristo ayon kay Jesus (can someone translate it for me?)
Thoughts: As usual they praise EVM on the lecture instead of Christ.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s9cmzy/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_21_jan_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 21 - Jan 24, 2022)",s9cmzy,2022-01-21,"* DT: Don’t Leave, Detractors
* Luke 8:5-8
* Luke 8:9
* Luke 8:11-15 *(break after each verse)*
* Luke 8:18
* James 1:25
* Heb 10:36
* Matt 10:22
* Jm 1:12
* Jm 1:3-4
* Jm 5:7
* Jm 5:10-11
* Ps 40:1
**Hymns**
* nondescript officers’ prayer (156)
* lecture hymn masked as a praise showtune (207)
* obedience/submission hymns (131 & 140)
* 111 (don’t have anything bad [or good] to say about this one)
* hymn about remaining in the church (253)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s9cmzy/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_21_jan_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 21 - Jan 24, 2022)",s9cmzy,2022-01-21,"Looks like they're done pounding on offerings and have moved on to the next dead horse to beat on.
NGL, I wish they would expand more on ""detractors"". I love hearing the INCult hang itself on its own rope.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s9cmzy/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_21_jan_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 21 - Jan 24, 2022)",s9cmzy,2022-01-21,"I mostly stopped listening to the session last night right after they said, make sure you listen to everything we say. I caught just enough to realize that they are really getting worried about the number of members leaving. Basically, the lesson was those that leave are mislead, or evil, so please don't leave.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s9cmzy/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_21_jan_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 21 - Jan 24, 2022)",s9cmzy,2022-01-21,"They’re not using the key verse Rom 8: 39
nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the [unlimited] love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Bec BAM! Their worst enemy is the Bible itself",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s9cmzy/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_21_jan_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 21 - Jan 24, 2022)",s9cmzy,2022-01-21,"My favorite hymn here is CWS 61. I normally don't count CWS but 61 is one of my all time favorites. Other than that, just like every other WS in recent times, boring, forgettable, and really nothing else interesting. There's probably some garbage lesson somewhere but I really stopped caring.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s9cmzy/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_21_jan_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 21 - Jan 24, 2022)",s9cmzy,2022-01-21,"Their grip is slipping! Let's grease their hands a little more, shall we?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s9cmzy/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_21_jan_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 21 - Jan 24, 2022)",s9cmzy,2022-01-21,">Felt like I got beaten up badly after WS.
Everytime.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s9cmzy/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_21_jan_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 21 - Jan 24, 2022)",s9cmzy,2022-01-21,the only thing i endure is every long ass lesson,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s9cmzy/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_21_jan_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 21 - Jan 24, 2022)",s9cmzy,2022-01-21,">Ang dahilan ng ikinahihiwalay sa Iglesia ni Cristo ayon kay Jesus
The reason for being separated from the Church of Christ according to Jesus",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s9cmzy/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_21_jan_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 21 - Jan 24, 2022)",s9cmzy,2022-01-21,More like the Holy spirit is guiding the ones who left away from the worship of Manalo.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s9cmzy/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_21_jan_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 21 - Jan 24, 2022)",s9cmzy,2022-01-21,Thanks!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/s9cmzy/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_21_jan_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 25 - Jan 27, 2022)",scfnks,2022-01-25,"Title : Ang dahilan kung bakit anuman ang gawin ng tao rito sa mundo ay wala ring kasiyahan
Translation : The reason why whatever man does in this world is also without joy (or pleasure)
Thoughts: welp atleast they didn't mention eddie in this lecture, also it's just another brainwash scheme for the members to not have any doubts and to not leave the church lol after the offerings brainwash bullsh't they go on saying no one should leave the INC I guess they don't want to lose funds😂",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/scfnks/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_25_jan_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 25 - Jan 27, 2022)",scfnks,2022-01-25,Well the leason has a point tho. Cause there's literally no joy in their cult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/scfnks/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_25_jan_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 25 - Jan 27, 2022)",scfnks,2022-01-25,"Outside of the church is desolate regardless of what others may say. There is no happiness. So may as well stay in the cult to ensure you never have a satisfying life. /s
Life sucks if you are not a Manalo! also /s",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/scfnks/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_25_jan_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 25 - Jan 27, 2022)",scfnks,2022-01-25,"Oh the privatized hope, faith and happiness. Yet im much happier stepping quite far away from them church people. Maybe going out from that cult will assist me in attaining nirvana? Lol
And they will always wait for that time when your life or relative's life will take a downturn, claiming those misfortunes as punishment for your transgressions against them beliefs. Well headsup, even if you are inside that church you may still suffer from this world. So why not suffer less minus the guiltrippin and gaslightin of them admin?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/scfnks/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_25_jan_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 25 - Jan 27, 2022)",scfnks,2022-01-25,"One of the biggest thing that bothers me the most in the teachings of INC is that they repeatedly focus on the ""sufferings and trials"" in life... I need to be uplifted not dwell on the problems even more. Stop linking what we experience in life for lack of faith it's a blasphemy. Stop linking blessings in life with the amount of offerings we give, even better make it known to the public how much is actually gained and how they are distributed. At this rate INC is just another form of tax except this feeds the greedy Administration with healthy benefits.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/scfnks/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_25_jan_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 25 - Jan 27, 2022)",scfnks,2022-01-25,"Theme: Don't leave the INC
Guess what, I was having a good and happy week before this WS came. Of course they told us that we'll never be fully happy.
And yeah, I'm never fully happy! INC's one of the main reason why I'm never fully happy. Cause all they do is make this world and our lives as miserable as possible!
INC thinks they can make us happy just by telling us to be happy while being oppressive, toxic and exploititive.
They just want to keep their members in this true hellhole that is INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/scfnks/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_25_jan_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 25 - Jan 27, 2022)",scfnks,2022-01-25,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/scfnks/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_25_jan_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 25 - Jan 27, 2022)",scfnks,2022-01-25,"
ANG DAHILAN KUNG BAKIT ANUMAN ANG GAWIN NG TAO RITO SA MUNDO AY WALA RING KASIYAHAN
Itinuturing ng marami na kapag naging marunong, tanyag, at mayaman ang tao ay magagawa na niya ang mga bagay na makapagdudulot ng ganap na kasiyahan. Sa mensaheng ito, na batay sa leksiyong inihanay ni Kapatid na Eraño Manalo mula sa mga katotohanang nakasulat sa Biblia noong siya ay nabubuhay pa, ay patutunayan sa atin na anuman ang gawin ng tao rito sa mundo ay wala ring kasiyahan.
Ayon sa Eclesiastes 2:10-11 at 22-23, ang tinatamo ng tao sa lahat niyang gawa sa ilalim ng araw ay mga kapanglawan lamang. Ito ay pinatotohanan ni Haring Solomon nang sinabi niyang, ""Ang lahat ng ... aking pinagsikapang gawin ... ay walang kabuluhan at nauuwi sa wala, at walang pakinabang sa ilalim ng araw.""
Si Haring Solomon ay naging pinakamayamang hari sa Israel at naging makapangyarihan. Maraming dakila at magagandang bagay ang kaniyang nagawa, tulad ng palasyo na kaniyang tahanan. Subalit ayon sa kaniya, ang lahat ng kaniyang ginawa at natamo ay walang kabuluhan. At kahit naging tanyag siya dahil sa kaniyang karunungan, ipinahayag niya sa Eclesiastes 2:15 na, ""Kung ano ang nangyari sa mangmang gayon ang mangyayari sa akin."" Kaya, nasabi niyang wala ring kabuluhan ang kaniyang pagiging pantas o pagiging marunong.
Kahit ang tao ay maging mayaman, hindi pa rin siya magtatamo ng ganap na kasiyahan. Ang sabi ni Haring Solomon sa Eclesiastes 5:10, ""Siyang umiibig sa pilak ay hindi masisiyahan sa pilak ... ito man ay walang kabuluhan."" Kaya, anuman ang natamo ng tao, maging ito'y karunungan, katanyagan, at kayamanan, at anuman ang nagawa niya, ay hindi rin magdudulot sa kaniya ng ganap na kasiyahan. Ito'y sapagkat, ayon sa Eclesiastes 4:1-3, hindi pa rin nawawala ang kapighatian. Dahil sa napatunayang ito ni Haring Solomon, pinuri niya ang patay nang higit kaysa sa may buhay, at sinabi niyang mas maigi pa kaysa sa kanila kapuwa ang hindi ipinanganak sapagkat hindi ito nakakita ng masamang gawa o hindi naranasan ang kapighatian.
Talagang hindi malalasap ng tao ang ganap na kasiyahan sa buhay sa mundong ito. Kaya, batay sa Awit 102:25-26, itinakda ng Diyos na papalitan ang lupa at mga gawang narito, maging ang langit at mga gawang naroon. Ang dahilan nito, ayon sa Roma 8:20-21, ay naalipin ng kabulukan ang buong nilalang. Naging walang kabuluhan ito at sinumpa.
Nagsimula ang sumpa ng Diyos sa daigdig, alinsunod sa Genesis 3:17 at 19, nang ang mga unang tao na sina Adan, at Eva ay nagkasala dahil sa paglabag sa utos ng Diyos. Dahil dito, sinumpa ang lupa at tinakdaan ng Diyos ng kamatayan ang tao. Noong hindi pa sila nagkakasala, ang mga tao'y nasa magandang kalagayan sa halamanan ng Eden, batay sa Genesis 2:7-9. Ngunit nang sumpain sila ng Diyos dahil sa kanilang kasalanan, ang sabi sa Job 14:1-2, ""Taong ipinanganak ng babae ay sa kaunting araw, at lipos ng kabagabagan."" Pagkatapos ng paglalang kay Adan at kay Eva, lahat ng tao ay ipinanganak na ng babae. At totoong ang buhay ng lahat ng tao ay maikli, may kabagabagan, at may kamatayan.
Tanging sa kamatayang pagkalagot ng hininga, itinakda rin ng Diyos sa tao ang ikalawang kamatayan, batay sa Apocalipsis 20:14. Ito ay ang kamatayan sa dagat-dagatang apoy na siyang ganap na kabayaran ng kasalanan. Dapat sikapin ng tao na hanapin ang lunas sa mga suliraning ito.
Ang tanging lunas sa kasawiang sinapit ng sangkatauhan ay ang bagong lupa, at langit na nilikha ng Diyos, ayon sa Isaias 65:17-19. Iyon ang ipapalit ng Diyos sa mundo. Doon, ang tao ay matutuwa at magagalak magpakailan man. Tinitiyak din sa Apocalipsis 21:4 na wala na roong kamatayan, dalamhati, panambitan, o hirap, sapagkat lahat ng bagay na nagdudulot ng mga ito ay naparam na. Samakatuwid, ang mga magmamana ng bagong lupa at langit o ng Bayang Banal ang siyang tiyak na magtatamo ng ganap na kasiyahan. Inaasahan naman ng Diyos, alinsunod sa Isaias 65:23, na sila'y ""hindi gagawa ng walang kabuluhan ... sapagkat sila ang lahi ng mga pinagpala ng Panginoon.""
Pinatutunayan sa Mateo 19:28 na ang lahi ng mga pinagpala ay ang mga sumusunod sa Panginoong Jesucristo sa pagbabagong-lahi.
Ayon sa Efeso 2:15 at Colosas 1:18, sila ay ang mga kasama sa isang taong bago na nilalang Niya mula sa dalawa: si Cristo na ulo, at ang Iglesia na katawan—isang taong bago sa kabuuan. Ang tinutukoy ng mga apostol na Iglesia ay ang Iglesia Ni Cristo. Kung gayon, ang Iglesia Ni Cristo ang kaparaanan upang makarating ang tao sa bagong lupa at langit o sa Bayang Banal na siyang tanging lunas sa kasawiang nararanasan ng sangkatauhan. Napakapalad natin dahil kaanib tayo sa Iglesia Ni Cristo.
Huwag natin ipagpapalit sa anuman at kaninuman ang ating pagka-Iglesia Ni Cristo kahit pa makaranas tayo ng pag-uusig. Kapag inuusig tayo, alalahanin natin ang pahayag ng Panginoong Jesucristo sa Juan 15:20-21 na, ""Ang alipin ay hindi dakila kay sa kaniyang panginoon."" Kung Ako'y kanilang pinag-uusig, kayo man ay kanilang pinag-uusig din."" Sinabi pa Niya na, ""Ang lahat ng mga bagay na ito ay gagawin nila sa inyo dahil sa Aking Pangalan."" Ito ang pangalang itinatawag sa atin—Iglesia Ni Cristo. Gayunman, tinitiyak Niya sa Mateo 5:10-12 na, ""Mapapalad ang mga pinag-uusig dahil sa katuwiran sapagkat kanila ang kaharian ng langit."" Kung gayon, hindi kalugihan kung makaranas tayo ng pag-uusig o pagwikaan tayo ng masama na pawang kasinungalingan at alimurahin dahil sa pagka-Iglesia Ni Cristo. Kaya ang sabi Niya, ""Mangagalak kayo, at mangagsayang totoo: sapagkat malaki ang ganti sa inyo sa langit.""
Anuman ang nagawa at natamo natin dito sa mundo ay mawawalan ng kabuluhan at hindi magdudulot sa atin ng ganap na kaligayahan sapagkat dito ay makakaranas pa rin tayo ng kapighatian. **Ang ating pagka-Iglesia Ni Cristo ang tanging magdudulot sa atin ng ganap na kaligayahan** sapagkat sa pamamagitan ay makakaasa tayo na makapapasok sa Bayang Banal. Kaya mahalin natin at lubos na pahalagahan ang ating pagka-Iglesia Ni Cristo.
PAGSAMBANG PANSAMBAHAYAN
BATAY SA LEKSIYONG BINALANGKAS NG KAPATID NA ERAÑO G. MANALO
SABADO/LINGGO: ENERO 26/27, 2022",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/scfnks/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_25_jan_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 25 - Jan 27, 2022)",scfnks,2022-01-25,"So they said the entire WS will now take place on Webex starting February. While my hymn downloading project is back and that makes me happy, it's time to suffer through long lectures again and that sucks. 23 is the best song here and I have nothing else to say.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/scfnks/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_25_jan_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 25 - Jan 27, 2022)",scfnks,2022-01-25,Another doom and gloom lesson eh. Make evm smile but make members sad. What a joke.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/scfnks/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_25_jan_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 25 - Jan 27, 2022)",scfnks,2022-01-25,You are TRULY CORRECT!!!!🙏🏼,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/scfnks/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_25_jan_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 25 - Jan 27, 2022)",scfnks,2022-01-25,"This is our turo too today!!! The first time I heard of why 'we' will never be happy, I completely shutted my ears and had the same opinion as you too. 🤣",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/scfnks/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_25_jan_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 25 - Jan 27, 2022)",scfnks,2022-01-25,Shouldn't that be Wednesday/Thursday,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/scfnks/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_25_jan_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 25 - Jan 27, 2022)",scfnks,2022-01-25,">Make evm smile but make members sad.
Got it right.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/scfnks/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_25_jan_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jan 25 - Jan 27, 2022)",scfnks,2022-01-25,"Oops, sorry. I'm confused too. I just copied that from their pdf.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/scfnks/midweek_worship_service_examination_jan_25_jan_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,"During midweek WS, I just found out who is the most important man on earth. Guess who? 🤭 my face went like 🤯🥴,seriously?!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,If there are any OWE Deacon or Deaconesses around can be you please explain why the 30 mins between officer prayer and start of service for Online. There is no point,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,lmao another remix of midweek ws (which in itself is another remix of the past ws lessons),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,"Title: Ang dahilan kung bakit may iglesia ni cristo na hindi tumatanggap ng Espiritu Santo
The reason why there is an INC member that doesn't receive / feel the Holy Spirit
I think I've heard this lesson last December... or early January... same old..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,"* Deadly Theme: Don’t leave
* 1 Cor 2:14
* Rom 8:9
* Gal 5:19-20
* Rom 8:7-8
* Rom 8:13
* Eph 4:30-32 (break after 31)
* Jm 3:14-16 (break after 15)
* 1 Cor 14:33
* 1 Cor 14:40
* 1 Cor 14:26-30
* 2 Chr 29:35
* Ps 51:11
* Is 63:10 (admin mentioned here)
* Ps 51:1-3
* Ps 51:10-11
* [Hymn lineup](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/rs0fqf/jan_2022_lineups/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
**An Observation**
* Notice that [1 Cor 14:34-35](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Cor+14%3A34-35&version=NIV) (among others) were skipped? The first 4 words: “Women should remain silent… .”",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,"so i heard in the lesson that Satan causes division
but EVM caused a schism with his controversial expulsion of his family
so by basic logic, Satan = EVM??????
i think i just figured everything out, guys.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,"from what i'm hearing here it's just another snoozefest.
which reminds me, one of the ministers once said that repetition is good for you.
it's good for learning useful skills. it's not useful for constantly saying that the world is ass and nothing matters.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,https://youtu.be/hKh0SPB5cjw,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,So they are saying the most important man on earth is a con man......,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,MANALO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,Supposed to be for meditation 🤣,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,It's for meditation prior to the devotional prayer for all the officers...but it's also good gossip time while waiting for the time to pray.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,Same shit I was thinking. The lesson also talked about forgiveness and getting along with the brotherhood. So evm can’t forgive and also causes division. Supposedly he will lead us to perfection before judgement day. This leader is leading us to hell is how I see it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,"The only time the iglesia Ni Christo preaches the scripture “in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit” is when a INC brainwashed Member is baptized. The Bible doesn’t have the word “Trinity” but it’s a term that Christians use…….A TERM!!!!! The fact that the iglesia Ni Christo uses that TERM they are hypocrites and truly brainwashed its members minds. The Bible doesn’t have the name Felix Manalo in it but the iglesia Ni Christo preaching swears he is the last messenger of GOD, which is truly wrong and False!!! Jesus Christ’s gospel speaks of False Prophets and Prophecies which the iglesia Ni Christo is🙏🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,"i'm sorry but i don't have 27 minutes to kill, thanks tho",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jan 28 - Jan 31, 2022)",sesplc,2022-01-28,"""Forgiveness"" LOL
The saltiest people I know are from the INC.
Oh geez....",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sesplc/weekend_worship_service_examination_jan_28_jan_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Absolutely one of the worst lesson I have ever heard in my life. Mid-week PPV not led by Lord EVM but led by some high ranking minister telling us over and over the absolute authority of EVM and the administration. To obey the administration. Oh we’ve heard the obey and submit to the administration lesson so many times, but this is the absolute worst obey admin/lord EVM lesson to date. They are not just doubling down, they are freaking tripling down on the admin/EVM obedience.
This PPV is a huge middle finger to all physically in, mentally out trapped members in the cult because one of the focal points of this lesson is to attack and character assassinate people who use social media or what they call “godless chatter”. Over and over they shit on people who dare use their critical thinking skills. They literally use the word cult, and shit on people who call INC a cult. I’m not even joking, the officiating minister called people who go on social media who go against the church as virtue signalers. They even called it a sickness, they actually called it cancer. Oh my god, this PPV was so disgusting,",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Oh yikes WebEx lessons for the entire month? Long dragging hymns, long prayers about EVM, long boring sermons. This cult needs a reality check. Do you even want members to stay? As a former believer, the heartfelt hymns and prayers and short but meaningful sermons are what made people enjoy going to church. To forget worldly problems. Now, it's just a 2-hour snoozefest, 3 hours for officers. Oh my gosh, these people need to get a grip on cult membership maintenance lmao people are leaving!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"To be honest I just want to rant in Filipino because nakakagago talaga yung lesson. Heh, proving INC is not a cult? Using the bible to justify obeying church administration is not wrong? I couldn't even count how many times pAmAmAhALa has been mentioned throughout the lesson.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"This is probably one of the longest 2 hours of my life. The hymns are DEADASS LONG (2 of the hymns are about 4 minutes long, all about submission, obedience, and loyalty). Plus the sermon was I think about 45 minutes long (I was spacing out lol) and there they explained why INC is not a cult LMAO and the basis of INC's doctrine of submission to the cult administration.
Most of the themes of the hymns lined up this month are all about submission and obedience which means we'll have to listen to the same shit all over again for the whole month lol I hope February ends soon already.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"i’m honestly shocked because i haven’t heard something as infuriating and disgusting as this lesson in a long time…
they denounce positive traits like independent-thinking and open-mindedness, then oversimplify them into “hearing what we want to hear” or “following popular fads.”
the way they ridicule members for practicing critical thinking is so insidious and sick! everything that makes us human is not allowed in this church and we’re expected to act like dogs for the rest of our lives. it’s so ridiculous, oh my god.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"This is a very sick lesson that makes a crude attempt at warping the definition of a cult. Try the BITE model, INCult, to see how much of a cult you really are!
Also, the cult admin seems to be extra threatened lately",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,I feel like this lesson was in response to this sub.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"45-minute long casual worship services already make me want to pull my hair and rip my eyeballs, then I discover we’re gonna have to attend WebEx Lessons during the entire month? Hell No I’d rather smash my head against the nearest wall.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"I just wanna say thanks to INC for the shoutout in todays lesson. We’ll definitely get more people to come to this subreddit because of the constant naysaying about the “dangers” of the internet from INC.
Real talk tho INCrazies be salty saying *we’re* a cult they aren’t like spoiled babies.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"LMAO even their own cited examples from the Bible backfire against them. The verses they cited about Paul and Barnabas were very explicit about how *the early Christians themselves* come together to discuss and make decisions for their organization. Sure, their elders deliberated on important matters, but the former was also heard out and accounted for (unlike the morons at Central who just rely on ""obey and never complain"").
This isn't even mY oWn oPiniOn, it's all right there in the verses they mentioned, for anyone who bothers to pay attention. Joel San Pedro you fucking amateur.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.
1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
2. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
3. No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.
4. Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.
5. There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
6. Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.
7. There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.
8. Followers feel they can never be ""good enough"".
9. The group/leader is always right.
10. The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing ""truth"" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.
More here https://culteducation.com/warningsigns.html",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Just read the hws lesson. This is to keep up with inc friends and family just in case they asked.
In summary , it about the top 5 characteristics of NT church of JC that is very much like ~~inc~~ Iglesia ng Pamamahala to prove that Iglesia ng Pamamaha is real. Of course hellfire for ya if you as a member will fail to obey and faithful to their cause.
Is it 2015 again? Do they feel that more members are leaving and not following their beloved pamamahala?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"I wonder how many OWEs have legitimately never heard of cult accusations towards the INC and are now thinking about where the hell did this lesson come from.
1. An INC member primarily belonging to social media circles with fellow members is very unlikely to see anti-INC content.
2. Personally, I first learned about many of AE's issues about INC **in the fucking WS**, not by browsing AE's content. There was a time when ministers doubled down on Jesse Macaspac and I was like ""who the fuck is he"".
They'll never mention Reddit in WS. They know about the Streisand effect and rightly fear it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,😏 smells like desperation from the cult. After reading everybody's comment for this brainwashing sesh..all I can say is...LMFAO 🤣🤣 this cult is seriously a f'king joke!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Yeah and after this WS the deacon and deaconess had a meeting and their circular was that they're shifting their priorities towards the gays, tomboys, lesbians, those who identify something else; Bascially part of the lgbtq+ community, who are in the the church and outside... 💀💀",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,I am still a member and I want to get out. But how come everytime I do not attend these WS I still feel guilty?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Basically the sermon is all about proving INC is not a cult but at the same time brainwashing members from having free will and critical thinking. Just follow what the goddamn cult says. Oh the irony,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Another band aid solution from the church angrynistration. The way that Joel San Pedro preached about the INC not being a cult is actually a sign that INC is a true cult. His entire ~~lesson~~ shit show was all about defending Eduardo and not INC. And that is the first sign of being a cult.
P.S. He tried to make Eduardo having similar mindset as apostle James. And that all their decisions are from God. This made me wonder if apostle James had actually built the Colosseum in Rome that's why Eduardo built a modern day version of this which is the Philippine Arena. Joel San Pedro and EVM must be delusional.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"# [Tagalog HWS Text](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/siplox/midweek_hws_lesson_for_this_week_tagalog/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
**Sermon**
* “Five Characteristics of the New Testament Church That Can Only Be Found in the Church of Christ Today” (Translation of Tagalog HWS Text)
* DT: Social Media, The Admin
* [Acts 15:1-2](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15%3A1-2&version=NKJV)
* *First characteristic: Approached admin in case of dispute*
* [Repeat Acts 15:2](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15%3A2&version=NKJV)
* *Second characteristic: Some drivel about the admin (I started zoning out here and began to rely on the Tagalog HWS Text)*
* [Acts 15:12-13, 19](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15%3A12-13%2C19&version=NKJV)
* *Third characteristic: Something about not following the ""pOpUlAr ChOiCeS""*
* [Acts 15:15-19, 28](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15%3A15-19%2C+28&version=NKJV) *(Note the repeat of 19)*
* *Fourth: Something about not laying greater burden*
* [Acts 15:30-31](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+15%3A30-31&version=NKJV)
* *Fifth: Something about how one ""should"" feel when receiving admonition*
* [Acts 16:4-5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+16%3A4-5&version=NKJV)
* [2 Tim. 4:3-4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+4%3A3-4&version=NKJV) *(Preceding link leads to NKJV; Tagalog HWS Text cites the* [*Magandang Balita Biblia \[MB\]*](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+4%3A3-4&version=MBBTAG)*)*
* 2 Tim. 2:16 *(*[*NIV*](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+2%3A16&version=NIV) *&* [*MB*](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+2%3A16&version=MBBTAG)*)* & 17 *(*[*Easy-to-Read*](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+2%3A17&version=ERV) *&* [*MB*](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+2%3A17&version=MBBTAG)*)*
* [Heb. 10:27](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+10%3A27&version=NKJV)
* [Col. 1:9-11](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Col+1%3A9-11&version=NKJV)
**Some Observations**
* The sermon itself was about 41 minutes.
* The closing prayer lasted nearly 6 minutes.
* During the time the minister was (supposedly) praying to Christ, he couldn't help but start praying for the dEaReSt ElDeR (or however it was worded).
* The last officers' prayer lasted roughly a minute and 30-40 seconds.
* I failed to time the other prayers.
* From the start of the first hymn (not counting officers' prayer hymn) to the end of the recessional hymn was about an hour and 10-ish minutes.
* I just love how the minister on the video tried to turn the tables by claiming other religions are cults and not the INC. So basically: ""I know you are, but what am I?"" apparently forgetting everything that just came out of his mouth.
* Just to get to the sermon took 22 minutes after the (supposed) start time. Not only did the hymns start late by about 5 minutes, but the hymns themselves moved at a glacial pace (looking at you, whoever played hymn 191!). 367 lasted nearly 3 minutes; [356](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puLIRjumVbw) and the aforementioned 191 lasted about 4 apiece.
* How do I know this? They have a cheat-sheet that tells when each hymn starts and dictates which hymn is the last before opening prayer.
* For whatever reason, the prelude section is much longer now; previously, it was only about 23-25 minutes to accommodate the officers' opening prayer; now, it's about 29-30 minutes. Unless the officer playing the file skips to the start of hymn-singing at the WS start time, the hymns will start late (esp. if the person praying takes his/her time) ; unfortunately, whoever made the video file felt like leaving all the preludes in, and my preacher didn't feel the need to start the hymns on time (or probably couldn't figure out how), so with these combined with the lengthy officers' prayer, the delay was very noticeable.
* Apparently these video worthless services are vErY sEcUrE to the point that the preacher guy must delete the file with the TSV witnessing (or vice versa, may even include other officers in either scenario). Aww, that's so considerate! They're taking the oUtSiDeRs into consideration by not letting this drivel get anywhere near them! /s
* oh who am I kidding...they don't want to give OuTsIdErS the satisfaction that their thoughts about this cult are correct.
Edit: some words",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Usually I don’t listen to the lesson but I heard today was a shitshow, so I wanted to listen. I don’t understand how people still believe in this. The only thing that scares me is how my family is going to react when I tell them I don’t believe. I guess I listen to those social media communities who are genuine, sorry I mean only tell me what I want to hear ;)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Theme: Social Media against the church, The Administration
Wow...just wow. Absolutely the worst lesson I've ever heard, absolute torture.
INCult says ""WE are NOt a CUlt, oTher rEligIOn aRE Cults"" then proceeds to praise Manalo even more and make him like the apostles.
They tell us we should be happy recieving their demands through messenger and what not because that's ""GoD's wORds YOu aRe recieving"". I nearly laughed out loud during WS upon hearing that.
Proceeds to discourage independent thinking as they try to turn their followers into obedient zombies even more. Manalo be praised!
I wanted to just cover my ears and just sleep the lessons off.
And my family thinks the minister did a good job teaching. Ughhh...I was kind of hoping they'd wake up.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,The interlude was so long I actually started to feel scared that everyone at the place of worship was taken hostage,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"""We are not a cult!!!!"" = Yeah, you are definitely a cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Lol we need to start preparing for this weekends lesson about lgbtq+ u/Rauffenburg, you got anything in mind???",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Lesson this week: critical thinking is a big no-no. Follow the leader!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,this lesson was specifically designed to piss off the subreddit.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,How many members did we gain this week? u/Rauffenburg ? Maybe we can get u/mezzmeriser (idk if this is how you spell it) to give us an update to see how many apostates we gained as a result of this lesson?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Any religion that must say I am not a cult, truly is a cult.
Tywin Lannister.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"INC is butt hurts being called a “cult” and say its claim as the true church today compare herself to the church in the bible and then say that members should not have a personal interpretations of reading the scriptures.
FYM is the first one in the church membership roster that is guilty of his own “personal interpretations” of verses in the scriptures stolen from his previous different Protestant doctrines that he joined then when he founded his own church, copy the first century model and claimed his corporation he organized as the true one.!
The first registered name Iglesia Ni Cristo (Disciples) in the Philippines 1901 will accuse him of being the fake one. He is a former member of this group and like a virus that take over the host, stole or take over its identity and mostly stole its members then eventually walks away with its name too.
Even today identity theft is a serious crime!
The protestant pastors that annointed Manalo in December 25, 1918 years later realized they were conned by the shrewed messenger from the east.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Who can summarize the lesson? I want to know how long it would take, and what to expect. Thanks. Another mental gymnast.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,The quality of the video was very poor. Lip synch was about 0.1 seconds out so could not concentrate so just terminated early.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,So annoying that mid week is thru webex. How long do I have to sit there? 😒,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Genuinely curious, lurkers: does knowledge of INC being called a cult affect y'all?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,This was a sad attempt at trying to convince people that they're not in a cult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,367 is my 4th favorite hymn overall. I’m saying this because it’s the only thing I remember. I seem to constantly forget everything that happens in HWS’s which is probably a good thing because of what I’m seeing with everyone else’s comments here. Also why does 356 sound a bit off? Like how 356 was sung felt different in the video at least compared to the other hymns in the lineup.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"This is what's going through my mind on this PPV.
Minister life would be like:
Minister: We are not a CULT! it is the other religions who are the real CULT!!! In fact we are growing like you have never seen before!
(after the WS, Minister meets the OFFICERS)
Minister: Brethren, do we have new visitor today for the propagation...?
Officers: uhmm zero Brother...
Minister: (WTF!!! my salary will be lower again this MONTH!!). Ok, Brethren, you need to do all or whatever you can to get visitors, reach out to your officemates or friends, it will be shameful if we cant provide new recruit opps i mean new brother in the faith.
Officers: (hmm that's why we're wondering why you keep saying we are growing)
Minister: What about the offerings, are we progressing?
Officers: Brother, we are declining because less are giving money and some are not even attending anymore.
Minister: (WTF is going on here!!!, I'll be in trouble, i dont wanna be thrown to some remote places like to the ""ends of the earth""!!!). Ok, overseers, you need to take care of your group, I'm expecting your salaysay on why less are attending. (grrrrr! keep smiling, keep your composure)
District Minister: Hey, why is your locale not only zero visitor but also less offerings this MONTH???!
Minister: Sir, less member are attending the WS :(
District Minister: I dont give a d\*mn! DO WHAT EVER you need to do, what the hell are your officers been doing??
Minister: Sir, will speak to them again.
District Minister: You better do it or ELSE, you know which place you'll see yourself in to the remote places on earth.
Minister: (Damn!! these LAZY officers will get more guilt tripping from me for sure, I'm gonna ask URGENT MEETING!!!)
...........Poor Officers. Time to wake up!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,This makes me feel more trapped.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"At least some of our ""godless chatterings"" have evidence. INC can't even prove to us that WW1 started in July 27 1914 and Isaiah 46:11 refers to Felix Manalo and not King Cyrus.
INC makes claims that they are growing but they provide no proof. They just make claims one after another and expect us to believe it because EVM says so.
INCult won't stop being a cult just because they said they're not a cult. They're throwing a temper tantrum in lesson form.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,it took THIS LESSON for you to come back? ohhhhhhh welcome back,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Hello again! Glad to see you post again!
I wish I could give your comment multiple upvotes because I agree 100% with everything you said",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Mabuti naman kung ganoon, marami nang aalis.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,not happening. why do you think people are STILL leaving,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,">Using the bible to justify obeying church administration is not wrong
lmao what else would those morons use to keep the loyalists placated",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Just came from WS. The amount of times the admin/EVM was mentioned is staggering.
Disgusting lesson indeed and a load of BS! And my family still doesn't realize it in fact, they still think the minister did a good job brainwashing...I mean teaching those poor souls around me.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Tungkol saan ba yung leksyon kanina?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Of course it's the year of the Election kaya papasok na diyan si Brainwashing effect tapos makakadinig ka ng OBEY AND NEVER COMPLAIN MADA FAKAHS nagulat din ako sa mga line up.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Submission my ass FUCK MANALO grabe na pala INC no ???? 😂😂😂😂😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,I wonder if high church officials visit this sub and how do they cope with the cognitive dissonance lol do they even believe they're in the true church or are most of them aware that it's a moneymaking cult that benefits them?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,did you smash your head?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Oh God, same. I was dreading how long it was and kept thinking when it’s going to end.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"lmao if they really want to be like the 1st century church then just give each district representation in a senate-like organization
and also fight over circumcision again",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"EwwVM. Narinig ko na tagal ng pagsamba kanina. Letse, isang oras yung leksyon.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Jeez, what are they planning to do?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Funny that most of the post I see here who rants are and wants to go out of the cult are the LGBT.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Don't worry. I used to feel the same way when I skipped some services. When all you heard throughout your life is to always follow the administration and church, there's a part of your brain that thinks what you are doing is wrong.
But really think about it. Do you want to spend the rest of your life worshipping a church that just wants our money? They are a business who capitalizes on fear and authority.
It gets better, I promise. It's feels great to know the truth and be free from the brainwashing of INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"did they just use Acts chapter 15 for over half of the lesson????? wtf
the chapter where Peter and Paul settle whether the Romans and Greeks should be circumcised? *this* is the chapter you use to try to argue for your ""characteristics"", as commenter OP puts it? that chapter has absolutely nothing to do with whatever INC is arguing for.
my fucking head hurts. context is a bitch, huh",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"**Non-Hymns**
* 211 (""~~Manalo~~ Father, We Thank You So Much"")
* refrain mentions one's calling
* 302 (""Everyone, Revere ~~EVM~~ the Lord, Our God"")
* lecture/obedience hymn disguised as a showtune
* an old slogan (""Abound in our faith, love and hope"") was shoehorned into the 2nd stanza
* 367 (~~""Manalo, I'll Submit to You""~~ ""Lord God, I Will Submit to You"")
* obvious submission/obedience hymn
* (As I mentioned earlier, this dreaded recording ate up nearly 3 minutes of everyone's time)
* [356 (""My Loyalty to You Will Never Change"")](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puLIRjumVbw)
* surprise, another obedience hymn
* (Mentioned earlier, but: Bye-bye, another 4 minutes \[and 6 seconds\] of everyone's life.)
* 191 (""Lord ~~Manalo~~ Jesus, Watch over Me"")
* (If the instrumental outro were included, this recording likely would've passed the 4-minute mark.)
* 118 (""Make Us One"")
* obedience/submission hymn
* (Is it just me, or do the higher-ups seem to like this before text hymn? It seems to play quite often compared to some other before text ""hymns."")
* 293 (""Truly, We Will Be Victorious"")
* Old title was something like: ""Victory! Victory!""
* Immediately the lyrics are about defending one's calling \*rolls eyes\*
* And no, the rest of the hymn isn't much better if at all
**""Hymn"" Excerpts!**
WARNING: Cringe-fest incoming!!
This part is solely to provide a few word-for-word examples of what I mean when I say obedience and/or submission hymn. No copyright infringement intended.
>""Create in me a heart so pure;
My strength, O Lord, renew;
Your Holy Spirit, please,
Take not away from me.
According to Your faithful love,
Blot out the sins I've done—
Your words divine,
Plant deeply in my mind.""
>
>—367 (Refrain)
>""I will safeguard and take care of the calling I received,
This great blessing you bestowed upon me—oh this true and holy faith.""
>
>—356 (First Half of Refrain)
>""I will uphold your righteousness in my life
So that, in holiness I may stand firm, LORD;
I'll be obedient to Your commandments,
That I'll remain Your chosen one forevermore.""
>
>—356 (Third Stanza)
>""To Your teachings divine,
Complete obedience, we pledge,
So that we surely can remain
Evermore united.""
>
>—118 (Refrain)
Edit: format, word",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,I did laugh out loud at one point 🤣,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,This. They could've used the webex format of one prelude then starting the hymn singing right away. Now it's fukn 30 minutes longer than usual ughhhhh,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,“We are not a cult even though everything in this ‘lesson’ says we are!”,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Lol they revealed their weakness and we doubled down on it for like 3 days.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Just showed they're are pissed off at this subreddit.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Weekly update tomorrow.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Identity theft is not a joke, Jim! Millions of families suffer every year!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Lesson itself is about 45 minutes of ""wE'rE nOt A cUlT,"" even though their ""evidence"" says otherwise. Yup, mental gymnastics indeed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Best comment and most pragmatic move for tonights ws.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Wtf. Really? If webex is still 1.5-3hrs long, then they're so out of touch and selfish for doing this on the midweek services. HELLO your members work so they can give YOU money they're tired! They don't want to attend a 2hr long INTERNET WS before or after work.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Regular members must sit for over an hour (roughly an hour and 10-15 minutes). For officers, that estimate may very well exceed 2 hours!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Being CALLED a cult? Or actually being a cult?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"I’m curious, what is INC’s definition of a cult then? I bet they would never define what a cult is because it’ll be just self incriminating.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Don't forget, if that doesn't work you should have daily devotional prayers where everyone comes to the chapel and kneels so God will give us more fruits and more money.
I remember being in a district that had DISTRICT WEEKLY DEVOS that all officers had to attend--or else!!! Asking for bible students and for money. I asked the resident worker ""hey, what does it mean when the entire district is united in prayer--every week--being led by the top dawg district ministers praying fervent as hell for these things and yet the entire district is failing in all the categories we're praying for? Annnnd we've been doing this for over a year now and still failing as a district?"" He shrugged and said, ""We just have to keep praying brother."" Seriously? IF INC had the same God of Elijah, the moment he prayed God started a fire with wet wood or caused a three-year drought! Even IF God responds to 1/3 of the prayers, 52 weeks of all officers in the district prayers, 52 weeks of local-level devotional prayers, DAILY minister prayers with the district, and yet none of them answered? WTF?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Oh they do.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"*Cognitive dissonance* implies that these OWEs are beginning to question the INC. And some do.
But others just don't, the epitome of people ""who will live and die as INC members"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"you make a small movement inside and somehow everyone’s attention is on you, i wish it was easy man.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,This! Hahaha,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Naalala ko tuloy ung tropa ko na non member, sabi nya kaya mahaba at repetitive ang lesson sa church nyo para maumay ka nalang at mag agree ka nalang sa sinasabi sa inyo. Looking back tama nga siya.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Usually, working age lgbtq+ are very much strapped with moolah and they love to flaunt it!
A custom indoctrination program targetting lgbtq+ would be an investment.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Right? What do I get? I give them my hard earned money but it doesn't have benefits for me. Only for them.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Yup, seems to me like they’re running out of ways to “DeFeNd ThE fAiTh.” *Defame* the “faith” seems more appropriate for what INC is doing/attempting to do",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,It just blows my mind how the church feels so entitled of our time 😤,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Thank you so much for the weekly updates! I usually enjoy seeing the graph and how many members we gained 😍,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Then they showed an ""inspiring"" video before the Officers Prayer which was all about obedience and how thankful this person was to the church administration. Just another means of controlling the narrative. So you are now conditioned to hear ""obey obey obey"" and hear some story about a member who is going through some sh\*t but they still ""obey obey obey""and because they seem happy and great, then they mix in EVM saying ""members dont have to worry about anything in life because God is with the COC..."" boom, you're now ready for the next hour and a half of the hand-waving show.
I've watched a lot of these video vignettes, and if you really really listen, these people are in dire straits but are basically being told or ""coerced by media influencing tactics"" to say the sound bites they need to tie to EVM's preaching. There was one video where the guy lost both of his kids (still births) even though he and his wife prayed and prayed and prayed both times his wife was pregnant. Then after their second child died during birth, his wife ended up passing away! (mix in EVM saying we will experience sorrows but god will protect us and give us what we need) and this guy's FINAL LINE before they faded to black was, ""I am so thankful to EVM and the church administration for visiting us here in our province. Thank you po, we love you po."" WHhhhhhhat the F\*Ck!!! You lost everything! EVERYTHING! Even though you did everything they said you needed to do. You prayed your guts out. You performed your duty with tears and then rushed to the hospital right afterwards so you can tend to your wife, then to work, then to church duties... and you lost your kids and your wife and this is the INSPIRATIONAL ENDING TO YOUR STORY? THANK YOU PO FOR VISITING?!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"People in cults often don't know the difference, so the question was directed towards them. Understand? :)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,They never actually defined what a cult was. They just mentioned that people online are calling the INC a cult then basically said not to listen to those online saying that.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Also, dont forget the evening panata for a whooping 2 years straight praying to end the pandemic, yet , I remember on multiple WS during the period where the Minister will often said that things will not gonna be better and end of the world is VERY NEAR!! While on the other hand, reminding the special offerings and lagak dont forget brethren! and those member who will not “sulong” will go to the lake of fire!………who still buys this SHIT??",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Every time they come to this page, members, officers, ministers, district minister... I believe they become subverted a little more. Exposure to the truth will do that to you.
I believe this happened to Jose Ventilacion, who quickly lost grip on his argument and was eventually banished to a remote locale for 'failing in his duty'. You think he didn't have his doubts?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Yup they’re obsessed and paranoid.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"betraying traditionalist values for the almighty dollar
i wonder how that will go down?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"if you are unlucky to get sick, dont expect their New Era Hospital to give you a FREE support, it is only free to their Ministers who are also benefiting from your offerings. CRINGE!! so yeah ZERO BENEFITS and more on one way street and modern slavery (if you are an officer).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Ministers will often claim, “GoD iS oNlY aSkInG fOr 2 HoUrS pEr WeEk,” conveniently forgetting to consider the “extra” stuff such as devotional prayers, meetings, bible studies, “SpEcIaL” worship services, etc.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Oh well, I guess I should have assumed that. Bad on me, eh?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"Haha Right?! One direct call to God from EVM should have ended this pandemic since it is affecting member's ability to get to church and give their offerings in person! Imagine the publicity that would gain them and how much of a proof that INC is the real church of the God in the bible... but two years and nothing!
An HD friend of mine said their District Auditor said the reason their district is forcing brethren back to the chapels is because the offerings were too low when they were running WebEx. So, they DONT care for people's well-being, just their money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"i've been waiting for the end for a long ass time.
...actually, so did the christians of antiquity. and the crusades. and the renaissance.
...the end isn't coming, is it",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,You'd be very surprised at the extent of the brainwashing done at the SFM (CEM during Joe V's time). EVM himself can murder a minister's entire family in cold blood and they'd still swear loyalty to him.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Paranoid indeed!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,Sounds exciting and the eye opening to even the diehard OWEs,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,of course they will not betray the traditional values but more like change lgtbq people and be one of us since we are the ~~one true church~~. weekend service here we go...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 01 - Feb 03, 2022)",shwyfu,2022-02-01,"you bet! funny thing is, by just looking at INC period alone, from FYM to EVM, how many MILLION TIMES did they scare their pity members on this script ""END IS VERY NEAR"" within this century of their monopoly??? Yet, members dont see it through, that it's all scripted to keep them in the flock so they can be **controlled** for their MONEY!!!!! it's all about the MONEY.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/shwyfu/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_01_feb_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Here's the audio file of the lesson:
~~https://soundcloud.com/ador-de-leon/inc-lgbt-lesson~~
EDIT: new link - https://1drv.ms/u/s!AhlvTuiaGlGOaq9zeLKCGY8-RCM",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Homophobic lesson. Not good. Might report them to the UK Police for inciting hatred against LGBTQ+.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"just went to church today. the minister said that this church is against oppression, then gave a whole sermon on why ppl of lgbtq+ are “immoral” & “wicked in the sight of god” and should repent immediately because we’re sinners 😂🤣",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Geez, what did the LGBTQ community do to piss the INC admin off?
INC says they're against oppression. Yeah sure, tell that to the trapped members here.
INC also said that they don't promote hate. Yeah sure, tell that to those who got expelled.
Oh and they said those things while also saying that being gay should be criminalized.
These lessons are becoming more and more ridiculous and delusional. Keep pissing people off INC, doing a good job there.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"i’ve never felt more fucking frustrated during a worship service. i was tearing up out of frustration. i’m bisexual and nonbinary so of course this put an effect on me. they preach that they don’t discriminate and that they don’t want to spread hate yet they spew out this fucking bullshit. the minister was like “we do not discriminate or promote hatred towards anyone of any race, sexual gender, blah blah blah however…” HOWEVER? adding that “however” just basically says “yeah im not homophobic but gay people can rot in hell lol”
another thing that pissed me off was when they talked about pronouns. so what if someone wants to change their fucking pronouns? just bc you wouldnt do it doesnt mean you can’t be respectful. the inc swears they’re a child of god yet they have no ounce of humanity in them. i think at one point the minister said “so called pronouns” or something like that and i wanted to off myself in the middle of the church. they also were basically saying that its bullshit that theres laws where you have to respect someones pronouns. “they’ll start hate campaigns if we misgender them” ARE YOU FUCKING DELUSIONAL? WE’RE GAY/TRANS NOT FUCKING CRYBABIES HELLO?
he was talking about how the LGBTQ+ community wants to be accepted and to be treated with respect but being gay is a sin so basically it shouldnt be granted. what the fuck is that? first off, the bible doesnt even say that homosexuality is a sin. there was a mistranslation and for the past 50 yrs people just rolled with it. second, even if it was a sin, can’t you be a decent fucking human being and respect everyone regardless of who they love? why does the inc genuinely believe that god is gonna make them rot in hell if those of the same sex love each other? i swear to god the inc preaches shit as if we’re still in the 1700’s or something. they think being gay is equivalent to being a murderer.
fuck the inc. they hate every community that isn’t theres until THEYRE the ones getting shat on.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"THE AUDACITY OF THEM SAYING THEY DON'T CONDONE ANY TYPE OF DISCRIMINATION BUT THEN WENT FULL BLOWN TALKED ABOUT THE LGBTQ+ COMMUNITY FOR AN HOUR JXOWNSOCNEOWJ I CANNAATT BRUH The prayer after the sermon didn't help either. 💀 Who the hell you tryin to help? If they're straight. They straight. If they are gay. They are gay. That WS was not a healthy way of finding your true identity. Man this church I SWEAR.
ALSO this church is already losing members FAST. The minister said it himself the power of the lgbtq+ community. Like that one comment on this reddit said, they be digging their own grave.
TW Suicide.
Throughout this WS literally suicidal thoughts were coming through my head. I just know that this WS could've affected others even more severely.""If I'm going to hell anyways. Why can't I just go now 🤪. "" Exact quote of what I was saying in my head. Cause you know, INC preaches that committing suicide is a sin. Literally another way of losing members too yikes...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"First theyre bashing at this sub. Now theyre bashing on the LGBT community.
Sounds like theyre trying to piss alot of people
The interesting part is which people theyre targeting next",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"I want to thank the subreddit members who contribute to sharing about INC worship services. Because of it, people like myself who left INC benefit from it; however, the hate is a lot to take. INC thrives and twisted about their pride of hate. They get worse and worse.
I am just glad that I am out of this godforsaken cult. My husband and our children are out. On one hand, I feel for all of you trapped members. This is so disheartening, the spew of hate is so jarring. I am overwhelmed having read about the recent WS hate on LGTBQ. I myself wouldn't be able to sit through an entire WS with the minister spouting on fellow humans that they are subclass due to their sexuality.
I also want to add that for everyone to take care of yourselves. Please try to ignore these lessons. Please continue to stay safe. ❤️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Administration woke up and chose homophobia today ☠️,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Hello everyone,
This is the first time that I am posting here though I've been reading for many years. I attend for my partner so they don't call, text, etc (in other words - harass). You've all given me a preview of what was to he taught today, and I needed to hear it for myself. Today I walked out of the service because I was so angry with the topic for today, and I felt a bit more free. My partner hesitates to leave for many reasons but this is my breaking point. I will not have my kids be part of this any longer.
Wishing you all good health, and positivity!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Some thoughts:
Sex and gender are two different things.
""We don't promote hatred bla bla, HOWEVER,... "" If you would say something like this, please just shut up.
Even pronouns were discussed in this sermon. They were not invented by the lgbtq community lmao
I don't believe in God anymore, so please, I don't care if you all go to heaven and we lgbtq go to hell. We're gonna party there. Y'all be happy without sadness and tears like robots for eternity in heaven idgaf
I wish I were brave enough to fly the lgbtq flag at the choir loft during the sermon lol but I don't wanna get shot and killed. If anyone is brave enough, this would be an excitingly scandalous thing to do.
""Please take care of EVM and his family"" all over again even in the officers' prayer at the end. I swear we pray for him more than we pray for poor people, victims of abuse, war, injustice. Priorities...
Preludes of 30 minutes is too longgggg. Ugh please change this.
Verdict: can't wait to leave this cult. Y'all homophobes and bigots",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"The fucking irony when they said they don’t condone evil doers while they allow pedophiles preying on young members. I was casually typing on the word document to record the verses they used when I received a creepy PM from the TRG. I was horrified for the rest of the service…
Another point they pointed out is how same sex marriage can’t procreate. So, they’re basically saying that the sole purpose of an individual is to make babies and marriage is just a license to do the deed? Bruh. Marriage isn’t JUST about procreation. That’s why a lot of INC marriages are miserable because a lot marry due to pregnancy. You don’t marry for procreation dude. You marry for love. Besides, gender and sex are two different things. If you want to sound more convincing, get your facts straight. Let people marry whoever they love.
Showing support for the LGBTQ community is not part of some political ideology. It’s about equal rights. The right to be themselves without being persecuted. Ah, that’s right, only INC people can experience persecution 🙄.
INC does not advocate for human rights. Ironically, they used coercion as an example of a sin and yet they coerce members to do their bidding. Idolatry was also mentioned. How about hanging up photos of EVM in your offices, or creating calendars out of Manalo family pics, or even better, revering him as the most important person in the world? Doesn’t that make you evil doers that you guys so detest?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Wow is the only thing I can say after that lesson,imagine how many LGBTQ+ People including me listened to that lesson and we're very affected,I certainly was,I was seething in my seat,it's so frustrating to hear
We don't promote hate for this group BUT",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Just one word: __Homophobia__,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"For INC being gay is a Choice.
Hindi ka ipinanganak na bading o tomboy, dahil ginawa ng diyos ang tao na mabuti. Kung ano ano lang kasi ginawa o iniisip mo at nagpatukso ka pa kaya ka naging bading. It is very clear that for INC gayness occurs when you allow temptation.
Pano yung mga bata pa at ignorante pa sa mga bagay sa mundong to pero meron nang feelings towards same gender, or malamya na kumilos, magsalita at puro barbie doll ang nilalaro? Saan banda sila na tukso kaya sila naging bading?
Pano yung mga bata pa they clearly knew na bading sila kasi nagkakacrush sila sa kapwa lalake o babae nang hindi naman sinasadya? San banda yung nagpatukso sila kaya sila naging bading?
Straight people, let me ask you something, sinadya niyo ba na magkaroon ng feelings sa opposite sex? No, It occurs naturally. Pero pag dating sa bading hindi? Na kaya sila nagka gusto sa kapwa laalke at babae dahil nagpatukso sila at kung ano ano ang pinag iisip? When they say you shouldnt be gay, is like saying to a straight person not to be straight. That how it feels I guess.The only choice a homosexuality can do is to either hide his true feelings and deny who he really are or choose to accept himself and be free.But being homosexual, it will never be a choice.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Lmao they're actually hearing us out and trying to mix up the lessons so it doesn't seem repetitive.
With that said that lesson seriously made Midweek tame and tolerant by comparison. The audacity to say ""we do not preach hate"" yet manage to launch tirades against the LGBTQ community, atheists, agnostics, and in essence anyone who isn't INC. I'm straight, but fuck you and everything you stand for, Bien Santiago.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Geez the most weird and unsolemn thing they do is all that wailing. Can they not act with some respect and reverence? To all you OWE lurkers, that is probably the first and biggest hypocrisy that a visitor to one of your WS experiences. You require everyone be so stiff and rigid and then break out in wailing away. A video of it would go viral as a joke about INC if not for your threats to suppress such things. My INC wife is doing WebEx and to hear that crap in the house is cringe material at best. The hypocrisy of it really shows how that the core of this so called religion is false",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"this was some of the most vile, deranged, and disgusting shit ever i've heard from these clowns. I'm really considering reporting my congregation to the RCMP or writing a letter to my local paper for inciting hate. Especially since it seems like their homophobia got dialled to 11 since Canada banned conversion therapy. My diehard OWE parents make me attend with them and I could barely sit still. I couldn't imagine how a gay person or any LGBT human being could feel after hearing that, and I'm sorry to any member of the LGBT community that did have to sit through it. All I could think about was one of my classmates who attempted suicide because of their sexuality. I've never been to a WS purely dedicated to preaching hate and discrimination like that.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,It just goes to show how out of touch this cult is with reality.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"What the fuck. Another video. If they are lazy to make us watch a pre-recorded message, why do we have to dress up and drive ourselves to the chapel so that one of the TSV members can hit play for us. Lazy greedy fucks.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"I am not gay. But still it would have been very frustrating hearing this lesson because to be honest people should have a choice in their lives. We should love and respect one another regardless if we are gay or straight. And yes, they (The INC) can be full of anger and hatred and many times preach with anger. They pride it for sure.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"what an empty, pathetic, stupid, and all around hypocritical take. i'm sure this appeals to the old blood of the INC. to extreme traditionalists you would see unironically holding ""gays go to hell"" at pride parades. in other words, people i don't really care for.
i know some people that are really into social justice while being INC members. i wonder how they feel about this. Or maybe they just didn't listen to this lesson.
fuck. this shit from the admins themselves is for a whole month. i can't wait for more stupid ass takes on social issues or weak defenses against the ""DeTrAcToRs""!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"# [Tagalog HWS Text](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sksorc/weekend_hws_lesson_tagalog/)
**Sermon**
* Title: ""The Basis of Our Beliefs Is Not What Others, Like ""LGBTQ,"" Consider to Be Politically Correct but the Teachings of God in the Bible” *(Grammatically tweaked. Running the title in the Tagalog HWS text through Google Translate produced: ""It Is Not What Others, Like ""LGBTQ,"" Consider to Be Politically Correct the Basis of Our Beliefs but the Teachings of God in the Bible"")*
* Duration: 29 min
* Deadly Themes: Social Media against the Church, The Administration
* [Gen 1:27-28](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gen+1%3A27-28&version=NKJV)
* [Matt 19:4-6](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+19%3A4-6&version=NKJV)
* [Lev 18:22](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Lev+18%3A22&version=NKJV)
* [1 Cor 6:9-10](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Cor+6%3A9-10&version=NKJV)
* [Ps 107:11](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ps+107%3A11&version=NKJV)
* [2 Tim 4:3](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Tim+4%3A3&version=NKJV)
* [John 8:47](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+8%3A47&version=NKJV)
* [Ecc 7:29](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecc+7%3A29&version=NKJV)
* [Jm 1:14-15](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+1%3A14-15&version=NKJV)
* [2 Cor 11:3](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Cor+11%3A3&version=NKJV)
* [Matt 26:41](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+26%3A41&version=NKJV)
* Because the preacher in the English video file withheld all translations, I link to the NKJV of each respective verse since it seems to serve as the ""default"" in the INC.
**Hymns**
* 204: ""I Draw Near with Heart Repentant""
* emotional guilt trip (even in the older revision)
* 164: ""Father, Almighty God""
* 500: ""The Only Proper Response as the LORD's True Chosen Ones""
* how is this supposedly a ""special"" ""hymn""?
* 437: ""To You, Lord Jesus, I Offer My Heart""
* submission
* 436: ""In Your Power, I Believe""
* more submission
* 475: ""A Light and a Beacon""
* obedience
* 293: ""Truly, We Will Be Victorious""
* defend one's calling, don't draw back, yadda yadda…
**Prayers & Approximate Breakdowns**
* Officers' Prayer - 2:41
* Christ and Manalo each get 15 seconds (or about 9.3% of the prayer time)
* Opening Prayer - 6:23
* Christ - :43 (11.2%)
* Manalo - :39 (10.2%)
* *Either I made a mistake or the stopwatch on my phone (or my phone itself) is broken, because somehow the DeArEsT lEaDeR got less mention than the time the minister spent praying to Christ!*
* Closing Prayer - 3:44 *(Why can't the closing prayers in the EVM PPVs be this short? I think the shortest was 7 minutes...)*
* Christ - :25 (11.2%)
* Manalo - :21 (9.4%)
* *(Is time itself broken? Is the administration trying to appease me? Or am I giving them too much credit?)*
* Officers' Prayer - 1:39 \[Estimate only; I dozed off and tried to figure when the prayer started\]
* Christ - :11 (11.1%)
* Manalo - ???
* All I know is that the part for Manalo and all his helpers and whoever started about 28 seconds before the end of the prayer, so his section can't be longer than that.
* *(I guess you can't win 'em all...or maybe time fixed itself \[assuming it was broken earlier\])*
* Total - 14:27
* Christ - 1:34
* If whoever did the final officers' prayer stopped praying for EVM 9 seconds before ending the prayer, then the two ""scores"" would be even at 94 seconds. If the minister praying went any closer, then Manalo would have won...if any of what I just typed even makes sense at this point. I'm just surprised the two scores are actually close to each other.
**Other Comments & Observations**
* For whatever reason, whoever made the video file didn't trim the preludes section, so for the second time in a row, the hymn singing started late (this time by about 3 minutes).
* Total WS Length (including officers' prayer & preludes): 1h27m
* Alternate Title: ""It'S aDaM & eVe, NoT aDaM & sTeVe!""
* Does the Tagalog language not have a translation for ""politically correct""? Does Mr. Santiago simply like ""Taglish"" better?
* What exactly does INC have to gain from this ""lesson"" (barring a feeling of authority)? How is alienating a portion (regardless of its size) of its brethren going to help matters?
* Does the INC not have bigger fish to fry, metaphorically speaking? What about all the money issues and...oh...just about everything EVM has done and continues to do? Oh right, they'll never admit anything mentioned in that last question.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Damn this is hot, my worship service would be in several hours up. I'm hyped to listen about their Hypocrisy.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Pain. PAIN. PAIN!!! This is by far the worst lesson I’ve ever heard on a worship service ever. Sure others have garbage themes but I can at least tolerate them. EVERY. SINGLE. WORD made my heart pound and blood boil. They literally said “We don’t hate anyone. BUT....”. When the lecture started I thought these were just their typical jabs towards the LGBTQ. Normal stuff I‘ve seen multiple times but no. IT’S THE ENTIRE FUCKING LECTURE. And they say that “The LGBT only follow what would make their beliefs correct” or something like that and that “they’ll start hate campaigns when someone misgenders them”. WE’RE NOT THAT IRRATIONAL STOP ASSUMING THINGS ASSHOLES. Their is so much I want to say about this garbage but my brain is just trying to forget it as fast as possible. I thought this would be a regular worship service and I could just start a discussion here as I try to find out why 437’s key signature and lyrics changed. I was having fun singing the hymns especially 436 and 475 but this lesson almost made me go to the bathroom and just bash my head. Let’s just focus on the hymns for now. So does anyone here know why 437’s key signature and lyrics changed? It’s a newer hymn so it’s weird that this happened. Oh also 436 is my favorite song here it was really great. What a terrible, pathetic, and awful way to start the day.
Edit: Oh I forgot, THEY SAID BEING LGBTQ IS AS BAD AS MURDER AND THEFT AND SHOULD BE CRIMINALIZED. NO WONDER WE “fOlLoW wHaT wOuLd MaKe OuR BelIeFS corREct” WE JUST WANT SOME FUCKING RESPECT.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"This certainly blew up as I thought it would.
There are a few things that stood out aside from the obvious.
They said they don't spew hatred or hate any groups...???? What???? Have you guys heard yourselves????
Then they complained about LGBTQ not getting called their proper pronouns, being offended, then launching smear campaigns....???? Hold up, you're complaining about these things when the INC does this???",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Is it just me or Bienvenido Santiago (he was the one who preached, right?) was just outright reading the outline of the lesson throughout the lecture and not really holding a bible?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Bruh I am as gay as it gets... After reading the comments about this hate lesson just pisses me the f'ck off!! Don't think I can sit through this shit without gettin' angry..Bunch of f'ckin' hypocrites!! Pray I'm able to hold my self back from clappin' back some on bitch ass owes!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"If i remember correctly, they haven't had a lesson which focuses mainly
on homosexuality. they would just mention it with regards to how ""evil""
the sanlibutan is and their unchristian way of living - - premarital
sex, vices, alcoholism, live-in partners and such. I think this is the
first time they explicitly mention the lgbt community?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Back from the worship service and I got a bit of audio recorded from it. Would it be fine to share that?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,did anyone post about the INC sermons on r/Philippines? This needs to be exposed to more than just here.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Bakit kailangan ganun? Naubos lahat ng enerhiya ko ngayong araw. Sawang sawa na ako sa mga aral niyo puno ng galit sa iba. Pagkatapos ng leksyon, puro ang topic ng pamilya ko ang kalaswaan ng mga LGBT. Paano pa kaya pag nalaman nila na kasama ako dun (Bi)? Yung isa na kakilala ko pinipilit niya hindi isipin ang totoo niyang gusto. Nakakawalang gana. Di ko alam pano ko kakayanin ang ilan pang taon nakakulong dito. Nakakapagod...
Translation: Why do they have to be like that? This service drained all my energy for the day. I am so tired of lessons that are just on hating others. After this lesson, my family are just talking about how wrong it is to be LGBT. What more if they knew I was part of that group (Bi)? Someone I personally know is even trying to force themseves not to think about who they truly like. I don't know how will I survive being trapped here.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"I have never felt so much rage until today's sermon. As a Bi person, it was so infuriating to hear such shallow justifications against LGBTQ+. It's so obvious that they don't understand the shit they spewed out today. Barely any research or understanding as to why people have been been more accepting on being on who they are or who they wish to love. This really proves that INC has no more empathy towards people outside of their cult.
""Hate campaigns"" my ass, as if INC members have not done the same thing when people criticize INC. Or Maybe they forgot that they've practically been doing the same thing to Catholics ever since this damn cult came into existence. The hypocrisy is absolutely sickening.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Fucking hell where do i start. Where do i START. everyone here said what theyve needed to say but i have such deep seated anger for this god damn lesson in particular oh my god.
im bisexual and a closeted trans-masc person. My family is pretty accepting of LGBT, i have an aunt who's gf lives with us (who is ex-inc but got ex-communicated. gee i sure wonder why.) But fucking hell i fear that this lesson woukd take that acceptance down a few notches. And all because of some fancy god motherfucker in a suit that says that trans women are just men who SAY theyre women and hate crime you when you misgender them. Trust me! I get misgendered CONSTANTLY and despite that ive never had an ounce of anger for those people bc they really just do not know.
What i hate the most isnt even the bigotry - its the fact that theyd rather they share that with (mostly) already closeminded OWEs to justify hate and bigotry. We dont want anything but actual respect!
You say we want something thats against the bible but we just want basic fucking respect! Representation!
I had to leave the church and to the bathroom to escape that load of horse shit. i got yelled at for it and chewed out in the car for it but i rather i have that than have to hear from a ministers mouth that our existence is just as bad as murder and stealing, that people only accept us because thats the politically correct thing to do.
Its angering. Really
But as lighthearted conpensation i did say 'Gay rightss' while i walked out the church. so really, i guess that gives me peace of mind but hrnrhng,,g,g... fuck man. I hate INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Welcome back to the Dark Ages folks! Next thing we know, EVM will be preaching against witchcraft! Oh, no, wait...that won't happen, the Filipino culture is full of superstition! We don't ever see INC admonishing members who indulge in superstitions. EVM probably has his own superstitions, who knows?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"I don't know about you guys, but wailing and crying about how much a man will glorify, adore and submit to his beloved church administrator (on top of making songs about it on YouTube) sounds more queer to me than a guy holding another guy's hand on a date.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"remember that INC uses a book dated from antiquity - a time when sexuality was not understood as it is today - to say that the gays are bad.
looks like i won't listen to this lesson, either. i will get nothing out of it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"created this throwaway account for this service because fuck inc.
i had to leave in the middle of the service. i was hyperventilating and they triggered my anxiety so bad. i am a bisexual woman trapped in this sad excuse for a religion. they almost made me off myself because of their hate. never again.
ONE DAY, THEY WILL BE EXPOSED FOR ALL THE SHIT THEY DO. AND I WILL LAUGH AT THEM JUST LIKE HOW I DID IN 2015.
i wish i didn't have to attend anymore. once i get that darn r2-04 i will fucking burn it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Thank you everyone for commenting about this weekend’s service. Was this a playback? Could we somehow get the video of this service to show the world what this so called religion is doing?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Please do! F'ck these clowns!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Please fucking do it!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Oh sweet irony.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,">Geez, what did the LGBTQ community do to piss the INC admin off?
I wonder the same. Perhaps it's INC themselves in that whoever wrote the lesson, is gay as the day is long.
Often times those who hate LGTBQ are so insecure about their own sexuality that they can't accept that they're gay too!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Cult preaching at it’s Finest to control the weak minded members that are truly brainwashed.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Hey!!! fellow non binary and bisexual person here. trust me its absolutely fucked up and mindboggling. I despised the 'yung gawa gawa nilang pronouns' talk because. HELLO???? GAY PEOPLE DIDNT MAKE PRONOUNS, BABY .... it sucks so bad jfc",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,After ng service talagang hinanap ko tong post na to. Hindi ko alam kung ano maffeel ko I am bi and I have a girlfriend pinipilit ko wag na lang maging affected pero grabe ang sakit pa din talaga. Pakiramdam ko ang sama sama kong tao,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Why can't they just say they're homophobic and move on. Y'all said lying is a sin 😊💕 So just be truthful okayy 💕🥰🥰,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"It's like those saying ""I'm not racist, but....""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,I also had suicidal thoughts during the service. I wanted to kill myself when I got home. Just can’t put my parents through that.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"I had suicidal thoughts last service knowing it'd be an entire month of this bullshit. Haven't performed yet for this weekend but damn I don't want to be in the chapel, much less on the choir loft for this shit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"I'm hoping they target all the other religions next besides the Catholics and Protestants. Particularly the non-Christian ones. Or maybe other cults.
Then everyone will be pissed off at INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,You do realize the more zealous the words are against something the more likely that they are doing it. So given the strong rhetoric there is a strong likelihood that EVM has some LGTBQ tendencies that he is trying to keep secret. Just speaking from decades of watching other past so called ministers peach against LGTBQ and then the big reveal was that they were....,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,And they chose to alienate so many of their members. This will certainly have ramifications in the future. Not in a good way for the cult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,More power to you!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Thanks for sharing. I wish you the same good health and positivity.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Did any deacons or SCAN try to stop you from leaving during the service?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"I'm sorry that you went through that...I had the same response to their service on LGBTQ...it was literally disturbing and upsetting on so many levels for me tbh, so I understand.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Every point you made was the same things that stuck out to me. So much hypocrisy in this lesson and attacking in the WS that it is so un-Christian.
This Cult is a joke run by clowns!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"""sexual gender"" made me cringe so hard,given as my sexuality and gender are two very different things for me,I felt so bad for every other member who had to hear that",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"they mixed everything up in the wrong way. instead of hope, this cult only gives scorn.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"I hate those wailing and I remember too many times that I walked out, stayed in my car and waited for my husband.
I agree, a lot if not all of the members would sit, listen and be stoic and yet, cry-scream-wail (as if they're getting circumcise) during prayers. WHAT THE HELL!
They are bunch of shameful show-offs, as if this can make a visitor join their godforsaken cult. No way! If anything, their stupid wailing is a repellent to outsiders.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Just think of the ministers and their girly screaming as an homage to lgbt pleasure experience.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,I call it a “Oscar Award” winning act!!! These ministers take acting class in the iglesia Ni Christo ministry to learn how to CRY preaching😭😭😭,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,wait...what? Conversion therapy? Could you explain further? Thanks.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"This is my first time in a year I've touched reddit buuuut.
Context, I'm 15 years old son of a minister who's been extremely open minded for the last 3 years(that's a bad trait to have as an INC). I asked my dad why are we doing videos now? Ahem, his answer WAIT FOR IT.
""Just don't ask questions.""
direct quote cause I remember those bullshit words striking my heart. The only thing I hope is that they don't force me to study evangelical ministry and they let me study computer science and become and do what I want I life.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,It's gonna be in this format for the whole month of February. 😪😪,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,I wish someone would upload the sermon to YouTube so that many people will know how the INC spews so much hatred. TSV officers have access to the sermon file and one could put it in a flash drive so easily.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Let's breakdown their lesson because you are only TOLD what you should believe ""using the bible"" so you should expect that whatever is said, is TRUTH.
Only 2 genders created by God.
* **OT: Gen 1:27-28**
* **NT: Matthew 19:4-6**
**RATIONAL THOUGHT OR VERSE REBUTTAL:**
If God creates all babies out there--and of course he's perfect; meaning he doesn't make mistakes--how are 1 in 1000 babies born out there are Intersexed? Meaning they have both male and female genitalia? They have BOTH parts, so if God truly makes babies and he ONLY makes them Male and Female, these two verses are worthless. NEXT!
Lesson continued:
Laying with a man is wrong.
* OT: **Leviticus 18:22**
* NT: **1 Corinthians 6:9-10**
People who do this are rebellious to God.
* **Psalm 107:11**
* **2 Timothy 4:3**
* **John 8:47**
**RATIONAL THOUGHT OR VERSE REBUTTAL:**
This segment of verses are hypocritical because THEY only teach from the bible, what THEY want you to hear. If we keep rolling through Leviticus--there are DOZENS of prohibitions which are wackadoodle--but here are some that God also prohibited that they do not always follow themselves:
* Lev 3:17 - Don't eat fat or blood. (They focus ONLY on the blood part)
* Lev 5:4 - Do not swear oaths (whether they are good or evil)
* Lev 11:4-7 - Cannot eat goat, rabbits, or pig (sorry, no bacon, no lechon, no Kalderetang Kambing)
* Lev 11:10-12 - Cannot eat seafood that is not a fish (crabs, lobsters, eel, clams, squid, oysters, shrimp, or other shellfish!)
* Lev 12:4 - Birthed a boy? Not allowed in church for 33 days
* Lev 12:5 - Birthed a girl? Not allowed in church for 66 days
* Lev 18:19 - Do not have sex with a woman who is menstruating
* Lev 19:18 - Do not seek revenge or hold grudges
* Lev 19:19 - Do not wear fabrics that are made with one or more cloths... (so their suits and barongs are wearable sin!)
* Lev 19:27 - Do not cut the sides of your head or your beard.
* Lev 19:28 - Getting Tattoos (love seeing officers with INC tatts)
* Lev 19:35-36 Do not be dishonest about your measurements (how accurate are the #'s they tout?)
* Lev 20:9 - Speaking ill of your mother or father (EVM expelled his mother)
* Lev 21:16-21 - Discrimination for those with handicaps or defects
* Lev 23:3 - Working on Sabbath
Here are some other fun ones from other parts of the bible.
* Don't mix meat with dairy (Exodus 23:19)
* Don't be a male who is uncircumcised (Genesis 17:14)
* Don't speak in church if you're a woman (1 Corinthians 14:34-35)
* Don't wear jewelry, nice clothes, or elaborate hairstyles if you're a woman (1 Timothy 2:9)
* Don't pray with your head uncovered if you're a woman (1 Corinthians 11:5-6)
I can guarantee many of these happen in the INC. They love to eat lechon, shellfish, officers have tattoos even AFTER joining as a member, officers are not allowed to have facial hair or appear bald (balding ministers are required to wear a hair piece - EVM's hair gets bigger and bigger every year!)
Going back to the verses used:
* They seem to also be rebellious to God.
* They only preach what is convenient to them or what they WANT to hear.
If they tout the ""bible is very clear as you can see in the verse"" then THESE verses should be followed... but as THEY claim LGBT and those who support them are ""not of God"" they should also lump themselves in that same category.
In fact, there are over 600 specifically ""God-breathed"" prohibitions and commandments in the bible. But, as they love to preach in: James 2:10 : *""You might follow all of God’s law. But if you fail to obey only one command, you are guilty of breaking all the commands in that law.""*
GUILTY! NEXT PART!!!
Lesson continued:
BORN THIS WAY IS WRONG BECAUSE GOD MADE MAN UPRIGHT ONLY
**Ecclesiastes 7:29**
People only become gay because they are tempted to do so...
**James 1:14-15**
**RATIONAL THOUGHT OR VERSE REBUTTAL**
We go back to their belief the ""God has done this... like making Male and Female only"" argument. They say God makes humans ""upright"" and because they were deceived, they changed. They say that God is incapable of making the mistake of ""making someone gay""... we already mentioned the case of people born as Intersexed (male and female parts), let's add biblical verses here that run counter to their claim.
* Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.
* Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the plans that I have for you,' declares the Lord, 'plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope.
* Proverbs 16:4 The Lord has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil.
* The wicked are estranged from the womb
In these verses--there are more--we can see that whatever is going on, God caused it. It's not that people ""went away"" from God, it was pre-destined. Check this verse, spoken by Jesus Christ himself:
**Matthew 19:12** For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it.
Some are **Eunuchs from BIRTH! Meaning, they were BORN this way!** Even a member of INC cannot argue with what Jesus Christ says, right?! Thanks JESUS! NEXT!!!
Lesson continued:
**2 Corinthians 11:3**
Homophobic chant: ""We need to be more prayerful now, cause LGBT are everywhere!""
**Matthew 26:41**
**RATIONAL THOUGHT OR VERSE REBUTTAL:**
Their feel-good ending. Be on guard because gay people are everywhere! Pray for everyone!
Systematically, we debunked all their verses not just with rational thought, but with the bible itself and the verses cited are plain as f\*cking day.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"My guess is INC is responding to Pope Francis’ vocal love and support for the LGBTQ community. They want to appear as the supposedly more biblical vs the “demonic” Roman Catholic Church.
Note: was never INC - just too familiar with their doctrine by way of connections and almost joining the INC. I dont identify 100% as an RCC as well but INC keeps on insisting that RCC praises the Pope but let me tell you….While there are protocols in meeting the Pope and a high reverence of the Pope (most of the time), I don’t think there is a Catholic Hymn or Worship Song that is for and about the Pope. Catholics pray for the Pope during mass but along with a whole list of petitions and prayers. Catholics dont emphasize following “Vatican” like INC does. Lastly, the Popes are chosen by way of a very stringent conclave and Popes can come
From anywhere and from any family not from a single family (ahem) so it really makes me laugh how INC paints RCC as a cult. LOL",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,So much hypocrisy in this one.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,The previous key signature was a bit too high. They lowered it for more comfortable singing. They removed the coda and changed some lyrics because the hymn was probably too long.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,The pot calling the kettle black.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,">Then they complained about LGBTQ not getting called their proper pronouns, being offended, then launching smear campaigns....???? Hold up, you're complaining about these things when the INC does this???
when they do it it's hate, but when we do it it's the right thing to do, ordained by god
hey INC, reality check, this isn't the fucking crusades. if I wanted to do a holy war, i'd stick to video games.
and in case anyone forgot, this is the same church that preaches unity, run by a man who expels his own mother and brother from that same church. and the INC has the balls (or maybe, just no brains) to say that EVM loves us all and will guide us to heaven.
whatever.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Yep! I noticed that! The only time the hold the bible is when their guideline thing tells them to, probably LOL",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,I thought it was a talking potato.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,They might sue you for it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,SHARE IT.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Yes. But it only got few votes.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Oh yeah one more thing. Dami kong kakilalang kaanib (OWE) pa rin na kasing edad ko na ""politically correct"" at accepting pa sa mga tao. So kamusta naman kayo guys? Hush hush na lang? Huwag na magingay or magisip kasi sabi ng pamamahala? Kung sakali nandito kayo, alam niyo naman na mali ang ganitong homophobic na pananaw diba?
Translation: Oh yeah one more thing. I know several members (OWE) around my age who are ""politically correct"" and accepting to others. Hi, how are you feeling? Staying quiet? Trying not think about it because you are ordered by the administration? If you guys are reading this, I know you are aware that being homophobic is wrong right?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Also no empathy towards their own members too.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"I'm glad you walked out. Let them (the ministers) get angry, in fact they are often angry. I also hope you did not give any offerings.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"I cant wait until my wife and I get away from INCult. We're just staying for the sake of our parents. But for the INCult members who are LBTQ+, wouldnt this lesson be the best way to leave this cult? They themselves basically said u wont be saved even if u are a member. So if that's the case, why still stay? Good job INCult for shooting urself in the foot.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Ive beeeeeen saying this. Check my post history.
Its literal homoerotic screams of submission to a male leader.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Tell me about it because I think it’s worse. INCs crying and waiting always disturbed me no matter what the lessons were (when I was still a member). I used to leave the chapel and stayed in my car. Often times some deacon would follow me and asked what was wrong to which I would mumble that I wasn’t feeling well. Hate has always been INC’s staple and I’m not used to it. It always made me uncomfortable.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Sorry that they made u feel that way. IMO INCult shot themselves in the foot through this lesson. They themselves are saying if ur LGBTQ+ you wont be saved even if ur an INCult member.
So if that's the case why stay? Heck why are they still allowing you to stay? Such hypocrites!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"audio, at least",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Some of our reddit members have the video file. But they're afraid of getting sued or hunted down if they upload it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Exactly someone high up in INC is a LGBTQ. I say it is EVM,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"YES DUDE THAT PISSED ME OFF SO FUCKING MUCH. like did you not go to 2nd grade? the lgbtq community didnt invent pronouns, everyone has their preferred pronouns. im pretty sure if i called EVM a woman, the administration would simply shoot me",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,I hope your mental state has calmed down. It was a really destructive place to be in and listen. Just know you can get away from church other than that.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Same,I missed ensayo for my mom's birthday and thank God I did cause I don't know what I would've done if I couldn't go to the bathroom to vent off steam",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,They just gotta have balls to do it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"One person asked where I was going on my way out, and I just replied, ""My head hurts. I need to leave"" as I opened the doors to exit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Canada recently came thru and banned conversion therapy. It's the practice of putting members of the LGBT community through forms of therapy with the hopes of turning them back into non-LGBT people. The ""therapy"" part of it is just a twisted euphemism, as it isn't actually therapy but instead verbally abusing and manipulating queer people. Sometimes people who practice it even place the ""patient"" in medical or drug induced treatments to achieve the results they want. It doesn't work because there's no science behind it, and the people who are victims of it experience higher rates of suicide and mental illness.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,I’m so sorry about your situation. I hope you stay strong mentally. Your parents can’t force you to do something you do not want to do.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Welcome. Not surprised. Obey and never complain.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Can confirm this. Don't ask questions, don't talk about it. Obey and be grateful :(",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Haha As EVM took over, WebEx or Video Streaming services have become almost the norm and his services are NOT what is supposed to be taught on the day of service--he makes up his own sh\*t when he preaches. Where's the supposed UNITY they tout when they say ""it doesn't matter where you go, it will always be the same lesson taught""??? I got in a heated argument with the resident minister at the time when we had almost 5 EVM sermons in a row and asked, ""We seem to have a lot of these now, why do we need ministers? He (EVM) is supposedly the anointed one and we have the technology, why can't he just preach every worship service instead of you guys? Then you can focus on bible studies only."" Yeah, he didn't like that idea. But seriously. Why don't they just do that if his words are the most important and he doesn't even follow his own lesson outlines he makes ministers preach!?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Thanks for the update.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,And it's gonna suck...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"It would be the uproar of the century! If they thought the protests for when EVM's mother and brother getting expelled were a nuisance, they would be f\*cked when messing with human rights, LGBTQ rights, and the way they heavy-handedly said ALL of this is not condoned or supported by them.
I have a copy of the English version of the video but as FourthMonado mentioned, the legal issues of posting it would be almost as bad as posting something from Disney!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,too risky. too many legal issues.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"That’s weird because if 437 is too long. 191 has THREE 8-line stanzas + coda and recently, they’ve been playing it slowly.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,That’s really my only concern. If I could put it through a media fire link and then convert the link maybe it can’t be traced back,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Lol like how the minister said that the LGBTQ community will sue you for using the wrong pronoun. Hypocrites!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,I dont offer ! and i havent been for months now. that five peso coin gets tucked riiight in my cabinet for safe keeping :) ♡♡♡,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Great (and free) minds think alike ;),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,If someone has the audio of it please send me direct. I’ll get it posted somehow.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"They should remove the meta data of the audio or video file. I think they could use ffmeg for removing meta data in videos. Then, they could upload the file in a site that offers anonymously uploading.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Have them give to me in a direct message.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"HEHAHAHAH HELDPDHBFDHKDJKS
I use they / them alongside a few neopronouns and honestly if anyone were to call me anything other than that i would not go out of my way to plan a smear campaign.... why do they insist on demonizing the gays when like. half the philippines has at least a 8:1 straight person : gay person ratio ... have you not SEEN this fucking country..???",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"They're the ""One true church"" right? What are they afraid of?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,u/Rauffenburg please help. How can we do this safely?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,I agree. Long hymns are so boring,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,....but didn't Joe Ventilation said that they're not into grammar?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Oh please let us know when you do.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,u/trey-rey has a copy of the full English video,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,i literally don’t even care anymore when people misgender me yet the INC truly believes we’ll start ww3 if we get misgendered. AND YEAH THE PHILIPPINES IS LITERALLY FULLLL OF GAY PEOPLE. fuck this cult fr,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"YEAH!!!!! ITS SO STUPID....
what i hate abt it the most is the fact that. they dont need to say any of this. they dont need to outwardly hate on gay people / detract those who do. the filipino is a queer landmine i have at least 4 family members that i know is queer but somehow inc wants to suck their own dick and spout homophobic shit. who does that HELP? that doesnt help god - that doesnt help *Jesus* and it doesnt even help their case because WHAT BENEFIT DO YOU GET FROM BEING AN OPENLY HOMOPHOBIC CULT?? IN A *HALF QUEER COUNTRY.*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,Also kind of fruity of OWE ministers to openly worship the manalos and the ground he stands in .. why are you.... as a man.... worshipping another man and calling him the savior of the earth?? kinda gay man idk,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"THAT FUCKING PART. this is why they’re losing so many members now. the younger generation can’t take their shit anymore because welllll a lot of us are queer. in the philippines, in america, EVERY MF WHERE",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,hella fucking gay. they suck his dick dry and worship him more than God himself,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"Omg maybe theyre trying to fuckin detract the straights / OWEs from the gays bc they know too much... ouhhhh diversity win, the gays are destroying a cult ♡♡♡ (/hj)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"They cry for manalo more than they cry for jesus its so fucking funny but also..?? AYO???? youre over here telling us the queers are sinning and in the same vain, you're kissing a crusty ass 40 (50?) yr olds hand and yearning for his touch. OWE ministers down BAD",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,FRRRR. they only do the “AMAAAAAA” and take a pause to weep when its their daddy eddy preaching. but with a regular service everyone sounds dead inside. every minister is closeted and wants to suck his dick so badly thats why they’re homophobic to the public 😍😍,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 04 - Feb 07, 2022)",skfahc,2022-02-04,"headcanon: eduardo is a closeted gay man and thats why he wants more ministers so he can hear them yell his name.... fruity bitch, we see u!!!!! 😶😶",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/skfahc/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_04_feb_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,">Ang Dapat nating pakinggan at maging influencer sa ating buhay
LMAO influencers are usually paid for their content, it's why they're called *collaborations*. Tell me, u/Rauffenburg, are we paid for posting in this sub?
INC out here trying so hard to be ""relatable"" and using ""common internet terms""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"Since the lesson for today is about ""influencers,"" I imagine EVM vlogging ""A Day in My Life"" or ""What's in My Bag""-style.
""Hey guys, check out my newly-bought Airbus A330, complete with all the luxurious amenities, all-reclining chairs, a conference room, and a quaint bedroom, and it's all thanks to you, my dear sheep [insert laugh track here], I mean brethren in the Church.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"* That **definitely** wasn't Edwil Zabala
* I don't disagree that most ""influencers"" out there are garbage, and that adolescents are pretty susceptible to bullshit. **However, actual reliable personalities use facts, not opinions.** No amount of Bible-thumping can challenge that
* Why the ever-loving fuck would I listen to a religious leader telling me to vote for a convicted criminal with zero qualifications for public office, over some random shmuck who just tells me not to support thieves?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"My view of todays ws:
1. Sino ba ang mga pinatatamaang influencers? Masyadong broad ang lesson para maunawaan kung ano/sino ang tinutukoy
2. Dont forget to like, share and subscribe ba? Ah gets ko na? Upon seeing the data in FB inc media page, mas marami pa nga naman ang shares and likes ng mga influencers kesa FB page ng mga InCult media pages, gusto din ata mag trending haha. Mas gugustuhin ko na lang din magshare ng mga good deeds ng mga influencers kesa mag share ng inc content...
2. Rgarding naman sa usaping moral, since ang target bracket ay age 13-19 (i guess?) na sinabi sa teksto SINCE NA ITO AY USAPING MORAL siguro pwede nyo nang ibalato yan sa mga values education teachers/subjects/Magulang nila? kase usaping moral naman yan at mag focus na lang ang inc sa spiritual tutal ang good deeds lang naman sa inc ay maghandog at mag misyon BIHIRA naman ako makarinig sa mga teksto na maging mabuti sa kapwa.
3. Teachers are also influencers, kapag sinabi ko sa klase ko na ang OPISYAL NA SIMULA NG WW1 ay July 28, 1914 at may mga proofs ako na yun ang simula... so cancel na ba natin si sir/mam kase taliwas sa sinasabi ng PamAMaHaLa? Haha...
4. Next time, wag masyadong malawak ang pagteteksto, nagrarambol rambol din kase kaya nakakalito kung ano ba talaga tinutumbok, dapat focus lang sila... kung may pinatatamaan man sila sabihin na nila... TULAD NOON nung PNK days ko, itinagubilin pa na huwag tangkilikin ang mga kanta ni jamie rivera dahil puro catholic songs ang kinakanta (ewan ko kung naalala pa ito ng mga 90's at 80's nating mga friends dito...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"All this influencer talk, how we should only be influenced by God. It was so blatantly obvious it was going to then transition to those placed by God > Administration > “Beloved” Eduardo V Manalo. I was like cut to the chase already, we all know the ultimate influencer they’re going to mention is our “beloved” executive minister.
At one point, the minister actually encouraged us to examine the source of these influencers. 😂 once again they told us not to follow man 🤡. Damn I guess EVM is on Jesus level apparently
Also at the end, minister literally said verbatim ""If we truly want what is best for the members for our family, then let us unite with Eduardo v Manalo”.
WTF.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"[**Link to Tagalog HWS Text**](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sob3fo/midweek_lesson_for_feb910_tagalog_version/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
**Sermon**
* Topic: The INC-Recognized Influencer
* Deadly Themes
* Social Media against the Church
* The Administration (mentioned numerous times)
* [Isaiah 48:12, 17-18](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+48%3A12%2C+17-18&version=NKJV)
* Tagalog text cites the [Magandang Balita Biblia (MB)](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa+48%3A12%2C+17-18&version=MBBTAG) translation
* [Psalm 139: 13, 16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+139%3A+13%2C+16&version=NKJV)
* [Tagalog: MB](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ps+139%3A13%2C+16&version=MBBTAG)
* [2 Timothy 3:15-17](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+3%3A15-17&version=NKJV)
* [Tagalog: MB](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+3%3A15-17&version=MBBTAG)
* [John 3:34](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3%3A34&version=NKJV)
* [Tagalog: MB](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3%3A34&version=MBBTAG)
* [Colossians 1:25](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+1%3A25&version=NKJV)
* Tagalog text does not cite a translation
* [James 4:12, 14, 16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+4%3A12%2C+14%2C+16&version=NKJV)
* [Tagalog: MB](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+4%3A12%2C+14%2C+16&version=MBBTAG)
* [Ecclesiastes 9:11](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+9%3A11&version=NKJV)
* [Tagalog: MB](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+9%3A11&version=MBBTAG)
* [1 Corinthians 2:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+9%3A11&version=MSG) (The Message translation)
* Barring Col. 1:25, this is the only verse this WS not to use the MB translation
* [Psalm 119:18-19, 24, 36-37](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+119%3A18-19%2C+24%2C+36-37&version=NKJV)
* [Tagalog: MB](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+119%3A18-19%2C+24%2C+36-37&version=MBBTAG)
**Non-Hymns**
* 192: ""Worship Our Lord God""
* slow lecture hymn
* 314: ""You Are Indeed the One True God""
* includes self-serving lyrics about the church
* (If the title is true, then why all the reverence of the admin and especially the Manalos?)
* 442: ""Steadfast, We Will Stand on Your Love and Words""
* obedience ""hymn""
* 402: ""There Will Never Be Room for Doubt""
* title!
* Third stanza: *""To You, we'll always listen, Father dear,/And not to those who've turned to wickedness...""*
* 486: ""O ~~EVM~~ Father, Willingly, I Offer You My ~~Cash~~ Heart""
* submission/obedience ""hymn""
* 398: ""Hold on to the Words of God""
* Despite the title, this lecture non-hymn on obedience includes a shoutout to the Messenger and Administration (yes, capitalized)!
**My Comments/Observations**
* Even though the minister claims God should be a believer's influencer, it's clear he means EVM should be.
* Yet again, the minister encourages parents to monitor their children and condition them into accepting and remaining in their INC duty/ies. Hmm...just last week, did the minister that week not insist, ""We'Re NoT a CuLt""?
**Stray Thoughts/Just for Fun!**
* How in the heck can 9 cherry-picked selections of the Bible require this much explanation?
* I assume fast preachers do not exist in the higher ranks of the INC ministry (if it can even be called that). Or they do, but they either drag out the sermon for appearance's sake or simply are never chosen for video services.
* I guess Central has a bunch of defective, oversized record players, considering all these ministers that seem to enjoy imitating broken records.
* I thought February was supposed to be the shortest month, yet all these mock-PPVs are making it drag...
* I didn't time anything this go-around. Except...
* At least the hymns started a little early this time as opposed to 3-5 minutes late (Anything to get me outta there even slightly quicker!).
* Don't you just love four-minute ""hymns"" (402)? Did that hymn really need FOUR stanzas?
* Whose idea was it to write a unison part that goes up to F5 (F4 for tenor/bass) in 442? Whoever you are, you do realize there are these people called “altos” and “basses,” right?
Edit: added bullet point in last section; a letter",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"So basically, only listen to EVM or the INC. You should always do your own research for other influencers, but not for the INC because they're always correct.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"Wow, the more they try hard to be ""modern"" the more cringe it gets!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"HAHAHAHAHAH pagsamba pa pala yung pinapanood ko akala ko try not to laugh challenge. Hindi ba nila narerealize na sobrang applicable sa kanila yung mga binabasa nilang ""masama""? Huwag raw magpapadala sa mga influencer cuz god is the best influencer 🥺🙏😘 Lalo na raw at baka gamitan sila ng apPeal to EmoTioN,,, sino kaya tong mga toh na umiiyak at sumisigaw habang nagbabasa ng cherry picked verses with the intention to induce fear, guilt, and making non-members look so bad. Sino kaya ang gumagamit nito? 🤔 Lalo na raw sa mga magulang, bantayan ang mga adolescents kasi sila ang madaling impluwensiyahan. Ha, eh sino kayang nagtatarget sa mga young, poor, uneducated, and hopeless children para ipasok sa church? Great manipulation!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA fucking hypocrites 🥺🥺🥺",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,It's going to be another one of those videos similar to last week's. Should we take a guess on the topic?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,So much cringe. Soon they will call inc: church of cringe,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"Does anyone else also think this lesson could be a smidge politically motivated? Since a lot of celebrities and *influencers* have been speaking out lately about their favored candidate...
> Monitor your children, especially those adolescents aged 10-19 as they are going through the stage of finding their identity smth smth Family Hour™ is important
Lol they have got to be aware how a lot of INC youth are very likely to leave the church in the future. The easy access to social media, and consequently, western and more liberal concepts have indeed *influenced* many teens today. It's only a matter of time and exposure until they wake up from INC's old-fashioned doctrines.
> Instead of liking and sharing those social media influencers' posts, wouldn't it be better to like and share the posts of INC official media pages and share the correct teachings of ~~EVM~~Lord God?
They actually went out and said it lmao. I feel like they've only been using videos recently. What are the designated ministers of each locale supposed to do now though?
Also, maybe it's just me since I don't really listen that much, but why do I barely hear about Jesus and his stories during these lectures?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"Sounds like EVM is getting jealous and wants a piece of that Influencer fame by stepping on them and promoting himself using his minions.
Minister keeps saying not to listen to your fellow man, isn't EVM also a fellow man or...do you think they consider him a God now?
And there they go again telling us what not to like and share and to like and share their propaganda instead.
A cringefest...as expected.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"I recently had a debate with a friend of mine (who is a die-hard INC) regarding the bloc voting done in the Philippines. She keeps on telling me not to listen to other people except to the ministers because they are ""servants of God"". Upon hearing the lecture last night, I couldn't help but laugh. I know very well that this friend whom I had a debate with will eventually lecture me again. And I was right.💀 Damn these ""all-knowing and saint-like"" believers.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"i was hoping this would be just one of those very boomer lessons, but *nooooooooooooooo.*
man literally said we should be influenced by EVM and that we need to listen to EVM. that we should please EVM - yes, not God or Jesus.
and as you can tell by my flair, i am not particularly supportive of the current regime.
contrary to what everyone says here, I do not believe this was aimed at the young people despite what the lesson actually says. I think this was actually aimed at the older members who think being keyboard warriors is like going on some crusade. They literally said don't share anything against the will of the administration. I'm assuming this means they should stop interacting with anything detractor related - such as Rauffenberg on FB.
speaking of older members - and because they mentioned this in the lesson - at some point we'll get a lesson telling parents' to closely monitor and control their children's behaviors. probably to the point where they will explicitly tell people to invade their children's privacy. i'm counting on it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,The lesson was very shallow and no substance. I would rather listen to Dustin from smartereveryday rather listening to the minister's sermon which will make you dumbereveryday. Don't get me wrong. I read the bible but I just can't handle the minister's explanation and yelling. The greatest influencers to the INC members are right there on the podium so EVM shouldn't blame the members if they've lost their logic and moral values.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"I'm reacting live) I'm in the technical room and I'm laughing my ass off quietly rn. There are 2 things I found so funny
""HUWAG KAYONG MAKINIG SA INYONG KAPWA"" that's so funny. They are so desperate.
They said a verse I forgot what it was but it was like ""sapagkat hindi ma alam kung ano ang mangyayari bukas"" like wtf does that have to do with anything? 😂.
Omg his fake face looks so stupid it looks like he's smiling while pretending to have tears.
(sorry if I reposted this multiple times got confused where to put this)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,What an awfully boring lesson. I didn't listen much. Lol I heard so many deep sighs of boredom around me. I remember the year-end Thanksgiving circular about urging members to follow the official INC TikTok. Cringe. I was trying not to chuckle under my mask 🤭,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,The lesson is fine. Basic “don’t be too easily influenced” lesson with some sprinkles of hypocrisy when they say don’t blindly follow influencers but always follow our all mighty Manalo- I mean god. 442 and 402 are bangers that are among my favorites and they‘re the standouts of this entire thing considering everything else was so forgettable.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,video na naman tangina,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"They say we should examine the basis of what 'influencers' say, how about we examine the basis of INC's says.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"My God, was that Edwil Zabala preaching? He gained pandemic weight and his hair went full old, the church really did him in, didn't they?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,KUULLLTTTOOOOOO,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"Was there WS yesterday? I think it's Feb 09 – Feb 10, 2022.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"Re-watching this lesson and am laughing that they used these verses:
**Psalm 139:13,16**
>You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. You saw me before I was born. The days allotted to me had all been recorded in your book, before any of them ever began.
AND his explanation--verbatim--was:
>*Why will those who listen to the lord god, who allow the lord god to be the influencer in their lives, why are they certain to receive blessings and victories continuously in their life?*
>
>*Because, based on what we read, this servant of the lord god said, ""You created every part of me."" And not only are we ALL creations of our lord god.* ***Based on what we read, the lord god already knows the life span of each one of us. And because the lord god already knows each one of us, created each one of us****. We should* ***remember, brethren, that he controls every aspect of our life. He knows everything about us. And that includes even those people we admire.***
>
>*Those internet personalities. Commonly branded as ""influencers""!* ***The lord god created them! The lord god knows their lifespan as well!*** *And because of that, who knows more? What is good for us? Who can assure us of victories, of blessings, of good things? Not these influencers. Not these internet personalities. Rather, what they know--let's remember this--what they know can never surpass the knowledge of the lord god who created us.*
So all of us, including them, ALL of us should listen to what the lord god teaches. All of us should accept as our influencer, the lord god who created us.
Of course--with BITE method--people are still being controlled as to what Information and Thoughts they should have with how he read it and explained it. Anyone should just ask the ONE question that is still left on the table after hearing this verse and explanation: If god TRULY created us and knows every detail of our lives, why do I have to join or attend WS?
Really, what IS the point of inviting people if God--supposedly--already KNOWS who is his, who is going to join, and WHEN they will join? If god controls EVERY ASPECT OF OUR LIVES, he knows we are reading this Subreddit because he made this happen. If he knows all these things, no one needs to invite like crazy, right? No one should be punished for not inviting or for not bearing ""fruit"", right?
Furthermore, as his explanation unraveled and said: *""The lord god created them! The lord god knows their lifespan as well.""* Should not the same rules apply? Which runs completely counter to their lesson where they bashed the LGBT community and that *""No one is born that way."" ""They turned away from God with their sinful ways of life.""* **BS** These verses and this explanation from their minister says, *""God created them. God knows and controls every aspect of their life too.""* Ergo, God made them LGBTQ+. Just like he made me straight. Just like he made influencers who are influencing their children to question their blind faith.
If you are an INC member, here are some other verses that should tell you that ""intensive propagation"" is not needed because God ""already knows who is his"" and is the one placing people. Don't be blinded when the ministers say *""well, you are the instrument who brought them into the church.""* no, no, no... According to these verses, God knows and pre-destined everyone and everything. He does the work, who can hinder it?
* 1 Corinthians 12:18,
* Proverbs 16:4,
* Acts 4:28,
* Revelation 17:17,
* Psalm 94:11,
* Jeremiah 29:11,
* Isaiah 43:13,
* Isaiah 14:27,
* 1 Thessalonians 5:23, 24,
* Romans 8:28-32,
* Romans 11:1-36,
* Jeremiah 1:5, 2
* Timothy 2:19
Another verse that stuck with me was:
**Ecclesiastes 9:11**
>I realized another thing, that in this world fast runners do not always win the races, and the brave do not always win the battles. The wise do not always earn a living, intelligent people do not always get rich, and capable people do not always rise to high positions. **Bad luck happens to everyone**.
""Bad luck"" happens? Really? We shouldn't trust in someone who is strong, brave, wise, capable, or intelligent because ""bad luck"" happens to ALL people and they may experience it too? Are we NOT talking about the bible and God anymore? Luck is the phenomenon and belief that defines the experience of notably positive, negative, or improbable events. It's CHANCE!
Going back to the verse mentioned earlier, God already knows whats going to happen and luck--being a superstitious belief--should NOT be used as a basis for one's faith. SMH when they used this as a basis for why God and EVM should be the influencer in people's lives.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,">Sino ba ang mga pinatatamaang influencers? Masyadong broad ang lesson para maunawaan kung ano/sino ang tinutukoy
Probably progressives. Hindi na kasi tumutumpak ang kabataan sa conservative values like in the past.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,">2. Dont forget to like, share and subscribe ba? Ah gets ko na? Upon seeing the data in FB inc media page, mas marami pa nga naman ang shares and likes ng mga influencers kesa FB page ng mga InCult media pages, gusto din ata mag trending haha.
Officers in the CWS are required to watch CFO news every day.💀 They keep on instructing us to like, comment, and share the videos to show ""pagsunod at pagpapasakop sa namamahala"". Jeez. Annoying shit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,I'm not following how a narcissist with a dysfunctional family who ran a corporation into a ditch with hundred million dollar loans should be someone that I'm influenced by.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,Are you guys in NCR? Is there f2f already here? I'm being hounded by my folks.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,Your work never goes underappreciated. Thanks for putting these together each time.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08," No need to guess.
Title: Ang Dapat nating pakinggan at maging influencer sa ating buhay
What (or who) we should listen to and be an influencer in our lives
Social Media and Detractors; Obedience to Church Administration",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,Should be Racism,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,Apparently it's at least the next 4 BS. Probably end with a PPV from Lord EVM the Fat,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,Jesus Christ’s Gospel will truly dethrone the Felix and Eduardo Manalo prophecy. The members will know the truth of Jesus Christ’s Gospel instead of the BIG LIE they have been brainwashed with.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"Maybe, but I also think its a direct attack on this forum. They are concerned about the number of members here and the losses they are suffering.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"Come to think of it, even the preaching minister is just a fellow man so does that mean that we shouldn't be listening to him too?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"If EVM is so insecure about socmed influencers, he should just join the bandwagon and do TikTok.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"INC members are too confident to think that they can debate with anyone (based on my experience just wanna share) just because they read or heard the lectures ministers preach on WS but in reality when you go into a debate with them they'll just troll you and give you out of context bible verses.
Not to mention their trump card
""Talk to a Minister""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,*There's an official INC TikTok?*,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,video yan whole month boi,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,Guy tell us what the lesson was about.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,It's not Edwil Zabala.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,I thought inc members don’t believe in luck? 🤷♂️,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"Sad to say, unti unti nawawala ang conservative values sa mga kabataan, mabilis maka cope ang mga kabataan ngayon sa mga bagay bagay nakakalungkot lang",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,Nakakaumay na yan pamamahala na yan,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,My pleasure :D,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"that sounds so cringe lmao!
What a lame attempt at pandering to the youth",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,Let me guess - Lord EVM the Fat !!!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,Sounds like it's going to be a cringefest lesson...ugghhh.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"Jesus Christ’s and his Gospel is the greatest influence that CHRISTIANS should have. God sent Jesus Christ for us all to know his Gospel. It’s not about a membership nor being a member of a church, or knowing a false prophecy like Felix Manalo. It’s brainwashing conditioning at it’s Finest when it comes to the iglesia Ni Christo Administration",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,iNC iglesia na cringe,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,I cant believe their IQ can still go lower from the all time low that it already is. Damn!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"Oh god, YES!!! At the end of the conversation, she eventually told me to ""consult a minister"" and she would even willingly go with me. Ugh. Annoying.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,Something like weareincpc cause their INC production company. They announced it in a WS with their instagram not too long ago.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,Yes. Right after they said do not follow those on social media. It’s very hypocritical. They’re again digging their own grave.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,LOL imaging what else people (and kids) have to scroll through before they get to some INC tiktoks!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"I’m using these video worship services to learn sign language. I just watch the sign language person on the bottom left screen. So far, I’ve learned how to sign god, Bible and child.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,It’s a rather broad yet lame take on social media influencers.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,">Sad to say, unti unti nawawala ang conservative values sa mga kabataan
Why is it sad, by any means? Contrary to what many people think (including INC diehards), conservatism holds no monopoly over the concept of good manners and right conduct.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"LMAO half of the ""influencers"" I see on Filipino social media are pure ass anyway, I don't need anyone to tell me that they shouldn't be fully trusted. INC's just here making it worse",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"...with prayers by Matt Pareja, the gay opera singer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,INC is full of miracles 😂😂😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,Tell her to watch LJ Caraangs YouTube videos 👍🏻,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,"I've... never actually heard of that, nor seen ministers and officers selling it to the *Kadiwa-Binhi* membership.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 08 - Feb 10, 2022)",snm8t5,2022-02-08,Wasn't he expelled though? lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/snm8t5/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_08_feb_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Theme: Social Media against the church
Here's my ""spritually immature fit"" as per INC.
They tell us to bring our concerns to the church administration. I already know how this will go. I go to them and ask questions, they ostracize me then try to answer my question. And if they couldn't find an answer, they character assassinate me maybe even expel me and tell everyone to shun me like how EVM did to his mother and brother. So no, I'd rather ""throw a fit"" here where I'm free to speak my thoughts freely and anonymously. What they said there is obviously a trap and I know better than to fall for it.
INC says ""We don't blindly obey"", proceeds to promote blind obedience.
INC again denies being a cult and a bigot. But then shows that they are a cult and a bigot.
Next time INC, please mention reddit and this sub and tell us members not to visit here. Maybe it will work this time.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"While this whole service was hypocritical, the part that was particularly hypocritical--because they called out this subreddit--was when the minister said, ""They even argue that members are not allowed to have free thought. That members follow blindly.""
Then went on and on about how they supposedly *don't* blindly follow, and members have a ""choice in how they respond to what they hear in the WS"" THEN!!!! goes on to read some verses about HOW members should respond; particularly Psalm 119:30 ""Where I have CHOSEN to FOLLOW the ADMINISTRATION."" and that it is the Administration that TEACHES Gods words which should be followed (blindly).
This is NOT free thinking!!
If you have a question about faith and the minister TELLS you what you should believe because that is what the Administration says--regardless if it didnt come from the bible at all--**THAT is Thought Control.**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Here's what I think after several lectures with almost the same ideas: INC is very much scared of the social media.
Maybe they're scared because a lot of people are already knowing the truth and their cult is already being exposed. So they proceed to more brainwashing and guilt-tripping techniques.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Title: Sundin natin ang itinuturo ng Biblia, hindi ng kung sinoman sa social media, upang makatiyak tayo na wasto at tama ang ating gagawin
Let's follow the teachings written in the Bible, not that of anyone in social media, so that we can be sure what we are doing is right",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Unrelated to this weekend’s worship service but I was able to upload the audio from last weekend’s worship service.
I forgot to add but this link will only last for 14 days
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/l4w1q44p1cg73/to_stop_from_getting_sued",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,Any possibility out there to invite nonmember influencers so they can expose these insane doctrines without being held liable for violating copyright rules? All their followers might look up “Iglesia Ni Cristo apostates” or “Sebastian Rauffenburg” and they’ll stumble upon this Reddit page. It would be so easy!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"**Sermon**
* Deadly Theme: Social Media
* Prov 3:5-6
* Gen 4:7
* Prov 4:26-27
* Prov 60:17
* Rom 12:2
* Ps 26:11
* Ps 119:30
* (Mention of The Administration)
* Ps 119:12
* (Mention of Don’t Leave the INC)
* 2 Samuel 22:21-25
* Ps 61:1-4
* (More shameless plugs of The Admin)
**Hymns**
* 274: “Serve and Worship Our God”
* First half is basically a lecture hymn
* 38: “Praise Our Father”
* includes a namedrop of the INC (even in the previous revision)
* 492: “Always Believe and Trust in Our Father”
* …but only IF you follow his laws and IF you remain in “his” “nation”
* If he is supposedly “full of love,” then how can he also be a jealous god?
* 73: “I Will Obey At All Times”
* self-explanatory (even the old title of “I Will Follow and Obey”)
* 370: “Please Be with Me, Almighty God”
* obedience/submission hymn
* 391: “True Wisdom Comes from ~~Manalo~~ the Father”
* lecture/obedience
**Stray Observation**
* I’m pretty sure this minister was one of the ones in the infamous [“INC Video for complete submission to the Church Administration”](https://youtu.be/iqXqMZuVmMc) video. Indeed he (and presumably the others) “will not remain silent” (or quiet), especially when it comes to kissing up to the admin…
Edit: corrected verse from Gen. 44:7 to 4:7",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"I've decided to,as a person who apparently the INC doesn't like,sleep through every lesson now,I might be forced to go by my parents but that doesn't mean I have to listen to the damn lesson",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"So, the OWE family was telling me how the lesson this Sunday is ""good"". Thank goodness for the folks here at r/exIglesiaNiCristo that share WS info since I already left. Knowing ahead what the s$%tshow brainwashing session is an advantage.
ME: So is the lesson about how the Bible should be the one source that should influence our lives.
OWE Fam: yeah. The minister Rex Rosquites, delivered a short sermon. It was done in 30 minutes.
ME: Well INC lessons are small verses here and there. You know the New Testament. If you read 5 chapters = 30 minutes of the New Testament, ONCE a week, it will be done in 1 year. Why do you think INC has not presented the complete BIBLE all these years.
OWE Fam: cricket cricket
ME: (Jokingly) You know when you get to meet Paul in heaven, he is going to ask you if you even read at least one letter that he wrote. His letters were such a hit that he heard it got included in this all-time bestseller book called the Bible. What are you going to say? Acts 20:28 Lamsa version.
OWE Fam: cricket cricket",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,".....and they keep saying that they are not a cult? Ha!
The crack is getting wider and their fear is so palpable! I don't want to say good luck INC because I don't ever want to wish them well! If anything, I wish you hell because I'm enjoying seeing your #s dwindling.
To EVM, you pathetic buffoon, nobody wants to join your ridiculous church. Your future Gen Z are leaving or at least soon they will leave. A lot of them are waking up. It's a matter of when and not if.
Yup keep telling yourselves that you guys are in some 100 or so countries and territories. It doesn't matter because at the end of the day, those countries you speak of don't consist of members from those said countries. Same story everywhere and every countries, 99.9% Filipinos, hence, a Filipino church-cult. It doesn't signify!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"This was quite an enjoyable waste of time.
A few things:
""Do not seek answers in social media"". Umm, members went to social media because the INCult refused to provide transparency on a whole host of events that started in 2015. Members were curious and needed information on rumors and news which turned out to be true. Instead of providing a response, the INCult doubled down and immediately had a service commanding that members ""just obey"". Needless to say the current climate in social media related to the INCult is due to the INCult itself.
""If you have any questions, bring it to the church administration."" Recall former minister Lowell Menorca, who was being harrassed due the administration's suspicion of him being AE. Lowell Menorca himself went to the church administration (EVM) for help. So what exactly happened when he approached the church administration? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyR8UYYw6xQ&t=650s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyR8UYYw6xQ&t=650s)
""You (church members) should think for yourselves."" They state that member should think for themselves but ran campaigns that are contrary to the thinking for one's self - Obey and Never Complain, numerous renditions of ""Always Submit to the Church Administration"".
\- ""OBEY and NEVER COMPLAIN""...? [https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/22366474\_10155064422272686\_6684793410566237615\_n.jpg?\_nc\_cat=100&ccb=1-5&\_nc\_sid=730e14&\_nc\_ohc=daVTRrDSBVQAX9JAkLv&\_nc\_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&oh=00\_AT9RLK1GmDbjvNHNTHZsbuh9mKEv1ACdIsZSItdoJ0-auw&oe=622DF111](https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.18169-9/22366474_10155064422272686_6684793410566237615_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=daVTRrDSBVQAX9JAkLv&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&oh=00_AT9RLK1GmDbjvNHNTHZsbuh9mKEv1ACdIsZSItdoJ0-auw&oe=622DF111)
\- ""ALYWAYS SUBMIT TO THE CHURCH ADMINISTRATION""?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI74wEgEmi8&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI74wEgEmi8&t=49s)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fata1l8Ijfw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fata1l8Ijfw)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaIl5rhYLfQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaIl5rhYLfQ)
If you are to ""just obey"" or ""always submit"" would that not forgo thinking for one's self. Or are you free to think for yourself but should still ""just obey"" and ""always submit"" regardless? So what is the point of thinking for one's self at that point?
Still a CULT, ran by BIGOTS ***and*** LIARS.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,What's the weekend lesson?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Our lesson last week is about Online influencers and we shouldn't be brainwashed by them lmfao as a teen myself we are not worshipping these influencers we just like their humor, talents and their gaming skills we are just inspired by them nothing else we don't worship them like gods and shit, and they said that parents should monitor our phones everyday like dafuq dude have you ever heard of Privacy? looking someone's phones without consent is very toxic and narcissistic.
Edit: i forget about the LGBT topic and hell they're homophobic using verses as an excuse, i also noticed that their interpretation of the Bible are out of context. Example about eating blood they just mixed both old and new testament so they can justify their teachings while ignoring the others like eating pork, shellfish, and animals with four toes and don't chew the cud, they claim that they know the Bible yet they don't even learn their ancient history culture and traditions like why Jews and Palestinians are mortal enemies, The old testament were influenced by Babylonian and Sumerian mythology, Isaiah, Jesus and his appostles were Kabbalist/Gnostics his teachings were mostly metaphorical, and lastly they didn't mention the Rape, enslavement, and cruelty of their God and pepole in the old testament. Such cherry picking shit",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,Feb 11 – 14?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"another ""Don't listen to anyone else but us"" lesson. I thought they wouldn't remix stuff but I guess I was wrong. Never count out the admins recycling lessons.
The 2nd half was simply to justify INC's eternal victim complex. And also responding to the backlash on this sub to the LGBTQ lesson, saying that we are all children and that we need to be taught a lesson by daddy EVM.
Which begs the question, were these lessons planned in advance? They knew what backlash they would face and respond to it, albeit very weakly?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"This lesson is basically ""don't believe anything influencers say but if it has anything that can promote our propaganda then devote your entire life to it"". Favorite hymn: 391. The before text song being my favorite rarely happens but this is my favorite before text hymn and I already talked about how surprised I am on how good this song was so no need to gush about it any more.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"I’m truly glad that you know the iglesia Ni Christo toxic tactics. Imagine the leader Eduardo can disown his own mother…… how unchristian is that!!! The false preaching of the minister saying they are Christians are all GARBAGE words!!! Eduardo Is a fine example of how unchristian he is by putting his Mom and brother into hardships. It’s brainwashing at it’s Finest that the iglesia Ni Christo members thinks Eduardo puts the church first before his family. The TOXIC Cult church is what it is!!! Nothing to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ and cherry picked verses to suite their own interpretation and preaching. CULT, CULT, CULT, is truly what the iglesia Ni Christo/ Manalo Administration is.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Come on, INC is the Church of God, surely they're not scared of this sub :))",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,Can we get another recording please,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Clearly on the preaching that the iglesia Ni Christo preaches to their members is so TOXIC and False. The minister speaks of the Salvation of members through the church administration that is so False but the brainwashed members fall for these LIES. Social media is the light that ignite’s the spark to the youth of the iglesia Ni Christo to seek the TRUTH of Jesus Christ’s Gospel and the man-made FALSE prophecy of the Manalo Family. A fine example is the video’s of LJ Caraang that’s on YouTube. This young mans journey, success and example of how he found out about the TOXIC preaching and LIES of the Iglesia Ni Christo should be a must see for all iglesia Ni Christo youth 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"So, we get another mention! Yay!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Teachings written in the Bible huh. Let’s see WW1 wasn’t in the Bible. FYM wasn’t in the Bible. Philippines wasn’t in the Bible.
This subreddit stays true to the Bible more than inc. FYM basically made a movie adaptation of the Bible where he is the fucking star. Pretty narcissistic if you ask me.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,I have the Preachers Guide from the LGBT bashing service too. No (c) on those documents. :),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,I don't think any social media personality presently based in the Philippines would dare go against the INC.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"New to this sub, may I ask who Sebastian Rauffenburg is? What he did and where he is now.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,Gen 4:7 was the correct verse.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,20 php for twice a week nap time? Lucky if your church have ac.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,LMAO .. I love your reply!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Dunno. But am looking forward to it.
The Church of the Church Administration has taken to hanging itself using its own rope.
Why stop it? lol. Keep it at it INC! LOL",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"It's all about obedience, ""until the day I die"" lmao
Edit: They're also justifying bigotry as a showcase of God's Love for which determines what should be done
Edit 2: Also flexing the supposed ""growth"" of the church, that we're reaching perfection",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,I have copies of all the services so far. its a matter of posting due to copyright. haha,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Here is the link, encoded in Base64 (search up how to decode it.) Preaching starts at 19:20.
aHR0cHM6Ly9idW4uZmlsZWRpdC5jaC9MVHNXSWlKTEtVd0JHck12QWRlcS5tcDM",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"In my opinion, a lot of this is directed at Rauffenberg. Maybe all of us to an extent, but especially at Rauffenberg.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Because they kiss INC's ass
Sending religious gifts to politicians = still a bribery.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"They are the Philippine equivalent of Disney. They can ruin your reputation or your career--in the Philippines--if you go against them. People pretend to be INC members to get preferential treatment at airports or other places where they know INC members work or have major influence.
On top of that, there are the threats of violence which they keep very hush hush. Some of those SCAN members just need a reason to ""take action"" and in the PI, it'll get covered up.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Its the board name of one of the members here who post various things about INC and their doctrines. Here is an example.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sqyv1n/bible\_scholar\_subreddit\_on\_the\_meaning\_of\_ends\_of/",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,Some say some guy lj crang. Sebastian is too smart to be him or her. Lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,SR is the pseudonym of a former minister based in the West. He now spends his downtime helping expose the Manalo bullshit for what it really is.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,Thank you!! I edited my comment accordingly,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,Sadly no,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Currently in WS right now, not really, a ""controversia"" lesson. Still a waste of time, though.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Check out fileditch, they ignore DMCA requests.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Not gonna lie, I'm impressed that Rauffenberg caused a so-called christian organization ""spread throughout 150+ countries in the world"" to dedicate a whole week at the least to acknowledge his humble work in this little sub.
Why is the INC doing this now? Surely they are ""victorious"" in gaining ""abundant"" new members that a 14,600 member subreddit is nothing but a drop in the bucket compared to all the new souls being saved by the INC week after week?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,">Because they kiss INC's ass
If you're referring to social media personalities, not entirely. It's more along the lines of them wanting to walk around with their head safely on their shoulders.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Is it another webex, or are they trusting the minister to actually speak now?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,The last time they were *this* obsessed with social media was during the height of AE's posting. And this may also be a smidge politically motivated as Central is seeing a lot of youth being outspoken about their presidential choices (something they obviously don't want among their membership).,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,"Going after Rauffenberg is a little easier for them because its mostly doctrine type discussions. I think they find others much harder to deal with. If someone says, I don't care about doctrine or the trinity, I just think that that church administration is corrupt, there isn't much they can do about that.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 11 - Feb 14, 2022)",sq1cvq,2022-02-11,Webex,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sq1cvq/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_11_feb_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"Basically the lesson was:
INC - we are against all types of discrimination
Also INC: There is us, and there are those na *tagasanlibutan*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,The best way to combat racism is to convert people into the INC LMFAO,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"AUDIO FILE (encoded with base64, search on how to decode):
aHR0cHM6Ly9idW4uZmlsZWRpdC5jaC9LWmh0eEhqU2pOckNqSWdzcVJSUS5tcDM
Preaching starts at 20:41.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"INC denying they're oppressing people again by saying they're against it. Yet here they are doing it and promoting it.
Telling parents to watch what they're kids are doing? Monitoring how many special offerings we officers are giving and how many guests are we bringing. Obey and never complain? Members who can't speak up because of fear of retaliation by INC? Say that again INC, I dare you.
They said they're against discrimination too including GENDER? I dare them to say that again in front of all the LGBTQ who they think are all criminals. To all the Catholics and Protestants who they think are all demons.
All INC members are equal they say yet they treat Manalo and his family like they're above everyone else.
And their so called aid to humanity? They pretty much just said that they did that just so that they can get more converts. Under the guise of ""caring for them by giving and preaching"" while telling INC members who suffered as much losses in that super typhoon as those who aren't INC to just have more faith and pray more God more and go to church more while getting little to no help from them.
Then there's this part where they told us to consider having an office a blessing (as an officer myself, I can tell you that it's not). They tell us use as much of our time as possible for the church. Does that not sound like exploitation to you?
And like the cult they are, they start preaching about doomsday again where they create imaginary problems and sell imaginary solutions that you need to work and pay for in real life.
Then comes their play the victim part where they say the world hates them.
Then a brief mention of social media again and how we should not follow a movement that goes against ""God's will"". Still did not give us a shoutout.
I decided to try my best to not listen after that...I couldn't take it anymore.
Absolute torture of a lesson, full of contradiction and chaos by the so called one true church.
That concludes my ""spiritually immature fit"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"Some thoughts:
""The church disapproves of discrimination against one's race, GENDER, socioeconomic status..."" Why would you say this just after the homophobic lesson two weeks ago?? Hypocrites.
The opening hymn ""I Am Proud To Be A Member Of The Church Of Christ"" was so bland. The singers lacked energy. Probably tired of recording for two years unpaid? Lol
Thank God they finally changed the opening ""inspirational"" video.
The church is against oppression and discrimination but members are discouraged from being too involved politically especially when it's against God's words. Very conservative evangelical. Just go to church and pray while the world goes to shit. 🤷♀️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"Makes you wonder why the Gospel of Jesus Christ is not preached. The humbleness, and love that Jesus Christ has for everyone and anyone is never preached to the iglesia Ni Christo members.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"* **[Tagalog HWS Text](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sucvfb/midweek_hws_lesson_feb_1617_tagalog/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)**
* Title Translation: What the Bible Says about Peer Oppression and Racial Prejudice
* Lev. 25:17
* Acts 15:9
* 2 Pet 1:10
* Matt 5:14, 16
* (I dozed off here so I might have missed one or more verses)
* Philip 1:27
* Rom 13:12-13
* Rom 12-13
* (Segue into encouraging brethren to take offices)
* 1 Cor 6:12, 17
* Isa 51:7-8
* 2 Cor 6:26
* 1 Pet 1:13
* Ps 23:3-4,6
* Social media was mentioned extensively, but not necessarily against the church (unless I missed something)
**Hymns**
* 90: “Repent for All Our Sins”
* lecture hymn
* [428: “I’m Proud to Be a Member of the Church of Christ”](https://youtu.be/Dc9Zrv25mOc)
* title seems self-explanatory
* 31: “Reach Out and Offer Your Help”
* lecture hymn on propagation
* 503: “Because You Have Decided to Love Me”
* If God supposedly “call[s] and choose[s] without discrimination,” then how is the INC predominantly Filipino?
* includes submission and obedience lyrics
* 236: “O Fellow Brethren”
* 505: “We Must Learn from Christ”
* lecture hymn that includes lyrics about not doubting",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,Starts of about discrimination degrades into doomsday fearmongering.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"They said that there will no longer be any racial discrimination when we're in the holy city. Is it because it'll just be Filipinos from the INC? LOL
I remember the incmedia IG account posted something during the whole BLM protest. They got called out on their post and they ended up deleting it. They should have just left it up for the world to see instead of taking the post back. I saw so many members repost it too.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"Sexuality/Gender descrimination in the INC:*they sleep*
Racial descrimination apparently:O_O
Not that racial discrimination is any less bad but it's funny to see them condemn one type and perpetrate another",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"Mga kaps, ano pala paborito nyong talata? Ako kasi..huling talata. Charot.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"Wierd how they say they don't discriminate but they're literally calling everyone except them ""sanlibutan"" and not to join or make contact with them because they're ""magulo at nag aaway away sila"". I guess being ""against"" discrimination is only held with them in the cult lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"This shit wreaks of clout chasing. That's pretty low and disgusting even for a cult like this.
I can't recall this church ever doing anything to directly support efforts against racial discrimination.
Oh yeah, let's not forget:
INC: ""The INC is against Oppression.""
*\*Angel Manalo has entered the chat\**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"The lesson was i *think* a bit bogus but the reason i dont like this particular lesson is that they took something like racism... and opression as something to further promote their cult for all what its worth. Like. ????? What
'Omg racism bad but also join our cult ♡♡ ! racism bad but we shouldnt let that past us ... hehehe :] yasss ♡♡'
People have died to opression ?? They talk about the violence of protests but have yall even TOUCHED on the true discrimination that POC people face ?? Slavery and beatings and literal murders? Tf ..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"This was honestly really funny. ""We know why oppression and discrimination exists"" and ""Us INC don't discriminate on anyone"" completely contradict the lesson from two weeks ago (I swear to god I really don't want to bring up that disaster ever again) where the ENTIRE lesson was just crapping on the LGBTQ. Also why is February filled with so many anti-social media/influencer lessons? Like this is the 3rd one in a row. And if we're talking about false beliefs then this is the 4th one in a row and it's getting really tedious. For the hymns, weirdly, 428 was sung as the opener when normally it's the second hymn of a lineup. 31 is pretty good (it's a fun enough time. lyrics are obviously blegh), 503 is one of my favorites even if the lyrics don't feel right and I'm not saying that because culty lyrics but it just felt different. 236 is an uncommon hymn so it's weird how recently sung it is.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"It's weird how they say they are against racism and discrimination but at the same time they tell us not to participate because it is ""violent"". What about peaceful protests? Only a small percent of the BLM protests consisted of looting and rioting. Doing nothing and staying complacent to all the discrimination is just as bad as the perpetrators because we're fully aware of what's going on but instead we should just ignore and let it happen?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,Does anyone have a copy of the midweek HWS service?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"They must be reading this subreddit and seeing the reactions of their hate filled sermons. They discriminate everyone! LGBTQ+, Catholics or any other religion, and anyone they deem not like them.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,">INC - we are against all types of discrimination
>
>Also INC: There is us, and there are those na tagasanlibutan
Hmm. makes absolute sense.
Self-contradiction is one of this cult's ""great"" qualities.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"Hi Coder-One,
If that was true, all members could sit together at the chapel.
If that was true, women could also be ministers.
If that were true, the leadership would not say that the Filipino is the superior race compared to all others.
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,Hope I can hold my giggles later,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"Ikr, they're always so convincing. I wasnt sure where they were going with this one but they still managed to make it about propagation again lmao.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,How many hours did the ws last?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"I’m truly glade that you can think out of the box and not be programmed in the iglesia Ni Christo False controlling Toxic preaching. The conditioning process of their false preaching truly does mislead and brainwash their members. I truly thank God for creating this Subreddit, and Jesus Christ for guidance in his Gospel.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"Ah yes, the irony.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"Considering our choir directors make it seem like the choirs are literally locked up to sing in the recordings, I'm not surprised. IIRC they don't get to go home to their families for a while, especially if they're stuck where they're recording because of COVID lockdowns.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,They really love to act apolitical and superior when it's convenient,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,Thank you.. :),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,I’m glade that you can show how misleading and manipulated the worship service’s are preached.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"Are you a current INC member, u/KadPresChoirSecTSV?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"Two things I want to say:
\-It would’ve been really funny if they sung 503 two weeks ago when they did that asshole move to crap on the LGBT. Honestly 503 is so emblematic of how contradictory this entire lesson was to the WS from two weeks ago. Same goes for 492 from Sunday.
\-505 says “Ang sinumang may alinlangan, iilawan niyang lubos” which surprised me because almost every single other hymn that talks about doubt says that people with doubt will be punished so don’t doubt. I always think the lyrics go “Ang sinumang may alinlangan, may parusa sa ating Diyos” because of their hatred for doubters.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"One of the verses that really stuck with me was 1 Corinthians 6:12 ERV ""I am allowed to do anything,” you say. My answer to this is that not all things are good. Even if it is true that “I am allowed to do anything,” I will not let anything control me like a slave."" HOW IRONIC LOL",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,You have a screenshot of that post or know where one is?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"Perhaps less racial discrimination, but there's still going be hella envy and gossiping happening. Just because Filipinos. Haha.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,Same pag narinig ko talaga yon dati bigla ako nabubuhayan ng loob. Kase malapit na matapos at makakauwi nako lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,😆,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,Overheard the lesson while getting our transfers at the office.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,The iglesia Ni Christo seems to see the influential truth that the internet has provided to all of the people,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,but no according to EVM we should only conduct protests when they are facing lawsuits or being investigated for a crime LOL,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"Hi Code-One,
The people that write up these lessons probably even doubt this last ""discrimination"" lesson for it is all a lie.
If I was in the audience at a chapel, I would shout out all their racist issues back for all to hear and give that minister something to think about!
Young Offenheimer
P.S.
That was the main thing why I resigned from this religion years ago. In that sermon/lesson that minister told me that people from the Philippines were above all races...
**I took my name tag and broke it in two and stuffed it in the ministers shirt pocket** after the service. My wife at that time was shocked by the lesson but did not say a word. Eventually we had a divorce because the INC said she could not be married to a non-member. We were married for over 22 years and the INC wrecked our marriage and did not care!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,On point! Completely agree,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,About an hour.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,You’re welcome 😁,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,Yes,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"I don't actually, but we have some threads here around that time where others mentioned it. I'll dig around, maybe someone did screenshot it.
I remember seeing the post, then seeing reposts, then the original post just gone.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 15 - Feb 17, 2022)",st4u1s,2022-02-15,"[https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwzy5j/what\_happened\_to\_that\_post\_they\_had\_on/](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gwzy5j/what_happened_to_that_post_they_had_on/)
It was around the time of this post and this post refers to that IG post. I wish I had a screenshot, but I don't.
EDIT:
Found it actually:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gw0f9n/hope\_they\_dont\_delete\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gw0f9n/hope_they_dont_delete_this/)
https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/gvzyqv/the\_hypocrites\_are\_at\_it\_again\_can\_someone\_do\_the/",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/st4u1s/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_15_feb_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"In summary, it was fuck the WOKES.
They ask people to don't think, don't doubt, don't hate, just simply follow them and you're all good. Like they are not Humans with faults.
There was even a part that the minister said don't even listen/read the explanations of these WOKES. There it is.People that don't want you to think for yourself should never be your friends.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,I can only imagine this subreddit while the preaching is on-going. Hahaha,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"minister says we should be basing our values from the bible. Even they aren't basing their values from it, but on Felix's Asking-a-jollibee-employer-for-a-health-advice type interpretation. None of todays ministers actually have a *real* education in theology. Rather, they wasted years studying Felix's interpretations..
smh",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,*Who needs critical thinking and informed decision-making when you can just blindly parrot everything the admin says*,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"As one of the ""slaves of our desires"", I have a ""desire"" to say this.
INC's on panic mode I can tell. Especially that minister (the one who was teaching in english). His tone sounded like he's trying to save a sinking ship on which his livelihood depends on. Calling us out for our anonymity while trying their best not to mention reddit and this sub.
His prayers sounded desperate too, come on really? Praying to God to make us go away?
INC is against being WOKE, they hate the idea of us being self aware and being aware of the issues around us cause they know they won't be able to exploit us for profit.
They see people as nothing more than drones or pets they can just leash and control. That analogy part where he talked about someone walking off a cliff to his death when unguided really made me think of that, that part was just stupid.
Also, INC preached that they see men and women as equal but then when it came to the announcements they said that SFM is only for men (stated as one of the requirements).
Man, a lot of EVM/CA mentions this one especially on the prayers eugh...
Yet they say they condemn any form of idolatry. Iglesia Ni Contradictions indeed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,To make it short they want INC brethren to close their eyes and go to sleep until the judgement day comes 'coz fuck the WOKES! LOL,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"The ""lessons""/""sermons"" for the past few months seems to be targeted towards us. By us, I mean we people who uses internet to scour information properly. I only noticed it when they had that lesson about the date of the registration of the church. Also the sermons these last few weeks seems to me like their pitiful attempt at trying to be either ""in the know"" of the current situations/ discussions or trying to firefight issues that they don't even know how to handle just by plain gatekeeping. I mean if they do it to boomers and older generations, maybe some millenials, it might work. I'm not so sure about the newer generations. Hopefully they are hearing those lectures and just silently laugh at their futile attempts.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,All I can say is that I’m glad we’re still required to wear masks so they couldn’t see me smiling when they were complaining about THE WOKES.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"Everything is bullshit. Opening prayer - minister kissed EVM's ass for about 2-4 mins.
Opening sentence for the lecture mentioned him again and how much he cares for the flock lol
Basically, INC is right, everybody's wrong. Don't believe in everything you see in social media. 🤦♂️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,Today's sermon in three words: Bawal maging matalino.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,[ Removed by Reddit ],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"**OOUGbGH** where do i even *start ....*
First off, they never mentioned what exactly 'woke' means. Mostly because i think if they say that the normal woke means being against racial / social / lgbtq discrimination and fighting for rights, then everyone would be confused ... since, yknow, last cult session said theyre """"""*against discrimination*"""""" [*agressively stares down that homophobic and transphobic lesson*]
ANYWAY. i hate how fervently against they are critical thinking ... and social media in general
'Dont like, share or even subscribe to their ideas -- because thats *no* easy sin!'
?????????? okay? talk abt fear mongering jfccc GBWEAHHAHAHA
Anyway, the gist is that the only way you can ever be right / morally correct is through the bible. But not even through that simple manner ??
You need to submit yourself to the church administration if you ever dare to be right, and let them take a hold of you, your humanity and your entire ideology which i find STUPID.
They say it like 'woke people' (or. yknow, people who are fighting for EQUAL HUMAN RIGHTS) are just stupid opinionated mfs who hate anyone who isnt like them. Which. Is so backwards ...? They'd rather cultivate a close-minded, gossipy, hateful but sheep-like group, than actually let their group flourish. just.
(head in hands and screaming) hate it here plsss let me out",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,I cringe how this scam administration tries its best to control how their members think.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,The part where they’re like men and women are equal! We don’t discriminate here! But it’s so funny because they won’t let a woman be “president” or head of any office unless it’s secretary,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"The Lesson Outline for this Weekend's service is:
**WE SHOULD STRIVE TO BE AWAKE TO GOD'S RIGHTEOUSNESS TAUGHT IN THE CHURCH OF CHRIST AND NOT BE ""WOKE""**
INTRODUCTION:
**WHAT ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ONE TRUE GOD AND ALL OF HIS LAWS AND COMMANDMENTS?**
1. ""All His ways are justice, a God of truth and without injustice."". . . . Deut. 32:3-4
2. Awake to righteousness . . . . . 1 Cor. 15:34 NKJV and WE
**WHERE CAN WE FIND THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD THAT WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE AWAKE TO AND ACTIVELY FULFILL?**
1. In the gospel, God's power to salvation . . . . . Rom. 1:16-17
2. ""Not having my own righteousness"" . . . . . Phil. 3:9
3. Those who will not inherit the kingdom . . . . . 1 Cor. 6:9-11
**HOW DID THE APOSTLES PROVE THEIR FAITH IN GOD'S RIGHTEOUSNESS?**
1. Did not stop proclaiming it . . . . . Acts 5:40-42
2. Being baptized into union with Christ . . . . . Gal. 3:27-29 GNB
**WHAT DID THE APOSTLES WARN ABOUT THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST IN THESE LAST DAYS WOULD FACE?**
1. An extremely fierce culture of society . . . . . II Tim. 3:1-5 TPT
2. That the eyes of your heart may be enlightened . . . . . Eph. 1:16-19 ULB
By. Joel San Pedro",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,My dad told me not to join online groups.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"Shoutout to u/trey-rey for sharing the [outline](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/hxgz87c/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)!
For the hymns, we start with a lecture showtune (that also mentions joining a church that claims God calls people into it) that segues into a pair of lecture hymns (One was literally titled “Truly Blessed Are Those Who Are Obedient”; the other literally has a lyric, “Do not let depression take hold.”), a “hymn” titled “I Will Follow Your Commandment, Counsel, And Instruction” (This and the officers’ prayer hymn are the only ones where the worshiper sings to Jesus; s/he never sings to God at all in today’s lineup), and for the before sermon hymn, yet another lecture hymn on submission.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"They're obviously preparing for the coming elections. Rest assured, I will NEVER vote for their endorsements especially their political puppet Rodante Marcubeta",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"I find it ironic how seemingly shallow their stances on politics are. Not to mention, when they mentioned the absence of inequalities between men and women… I felt the urge to point out how ministers are all male and ministers’ wives are like stationary objects for display (wallpapers = women????), deprived of their ambition to act based on free will!
They also seem to brainwash church goers with the threat of the digital age, making them reject modernity and preserve the traditional-leaning perspectives in the bible!
I mean, obviously, social media platforms are spaces for discourses and not all expressions we see online are facts. That’s why posts and credible sources are peer-reviewed.
However, with the words they preach, I beg to question what exactly are their grounds for them to mock “unmentioned” contents as unreliable? They couldn’t even give an example of the “woke” talks they’re referring to!
Also, another remarkable rant, what is so vague on the constitutional provisions of church-and-state separation that they couldn’t comprehend its terms? Even a high school student would understand it just from reading the title :)
Nakakalokaaaaaaaaa hsjsnsjssjshshsn",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"The lesson of today’s services slightly spoke of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, but when they mentioned MEMBERSHIP in the iglesia Ni Christo and SALVATION through the Church Administration all that Gospel of Jesus Christ went down the drain. The iglesia Ni Christo misinterpreted the Gospel by saying it’s through the church Administration and membership that the Gospel of Jesus Christ is spoken through. STILL the preaching of the Administration must add in membership and salvation through the church Administration which is Truly False! It’s WHOEVER calls upon Jesus Christ is saved, the key word is WHOEVER!!!! not a membership not a Administration and especially not Eduardo!!! It’s WHOEVER. This is how the iglesia Ni Christo manipulates the Bible and the Gospel of Jesus Christ by adding to the words of the Bible to suite their brainwashing tactic preaching.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,Mulat ang topic pero papikit-pikit ako 🙏,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"One of the funniest things is that Jesus was probably considered woke during his time. Man sat and ate with prostitutes, the INCult can't even handle pronouns. Lowkey hoping that audio recoding of the homophobic sermon goes popular on twitter / tiktok so more of the new gens catch wind of this cult, hopefully decreasing the possibility of them being recruited.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,#[Tagalog HWS Text](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sx3gg7/weekend_hws_lesson_feb1920_tagalog/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"\>>>>>>>>>>>:(((((((((((((((((((((((((
Take all of the anti-social media garbage they've been feeding us and amplify all of those to concerning amounts. This was almost as bad as that anti-LGBT lesson from a few weeks ago. This shook me to my core. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. About the hymns, 489 is energy filled fun. 354 is whatever. 510 is amazing but the lyrics kinda affect my opinion on it for being that bad. 429 has the only lyric out of all the INC hymns that I liked (but only out of context and in tagalog though). Hearing that lyric for the first time hit like a truck but hearing it a billion times due to this hymn's frequency makes me feel nothing for it. 423 drags on for too long which is weird to say for a before text hymn. Overall this entire WS is a 2/10 and made me lose all my respect for the INC which was already little after that disaster anti-LGBT lesson. Literally the only reason I didn't give this a 1/10 is because the hymns carried.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"So far i cannot see any offensive or fault about this lesson, it is their worship service so ofcourse they will teach their members about what their beliefs. I also observed other religions and it is the same concept, the idea is to preserve their faith inside of their religion.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,Still afraid to mention us. They're obviously afraid of us. Right lurking INC ministers?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,theyre trying so hard getting members off reddit ahahaha,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,And no legit Bible Scholar has ever cited the teachings of Manalo. None.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,Their education is whatever Manalo or INC wants you to know.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"Facts, I'll believe in theologians and Bible scholars more than these Cash hungry fake gurus",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"Apparently, only EVM gets the right to think. For the rest of us, thinking is punishable by death in the lake of fire.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"The prayers, I don't remember if it's the ending or the openning or both, start praying for EVM right off the bat.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,It’s like this sub is dictating what their WS lessons are. They are scared and desperate cuz this sub gains more followers than they can bring in to their dumbass worldwide evangelical missions.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"Well, if that is the case, then they need to start letting EVM speak again. Nothing puts one to sleep like a EVM sermon.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,Ikr and at first i thought the minister is saying Wok but when the moment i realized he's saying Woke lmao he almost gave me chuckles at the middle of the church lesson,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,These Webexes are simply puff pieces for the fat man. Knowing very well that he and his gang are watching their every word.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"They've vague about ""wokeness"" on purpose, because they're attacking the very concept of progressive thinking.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,It doesn't help in convincing us na iyong nag.lelecture is someone from the older generation. We very well know how most if not all of them are so set in their traditional ways no matter how wrong/incorrect those are.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"Also along with the 'us vs them' mentality they preach every lesson which is so not cult like /s.
They also find a way to victimise themselves and talk about how ""persecuted"" they are while preaching and demonstrating 100x more hate than they experience.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,They're trying so hard to keep up with the times lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,Once again nothing to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ that’s fully about Jesus Christ’s preaching that God wants all people to know. Manipulation of the Bible at it’s Finest to suite the iglesia Ni Christo’s Cultish beliefs.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,Too late,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"""to hell with progressive mindsets"" definitely doesn't sound like the gospels to me lmao",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"Offtopic but does anyone know how many absences can a member have until an officer visits them?
Do they have to be consecutive absences or does it not matter?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,Yup,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"They (scholars) don't seem to treat the INC seriously anymore, I think? Or maybe they never did",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,"And they say they're not a cult. They just love being hypocrites.
Iglesia Ni Manalo is a true cult. That I truly believe in.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 18 - Feb 21, 2022)",svjyrx,2022-02-18,They can't keep up. It's same old song just from a different version of the bible and a 10 pound wig. lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/svjyrx/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_18_feb_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,"(Head in hands and yelling incomprehensively)
Alriiight, here we go!
- Detractors / those who go against inc are satan and his crew of demons
- Dont be influenced by social media unless they follow the strict rules of the church
- a lot of ass kissing of the administration n saying that theyre doing whats best for the cult
- 'we have these specfic non-compassionate and violently submissive biblical values so were definetely the ones who r gonna be saveddd yasss ♡♡♡'
- ummmm saving yourself from sin was, again, mentioned.
All in all theyre honing in on the social media hate / fearmongering train as always !!!!!! very good to see that were getting to them, and fucking hilarious for them to vauge out the inc subreddit by an off hand comment abt demons not showing their faces. Fucking hilarious !!!!
Anyway yesss were getting to them now :] love that",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,"Well, looks like they stopped using those pre recorded videos to teach us here in f2f WS.
It's basically Devil this and Devil that. Got too bored to listen or to care. (probably just me sleep deprived).
Also PPV cult leader special weekend has been announced. Ready? Tuloy!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,"**encoded in base64**
CWS Hymns: aHR0cHM6Ly9idW4uZmlsZWRpdC5jaC9jVG15REJvc0JFVmpLYXROcGZObS56aXA
Midweek Hymns: aHR0cHM6Ly8xLmZpbGVkaXQuY2gvMS9CQldhUlpVYWRodHJoUGVHZkJoby56aXA",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,"It's funny how members of the cult respond to recorded prayers with 'Yes, Father' or 'Opo, Siyanga po' without realizing they are being fooled by EVM.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,For the love of god INC stop with the Anti-Social media bullcrap you've been saying this all month. You already destroyed me back in Sunday that's enough. What I hate the most about the INC by far is how they're entire how basically all their arguments completely lean on being saved on Judgement Day. This completely hit me when I saw that one image of multiple religions in unity. Of course INC won't be there because why interact with people you know won't be saved? 390 is the best song in this lineup of hymns which frankly is the only thing I respect from the INC (not too much though because of the possibility of plagiarism).,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,Hello fellow demons lol. They seem to be quite intimidated after all.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,I knew it. It's the same thing again. Good thing I brought earphones.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,"More free advertisement for this sub. Oh dear, sweet baby Jesus!
C'mon INCult, you know you wanna say it.
Just say it! **R e d d i t**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,They must be feeling the pain from people waking up from their nightmare! I hope they are bleeding members like crazy!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,How do you listen to more than 1 minute of that stupid voice where it is like they are some fake crying creep begging his girlfriend to not leave him.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,Thanks for the heads up!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,EVM this weekend for ultimate damage control. Release the kraken!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,The iglesia Ni Christo should look in the Mirror before talking about the Devil.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,dba there was a mandate before about accepted responses to prayers? I never paid attention to it but in general sinusunod pa ba yun?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,This is gonna get interesting...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,Well said! 👍,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,"It's either 'Yes, Father' for English worship or 'Opo, Ama' for Tagalog worship. But I think it's ridiculous and sounded too culty when they responded to prayers like that, online or actual.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Feb 22 - Feb 24, 2022)",sypmg6,2022-02-22,"Doubt it. It's going to be a rehash of what he has ranted on about in the past.
He will make general statements about ""detractors"".
The end of the world is near; judgement day is coming.
INCult membership is the most important thing in your lives; always hold on to it no matter what.
Long prayers for the most important person in the world and the most important person in the world's family and helpers.
Just the same old shit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/midweek_worship_service_examination_feb_22_feb_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"EVM: COVID is evolving!!
INCult:Doesn’t believe in evolution😆",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"No romanticizing the Russia-Ukraine war? They may be preparing that the end is near lesson on their next worshit service. EVM is boring by the way, and nope, God is NOT with them. It's a God-forsaken cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,They really prayed for EVM 4 times. Jesus Christ.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"**Verses Read**
* Hebrews 11:32-34
* Hebrews 6:12, 11
* Judges 6:1-4
* Judges 6:11-16
* Judges 7:1-7
* Judges 7:20-23
* Ephesians 6:12-13
* Psalm 142:4-5, 1-3
* Psalm 94:14
* Psalm 84:1-2, 10-12
* Psalm 34:9
* EVM never mentioned a single translation.
**Deadly Themes**
* Don't Leave the INC
* I'm not sure if these count, but the following were mentioned briefly:
* Detractors
* Social Media against the Church
* The Administration
**Stray Observations/Thoughts**
* Tuloy Tally/Continue Count: 52
* Last time only had 32; is EVM trying to make up for it? Does he have some yearly quota to meet?
* Sermon: 54 minutes
* Total PPV: 1 hour, 35 minutes
* After the reading of Eph. 6:12-13, EVM goes on a tangent, claiming INC remains standing in spite of the Japanese Army during WWII, ministers in key positions who rebelled against the admin (while providing a shoutout to social media yet not citing examples), and Martial Law. I wonder if it will remain standing in spite of a pandemic or a certain social media platform (whose name will never be uttered by a minister or worker for obvious reasons) further garnering attention.
* During his ending mock-prayer, EVM says, ""We will love our membership in the Church of Christ,"" in an attempt to keep believers brainwashed.
* I still wish the reader would throw a bible at or near EVM considering how often the interruptions occur.
* Oops! EVM forgot to mention offerings in his homily. And offerings drop to an all-time low..
**Hymns**
So just take last Sunday's lineup, replace 510 with 514, replace 429 with the two processionals (""All Our Praise to You"" & ""Lord God, Do Not Abandon Us""), and there's today's lineup.
* 135 (""I Draw Near to You"")
* mentions one's INC membership: ""Thank You for calling me to Your fold""
* 489 (""People of God, Give Him Glory"")
* the slogan from late 2019 the admin churned out
* lecture showtune
* If INC believes God (or Jesus, as seen above) calls people into the fold, then why do the lyrics go: ""There is no doubt whatsoever/There is surely no mistake/In deciding to join this church/Where we steadfastly remain""?
* If ""There is surely no mistake,"" then why do so many people disagree?
* If ""We steadfastly remain,"" why all the expulsions (key ministers especially, as seen above)?
* 354 (""Truly Blessed Are Those Who Are Obedient"")
* ...
* 514 (""Do Not Be Anxious over Anything"")
* Wow! Just like that, anxiety levels drop 100% among people trapped in a cult! /s
* lecture hymn
* If the title is true, then why are ministers and workers so anxious over the littlest things? Or am I just stuck in an unlucky region?
* The second processional hymn mentions cherishing and defending one's calling; apparently that's more important than two spiritual beings these days...
* 423 (""Submit to the Father's Will"")
* They misspelled ""Manalo's Will""
* oh look! more submission/obedience
* 293 (""Truly We Will Be Victorious"")
* Preludes:
* 430 (""Those Who Are Obedient Believers"")
* 284 (""I Will Serve You"")
* [450 (""Give the Father First Place in Your Life"")](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pL4lPKjonk)
* [5 (""To Our Savior, Confide All"")](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vV3obrvR1o)
* 76 (""Jesus, You Are My Beloved Guide"")
* 456 (""Rejoicing is Certain to Come"")
* 342 (""In Performing Our Duties"")
* Why they put an officers' prayer hymn here, I have no idea...
* 458 (""I Will Hold Fast the Election I Have"")
* [216 (""A Change Took Place in My Life"")](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mzmAbNbCqw)
* [97 (""Always Call Upon Our Father"")](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7afeSXXbRjw)
* 429 (""I Will Follow Your Commandment, Counsel, and Instruction"")
* 236 (""O Fellow Brethren"")
* 21 (""Be Merciful to Me"")
* [139 (""I Will Serve Him"")](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqy5s95BBEc)
* 465 (""I Will Now Completely Renew My Life"")
* I swear this one just drags and doesn't want to end...
* 111 (""I Am Just a Pilgrim Here"")
* 214 (""I Don't Want to Be Punished"")
* 324 (""Please Accept Our Worship Service"")
* [463 (""All My Faith and All My Trust, I Place in You"")](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff5yjKd37lk)
* another very long hymn...
* [478 (""Worship Opens Doors to God's Goodness"")](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iq0NqO-f5Q)
* 145 (""Thank You, Lord God Almighty"")
* 208 (""I Call to You, Almighty Father"")
* Interlude: 183 (""I Thank You, Father"")",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"this was 1 hour longer than it needed to be. some thoughts:
* i tried *really* hard not to laugh when eddy boi mentioned that the Catholics endorsed a president and implied that INC is above all of that. something pot something kettle.
* i *hate* at the end of every lesson they do this fake prayer thing, where they say that we all pray for safety and guidance and what not. dude if you're going to pray just fucking pray. don't spend 15 minutes saying what you should be praying for.
* they mentioned social media again. can you just say ""reddit"" already and put us all out of our misery, thanks
and i didn't pay attention to anything else. i was daydreaming about my grocery list and what game i should play today.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"# Unable to capture, internet was lagging out :(
[Summary of PPV](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/comment/hyjdhlt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) (creds [u/KadPresChoirSecTSV](https://reddit.com/u/KadPresChoirSecTSV))
**encoded in base64**
CWS Hymns can be found [here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/sypmg6/comment/hy6of6r/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
AWS Hymns (**backup hymns, not ppv**): aHR0cHM6Ly8xLmZpbGVkaXQuY2gvMS9oQktwSmNGUm10VnVta3ZVVFVwLnppcA",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"Is it just me or was the first half basically a direct admission from them that they're losing members?
That or it's just the classic response/defense for them being such a minority compared to Catholics but that's okay because 'God is with us' 🙂🙂🙂",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"His grace Eduardo, of House Manalo, first of his name, King of the INC and protector of the faith, will grace us with his thoughts this weekend.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,The part of the prayer where he says we need to submit and obey EVM.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,It's our Lord and savior EVM teaching for way too long this weekend. Get ready to listen to his obnoxious high pitched voice.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"Turned out to be so much less interesting than I anticipated. It was so boring it nearly drove me insane. I even felt glad that he did his ""prayer speech"" (meant to make OWEs cry) because it meant that he's almost done with his ramblings.
EVM just shared the story of Gideon then uses it to promote his grandfather and father by telling us how they defeated their ""enemies"" and how INC still stands.
He thinks that he's defeated the likes of us too who use social media to go against the church saying that we are already gone. Yeah, sure whatever cult leader man, keep living the illusion that we're gone.
Didn't bother listening to the rest of his ramblings. I just counted his ""Tuloys"".
Tuloys I counted: 51",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"""life is hard""
thanks for that, INC",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,How many absences can a member have until it raises questions? I'm getting so tired of these boring lectures. Do they have to be consecutive absences or does it not matter?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"Least favorite end of PPV prayer minister prayed ... God ZANG that mf is annoying,,,,,,,, *anyway* umm, what even is there to say about the doctrine and gospeelll of our beloved EVM???...... nothing. Theres just. Nothing there. It was UNBELIEVABLY stale, there was nothing 2 laugh at except for the overabundance of 'TULOY!'
I feel bad for the poor reader who has to sit there and be interrupted by mister edward manalo, throw the bible at him at least once, sir !!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"I don't actually completely despise this PPV because honestly I'm just refreshed that it's not some Anti-Social Media shit that plagued the entirety of February. The lesson isn't the worst as well. Good things will happen if you believe in God. I don't recall any notable bad things about this lesson though it's probably because I was barely awake during the entire thing. It's not bad but it's still an INC lesson and it's still a PPV so it's still mega sleep-inducing. Literally the only reason why I didn't fall asleep completely was because my dad was next to me. Now about the lineup:
489, 354, 423: Utter disappointments why the hell did they just repeat the lineup from last Sunday? 489 is still really fun though.
514: Interesting. This is probably going to be sung in the Holy Suffer 2022 but I guess it makes its debut in this PPV. It's pretty good but I feel like it will grow on me after quite some time. I love the peacefulness of the chorus. The lyrics have some anti-doubting and feel way too controlling of your emotions. Like it's literally titled ""Do Not Be Anxious over Anything"".
Processional 1 is pretty fun but Processional 2 sucks ass. It feels like a faster officer hymn.
I'd rate this a 5/10. It's slightly better than the regular worship service but it's definitely one of the more sleep-inducing ones. Great hymns (despite being egregious repeats) that get cancelled out by long, drawn-out lesson.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"Who is this ""Jesus Christ"" you speak of?
This cult is all about Eduardo V. Manalo. Lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"And whole family and ""katulongs"". Household servants? Church helpers? Who knows? As long as everyone in his circle gets those ""blessings"". And protection. Because everyone's out to get you when you're at the top and a paranoid, bald freak.
Not his siblings though. I remember Matt Pareja praying for their destruction right in front of him. I missed it but he probably was smiling when those lines were said. The best he could do is make them rot in jail. And the mother? What has become of her?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,EVM just loves to hear his name.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"**Originally Scheduled Hymns:**
* These hymns are now relegated to the ""backup plan"" in case a locale can't connect to the PPV streaming.
* 34 (""I Pray to You"")
* 328 (""Give Praise to Him, Give Praise to Him"")
* lecture hymn (originally from Dec. 2021 thanksgiving)
* 369 (""I Will Intensively Renew My Life"")
* Not helping is that after the titledrop is the lyric, ""I promise You unconditional obedience.""
* 456 (""Rejoicing is Certain to Come"")
* 458 (""I Will Hold Fast the Election I Have"")
* Let me just type out the second stanza (and hope this doesn't get taken down):
* *Because of my divine relationship with You*
*Before our God and You O Lord, my services are true,*
*And I receive an answer to my every prayer—*
*How woeful, then, it is for one who leaves and turns away!*
* Nitpick: Why are 456 & 458 in this order when they were reversed in Holy Supper 2018?
* 440 (""Firmly Hold onto the Teachings"")
* lecture pre-sermon showtune
* 293 (""Truly, We Will Be Victorious"")",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"EVM just needs to inject his interpretation between the verse so it seems like he's nOt LiKe ThE oThEr ReLigIoNs.
Gotta love how they replaced ""Don't be depressed"" with ""Don't be anxious."" Mental health doesn't exist to them, it's great! /s
Officers prayer hymns are fairly common in prelude lineups, though generally they aren't in the middle?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"Oh, was it 52 Tuloys? I must have missed one while I dozed off. I only counted 51.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"they mentioned social media again. can you just say ""reddit"" already and put us all out of our misery, thanks
No please no if he said that My mom is gonna force me to delete Reddit",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,">• they mentioned social media again. can you just say ""reddit"" already and put us all out of our misery, thanks
**THE INC FEARS REDDIT**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,What does they say in the first half?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,😖🤮🤬😴,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,Im sure they were high-pitched screaming while 'submitting'.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,Wow!! Amazing True CULT preaching at it’s FINEST!!! Satan is truly getting his souls from the Iglesia Ni Christo members. It’s unreal that the Iglesia Ni Christo preaches false prophecy and the members has no clue that they are being brainwashed and lied to in the INC worship service’s.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"Still here.
Alive, salty and kickin. lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,">""life is hard""
Correction: Life is hard for all you... - except for me.""
\- EVM",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,Depends.. I've been MIA for a while..still no word yet... don't know don't care..school ismy excuse incase I do get asked😏,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,Two consecutive missed brainwashing sessions,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"A great part of the first segment of this lesson was about ""trust"" and why people or members So not have the things they need or that they do not have their prayers answered; ""maybe check your level of trust in God brethren!""
Everyone put their rational thinking hats on for a moment and if anyone still believes INC is holy for one hot second. If just ONE of these ministers, officers, members has the faith and the trust in God, wouldn't this pandemic be over with ONE prayer like Gideon and other prophets asked of God? It takes just one prayer of faith to be answered. Says so in the bible. Gideon himself asked for signs because he didn't believe it all--yet--and God answered ALL of his prayers as they were asked. Rational thought #2, and this was IN THE LESSON though they never dwell on the ""wait wait wait, what did that verse just say?"" part of any verse they read. They quickly gloss over it and move to the one phrase that supports their point. At the beginning Eddie-boi really made it a point to tell you about the situation of Gideon. I won't go into the detail of the fact that the situation Gideon and his people were in were God's doing to begin with... but notice that an angel of the Lord was the one who spoke to Gideon. Gideon did not trust of believe what this angel was saying, so then what happened? Tuloy!!! GOD appeared to Gideon himself and told him the news and what he should do. God. Appeared. To. Gideon. For the agnostics and atheists who used to be in the INC, wouldn't this be all you needed to say, ""Yup, okay your book is legit.""??? Why not say God has some sort of form instead of saying he's invisible?
Sorry, when I hear verses that completely contradict their teachings or contradict what are other claims in the bible, it is frustrating.
Main point: Things that need to be resolved in the world, show us the power of God with that one prayer that solves it. Elijah did it, Moses did it, Elisha did it, Aaron did it, Gideon did it, David did it, Solomon did it, Hezikiah did it, Daniel did it, etc... Jesus and the Apostles did it. Come on Eddie, solve the pandemic. Or pray to God to give all the members luxurious jobs so you can get paid!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"They usually repeat the previous lineup for PPV with minor adjustments. But some of the new compositions are looking rather interesting. Awful lyrics, of course, but interesting.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,Lol I’ve never heard of him!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,Hypocrisy at its finest! That’s the foundation of this cult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,They all have Narcissistic Personality Disorder to some degree 😬,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"True, true, and true! I’m not sure if they just combined multiple sets of preludes haphazardly (might also explain why 324 would directly follow 214) or if they just didn’t feel like putting other hymns in the preludes for some reason",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"Hmm, could also be that I might have overestimated, or counted one when there really wasn’t one",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,Basically just going over the story of Gideon and the Midianites,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,The fuck. That's hard to work around,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"Which sucks because now some of those really rare hymns that only get sung in PPVs have absolutely no chance of ever being sung now. 301, 303, 304, 307, 308, 309, 316, 320, and 384 will probably never be sung if this continues.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,Seems like it.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,"That depends on who the free laborer who is you overseer.
If they're zealous OWEs, you'll probably get badgered alot. If they're just a non-zealot OWE member who holds an office, you can probably skate by. Start by dipping out once every few weeks. 3 weeks, two weeks. Or just straight up peace out. lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Feb 25 - Feb 28, 2022)",t1609n,2022-02-25,Sure I'll try it thanks,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/weekend_worship_service_examination_feb_25_feb_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,# STOP OFFERING,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,It's good to have if someone will post here the lessons for this week's worshit service. At least trapped members will have an idea of what to expect and decide whether they are going or not to INCult worshit service.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"What we should do to remain pure so that we may remain worthy for salvation. Generic recycled lesson. Day of salvation growing nearer, life is full of hardships, obstacles, and difficulties. Conviction in our hope for salvation, our membership. Obedience, worship service, propagation, offering. Intensive renewal of life, and of course mentions of EVM sprinkled in.
I know people are wondering if INC is going to use the Russia and Ukraine situation to their advantage to fearmonger… not this lesson. imo they are preparing a future outline probably an EVM WebEX.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"Coming to church in a gay little dress but w nothing other than that, I call it operation 'Ass Bare For Manalo' Wish me luck, lads",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"I am reading that WS is about sadness.
Well, sadness is attending the insufferable INCult brainwashing sessions.
Solution: stop attending INCult brainwashing sessions disguised as worship services.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"For this week, the Filipino WS is all about family. Essentially, it insists that parents should not allow a member of the family to be out of the church; else, God will punish the whole household. Even if the parents had neglected to correct their child, such punishment will still occur.
Of course, what is 'correct' is according to the church's doctrines.
Maybe I could upload both WS videos 👀
Update:
Alright, it's now talking about being an officer and also taking up ministerial studies. Your family must be active, or else, God will not bless and will punish you :)) I wonder how members are able to say ""God bless you"" to people outside of church, when they pretty much know and believe God apparently won't.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"Started with even more doomsaying by INC and how we should obey obey obey.
I'm sure that the Russian Ukrainian conflict motivated them into doomsaying a lot at the start but they're clearly trying to avoid mentioning it directly.
Minister even paused a little after he realized that he was about to say it in his prayers then went on to say global conflicts instead.
Minister says that those who left INC have a hopeless life. To those who left INC, can anyone say this is true?
Then minister then says God will help us, we just need to pray and be patient, we are instructed by the church admin to do this, we are told to do that, intense renwal of life something something.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"What's the lesson please? I need it for the ""proof i went to church.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"The last WS made me raise so much questions like why always they preach suffering? Are we meant to suffer 24/7? Seesh. Why attending the church is more important than our daily lives? The church is always there and it will not try take you in legal action if you neglected it unlike the responsibility you have like paying bills and etc. Is like what the hecker man the minister/mangangawa just like he's reading a recital poem in a primary school! The lessons are planned ahead that the sermons doesn't care of what happening in the world. If INC boast of church all over the world, why didn't pray for their brethen that on Ukraine. It's so unfair that the hardships are being pushed on the members not the leaders and i'm sick of it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"They always say you must obey ""all"" the commandments to be saved ,you must not slip up on even 1. Based on this belief no one will be saved because everyone is guilty of sin except Jesus, sin is a transgression of the law or Gods commands, even EVM will not be saved ! Jesus made it clear he died once for all, not just a few INC members who would come 2000 years later.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,Proving God exists because it is written in the Bible is the same as proving Harry Potter exists because it is written in the Harry Potter book lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,Here’s a Better one…How’s about STOP ATTENDING,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"i agree, it has helped me to prepare what exactly the type of storm they would bring in my face. but in a way i would be worried if someone has the copies and would constantly upload them because it would put them at risk because they are essentially giving evidence to what the church has been doing. whoever would do though has guts that i will salute to i will tell you that.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"They are probably reading a discussion here and we are talking about the Russia-Ukraine war as possible event to be used by the cult for fear-mongering in their lessons.
In short, napangunahan natin sila kaya di pa nila ginagamit sa pagsamba yung about sa giyera para ipanakot sa mga kaanib na malapit na paghuhukom.
Panahon pa ng pekeng sugo nila e yan na doktrina nila, kada may giyera at kalamidad e maghuhukom na. Hanggang ngayon naman yun pa rin pinang-uuto nila sa mga myembro ng kulto.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"OKAY. ummmmmm... boring ass lesson, but the minister said something about how you arent sypposed to be sad when you have problems and instead you should use it as ammunition for stronger faith. Also something abt 'pagbabagong buhay' that they dont care enough to mskr into a whole lesson in its out. And i dont even think its a part of the doctrines so yeah. Sucessfully went to a worship service in *just* a dress. Operation Bare ass for Manalo is sucessful",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"What the hell is with the first paragraph? It's not the parents' fault that their child has different beliefs. I think this is why religion shouldn't be pushed to children, but that's not allowed in INC. I just told my mom that I want to leave few weeks ago. I hope she forgets it later on. They're getting more desperate.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"Odd, thought they believe in unity and brag about it being the same lesson everywhere.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,WoW!!!! Another Amazing Misinterpretation of the HoLy Bible that’s nothing to do with Jesus Christ’s LOVE. It’s the PUNISHING by God Conditioning that the iglesia Ni Christo tactically preach to brainwash its members in believing. God/Jesus Christ has so much Care and L❤️Ve for all people. The Toxic preaching of the Iglesia Ni Christo preaches the opposite and their true intentions of causing fear to its members are truly not Gods intentions of his Gospel that’s in Jesus Christ.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,I think EVM knows what I’m trying to do…well screw them,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"> To those who left INC, can anyone say this is true?
Our lives have been more positive emotionally, mentally and financially. They were always guilt tripping, cursing, and manipulating us but we didn't bother with it.
There is more hope when you leave the cult. There is more to life and religion than just obeying Manalo until your last breath.
Proud to say we're blessed to leave the cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"P.S.
I got away with NOT Offering anything.
#StopOffering",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"I finally left and my life has never been better. I have so much peace. I don’t miss the lectures, judgement, gossip, scream prayers (that nobody is actually feeling). It’s like I became a real Christian by leaving the church. 🤣",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"Imagine…….the Holy Bible speaks of Jesus Christ’s Gospel and that he is our SAVIOR!!! The iglesia Ni Christo never ever preaches it, because by knowing the Gospel of Jesus Christ will truly show and destroy the FALSE doctrine’s of Felix and Eduardo Manalo.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,">I'm sure that the Russian Ukrainian conflict motivated them into doomsaying a lot at the start but they're clearly trying to avoid mentioning it directly.
Of course, without a doubt that INCULT will use whatever they have in their arsenal such as world events doomsday conspiracy. I fail to see why they don't mention the Russian-Ukraine conflict or better known as Putin's conflict because this is his war. The Russian people have nothing to do with it.
It's so irritating and downright stupid of them to continue with their diatribe that the world will end and only 99.9 % Filipino cult members will be saved. The belief that God creates everything and yet, will destroy the very children He created in the first place unless they are INC members is such a cruel God. But cruelty is the essence of their doctrine.
>To those who left INC, can anyone say this is true?
HELL NO! My husband and I were always happy even when while we were members but we had problems at the same time simply because of our INC memberships that were always in the middle, a shit show to say the least because it interfered in our lives.
But to make the long story short, my life, my husband's and our children lives' are so full of happiness and complete ever since we left. I can't even begin to describe it. I don't mean to be boastful but we have everything. Something I can't say for my OWE In-laws. Now they are in a world of painful mess.
>Then minister then says God will help us,
Ministers would always say that. It's like dangling a candy to a baby. It's an empty promise for gullible members. It's their way of holding on to the members by lying them that their lives will get better
I believe that God (if you still believe in one) will help if you help yourself. Therefore, going to the chapel and praying for financial independence is not going to happen if you don't do anything about. Wishing is totally different than to actually do the work by looking for work.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,And this is why we need the lesson,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"I’m glade your sick of it!!!! It’s been a brainwashing conditioning type of preaching for the gain of the INC members Money ever since it’s been created. Imagine this when the ministry preaches its Gods commandments to offer “Thanksgiving”. The manipulation the INC members don’t see is that this is what the Administration preaches to collect MONEY and the brainwashing of using it as Its Gods commandment to give money. Truly it’s a False doctrine of the iglesia ni Christo because God doesn’t need money, he has everything and has created everything through Jesus Christ. The iglesia Ni Christo’s name is using Christ’s name and they don’t even preach his Gospel of LOVE, CARE, and FORGIVENESS for all people who call upon him. The so called “Membership” of the iglesia Ni Christo is a CULT manipulation of the Bible and a big FAT LIE!!! The INC preach’s that through the Manalo Administration is the only way for Salvation is such a big fat LIE and another brainwashing conditioning tactics that the ministry preaches to their members.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"It’s the controlling tactics that the iglesia Ni Christo uses on their members. The sufferings and condemnation of God wanting people to suffer is a Constant Conditioning tactic that the Manalo Administration uses to control their members. This tactic is also used in offerings of money. The brainwashing conditioning tactics that the INC preaches to its members of FEAR and SORROW truly is not what God/Jesus Christ condone’s. Through Jesus Christ’s Gospel, God wants PEACE, HARMONY, and LOVE for all people to experience, and that’s truly the opposite of what the iglesia NI Christo/Manalo Administration conducts in their preaching.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"Hi John, I agree though for some members who are trapped, they can't leave yet and therefore, they can be passive-aggressive about it. Hence, attend and be a million miles away and most of all, don't give any money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,I don't think it would put them at risk by uploading those worshit lessons here. That cult needs to be exposed.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"Hmmm, wait, this is for the weekend; sorry about that 😅, having midweek is quite new here and had only been a few months.
Also, yeah, we only had one per week. Sadly turned into a pseudo-twice a week even though we do both midweek and weekend in one session (two hours+).
I do not have access to the midweek lesson since it's read by the assigned minister or head deacon prior to weekend WS.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"To INC ministers, I hope you're reading this my ""holier than thou"" dudes.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"Best part of waking up.
Is no offering in the cup.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,# STOP OFFERING,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"Sounds so far from hopeless, quite the opposite actually, it's a blessing to leave INCult. Hope those INCult ministers read this too.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,">I fail to see why they don't mention the Russian-Ukraine conflict or better known as Putin's conflict because this is his war.
Someone mentioned in one of the posts here that the INCult will use that war to guilt-trip its members and for fear mongering, and the possible lesson is about this war.
They probably reading the posts here and decided not to mention Russia or Ukraine to avoid being busted or accused of romanticizing the event.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"The only curse and doom here is that INCult is still standing to this day. Hell doesn't scare me anymore for I'm already in hell just by being stuck in INC.
If people feel happy about leaving INC then clearly, there is something wrong with the church. Of course being a cult, they'll try to say that there is something wrong with the ones leaving instead. INC members should read more about what it's like outside INC.
To be honest, I don't really believe in God or in the Bible anymore. I only believe that success comes through learning and hard work. I plan instead of praying before doing the work.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"And the their ""Membership"" is the opposite of what Jesus Christ's humility is.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"In INC teaching, they are forever in sorrow and hardship and the only escape is the ""bayang banal"" but in Jesus Christ's gospel, sometimes there is hardship in life and there's a lot of solution to it through his teachings. INC killed ""hope"" for it's members. What is left for them is blindly follow on their administration that is sad thing to see.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,Imagine…….being trap makes it more of a CULT!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,"Oh boy 2+ hour services, must be hell for everyone, especially officers. Haven't seen too many locales where that happens, interesting.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 01 - Mar 03, 2022)",t49tss,2022-03-01,You definitely said it and got it right!!!! The iglesia Ni Christo preaching does KiLL all HOPE. The truth that the INC members don’t see nor feel in the Gospel of Jesus Christ is very sad because Jesus Christ has a lot of Love and forgiveness for all❤️🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t49tss/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_01_mar_03/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"For the young ones who are awakening to the lies, manipulation, extortion, and evils of this cult, my message for you is that you are free to disagree and assert your human rights and dignity against your parents. When financially able, leave home. You will find support outside of this sick cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"Indoctrination seminar geared towards parents telling them to indoctrinate their children, make them have offices while they’re young for an increased chance of salvation, groom them young about giving offering, monitor their activities, and basically forcing their identity to be INC before these children and youth have a chance to discover who they are.
They also emphasized that every member in the household needs to belong to INC if we want salvation, which is hilarious considering EVM’s fractured household.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,Cult must be alarmed by the rising number of young “wokes”,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"TGIF. Not to rub it in, but I am just so glad that I no longer attend those wretched 2 x a week brainwashing sessions disguised as INCult WS. Happy weekend everyone.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,Lmao guess they're now aware that Gen Z childrens are not having their bullshit doctrines and are now convincing their parents to leave the cult (like myself).,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"The lesson was disturbing and triggering as f***. Encouraging parents to monitor their children to make sure they comply with the demands of the church administration aka God's commands.
They then tell us to give money, participate in church activities, find recruits aka propagate and do free labor for the church aka accept office for the church while telling the young members to do the same. Definitely not a cult.
Well, it's holy suffer season again. All of this suffering for just a shot of welch and a tiny piece of bread.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"* Condensed/Paraphrased Title: Qualities Families Must Have to Receive Salvation
* Deadly Themes: Don’t Leave the INC & Other Religions Are Wrong
* The Administration (EVM) mentioned repeatedly throughout sermon
* Deut 29:18
* Gen 7:1, 5, 7
* Gen 18:19
* 1 Sam 3:13
* 1 Kings 18:17-18
* 2 Tim 1:4-5
* Joshua 24:15
* Gen 12:8 (offerings mentioned here)
* 1 Cor 16:15-16
* 2 Sam 7:28-29
* Ps 71:5-6, 18, 15
* obligatory mention of: obedience & “popular belief”
* glaring omission of: Deut. 24:16 & Ezek. 18:20 (both verses about how each individual person pays for his/her sins)
* Of course they would do that; they want as many people to remain in the cult by cherry-picking verses that make it sound like every last member of a family must be in the INC lest some unfortunate event(s) happen.
* Eph 6:4 (the one about not provoking your children to anger) was also omitted ~~I WONDER WHY~~
**Hymns**
* Officers’ prayer hymn 235 includes an obligatory lyric about the church: “…I still remain inside Your dear Church…” (yes, they would capitalize that)
* Hymn 124 includes a refrain about loving and defending the church (even in the pre-2012 edition).
* Hymn 54 is literally titled “Our Worship Service” and revolves around not forsaking it.
* Of course 424, the (in)famous “As For Me And (All) My Family”, plays ([YouTube link](https://youtu.be/7E_V-WzrFkU)). It has 2 stanzas that mention a member’s calling into the fold/church and a refrain that mentions treasuring the election s/he and his/her family received. (As if FOUR verses and a refrain sung twice weren’t enough, it also apparently needed a coda!)
* Hymn 80 is literally titled “It Is Our Duty To Share” (lol I initially typed “Shart”). Nothing like a lecture hymn on propagation to prepare you for some horrific homily.
* 298’s title is “The Teachings We Receive In Worship Services”. Oh, Music Dept. and your lecture non-hymns…",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,Is someone trollling in this thread? I've been seeing removed comments here.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,Once again another Cult preaching!!! The sad thing is they are not preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. The minister instead preached that Felix Manalo was sent by God to preach the Cult ministry. They recognize and preached the money offerings and once again preaching that it’s a commandment of God. Truly Truly it’s a business Cult toxic practice and manipulation of the Bible of offerings to by a way to heaven. Please God help the ministry of the iglesia Ni Christo to learn and preach the Unconditional Love of Jesus Christ’s Gospel and rid the brainwashing ministry of the Felix Manalo FALSE preaching.🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,Is my locale the only one who had a video streaming with Ka Eduardo Manalo? 30 ministers ordained after an already long drawn out sermon about judgement day coming soon? Why do I feel like I went to a different service than everyone else? lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,15.2k. Yea babyy let's goo.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"But find and know the unconditional L❤️VE of Jesus Christ’s Gospel, so that he can guide a path for you as you truly trust in him. Love your parents more!!! As you don’t want to cause hatred towards them because Jesus Christ wouldn’t condone that type of mentality. Jesus Christ’s Love is for you and your parents, he wouldn’t want you to have any hate in your heart for anyone especially your parents. HATE is what the iglesia Ni Christo preaches, look what Eduardo did to his own mother and that example should truly show what type of Church the Manalo Administration is.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"While I wholeheartedly agree, however I think you will find that the Family Law in the Philippines gives parents an enormous power and control over their children, unlike elsewhere in the world.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"yea fuck the families split apart by my church, including my own ~eddie boi, probably",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"The young generations love to explore the internet, searching and all.
eduardo's tactic is to force parents to watch over their children even if they have their own lives and families to make sure that they will remain inside the cult.
Kahit pamilyado na e kelangan pa rin diumanong subaybayan o pakialaman ng magulang ang kanilang mga anak.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,Same. Happy Weekend everyone!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"Yes I understand to always watch out for your children because as a parent myself, it is our job to always protect them. But the word “monitor” shows INC’s paranoia. Paranoia towards your children is doom to major consequences.
Trust and respect are the cornerstone to ALL relationships especially between parents-children. It is a two-way street. Without trust, all relationships cause instability and doom to failure.
Parents can’t be with their children 24 - 7 and that’s why parents hope that their children will make the right decision on any given situation based from what parents taught their children. Therefore, by INCs standard that parent to monitor their children is a red flag and one day, it will bite them in the ass. When kids felt that their very own parents don’t trust them, then their home environment will become an emotional prison from which they will do anything to escape.
I hope INC parents will rethink this Big Brother Is Watching You Propaganda because it will only promote a negative environment. Children will find a way and with the resilience of the Generation Z, INC will doom to fail.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"That explains why my mom asks me too many questions (about my routine, boyfriend and other stuff; makes me so annoyed when she asks those personal questions) even though she knows that I'm not a member anymore.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04," INCult cites Deuteronomy 29:18 and concludes it be about iglesia or church as stated from the Tagalog lesson transcript in another post. The church was established by Jesus Christ in the New Testament Matthew 16. Deuteronomy 29 is about a covenant of God with the JEWS. It says so on the opening verse. Deut. 29:1""These are the terms of the covenant the Lord commanded Moses to make with the Israelites in Moab, in addition to the covenant he had made with them at Horeb.""
That is how INCult distorts and misuses the Bible to falsely support the Manalo doctrine. Total disrespect to context. They smash the verses together with total disregard to what the respective ancient Jewish writers were trying to convey to its readers in the forwarding story of Bible God.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"I remember someone replied ""wrong"" in my comment here and it got removed lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,Kulang na kulang na siguro yung pumapasok na pondo kaya maisingit lang sa leksyon yung tugkol sa handugan hahaha,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"Interesting, we were told we are going having a video streaming with EVM this Sunday. Maybe you’re just getting it a week early",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"The Family Code is an idealistic law, to say the least. The cult's collectivist values are heavily derived from Asian cultures and Filipino traditional norms, which I'm sure you understand is antithetical to Western individualist mindsets.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"Sometimes a culture needs to adjust and change. And with it the laws based on those cultural artifacts need to be changed.
Maturity of a culture means that the culture is self reflective and will hold on to values, traditions, and laws that are good and remove values, traditions, and laws that are not good.
Immaturity of a culture means they cling to old values and laws without any self reflection or comprehension of what is bad about those traditions, values, and laws",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"Exactly. Bar this one, I can remember two recent worshit services where they explicitly tell parents to monitor their children's internet activity. And multiple ones where the lesson warns people of social media leading people astray.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"I don't know, if Mama and Papa Manalo had monitored Eduado a little more closely, he might be a little better at his job. lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,">Trust and respect are the cornerstone to ALL relationships especially between parents-children. It is a two-way street. Without trust, all relationships cause instability and doom to failure.
Amen!
The cult would rather have ""fear"" as a foundation of all of their relationship. Even with God and vice versa (always setting up trials for members *to see if they are faithful to him still*)
If I had their level of paranoia, I could probably trip on my way to the kitchen and be like ""AMMAAA, I THANK YOU FOR TESTING ME. GIVE ME STRENGTH FOR HIS MUST BE A TEST. I LOVE YOU OH GOD"". In other words, like a fking fanatic.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"On the other hand, Filipino traditional norms are awash with superstitions, as I am sure you are aware.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"Yep, although superstition is a concept that exists in some shape or form regardless of culture.
A heavy focus on parental authority also isn't exclusive to INC or Filipinos, though.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 04 - Mar 07, 2022)",t6ktuj,2022-03-04,"I think you will find that superstition is more prevalent in many Spanish-rooted cultures (Filipinos, Mexicans etc.) compared with non-Spanish, and that the Family Law in the Philippines is far more ""controlling"" compared to many ""Western"" countries, so naturally, any religion that has its roots in the Philippines will be far more demanding of children.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 08 - Mar 10, 2022)",t9ingv,2022-03-08,"Ugh...doomsday preaching BS again.
They finally mentioned the Russia Ukraine war alongside the pandemic. Yet they still mention their special offerings for Africa and not Ukraine because of course it'll have to be for Africa cause they get converts there. INC doesn't do things out of kindness after all.
EVM's BS special again this weekend. Get ready to count those tuloys again.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t9ingv/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_08_mar_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 08 - Mar 10, 2022)",t9ingv,2022-03-08,"Idk same old generic garbage we’ve heard over and over, just a different day. End is coming near be faithful. Attend worship services, give offerings, our beloved executive minister loves us and wants us to be saved…. Etc 🥱🥱🥱
Btw aid to humanity offering this coming weekend… for ~~Ukraine~~ … Africa?!?! Oh and also EVM PPV for the weekend…",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t9ingv/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_08_mar_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 08 - Mar 10, 2022)",t9ingv,2022-03-08,"#[Tagalog HWS Text](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t9uvi1/midweek_hws_lesson_mar910_tagalog/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
* “The Chosen People of God Must Stay the Course until It Is Finished to Be Certain of Salvation”
* DT: Don’t Leave the INC
* Objectives
* Explain that we must not allow the adversities of life to distract us from the purpose of Christ for us to be certain of salvation.
* Show what also may cause distractions in people’s lives and what is needed to overcome all of them.
* Explain the duty of each Church of Christ member in staying the course to be sure of being blessed.
* Teach what Church members should ask from God to stay in their course until the end so they can be certain of God’s promise of salvation.
* 2 Tim. 3:1
* Prov. 4:25 (Msg.)
* Mark 4:19
* Luke 9:62 (TLB)
* Luke 10:4
* Luke 21:10-11 (LDB), 25-26
* Luke 21:18-19
* 2 Cor 12:9-10
* 2 Tim 4:7 (LDB)
* Ps 119:1-8
* Ps 119:33-40
* I stole a glance at the title and objectives on the teacher’s guide.
* The listed translations are from the Tagalog text; I omitted the Tagalog translations.
* It wouldn’t be a WS w/o hymns on obedience/submission (313; 212; 139; 178 (212 & 178 doubling as lecture hymns)), an officers’ prayer that includes a mention of remaining in the church (EDIT: 189, not 103), or a lecture recessional hymn mentioning not forsaking the WS (298).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t9ingv/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_08_mar_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 08 - Mar 10, 2022)",t9ingv,2022-03-08,"The main point of these worshit service lessons these days is to keep the inc cult alive, to sustain the lives of these freeloader bible preaching beggars who don't have a real job.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t9ingv/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_08_mar_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 08 - Mar 10, 2022)",t9ingv,2022-03-08,"INCult has no interest in Ukraine (humanitarian or business).
It's funny how the Philippines ranks high in worlds poorest countries but for some reason there's been a consistent push for offerings to Africa. Lol.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t9ingv/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_08_mar_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 08 - Mar 10, 2022)",t9ingv,2022-03-08,"I happened to attend tonight and ALL of these verses are non-traditional bible translations so they all sounded fake--if you knew what they were supposed to say.
The worker i listened to tried to equate the wars mentioned (which they always equate to WW1) to what is going on in Ukraine! No one batted an eyelash... either no one was listening or paying attention or they were all just brainwashed to hearing what they thought they needed to hear. It was sad.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t9ingv/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_08_mar_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 08 - Mar 10, 2022)",t9ingv,2022-03-08,It's for ~~their business venture~~ all the poor souls in Africa!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t9ingv/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_08_mar_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 08 - Mar 10, 2022)",t9ingv,2022-03-08,"I laughed at their basis wherein the verse addressed the people there saying ""*masagana naman kayo...""* Are all members of INC *masagana* or rich right now?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t9ingv/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_08_mar_10/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 08 - Mar 10, 2022)",t9ingv,2022-03-08,"They sure love their non-traditional translations: GNB, LDB, T4T, MSG, and especially Lamsa. Especially when they want their members to obey and never complain, forgot what verse it was, but no other translation said anything about obedience, but they picked an odd translation so it did.
Even in their offices, they quoted Psalm 98:4 from MSG so it'd say ""Strike up the band.""
Hell, sometimes they use the Easy English translation, probably since they don't understand idioms.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t9ingv/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_08_mar_10/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"Came at the last minute, offered nothing, got EVM's BS and their cry praying on tape, left asap.
No to critical thinking, yes to blind obedience, be like Abraham, be willing to kill you own kids too...
Didn't bother to listen anymore after that.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"**Sermon**
* overview: obedience, being God's friend
* Social Media was briefly mentioned
* [James 2:23](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/James%202:23)
* [Exodus 33:11](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Exodus%2033:11)
* [Proverbs 17:17](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Proverbs%2017:17)
* [Hebrews 11:8](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Hebrews%2011:8)
* [Genesis 12:1 (UDB)](https://read.bibletranslationtools.org/u/WycliffeAssociates/en_udb/)
* In an attempt to guilt-trip anyone who complains about anything, EVM claims Abraham did not grumble or moan. Question is: Did Abraham have to tolerate EVM and/or the rest of the INC admin?
* [James 2:21](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/James%202:21)
* Yet more guilt-tripping occurs as EVM calls out anyone who refuses a duty or misses an INC activity.
* [Romans 4:18-21](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+4%3A18-21&version=NKJV)
* doubters called out here
* EVM claims that as other religions decline, INC carries on. If you repeat a lie enough times...
* [Hebrews 11:24-27](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+11%3A24-27&version=NKJV)
* Apparently even in Abraham's time, the people believed in Judgment Day. How exactly does one define ""so near""?
* [Numbers 12:3](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Numbers%2012:3)
* [Psalm 149:4 Passion](https://www.bible.com/bible/1849/PSA.149.4.TPT)
* [Re-read in New Living](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+149%3A4&version=NLT)
* [James 4:4](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/James%204:4)
* [I John 2:15-17](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I+John+2%3A15-17&version=NKJV)
* social media mentioned! Of course, EVM would rather not mention Reddit.
* [Deut 10:12-13, 20-21](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+10%3A12-13%2C+20-21&version=NKJV)
* If EVM tells the ordinands to give the brethren hope, then why do we only ever seem to hear doom-and-gloom, offer, obey and never complain, this that and the other?
* [Psalm 25:1-5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ps+25%3A1-5&version=NKJV)
**Hymns**
As u/formerlyfaithful mentioned, the hymns this PPV are repeated from [last weekend](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t6ktuj/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_04_mar_07/hzjkqgn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3), with three exceptions:
* 515 instead of 54
* lecture/obedience hymn, includes a church namedrop in the refrain ([lyrics below](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/comment/i0e68cp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3))
* 516 instead of [424 (""As for Me and My Family"")](https://youtu.be/7E_V-WzrFkU)
* submission/obedience ([lyrics below](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/comment/i0e68cp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3))
* 387 (""His Teachings Are the Light"") instead of 80
* lecture hymn
Same preludes as [last PPV](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t1609n/comment/hyjdhlt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), with an interlude of 211 (""Father, We Thank You So Much""). Hymn 6 (""My Salvation Rests in My Duty"") plays in the background during the ordination excerpt.
**Prayer Times**
For those who don't yet know, ministers don't seem to spend much time praying to or even for Christ, despite being part of the Church of Christ. Although I didn't time the final officers' prayer, I did time the rest. My findings:
* Officers' opening prayer - 4 minutes, 57 seconds
* Christ gets 33 seconds, or about 11.1% of the prayer.
* Opening prayer - 5:57
* Christ - :15 (4.2%)
* Post-lesson prayer - 8:27
* Christ - :32 (6.3%)
* Post-ordination prayer - 4:13
* Christ - :14 (5.5%)
* Assuming the final officers' prayer lasted roughly the average of 2 minutes, this would put the total praying time at around 26 minutes. Unless Christ got at least 26 seconds in the final officers' prayer, he didn't even get 2 minutes over all 5 prayers.
**Other Metrics**
* Total PPV - 1h34m36s
* Sermon - 51m33s
* Pakinggan Niyo/Listen Count - 15+ (I was dozing off, so I may have missed a few.)
* Tuloy Tally/Continue Count - 31+",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"What kind of friend needs complete obedience and submission to them, having the other spend all their time serving them, and if they go out of line, cuts them off and gives no remorse? That is not a friendship, but an abusive codependency of one towards the other. It’s utterly disgusting that the cult tried to liken that to God and the members.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"I missed the service the past weekend. I tried to attend with my family, but lo and behold we arrived 10 mins prior to the start and they closed the gate on us! Must be different even when it’s a prerecorded service by evm but we didn’t punish ourselves for it. Instead we went to the mall and had a very blessed Sunday spent together as a family😇",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"Topic is about how to make God our friend. EVM used Abraham (particularly how he was willing to kill his son lol) and Moses to justify submission and obedience. So, to be God's friend, you must submit and obey.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"_aKIIIING,,,, hanDOOOOG,,,, ang aKIIIING,,,_ hatdog.
🙏",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"EVM PPV and we get introduced to two new hymns: 515 (Hold On To The Hope/Manghawak Sa Pagasang Natamo) and 516 (It Is Now Time To Lead A New Life/Magmamahalan Kami). Lecture and submission/obedience ""hymns"" respectively. 515 is a typical ""fight for the faith to gain salvation"" and 516 is about the brotherhood and having perfect faith.
Same lineup as last week except for those two: 235, 143, 124, 515, 516, 387.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"okay let's just get the Holy Supper over with we already sung all the hymns. Seriously though. Why the hell did they just randomly sing all of the new hymns? We had 514 two weeks ago and 515/516 today. And what happened to 513? I haven't heard of it nor have I ever seen anyone with the notes for it. And when will they just stop using the first two hymns from the previous week? Also why go with 387 when there are infinitely better before-text songs out there? And why does 516 sound like a hybrid of 451 and CWS 85 (I think that CWS 85 and 516 were composed by the same person but correct me if I'm wrong)? Wow I have so many questions so screw it I'll just get to talking about the hymns.
143: solid.
124: whatever.
515: might grow on me but so far I don't like it.
516: good but it might grow on me like 514 did (also it doesn't have as embarrassingly awful lyrics like 514 does).
387: God, you are so cool. Although sometimes it's like what's the deal? You never answer your cellphone, and your messages are often ambiguous. Amen. (I'm sorry I had to do it)
The lesson is whatever. Didn't hate it, didn't like it, didn't care. 4/10 worship service.
Edit: WHAT THE FUCK I JUST GOT THE LINEUP FOR THE HOLY SUPPER AND 514, 515, AND 516 WON'T BE SUNG!?!?!?!?!?!? WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!?!? I guess I understand the reason why they debuted these early now. Also 83 is in the lineup.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"Attendance at my local has been real low post pandemic, you can really tell those between 20ish to early 30s have really woken up to the fact that every service always leads to EVM and administration. ""If you do not attend bible studies how can you can be worthy of God's grace, you must show your obedience to the administration by attending bible studies and bearing fruit. In order to be saved you must abide and comply"".
It's getting ridiculous tbh.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"EVM failed to make God the friend everyone wants. He made God sound more like a Mafia don than anything else.
And that fucking prayer was too long. I swear in the Bible it says that prayers should be short and sweet.
I didn't care for the rest of the lesson. Fuck EVM.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"We should ""obey and never complain"" to God's teachings just like Moses and Abraham. Mentioned social media once. After-lesson Prayer for evm was soooo lengthy.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,I don't want to be friends with someone who'll manipulate and tell me how to live. Fuck evm's fictional merciless god.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"About Abraham lol.
obey and never complain; be blind like Abraham my friends.
Edit: and Moses too; also follow evm este god blindly so we can be his friend 🤦♂️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"We should normalize calling it:
#Abrahamic INSANITY!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,Does anyone have this weekend's ws lesson?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,As if God would want to make friends with eduardo manalo. That delusional fat-ass freak.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"Today’s Cult worship service!!”TRUE FRIEND”Eduardo’s preaching doesn’t preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ which is the way, the truth and the life. Eduardo’s preaching consist of a manipulated and straight to God type of Gospel, nothing to do with Jesus Christ. The mentioning of a “true Friend” with GOD what a JOKE!!! Another manipulation of the Bible that has nothing to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ! The ordained ministers carry out their duties to serve the Manalo Administration and not the Gospel of Christ Jesus, Cult Conditioning at its Finest!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,Making a tuloy/pakinggan niyo compilation now. It's too bad I have to turn it into video first.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"**515: ""Hold on to the Hope""**
1
>Hold on to the hope that we have attained;
With love, let's proclaim God's salvation and grace.
Rejoice, for it's near—redemption will come;
God's promise is true, so let's stand our ground.
Refrain
>In the heavenly city of God—
The New Jerusalem,
We'll join millions and millions of angels in praises!
In that glorious land, no tears will be shed,
And we'll finally receive true life—
Yes! This is the promise of God,
To the true CHURCH OF CHRIST.
2
>Hold on to the hope that we have attained;
In hardships and sufferings, be strong and be brave.
Obey the Lord God, like Lord Jesus Christ,
Let's follow God's will and do what is right.
3
>Hold on to the hope that we have attained;
Oh, see all God's goodness in all that we face.
He hears all our prayers, for we are his own;
God's promise is true; He will take us home!
**516: ""We Will Love One Another""**
1
>It is our hearts' desire, O Lord Jesus, that we fully prove
That we are Yours indeed, faithful followers redeemed by You.
Thus, we now are resolved in exhorting one another, Lord,
Lifting up those in need, gladly helping them with one accord.
Refrain
>We will love one another as brethren You brought in the Church,
That our Father in heaven will always be so pleased with us.
In our journey through this world toward the glorious home that You prepare,
Yes, we will help one another, Lord, to become perfect in our faith.
2
>This is our fervent prayer—O Lord Jesus may You see in us
That we have learned from You how to genuinely dwell in love.
Thus, we, too, are prepared in forgiving one another, Lord,
And most steadfast and firm in renewing our lives evermore.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,">Total PPV - 1h34m36s
>
>Sermon - 51m33s
better start daydreaming again. more productive than listening to more vapid preaching.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,You had a very blessed Sunday indeed!! Nice!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,Fear your friend,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"I’m other words, modern day slavery.
Nothing new, hell it’s been that way since the beginning.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"by that implication, if INC tells you to kill your children, you would do it, because if you don't, ~~EVM~~ God smite thee",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,🤣😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,tf💀💀💀,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,">Same lineup as last week except for those two: 235, 143, 124, 515, 516, 387.
Should be fair to assume this trend every PPV WS. They're recordings of a WS over the recent few weeks.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,387 new revised lyrics leaked 😱😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"Here’s a suggestion, check out 995theword.com to know the gospel of Jesus Christ and the truth of his gospel that the Iglesia Ni Christo doesn’t preach. Also you can watch LJ Caraangs YouTube videos and listen to what he has exposed in the Cult of the Iglesia Ni Christo.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,as it should <3,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"their prayers are getting ridiculously long here. It's been going on for, idk, months? my fidgeting got worse to the point one would think I have tics because of it. I literally hum without noticing at all.
I deadass did this and only realized it when my dad scolded me😭
Listen to ""lightswitch"" by Charlie Puth. Absolute banger. There's even someone who turned parts of it in japanese and, imo, better than the original -chef kiss-",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"It actually made me question whether or not there's an actual historical Moses. Rameses II, a real pharaoh, is accepted by many historians and Bible scholars as the leader with whom he bargained the Jewish exodus.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"A friend that uses you is no friend at all. I dont want that kind of god as a friend too.
A friend is someone who looks at you as his equal and understand you, not someone who looks down on you and threatens you with death all the time kind of what god is doing to his servants.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"I cant even with the INC god. Have you seen the show called ""friends""? Can you picture yourself having that kind of relationship with the INC god? No lol. INC god is just going to suck your money dry while you lick his boots, and after he takes ur money, he leaves and does his thing <3
How silly of them to even make us think their god will be friends with us",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,516 sounds like Cws85,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,Yeah sort of stuff I already had anticipated growing up. I think the pandemic really woke people up especially younger generations. There is more hate in the INC teachings than the hate in the outside world.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 11 - Mar 14, 2022)",tbry3m,2022-03-11,"True. INCult members are just pathetic, including their god eduardo manalo. I can't believe they let themselves be fooled by this delusional wig-wearing cult leader.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tbry3m/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_11_mar_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,"[HWS Tagalog Text](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tfhyak/midweek_hws_lesson_mar1617_tagalog/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Takeaways on F2F Worship Service:
- Since we have now loosened restrictions, it's about time for the brethren to return to the temple for worship services.
- If one is not excited on returning to F2F worship services on the temple, he has a weak faith. Ok?
- PPS / Household worship services are now and as much as possible applicable for selected fellows -- PWDs or senior citizens.
- Anything that is approved by the Administration has guidance from our Lord God. So during the pandemic, HWS has blessings from God since it was a command by the administration. but now since our holy administration told us to go back to the temple for worship services, the minister implied (emphasis on implied) that HWS is not being graced by God anymore. 😒",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,"* What those who are unable to go to the temple or place of worship should understand and firmly believe in
* Don’t leave the INC
* Psalm 42:1-4
* Psalm 42:6, 2
* Psalm 42:11
* 1 Corinthians 14:26, 15
* Ephesians 3:16
* Matthew 18:20
* Hebrews 13:17 (mention)
* Revelation 3:20
* Lamentations 3:41
* Takeaway: Apparently you’re supposed to feel sad if you can’t worship at the chapel/temple/venue. INC seems hellbent on removing household WSes as much as possible, believing them to be ToO cOnVeNiEnT. And INC claims it’s not a cult…
**Hymns**
* 25: “We Worship You Today”
* 324: “Please Accept Our Worship Service”
* 279: “I Now Worship You”
* obedience/ duty hymn
* [463: “All My Faith and All My Trust, I Place in You, My Lord”](https://youtu.be/Ff5yjKd37lk)
* contains self-serving lyrics
* [100: “All My Days, I Will Serve You”](https://youtu.be/ZFCadk9eI0A)
* obedience/submission
* 91: “The Pure Nourishment”
* lecture hymn
* includes idolatry lyrics about the last messenger
* 298: “The Teachings We Receive in Worship Services”
* lecture hymn/showtune
**Other Comments**
* As others have mentioned, worldwide offering to ~~EVM and his primary helpers’ pockets~~ ~~help pay off a mountainload of debt~~ “Africa”
* Ever since not long after INC finally implemented household WSes, they seem to obsess over OrDeRlInEsS oF tHe WoRsHiP sErViCe. Does that even matter considering how useless these ~~worthless~~ worship services are?
* Woe to those locales whose ministers decided to elongate a shorter-than-usual “lesson”…
* Apparently it would make too much sense to gather information on just why many brethren have started dreading the WSes (Emotional control!).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,"I dread going to the WS, idk what the admins are talking about
Even when I was devout I *cannot remember a single time* I felt a lesson energized me to go forth and face the world with strong faith or whatever.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,"So the first part of the lesson's designed to program the members to feel sad when there's no F2F services.
And INC just contradicted itself.
INC used matthew 18:20 where Jesus said WHEREVER two or three are gathered in my name, I am there among them.
Then they said that Jesus won't be there because the church admin does not approve the gathering in a certain area (like our own homes) contradicting what Jesus just said.
So ""moral lesson"" is, submit to the church admin especially Eduardo V. Manalo because they are definitely above Jesus.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,"Cult brainwashing conditioning once again in this CULT service!!!! Nothing of Jesus Christ’s Gospel!!! They say Jesus Christ’s name but never ever preach his Gospel!!! Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life!!! Cult preaching of Eduardo’s Administration and membership, with a false preaching of attendance and attending the Cult. A Special offerings to Africa is false for their profit of money. Philippines has a lot of poor people that are hungry and the INC has the nerve to give money to Africa",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,"Our lesson for today is about money in the guise of offerings..Our lesson for today is to strengthen your faith, so that you will willingly give abundant offerings easily... Our lesson for today is to bring more souls inside the church, more souls, more offerings...Our lesson for today is about complete submission to the church administration, sounds like easy money collection by the church administration....the bottom line is, it all goes to money collected...whatever lesson that might be, it is all linked to money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,What the lesson for this week?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,"The minister felt like he could control our emotions.
Kept on repeating “So whenever we couldn’t go to the house of worship, we felt SAD!” Always in the same tone. “When we could go to the house of worship, we are happy, we are strengthened by God through the Holy Spirit to get through this world full of hardship.”
What really pissed me off was when he said “We feel good, not because we’re a good person, but because we received the strength and guidance through our Lord God during the Worship Service.” It really pisses me off whenever they say it doesn’t matter if you’re a good person or not, you HAVE to be in the INC to be saved. He basically implied that.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,"Another special offering for Africa next week! Hahaha! Money, money, money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,">but now since our holy administration told us to go back to the temple for worship services, the minister implied (emphasis on implied) that HWS is not being graced by God anymore.
Eww",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,"Hebrews 13:17 = YUCK!
Brings back the not so forgotten memories from 2015-2016. OBEY the Administration!!, DO NOT Question!
We heard that EVERY SINGLE WEEK!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,Well said.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,"What is hilarious about this, is that during the height of the pandemic, they were patting themselves on the back by saying this was instituted by EVM and that THESE SAME VERSES prove that people can worship God in their homes and God and Jesus will be with them where they are gathered. That God, through the Administration, made the WebEx worship services possible to continue to worship, to continue to be strengthened, blah blah... but when offering numbers are down, ""Hey, you need to go back to the chapel so we can monitor you.""
Complete nonsensical double standards. The use of the verses should not be left to their interpretation or how they feel on a given day.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,The same old crap recycled lesson.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,INC discouraging members to do Home Worship Service at least for this midweek.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 15 - Mar 17, 2022)",tepnei,2022-03-15,INDEED!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tepnei/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_15_mar_17/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 18 - Mar 21, 2022)",th1zme,2022-03-18,"I actually loved this lesson. It's an hour-long spiel on the hypocrisies of organized religion......
**WHICH THE INC ITSELF HAS IN SPADES.**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/th1zme/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_18_mar_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 18 - Mar 21, 2022)",th1zme,2022-03-18,If you don’t succeed in life it’s no else’s fault but yours and if you are successful it’s all because of God.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/th1zme/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_18_mar_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 18 - Mar 21, 2022)",th1zme,2022-03-18,"This lesson is just a giant self contradiction. Lesson was about about INC trying to differentiate what they call the religion of God (INC) and then religion of Man.
The lesson goes over four points about what they say separates the Religion of God and the Religion of man.
1. Religion of man act as if they were God’s nation that does what is right.
2. True religion obeys the commandment of God. Religion of man acts as if they have not turned away from God’s command. In truth they are no longer following God’s teachings
3. True religion purpose is to please God. Religion of man is out of convenience, it’s about what they like, not what God likes.
4. People following the Religion of man feel that their service is not being accepted.
After talking about those four points, lesson then take about “substance” of the religion of God vs the religion of Man. Instead of submitting to God’s way, people following religion of Man established their own way. They created their own system of religion. In their actions it can be seen that they are not practicing the true religion because it’s not the teachings of god and his commandments they are following. When you look at the substance, when you look at their deeds, they are not following the commandments of God.
Our minister preaching actually said this:
Look at the teachings of the Iglesia ni Cristo,
If you can find even one teaching or doctrine or practice that we do here inside this church that is not substantiated by what's written in the Bible, then this is not the true church.
When examined closely, everything about this church, its teachings and practices, and you will find it's all based upon the teachings of God written in the holy scriptures.""
2nd half of the lesson is recycled garbage about Obedience, works of propagation, not forsaking the worship service, following the church administration and church activities without question, etc.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/th1zme/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_18_mar_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 18 - Mar 21, 2022)",th1zme,2022-03-18,"Saw a lot reminders on their special offering for eco farming in africa on the way in. Cause the poor in our own country clearly don't need help. /s
So they didn't further elaborate as to what made INC different and true compared to other other religions aside from us attending WS (which other churches do too), giving ""voluntary"" offerings (which other churches do too), and following the CA (which other churches do too with their own church leaders). So they basically just said that INC is the true church because...it just is according to the bible. No cringey July 27 1914 Manalo prophecy via the warped Isaiah interpretation nor Acts 20:28 Lamsa mentioned (I'm glad they didn't).
Minister also preached that one will be successful in life if one obeys God's commands (usually meaning the CA's demands).
How exactly would one be successful in life just by devoting almost all of his/her time to the church and complying with the CA's demands? Would money, food and property just magically appear for him/her to enjoy? Would the church pay them for their time in cash instead of prayers? No, I don't think so. In the end, it's still our own actions that will determine our success. Just look at those outside INC who are successful.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/th1zme/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_18_mar_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 18 - Mar 21, 2022)",th1zme,2022-03-18,Been lurking this sub since 2000 members. This is probably my third account as well. Not sure if I can post now. Just posting here to gain more karma so that I can share my experience soon.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/th1zme/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_18_mar_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 18 - Mar 21, 2022)",th1zme,2022-03-18,"* Let us stand our ground in remaining inside the region of God and not in adhering to the religion of man
* DT: Don’t Leave the INC & Other Religions Are Wrong
* Isa 58:2-3
* Deut 10:12-13
* Rom 10:2-3
* Isa 59:2 (mentioned)
* Titus 1:16
* I John 2:3
* Zech 7:13, 11-12
* (Why the INC butchered the order remains unknown, as the correct sequence would’ve made sense)
* John 15:1, 4-7
* Job 36:11
* Prov 5:12-13
* Gal 6:9
* Ps 37:3-7
* Ps 119:116-117
* Hymns were mostly forgettable (although 157 & 151 only prove that “God’s” “love” really is conditional).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/th1zme/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_18_mar_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 18 - Mar 21, 2022)",th1zme,2022-03-18,"AGAIN!!!!! Nothing to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ!!! The minister uses the words of the Bible to manipulate and brainwash its members by talking about other religions. Nothing to do with the way, the truth, and the life of Christ Jesus. The iglesia Ni Christo speaks of other religions inventing their own ways, such hypocrisy because the INC created its own prophecy of Felix Manalo. Manipulation and brainwashing at it’s FINEST!!!! Talk about inventing a different Gospel, the iglesia Ni Christo are such hypocrites!!! They invented a hole new gospel which is truly not of Jesus Christ. They use Gods name and words in their cherry picked verses. Another repetitive preaching of ancient Israel, a tactic that the INC preaching uses to guilt trip its members. A membership preaching that’s made up and not preaching of Jesus Christs gospel. Truly manipulation of the holy Bible with cherry picked verses to brainwash its members with the TOXIC misinterpretation words of the Bible.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/th1zme/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_18_mar_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 18 - Mar 21, 2022)",th1zme,2022-03-18,#[Tagalog HWS Text](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/thvcm1/midweek_hws_lesson_mar1920_tagalog/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/th1zme/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_18_mar_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 18 - Mar 21, 2022)",th1zme,2022-03-18,nothing beats INCult in terms of hypocrisy.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/th1zme/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_18_mar_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 18 - Mar 21, 2022)",th1zme,2022-03-18,"LOL hilarious! Where should we start what INCult preaches or practices that is not in the bible? FYM prophecy? NOT in the bible. Mandatory offerings? NOT in the bible Required attendance? NOT in the bible. Salaysay? NOT in the bible The list could literally be gigantic.
Edited to add: And what bibles are they using? Because they refuse to use the original Hebrew or Greek. They use paraphrases, out of context pieces of scripture, and bible versions that fit their agenda...so who is the religion of MAN?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/th1zme/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_18_mar_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 18 - Mar 21, 2022)",th1zme,2022-03-18,"Once again the Iglesia ni Christo’s preaching has nothing to do with Jesus Christ’s Gospel, which is the way, the truth, and the life",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/th1zme/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_18_mar_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 18 - Mar 21, 2022)",th1zme,2022-03-18,"Yeah I actually thought all the things identifying the religion of man was pointing directly back at the INC, I mean come on ,they always claim to be Gods nation, most other religions dont use that term, apart from the cults that is. Once again another lesson weve heard ad nauseam ,if I was a minister I think it would do my head in teaching the same old same old almost every service I guess its their job so they just put up with it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/th1zme/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_18_mar_21/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 18 - Mar 21, 2022)",th1zme,2022-03-18,The fact that the Gospel of Jesus Christ is not preached and replaced with Felix’s prophecy truly shows this church is a CULT and not of GODS intentions in faith,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/th1zme/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_18_mar_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 22 - Mar 24, 2022)",tk3nop,2022-03-22,"Hi Auto-One,
**out of those seven deadly themes, I only see them as ""not pleasing God Almighty"" if you follow what INC wants you to do!**
**Don't leave the INC** \- **This is not up to the Administration,** but up to the individual if the INC does not teach the real truth from the Bible!!!
**Other religions are wrong** \- Compared to the INC, most religions are much more inline with God's will then them.
**Offerings** \- They are what you can comfortably afford and the original name is considered a **""tithe""** and **it is in the Bible,** being about **10%** and NO more...
**Detractors** \- Those are the **ministers of the INC!**
**Social Media against the Church** \- all is good, to make you a better ""critical thinker...""
**The Administration** \- They mainly preach lies and **should not be trusted!!!**
**Intensive Propagation** \- The Bible calls their INC type of works **""dead works""** and should not be a part of those things that waste time and money...
That is only my opinion on these ""themes!""
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tk3nop/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_22_mar_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 22 - Mar 24, 2022)",tk3nop,2022-03-22,"Just another doomsday, world is terrible, life is hard crap again. It's basically just another lesson about not leaving INC.
Executive Minister was mentioned 12 times while Jesus, only 5 times.
Prepare yourselves for Tuloy Fest this coming weekend again by our beloved cult leader...I mean Executive Monster...I mean Minister Brother Eduardo V. Manloloko.
Edit: Correction (Executive Minister not Church admin)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tk3nop/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_22_mar_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 22 - Mar 24, 2022)",tk3nop,2022-03-22,"Another day, another homily on “Other Religions Are Wrong” and “Don’t Leave the INC.” [Hymns](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/t7r6ju/march_2022_aws_lineup/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) were quite forgettable, considering the officers’ prayer hymn was the only one where we actually sang to God. And of course, the powers that be want to force another PPV down our throats this coming weekend.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tk3nop/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_22_mar_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 22 - Mar 24, 2022)",tk3nop,2022-03-22,"Prepare and stay in the cult, judgement day is upon us",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tk3nop/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_22_mar_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 22 - Mar 24, 2022)",tk3nop,2022-03-22,"I was questioned by one of my parents why I didn't prepare my offerings. Had to lie to them that I did offer after WS as much as I hate lying.
Voluntary offerings my ass...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tk3nop/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_22_mar_24/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 22 - Mar 24, 2022)",tk3nop,2022-03-22,Executed minister,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tk3nop/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_22_mar_24/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"""The world will not get better"". Imagine a spiritual leader who's suppose to give hope and spread positivity to his members preaches that?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"welp, they used the putin-ukraine war. Finally, i think.... n god was he tasteless abt it. Talked abt the gasoline prices going up and mentioned just how there will be a ""hurricane of hunger."" But then went and ask if *that* should stop us from still following God and his will.
""Real soldiers of god do not falter in their beliefs, they never waver.""
""Its evil to forsake the worship services, and its evil to stray from God.""
""Don't be sad, for God is with you -- but first, you must prove yourself truly worthy of his love.""
Aaaand then he said that the world will. never get better. because its a definitive sign of judgement day and being saved from salvation. Im just, UGJHSHGH im so tired, so unbelievably tired... He acts like this affects him from how he begged to pray so fervently to God but he sits there in his mansion with his chopper while the rest of us suffer.
What a tasteless, heartless lesson that uses the suffering of so so SO many fucking people to fearmonger and urge devoted cult members to submit harder. Disgusting.
EDIT: AND the lesson used 3 translations for once verse,.. Corithians 11: 10? I think, I dont know. But yeah, how do OWEs not see that INC just. Cherrypicks verses??? Wtf...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"**Overview**
* Topic: obedience
* Deadly Themes: Don't Leave & Other Religions Are Wrong
**Verses**
* Psalm 31:10
* Psalm 46:1-3
* Deuteronomy 31:8 (mentioned ""other translations"")
* Psalm 34:10
* 1 Chronicles 16:11, 10 (Christian Standard Bible)
* re-read in Good News Bible
* re-read in Moffatt
* Psalm 63:1-3, 7-8
* Psalm 124:1-8
* Psalm 55:22
* Psalm 119:81-83, 114
* Philippians 4:12-13
* Psalm 18:32
* Psalm 42:11
**Observations**
* usual start of calamities, trials, etc.
* mention of Russia vs. Ukraine, rising fuel prices, food shortages
* EVM claims we should never have any problems, thus showing how out-of-touch he is.
* EVM spends a good 10 seconds (over)explaining the meaning of ""evermore,"" as if to speak with grade schoolers.
* Predictably, EVM claims other religions have declined while INC continues to prevail.
* Apparently EVM needs 6 other ministers (excluding the reader) with him (5 if there’s one head deacon behind the pulpit).
**Prayers**
* Officers' Opening Prayer - 5:20
* Christ - 1:16 (23.8%)
* Manalo - 1:04 (20.0%)
* Opening Prayer - 4:58
* Christ - :14 (4.7%)
* Manalo - :24 (8.1%)
* Something about this prayer seemed off as, during the time the minister spent praying to Christ, it suddenly went to the ""these things we ask"" part without returning to the Father (unless I just missed what would have had to have been a very quick transition)
* Closing Prayer - 8:29
* Christ - :33 (6.5%)
* Manalo - :57 (11.2%)
* Officers' Closing Prayer - 1:34
* Christ - :20 (21.3%)
* Manalo - :24 (25.5%)
* Total - 20:21
* Christ - 2:23 (11.7%)
* Manalo - 2:49 (13.8%)
**Hymns**
* 183 (""I Thank You, Father"")
* 210 (""Today, I Worship You, Dear Lord"")
* 157 (""Only the Chosen Ones Will Be Given"")
* self-explanatory title
* 241 (""We Must All Prepare"")
* new composition (used to be 3/4 time in Eb with a 72bpm (?) tempo, now 4/4 time in C with a 92bpm tempo)
* still a lecture hymn on duty/preparing for judgment
* Processional Hymn 1 (""Great Victories, You Command for Your Nation"")
* self-explanatory title
* Processional Hymn 2 (""We Give Praise to You Evermore"")
* obedience lyric in 1st stanza
* 2nd stanza has the lyric: *""Father, may You still abide/With Your true and holy Church.""*
* 496 (""In Studying God's Word"")
* lecture/obedience hymn
* Same preludes as the previous 2 video streamings
* Interlude: 103 (""Have Mercy, LORD, on Me"")
**Just for Fun!**
* Sermon - 48m44s (Possibly the shortest duration for an EVM PPV?)
* Total PPV - 1h27m53s
* ""Tuloy!"" (""Continue!"") Tally - 45+
* ""Pakinggan Niyo!"" (""Listen!"") Tally - 12+
* I was dozing off, so this one (and even the “Tuloy Tally”) may be much higher.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"I'm kinda sad they're going back to the extremely vanilla ""stay and obey"" lessons, I miss last month's incredibly vile and inhuman lessons.
Anyway, like I said, this was a boring ass lesson.
So instead, let me ask: Why does EVM specifically *have to explain every single detail like we're small idiotic children????* A Bible verse says ""God will be with you"" and he has to spend 10 minutes explaining what ""God will be with you"" means.
No shit I know what ""God will be with you"" means. I passed high school language classes for Christ's sake. This lesson could've been 50% shorter if he just got on with his point. Brevity is the soul of wit, so I guess that means that INC has no wits.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,He keeps saying other religions continue to decline while INC continues to grow every single PPV and has no stats to show. I want to see how much INC continues to grow lol. My OWE spouse made a comment about how the church continues to decline in membership and that they see it everywhere.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"What I don't understand is, why does the church have an administration that somehow higher than the church? I used to go to Catholic church, I remembered they dont have attendance sheet. no sulong or urong. real offering from the heart. nobody keeping tabs of how much you have for thanksgiving. no preaching of don't talk to them (the tiwalag or expelled). It's all forgiveness, love.. no hatred, no words like ""the church enemies""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"They mentioned the Russia and Ukraine situation (\**checks off bingo card*\*) BUT they added it to say it's the reason that fuel prices are rising. Like what? what do you want us to do? you want us to stress out from a conflict between two countries because they make gas expensive?? ""oh no, fuel is totally the main problem right now."" i expected they mention it and add something along the lines of ""Russia and Ukraine's situation. Many are suffering but they won't be saved? Why? Why won't they be saved? Because they don't have God in their side. Do you know who ONLY has God on our side? We, the members of the Church of Christ blah blah blah"" I mean I guess they didn't make it a central topic but they must have done that because of political reasons and shit. If they could get it away with it, they would've mentioned the conflict as many times as they could.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"Biggest thing I was bothered with was the ""Always be active no matter what, even if you have problems.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"I understand that there’s always a Processional Hymn for chapel dedications but has there been a VSWS where there was a Processional Hymn and no chapel dedication? I just wonder if we do a special processional just bc EVM is teaching. If so, sounds like we’re glorifying EVM.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"what evm is trying to say is, even if the members are suffering due to hardships, god will be on their side as long as evm has your money offering twice a week.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"What's with the ""extraordinary/di pangkaraniwan"" happenings? I can see only normal things happening on the world. Same natural phenomena and same human errors... EVM sure loves to use that phrase.
Edit. Grammar",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"World is terrible doomsday stuff again. Russia Ukraine war has been mentioned. EVM listed all the bad things that has happened and will happen while making more ""ridiculous claims"". Fell asleep to the point where I almost started dreaming afterwards. Didn't hear anything else except tuloy, pakinggan niyo and ano pa.
Chairs were too hard to have a comfy nap but EVM's BS is so boring I ended up napping anyway, I rate my nap 6/10.
P.S.
Gone through 3 WS without offering. New record!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"We were supposed to attend last night, but the all powerful SCAN officer locked the gates on us since we arrived a minute or 2 after the Officers' Opening Prayer. Yet this morning, people were arriving even on the last song before the opening prayers.
And members thought that having faith and communing with GOD is exclusive for them due to their membership? Na-ah It's universal my friend, for every religion,cults or denominations and what nots
Listening closely to during WS he is always trying to subliminally implied that only the members can commune with SkyDaddy thus caging them on their exclusivity and elitism. Thanks for my mask i was chuckling all throughout WS.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,When Lord EVM says that life will not get any better. He really means that your life will not get any better and to continue to offer the same amount or more so that he can continue living his lifestyle.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"As I get older, its getting harder and harder to stay awake for these things. Last night's snoozefest did cause me to doze off for a few seconds.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,The irony that EVM preaching that God give us strength whenever we are worshipping him but almost all of the people at our WS are either sleep or playing their nails. Even some misters and choir fell asleep.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,Our DM always makes sure to plug the INC social media platforms after a PPV haha like it'll stop members from discovering this subreddit and shield them from critical thinking.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"Sounds like a worshit service I will happily miss! ..Don't need to attend just to be reminded how shitty the world is,other religions failing(INCult not excluded in my opinion) ,etc etc. Hard pass bruh! EVM can suck a nut sack!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"I'll just talk about the hymns. I couldn't care less about anything else.
210/157: Oh INC please stop using hymns from previous lineups actually use new hymns (please I'm being desperate for 304 just play it ffs)
241: Basically 106 if it was a lecture hymn. I kinda like it.
Processional 1/2: These two sound so similar so minus points for which one came after the other but they do sound cool when they're played back to back because of their similar melody. Also I like these two way more than any other Webex Processionals they've been blasting us with (this is the first and possible only time I'll say the Processional is actually my favorite out of the lineup).
496: I hear the descant. Just barely though. This descant is significantly worse than 470 and 469.
Another thing I want to talk about is audio quality. While it's kind of been a meme that INC Video Streamings have pretty not good quality, this one's weird. No part was unhearable (except 496's descant that is) but some parts are just normal and other parts were just plain earrape. This is a bit more tolerable than a typical worship service but intense boredom and the weak lineup are detriments. 5/10.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"eddong was going on a circular topic. Earth Ending - INC only be saved - Earth Ending - INC only be saved.
Good thing I slept through almost 70% of the service.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"INCult sees itself as a lion, when in fact INCult is just a ~~kitten~~ RAT, pretending to be a lion.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,Weblink? Hmm mukang magbibilang ulet ako ng tuloy,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"eduardo manalo is not a spiritual leader, he's a CULT LEADER.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,EVM is no spiritual leader. He is a CEO.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"Knowing the Gospel of Jesus Christ is truly one of Gods directions. God LOVED the World so much that he sacrificed his own son for us!!! Jesus was sacrificed for all our sins!!! Jesus Christ’s Gospel is the way, the truth, and the life!!! WHOEVER!!!! WHOEVER calls upon him will be saved!!! Not no membership! Not no Manalo Administration or iglesia Ni Christo Church!!! It’s WHOEVER!!!! Read the Bible members of the Iglesia Ni Christo Cult!!! Stop the cycle of the brainwashing movement!!! This is why I’m truly glad that this Subreddit forum was created, so all people and members can see the truth of how the Manalo Administration is FALSE, FAKE, and TOXIC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"Perfectly mentioned!!!! Truly the INC preaching is Cherry picked!!! When Jesus Christ said that he is the way, the truth, and the life, the only way to God is through him and not the Iglesia Ni Christo Administration!!! I’ve been listening to 995theword.com to compare the preaching and truly the Iglesia NI Christo has nothing to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"Hi Miss Ass,
like I said before, **the INC does not know the complete Bible** and only reads about 40% of that Holy book. One member told me that they only read about 25% but I think maybe a little more than that...
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"Fun fact: The processional hymns were also sung during the Ewa Beach Chapel dedication for the 50th.
EVM can't see any of our lowly peasant problems from his mansion and private aircrafts. Then needs 6 ministers so he can claim he's brought 6 souls to the church.
Anyway, thanks for doing these!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"Once again nothing OF THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST!!! Another brainwashing session that Eduardo Manalo conducts with his manipulated repetitive preaching. Thank you for posting this post, I’m truly glad that this Subreddit was created to show the people of the world the FALSE, MANIPULATED and TOXIC preaching of the Iglesia Ni Christo. God Bless you and take care🙏🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"Eduardo truly manipulate’s the Holy Bible’s words and true meaning’s. The ministry already ask God to protect him and his family which is so CULTISH, as they praise Eduardo more than Jesus Christ. The INC preaches the sake of our salvation is with the leadership of Eduardo which is another Cultish act. God truly knows that the preaching and prophecy of the Iglesia Ni Christo, Manalo Administration is the MOST FALSE preaching and misinterpreted use of the Bible. The iglesia Ni Christo never ever will preach the true Gospel of Jesus Christ which is in the New Testament that starts with the book of Matthew’s. The repetitive Cult teachings of Felix Manalo’s prophecy, Membership, Holy Supper, and Thanksgiving are all not of Gods words and preaching that the INC has manipulated to brainwash their members. I truly thank God for this Subreddit to expose the FALSE preaching of the Iglesia Ni Christo Money BUSINESS CULT 🙏🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"I think Eduardo V. Manalo needs to understand that if you take a loaf of bread and divide it into 12 slices. The volume of bread remains the same (it does not grow)
The above is what the INCult has been practicing for the last 5 years. Take existing locales, chop them up into 3-5 new smaller locales and them claim ""growth"". If anything it's been the opposite of growth.
The way this organization makes claims is hilarious.
😂",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,They just say something about “look at all the chapels being built”,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"They have an administration that is much higher than Jesus himself.
Jesus specifically prohibited any transaction withim church premises yet here the administration entices the brethren to buy Pasugo during worship services.
Jesus rebuked those who follow him after feeding 5000 people. To paraphrase, "" you are following me not because of my words but because you ate and has been filled"". But here the method of propagation used ranges from giving sacks of rice to being included with sports activities (some with free food).
I thougt the word ""Christian"" means a ""follower of Christ"". The word ""Manalista"" truly applies to them.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,Eduardo needs gas money for his fleet of vehicles and airplane,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"I can't imagine what it's like for someone legit poor.
No money? No food? Fuck you, give us whatever you have.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"EVM loves exaggerating bad events and downplaying the good ones.
He's trying to take advantage of our negativity bias to scare us into staying in this cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"CWS lesson tells the story of Giezi, the helper of Eliseus. A kind of lesson meant to scare children into submisson. For some reason, Giezi's decendents gets punished with leprosy too for lying to Naaman (the Syrian General who had his leprosy cured just by river dipping 7 times).
So anyway, the moral lesson of the story was: If you sin, you'll burn in the lake of fire (which wasn't even part of the story of Giezi, it's totally unrelated)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"I wonder why you are still active in the church if you knew already that it is not a true worship service? why are you still attending by the way? For me, I volunteered my self of walked out in this cult religion since the controversy started. When they wailed on their prayer and ask God to kill those supposedly questioning and attacking the administration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,Fr. We need optimism. We don't need lessons that came out of Eddie's royal depressed ass,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"241's updated melody is better than their usual new compositions.
These processionals were originally for the 50th in the West, probably why they sound cooler than usual.
496 has a rather awful sounding descant in my opinion, it's just there for style points but doesn't realize it makes it uglier.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,Least most kittens are cute. Can't say that about the INC. Pretty sure I'd lose all my rings if I walked onto those spikes.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,WebEx does not archive streams and there is no way you can join in the middle of one since they have naming convention and you also need a camera of the church.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"Hi John,
The Bible says **there is only one way to God Almighty and that is through Christ.** If the INC says it is through this church or Manalo, that is purely Not the way!
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"Im actually a mr ! (...mx?, i dont know) but yeah, totally agree.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"Hi John,
The Bible **warns the members of false preachers and Eduardo is one of them** for he does not preach about the ""good news"" of Jesus coming in the latter days. Eduardo has his own agenda /Bible and does not know how to preach what people need to hear!
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"Manalos will happily take their last 5 pesos. It all adds up, after all!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"I still have to fake it. I'm still financially dependent and living with my family who still believes in the church and to leave the church now would create stress, arguments and chaos in the family not to mention the church shunning process, telling their members not to talk to anyone or let them inside their homes when they decide to leave INC. This is what it's like being born into the church.
Edit: If I was financially independent and living alone, I would have left about a year ago (the time I realized that INC is a cult).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,yeah that descant sucks ass.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"I mean, INC is just a RAT, I edited it already hahaha",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"Unless you have special connections with the district TSV, of course.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,You are truly CORRECT with a capital “C”!!! I’m glad your not being brainwashed by the Iglesia Ni Christo Manalo preaching!!! If you want to as a suggestion from me please check out 995theword.com to hear the Gospel of Jesus Christ. There’s no harm in listening to the gospel of Jesus Christ. There’s a difference in how the Iglesia Ni Christo interpret’s the Bible’s words and fake prophecies.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"Hi Shemale or other,
sorry I did not mean to hurt your feelings!
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 25 - Mar 28, 2022)",tnmk7g,2022-03-25,"I’m so glad that you can see and hear how the iglesia Ni Christo has manipulated the words of the Bible and brainwashed its members into believing a false prophecy of Felix and the Manalo family tree. The iglesia Ni Christo truly doesn’t preach the unconditional LOVE, and forgiveness that Jesus has for all whoever calls upon him. Truly the iglesia Ni Christo manipulated the Bible and uses a “Membership” to brainwash its members that it’s the only way to heaven. They also preach so much false doctrine’s of money offerings that it’s a commandment of God and a punishing God that makes God love only iglesia Ni Christo members. I’ve found Jesus Christ’s gospel by listening to 995theword.com, if you want to I suggest this website for you to hear. God Bless and take care🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tnmk7g/weekend_worship_service_examination_mar_25_mar_28/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,"Just heard that our chapel got a little amount of invitation for pamamahayag. How about the other chapels?
I feel like the INC is truly dying now.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,I already did my 🍒 picking this morning! ☺️,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,"I feel like they attempted to ""God is love"" this lesson, but with the INC staple teachings hamfisted into it, the homily just comes off as arrogant and exclusivist.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,"In the lesson they told us our prayers won’t get answered unless we bear fruit, but the administration has the insane delusional goal for every household to convert 6 people every month?!?! I don’t even think a single household in my locale has met that goal and I know for sure majority of households don’t even have a single convert for the year.
They tell us just being a member isn’t enough, God won’t answer our prayers until we bear fruit then what’s the point of being a member if we’re never going to have our prayers answered simply because we can’t reach or even come close to the administrations delusional goal.
I hope more people especially the younger members wake up to how obvious of a pyramid scheme this is.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,"Back at it again with this shit, spaced out halfway but baaasically.
- Other religions are wrong
- We are the true church
- Never leave the church.
Rundown is: ""The way other religions pray to god -- but the way they are devoted to god is wrong and god will never listen to their prayers, only to ours because were the true church. (Mentioned the lamsa translation verse ♡♡ hayy its been a while) But we must be totally and unwaveringly obedient to God and the church administration at all times, if not, we will not get his holy blessing. One of the inobedience to the church administratiin is not regularly attending to church, going against its rules, etc.""
How gross of them to devaluate other's beliefs and relationship with god just because it doesn't fit with their backwards ideals ... ugdjrgfnddghsh",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,"Our lord God's conditional love knows no bounds. He totally hates seeing people suffer while letting and even making them suffer even more.
He totally wants people to change while killing those who disobeyed him during the biblical times (like Moses, Ananias and Sapphira, Aaron's two oldest sons Nadab and Abihu and millions of others), taking that chance to change away from them. Sorry but based on what I read from the bible, he doesn't seem to be as all loving and compassionate as I initially thought.
And now, there's INC's ""prayers won't be answered unless you're part if the this church"". How the minister said that the 1/3 of the Earth's population being referred to by the bible is INC. Really? INC only has like less than 0.04% of the entire population (based on the INC members total back in 2015 which was said to be the [all time high](https://www.ceicdata.com/en/philippines/population-religious-affiliation/population-ra-iglesia-ni-cristo)). That's way far below 33.33% which should be about 1/3 of earth's population.
Edit: Fixed some grammar.
Sorry it's actually less than 0.04% not 0.03%.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,You are never enough inside the INCult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,"Lesson was basically scaring everyone into staying in INC.
If God loves us so much why make us endure a pandemic? Why allow good men to die? The INC will tell you that it's because you've done something wrong. What is that? I don't know, go figure it out.
The world makes more sense if you believe God doesn't exist or is dead, to be honest.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,"* Deadly Themes: Other Religions Are Wrong & Don’t Leave the INC (🥱😴)
* Isa 59:2
* Prov 1:27-28
* Lamen 3:23, 32-33
* 1 John 4:9-10
* Heb 9:22
* Acts 20:28 (🙄)
* 1 Peter 2:10
* John 15:16
* Zech 13:8-9
* Ps 61:1-5",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,"Admittedly one of the more boring lessons I’ve gone through so far.. was pretty much a lecture and they were doing more advertising of the 6 fruits campaign again as usual, about 30 minutes in. It’s almost like it’s mandatory to include it in every worship service, like how some youtubers say like, comment or subscribe all the time.
People were pretty bored too as I can see, lots of readjusting, slumped postures, bored body language almost everywhere and unfortunately plentiful amounts of coughing. I look forward to the holy supper if this is just the preparatory worship service.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,"as usual, there are days that they do not have visitors here. last night they only have 1 visitor. officers are required to attend missionary gatherings every night and bring visitors, take pictures and send them to their resident minister as proof of attendance.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,Whats pamamahayag?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,Never seen EVM attending the bible studies and inviting people to join the church LOL,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,Then why are you still attending? Why don't you ask them first all your thoughts? Did u ask or all your complains are just here for us to read to encourage us to leave and yet you are still a member,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,An invitation to listen at the doctrines of the INC.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,"Are you serious? There are many of us active on here that can’t leave due to certain circumstances. Why are YOU on here, if reading comments like mines bothers you",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,"Their username literally says they're trapped in the INC, likely by their family. It's not easy to leave with the visitation, threats of being disowned, and worse.
We're here to spread awareness about what the INC really teaches and help anyone that may need it. This thread has been helpful for when lessons have harmful messages, such as the second lesson in February. If it helps anyone see the INC for what it is, even better. We've found some patterns as well over the years like the seven deadly themes and certain verses they never read fully. If you'd like to stay a while and learn about that, you're welcome to!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Mar 29 - Mar 31, 2022)",tr0eif,2022-03-29,"That's just a waste of time and energy. I say good luck with that because no one is going to show up unless those would be visitors have the hots over a particular member(s). Even then, those visitor(s) won't likely remain for the long haul.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/tr0eif/midweek_worship_service_examination_mar_29_mar_31/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 01 - Apr 04, 2022)",ttrdmo,2022-04-01,"So they brought up Adam and eve story in the worship service. And I know some people are still religious so I wanna say this is probably offensive to religious people but I don't care. Adam and eve makes no sense. Eve was born into the world knowing nothing other than she just can't eat from the sacred tree thing. And then a random snake told her ""Hey it's ok to eat from the tree"" so being naive and knowing nothing she didn't understand lies and deception. So she trusted it and god punished them for taking an apple.
What?
""I'm sorry sky daddy I didn't know people can lie I thought...""
'SILENCE! how dare you my own creation that I gave free will not listen to me!""
""but sky daddy I didn't""
""IT IS YOUR FAULT YOU DID NOT GRASP THE CONCEPT OF LYING THAT I NEVER INFORMED YOU ABOUT, DONT EVEN TALK ABOUT THE FACT I GAVE YOU FREE WILL AND IM NOW ANGRY THAT YOU DIDNT LISTEN TO ME.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ttrdmo/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_01_apr_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 01 - Apr 04, 2022)",ttrdmo,2022-04-01,"**Sermon**
* Topic: Fighting for One’s Faith
* Deadly Theme: Don’t Leave the INC
* 2 Cor 11:3
* Gen 3:1-6
* Eph 5:15-16
* Prov 8:33
* Isa 2:3
* Prov 2:12-13 (read twice, no translation named)
* Eph 4:18
* Mark 14:55-56
* Dan 6:2-5
* Ps 27:1, 3
* 2 Sam 10:12
* Heb 12:12-13
**Personal Comments & Observations**
* INC will never stop claiming its doctrine never changed. Then why is the idolatry 10,000x (approx.) worse now than in times previous? Why were so many current practices not previously practiced (or at least not as much then)?
* In a way, INC is right about wisdom protecting one from wickedness—as in having even a shred of wisdom will protect one from INC’s wickedness.
* Not sure if it’s just my region, but the preacher mentioned detractors and the administration as well.
* INC will insist that the DeTrAcToRs never found any evidence against the admin, and that no one can ever ruin INC’s integrity. Are they THAT afraid/arrogant to wave the white flag? Also, how do you ruin something that doesn’t exist?
* INC will repeat ad nauseam: “Don’t miss worship services!” and “Don’t step down from your duty/ies!” Don’t they realize that only makes the brethren want to DiSoBeY even more?
**Stray Thoughts**
* I wonder how much paper, ink, and electricity INC uses to prepare and distribute these horrid homilies.
* I…will never understand…why many ministers…talk like this…or SCREAM…every FEW sylLAbles…
* Almost makes me want to pour some sugar, Red Bull, and/or 5 Hour Energy into their drinks.
* Do some ministers genuinely like talking to grown adults as if the latter were preschoolers or kindergarteners? If that’s true, then I don’t want to know how these ministers/workers officiate CWSes!
* Is it too much to ask for a minister/worker with a deep voice? Or am I just stranded in a region of high-pitched preachers?
**Hymns**
* 14: “Lord God, We Thank You”
* rather nondescript officers’ prayer
* [428: “I’m Proud to Be a Member of the CHURCH OF CHRIST”](https://youtu.be/Dc9Zrv25mOc)
* Did EVM write this hymn? 🤮
* 82: “Let Us Never Stray, Dear Brethren”
* lecture hymn 🙄
* mentions not abandoning the INC calling
* 248: “I Will Never Draw Back”
* obedience/duty hymn
* 69: “May I Not Be Lost nor Left Behind”
* 4: “Let’s Accept ~~EVM’s~~ God’s Teachings”
* lecture hymn
* mentions not doubting
* 292: “Our Lord Jesus Will Soon Return”
* glorified lecture hymn",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ttrdmo/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_01_apr_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 01 - Apr 04, 2022)",ttrdmo,2022-04-01,"When the lesson is about wisdom, you know it's going to be laden with stupidity.
1. So the serpent (Satan?) lied by saying Eve will not die, contrary to what God said. Eve did, in fact, not die. So who is lying again?
2. Why is it bad to know good and evil? Ignorance is bliss but shouldn't one know it's bad to kill, or steal, or claim that one is a messenger of God while sexually assaulting women?
3. Wasn't God's plan to have Jesus killed all along? Why are the ones responsible for his death always considered the bad guys? Aren't they just enacting God's plan? God is the mastermind of all of that.
4. So, they go back to the claim that there is no corruption and misappropriation because the church is able to continue building houses of worship and conducting outreach programs. How is this even still in the talking points? We already know that the first family has been building and acquiring luxurious properties and has offshore accounts in places where people put their money to keep it away from prying eyes (legal or otherwise). Now if you have $10 in offering and you use $1 of that to build some chapel, the other $9 for some non-church related thing, like, I don't know, maybe a new $9 toupee, who can tell you that you've misused the money if no one knows how much you had to begin with?
5. I'll take ""woke"" over stupid and ignorant any day, thank you.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ttrdmo/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_01_apr_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 01 - Apr 04, 2022)",ttrdmo,2022-04-01,"So INC's preaching fight for your faith again. It totally gave me the 2015 vibes there. Apparently, we're at war, this is INC promoting ""us vs them"" mentality again, like the cult they are.
Lesson started with the story of Adam and Eve and how the ""talking snake devil"" is still decieving us to this day.
Minister mentioned ""unity voting"" and he basically said that whoever did not vote for whoever candidate the Executive Minister chooses is a fool. So to him, blind obedience equals wisdom. What a wise guy he is. /s
Minister also claims that we have no proof of EVM's corruption...yeah, he's definitely the type who'll ignores evidences presented to his face.
This is the most irritating lesson (no, it's actually propaganda) that I had to endure. The minister himself is also irritating to listen to especially with his condascending tone. He beats around the bush and then goes off topic here and there making the lesson longer than usual.
He told us that we must be kept busy with church activites (like intensive propagation of course) and offices at all times so that we won't have the time to ""get decieved"".
Social media against the church was mentioned too. Minister encouraged the parents to monitor their kids again because the youth are ones being dragged away (rescued) from the church (cult) by the ""devils"" in social media.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ttrdmo/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_01_apr_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 01 - Apr 04, 2022)",ttrdmo,2022-04-01,"My only war is trying to stay awake during the mind numbingly boring sermons. They actually make me miss the old Shouting hallelujah sermons of my youth, when the pastor would get excited, shout, and walk up and down the aisle of the little church we attended.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ttrdmo/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_01_apr_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 01 - Apr 04, 2022)",ttrdmo,2022-04-01,"This WS gives me a theory as to why the Philippines are getting different lineups than the other countries. I think it's because it will Presidential Election Day in like a month here. The middle of the lecture has so much emphasis on our vote. I think it makes sense considering if there's one thing cults hate, it's their members getting control over anything. They legit said ""if your vote is different from what the Administration wants, you're against what the Lord wants"" or something like that. Talk about garbage. For the hymns, 428 is cool, 82 is pretty good but I mostly remember it from my first ever WS, I still don't like 248, and 69 is great and funny. Let's see if they continue with this Presidential Election crap for the rest of the month in the Philippines and my theory ends up being true. 4/10.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ttrdmo/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_01_apr_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 01 - Apr 04, 2022)",ttrdmo,2022-04-01,"This cult has hit a new low with this garbage.
Congratulations Iglesia Ni Cristo, you never cease to amaze.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ttrdmo/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_01_apr_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 01 - Apr 04, 2022)",ttrdmo,2022-04-01,"so it was intelligent shaming after all.
If we follow the Bible's narrative of the original sin, we Humans were already blessed and cursed of knowing what's right and wrong. Even the snake didn't lie about that and God so furious knowing that human can have a similar thought process as Him, made life a bit challenging for us all. And now them leader being the same Human as us want people to follow them blindly as if they are also GOD and infallible.
Why didn't I think about this when I was younger..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ttrdmo/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_01_apr_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 01 - Apr 04, 2022)",ttrdmo,2022-04-01,"Were the lessons different depending on the location? I caught Acts 20:28 again but I may have missed out on other details, not too boring but I was fighting to stay awake a bit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ttrdmo/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_01_apr_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 01 - Apr 04, 2022)",ttrdmo,2022-04-01,"If one were so inclined to say, GOD was in fact the liar here. While there is speculation that ""death"" referred to is that they would have been immortal and there are some who say ""death"" is being the Lake of Fire on judgement day... They in fact did not die when they ate of it. Everything the serpent said was true. God's fear was that if they ate it, they would no longer be ""blind sheep"" OWE-type followers.
In Genesis 3:22-23 God says so himself:
Then the Lord God said, “**Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil.** And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”—therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken.
But if God knew all this was going to go down anyway---which is why he ""planned"" for Jesus Christ---why do it? It makes absolutely no sense. Or why did God allow the serpent to tempt them? Why did God put the tree of Knowledge in the middle of the garden? Why did God not just say, ""you know what, go sacrifice 10 goats, 3 monkeys and a llama and you'll be okay."" because AFTER their sin, this was what he wanted people to do to be redeemed from sin.
It all depends on how much of the bible one believes... or in INC's case, how much of it you skew to your own doctrines.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ttrdmo/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_01_apr_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 01 - Apr 04, 2022)",ttrdmo,2022-04-01,The InC ministry should look in the mirror before they speak of the Devil.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ttrdmo/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_01_apr_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 01 - Apr 04, 2022)",ttrdmo,2022-04-01,"It’s because you’ve been brainwashed and conditioned at a young age of the manipulation tactics that the Iglesia Ni Christo uses. With this Subreddit forum that threatens the Manalo Administration movement for the youth, more and more young members can see and hear the Lie’s that the Iglesia Ni Christo preaches. The youth also will see beyond its fake prophecy of Felix Manalo, and the business scheme’s that the iglesia Ni Christo conducts for the gain of money. A true testament of how the youth has discovered the truth is by watching LJ Caraangs YouTube videos. This young man has truly exposed the Toxic, brainwashing, and manipulation tactics that the Iglesia Ni Christo has been conducting. I personally listen to 995theword.com to listen to the gospel of Christ Jesus that the iglesia Ni Christo truly doesn’t preach. Hopefully you can find your way to listening to the Gospel of Jesus Christ 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ttrdmo/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_01_apr_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 01 - Apr 04, 2022)",ttrdmo,2022-04-01,"For the month of April, PH and abroad have different lineups and different lessons. Along with holy supper schedules.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ttrdmo/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_01_apr_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Apr 01 - Apr 04, 2022)",ttrdmo,2022-04-01,"He (they?) simply might have been testing His creation, man (and woman). Indeed, the plan was to make man fail here, make a sorry ass excuse for punishing him to work for everything and condemning him to die. But who's to say that eating from the tree of life does grant eternal life? Didn't husband and wife both eat of the fruit? Are they still with us now? They are humans, and therefore should die. Doesn't this mean that the fruit was merely adding to one's life? So in effect, there was no eternal life for man. But one can assume the tree itself was eternal (unless cut down, if even possible?)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ttrdmo/weekend_worship_service_examination_apr_01_apr_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 05 - Apr 07, 2022)",twvm54,2022-04-05,Abraham did set the bar too high. 😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/twvm54/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_05_apr_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 05 - Apr 07, 2022)",twvm54,2022-04-05,"these people will take things literally, offer all their sons and daughters into the abyss; waiting on a gad that will stop them, when all along, everywhere they go their gads follow. I know that the bible is fiction, more like a psychological story book. Rehashed, re-editioned and full of unavoidable contradictions. read the epic of gilgamesh, see the similarity? its more like a fanfiction of ancient stories.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/twvm54/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_05_apr_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 05 - Apr 07, 2022)",twvm54,2022-04-05,"**Sermon**
* Topic: The stories of Abraham & Hezekiah
* No noticeable Deadly Theme
* Genesis 12:1-2, 4-5
* Genesis 17: 1-2, 7
* Genesis 21: 1-3, 5
* Hebrews 11:8
* 2 Kings 20:1-6
* 2 Kings 18:5-7
* 1 John 3:22
* Psalm 37:7, 28
**Hymns**
* 103: “Have Mercy, LORD, on Me”
* 317: “Remember All the LORD Has Done”
* verses are about the INC prophecy
* 24: “A Prayer Most Fervent”
* lecture hymn
* 226: “I Am Prepared”
* obedience/submission hymn
* refrain is about not leaving the church, but being ready to give one’s life for it
* 255: “Father, May You Hear Me”
* refrain is about duty/calling
* 272: “Reveal Your Teachings”
* obedience hymn
* ends with a vow to remain in the church
* 292: “Our Lord Jesus Will Soon Return”
* lecture showtune
**Stray Observations**
* Supposedly King Hezekiah’s prayer was of very few words. Why can’t prayers nowadays be?
* 317 = “Remember All the LORD Has Done, Except the Bad Stuff”",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/twvm54/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_05_apr_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 05 - Apr 07, 2022)",twvm54,2022-04-05,"Uuuuuggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh
Genuinely insufferable. Aside from **that** WS from February, I genuinely don't know the last time I wanted this shit to end. My ears are in pain, my body is in pain, my soul is in pain. That is mainly due to the minister being **that** kind that screams at the microphone at 40,000 decibels. Not to mention how this is the first time I was genuinely disturbed with the prayer section (which is surprising considering how desensitized I've become with this shit). My god did the guy play with everyone's emotions.
The lineup is lame too. 24 and 226 are boring. I liked 317 and 255 though. 317 is a perfect opening hymn and 255 was really quiet and peaceful. Should've appreciated that because of the eventual earrape.
Rating: Fuck you INC 1/10.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/twvm54/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_05_apr_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 05 - Apr 07, 2022)",twvm54,2022-04-05,"Feels like they’re trying to justify Abraham’s actions for us putting up with absurd goals and orders, saying how Abraham obeyed and implying we should be like that, which ties into the culty quote, “Obey and never complain”.
Like u/Somethingjustcracked said, Abraham set the bar too high and now we have to put up with unrealistic and repetitive goals and tasks.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/twvm54/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_05_apr_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 05 - Apr 07, 2022)",twvm54,2022-04-05,"Why do they want us to imitate Abraham and Ezekiel when God talked to them personally?! Does it imply that since God talks to us THRU EVM, we should follow EVM like Abraham and Ezekiel?
Also, 226: “I Am Prepared” really has creepy and disgusting lyrics. Giving our lives to INC if necessary.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/twvm54/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_05_apr_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 05 - Apr 07, 2022)",twvm54,2022-04-05,"Thankfully no screaming in the prayers although it felt like a lecture, telling us not to complain and to obey/do what is told, bearing fruit, and saying we should or need to do x, y, z for EVM presumably and not complain.
With the filmed preaching worship services being like a 2/10 or 1/10 being the worst ones I’ve seen so far, I would say this is between a 3-4/10, 5/10 being an average decent but a little boring worship service, so I think 3.5/10 for my experience for this midweek lesson.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/twvm54/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_05_apr_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 05 - Apr 07, 2022)",twvm54,2022-04-05,"I am of the opinion that ""PARENTS GUIDE YOUR CHILDREN"" has tinges of *Don't Leave the INC, Social Media,* and *the Administration.*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/twvm54/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_05_apr_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 05 - Apr 07, 2022)",twvm54,2022-04-05,">226: “I Am Prepared”
It's a very big red flag. Reading its lyrics on screen gives me chills and disgust.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/twvm54/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_05_apr_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 05 - Apr 07, 2022)",twvm54,2022-04-05,"I’m so glad that my family and I left because I don’t know how anyone can withstand these mind numbingly boring screaming fits coupled with cry praying from these ministers and deacons.
I could never understand why these clowns have to scream. Seriously, is God so deaf that He can’t hear? Why the screaming, howling, and don’t even get me started with cry praying?
I hated listening to these BS when I was still a member and I feel to those who are awake and have to endure with INCULT’s tirade.
My guess is that they don’t have anything to say that are relevant and so they must resort to some crappy cringey shenanigans, thinking that people are buying this crap! Perhaps if you are Filipinos with a long line of INC ancestry but let me tell you something, outside of that gene pool, people are laughing at you INCULT.
Next time you guys (ministers and officers) cry your heart out as if you guys are getting adult circumcision, that non members who are listening are laughing at you all and no way in hell they will join.
To add, even without the screaming fits, outsiders will not join. They’re not as stupid as they look, though perhaps some lonely old men who are desperate for wives.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/twvm54/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_05_apr_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 05 - Apr 07, 2022)",twvm54,2022-04-05,"I did like 226 without thinking too much on the lyrics, although if they changed the lyrics recently then I prefer whatever was before. I miss the older hymns that were more of praising God and were not depressing or creepy lyrics. Now it’s more about obedience, staying in the church, EVM, etc. and I feel bad for choir members who do not enjoy singing these lyrics or do not feel happy to sing them. Even I was happy to sing the older hymns, but no longer the majority of the new ones.
The creepiness and cult-like lyrics stand out more to me now, and I can imagine some choir members may question a little after practicing and singing them so many times.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/twvm54/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_05_apr_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Apr 05 - Apr 07, 2022)",twvm54,2022-04-05,Indeed! I thought I am the only one who noticed it. I realized last WS that all hymns are new. Then it occurred to me that perhaps EVM is changing INC slowly. It's more a INC-EVM-centered church now.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/twvm54/midweek_worship_service_examination_apr_05_apr_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 17 - May 19, 2022)",urn3xx,2022-05-17,"Honestly getting tired of this shit, same thing week in week out.."".INC are getting stronger and other religions are getting weak and fragile"" - 95% of the INC are FILIPINOS. The toxic Filipino culture is deep in the roots of this religion. Can this religion just stop comparing itself with others and stop shitting on other religions; it's not even uplifting hearing them talk about this it's just plain embarrassing.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/urn3xx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_17_may_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 17 - May 19, 2022)",urn3xx,2022-05-17,"Lesson covered the following: (will post the tally after next WS)
- Felix Manalo
- July 27 is WW1,
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time,
- Propagation - DT
- Don't leave the INC -DT
- Other religions are wrong - DT
- Detractors - DT
- Being persecuted
- INC's ""victories""
- World is terrible
- Doomsday
- Salvation
So now their definition of ""ends of the earth"" means a time before the ""end of the earth"". Really INC?
2nd Minionster was a total Manalo Fanboy. Keeps deviating from the lesson to talk more about FYM.
He said that ""no one is being forced to stay"", yeah tell that to the trapped members here still relying on their parents.
He even told us that we should remember his birthday becauses ""bible"". Oh yeah, What about Jesus?
Lesson is cringey as always.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/urn3xx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_17_may_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 17 - May 19, 2022)",urn3xx,2022-05-17,"It would help if there's like a tally sheet for this, so we can easily see how many times the topic came up.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/urn3xx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_17_may_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 17 - May 19, 2022)",urn3xx,2022-05-17,"Another lesson about the sugo, Is.41:9-10, the chosen servant of God, coming from the ""time"" ends of the earth, concurring with ww1( Mat,24:33). Also mentioned those who would go against him would be ashamed ,perish and be as nothing ( Is.41:11) Felix would also beat the mountains small and have sharp threshing teeth ( Is,41:15) or in other words destroy the big religions with the Bible ( a double edged sword, Heb.4:12). Another typical lesson for the month of May ,not inspiring or uplifting just boring .",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/urn3xx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_17_may_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 17 - May 19, 2022)",urn3xx,2022-05-17,[Tagalog Lesson](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/us4h2m/midweek_worship_service_lesson_may1819_tagalog/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/urn3xx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_17_may_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 17 - May 19, 2022)",urn3xx,2022-05-17,"Another yearly repetitive brainwashing conditioning prophecy of Felix Manalo. Its so heart breaking that the Iglesia Ni Cristo uses cherry picked verses of the Bible to suite their own interpretation of the last messenger. It’s truly a Cult that works to gain a lot of money from its brainwashed members. The true Gospel of Jesus Christ in the New Testament from the Apostle’s Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John that witnessed Jesus Christ’s Gospel will never be preached in the Iglesia Ni Cristo. The twisted, misinterpreted prophecy of Felix Manalo has truly mislead the members of the INC to believe he is the last messenger. Felix’s labor that the INC ministry preaches surprisingly surpasses the Gospel of Jesus Christ’s sacrifice. Sadly to say these members of the Iglesia Ni Cristo are truly brainwashed in believing of a false prophecy that the Iglesia Ni Cristo has fabricated",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/urn3xx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_17_may_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 17 - May 19, 2022)",urn3xx,2022-05-17,"Okay, so last week they were talking about how felix is an angel. They read a verse about the angel Gabriel being sent to earth or something to bring tidings. Somehow, they managed to cough that: angel = sent to earth = sent to preach (tidings) = messenger = felix manalo. Literally, the verse does not prove their point, I was so dumbfounded when the minister said this. Now, to the mid-week. Again they mentioned *ends of the earth* and how it refers to time. If you read that chapter of Isaiah, it mentions *Egypt, Cush, and Seba*, which means the term refers to a place. Basic grammar again, you don’t say “ends” to mean the end of the world. You can’t end the world multiple times. Anyways, they mentioned world war I and read a book describing the events. The minister didn’t read the date stated on the book, but at the end he said the book states the war started on July 27, 1914? Does he think people are stupid? Then he asked the congregation to say when the war started, everyone chanted July 27 but I muttered July 28 lol, yeah the person sitting beside me heard it but Idc.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/urn3xx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_17_may_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 17 - May 19, 2022)",urn3xx,2022-05-17,"Hmm, it started about FYM of course.. justifying ends of the earth from some time ago. Why do they have to so desperately defend their cherry picked teachings that lack context? A worship service is for worshipping, not defending the reputation of a cult.
They care about their reputation so much and that will lead to their downfall. They can’t not care about it either, because they take pride in that. So either way they’ll continue to sink themselves, at the least their reputation as the “one true “church””.
I’m not listening that well because before my body naturally rejected the bullshit they preach and now my ears and mind naturally reject it too, but right now it seems like they’re teaching about the end signs, which I find kind of interesting. However, I have never researched these end signs. They could be written and revised to fit history as time goes on.
Ah, they’re doing the ends of the earth thing again. It’s been 20 minutes and they’re still rambling on about it. I expect a shoutout for propagation or sharing faith soon. Hello there, July 27 1914, the supposed start date of WW1. Yep, they proudly claim it and proudly say it’s the same day of the start of the INCult. They say it so dramatically. Actually, the eyes of the minister are different from how they speak, confident and dramatic about the false date.
Oh hey, they said the verse in that cringy minister cult video, something about “they shall be as nothing” or something. Probably meant for the “detractors”. It’s like they hate people for being smarter or thinking for themselves.
I thought a bit and realized this is just another defensive lecture. Seems like it’s just doom and gloom to look forward to. If people could literally stop going without being questioned or consequences, I wonder how many would remain. I can imagine seeing the numbers decrease over time. I wonder if they would still claim the INC is still strong.
“We are very blessed, we were called into the church of christ by god”
Extortion by EVM. I don’t know if being subtly forced in without choice as a kid is exactly a blessing. Same with people feeling stressed and bored. The blessing here is getting to go home.
Hmm, no propagation shoutout this time, or maybe there was but I didn’t bother hearing it.
Overall okay, basically just a boring defense lesson of reputation. I saw some guests from the youth summit earlier. If I were them, this would be the last time I would be attending.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/urn3xx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_17_may_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 17 - May 19, 2022)",urn3xx,2022-05-17,"This lesson was both boring and infuriating
Boring because it was just the same shit again
Infuriating because the damn minister just won't. stop. screaming. You do realize that being loud doesn't make you right? And I'm sure that if I were God, I wouldn't appreciate being screamed at after preaching drivel.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/urn3xx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_17_may_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 17 - May 19, 2022)",urn3xx,2022-05-17,One thing was clear. The service this week was clearly responding to things said on this board. Wednesday night's service responded specifically to some comments made here by Rauffenberg and others. The board definitely has their attention.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/urn3xx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_17_may_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 17 - May 19, 2022)",urn3xx,2022-05-17,"Your so True!!!! This is the real reason the Iglesia Ni Cristo doesn’t preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ that preaches unconditional Love for everyone that calls his name. The Eduardo Manalo Cult preaching is about “Membership”, False Felix Prophecy, and money Business scheme’s.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/urn3xx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_17_may_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 17 - May 19, 2022)",urn3xx,2022-05-17,The thing is even th english speaking mbers still believes in their foolishness. Sounds illiterate,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/urn3xx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_17_may_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 17 - May 19, 2022)",urn3xx,2022-05-17,I think the [Seven Deadly Themes](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/index/seven-deadly-themes) page has shown us that there is a whole lot of repetition. There was also [a user with a checklist](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/ql6400/comment/hjb0dkp/).,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/urn3xx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_17_may_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 17 - May 19, 2022)",urn3xx,2022-05-17,another stupid lesson from the stupid eduardo manalo cult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/urn3xx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_17_may_19/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 17 - May 19, 2022)",urn3xx,2022-05-17,Haven't done it in a while but it kind of makes me want to do it again. I'll try to tally it this time.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/urn3xx/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_17_may_19/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"“You must not hate your brother, sister, mother or father in the faith otherwise you’re the child of the devil”
“You should reconcile quickly with anyone you have disputes with” - minister preaching this weekend.
Clearly EVM is leading by example….",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"Main INCult defensive move:
Those expelled are now children of the Devil, and having no fellowship of the Holy Spirit, they cannot understand the 'truth' anymore. They can't interpret the Bible 'correctly' because it is a 'mystery'. So whatever they say is NOT TRUE. DO NOT BELIEVE THOSE WHO CAUSE DIVISIONS.
Brainwashing💯",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"Lesson started about the brotherhood and how we should treat each other.. I sure hope they say not to be manipulating, backstabbing guilt tripping mfs
Then they say that it’s not enough to be just a member of course..
They say we should love one another like brothers/sisters.. seems like the way it’s done here is like a bunch of childish boastful children trying to one up each other and pushing others down to get ahead by any means
Mention of sharing faith and offerings immediately after, seems to be a package deal shoutout. I wonder why they push so much for participation in “voluntary” offerings.
Yuck, then they said, “let us submit to the church administration”
All this to prove we are “true disciples of Jesus Christ”… right.. show me where it said to obey and submit to a cult that permits assassination, harassment/doxxing, and extortion.
Then they teach about people outside the church are “of the world”, implying a us versus them thing again. So much confidence coming from a cult actively using shady and despicable tactics. Double standards and arrogant confidence..
There’s a verse I remember. “They are bragging that they are the only ones who will be saved, not knowing that they are from the bad tree.”
If I were a new guest and I heard them talking this way about outsiders, I would be turned off. They paint them as terrible people, but even strangers I’ve briefly interacted with, they all have treated me better than anyone in church. They acknowledge me, and they act genuinely. That says something.
Years in this cult and almost all the strangers I never met before treat me better than they ever could, because most people in the cult are fake, I’ve unfortunately found from experience. Never again am I lending my loyalty and letting my guard down for these people.
They’re showing the bible like an ad and saying how good it is, like they made it. Then I look at the other people in the webex meeting and they’re bored or sleeping.
“Never allow those people to deceive us and separate us from the church of christ”
They discourage research and interpretations of the bible though, don’t they?
They call people not in the church anymore “of the devil”.
Oh man, people in the meeting look kinda agitated. Aggressively scratching heads, so much yawning, sloped over posture; these people are just about done with EVM and the cherry picked teachings.
“They are living in wicked ways”
At least I’m not manipulating, guilt tripping or backstabbing other people after welcoming them with false love and hope.
So basically, once again another hypocritical boring lesson. Mainly about the brotherhood and those outside, viewing them as terrible people. In my experience, complete opposite. And in my future of living the life I was robbed of, I am excited to experience the good side of people that I was taught were evil from this church.
They paint themselves holier than thou, “better” than the people outside saying they are “of the world” like some sort of bad thing. I can tell they are the butthurt type indeed, claiming everyone else as wrong and only them right. I know this because I did this before. They don’t know that it’s the other way around.
They ought to look in a mirror sometime.
Check yourself before you wreck yourself
4/10 for me.
while it was hypocritical and sort of amusing seeing the confident claims and people starting to be fed up and done with the BS, it was kind of boring for me.
I yawned multiple times on camera, sipped water and was thinking of how I could get a snack without getting kicked out of the meeting. Even just thinking about that was more exciting than the WS overall today.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"Always been the teching style of INC thay say some positive things but then switch abruptly to negative in order to scare you into submission. Loving the brotherhood is all good, no problem with that but then switching to those who cause divisions dont have the spirit and are children of the Devil who is the father of lies, and wont be saved, not a uplifting message.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"Main takeaway tonight:
INC members: children of God
Everyone else: children of the Devil
This cult so hateful 🤮",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"Booorrrriiiiinnnnnnggggggggg
Typical egotistical lesson with a rather lame lineup.
It’s a perfect 5/10 “I don’t give a shit”
Also if you’re wondering how I rate these, the score starts at a 5/10 or “I don’t fucking care”. I add or subtract points depending on how good the hymn lineup is, the length of the lesson, how tolerable the prayers are, how loud the ministers are, or how stand-out the lesson is (whether that “stand-out” is a good or bad thing).
Also, LET’S GOOOOO 462 AND 516 NEXT WEEK PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON’T MAKE NEXT WEEK A PPV OR I WILL FUCKING SCREAM.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"""Those who are excommunicated are forbidden to engage in the church.""
One of the reasons maybe is that they're afraid that they'll be exposed more.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"Lesson covered the following:
- Propagation -DT
- Detractors - DT
- The Administration - DT
- Other religions are wrong - DT
- Don't hate your fellow INC
- Good values (Love and forgiveness)
- Felix Y. Manalo
While the first and last part of the lesson (love and forgiveness) was acceptable and tolerable to listen to, why not towards everyone and not just to fellow INC members? The cynical part of me tells me that this is just to keep the cult members together and keep that peer pressure going.
I really hated the mid part of the lesson. How they tell us to antagonize those who got expelled. Telling us they are the spawns of the devil.
They once again tried to defend their reputation by saying those outside INC ""do not understand the bible"".
They only said that we should not listen to those who got expelled because they no longer have the ""holy spirit"" in them. But I'm still not expelled so that means the ""holy spirit"" is still guiding me as I'm writing this.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"This lesson is just merely a response to election backlash. Nothing to see here
Unite in the brotherhood! Don't hate each other! Unless you disobey the administration. Then it's totally fine! Those who disobey are not your faith sibling.
What a load of bullshit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"This man claiming that many from dis associating themselves from the church due to scandals in 2015 are going back in the church. But the comments tells another story
https://youtube.com/shorts/NCLc7Kmtc-0?feature=share",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"So hapy I am Excommunicated so I don;t have to sit through this tripe !!!
Also Mrs INC hasn't attended for a couple of months either. No Telegrams messages asking why.
Hooray we have Wednesdays and Saturday free !!!!!!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"I had lunch with one of my INC friends and his ""bible student"" friend and I asked what the service was about. And he told me it was about brotherhood. His guest asked if what the minister said was true when he said, ""We are all brothers and sisters; children of God so we are all equal inside the church."" I laughed and said, ""Uh, NO as a woman you are less than a man inside the church."" My friend tried to defend and say that it is equal and I said, ""Okay, Sister so-and-so, try to become a minister and see what they have to say about that. Or, how about when the two of you get married, you become the breadwinner and head of the household. Oh and if the INC were REALLY following the bible, women should wear a head covering and not speak at church at all--except to her husband who will speak on her behalf."" He then tried to use the lesson against me and say since I am no longer in the church that I am of the devil thus I am not able to understand the words of God because they are hidden in mystery; only members of the church have the ability to understand. LOL
So i asked him, ""Okay bro. tell me I am wrong since you still have the holy spirit. Tell this sister she can become a minister because men and women are equal as brothers and sisters in your church."" He swore something in Tagalog and asked for the check. I'd love to hear how the rest of their conversation went.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"Stop Promoting Hatred. That’s being the children of the Devil. INC ministers, please Read this verse.
Love for Enemies
43""You have heard that it was said.
'Love your neighbor and hate your
enemy.'
44 But I tell you, love your
enemies and pray for those who
persecute you,
45 that you may be children
of your Father in heaven. He causes his
sun to rise on the evil and the good, and
sends rain on the righteous and the
unrighteous.
46 If you love those who love
you, what reward will you get? Are not
even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And
if you greet only your own people, what
are you doing more than others? Do not
even pagans do that? 4&Be perfect,
therefore, as your heavenly Father is
perfect.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,Ask this person what is the definition of the word “WHOEVER”. Then ask this person isn’t it written in the Bible that Jesus Christ said that WHOEVER calls upon his name shall be saved and have eternal life?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"Then why do they hate the 'kakampINCs'?
A lot of brethren even said they are just fake, attention-seeking bunch of people. A minionster even called them out in his preaching. Aren't they still your brethren in the faith?
Loving the brotherhood? 🤮 Makes me sick.
They only love you when you're as brainwashed as them.
How to belong in the INCult? Be a mindless, self-righteous hypocrite. Then you'll be loved.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"""Do not hate your faith sibling"" unless they voted for the wrong person.
""Reconcile quickly"" = Cover it up quickly and hope no one notices.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,How the HELL this Cult ministry talk about “DIVISION” when their own leader Disowned his own Mother and relatives from his Church of Christ!!! What a bunch of Hypocrite’s and brainwashing conditioning the Iglesia Ni Cristo ministry is!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,I mean I don't believe in the administration anymore but I can read the Bible just fine,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,Iglesia Ni Cristo never preaches a uplifting service that would make a person feel any type of God given words of LOVE for all people.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,I legit hate this. It's a sandwich style preaching to trick anyone who bothers listening to this shit. Positive - Negative - Positive,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"What does ""engage in the church mean""?
You mean we can't speak about the voluntary time we spent in a church??
Too late.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,I shall engage *outside* the church then,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"Lesson tally sheet (starting last midweek WS)
WS tallied: 2
- Don't Leave INC - 1
- Propagation - 2
- Detractors - 2
- The Admin - 1
- Others religions are wrong - 2
- God - 1
- Felix Y. Manalo - 2
- Good values - 1
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 1
- Salvation - 1
- World is terrible - 1
- Life is hard - 1
- Doomsday -1
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time- 1
- July 27 is WW1 - 1
- Being Persecuted- 1
- INC's ""victories""- 1",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,Has Eduardo Manalo show any forgiveness to all the expelled members of his Cult Church and to even his own Mother and relatives that he expelled?!?! Such hypocrisy preaching these members of the Iglesia Ni Cristo are brainwashed conditioned in.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,Your comments are so TRUE!!!! I’m glad you can recognize the brainwashing manipulation conditioning they preach. Hopefully you can find the gospel of Jesus Christ that the Iglesia Ni Cristo don’t preach.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,It’s Brainwashing Bullshit my friend. God sent Jesus Christ to unit the unconditional Love that he has for all people that call upon him. The brainwashing the INC Cult preaches is the Felix Manalo False Prophecy BULLSHIT straight from the Karabow!💩,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,">I am not able to understand the words of God because they are hidden in mystery; only members of the church have the ability to understand. LOL
mental gymnastics x 1000 ",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"Hahahaha that was really satisfying, I'd love how to hear their conversation next too and their reaction.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"People are definitely not all equal in the eyes of the INC... ""most especially their most beloved Edwardo V Manalo"". The service is supposed to praise God, but each service gives increasingly more praise to their ""most beloved Edwardo V Manalo"" Eventually It will be Iglesia Ni Manalo.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,">He then tried to use the lesson against me and say since I am no longer in the church that I am of the devil thus I am not able to understand the words of God because they are hidden in mystery
INCults are gonna cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,">**Matthew 22:35-40**
>
>One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. **And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’** **All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.**”
Ummmm this is Jesus. He was pretty explicit. He said Love God and Love your neighbors. Not Love EVM above all things...
It doesn't take a ""sugo"" to interpret this, unless he wants to take away the simplicity that is Jesus Christ. There is no mystery here, keep walking fake-ass ministers.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,INC minionster: You are not a 'Sugo'. Your interpretation of the Bible is wrong! 🤦,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,Reconcile quickly even if the crime is rape. I know many stories 🤮,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"AND!!!! Once again no preaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ that has UNCONDITIONAL Love for everyone who call upon his name. The brainwashing conditioning at it’s FINEST, and the Cult preaching tactics in misinterpreting the words of the Holy Bible.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,Forgiveness = ABSOLUTLEY NO WAY!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,Only when men controlled by Manalo explain the words of God when you are a member and you give money to Manalo can you understand.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 20 - May 23, 2022)",utwtge,2022-05-20,"It wouldn't surprise me if he ended up being the one Manalo who actually pens his own version of the bible and adds himself in there somewhere saying he is the greatest of the Manalos. He might be vain enough to do so... I mean, he did issue those coffee table books of FYM and EGM which was forced upon members to buy lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/utwtge/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_20_may_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"I attempted to join this cult in 2015. I attended lots of worship services and the like. What I can never forget is how they downplay Jesus like he's nothing and the gravity of their devotion to FYM. It's like he's holier and more important than God himself. I also can never forget how hateful their worship services were. They call Catholics ""sanlibutan"" and ""makamundong mga indibidwal"". It's like they're not even people to their preacher's eyes. Lastly, I will never understand why the preacher always forced himself to cry whenever he prayed. It didn't make sense, and it will never make sense. By the looks of it and their recent actions, this is definitely a cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"It's weird that the old members arent seeing it. The patterns, or the way people worship and said flowery words about FYM instead of God's work or Jesus' times here on Earth.
Ever since I joined this cult I never heard them say praises about God, it's always about EVM or FYM. 🤢",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"Oh my god, they quoted Isaiah 42. I remember learning about this in college. The ravenous bird from the east is Cyrus! 'East' was referring to Persia and Susiana.
*It is not uncommon in the Bible to compare a warlike prince to an eagle Jeremiah 49:22; Ezekiel 17:3; and the idea here is, probably, that Cyrus would come with great power and velocity upon nations, like the king of birds, and would pounce suddenly and unexpectedly upon his prey. - Biblehub*
These 'messenger' verses are so manipulative. Brainwashing 101.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"How many times I rolled my eyes during the service. The way the minister kept on mentioning FYM as the prophet or god sent sounds very cult-ish to me. More ww1 references, bible text that is out of context. It is getting tiring.
They seem to worship FYM more than God. And they really downplayed Jesus.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"This was literally the same lesson as last week
Was FYM truly so boring that he outlined the same lesson twice?
Anyway, they attempted to disprove this sub once again, but did not at all address the main points of FYM's prophecy - that being in the original language, ""ends of the earth"" referred to a place. All they did was just spout the same old same old while saying that the ""far east"" was the place and thus ""ends of the earth"" is a time. Which is a fallacy - both are very much places.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"Another WS day of praising Felix Manalo. INC, why can't you talk about Jesus more?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"Recycled lesson recycled lesson recycled lesson 🤮
- Being INC is more important than work and knowledge on this earth.
- FYM is God's messenger.
- Don't leave INC.
- INC will be saved.
- ends of the earth
- July 27, 1914 is the official start date of World War 1",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"More Felix the Angel crap. Isaiah ""prophecy"" was taken out of context to include FYM by force. WW1 is July 27 and ""ends of the earth"" equals time as usual.
Then proceeds to say that bible scholars got it wrong again and only Felix the angel can understand the bible just as Jesus did.
Just another WS, another BS torture moment.
And now they're looking for ""volunteer"" 2d and 3d animators and modellers to work for them for free now, probably to create more brainwashing content for the church (w/ requirements similar to that when you're applying for a job). I mean seriously?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"Once again all the so called messenger verses, Is.46:11,Is.43-5:6 and Rev.7-2:3 were explained in detail coming from the Far East or Philippines ( world history book quoted) and of course WWI or the time of the ends of the earth being sent to preach the gospel. All of these ""prove"" Felix was a ""true ""messenger sent to bring people to salvation.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"The “Holy Supper” of the Iglesia Ni Cristo is another manipulation of the Bible. Jesus Christ’s gospel of the “Last Supper” is what’s it’s truly called and fully about. The question’s the minister preaches are of the forgiveness of sins and the minister goes on in preaching of Sins in other scriptures. He never mentions what Jesus Christ goes through and why Jesus conducts the Last Supper. The preaching of the INC minister goes on in preaching “Holy Supper” and never has he once say or mention the “Last Supper” of Jesus Christ. This is totally a brainwashing conditioning of what the Manalo Administration conducts. Misinterpretation of “Holy Supper” which is the “Last Supper” of Jesus Christ’s Gospel for the forgiveness of sins. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is never preached as they preach attendance, and about the membership. Truly the preaching of attendance and membership has nothing to do with the “Last supper” of Jesus Christ. The minister preaches about what others think, and preaching sins of not going to Worship Service, and giving of money offerings. Once again the INC preaching doesn’t preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ on why Jesus Christ conducted “TheLast Supper” Truly the INC preaching is a brainwashing conditioning at it’s FINEST that has manipulated the scriptures of the Holy Bible to suit their own teachings for the gain of a money Business Church. False preaching at it’s finest of the “Last Supper” that the INC has changed it to a “Holy Supper”. Nothing of Jesus Christ’s gospel, the fact that the minister prays to always bless Eduardo Manalo, and mentioning of another special setting aside of the Cult Offerings.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"More about FYM.. I guess the worship services are about the Manalos now?
I wish they would talk more about Jesus or God, and more about the non fearful-scary side. Something uplifting, original, inspiring, and not recycled.
I get that it’s FYM’s birth month or something, but does *every* worship service have to be about him?
They mentioned again the ends of the earth thing. It would be a christmas miracle if they ever admit that they got the translation/date wrong. Speaking of, they just got the WW1 start date wrong again, preaching it confidently and boldly. Once you learn of the lie, they appear different.. perhaps because you know 100% for sure that they’re bullshitting everyone.
It’s like someone attempting to defend themselves in court without a lawyer and poor material; everyone knows it’s BS, they know it’s BS; it’s just entertaining to see them desperately plead for themselves knowing that they’re done either way.
Still, I wish they would tackle some relevant newer topics that could be useful, rather than old stuff and advertising propaganda and sharing faith every time. At this point I’m gonna create a format with average times. About 20-30 minutes in, there’s a mention of “works of propagation”. There just was, so I can eventually create a checklist/format for what to expect next.
That’s how predictable and old their teaching style is. Fear mongering gets old and doesn’t work with the newer generations. There’s so much change that needs to be done, they need to clean house, and they need to change their styles and approaches. Adapt and get with the times. If they don’t, they’re gonna keep damaging their beloved reputation and status.
My respect for the church has faded to an absolute minimum, and I even refer to it as a cult to people who I talk about it with. They literally said outsiders worship satan/are children of satan. I don’t know what normal person would join a church that insults them and calls them a devil worshipper.
They’re still going on about FYM 30 minutes in. I don’t think I heard any mention of God or Jesus so far. My foot and leg just went numb and that interested me more. It feels like static in those areas and so weird to move it. Not painful though, just weird.
It seems like they’re putting FYM up there with God and Jesus. They can argue that Jesus was a man too, but they’re talking about him more than God and Jesus. This church was named after Jesus. I wonder what he would think of the current state of the church?
Cool, they’re implying that FYM, ministers are the only ones authorized to understand the bible. Apparently they didn’t get the memo that other people are capable of thought and reading. I think they’re going to be in denial when they get that memo.
They’re saying how they “study many years” to ‘understand’ the bible.. seems like they didn’t understand enough to include the context. Google exists now to assist with that.
They really live under a rock don’t they? They want to remain under that rock where all is under their control. All the while, things outside have evolved and progressed. They should just bite the bullet and acknowledge that things have changed, people are smarter now. They should own up to their mistakes.
The world isn’t getting better they say..
That’s *their* own INC world they’re talking about. They should take a look outside, easy to say that when their own whole world is collapsing. Things outside have been somewhat decent, but not as bad as they say.
As the world gets harder so do…
Actually, as the world gets tougher, so do we.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,They like to fake cry to emotionally manipulate the members.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,I have no more hope for old members. My parents are 100% OWE. We must save the young ones though before they become totally brainwashed.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"It's the only thing differentiating the INC from mainstream Christianity, unfortunately, so of course they are going to tout this
Which makes them look more culty",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"Even when I was mentally in, I kind of eventually zoned out and stopped because of how boring it was and I can see more members these days have had it with EVM and the cherry picked verses and fear mongering. The ministers have been calling out the sleeping members more now, and that should say something to them to change something.
The one time they were kind of praising God I remember was about them saying that nothing was impossible with God. That was the only time I truly felt uplifted, and one of the few times they praised God… 5 years ago",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,OWE: Your college professor was wrong. Only FYM is correct. 🤪,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"That’s the whole Brainwashing Conditioning that they conduct in their preaching. The members are just blind to see the truth especially when they preach love your membership, only members of the INC will go to heaven, monitory money offerings, and special offerings are just a few tactics that they use to gain their wealth in a false and fake Faith.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"I think INC has always done this, particularly in May, Felix's birthmonth. The minister always prefaces every lesson that ""this has been originally prepared by FYM when he was still alive"" or something along those words.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"I think the reason they keep using the same ""INC is true religion and never disobey God-King Edward Manalo and God-Prophet Penis Manalo"" is because:
1. They're being criticized online on social media
2. They've noticed their population is stagnant/decreasing
So their goal is to keep using the ignorance of the typical INC to fear them into remaining in the cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"gotta disprove their critics first - as in, us",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"Because the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the WAY, the TRUTH , and the LIFE!!!! The members of the iglesia Ni Cristo will learn that they’ve been LIED to and that the Felix Manalo prophecy that they preach is FALSE. So do yourself a favor and seek Jesus Christ and his Gospel. YouTube has a lot of verbatim videos of the gospel of Jesus Christ that’s in the Bible, and once you hear it you can compare it to the false preaching that your been listening to in the Eduardo Administration ministry.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"It's the Felix month, what else do we expect? lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,Brainwashing conditioning of the members of the Iglesia Ni Cristo at its FINEST!!! The repetitive preaching of Felix Manalo’s Prophecy is so FALSE! It has nothing to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ that’s truly what Christians should basically know to be Christ like.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"Minister preached the following:
- Don't Leave INC - DT
- Others religions are wrong - DT
- Felix Y. Manalo
- Jesus Christ (just briefly like a side character)
- World is terrible
- Life is hard
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time
- July 27 is WW1
Lesson tally sheet
- WS tallied: 3
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 2
- Propagation - 2
- Detractors - 2
- The Admin - 1
- Others religions are wrong - 3
Others:
- God - 1
- Felix Y. Manalo - 3
- Jesus Christ - 1
- Good values - 1
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 1
- Salvation - 1
- World is terrible - 2
- Life is hard - 2
- Doomsday -1
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time- 2
- July 27 is WW1 - 2
- Being Persecuted- 1
- INC's ""victories""- 1
Other religions are wrong and Felix Y. Manalo takes the lead",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,I love that they stick to July 27. 🤪,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"INC: Let's just keep on repeating it until they think it's true.
#Is this not a cult?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"Nakakaawa ang mga ito na nadaya ni felix manalo. Kung totoong may paghuhukom, ang INCult ang ihahagis sa dagat dagatang apoy at sasabihan ni Cristo na hindi nya nakikilala. Paano maliligtas ang kultong ito e kinalakal ni eduardo manalo ang iglesia. Ginawa nyang negosyo. Not to mention na walang authority na mangaral si felix manalo dahil isa syang bulaang sugo - yung tipong nagkulong lang sa kwarto ng 3 araw at 3 gabi na walang kain at inom - tas bigla nyang dineklarang sugo sya.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"Yes. The district minister in my district will always sound like he’s crying during the prayer but then RIGHT after, he goes right into reminders that don’t even relate to the prayer.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"I asked my classmate who is a member of INC, but she said that even if she tells me, I would not understand. Sheesh",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"Speaking of fear, they also used the recent US shootings as a fearmongering tool stateside
How low can they stoop?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,INC will never learn...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,When the iglesia Ni Cristo preaches a different prophecy that’s not of Jesus Christ it’s truly a CULT!!! The Brainwashing Business tactics that the INC conducts while using cherry picked verses truly works to mislead the weak minded people that don’t truly read nor understand the Bible. The INC ministry has transformed the words of the Bible to a punishing God and GUILT tripping tactics to control its members. The unbelievable brainwashing conditioning of a so called “MEMBERSHIP” that they preach is truly FALSE!!! That membership can be taken away at any time but the UNCONDITIONAL LOVE of Jesus Christ is forever. The INC that expel’s and shames it’s members are not a Christian behavior and not of Jesus Christ’s Gospel that saves people.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,Translate please,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"INC is always on the lookout for chaos, crime, force majeure and say that the end is coming.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"Wtf, they really have gone past the ground at this point, so sickening and disgusting",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,"
Nakakaawa ang mga ito na nadaya ni felix manalo. Kung totoong may paghuhukom, ang INCult ang ihahagis sa dagat dagatang apoy at sasabihan ni Cristo na hindi nya nakikilala.
\[TRANSLATION\]
It is pitiful that they were deceived by felix manalo. If judgement truly exists the INCult would be thrown into the sea of fire and Christ will say that he didn't know them.
Paano maliligtas ang kultong ito e kinalakal ni eduardo manalo ang iglesia. Ginawa nyang negosyo.
\[TRANSLATION\]
How could the cult receive the salvation if eduardo manalo made it his business.
Not to mention na walang authority na mangaral si felix manalo dahil isa syang bulaang sugo - yung tipong nagkulong lang sa kwarto ng 3 araw at 3 gabi na walang kain at inom - tas bigla nyang dineklarang sugo sya.
\[TRANSLATION\]
Not to mention felix manalo has no authority to preach because he is a false messenger - He just locked himself in the room for 3 days and 3 nights without food and drink - then he suddenly declared himself a messenger",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,Very well said!!! I’m glad that other people can see the Lie’s and misinterpreted preaching that the Manalo Administration conducts.Thank you very much for the translation. Take care and God Bless you🙏🏼,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 24 - May 26, 2022)",uwribf,2022-05-24,thanks for the translation :),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uwribf/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_24_may_26/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"It was all about propagation basically if you participate its for Gods glory, if you dont you will end up in hell. They used the parable of Jesus about giving him food when he was hungry, clothing him when he was naked, visiting him in prison etc( Mat.25:31-40) and those who didnt do that ( verse 41-45) go to hell along with the Devil. Doing all those things toJjesus is doing it to the brethren so Jesus and the church are connected , participate in the works of the church you are doing it for Jesus. They also mentioned Jesus talking about finding the lost sheep, meaning talk to and invite those who are not members. Everything taking out of context of course ,Felix created a monster!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"DT: Intensive Propagation
**Verses**
* [Luke 15:4-10](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+15%3A4-10&version=NKJV) (Break after every verse except 5)
* 4-6 outline the parable of the lost sheep
* 7-10 outline the parable of the lost coin
* [Matthew 25:31-46](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A31-46&version=NKJV) (Break after 33, 34, 36, 40, 43, & 44)
* Goats vs. Sheep parable
**Hymns**
* 211 (“Father, We Thank You So Much”)
* mention of calling into the church
* only hymn today where the brethren sing to God
* 329 (“He Is Waiting for Us to Worship Him”)
* lecture hymn disguised as a praise hymn
* refrain namedrops the church
* verse 3 mentions not being separated from INC
* 477 (“With Intensive Fervor, Share the Truth”)
* demonstrates INC’s lack of subtlety
* first part of refrain sounds like “Ode to Joy”. Does the music dept. now have to rewrite the “hymn”?
* 485 (“Nothing Ever Can Compare to the True Life”)
* obedience/submission
* first verse contains not only a mention of the church but also a namedrop!
* only hymn today where the brethren sing to Christ
* 462 (“I Will Gain the Reward”)
* obedience
* 398 (“Hold on to the Words of God”)
* lecture/obedience hymn
* despite the title, both the messenger and administration receive mention
* [“I Am a Member of the CHURCH OF CHRIST”](https://youtu.be/6jtvxZ_fay8)
* THE obedience/submission hymn!
* Were you hoping the minister or worker would forget? Even if they did, unless your TSV also forgets, chances are you will be let down.
* [366 (“Renew Our Lives”)](https://youtu.be/TnjrBa6eJ78)
* **4** stanzas, a refrain sung 4x, **and** a coda of lecture/obedience!
**Other Observations**
* Another “lesson” outlined by FYM.
* Of course, the homily contains more pushing for brethren to accept offices and share links & *God’s Message* magazines.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"Propagation lesson outlined by FYM.. focusing on inviting guests and similar. The phrases “bearing fruit”, “sharing faith”, and “fruits of convert, “intensify the work of propagation” were heard, very common and repeated ones.
Good luck inviting guests when they can easily do some research and see why it’s more of a cult and can see the controversies. FYM did not prophesize Google and the exposure of the unchristian activities.
Instead of intensifying the works of propagation, they should intensify renewal of their church while they still can. Clean house, rid the pedophiles and criminals, make things less shitty, understand that people have lives, and don’t put the church administration up there with God and Jesus.
I guess in a way I am helping in sharing faith. I’m sharing faith in the fact that this cult is a cult, and I’m spreading the word. I’m helping with the works of propagation by sharing the culty material with my friends that they can clearly see is cult material. I’m bearing fruits by keeping them in my fridge, I’m converting fruits of converts by helping my trapped semi-OWE friends and allowing them to be themselves.
Huh, this may be the shortest lesson I’ve gone through so far, at the least this year. Less than 30, more than 20 minutes. This whole lesson of course was not about worshipping God or Jesus, and was pretty much an advertisement for propagation and sharing faith, with fear mongering on the side.
3/10 I guess..? i’m never gonna rate a worship service 10/10 unless they admit their wrongdoings, come clean, and if it’s genuinely uplifting, which the last one was 5 years ago.
Speaking of bearing fruits, I’m gonna go and make a fruit smoothie from the fruits I bore by buying them somewhere.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"Propagation desperation by INC. This is probably because lots of people have left or got expelled by the church due to the election. Why else would they scare members into finding converts using the ""Lake of fire"" word?
I cringed when the minister referenced the FYM movie ughh...
They reminded us to take office because it is a (accursed) gift from god that one must not refuse.
Also they reminded us not to forget to like and subscribe to their INC propaganda and also show it to the ""devils"" outside INC.
Then like a tape on replay, they said once again that ""INC is growing and other religions are selling their churches"".
Lesson covered the following:
- Propagation - DT (all throughout)
- Others religions are wrong - DT
- Felix Y. Manalo
- Lake of Fire (for those with no converts)
- Only INC will be saved
- Take church office
- INC is growing
- Other religions are failing
- Watch INC propaganda
As always, here's my lesson tally sheet:
- WS tallied: 4
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 2
- Propagation - 3
- Detractors - 2
- The Admin - 1
- Others religions are wrong - 4
Others:
- God - 1
- Felix Y. Manalo - 4
- Jesus Christ - 1
- Good values - 1
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 1
- Lake of Fire - 1
- Salvation - 1
- Only INC will be saved - 1
- World is terrible - 2
- Life is hard - 2
- Doomsday -1
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time- 2
- July 27 is WW1 - 2
- Take church office - 1
- Being Persecuted- 1
- INC's ""victories""- 1
- INC is growing- 1
- Other religions are failing - 1
- Watch INC propaganda - 1",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"Like everyone said, lesson is about propagation. Why they call it ""spreading the good news"" when all the lessons are doom and gloom is beyond me.
And *again* they had to use the recent shootings as fuel. They were implying (because not even INC has the gall to say it outright) that, because the victims of those shootings were not in the church, did not have God. That the members must be swift in ""saving"" others from such a fate.
What the fuck.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"It is funny how they will use these exact same verses to refer to it as edification vs. propagation. There are many things they will use and say can be ""both"" but vehemently deny a verse which could be taken another way if it does not cater to their mindset.
**THOUGHT** CONTROL and **INFORMATION** CONTROL.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"Am I still able to? I have -14 klarna. Perhaps, I can put my reply to a separate post? I appreciate you responding to me.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"I discovered Assembly of Yahusha in Youtube 2 months ago. I am not a member there. I am still part of INC, but I have been drawn to the teachings of the Assembly of Yahusha as they teach the Scriptures written in the Bible in depth.
If anyone out here who still has the desire to learn the Scriptures, and is currently a lost sheep like I am because of several corruption, repetitive and hateful lessons in INC, have an open Mind and listen to the Assembly of Yahusha.
Every time, I listen to it’s teachings, I don’t feel so lost anymore. There is Always a sense of Peace I feel, not Fear like INC teachings make me feel.
There are many times that I even cry when I listen even if it is in Youtube because I am learning that our Almighty God (Yahuah) is a Loving God and his son our Christ (Yahusha) is our King who is there to protect us. We just have to do our part and go to them, seek them, repent. Our Almighty Father and our Christ are waiting for us. They are not there waiting to Punish us because we don’t submit to the Administration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,we're about to enter an INC era where the faithful members are going to become a free call center for scams,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"> Instead of intensifying the works of propagation, they should intensify renewal of their church while they still can. Clean house, rid the pedophiles and criminals, make things less shitty, understand that people have lives, and don’t put the church administration up there with God and Jesus.
I agree. This may make the church more tolerable, however, this does not rectify many of the false teachings and the way the church uses the Bible.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,Very well said and truly makes a lot of sense 🙏🏼,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"""Instead of intensifying the works of propagation, they should intensify renewal of their church while they still can. Clean house, rid the pedophiles and criminals, make things less shitty, understand that people have lives, and don’t put the church administration up there with God and Jesus.""
Starting at the top/church administration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"So if you don't bear fruit or get someone to convert, you get the 'lake of fire'? So sad for cultists. They're never enough for the God of the INCult. 🤪",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,WoW!!! The Iglesia Ni Cristo truly should tell the victims families that all those people that got shot will not go to heaven,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"Agree 💯. If it suits them, it's the truth. If it doesn't, it's the word of the Devil.
#Not a cult? Wake up please.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"A moderator would need to approve it. But I would highly suggest if you plan on including any mention of AOY, that you clearly state your disagreements with INC doctrine, etc. This way it will abide by the sub-rules.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"So this assembly of Yahusha is Unitarian? I inferred this based on how you used two different names for God and Christ?
Btw, your comment has nothing to do with the weekend WS. You should have made a post instead. Just my opinion.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,Its another cult bro,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,its another Manalo-based cult mate. Felix Manalo is a proven fraud. Wake up.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"Same shit, different toilet.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"Actually, it has nothing to do with INC, so it shouldn't be here at all.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"I apologize, I commented on a wrong subject. I am still learning in navigating and posting in this site.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"I thought so too, until I listened.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"Oh I woke up, after I listened.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"I think it will be fun to discuss this breakaway church from the INCult. The name itself is the same.
The church in the bible represents an assembly more than an organization, and the Yahusha refers to Christ.
Assembly of Yahusha = Church of Christ. Wow, so much difference, right?
Now, the next interesting question is: is it also a cult?
I think that would be fun to discuss. What doctrines were copied and removed? Anyway, it might be only fun for me so I am not saying you're wrong. 🤗",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"Actually it does, and I’m calling to anyone to give it a try who has loved the INC, but just feeling “lost.”",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"no you havent.
Assembly bases its teachings on the same lies INC bases its doctrines on -- which this sub has proven many times to be false and manipulative!
It's a mental gymnastics group on how EVM is wrong while preserving FYM's ridiculous claims. What makes INC false ALSO makes Assembly false. They are cut from the same cloth after all.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"I didn't realize it was a breakaway from the INC. If so, I rescind what I said about it having nothing to do with INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"I’m calling to those who still have the desire to learn the Scriptures written in the Bible. To give it a chance and have an open mind and listen to the teachings of the Assembly of Yahusha.
I understand many on this site have completely gone Atheist, unbelievers, etc and I Respect those individuals. But if there is anyone who has loved the INC, perhaps even just one who is just “lost” right now because of what has happened to INC, the teachings from the Assembly of Yahusha will give you light and understanding.
Prophecies are fulfilling right in front of our very eyes, and God’s work of Restoration and Salvation continues.
Christ’s sheep know him, they hear his voice. They don’t listen to strangers. Christ knows his sheep and he hears them.
So if this sparks any curiosity to anyone, it won’t hurt to give it a click and listen to the Assembly of Yahusha. I suggest to listen to their Bible History Projects and Bible Questions and Answers.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"Post submissions must have a clear-cut association with the Iglesia Ni Cristo.
When in doubt, use the Weekly Open Discussion Thread instead. This includes infographics, posts, or advice that pertains to religion and cults in general.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"To me, I have. But I do Respect your opinion. Saying it All with love, we can agree to disagree:)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"[https://assemblyofyahusha.org/bible-questions-and-answers/](https://assemblyofyahusha.org/bible-questions-and-answers/)
Ctrl+F Manalo. Its a mental gymnastics support group about how EVM's INC is not the fulfillment of the last messenger FYM.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,Ok thanks.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"I was hoping those individuals could see my replies, but I totally understand. All with love. God bless:)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,Does the weekly open discussion thread still exist? I thought it had been replaced by the Tagalog language thread.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,i wasnt stating an opinion. It is demonstrable fact.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"\^\^ This. It is still INC-style preaching for those who left INC because of EVM's mishandling of sh\*t but still needed to live an INC lifestyle.
They have a lot of ammo because they were ex-INC ministers--especially Jon Dizon-- but there is no more truth in the AOY than there is at a Burger King (which is an off-shoot of McDonalds). It's a burger just cooked a different way.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,"Please make a separate thread if you want to express your thoughts about INC, etc. This is reserved for Worship Service Lessons. Thanks.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,Then I respect your true statements. God Bless:),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (May 27 - May 30, 2022)",uyyuhs,2022-05-27,">AOY than there is at a Burger King (which is an off-shoot of McDonalds). It's a burger just cooked a different way
The power of re-branding.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/weekend_worship_service_examination_may_27_may_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,I know they’ve announced it last ws but I feel bad for any animator/artist who would (or forced to) join that stupid animation project INC is putting up. Like this is basically slavery when they hire animators to do their bs FOR FREE.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"The youth are the most disillusioned population of INC, they know this. They told us not to listen to the wisdom of men, instead let's listen to the wisdom of ~~some old ass Filipino men disconnected from the world~~ God.
Speaking of which, prepare yourselves to listen to more wisdom from the head old ass Filipino man himself, Eddy boi, this weekend. He's probably gonna tell the parents to go on our phones and find our accounts, and then abuse and punish us more.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"The lesson is about “Karunungang Panlupa” but somehow our minister segwayed the lesson to be about parents. He said that we, the children, should always follow and respect our parents because they will guide us to be a better person for the church. For sure my dad will use today’s lesson again to manipulate and gaslight us to attend panatas and pamamahayags. Ugh he’s going to tell us again and again that he’s a dad and a solid church follower so we should follow whatever he says. This minister is always biased towards men and parents. I can’t help but to just take a nap halfway through the WS 😭",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"No matter what they do, the internet will prevail.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,I somewhat feel that this is a response to the growing disatisfaction of young members within the church. Especially after the recent elections.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"Sorry but I'll be posting in Tagalog.
Mahalaga ang pagtatamo ng karunungang panlupa pero kapag taliwas na ito sa itinuturo ng biblia, hindi dapat ito paniwalaan. Ang pagtatamo ng karunungang panlupa ay mahalaga lamang dito sa mundo, pero sa Bayang Banal, mas mahalaga ang mga salita ng Diyos. Kapag may mga influencer sa social media na nagsasabi ng taliwas sa aral ng Diyos ay wag natin itong paniwalaan, ni i-like or i-share ang posts. Kundi tangkilikin natin ang social media pages ng Iglesia ni Cristo.
Summary of what I've heard. 🤢",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"Sorry for the late post, had a busy non-INC related schedule after WS.
Lesson was basically:
- Be ""wise"", it's good for you but don't be too wise. We still need to exploit you. Oh, what we meant to say is, if you let us exploit you, then your wiser than the wise!
Ministers sprinkled a bit of these to help us stay ""wise"":
- Offerings
- Propagation
- The Administration (submit to the admin)
- Felix Y. Manalo
- World is terrible
- Attend church activities
- Attend WS
Freakin cringey if you ask me. They're trying to control how we use the internet now? All while trying to sound that they have our best interests in mind by telling us to be wise...then distort its meaning in the end.
My parents can't see through this BS. They even think its one of the ""good lessons"". WTF?
Well anyway, I'll just post this tally sheet of mine cause why not?
WS tallied: 5
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 2
- Offerings - 1
- Propagation - 4
- Detractors - 2
- The Admin - 2
- Others religions are wrong - 4
Others:
- God - 1
- Felix Y. Manalo - 5
- Jesus Christ - 1
- Good values - 1
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 1
- Lake of Fire - 1
- Salvation - 1
- Only INC will be saved - 1
- World is terrible - 3
- Life is hard - 2
- Doomsday -1
- Attend church activities - 1
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time- 2
- July 27 is WW1 - 2
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 1
- Being Persecuted- 1
- INC's ""victories""- 1
- INC is growing- 1
- Other religions are failing - 1
- Watch INC propaganda - 1
- Be wise but stay blind - 1
Edit: Oh by the way, cult leader ""tuloy"" special this weekend. Anyone excited?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"Lesson started about the youth being so “smart” these days, they said smart in a sort of looking-down-on tone, like it’s a bad thing.
Seems to be about mainly the youth, and education. Two things that can bring down the INC. They say how some information can deceive us, allow us to be led astray, and I guess that’s kind of true. Some of the tampered, biased, contextless teachings can make you forget how to be a individual.
They say that certain things sound smart.. sound familiar? They act very confident in teaching incorrect dates, such as the start of WW1.
Edit: Accidentally sent comment too early while typing",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"* Proverbs 4:7
* Ecclesiastes 7:11
* Ecclesiastes 7:12, 19
* Proverbs 1:7
* Isaiah 47:10
* Proverbs 3:1, 5-6
* Isaiah 2:3
* Proverbs 1:25-28
* Proverbs 1:29
* Hosea 14:9
* Psalm 1:1-3
* I John 2:24-25
**Stray Thoughts/Observations**
* Social Media against the Church and Detractors were mentioned (mostly in the latter half of the “sermon”). I think INC might be trying to set a world record for “Most Eye Rolls in a Single Worship Service.” Moving on before they get any more bright ideas…
* Not helping is the fact that this lesson was targeted toward the youth.
* PPV will occur this weekend. I would ask if we’ve been through enough, but to the INC admin, enough is never enough…
* I would also ask if these ministers/workers ever stop talking, but we all know the answer (and so do they!)…
* Here INC goes, claiming its doctrine never changed and never will, yet failing to prove such by making us “DeTrAcToRs” eat our words.
* Does anyone else’s minister/worker announce the last verse(s), only to prattle for what seems like an eternity?
* Only one hymn today where we sang to God (240, and that’s only if you attended the officers’ prayer), and one other where we sang to Christ (71).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,not sure what the Tagalog lesson was but our lesson was all about obtaining Gods wisdom from the Bible rather than seeking mans wisdom. Examples of mans wisdom was searching the internet ( lol ) and worldy knowledge. Said it was ok to have an education etc as long as it does not go against Gods wisdom. Most of the verses plucked from Proverbs.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,Does anyone remember one of the video skits from the youth summit where a 'non-inc' friend said 'oh I kind of thought you guys were a cult 👀'? Because that's all I was thinking about during this lesson lmao.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"The first half is about duty (from what I remember) and the second half is mostly about social media. Pretty typical though a bit annoying. I want to devote all my attention to the hymns because 478 is sung and that makes me super happy. It's my favorite hymn so them putting it in is super based. Happy to hear it again. This WS gets a 6/10 for the sole reason that 478 makes the WS better. Without it, it'd just be 3/10 because the lesson somehow got on my nerves more than any WS from May.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,The lesson is all about being Smart but don't be smart at the same time like wtf?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"WISDOM…..here’s an example of true wisdom from the Bible in scriptures John 3:15-17 “that EVERYONE who believes in Jesus Christ may have eternal life”
“EVERYONE” overthrowing the INC “membership”
Find the definition of “EVERYONE” then you’ll see how the INC ministry has misinterpreted the Holy Bible.
This is a small example of the LIE’S that the Eduardo Administration has preached. There’s more Lies, and misinterpreted scriptures of the INC ministry.
Seek WISDOM!!!! In reading the Holy Bible……….as the Iglesia Ni Cristo ministry has preached “WISDOM”, and truly you’ll find and read the truth of the Lie’s and Toxic misinterpretation of the Iglesia Ni Cristo’s preaching of the Bible.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"Wednesday night's service was the usual stuff, but the minister kept saying the same thing over and over again. So what could have been a 25 minute lesson turned into a 50 minute snoozefest.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"WTF? Wow... good luck doing this. If you thought you had cringy pressure deadlines with regular INC Office work, be on the media team's schedule.
The funny part is that I bet it is completely free labor and they'll pass it off as ""experience"" and you're making the world better with your work for the Lord. INC Media actually get paid for the work they do or at least they used to. The INC Media staff do for sure---and they get paid well. All member's money.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"I actually considered this just to take the free classes and tutorials but I thought that since it's INC, I will have to provide for the applications and devices to use so NOPE.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,I was almost registered for that against my will. I wouldn't even do it if it was paid. Are they trying to make an INC version of the JW Caleb and Sophia videos? Guessing that weird sheep isn't too appealing to kids.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,Another PPV? What the fck,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"Our minister even said your kids might have even blocked you on social media, don’t feel bad for snooping around, you have the right.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,">the internet will prevail.
100% ",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"Summary ko, ""Okay lang bobo kasi ang mahalaga INC ka"" 🤡",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,Sabihin nalang kasi nilang wag maniwala sa Reddit. 🤣,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,Information Control yan,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"TL: Acquiring secular knowledge is important but when it is contrary to what the bible teaches, it should not be believed. Acquiring secular knowledge is important only in this world, but in the Holy Land, the words of God are even more important. When there are influencers on social media who say [things] contrary to the teachings of God let's not believe it, nor like or share the posts. But let's enjoy the social media pages of Iglesia ni Cristo.
Yep…INC is *totally* not a cult…",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,">Oh by the way, cult leader ""tuloy"" special this weekend. Anyone excited?
\*cue the crickets chirping\*
For real though, I just might change my reporting this time around by focusing more on their actual arguments/commentary and their hand-picked selection of Bible verses and less on the numbers (prayer lengths, tuloy/continue tally, etc.) just to show the cult that life has more to it than numbers and statistics. Depending on how bad the hymns get, I’ll see how much commentary I can incorporate before it takes too much focus from my report on the sermon.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"> They say how some information can deceive us, allow us to be led astray
Talking about themselves, am I right? 🤣",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,Me!!! Lol they even managed to include that,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"At that moment I felt myself become instantly awake and I wanted them to repeat it again for the people in the back
For such an important detail they kind of went over it quickly, I also wonder how it got approved in the script",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,yall actually go to those things? they just sound like more brainwashing but for the younger people,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"I obviously ain’t gonna be part of that project. I’m too busy trying to make my own cartoon series. Hopefully with mine, I could maybe convince young INC members to think more about the cult and help them get out.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"Don't. You probably get better just going on YouTube - and I'm saying that without even looking.
They are just going to recruit you with their nonstop bullshit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"Zero privacy. Love it... /s
I don't expect much from them, but damn. There's a reason ""nosy"" has a negative connotation.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"Hindi ako papayag na bobo ako. Bigay ng Diyos ang utak ko. Gagamitin ko to.
Kung puro bobo naman pala sa langit, sa impyerno na lang ako. May makakausap pa ko ng may sense habang nakatanaw sa dagat-dagatang apoy. 🤣",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"TL: My summary, ""It's okay to be stupid because it's important that you INC""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,TL: Just tell them not to believe in Reddit.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,Thanks for the translation bud! 🙂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,That's a good idea - better to disprove them through their favorite book,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,Yup!!!!! The hypocrisy that the INC preaches is very obvious. I’m glad the Eduardo Administration can recognize that the youth of this generation are getting wiser and that the youth are acknowledging the INC Cult Brainwashing Conditioning preaching.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,I couldn't get out of that one but I wish I could've because it was just another massive waste of time,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,"TL: I will not allow myself to be stupid. God gave me my brain. I will use it.
If I was a fool in heaven, I would be in hell. I can still talk to someone with sense while looking at the lake of fire.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (May 31 - Jun 02, 2022)",v1qxqq,2022-05-31,Thank you! 😊,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/midweek_worship_service_examination_may_31_jun_02/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"I love the part where he shared his conversation with a pastor.
The pastor said they hoped to have a good government and EVM replied that we should prepare for the Holy Land instead because God will destroy this world anyway. It's like straight up saying ""Yep we fucked up the Philippines! We did that! 👉😉👉""
Summary of PPV: Obey and be submissive.
Duration: ~2 hours. (The prayers were LOOOONGG asf)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"Summary: ""Beware of 'online intellectualism'. Don't forget to obey and never complain 😊.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"PPV this weekend 🙄 I'll ask the most important question:
Gaano kahaba teksto? [How long was the lesson?]",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"Our dear cult leader Bro. EVM preached the following:
- Offerings
- Propagation
- The Administration
- Others religions are wrong
- Felix Y. Manalo
- Bible stories
- Don't hate your fellow INC
- Lake of Fire
- Salvation
- World is terrible
- Doomsday
- Intensive renewal of life
- Disregard yourselves
- INC's ""victories""
- Other religions are failing
- Fight for your faith
Absolutely long and absolutely boring. Tried to get the points of his lesson for my checklist while counting his ""tuloys"" to keep me busy.
I think I heard EVM said at some point that it's ""also for their benefit"" and not just ours if we follow and obey (I think). It kind of made me laugh because it's actually true. It's called exploitation.
And then there's that madatory ""INC is victorious because milestone anniversary"" and ""other religions are crumbling"" bullshit again.
And of course, the madatory mock prayer in the end to make those who are brainwashed enough cry. I actually looked around to see who's crying.
Didn't close my eyes during their cry praying episodes. Saw like 4 more guys who didn't close their eyes either.
What a special day indeed. Glad to see some sane people there who weren't taking their cry praying playbacks seriously too.
A special tally sheet for a special PPV day:
- WS tallied: 6
- PPVs: 1
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 2
- Offerings - 2
- Propagation - 5
- Detractors - 2
- The Admin - 3
- Others religions are wrong - 5
Others:
- God - 1
- Felix Y. Manalo - 6
- Jesus Christ - 1
- Bible story - 1
- Good values - 1
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 2
- Lake of Fire - 2
- Salvation - 2
- Only INC will be saved - 1
- World is terrible - 3
- Life is hard - 2
- Doomsday - 2
- Attend church activities - 1
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time- 2
- July 27 is WW1 - 2
- Intensive renewal of life - 1
- Disregard yourselves - 1
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 1
- Being Persecuted- 1
- INC's ""victories""- 2
- INC is growing- 1
- Other religions are failing - 2
- Watch INC propaganda - 1
- Be wise but stay blind - 1
- Fight for your faith - 1
EVM special:
- Today's tuloys - 49 (though I may have missed one due to me zoning out)
It appears that the Felix Y. Manalo/Sugo topic is still leading. Never once did they fail to talk about him since I began tallying.
Edit: removed topics not yet talked about in lessons since the beginning of the tally.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"If you love yourself and your mental health, please skip this Webex. It's too damn long and super boring! Even ministers fell asleep. lol. Trust me.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"* [Romans 13:12](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Romans%2013:12)
* [Ephesians 6:11](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Ephesians%206:11)
* [Proverbs 1:32](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Proverbs%201:32)
* [Job 36:11](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Job%2036:11)
* [Proverbs 5:12-14](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%205%3A12-14&version=NKJV)
* *The Administration* & *Detractors* mentioned, though the latter not explicitly.
* [Job 20:4-7](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+20%3A4-7&version=NKJV)
* *Detractors* continued, though still not explicitly.
* [Psalm 32:10](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Psalm%2032:10)
* [Colossians 2:6-8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+2%3A6-8&version=NKJV)
* *Social Media against the Church* mentioned.
* [Ephesians 4:1-3](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Eph+4%3A1-3&version=NKJV)
* *Offerings* & *Other Religions Are Wrong* mentioned.
* [Hebrews 11:24-27](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Heb+11%3A24-27&version=NKJV)
* [Isaiah 65:17-19](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa+65%3A17-19&version=NKJV)
* [Isaiah 65:24](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Isaiah%2065:24)
As usual, the lesson boils down to *Don't Leave the INC*. Because of my inattention, I failed to catch if *Intensive Propagation* got a mention, even if only implicit. EDIT: Others have commented that *Intensive Propagation* was indeed mentioned, meaning this PPV had all seven Deadly Themes mentioned (even if some were only done so implicitly)!
Hymns today basically repeated from [last weekend](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/uyyuhs/comment/iabjiww/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), except with [443 (“It’s You, Above All Others, Father Dear, We Will Love Now and Forevermore”)](https://youtu.be/oO0z0UumuPQ) instead of 485, 62 (""My Duty Divine"") instead of 462, and of course no ""I Am a Member"". I discussed 443 [here (5th paragraph)](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/nor1jq/comment/h01oo14/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). Unlike the rest of the PPV lineup, 62 had previously gone many years before resurfacing (as a rewritten composition). As the title implies, the hymn guilt trips remaining believers into keeping their duty/ies: *""Oh, my consolation in this life is fulfilling my duty,""* begins the refrain.
I know I said in the [midweek discussion thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v1qxqq/comment/iay9x95/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) that I would consider focusing more on INC's arguments, commentary, and hand-picked verses, but the limited notes I did manage to take only rehash the same ones from many if not all of my previous PPV write-ups.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"Too many ""tanga"" in one lesson. ""Standing on the shoulder of giants"" -trying to imitate Eli Soriano's charm. Because why not, same business same crowd. But Soriano's charm came from his energy and unfortunately the most important person's delivery was lukewarm.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,PPV has always been a minimum time suck of 90mins+. So I'd start off with that expectation.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"PPV.. long prayers, *have* to be there early for some reason, and mind-numbingly boring.
They mentioned how people are materialistic and I guess I agree to a certain degree. However, they word it like *everyone* outside the church is. In my experience, I’ve met humbled strangers nicer than most members in the church, and sometimes those materialistic people. I got a egotistic vibe from EVM from some parts. I guess that’s where the attitude of some of these egotistic OWE come from.
The part with the story of the pastor and EVM.. I agree with the pastor but EVM implies that a good government is irrelevant. Easy to say because a good government would put down the INC more. I guess they prefer not having a good government to support their claims the world is not getting better.
I timed the lesson from start to the hymns, 1 hour and 17 minutes I think. Adding the strange requirement to be there early makes it two hours. Mind numbingly boring lesson, egotistic and feels cherry picked and biased.
Can’t wait for the INC to fall here in the west, I want to see those big egos obliterated.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"EVM on this WWS: "" what happened to other religion, are they successful?
Anonymous: is INC successful with Catholics in the Philippines? Not to mention Islam yet...
How successful INC with the data provided, in the Philippines alone?
Since they are already preaching that the end is near, are they running out of time, cuz they haven't started with Islam yet...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"PPV thoughts:
- Prayers were painstakingly long and as usual, repeatedly praying for EVM
- My mind wandered. i dozed off. But I can tell the summary of it. He mentioned that salvation is more important, we should not neglect our duties: offerings, bearing fruits, we should not believe everything we see in social media, and mentioned about uNiTy as well.
- His face looks bothered.. I dunno. Just a feeling.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,PPV. Minimum of 90 minutes 😡,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"So uh... double 443! This Thursday we're singing it again so honestly this lineup sucks ass. Like last week's lineup was pretty good but they took out everything that made it good: 485 and 462. Instead they replaced it with 62 (which I don't love nearly as much as 462), and 443 (which is baffling because it will be sung in the WS AFTER this one). I still don't like 398 as much as 391 and I'm getting really tired of it (it was sung in Mar. 2021 PPV, May 2021 PPV, Sept. 2021 PPV, February 2022, and last week dear god stop repeating this song). Also it's a PPV so it's SUPER BORING. One thing I do appreciate is how they actually remember that the other hymns exist and are starting to play them in different melodies instead of being repetitive. Before this 11, 241, 83, and 62 were just forgotten. I don't like how they're changing all of them though. I wish some of them kept their original melodies (please INC don't change 20 I really like it).
2/10. Awful lineup with super boring and long lesson.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"Are we the only one's who have 18 - 30 yr old men meetings/pulong today? I heard it's about choosing career (to be minister). Not going to attend so I don't what exactly they might discuss.
I guess they're running out of men wanting to be minister.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"The prayer after the ordination is so senseless, the minister only described the adventures of these workers before being ordained.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"PPV? Naw,hard pass.I have better things to do😏",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"PPV of Tagalog in which I don’t understand it’s language (it’s not a Filipino church what BS) but the prayer was in English that praised Eduardo and his family continuously. I can imagine what Eduardo must have been preaching to brainwash his members. Maybe he asked forgiveness to his mother and brother for disowning them, that would be a true Christian thought. The prayer of praising Eduardo and is family is such Cult worshiping. I can’t believe how much Filipino people has been brainwashed to think that the salvation is through Eduardo Manalo and that his Love is true. Eduardo doesn’t even Love his own Mother or brother, but they preach that he loves the members of the Iglesia Ni Culto. Brainwashing conditioning at it’s Finest once again of the Iglesia Ni Cristo’s leader loving his members. Nothing of Jesus Christ’s Love nor his Gospel thats in the Bible. I’m so glad that this Subreddit was created to show the people of the world the Lies and manipulated Bible interpretations the INC conducts.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"Any incminister/worker/hd who had prayed caught neglecting to mention the full name of evm will soon find out to be the accursed rebel to be kicked out from position or worse subjected to torture if he doesnt reveal associates. Being a minister is like being the arm/foot/mouth/finger/tongueof inc in capturing non inc people to become inc. Next duty is to force new inc mbrs to attend the twice wkly brainwashing worships to know and obey all the manalo man made doctrines.Failure to obey any one of inc increasing duties will subject the offender to suffer hell. What are these increasing duties? Yearly thanksgiving offerings increase or increase of lagak. Increase of soul fruits or converts. Increase of kinds of offerings: aid for humanity, locale, district, cfo,. Also private money makings such as buying mushrooms products of inc plantations which officers required to buy and funds collected privately. Increase of inc organizations under the unbrella of christian family org. Media organizations. Political organizations. An inc member is like a brainwashed slave of manalo ready to obey whatever is commanded of him/her that his/her bank account or wealth is owned by inc cult leader. Strict do's and don'ts that violation of any of which causes you to lose salvation and suffer hell of etrnal punishment in the lake of fire. Sadly, when you die, you are just a garbage of manalo to be delisted from church rolls and forgotten. There is only one inc mbr who is remembered every May issue of inc pasugo mazine. That name is FYM.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,His answer and decision is very selfish and only for the glutton of money.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,Lesson was about an hour. Whole PPV was approx 2 hours 🥲🥲.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"We started I think at 1:45, then we ended at 3:30!! Damn.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,Do the inc doors close earlier if it's manalo ppv or can I show up at the usual time,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,Thanks for the award! 😁,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,Nice one.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,I've seen ministers dozing off in the PPVs 🤣,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,Thank you for your effort,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,I do want to have proof based on their number of members every year compared to Islams.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"The veneration of EVM is astounding. He get's prayed for more than Jesus Christ. What members should realize is that these members of the ""church administration"" are prayed for day-in-and-day-out. Sometimes by OWES 24/7 if you count all around the world at any given time. EVM and these guys get prayed for even for food. ""Give them the best of health."" EVM has been sick. He's had the flu, I'm sure. Heck, Jun Santos and his wife died of pneumonia (which may have also been COVID related complications for rushing back to the houses of worship so quickly).
Point is, these men still get sick and they are just like us--regular humans (though they have much fatter wallets). If God is protecting them and answering prayers, why do they get sick? Why do some of them die? How come some of them were expelled or taken out of office? They are overly prayed for constantly...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,That sucks,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,"This will be interesting to see what my spouse does. She missed it yesterday. And today, well let's just say she will have to make some choices, hard choices. This explains some things she said on the phone, so I really appreciate the descriptions given here.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 03 - Jun 06, 2022)",v401mp,2022-06-03,I think you can show up at usual time.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v401mp/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_03_jun_06/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Repulsive topics discussed:
1) Women should submit to their husbands
2) Calendar method is bad because of (1) and should be mutual consent, otherwise, it’s a sin. If you can’t have sexual contact with your husband/wife, then pray together.
3) IVFs and the likes are not allowed. They care so much about the other fused egg and sperm cells that they consider it a “live” person.
4) Men should look for faithful wives - sexism alert!!!
5) Women should respect their husbands
6) No abortion allowed even if you were raped.
7) Just pray to the manalo gods if you want kids
8) After having kids, control them to worship the manalo gods",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Alright that lesson today confirms that INC is sexist towards its own members. Homophobic and Sexist i’m not surprised 🙄,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"There were points that I was happy on how the minister laid out the lesson but when he talked about the family planning and stuff, ah that's where I lost it.. Goodness. Absurd, calendar method is even not encouraged? Wtf? And when you are raped, you cannot even abort the child? Wtf? You should just pray if you want to conceive? Wtf??? You should not rely on the assisted reproductive technology? Wtf??? 🤢",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"I just finished having to sit through that painful hour and all I can say is...what the fuck even was that lesson? I'm not even out of this ""church"" yet and this service alone makes me want to walk out of this hellish organization TODAY, not giving a shit if I'm disowned or not. Heck, even my corrupt parents are flabbergasted. Yeah, my auntie wasn't able to give birth because she didn't pray hard enough...?! Of course! Oh yeah! A child shouldn't abort a fetus even though they were raped, as it's all against the will of God! I haven't once commented on this subreddit only reading through what people have to say in hopes I'll be able to join you all, but THIS seriously leaves me sickened. I wonder how many other services I have to sit through for this week alone until my parents start to realize how RIDICULOUS this ""church"" truly is.
-child who's unable to leave bc of their parents
Enjoy your freedom if you're out of this cult",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,If you’re inc and your only chance of having kids is through science then you’re out of luck. IVF and other means is apparently a sin. Wtf,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"This is an outlier lesson.
Lesson was about:
- Family
- Good Values
- Disregard Science
- Abortion is bad
- Obedience is everything
- Pray for everything
- Only INC will be saved
It was decent to listen to at first. Family planning and all, but then...
""Human intervention for birth is bad! Killing sperms/egg cells are also bad! Been raped? It's God's will too apparently. It's all part God's plan! Can't bear children? Keep praying! Forget Science! Prayer is everything! See? This lesson shows that the church administration truly cares!"" Cries in the end then proceeds to pray for EVM.
This is why I'm never going to have my own family so long as I'm still in this cult.
Today's Tally sheet:
- WS tallied: 7
- PPVs: 1
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 2
- Offerings - 2
- Propagation - 5
- Detractors - 2
- The Admin - 3
- Others religions are wrong - 5
Others:
- God - 1
- Felix Y. Manalo - 6
- Jesus Christ - 1
- Bible story - 1
- Good values - 2
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 2
- Lake of Fire - 2
- Salvation - 2
- Only INC will be saved - 2
- World is terrible - 3
- Life is hard - 2
- Doomsday - 2
- Attend church activities - 1
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time- 2
- July 27 is WW1 - 2
- Intensive renewal of life - 1
- Disregard yourselves - 1
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 1
- Being Persecuted- 1
- INC's ""victories""- 2
- INC is growing- 1
- Other religions are failing - 2
- Watch INC propaganda - 1
- Be wise but stay blind - 1
- Fight for your faith - 1
- Family - 1
- Disregard Science - 1
- Abortion is bad - 1
- Obedience is everything - 1
- Pray for everything - 1
Edit: Changed ""Science is bad"" to ""Disregard science""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"They said abortion is considered murder.
Rape is the murder of the soul and I don’t see a difference. Yet, why do they let those rapists free? They could even come back to INC.
INCult topic in a nutshell: husbands, your wives are your sex slaves",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Ik the WS sucks but what bugs me more is about Artificial insemination, and calendar planning is a sin like huh?
About Abortion, and their homophobic/misogynistic way of thinking it doesn't surprise me since the majority of Abrahamic religions are like that (especially the part that aborting your child is still a sin even if it's a child of a rapist) I just want to roll my eyes ugh.
Religions like these were one of the reasons why our country is backward",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Thank you to everyone for sharing the topics. Gives me an easy one to play ignorant and ask questions of my wife. I actually know an OWE that used IVF to have a baby. And I know they will not be happy to have their decision condemned,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"These comments have me looking forward to the WS to witness them causing controversy potentially among even OWEs.. basically one of those controversial lessons that helps people to think about what they’re hearing.
Five minutes in and I’m already zoning out but the lesson, like others say, regards family and related stuff. Controversially, abortion and telling people what to do.
Interestingly, the minister preaching went off a bit about thanksgiving offerings demanding to know why people aren’t participating.. it wasn’t in a caring tone, more of an angry one. I’ve noticed some tempers slip a bit lately, interesting to see.
Long lesson and I couldn’t even bother to try listening for 5 seconds without my brain automatically focusing elsewhere. The constant ordering around, strict control and fear mongering is just old and annoying now.
I wish they would teach positively instead. Like the benefits of obeying instead of the consequences. It’s just boring and repetitive.
I notice they’re saying “this is what the church administration wants” or “what does the church administration think” instead of God.. they may as well rebrand the church already, that’s all they have to do now. Change the name or something.
Now the minister is descriptively talking about sexual safety measures or something. A middle aged filipino guy preaching it to a crowd that I can see is either uncomfortable or bored. I know the son of this minister, I feel bad for him.
They’re claiming they’re not “professionals”.. yet they brag about themselves being “bible scholars” though..?
They’re still talking about the birth process (10 minutes now) and stuff of a child a little too descriptively. There’s children in the area too. Good thing I know from experience that I would just be zoning out or not understanding anything.
This is the weirdest WS I have gone through in a while I think.
2/10? Mind numbingly boring, more attempts of control over members lives and choices, and I can feel in the air that people were not comfortable. I saw a couple of people get up and walk out. Probably to the bathroom, but that doesn’t usually happen in the middle of a WS.
Guy next to me was snoring too and that was more entertaining because it wasn’t a quiet snore, and they said at the beginning that we should not be sleeping.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Here's a line of thought I haven't seen anyone mention here:
If the INC emphasizes ""procreation"" as literally part of a married couple's responsibility towards their God, wouldn't that carry an implication that **couples who simply refuse to have children are abject sinners?**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"just finished todays midweek service honestly have 3 words:
what the fuck",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Yeah… thanks for the super awkward sex ed lesson with children in attendance.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"This lesson was disgusting and vile, sure, but I couldn't understand a damn word of it. It was just all over the place and poorly organized.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"I wonder how existing INC medical practitioners took this lesson?
Or were they asleep during the service because they're tired from work and the minister was boring? lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,I’m currently sitting in WS listening to this BS of a lesson. The lesson plus the tone of this horrible minister doesn’t jive well. Reminds me of the marriage seminar which should be informed only in the marriage seminar not during WS where we have young children who do not fully understand these topics.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"* [Psalm 128:1-4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+128%3A1-4&version=NKJV)
* [Proverbs 18:22](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Proverbs%2018:22)
* [2 Corinthians 6:14](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+6%3A14&version=NKJV)
* [Hebrews 13:4](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Hebrews%2013:4)
* [Romans 7:2](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Romans%207:2)
* [1 Corinthians 7:4-5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+7%3A4-5&version=NKJV)
* [Psalm 139:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Psalm%20139:13)
* [1 Samuel 1:9-11](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+1%3A9-11&version=NKJV)
* [Ephesians 5:28, 33](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+5%3A28%2C+33&version=NKJV)
* [Ephesians 6:1-4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+6%3A1-4&version=NKJV) (4 was read first)
* [1 Peter 5:6-7](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+5%3A6-7&version=NKJV)
Apologies if I missed any verses. The sermon revolved around the INC-sanctioned marriage and family unit. Not sure how this would fall within the Deadly Themes.
443 was sung two WSes in a row following last weekend’s PPV. After that is 502 (“Prepare for That Great Day”), a lifeless lecture hymn before the text. Barring a lecture praise hymn of 328 (“Give Praise to Him, Give Praise to Him”), the other hymns (officers’ prayer 200; 56; 116; recessional 287) were the usual and quite forgettable.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Gusto kong masuka kanina habang nasa pagsamba. Definetly I just wasted my time,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Super long WS i turned off my brain mid-service,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Ayoko talaga sumamba ngayon wala manlang ako reason para di sumamba. Kainis.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"I asked my classmates to move a meeting I was going to have to 7:15 AM because these stupid pieces of trash normally end at 7:00 AM. I GOT HOME AT 7:30. WHY IS IT SO LONG FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. IT DOESN'T END. Every new thing the minister talks about adds another 15 minutes to the lesson. IT IS LONGER THAN SEVERAL PPVS. Not to mention how awful the lesson actually was. I don't remember the earlier segments though I do remember some mentions of pregnancy and that wasn't good. Near the end, it became a lesson about PRAYERS. It was incoherent, messy, tedious, and all around awful.
Even more sad is how the lineup can't save this garbage-fire. Most WS's are saved by their hymns (it's a me thing because I love the hymns). Like the one from last week. The lesson there was pretty bad but the them singing 478, my favorite hymn, made it worth it. My thoughts on them are:
\-328 is not good (which is rare because they're pretty consistent with opening hymns)
\-56 is pretty good
\-116 is played too often (this is the only hymn that I'll give that complaint because other common hymns haven't been sung much this year).
\-443 is my favorite out of the lineup and would've made the WS actually worthwhile but IT WAS LITERALLY SUNG IN THE WS BEFORE SO WHAT'S THE POINT???? If they actually changed it to 442 then I might've accepted it.
\-344 is irrelevant
\-502, along with 56, are the only worthwhile things in the entirety of this WS.
1/10. Painfully tedious, awful lineup, everything I DON'T want in a WS.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,I want to know the stance of the ministers who are thinking of doing the ivf because it's hard for them to have a child 🤔,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Which verse did they use to condemn IVF?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"I'll be attending the midweek anytime now, I can't help but laugh at the ridiculous lesson this week. I hope I can control my laughter while on WS
To those who already attended, how many minutes / hours will it be (approx.?)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"It would be a lot better if they will just discuss entrepreneurship, how to economize on household spendings and still live a happy fruitful life, how to get joyful despite the daily grind of commute and dealing with nosy coworkers and one devil of a boss. I'm sure there's a bible verse there somewhere they can build these topics on. And please include ""how to hone one's sense of humor while delivering an extremely boring sermon"" in the BEM curriculum. Yown lang pow, mga mehel na kapateyd 😁",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Emphasis on couples should be between MAN AND WOMAN (homophobic lesson this one, too)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,the iglesia ni cristo life cycle,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Did they mention contraceptives?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"The lessons are either extremely boring or absolutely repulsive, no in between.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,What is the lesson??,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,I don't think INC knows that we're not in 1913,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Being against the Calendar method is a little odd tbh. The rest doesn't surprise me, old ""Christian"" men not understanding women.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,LOL don't let them know that many anti-RH Catholic priests recommend the same method too haha they'll retreat their guns faster than they can say AMAAAAAA =P,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Ikr calendar planning is one of the best options for family planning and they forbade it, yet they use a Bible Verse as an excuse even if it's out of context.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,I feel you. Can’t wait to get the fuck outta this cult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"As a scientist, I hated this lesson. 🤦 Shouldn't have attended the WS. The minionster even claimed 'we are not experts on this but we are saying these'. Then SHUT UP. Stop controlling other people's lives!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"This is actually a creepy post. You want to redpill inc members? Print the above out. Place it on a clipboard, highlight some good points. When your owe family comes over, ask them if this was the theme of the lesson and have them read it over. This would be an awesome intervention tool.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,sounds like this will be painful. will need to find some way to not listen to this one.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"And once again as usual the INC ministry never spoke of Jesus Christ’s gospel or what would Jesus do in the situations they preach of. The church is named “church of Christ”, and they never mentioned Jesus Christ in their preaching. TRULY the church should change the name to Church of Manalo. This would truly be more suitable for their teachings, and they wouldn’t be called a CULT anymore.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Sharing again the story of my friend who was raped by a head deacon
https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/o8wj4o/my_friend_was_raped_by_the_head_deacon/",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Ministers are considered as rapists, they'll groom their partners to be too submissive to even reject sex. Of course they'll protect rapists.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,LMAO ex inc here. pinagmamalaki pa ng parents ko na pro RH ang inc dati kasi hindi nga naman dapat magpakarami kung hindi naman kaya ng parents financially lol tapos ngayon sin na pala mag calendar planning wtf???,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Anti IVF stance may play as inconsequential in the Philippines but in the west that can turn an OWE into an exinc,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,I hope that redpills the member and makes them wake up from the brainwashing.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Yeah, my relatives who are very devoted to church and are aware of my use of assisted reproductive technology + termination of a pregnancy for medical reasons were annoyed by this lesson. Plus, I hear a lot of their church friends in the medical field were not pleased also.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Thanks for the detailed insights OP 😁,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Friends of my aunt, who are already married but in the stage where they're trying to have kids but for some reason cannot, are not convinced by the reasoning of the church. I kind of want to tell them to just do it and not tell anyone lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"There was this kid in front of me who just hunched his back and slept, he was even snoring. No one woke him up.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Looks like we finally have an outlier after all these ~~months~~ years of repetitions...,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"""502 a lifeless lecture hymn"" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
I'm a choir and I agree. Choir me getting roasted a bit.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,I wonder the verse about unbelievers will certainly fall within the deadly themes. (esp if it is the Lamsa version),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,For real. Afraid of disobeying the rules cause they'll punish my parents.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"It's long in your locale too?? I had thoughts that ""if we're not going to listen to mostly things from the Bible, I'm going home."" They mostly talked about how parents produce children and showed off how much they know about technology.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,They did not use any verse. They simply said the usage of IVF involves murder and is thus against God and INC.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"People saying INC didn't use any Bible verse at all are a bit misinformed. They blanketed it with surrogacy using Psalms 139:13 and another similar verse involving ""getting formed in the womb"".
Also, that murder thing about how IVF practitioners supposedly discard embryos on a regular basis.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,45 mins to 1 hour for the lesson only,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Ahh yes, I forgot to mention it. It was about marriage should only be between a man and a woman 😌. This lesson was so triggering.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Difference is, it’s a cycle of abuse for a lot of trapped members. For the OWEs, their life cycle revolves around the manalos.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,I’m sure they did. They mentioned that condoms and pills were fine but should not be permanent because god commanded to populate the earth 🤣,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,In short: INC is against abortion rights and something about contraception and how women are not allowed to be in control over their own body. Definitely a lesson that stands out from the others but its not that of a surprise. They’re basically going for some conservative christian ideology bullshit.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Seggs gud. Turkey baster of sperm bad.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Same it bugs me too,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"That's actually the first reason why I started to question everything in my teens, the freaking misogyny",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Me too,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,This lesson is what happens when dumb people try to come up with their own explanations and insists that it's true.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,They are not experts on the Bible too.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Good luck...consider it a try not to cringe challenge.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Grow your hair long and get air pods.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"I feel so sorry for all the victims. This cult is sexist, most of the people are misogynistic and homophobic, and the doctrine and a lot of the teachings are just overall disgusting. Today’s lesson just proves all these and that they’re enablers.
They even said not to deprive your spouses with sexual intercourse, and that if one disagrees, it’s a sin and you should both pray LMAO. “Wives should submit to their husbands”. Damn, rape happens too even if they’re MARRIED.
A 👏 person 👏 should 👏 never 👏 be 👏 forced 👏 to 👏 have 👏 sexual 👏 intercourse 👏.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Don't go down their level,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Dude, no. One more post like this, even if it's ""to show that Eduardo's family is not divine"", **and you will be banned from this subreddit.**",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Me too.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Same as mine. Like PPV levels lol 1 hour of sermon 😓,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Apparently what I got from them is that unused semen or discarded eggs are considered as murder. I masturbate a lot, I guess I murdered billions already.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,">usage of IVF involves murder
And which Tiktok video did they get this from? Holy mother of Zeus...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Murder? How? This is separate from abortion, right?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Good job then on knitting together various deformities and congenital diseases into a lot of them. Not to mention all those fatalities, both mothers and children, and various complications throughout pregnancy.
The Psalms is one of the most delusional book(s) in the bible.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"that’s true. on our part, it’s not enough to just recognize this cycle but it’s also our task to finally break it",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Same,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Typical INC making explanations and finding a verse that supposedly 'explains' it so since it is in the bible, then it should be 'true'. INCult logic 101. I've noticed how few the verses were in this lesson, and many were out of context and even cut in half. Lmao",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Agree. They are experts on information control. Lmao 🤪,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,My son did that when we were still members. It worked for him and I knew several of his friends did the same.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Yup your so true!!! My post is so unchristian like, but making my statement truly opens up INC members eyes to show that Eduardo’s family are human (not divine) like the rest of us.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"What the post is about?
I can still view the deleted comment via Removeddit, reveddit, undelete, ceddit",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"During IVF, you normally induce a female so that multiple egg cells mature. Each eggs are fertilised by sperm cells and normally, at the blastocyst stage (60-100 cells), the zygote is implanted into the uterus. From what our locale minister said, you can only choose one blastocyst to implant while the others are left to die. First, the survival of a blastocyst is very low, so culturing lots of them is practical. The lab also assesses the quality of the blastocysts and maybe do some genetic tests to see if the embryo will have any problems. That’s why they’re wrong. A blastocyst is not a living person lol.
source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/blastocyst
https://www.cityfertility.com.au/fertility-services/ivf-treatment/blastocyst-stage-extended-culture/",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,Well EVM did make it a point to excommunicate his mother and sibling to prove that theyre just normal members like everyone else lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"This. Sperm and egg cells have no sentience. When does sentience even happen? 3rd trimester apparently, and by then the law says abortion isn't allowed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 07 - Jun 09, 2022)",v6wdhi,2022-06-07,"Yes!!! There’s always a time limit when you can abort. Plus, sometimes it’s also dangerous for pregnant women when they get complications And coming from their logic, prenatal tests aren’t allowed either because there’s a really really low risk of miscarriage.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v6wdhi/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_07_jun_09/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"This is not about the weekend lesson, but the midweek lesson.
During Wednesday's service, I specifically remember the minister criticizing those who immigrated to other countries for marriage. Makes me think they are beginning to realize that most of us who convert for marriage don't really buy the INC nonsense and eventually cause problems.
I wouldn't be surprised if the church eventually forbids this practice altogether. Of course, it dooms many INC women to a life of being alone and unable to help their families, but I doubt the INC leadership cares much about that.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"For the past few years I’ve been questioning the church’s teachings and thinking about leaving, but I always just brush it off because I’m just so used to being programmed to not question anything or anyone because I should just blindly follow because that shows I have “faith”.
But after these few lessons, I’m seriously thinking about leaving. Especially after the part where they said that its still a sin to abort a fetus that was a result of rape and that its forbidden for INC members.
I was molested by a minister at the age of 15. I’ve always kept it to myself for all of these years because I already know what everyone would say. “What were you wearing?” “Oh no but he’s such a great guy and would never do something like that” “It was probably your fault for what happened” “I think that you’re lying” And then I would be the one to be punished instead of him. If he ended up raping me and getting me pregnant, would the church have told me that the child was a blessing from something traumatic? Or would they tell me to get rid of it for the sake of saving face since it was a minister who committed the crime? This question has seriously made me question what I truly believe in.
I have been thinking about leaving, but I’m scared. Like really scared. This has been my whole life, and it’s all that I know. I’m scared of the backlash that I’d receive from people who I thought loved me. Backlash from my parents, from friends, from loved ones, all people who I met throughout my life in the church. My boyfriend and I are both in the church, but are both considering leaving. He is more set on leaving definitely, but I just don’t know how to overcome my fears. I don’t know what to do. Even though this church has caused me so much religious trauma and so much fear, I’m still emotionally attached to it somehow. Is anyone else in the same boat as me?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"My locale minister couldn’t stop saying the word “sex” 🤣🤣🤣 Anyways, weird lesson was focused on:
1) Family Planning
2) Abstaining from sex with your husband/wife is a sin
3) Contraceptions should be temporary
4) IVF is a sin
5) Abortion is murder and murderers will go to hell
6) The life of the child is not the parent’s nor does it belong to the child itself. It only belongs to god, so why abort? 🤡
7) If the life of the child you’re bearing isn’t yours, so why abstain from sex at all? Your body also belongs to god!
8) Having extramarital sex is likened to being a murderer and a thief — great sin!!
9) Homosexuality bad because can’t make babies
That’s all I can remember",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,Bro they literally be talking about sex in front of children man its fucked up. 🤮,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,iglesia ni manalo would rather teach sex ed than preach the gospel of Jesus. mmmk,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"I don't know, marrying a foreigner is good for the offerings 🤣",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Whatever they say, I still will not be able to fathom and accept that calendar method is forbidden by God. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Another homophobic topic again? Ugh, when they will stop?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Same shit as mid-week, slept through it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"I am kina surprised they didn't say ""We are having a 10 minute interval, so husbands and wives can go and have sex. This will be a new feature of every worship service. Be sure to bring tissues.""!!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"* [Psalm 100:3](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Psalm%20100:3)
* [Genesis 2:7, 21-22](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2%3A7%2C+21-22&version=NKJV)
* [Genesis 1:28](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Genesis%201:28) (*only up to “subdue it”*)
* [Genesis 4:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Genesis%204:1)
* [Genesis 2:24](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Genesis%202:24)
* [1 Corinthians 7:3-5](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+7%3A3-5&version=NKJV)
* [Psalm 139:13-16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+139%3A13-16&version=NKJV)
* [Exodus 20:13](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Exodus%2020:13)
* [Revelation 21:8](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Revelation%2021:8)
* [Colossians 3:1-4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians%203&version=NKJV)
* [1 Corinthians 6:9-11](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+6%3A9-11&version=NKJV)
* [Revelation 21:1-4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+21%3A1-4&version=NKJV)
Sermon continued the topic of the creation of life. Per INC, humans don’t create life, but God does, so we hear more anti-abortion rhetoric. Again, I don’t know how this would fall under the Deadly Themes.
**Hymns**
Instead of all seven hymns, I’ll just list two that stick out like a sore thumb:
* 466 = “Rejoice in Your Suffering”
* 271 = “Let’s Remain in the Church, and Wait for Our Lord Christ”
Need I say more?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,I feel so bad earlier for the highschool students I used to be seated earlier. They maybe felt shy and awkward while hearing the worship service. I would feel the same thing too since sex topic is so taboo in Philippines.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"If last weeks lesson was about not using external resources to conceive a child and this lesson is about producing children for God, what’s the middle ground for couples who cannot conceive? This church and its lessons just continue to contradict itself. Currently sitting in service trying not to lose my mind over this bullshit",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Another outlier lesson amazing!
Minister this WS talked about:
- God
- Bible Stories
- Abortion is bad
- Lake of Fire
- Intensive renewal of life
- Salvation
- The Administration
- Eduard V. Manalo
- Abstaining from sex is bad
Talks about God at first then Adam and Eve.
Then once again forbids the Calendar Method for no reason other than it's a sin.
They then said talk about how Abortion is murder again (like they never [murdered](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AvuKS1Xi3iM) [anyone](https://politicsandchurch.wordpress.com/2011/04/08/some-iglesia-ni-cristo-members-are-murderers-and-hurts-other-people/) before) and how it can turn you into God's personal barbeque inside his holy eternal grill. Being raped is not an excuse apparently.
Reads a verse which included being gay is bad but does not talk about it in detail.
Minister said that ""INC doesn't impose their beliefs on other people"" when they have their own opinion but then claims that what they believe is the real truth...what he just did is called imposing his beliefs.
The minister then ends the lesson by talking about the Administration and his significant other, Edwardo V. Manalo.
Now let's all rise and pray for Eduardo once again cause he's totally above us all.
""Above us all, please bless Brother Eduardo V. Manalo""
- WS tallied: 8
- PPVs: 1
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 2
- Offerings - 2
- Propagation - 5
- Detractors - 2
- The Admin - 4
- Others religions are wrong - 5
Others:
- God - 2
- Felix Y. Manalo - 6
- Eduardo V. Manalo - 1
- Jesus Christ - 1
- Bible story - 2
- Good values - 2
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 2
- Lake of Fire - 3
- Salvation - 3
- Only INC will be saved - 2
- World is terrible - 3
- Life is hard - 2
- Doomsday - 2
- Attend church activities - 1
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time- 2
- July 27 is WW1 - 2
- Intensive renewal of life - 2
- Disregard yourselves - 1
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 1
- Being Persecuted- 1
- INC's ""victories""- 2
- INC is growing- 1
- Other religions are failing - 2
- Watch INC propaganda - 1
- Be wise but stay blind - 1
- Fight for your faith - 1
- Family - 1
- Disregard Science - 1
- Abortion is bad - 2
- Obedience is everything - 1
- Pray for everything - 1
- Abstaining from sex is bad - 2
Edit: Ahh...I finally understood what they meant by ""Calendar Method is bad"".",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Lesson started about how people these days around us are “ungodly”… they ought to look in a mirror sometime with all their hypocrisy and way of handling things.
Oh hey, it says something about how God told (adam and eve?) some couple to multiply.. I see where this is going and there are children present. Not good. Whatever happened to keeping things PG? And now the minister keeps saying sex and descriptively describing processes…
this is like that weird uncle/relative at dinner who is unhinged and has no filter, except there’s no one to tell them off and take their medication/eat their food.
I thought this lesson was gonna be different from other locales and be about how to be a good person while surrounded by bad people, but apparently now it’s just sex. I guess it’s a good refresher for health class, but this is not the place or time I would want to be hearing about this.
this is either like an unhinged unfiltered relative or something, no presence of mind for those present, no courtesy of holding back and I guess that’s brave, but not entirely respectable.
There is a thin line between bravery and stupidity, especially in this cult.
Now they’re talking about abstaining from sex is bad or something, apparently because satan can tempt or something. I kind of get what they’re saying, but why in the way they do?
It’s somehow both funny and cringy how the minister keeps loudly and seriously emphasizing the word “sex”..
Zoned out for the rest but I think they finally talked normally again (boring repetitive and the usual)
3/10? Entertaining but terrible how the minister kept talking about sex and processes and stuff descriptively and loudly, emphasizing the word sex or any word that has sex in it..
Oddly I want more of these controversial lessons so people will wake up and question what they’re hearing. Before recently, I don’t remember lessons like these.
I wonder why they say the phrase “beloved brethren” so much..",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Sounds like they doubled down on the BS. Thankful for this thread, I can decide when to go for WS, which is when the lesson has a tolerable amount of BS. So far, I've managed to avoid about 95% of these WSes since I used this method.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,I physically hurt myself cringing listening to this lesson,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,Hi everyone! What is the weekend lesson?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"All I could think this lesson was that surely my parents would be at least doubting the church's words by now
I, their first born child was conceived and born months before their wedding which means they committed the ""sin"" the church villified all those years ago",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,Thanks!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Didn't really listen but what I will say is that the lesson is really short! I really like that. The lineup is also pretty worthwhile. 316 hasn't been sung in FOUR YEARS, 466 is one of my favorites, and 33 has been pretty rare recently. 6/10. 316 and 466 were really the best parts.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"It was so funny, because I was seating just opposite (on my left side) my husband when they mentioned that husband and wife should not abstain for too long lol we were not having seggs for 3 months already ahaha well I guess see you all in hell 🔥🔥🔥
But seriously, last week's lessons have so many loopholes and very questionable. My eyebrows kept raising and I was smirking under the mask as it was so ridiculous.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,Pilit nagpapaka relevant ang INcult kaya kung anu-anong issue na lang texto sa pagsamba. Wala na nga halos maakay kasi walang kwenta yang kulto na yan.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"I think INC is realizing it now that most non-members who joined because of marriage figured it out that the converts don't stay for the long haul. From my former locale alone, all of them left, leaving behind their born-inside-INC spouses in the church which manifest to more problems for the couples and their children.
As a former convert, I knew that I wasn't going to stay but as usual with most couple in our situation, it took longer to get out.
But I think the other dilemma is the green card marriage. I don't know of many, but I've seen it happened where the wife (it's mostly the women who married an American citizen) to only stay in the marriage of the required 2 years (as required by the US immigration to obtain a green card). Of course they don't tell their spouses that but once they have that green card, it's their ticket to freedom. It's harsh and cold but unfortunately it happened more often than not. And I think it's probably even tougher if one spouse is INC and the newly immigrant spouse would willingly enter INC to keep the status quo.
Overall, I agree that converts don't stay for long, no matter if they're American citizens or here via immigration. INC memberships are one of the toughest in life to deal with. I honestly don't know how any one who converted can stay for life without losing their marbles.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Odd, cause I've seen so many INC members from the West going back to the Philippines to find a spouse.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Nah, this is the weekend service post. ""Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"I am saddened to hear of your experience with the pervert minister. It probably happens more often than most members know or care to accept.
It's OK to be scared of leaving. That's the brainwashing done to you over many years. You are not alone. It happens to many ex-members, myself included. It takes time to completely be free of it. INC uses scare tactics like the lake of fire to keep members like you trapped. You just need to persuade yourself that religion is a scam to control people and make money. Do your research. You will discover that the Bible is no more than a book of legends and folklore like those of many other cultures. It belongs on the same shelf with LOTR.
I am in no position to give you any therapeutic advise. You may need a professional. All I can tell you from experience is that once you are out, living without fear and on your own terms is like nothing else in this world.
There is no afterlife, no holy city, no lake of fire.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"If you can get therapy or something, please do. With that, there's also talking to your bf about those fears, he can possibly do more to help. The INC uses control tactics to keep members from leaving, including instilling fear and dissociation from those who leave. Try to build outside support as well from classmates/coworkers/friends outside the INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
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"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Im secretly laughing at no. 2. On our wed/thur WS hindi ko maipaliwanag, naiinis ako na natatawa, i dont know... e kung di ko trip makipagsex sa misis ko does that mean na makasalanan na ako? Hehe INCult talaga",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,What's their stance on pregnancy due to rape (by an INC)?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,Wtf especially 2 and 7?? Can't even... 🤢🤢,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Bet, same people that'd accuse the LGBTQ+ community of doing the same",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"I thought I was done with this shit in school. Why is the administration teaching us - and little children! - about sex ed? Why did you sign off on this lesson, EVM? What hard drugs are you on now????? I don't understand these people.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,I guess the INC Cult want their ministry to sound educated on sex reproduction rather than educated in Jesus Christ’s Gospel.😜,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,LMAO,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,Bruh I have some relatives who married foreigners who converted to INC.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Makes sense. It is Pride Month, after all. This is the time when the anti-LGBT conservatives who like to talk start spouting nonsense",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Yep, they often repeat it several times.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Revelation 21:8, one of the favourite verses. As I mentioned in my post below (lake of fire).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Per last week's lesson, just pray for a child and God will give you his answer. Somehow.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,Family Planning and the body of one spouse belongs not to him/her but to the other and God.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,was the lesson related to the previous one?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,If this cult realises that it's the 21st Century and things have progressed and relax the rules around relationships and attendance it would be more palatable. But I know they won't change and it will end up like other cults dead in the water.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"I live in the Midwest US. And in my locale, most of the converts do end up staying till death. Well, except for the few that end up divorcing. Of course, in most cases its basically older American men (55-60 years old plus) marrying Filipina women who are 35-45 years old. The men stay until they die, which means there are quite a few widows. And most of them are like me, don't take an office, don't participate in many of the activities, etc...
I do wonder if some of them, when they know they are going to die soon, think at least they won't have to listen to Manalo's rambling anymore. Sweet release of death so to speak. lol
In truth, the only way most of us can stay in the church is if we ignore most of the rules as well as most of what they say. For me, I occasionally catch something they say, but most of the time, my mind is on a hundred different things. Basically, its two hours a week, and if my wife wants to take an office, she is onn her own.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,I guess it is different in different regions. I haven't ever seen that in my area.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,SAMEEE! Sex should be mutual yes pero dapat naiintindihan din nila na sometimes di mo lang feel or may problema ka sa health na wala talagang sex drive. Ung rason nila na dapat makipag sex sa asawa para daw di matukso ni satanas 🤡 and mag cheat. Self control daw ung sex sa asawa. Why justify cheating kasi di pumayag ung asawa na makipag-sex? Eto pa. They justified it kasi may mga tao daw na gusto talaga at di mapigilan. That is not a reason to cheat. Shame on you INC.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,Pwede naman daw magcondom sabi nung midweek. Yung gusto kasi nila maraming handog na bat apara maraming pera 🤑🤑🤑🤑,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"From the mid week, they already said that if you get pregnant from getting raped, you still shouldn’t abort the child. They emphasised that we don’t impose our beliefs on others but if it happens to an INC member, they shouldn’t abort the child because apparently the child is a blessing. Imagine bearing a child from trauma then say it’s a blessing.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,Yep. I wanted to walk out of the service so bad because of it 🤡,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"EVM's intention is to take away children's innocence, what a nasty old man he could have saved these lessons for Buklod/Older kadiwa meeting tf!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"It's more like sex disinformation, not education",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Exactly because it’s Pride Month. Similar to abortion in which the US Supreme Court in the early month of May rumored to overturn Roe versus Wade and allow the states 1931 abortion ban. So Filipino INCULT jumped on the bandwagon. They poured vile disgusting opinions on controlling women’s bodies.
I honestly don’t know why since INCULT is such an unknown entity and their voice can only be heard from their own members. But one thing this will do is to annoy and hopefully wake up their members.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"More reasons why we should rest and sleep inside the church, Idc about the gaze of the choir or the ministers anymore.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"It won't be changing. Under EVM the rules have gotten much more strict and worship service revolves mainly around these topics.
* The executive minister
* The administration
* Attendance
* The messenger of God in these last days
* July 27 1914, world war 1, ends of the earth
* Intensive propagation
* Worldwide / expansion / congregations worldwide, etc
* Intensive obedience
* Offerings, give more, more and more
* Many topics that are negative (sinful)
* Rebelling against the administration = Expelled
* Relationships outside the faith = Expelled
* Thrown into the lake of fire
* Ignore everything (negative) on social media
* Acts 20:28 Lamsa translation",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,Pwede nga daw eh pero dapat daw temporary lang 🙄 Masyado silang interesado sa sex life ng ibang tao. SMH.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,"Hold up, you only have Executive Minister and The Administration in there one time... it should be appended to every one of the other topics such as:
* Attendance, is a command of God through the Administration
* Intensive Propagation will make the Executive Minister and the Church Administration happy
* July 27, 1914 is when WW1 started and the Administration of the Lord began
* Offerings are a command of God so that the Administration can take care of you
* Social media is evil, but not the Administration and certainly not EVM
:-D",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 10 - Jun 13, 2022)",v98eji,2022-06-10,sa susunod bibigyan lahat ng viagra mga kalalakihan,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/v98eji/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_10_jun_13/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"Today in our locale the minister told us that if we have illnesses, we shouldn’t seek a professional doctor BUT pray to God instead, then call a deacon/deaconess for anointing. Trust what ^God^ will do for you.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,Tinatamad ako sumamba hehe,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"I attended in another locale today. Ended up zoning out because the guy's English (it was an English service) was barely understandable, but generally beginning was about how prayer is the solution to our problems.
What bothered me was the panata/devotional prayer in the end, where they made us kneel. It was my first time encountering such, and it felt so weird. I hated every moment of it lol.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"Highlight is pray for everything.
Caveat: God will not hear or answer the prayer of doubting member. So pray with conviction in order to be heard.
Actual practice: Every prayer includes the same ""Take care of EVM and his family"". -Meaning they dont believe God hears the initial prayers and so they repeat the same in case their God become deaf or not paying attention the first time.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,Lesson is about the importance of prayers.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,I hate the minister preaching. He looked smug. He was preaching Abraham that prayed to God for 15 years so he can have children until he was a 100 years old. Remember the disagreement from them to surrogacy? Hypocrites.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"Outlier lesson again for the third time. I'm starting to think that INC's noticing our little project here and they're avoiding the deadly themes in their lessons now.
Have they finally changed the way they teach? Only time will tell...
Lesson was about:
- Pray for absolutely everything!
- World is terrible
- Life is (naturally) hard
- God
- Bible story
- Family Hour
- INC is growing
One of the things that I don't like about this lesson is how they said through a bible verse that we were born to suffer. This gives the INC admin all the justification they need to abuse their followers and work them to death for free.
They keep preaching all the bad things happening in the world while they themselves are ones adding to those miseries by abusing their power. The world is not as bad as INC says but those Manalo believers are too blind and stupid to see that.
Tally sheet:
- WS tallied: 9
- PPVs: 1
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 2
- Offerings - 2
- Propagation - 5
- Detractors - 2
- The Admin - 4
- Others religions are wrong - 5
Others:
- God - 3
- Felix Y. Manalo - 6
- Eduardo V. Manalo - 1
- Jesus Christ - 1
- Bible story - 3
- Good values - 2
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 2
- Lake of Fire - 3
- Salvation - 3
- Only INC will be saved - 2
- World is terrible - 4
- Life is hard - 3
- Doomsday - 2
- Attend church activities - 1
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time- 2
- July 27 is WW1 - 2
- Intensive renewal of life - 2
- Disregard yourselves - 1
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 1
- Being Persecuted- 1
- INC's ""victories""- 2
- INC is growing- 2
- Other religions are failing - 2
- Watch INC propaganda - 1
- Be wise but stay blind - 1
- Fight for your faith - 1
- Family - 1
- Science is bad - 1
- Abortion is bad - 2
- Obedience is everything - 1
- Pray for everything - 2
- Family Hour - 1
Edit: correction",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"Had a minister who cut the shit today and just told the lesson straight. No fluff, no bullshit, short as hell. And it works, this is the closest we got to a feel good lesson.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"As I was coming home from work, my OWE family was leaving for their midweek brainwashing session.
I had this feeling of inner happiness that I no longer have to go. I AM FREE FROM THIS CULT!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"Why are they still praying for eduardo manalo. With the amount of money he stole from the members, he won't go hungry, he has money for hospitalization just in case he gets sick, and no one will try to take his life because he's a lot of bodyguards.
The truth is, even eduardo manalo didn't believe in God and he was just showing off what he was doing. He knows INCult is a business that he will leave to his family when he dies soon. if he believes in God and is afraid, he will not scoff at his members.
Deep inside his heart, he knew there were many mistakes in the doctrine of his cult but he just stood by it because he had no choice. The mid-week lesson is meh! no substance. recycled. cultish.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"Where was God when members started dying of COVID?
Where was God when we were tormented by the Iglesia Ni Cristo and their lackeys?
There is no solace or God in this church. There is no comfort or happiness to be found here.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"My takeaway from this is how ministers can be terribly inconsistent when it comes to matters not explicitly referenced in the Fundamentals. What's worse is that the admin can easily cite plausible deniability if they get called out on matters like this.
In my experience I've never actually encountered a minister say ""we shouldn't look to doctors"", but rather an admixture of *prayer, anointing of oil, and medical attention.*",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"That’s a very dangerous sentiment based on ignorance. However, that in my 20 years inside and left in 2018, that not all ministers felt the same way. Sure they will say to always pray first but they encouraged to seek out professional medical help (at least that’s been my experience).
I never gave credence to all the “olive oil on the forehead bull shit.” Though I love olive oil for cooking and salad, but my husband and I together with our children just let those INC stupid practices go in one ear to leave the other ear.
I think that particular minister had his own agenda or plainly speaking, he’s just plain ignorant and stupid and spouting medical advice he had no business of. Perhaps he was trying to kiss someone’s ass inside the administration or EVM himself. Who knows, it’s plain ignorant and I’m guessing most members who were listening were laughing at him. Ignore the idiot!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"More like trust what Eduardo’s Cult will do…..as you give your thanksgiving money to his CULT, and you’ll purchase your FALSE healing to his business Administration.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,Not sure they can cure a ruptured appendix with oil !!!!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,">What bothered me was the panata/devotional prayer in the end, where they made us kneel
Oh you mean like they do in Catholic churches when the priest leads the prayer? Seems maybe INC is changing the game some to throw off everyone saying they're a cult. Which Catholisism has been around longer than INC, so makes sense they would pull pages from that organized worship practice.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"All WS lessons in a nutshell:
1. Importance of prayers
2. Importance of WS
3. Importance of offers
4. Felix Manalo the last messenger
5. Why INC is the only right religion
6. Any lessons against LGBTQ
7. Why you should never date someone outside INC
8. Lesson against social media
Add more, I may have forgot others. These are the lessons I often hear this past weeks.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"By the comments here, no they still haven't changed. They either do not care anymore or are extremely desperate.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,Why are you saying it’s an outlier when you marked almost all 7 themes at least twice? Looks like it was mostly about Propagation and Other Religions are wrong.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,Please post all Tagalog posts in the Daily Filipino Discussion Thread moving forward. This way you will not be required to provide translation. Thanks.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"What I find funny about OWEs is that, if a non-member dies from COVID-19 they would say, “hindi kasi sila kaanib sa Iglesia” but if a member dies they will go, “kinuha na ng Diyos ng maaga, atleast makakapunta siya sa bayang banal”
Heard this from my lola, Hypocrisy at firsthand.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,A few ritual changes will never change the fact that INC worships EVM's ass more than Jesus. It will never change the fact that this is a cult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,Certain locales have been asking their constituents to kneel in prayers for quite some time now. It just depends on the RM.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,Also always submit to the administration.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"So, there is a mention of LGBTQ again? I can't wait to see the downfall of this cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"And Felix Y. Manalo, our Jesus replacement is still taking the lead.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"The minister during this WS did not mention any of the deadly themes.
The tally sheet doesn't represent just one lesson. As you can see above, it shows how many WS I tallied.
A numbers count how many times that certain topic has been preached and covered by each minister in each WS.
(Edit:) Let's just say it's the total amount of times they covered the topics mentioned there throughout the 9 WS I attended.
P.S.
I think by saying tally sheet for today, I may have mislead some readers. My apologies, let me correct that.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"From smaller disputes like ministers sexually assaulting minors to the highest council misusing funds for vanity projects like the Philippine Arena, and then having the gall to demand more money.
There are countless examples on this subreddit. You need only find them.
Enjoy your stay",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"opps, sorry. translation provided.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,"This is true, hehe. If something bad happens to a member or non-member, they will claim that God has cursed them because they are not members, or if they are members, that God has cursed them because they are not active, not providing offerings, and not doing their role inside the church.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,Hahahah! Pag di member sa dagat dagatang apoy sabi ng ministro. Yan lagi naririnig ko sa bible studies.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 14 - Jun 16, 2022)",vc451y,2022-06-14,So some locales kneel while others stand.... because unity.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vc451y/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_14_jun_16/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"Had the quickest sermon of the year, a whopping 20 minutes.
To summarize the lessson for this weekend:
- Family is really important.
- A man should love his wife, like how he loves himself; a woman should be submissive to her husband, I forgot the other part but it was really kinda sexist(??)
- Parents should always know their children's friends, know if their influencing them. Have more friends who are fellow incs.
I don't know about the rest, I was kinda sleepy",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"Minister preached and reminded us of the following:
- Family
- Good values (the same thing they preached about marrying out of love, not out for convenience)
- Pray for everything
- God
- Obedience is everything
- Offerings
- Propagation
- The Admin
- Others religions are wrong
- Salvation
- World is terrible
- Intensive renewal of life
- Attend WS
- Family Hour
- Participate in church activities
Dozed off at some of the parts on the first lesson and the minister's volume was very weak at some parts. Tried my best to get what they really mean.
100% woke up to the minister reminding the parents to brainwash their children even more. To tell their poor kids to offer, propagate, attend WS, submit to the church admin and other usual exploititive BS.
Definitely NOT going to have my own family while in INC.
Tally sheet:
- WS tallied: 10
- PPVs: 1
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 2
- Offerings - 3
- Propagation - 6
- Detractors - 2
- The Admin - 5
- Others religions are wrong - 6
Others:
- God - 4
- Felix Y. Manalo - 6
- Eduardo V. Manalo - 1
- Jesus Christ - 1
- Bible story - 3
- Good values - 3
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 2
- Lake of Fire - 3
- Salvation - 4
- Only INC will be saved - 2
- World is terrible - 5
- Life is hard - 3
- Doomsday - 2
- Attend church activities - 1
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time- 2
- July 27 is WW1 - 2
- Intensive renewal of life - 3
- Disregard yourselves - 1
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 2
- Being Persecuted- 1
- INC's ""victories""- 2
- INC is growing- 2
- Other religions are failing - 2
- Watch INC propaganda - 1
- Be wise but stay blind - 1
- Fight for your faith - 1
- Family - 2
- Disregard science - 1
- Abortion is bad - 2
- Obedience is everything - 2
- Pray for everything - 3
- Family Hour - 2
- Participate in church activities - 1
P.S.
Thanksgiving is nearing again unfortunately, better brace yourselves for their upcoming lessons about offerings and Macedonia shoutouts. Just giving you all an early warning.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"I hate the part where the minister told us that the family’s misfortune is caused by the children so the parents should watch out if their children are doing non-Christian things like drinking, being in a relationship with sanlibutans, or not attending worship services and bible lessons.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"* Topic: Entrance into the Married Life
* Deadly Themes: Offerings & The Administration were mentioned
* [Proverbs 16:3](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Proverbs%2016:3)
* [Proverbs 19:14](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Proverbs%2019:14)
* [2 Corinthians 6:14](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Corinthians%206:14)
* [Hebrews 13:4](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Hebrews%2013:4)
* [Ephesians 5:28, 21-22](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+5%3A28%2C+21-22&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 26:41](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%2026:41)
* [1 Timothy 5:8](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1%20Timothy%205:8)
* [John 6:27](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/John%206:27)
* [Matthew 19:17](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%2019:17)
* [Deuteronomy 6:6-7](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+6%3A6-7&version=NKJV)
* [Psalm 128:1-4](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ps+128%3A1-4&version=NKJV)
**Other Observations**
* Preacher coerces parents into coercing their children into accepting offices in the INC. And this isn’t a cult?
* Preacher condemns marriage of convenience, but how much of the INC is composed by that?
* In line with the Deadly Themes mentioned, does INC really mean what it says about idolatry and greed?
* “Hymns” today *reeked* of obedience/submission (seemingly even worse than usual).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"I don't know why propagation and abundance to offering were even included in this lesson. Well-played.
Minister said families should make sure that offerings to the Lord is always a first when budgeting. Lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"Uh I don’t even know the real topic of the worshit service, at first the minister is talking about husband-wife relationship and marriage, you know the usual lOVe YoUr wIFe/sUbMit tO yOUr HuSbAnD, don’t marry unbeliever etc then next thing you know the minister changed his tone to angry while speaking about thanksgiving offering. He dragged that thanksgiving offering subject all the way to the end of the lesson. Not sure if that was intended or the minister was reading the wrong cheat sheet. 🤷♀️",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,It was a one-hour and fifteen-minute lesson here in our locale. The resident minister is known for his extended sermons.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"I cried during the sermon this week.
I don't believe that much in love; that stems from my parents that lost the spark, no more love, sleeping in separate rooms, not even wearing their wedding bands.
Still stayed because its the Lords binding.
I know its their lives, but I cant help but feel sad for them, they regret their marriage so much.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"So service is 100% back to physical attendance?
COVID-19 is still out there...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"Knowing my luck, it won't be the same length.
In fact I'll probably get a minister who loves to blab.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"Mine was the standard 30-35 mins and it sure felt long and it was definitely boring.
Edit: correction again",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,Thank goodness for quick lessons.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"CWS service here is now back to F2F. Lessons was about Prophet Jeremiah. This would have been a decent bible story had the teacher not ask who the Last Messenger is.
Hearing the kids answer Felix Y. Manalo now disturbs me not like before.
They likened Felix Manalo to prophet Jeremiah and that cringes me.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,Just wanna say I highly appreciate this. Keep on the updating. It really helps,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"That is how they are brainwashing their members. Pag may kamalasang nangyayari sa pamilya e sasabihin may ginagawang kalokohan. Pag nagkasakit o nadisgrasya sasabihin may paglabag o hindi nakikipagkaisa sa gawain at pag-aabuloy, pag di nakapasa sa exam sasabihin kasi lamig o walang tungkulin.
Ganyan ang kultura sa loob ng INcult. Kaya nga wala kang mapapala sa kultong yan kudi pananakot at pangungunsensya. WTF eduardo manalo!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"I could never understand the INCULT’s stance on always blaming others. Whatever happened to personal accountability? Why is it always the fault of others, be it family members, parents, or children?
Don’t they ever asked themselves that if they’re miserable that it’s none other than their fault? They’re miserable because broke…could it be that they spend so many hours in the chapel doing EVMs bidding that they’ve neglected to take care of theirs?
Parents should not blame their children because their children didn’t amount to anything? Could it be that they pushed their children to take up so many offices that they didn’t have time to work on their studies?
It’s so sad that these people don’t know the meaning of personal responsibilities. They created the mess that they placed themselves in. Don’t blame others for them.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,Maybe this is the reason why my mom hates and blames me for everything and even told me that I'm the one who's breaking our family bcos of being in a relationship with a non-member.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,Coercing the young to be busy with church duties is just a band aid solution. We all know that they're faking it and will leave as soon as they can.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"Once they start talking about this (marriage, etc) the lessons are often repeated over and over again. Sounded like the same lesson from last weekend.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,It’s more like offerings to the Manalo administration and his family,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,Yes it is really a shit service because there's a lot of different topics in one go I tried to listen and comprehend but my mind cannot take it because it was all over the place I just think of something else through out the service lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"The brainwashing misinterpretation of the word “unbeliever” of Jesus Christ verses the “non-member” in the iglesia Ni Cristo. Once again the INC ministry has truly translated the word Unbeliever to its own interpretation of non-member of INC. False, Toxic, and brainwashing conditioning preaching at its FINEST!!! Read and examine the scriptures of 1st Corinthians 7:12-16, and you’ll see how the INC has manipulated the words of the Bible to suite their own teaching’s.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,...same 😭 thats why I agree in divorce.. I even heard my father saying he regretted their marriage so much. But my mom is scared of getting expelled :(,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"Exactly. This variant is more transmissible. Please continue to stay safe, mask up, and get vaccinated (if you haven’t already).
FYI I recently had Covid-19 and I’ve been very careful since the pandemic first started. Plus I’ve been vaccinated 4 times and yet still had it. So pleas everyone, be careful. If you have to be at the chapel, mask up, don’t shake peoples hands and no hugging.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,Anytime. Glad my suffering in WS isn't in vain.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"Matagal na kaming minamalas kahit nung brainwashed pa ako, bata pa ako nun, hindi ako masyado nag-iisip sa INC. Halatang halata na takot sila na madiskobre ng mga kabataan kung gaano sila ka-kulto kaya dinidikta na ang mga magulang. Pero buti na lang hindi masyadong strikto parents ko.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"That's why I'm so relieved that I left that cult. Noon, sa lahat ng gagawin ko may takot na kasama eh. Two decades ng buhay ko hindi man lang ako nakapag-enjoy.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"I have also had Covid-19, back in March and possibly a milder illness in May. Just double vaccinated. It is almost impossible to avoid catching it.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"Same to me. Di ko rin na-enjoy ang buhay ko noon dahil sa toxic na kultura ng INCult. But now, ineenjoy ko yung kalayaan at financial freedom ko.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"Per Dr. Fauci, it's not a matter of if but when. Eventually, everyone will get Covid-19. My symptoms were horrible. I am so terrified that I might get it again considering that I work in the ER, ICU. So paranoid now.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,Take care BellaCa!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,"Yep the runny/stuffy nose, sore throat and headache were not great, plus a bit of brain fog once symptoms went away.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 17 - Jun 20, 2022)",vedury,2022-06-17,You too 🌺,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vedury/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_17_jun_20/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 21 - Jun 23, 2022)",vhe0pc,2022-06-21,"Minister preached the following:
- Propagation
- Offerings
- Lake of Fire
- Salvation
- Only INC will be saved
- World is terrible
- Doomsday
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time
- July 27 is WW1
- Attend WS
- Watch INC propaganda
- Obedience is everything
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa is proof enough
So the lesson's basically them giving us horsecrap and telling us that we should spread it all over the world for them. What's it called? That's right, propagation.
They recycled the story again about some Catholic priest converting to INC like that's going to convince more people to join.
And of course he reminded us that thanksgiving is nearing so we need to save up loads of money to give to the Manalo cult corporation.
Minister prayed to bless the amount of our offerings...the amount that I gave was 0.
Anyway, here's the updated tally sheet as of this day.
- WS tallied: 11
- PPVs: 1
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 2
- Offerings - 4
- Propagation - 7
- Detractors - 2
- The Admin - 5
- Others religions are wrong - 6
Others:
- God - 4
- Felix Y. Manalo - 6
- Eduardo V. Manalo - 1
- Jesus Christ - 1
- Bible story - 3
- Good values - 3
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 2
- Lake of Fire - 4
- Salvation - 5
- Only INC will be saved - 3
- World is terrible - 6
- Life is hard - 3
- Doomsday - 3
- Attend church activities - 1
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time- 3
- July 27 is WW1 - 3
- Intensive renewal of life - 3
- Disregard yourselves - 1
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 3
- Being Persecuted- 1
- INC's ""victories""- 2
- INC is growing- 2
- Other religions are failing - 2
- Watch INC propaganda - 2
- Be wise but stay blind - 1
- Fight for your faith - 1
- Family - 2
- Disregard Science - 1
- Abortion is bad - 2
- Obedience is everything - 3
- Pray for everything - 3
- Family Hour - 2
- Participate in church activities - 1
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa is proof enough- 1
Looks like Propagation takes the lead now. It was covered/mentioned in 7 out of 11 Worship Service lessons.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vhe0pc/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_21_jun_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 21 - Jun 23, 2022)",vhe0pc,2022-06-21,"I was zoning out through the whole sermon but here are the things mentioned:
- Don't lose hope
- July 27, 1914 is the registration date of INC
- When we mingle with non-INCs, we need to make sure we mention something about us being an INC - in short, propagation stuff.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vhe0pc/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_21_jun_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 21 - Jun 23, 2022)",vhe0pc,2022-06-21,"Had a 30 minute lecture, morning WS are the quickest. The lecture itself was really confusing, so the only things that I remember are:
- Being an INC member is like a priveledge
- Trust God and never lose hope/faith
- The INC will recieve God's promised holy land
- We should always convert the souls of our family and friends, to save them yada yada",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vhe0pc/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_21_jun_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 21 - Jun 23, 2022)",vhe0pc,2022-06-21,"I would want to do morning WS but I don’t think I could do it every time. But the last time I did it I felt like I had all the time in the world and wanted to go travel somewhere or something, but with evening WS it’s always in the back of my mind, that I have that going on later on, but morning WS could be shorter.
Before going in, I saw one of the head deacons and stared them down in the eye. There was almost no life in those eyes, no happiness, no determination, just like a robot whose only purpose is to recruit, obey, and be creepy. They couldn’t even meet my eyes.
Anyways, here’s some quick points I have for the WS.
- Doom and gloom, like life is terrible and happiness is gone (for them it probably is)
- Acts 20:28, something to do with Zion or something
- Minister kept asking us what church is the “chosen” one in “these last days”
- It’s not enough to listen to the teachings because of course it’s not enough, said it’s not enough to be “just a member”
- They say that you must also show fear of God which I kinda agree with, but then I don’t agree with them saying not to say no, that you *must* give in
- Romans 12:11 or something, only verse so far that I could actually catch other than their bread and butter Acts 20:28.. I wonder what was the reward of the person who found the lamsa translation..
- The minister is telling us that we should ‘enjoy’ worship services, how we should be excited or essentially *need* it. I can’t remember anyone, even any OWEs who look forward to worship services. Special ones maybe, like Thanksgiving or Holy Supper, but never worship services.
- They boast again about them being strong and growing because they say God is on their side.. because they said so.
- They try to reason all the recruiting and increasingly ridiculous goals as “progression”. Previous campaign results have not been good for them, and yet they push doubled number goals. Quantity over quality, and they don’t learn from previous mistakes.
- Of course, they push for sharing faith. Here’s what seems to be mentioned every single WS. Obedience to EVM/church admin, doom and gloom, sharing faith/works of propagation, and there’s probably more that gets mentioned every single time. To the point where you could bet on it every time.
- They say you can share your faith through websites and videos. They had an idea where you could invite the people who were looking to be invited and I was actually almost on board right up until the moment they tripled the goal with a monkey-like smile. The eyes of the minister were darkened by the lighting angle so it looked cursed. When one of my friends decided to check it out, they agreed when I told them it was cult propaganda. They immediately sensed it was off, just the website before even checking the videos.
- Apparently being an introvert is “just a term” to these ministers. So if I say these ministers were robbed of their freedom, that’s just a term to them? They push aside the introvert/extrovert thing because it doesn’t benefit them in the sharing of faith.
- This WS has unfortunately been stretched out. This minister keeps going off about propagation and sharing faith, but that’s expected because he keeps pushing after he probably got disciplined or something for not pushing it enough. He was once very cool, very chill, but now they only care about propagation, recruiting, and sharing faith. It’s sad how someone I thought could be different did not keep that.
- I want garlic bread for some reason now.
- Sharing faith guarantees a good future apparently..? Technically I’ve already done that so I think I’m good. I’ve brought more awareness that this church is a cult. I shared *my* faith, and they said to share our faith, and so I did.
Finally done, the WS that should’ve been 30 minutes was stretched to 50, with the minister going off about the sharing faith. I can’t recall then going off about EVM though.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vhe0pc/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_21_jun_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 21 - Jun 23, 2022)",vhe0pc,2022-06-21,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vhe0pc/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_21_jun_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 21 - Jun 23, 2022)",vhe0pc,2022-06-21,My extended family knows this church is a waste of their time and lives. What makes them think total strangers will believe this shit?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vhe0pc/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_21_jun_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 21 - Jun 23, 2022)",vhe0pc,2022-06-21,"
* Deadly Themes:
* Intensive Propagation
* Don’t Leave the INC
* [Isaiah 62:11-12](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+62%3A11-12&version=NKJV)
* [Hebrews 12:22-23](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+12%3A22-23&version=NKJV)
* [Acts 20:28](https://www.studylight.org/bible/eng/glt/acts/20-28.html) (links to Lamsa even though the translation wasn’t named)
* [1 Samuel 12:22, 24](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+12%3A22%2C+24&version=NKJV)
* [Romans 12:11](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Romans%2012:11)
* [1 Corinthians 15:58](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1%20Corinthians%2015:58)
* [Psalm 40:9-10](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+40%3A9-10&version=NKJV)
* [Matthew 5:14-16](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A14-16&version=NKJV)
* [Philippians 4:3](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Philippians%204:3)
* [Daniel 12:1](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Daniel%2012:1)
Hymns that stood out include 471 & 469 (“I Thank You, Father, for My Election” & “In His Church, Be Found, When the Lord Returns”, respectively). Need I say more?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vhe0pc/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_21_jun_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 21 - Jun 23, 2022)",vhe0pc,2022-06-21,"INCult back on track again I see; hitting the usual notes, checking the usual checkboxes.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vhe0pc/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_21_jun_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 21 - Jun 23, 2022)",vhe0pc,2022-06-21,"Thank you so much for sharing. So basically same bullshit but just different toilet. Nothing changed but on hand one, how can anyone expect INC to change their lessons since they’re derived from a few cherry picked verses. It’s not as if they cover the Bible first page up to last pages of the Bible. They only use few verses and even that, they don’t even read or mentioned the entire chapter - they always frog leap, jumping from verse to the next. Otherwise, the entire gamut of INCULT doctrine won’t make any sense if they based them in the Bible.
Anyway, I myself has distance from the Bible since I left in 2018. Before anyone criticizes me, it’s my choice and this subreddit is for everyone accepting others differences. Just forewarned to not force your belief in our throats.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vhe0pc/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_21_jun_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 21 - Jun 23, 2022)",vhe0pc,2022-06-21,"All I heard was fervor and propagation. So basically regurgitated vomit.
The minister also tried hard to guilt trip all in attendance that don’t attend the EVMs or Bible studies. Ha! Jokes on him! I don’t try or care.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vhe0pc/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_21_jun_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 21 - Jun 23, 2022)",vhe0pc,2022-06-21,"Because strangers usually fall in Love with a member of the Iglesia Ni Cristo. That person just usually joins the church CULT because of loving the CULT member, and the preaching of the INC just goes in one ear out the other. Most non-members that married a Cult member of the INC truly see’s the business scheme’s on how the Manalo Administration conducts its brainwashing preaching. They usually stay because they love their spouse and tolerate the BULLSHIT Manalo business CULT!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vhe0pc/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_21_jun_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 21 - Jun 23, 2022)",vhe0pc,2022-06-21,"As a kid I thought that they would read the bible from start to finish, but it doesn’t seem to be that way. I want to read it myself from start to finish to get the proper context they leave out, but my parents seem to talk about it like it’s not worth my time.. it’s something they say we should live by, but yet I never read it cover to cover. And they seem to discourage it too, saying only ministers or whatever can interpret it… if only they knew of the thing inside our head called a brain..
I might try to read the bible a bit to understand it better, but I’m not gonna force it on anyone, and I’m glad I won’t have to no matter what the church says. I found myself being less judgmental since I mentally left, and it is really nice to be accepting of differences.
Unfortunately for the church, they don’t like differences.
However they see all the difference in me and can’t do anything about it because I haven’t technically done anything wrong.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vhe0pc/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_21_jun_23/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 21 - Jun 23, 2022)",vhe0pc,2022-06-21,"Even nonmembers are not that dumb. Even if they had fallen in love with an INC member, chances are they will likely do their research first and not jump head first and plunge to their deaths (I’m not being literal). I just meant I don’t think people will likely just give up their life for a cult membership.
With the internet (and this subreddit) aka free information, INC is at the losing end. I know for certain that they are not growing - they are losing memberships. Perhaps it’s a different story in the Philippines but outside of that country, no one knows about INC.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vhe0pc/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_21_jun_23/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,"It's the end of the month my pals, ako'y INC will be played for the weekend WS and here are the things that I remember from today's WS:
- take great care of you being a part of the INC
- don't ever turn your back against the church
- follow rules and regulations of the bible
- let your parents be the example of a good moral person
- encourage (force) your children into taking offices
- force your family and friends to enter this cult for salvation",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,🥱🥱 sounds like another waste of time..seems like INCult trying to hard to keep the youth in check cause they know everybody is becoming woke!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,"Lesson was about how parents should teach/monitor their children. I know not how this would fall within the Seven Deadly Themes.
* [Deuteronomy 29:18](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Deuteronomy%2029:18)
* [Judges 2:7-17](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Judges+2%3A7-17&version=NKJV)
* [Jeremiah 1:16](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Jeremiah%201:16)
* [Psalm 18:21-22](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+18%3A21-22&version=NKJV)
* [2 Chronicles 29:6-8](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Chronicles+29%3A6-8&version=NKJV)
* [2 Peter 2:21, 20](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Peter+2%3A21%2C+20&version=NKJV)
* Tangent: If it truly were better not to have known, then why does INC insist on intensive propagation and not simply remaining silent? How sacred is INC’s cash cow?
* [Deuteronomy 31:11-13](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+31%3A11-13&version=NKJV)
* [Genesis 18:19](https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Genesis%2018:19)
* [Proverbs 31:26-27](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+31%3A26-27&version=NKJV)
* Here we see INC’s attempt to justify its “monitor your children” ~~coercion~~ “instruction.” Are they sure they’re not a cult?
* [Proverbs 22:6](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+22%3A6&version=NKJV)
* [Jeremiah 32:38-41](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah+32%3A38-41&version=NKJV)
* [Psalm 25:1-6, 11, 16, 20-21](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+25%3A1-6%2C+11%2C+16%2C+20-21&version=NKJV)
INC proved its desperation with the hymns: 353 (“We Will Never Weary”) is basically nothing but obedience/submission; 356 (“My Loyalty to You Will Never Change”) does nothing to help matters. Sandwiched between those two, 378 (“The Sure and Strong Anchor for Our Lives”) includes the lyric, “Never straying from the true faith,” to keep the members trapped. Of course, the monthly singing of “I Am a Member of the CHURCH OF CHRIST” only adds to the 💩storm.
I know this is late, but I finally did my (semi)usual comment for [last midweek](https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vhe0pc/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_21_jun_23/idp7s4q/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3).",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,"It’s warmer today and therefore my mind is gonna focus more on the heat than someone yelling and repetitively teaching.
Here’s some points I noted:
- It’s apparently evil for someone in a household or family to be turned away/have a different faith or worship other gods, no wonder why OWEs can’t leave other people alone that easily
- Lots of bible stories used to justify obedience, like the Israelites or something.
- The examples taught by the minister were all for justifying attending stuff like WS, bible studies, etc.
- Now they’re transitioning into obedience and how it can implemented in households/families. I can see the excessive monitoring and strict instructions coming in now.
- “Teach our children by example”
- The minister talks about kids and their “gadgets” like it’s a bad thing, much like a boomer may do. Ironically the minister is not. Seems like the brainwashing of the ministers turns them all to a similar age range, no matter how young they are.
Whole WS was about one hour, and the A/C does not seem to work well. Other than that, those are some of the points I decided to note down.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,"Back to the same old ""don't leave the INC"" bullshit. The lessons over the past weeks were amazingly ignorant but at least they were **actual outliers** to the Deadly Themes.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,"The stuff they spewed forth this time:
- Don't Leave INC
- Bible story
- Lake of Fire
- Attend WS
- Obedience is everything
Forgot to add these ones so I'm adding it now.
- Brainwash your children (will count 2 because it was talked about in one of the previous WS)
- Monitor your children
(Not sure if these were officially part of today's lesson but regardless, the preaching ministers talked about it so I'm listing it here too)
- Propagation
- Social media against the church
- Don't hate your fellow INC
- Watch/Share INC propaganda
- The Administration
They really seem to be ramping up their ""pamamahayags"" again. Never a week passed without hearing the word ""pamamahayag"" from these nutjobs. The desperation of these people.
Here's the updated Tally sheet as of this day:
- WS tallied: 12
- PPVs: 1
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 3
- Offerings - 4
- Propagation - 8
- Detractors - 2
- Social media against the church - 1
- The Administration - 6
- Others religions are wrong - 6
Others:
- God - 4
- Felix Y. Manalo - 6
- Eduardo V. Manalo - 1
- Jesus Christ - 1
- Bible story - 4
- Good values - 3
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 3
- Lake of Fire - 5
- Salvation - 5
- Only INC will be saved - 3
- World is terrible - 6
- Life is hard - 3
- Doomsday - 3
- Attend church activities - 1
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time- 3
- July 27 is WW1 - 3
- Intensive renewal of life - 3
- Disregard yourselves - 1
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 4
- Being Persecuted- 1
- INC's ""victories""- 2
- INC is growing- 2
- Other religions are failing - 2
- Watch/Share INC propaganda - 3
- Be wise but stay blind - 1
- Fight for your faith - 1
- Family - 2
- Disregard Science - 1
- Abortion is bad - 2
- Obedience is everything - 4
- Pray for everything - 3
- Family Hour - 2
- Participate in church activities - 1
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa is proof enough- 1
- Brainwash your children - 2
- Monitor your children - 1
CWS lesson today was a bible story about Jeremiah (not sure if I translated that right) and how he was persecuted but still succeeded and reestablishing God's church because God. Then they went all Felix Y. Manalo equals Jeremiah cause why not? They're a cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,"I managed to skip for 2 weeks whilst my OWE parent was away, but they dragged me with them today.
Didn’t pay much attention as I was falling asleep and the one preaching has an annoying accent. Is it bad that I’m amused when he reads out the incorrect verse and confuses himself? 🙃
All I remember was something about watch what your children do on social media, make sure they don’t have friends outside of the cult, propagation blah blah, thanksgiving aka give us your money for the “anniversary.”
Then I got dragged into a kadiwa meeting 🙄… 10 minutes lang daw… 45 minutes later and thankfully no stupid photo for “documentary purposes.”",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,*Invade your children's privacy by snipping their phones*,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,iglesia ni cristo cult is irrelevant. Never ever join that cult. A waste of time and money.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,Hinting and forcing all members of the family should get office work even there's so much circumstances that a family mem. can't. Irl or health problem doesn't even matter,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,One word. F E A R - M O N G E R I N G,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,"Yes I will follow Bible
1 Corinthians 7:1 (all verses)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,Too late because this is like a run away train. Can’t stop it. It’s downhill for INCULT at this point.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,">they know everybody is becoming woke!
My ex-s/o said this to me when we broke up. I mentioned looking at doctrines of similar religious groups and she goes, ""See you're listening to them. You're getting too woke."" Like... Is this the trend now for INC. Anyone who's researching and reading outside viewpoints to gain a broad perspective is ""woke""?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,"Our young daughter actually heard the WS thanks to her mom. She usually could care less about what her mom believes. But this time she was forced to listen. She told me she did all she could to keep from bursting out laughing at how ridiculous the sermon was. The entire set a good example for your children lesson really hit home because the day before her mom was behaving like a 5 year old and throwing a temper tantrum all because I had a few things go wrong with my plans for the family the evening before. And she is still behaving like a 5 year old.
But then my wife missed a few WS in the last month. So she was very uptight long before my debacle. I suspect she got hammered with some guilt tripping from her overseer and from her mom. My wife believes the cult of manalo bs but seems to want to skip WS once in a while. Not entirely certain what is going on in her head. It has got to be a messed up mind. That I and the kids refuse to believe the manalo bs probably made this sermon especially frustrating for her. And so the childish tantrums. Given the July bs of INC usually leads to her being especially touchy, I am trying to prepare myself for a month of childish drama from her.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,"Rookie mistake with the kadiwa meeting, my friend. You never attend those. Ever. I learned that from my binhi times. 30 minute waiting time. 10 minutes of nonsense. Another 30 minutes of bible lecture.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,"Hi Nice-One,
Yes the INC is just a money-pit and you will never get anything from being their members but a broken heart and emptied bank account.
Young Offenheimer",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,Indeed. Pretty much has always been their signature move.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,Big facts!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,"Yup, INCult losing their grip on things. Alot of people aren't falling for their fake ass bullshit anymore!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,"Found out that I am right, my wife did not want to go to WS this weekend but was guilt tripped into going. She could not find a way to tell me so instead got angry at me and made excuses and blamed me for random stuff. Sad. She fully believes the INC fables, but just wants to occasionally skip a WS. INC has her so wound up and so convinced that I am the cause of her stress. Instead of her taking an honest view and recognizing that it is INC. INC so stresses out the owe members that I bet they are killing them off early from heart attacks and strokes. Just stupid because those dying members are not being replaced and so the cash flow is being killed off by their demanding controlling behavior
Oh well I should count it as a blessing that this cult is literally killing it's members off",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jun 24 - Jun 27, 2022)",vjp4h9,2022-06-24,"Oh I managed to dodge them for years, as they are always boring and irrelevant to me!
This time around my OWE parent sat down with me to make sure I attended 🙄
The worst ones are when they would host them on webex. I would turn off my camera and watch tv instead 🤣",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vjp4h9/weekend_worship_service_examination_jun_24_jun_27/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 28 - Jun 30, 2022)",vmnyb0,2022-06-28,"Hello trapped members. Let SKIPPING this midweek INCult brainwashing session, be the one to spearhead your exodus out of INCult. It is empowering. It is a great feeling to stick it up to the Manalo Conglomerate of scammers.
Looking back, when it was almost INCult WS time, I would disappear and go to Chipotle and eat by myself. I would have tears running down my cheeks as I know my family is not too happy with me missing the WS. But, my Lord God and the extra order of guacamole got me through. A banana split or bubble tea afterwards, happiness. Thank you Jesus.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vmnyb0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_28_jun_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 28 - Jun 30, 2022)",vmnyb0,2022-06-28,"WS's attended in a row without offering: 2
Today's minister(s) preached the following :
- Pray for everything (Most talked about)
- Life is hard
- God
- Felix Y. Manalo
- Erano G. Manalo
- Eduardo V. Manalo
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time
- INC's ""victories""
- Others religions are wrong
- Family Hour
- Propagation
- Obedience is everything
- Disregard yourselves
2nd minister literally did everything he could to make the lesson longer than it should. Giving way too much examples and stories, even going off topic at times.
Here's my updated tally sheet as of this day. Propagation is still in the lead:
- WS tallied: 13
- PPVs: 1
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 3
- Offerings - 4
- Propagation - 9
- Detractors - 2
- Social media against the church - 1
- The Administration - 6
- Others religions are wrong - 7
Others:
- God - 5
- Felix Y. Manalo - 7
- Erano G. Manalo - 1
- Eduardo V. Manalo - 2
- Jesus Christ - 1
- Bible story - 4
- Good values - 3
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 3
- Lake of Fire - 5
- Salvation - 5
- Only INC will be saved - 3
- World is terrible - 6
- Life is hard - 4
- Doomsday - 3
- Attend church activities - 1
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time- 4
- July 27 is WW1 - 3
- Intensive renewal of life - 3
- Disregard yourselves - 2
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 4
- Being Persecuted- 1
- INC's ""victories""- 3
- INC is growing- 2
- Other religions are failing - 2
- Watch/Share INC propaganda - 3
- Be wise but stay blind - 1
- Fight for your faith - 1
- Family - 2
- Disregard Science - 1
- Abortion is bad - 2
- Obedience is everything - 5
- Pray for everything - 4
- Family Hour - 3
- Participate in church activities - 1
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa is proof enough- 1
- Brainwash your children - 2
- Monitor your children - 1
Also good news! They read the names of two people who just got expelled from INC for ""not being united with the church admin"". I'd say congratulations to them. May the Manalo cult lose more members.
Edit: Forgot to add Disregard yourselves.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vmnyb0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_28_jun_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 28 - Jun 30, 2022)",vmnyb0,2022-06-28,"The Praising of a Cult Leader (Eduardo Manalo) on a video to congratulate him for a 108 Anniversary celebration of the Cult Church. The ministry never preached nor gave any praise to Jesus Christ for sacrificing his life for all our sins. The minister manipulated the Bible in a way that the whole “thanksgiving” of money that’s set aside is for Gods keeping’s, and that it’s a way to heaven by giving money to him. False manipulation, and Toxic preaching to its members. Cult preaching practices that blind their members of the truth of the Gospel of Christ Jesus.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vmnyb0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_28_jun_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 28 - Jun 30, 2022)",vmnyb0,2022-06-28,"idk if the minister was making sense or am I just really tired from last night's choir practice, here's some of the things that I kinda remember:
- Trust God into relieving us from all the pain and suffering that we are currently experiencing
- Because God isn't human, he can't make lies
- INC family hour
- never doubt God
- The INC members should never feel anxiety and depression, instead we should have devotional prayers instead",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vmnyb0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_28_jun_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 28 - Jun 30, 2022)",vmnyb0,2022-06-28,"Started off as usual with doom and gloom/remark of how the world is terrible/not getting better.
Notes and points:
- Minister encourages us to place our full trust in God, seems decent but I feel like they’re going to rope in something that benefits them and burdens everyone else
- Minister indeed ties in the israelites and the church
- “Keeping holding firmly onto your hope in the promises of God” They seem to be talking about God in a more positive tone this time, rather than wrathful and fearful. I wish it would be more of the merciful and loving side, fear mongering just gets old and boring after some time.
- “We should not worry” “Pray to God” = “true characteristics of the children of God” or something
- Have faith (They keep repeating basics as if we are children.. there wouldn’t be much growth with repetition, they could try keeping things somewhat fresh so everyone would actually want to listen)
- “Nothing is impossible with God”
- “God hates doubt” - They went from uplifting to not so uplifting pretty quickly..
- “Bear much fruit, the kind that *endures*” - I should start counting how many times they specifically say “bear much fruit”, they seem to emphasize it all the same way.
Seems like they miss the second part of that all the time because while they bear ‘much’ fruit, (assigning random people and forcing it) it does not endure. Most people I’ve seen forced into offices leave at some point, or aren’t too happy doing it. Not exactly fruit, and not exactly fruit that endures, so why do they keep doing the same thing if it doesn’t work?
- The minister is saying that the time we use (free time?) should be used instead for worship service..? Maybe I misheard it.
- “Set aside our offerings is a command from God. Let us not be offended”
- “Let us share our faith” - They justify it by saying God will grant us whatever we want if we share our faith.
- “Let us not spend all of our time in this world, we are “pilgrims” here, our true home is in the holy city” - Sounds or seems a little selfish to me…
- Apparently for our prayers to be answered according to the minister, ask God to “look down in pity” on us..
The WS was about 50 minutes. Surprisingly, they did not mention the phrase “works of propagation”, only “sharing of faith”.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vmnyb0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_28_jun_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 28 - Jun 30, 2022)",vmnyb0,2022-06-28,I'm not a member but from what I've read here Chipotle and Boba tea sounds extremely more enjoyable than WS.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vmnyb0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_28_jun_30/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jun 28 - Jun 30, 2022)",vmnyb0,2022-06-28,I have been able to save time and money since leaving the INCult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vmnyb0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jun_28_jun_30/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,"umurong sana ang karamihan sa mga lokal sa pasalamat nila. wala namang kwenta abuluyan sa INCult. pinapayaman lang si manalo. sa hirap ng buhay ngayon, unahin nyo mga sarili nyo at pamilya nyo wag si manalo.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,Are you ready to hear lessons about abundant offerings over and over again?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,Abundant offerings lesson is back. 🤑🤮,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,"Because it's the going to be the same shit the whole month - offer and obey - I'll just tell you a story.
Last week, one of the deacons was sobbing uncontrollably. I thought it was because someone died in his family. Then I heard that his son got expelled from the church, and everything made sense. I don't know what he got expelled for. Maybe he was on this subreddit. Maybe he had a non-INC GF. This is just speculation considering his age.
Just so you know how far the brainwashing goes.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,"Tbh I’m somewhat relived that they’re back to preaching the same ol’ shit about offering, submission, and propagation. It gets really cringey and annoying when they try to get into stuff like abortion and lgbtq rights. I ain’t surprised about these idea that INC has, its just so fucking painful to hear.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,"I detest the lessons. My parents are struggling to pay my tuition fee. We already have F2F classes on Monday and I am enrolled in a university far from our home. My parents had to spend A LOT so that I can reside in a house near my school. I can hear my mother's sighs when she budgets. It depresses me every night because i feel like a burden even though they don't treat me like it.There's not a single night that I weep. If only I could find a scholarship... chances are very slim here in the province (I've already applied for one but the results aren't out yet) Then Manalo comes along, asking everyone to give abundant offerings as if money is earned the easy way. It's very frustrating.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,"Hello folks. It is the start of the month of July and the beginning of the 2nd half of 2022. Allow me to put in a challenge/task to all of you trapped members? How many brainwashing sessions disguised as INCult WS do you think would you miss until you get a visitation? BTW, I started with skipping midweek, then the family was so worried with me that they accepted/happy/satisfied/good enough, that I only attended weekends. The only time that I had to go midweek was the prep for HS. They are so worried that I can not partake my shot of Welch juice. I totally stopped attending during the pandemic. Saved my time. Saved my money.
Here are my go to excuses for midweek. I have work. I don't feel good. I am tired.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,Hello everyone what's the topic for today?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,"Not even a minute in, and abundant offerings have been mentioned with emphasis. The reason according to the minister is to give glory/praise to God.
Points and Highlights:
- Many tie-ins of the offering and bible verses praising God, implications that our offerings are how we give thanks or glory, and potentially the more money the more glory. But it’s all going to the church admin.
- Acts 20:28 included
- I was able to sit towards the back and observe everyone, just about everyone had a bored or skeptical body language. Including the choir members and even some high ranking officers. Less than 5 or maybe 2-3 at least. were genuinely interested, but I only saw one seeming interested. At the most, 5 people genuinely interested.
- “Redouble your efforts” - Justification for exploitation of free labor from the members
- Minister seems to have been pushing thanksgiving offering more lately. Like it’s a mandatory thing, not a voluntary thing. They even say “voluntary offering” sometimes. They frequently push for it, and say “let us participate” or something.
- “God loves a cheerful giver” - I have not seen anyone give offerings with a smile on their face. Maybe inside they’re smiling, but they don’t seem so cheerful.
The justification for the abundant offerings seems to be that by giving offerings (our money that they keep asking we give to them), we are giving praise to God and are placing our trust in him. That it’s what a “servant of God” would do, according to them.
They also probably said that it’s to be “united with the church administration”.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,"Kung magescape ka ng INC worship siguradong malalagay ka sa Cold register at hindi magtagal ay ma-delist dahil EVM has new policy of easy delistment. Iafw, it's a minister's resp to be in state of being thrown into purgatory situation--getting demerits(cuts in pay/thrown to low class/dangerous/abusafregion locale for the bad record of diminished mbrs in his assigned locale while at the same he is expected to increase bible students and candidates for baptism. Either way, an INC minister gets punished. The sad thing is any minister who resigns will be meted out life long interferences in their private life to make sure such exincminister suffer hell in this life. There's was a minister who did not read a bible verse of the worship lesson was suspended w/o pay. Upon being summoned to return to duty by his DM after suspension and failed to do so, his DM ordered the Inc landlord mbr to expel the exincminister tenant pronto. That makes the incmbr landlord in trouble as Inc is interfering with his private affairs with his tenants.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,"OMG this lesson...
These were talked about in today's lesson:
- God
- Thanking God (cause HE tells us to)
- World is terrible
- Salvation
- Only INC will be saved
- Doomsday
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa
- Attend WS
- Offerings (surprise surprise...)
- Propagation (their #1 favorite so far)
- Intensive renewal of life
- Pray for everything
Wasn't sure if these are officially in the lesson but the minister talked about these ones too.
- Social Media against the church
- The Administration
This part where he told us to listen to what the church admin preaches and not what you see social media.
The most WTF moment for me was the minister telling us that we must still be ""sulong"" (offer more than last year's MYTG) despite the increasing prices of gas and stuff.
How are we supposed to offer more with the prices of everything increasing you may ask. This is his advise...just pray for more money...yeah...that's it...good luck. Just make sure to give them abundant amount of money, that's what's really important.
My updated tally sheet as of this day:
- WS tallied: 14
- PPVs: 1
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 3
- Offerings - 5
- Propagation - 10
- Detractors - 2
- Social media against the church - 2
- The Administration - 7
- Others religions are wrong - 7
Others:
- God - 6
- Felix Y. Manalo - 7
- Erano G. Manalo - 1
- Eduardo V. Manalo - 2
- Jesus Christ - 1
- Bible story - 4
- Good values - 3
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 3
- Lake of Fire - 5
- Salvation - 6
- Only INC will be saved - 3
- World is terrible - 7
- Life is hard - 4
- Doomsday - 4
- Attend church activities - 1
- ""Ends of the earth"" means time- 4
- July 27 is WW1 - 3
- Intensive renewal of life - 4
- Disregard yourselves - 1
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 5
- Being Persecuted- 1
- INC's ""victories""- 3
- INC is growing- 2
- Other religions are failing - 2
- Watch/Share INC propaganda - 3
- Be wise but stay blind - 1
- Fight for your faith - 1
- Family - 2
- Disregard Science - 1
- Abortion is bad - 2
- Obedience is everything - 5
- Pray for everything - 5
- Family Hour - 3
- Participate in church activities - 1
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa - 2
- Brainwash your children - 2
- Monitor your children - 1
- Only INC will be saved -1
- Thanking God - 1
WS's attended in a row without offering: 3
Edit:
Added Social media against the church and The administration. Minister also talked about it, I remember now.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,"“Inflation and the price of living is going up, brethren. Tell me, is your employer increasing your salary? If not, you must still offer abundantly for thanksgiving. Only God can provide, all you have to do is pray.”
As much as the lessons for July will bore me to sleep, I’d rather hear the repeated crap than hear them preach about “being woke” (cringey AF), LGBTQ and abortion.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,Time to count the verse used again. Average is between 11-13. Keeps me going LOL.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,Ano po teksto ngayon?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,"La Familia es Todo, got it!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,"Why not? It is our ""right and privilage"" to get forced to offer our cash away to the Manalos anyway. /s",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,Can't wait 🙃,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,Makes sense I'm pretty sure it's cause mid year thanks giving is near so they want to remind you to prepare your hundred thousands of pesos to dump into the church on Thanksgiving day.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,There isn’t much INCULT could do because they’re limited in their cherry picked Bible verses. They have to recycle same crappy nonsensical B.S. over and over which in a way is good thing because it will force members to wake up.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,Especially when the Deeply Meditate song is played! (To trick you),https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,"Poor man, just a victim of INCult's brainwashing and control. INC made families separate because of religion and beliefs. I hope he'll realize it someday and be freed or not at all, whatever makes him happy.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,I’m kinda with you on this one.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,"It is really frustrating when you have to set aside an offering for manalo cult. You could have used that money for food or other expenses.
Jesus is not coming. It's time to move on from religion especially from manalo cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,You know that the Manalo needs your money so he can buy more dirt in South Dakota/USA.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 01 - Jul 04, 2022)",vp1iuf,2022-07-01,"To be honest, I like that hymn. I just don't like how they assign that for lessons about offerings. 🤮",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vp1iuf/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_01_jul_04/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,"Zoning out becoming a thing to me but I just heard same old shit
- July 27, 1914 start of world war 1",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,"Another week, another waste of time lesson...here we go again.
Coverage:
- Doomsday
- Salvation
- Only INC will be saved
- World is terrible
- Others religions are wrong
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa
- ""Ends of the earth"" is a time period
- July 27 is WW1
- Life is hard
- Don't Leave INC
- Obedience is everything
- Be happy when suffering
Just another round of torture for me. I felt like my soul was puked on after WS. This must be INC's definition of being spiritually healthy.
Lots of watchers in the offering box, it was a huge risk pretending to drop money there but I did it, no one noticed. Four services in a row without offering baby!
Updated tally sheet:
- WS tallied: 15
- PPVs: 1
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 4
- Offerings - 5
- Propagation - 10
- Detractors - 2
- Social media against the church - 2
- The Administration - 6
- Others religions are wrong - 8
Others:
- God - 6
- Felix Y. Manalo - 7
- Erano G. Manalo - 1
- Eduardo V. Manalo - 2
- Jesus Christ - 1
- Bible story - 4
- Good values - 3
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 3
- Lake of Fire - 5
- Salvation - 7
- Only INC will be saved - 5
- World is terrible - 8
- Life is hard - 5
- Doomsday - 5
- Attend church activities - 1
- ""Ends of the earth"" is a time period - 5
- July 27 is WW1 - 4
- Intensive renewal of life - 4
- Disregard yourselves - 2
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 5
- Being Persecuted- 1
- INC's ""victories""- 3
- INC is growing- 2
- Other religions are failing - 2
- Watch/Share INC propaganda - 3
- Be wise but stay blind - 1
- Fight for your faith - 1
- Family - 2
- Disregard Science - 1
- Abortion is bad - 2
- Obedience is everything - 6
- Pray for everything - 5
- Abstaining from sex is bad - 2
- Family Hour - 3
- Participate in church activities - 1
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa - 3
- Brainwash your children - 2
- Monitor your children - 1
- Thanking God - 1
- Be happy when suffering - 1
Names of those pursuing to study in the SFM were read. Those poor brainwashed souls have no idea what they're getting themselves into.
Edit: Fixed my list.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,"I skipped the mid-week and now OWE parent is giving me the silent treatment lol
Glad to have gone straight home after work to actually REST!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,Konti na lang parang the Handmaid’s tale na yunb kwento ng INC,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,"Pag may nanligaw daw sayo na hindi INC, basted agad 🥺 Pano yun ayoko sa INC na ang hypocrite kasi lol. Judgemental pa",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,🥱🥱 same shit different day.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,"
About the “Living Grace” and how the Son was resurrected for us for that matter. How its the prophesied church and how members should prove it , ends of the earth, dont doubt the election (membership in church) dont hesitate , Daughter of Zion - Zion is the old Church of Christ before it was apostatized and false churches rose
Ends of the earth is referenced to time and how its fast approaching and so forth
July 27 is ww1
108th anniv and 50th anniv in north am
Obedience
Prepare yourselves for anniversary aka prepare galant clothes and a wealthy amount of monetary offerings lol dont forget the extra dash of emotion when praying while not realizing you’re a unitarian church and deny it
Verses used ( as far as I can remember )
they dont clearly state what chapter, just these
so ill assume on some.
Peter 1 :3-5
2 Peter 2 onward
Isaiah 62:11-12
and classic Matthew 24: 6-8
The annual anniversary is coming up so evm and fym were mentioned lolol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,"I couldn’t be bothered to pay attention to much of it, but it just seemed like a boastful bragging lesson of how the INC is supposed to be the one true church, the only church that will be saved, better than everyone else, holier than thou, etc.
And of course, Acts 20:28 was used again.
The minister, upon talking of sharing faith and stuff said, “let us tell our loved ones and friends of the *true* church of christ”...
One step ahead of them, I’m indeed letting them know what their real agenda is and saving them from an unnecessarily toxic and excruciatingly fake environment that wants your time and money, but at least there’s food sometimes.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,Thank goodness I left.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,Nung nandun ako sa loob (handog) madalas zoned out ako. Badtrip lang pag di jam packed sa kapilya kasi di ka uupo sa hagdan ending bawal matulog,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,INCult is just so stupid when it comes to history.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,"I used to teach history classes, I always used July 28, 1914, as the actual date of the First World War, along with references.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,Sometimes I dont give handog. (: And I feel happy to use that money as merienda lol,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,"One of the TRUEST brainwashing preaching that ever exist. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is never mentioned especially the most famous verse of John 3:16. The Iglesia Ni Cristo’s TOXIC, MISINTERPRETED, and MISLEADING preaching of cherry picked verses of the Bible to brainwash its members are truly FALSE!!! I can’t believe the minister mentioned that the most important thing in the INC church is it’s membership. FALSE, FALSE FAITH AND PREACHING!!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,"While INC keeps on insisting that it's on July 27 only because Manalo says so.
Dumb INC members couldn't even do something as simple as googling the actual start date of WW1.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,"Keep it up.
#StopOffering",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 05 - Jul 07, 2022)",vryjbt,2022-07-05,because eduardo manalo discourages them from believing what they read on the internet.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vryjbt/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_05_jul_07/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,"What a waste of time. I am much annoyed right now. The head deacon prayed in an exagerrated way (almost screaming) as if he's persecuted and is forcing himself to cry, total cringe. If i'm not mistaken, the fourth hymn is about felix manalo. The minister is an old retard. He's so hateful towards non-INC preachers and I can tell that he's a die-hard Manalo apologist. I wonder where these ministers get their confidence to boast that they're the sole legitimate preachers of Gospel.
Lesson Contents:
•INC is the true church (with the endless Acts 20:28)
•Expelled ministers who fought against EVM were shamed, they told the members to not follow their contents on socmed. (Hmmm, I guess they have read my previous post about INC detractors)
•Hatred against LGBT, pohibition of drinking liquor
•And the golden rule: Offerings is your ticket to salvation",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,"I had a sense of deja vu for most of it, must be recycled and reused content again.
The lesson came off to me as a bit boastful, justifying how the church is the “one true church”. Plentiful elitist statements and reused stuff, and somehow the minister stretched the lesson out more than necessary, or I was just falling asleep. They seem to consistently push offerings though. Probably because the average amount of offerings is lowering. They push a little too much though, one minister even seemed a little mad once that people weren’t participating.
They always say to give abundantly and cheerfully. Something that’s bothered me, and even my devoted family was the lack of info on where the offerings really go. I would like to know for sure where it really does, and I would like the other members to know where it goes too. We deserve to know where our money goes. No specifics and yet they push us all to give more.
These days, the average body language of the attendees (choir members, officers, members, guests) is a mix of boredom, skepticism, suspicion, or slight disappointment. Even the more active officers and even most of the high ranking ones look kind of bored too. Only the annoying OWEs differ, looking more lively. A little too lively.
Thanksgiving is on the horizon soon, I’m expecting some cry praying, fancier clothing, filled parking lots, and maybe creepy guards. I wonder how much money I can save from my offering this year.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,"Same old shit...
- What if you are educated, if you are not a messenger of God.
- INC is the true church
- FYM is the messenger of God
- INC will be saved
- We are lucky to be INC
- July 27, 1914",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,"We were told “if you refuse the officers visiting you, you refuse God” lmao they are there to harass you and your family. This lesson is the same old shit we hear. I’m so tired of this church.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,So they're saying that everyone in the family should be officers because that's one step closer to God. So what are your stand about this especially to those who are still officers or ex-officers w/ your family as officers?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,"Another enlightening lesson from the biggest cult in the Philippines.
Coverage:
- Others religions are wrong
- World is terrible
- Life is hard
- Doomsday
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa
- Only INC will be saved
- Jesus Christ
- Felix Y. Manalo
- Attend WS
- Social media against the church
- The Administration
- Propagation
- Intensive renewal of life
- Abortion is bad
- Being gay is bad
- Offerings
- Don't Leave INC
- Being Persecuted
Man, they sure covered a lot of these usual checklists today.
INC being all elitist again on this lesson. Lots of Manalo ass kissings too.
They kind of gave Jesus some screentime for about just a little over 5 sentences. Of course Felix Manalo gets to be talked about a lot more cause it seems that he's a lot more successful than Jesus and the apostles in keeping the church alive.
I rate this service 0/10. No offerings for you from me INC.
Too long, too condascending, too boring, too repetitive, too much guilt tripping and fear mongering just like all the other BS WS.
Updated tally sheet:
- WS tallied: 16
- PPVs: 1
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 5
- Offerings - 6
- Propagation - 11
- Detractors - 2
- Social media against the church - 3
- The Administration - 7
- Others religions are wrong - 9
Others:
- God - 6
- Felix Y. Manalo - 8
- Erano G. Manalo - 1
- Eduardo V. Manalo - 2
- Jesus Christ - 2
- Bible story - 4
- Good values - 3
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 3
- Lake of Fire - 5
- Salvation - 7
- Only INC will be saved - 6
- World is terrible - 9
- Life is hard - 6
- Doomsday - 6
- Attend church activities - 1
- ""Ends of the earth"" is a time period - 5
- July 27 is WW1 - 4
- Intensive renewal of life - 5
- Disregard yourselves - 2
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 6
- Being Persecuted- 2
- INC's ""victories""- 3
- INC is growing- 2
- Other religions are failing - 2
- Watch/Share INC propaganda - 3
- Be wise but stay blind - 1
- Fight for your faith - 1
- Family - 2
- Disregard Science - 1
- Abortion is bad - 3
- Being gay is bad - 1
- Obedience is everything - 6
- Pray for everything - 5
- Abstaining from sex is bad - 2
- Family Hour - 3
- Participate in church activities - 1
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa - 4
- Brainwash your children - 2
- Monitor your children - 1
- Thanking God - 1
- Be happy when suffering - 1",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,"I caught a few snippets of what was said during the Saturday afternoon snoozefest. Ministers from other religions said they were called to preach due to a vision or something similar. Apparently, that is wrong. Yet, the INC founder (Felix Manalo) felt he was a messenger after depriving himself of food and drink for three days, thereby increasing the chance he was hallucinating. But that is ok",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,[deleted],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,Same shit different day,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,"The INC standard
INC attendance of worship services
The last messenger which is not Jesus Christ
Iglesia Ni Cristo is the truth and other churches are false.
108 year s of Iglesia Ni Cristo is Gods blessing and still no preaching of Jesus Christ’s Gospel
The scriptures are cherry picked by the Eduardo Administration that is repetitive from Eranyo and Felix
Truly a True CULT brainwashing business scheme that the Manalo regime conducts",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,"Being an officer never made me feel closer to God or anything. It only made me feel like I'm in prison for things I haven't done.
All you get to experience here are lots of time wasting meetings, devotional prayers, more manipulations and exploitations.
I felt no blessings whatsoever. There is no God here.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,"Thanks for sharing.
I’m forever grateful that I’m out of the bloody cult.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,He cannot declare himself to be a messenger just by quoting a verse from the Bible and claiming it to be referring to him. Felix Manalo is a delusional freak.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,"Yeah, the Church pretty much debunked their own claims in their lesson which was actually hilarious. This morning minister realized no one was listening anymore so he extended the lesson by guilt tripping the congregation, which made them not listen even more. He even asked the head deacon questions, and that guy wasn’t even paying attention 😴😴😴😴😴",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,lgtv? what's that LMAO,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,He means LGBTQ or gays/homosexuals. The topic may be about them again.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,"oh boy, i wonder what they have to say about us this time 😃",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,We'll check to see if that comes up again. We must wait for our regular commenters who post here about lessons from the midweek and weekend worshit services.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,"It's mid-year earnings for the INCult.
I expect it to center on their bread and butter: offerings, submit to the administration, propagation.
I'm waiting for the Macedonians to make a cameo.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 08 - Jul 11, 2022)",vubg58,2022-07-08,Macedonians are always making a cameo role along with Ananias and Saphira to guilt-trip their members.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vubg58/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_08_jul_11/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 12 - Jul 14, 2022)",vxbxju,2022-07-12,"Today's lesson:
- Only INC will be saved
- Don't Leave INC
- Others religions are wrong
- Intensive renewal of life
- Propagation (why do they always have to talk about this in almost every WS lesson?)
- The Administration
- Don't hate your fellow INC
- Salvation
- Disregard yourselves
- Christmas is bad (yet they dedicate 1 month to talking about Felix Manalo during WS on his birthday, so CULTY!)
- Valentines is bad
- Halloween is bad
- Horoscope is bad
- We are Christians even online (No, they're Manalistas even online)
- Being gay is bad
- Attend WS
- Being Persecuted
- Be wise but stay blind
- World is terrible
- Life is hard
- Obedience is everything
Updated tally sheet:
- WS tallied: 17
- PPVs: 1
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 6
- Offerings - 6
- Propagation - 12
- Detractors - 2
- Social media against the church - 3
- The Administration - 8
- Others religions are wrong - 10
Others:
- God - 6
- Felix Y. Manalo - 8
- Erano G. Manalo - 1
- Eduardo V. Manalo - 2
- Jesus Christ - 2
- Bible story - 4
- Good values - 3
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 4
- Lake of Fire - 5
- Salvation - 8
- Only INC will be saved - 7
- World is terrible - 10
- Life is hard - 7
- Doomsday - 6
- Attend church activities - 1
- ""Ends of the earth"" is a time period - 5
- July 27 is WW1 - 4
- Intensive renewal of life - 6
- Disregard yourselves - 3
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 7
- Being Persecuted- 3
- INC's ""victories""- 3
- INC is growing- 2
- Other religions are failing - 2
- Watch/Share INC propaganda - 3
- Be wise but stay blind - 2
- Fight for your faith - 1
- Family - 2
- Disregard Science - 1
- Abortion is bad - 3
- Being gay is bad - 2
- Obedience is everything - 7
- Pray for everything - 5
- Abstaining from sex is bad - 2
- Family Hour - 3
- Participate in church activities - 1
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa - 4
- Brainwash your children - 2
- Monitor your children - 1
- Thanking God - 1
- Be happy when suffering - 1
- Christmas is bad - 1
- Valentines is bad - 1
- Halloween is bad - 1
- Horoscope is bad - 1
- We are Christians even online - 1
I'm sure next mid week or maybe this weekend, they'll talk about thanksgiving w/ load of offerings, Macedonia and the story of Ananias and Sapphira.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vxbxju/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_12_jul_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 12 - Jul 14, 2022)",vxbxju,2022-07-12,"As usual, the emphasis of Worship Lesson is the July 27 INC Anniversary extortion of Thanksgiving monies from members through threats and use of Bible verses improperly used. When someone celebrates his/her own birth anniversary who does the preparation and serving the invited guests? It's the celebrator or his/her close family. Are the guests required to bring gifts? No. It is only voluntary and not mandatory. Does Manalo or family prepare and serve INC members for the Anniversary celebration? No. What kind of offering is required by God? Is it a money offering? No, it's not. It the offering of praise. (Ps 50:23)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vxbxju/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_12_jul_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 12 - Jul 14, 2022)",vxbxju,2022-07-12,"Should uphold our membership whenever we are and whatever we do. We are tied to being INC. we should not believe and/or celebrate forbidden things like christmas, valentines, horoscope.. Zoned out a lot so these are just what I remembered",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vxbxju/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_12_jul_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 12 - Jul 14, 2022)",vxbxju,2022-07-12,"Somehow felt uninterested immediately instead of 1-2 minutes in..
Some points and notes:
- Minister says we must value our membership
- Justification and “evidence” of how we are the chosen people or something
- Minister wants regular members to attend devotional prayers
- “We must obey”
- “A true servant of God would obey all his commandments”
- “We must prioritize our worship services to God above all else”
- “The worship service is our appointment with God” (so God isn’t with us as soon as we step foot outside the compound? )
- “We must give offerings, let us not be offended for they are to praise God”
- Side note, they mentioned earlier for officers to prepare for the year end thanksgiving.. we haven’t even had the mid year thanksgiving yet, I think they said to prepare our offerings and I don’t remember them saying to prepare ourselves. Seems a bit greedy focusing more on offerings than the state of someone.
- “We strive to be good examples to others, to be as lights of the world that is dark” (Good example of what not to be, that’s what.)
- Works of propagation shoutout about 30 minutes in, on point, on time, using the “branch bearing fruit” verse as an example as always
- “Let us be united with the church administration” (Just go and say obey and never complain while you’re at it, that’s about the motto for INC now.)
- “We may experience persecution for we uphold a righteous way of life” (Where does it say that being toxic, manipulative, guilt tripping bastards is the equivalent of righteous?)
- “God has sent the church administration; let us obey”
- “To not obey and follow God’s commandments is to waste our time”
- Colossians 9-11 (not entirely sure) : used to answer the question that *literally nobody* asked; “what does the church administration do for us”
Lesson Main Topics: Church Membership, Be a Good example, Church administration, unity/obedience",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vxbxju/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_12_jul_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 12 - Jul 14, 2022)",vxbxju,2022-07-12,So MTs or officers are obligated to join CWS and also obligated to have offering?? What is this? It's CWS .....,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vxbxju/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_12_jul_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 12 - Jul 14, 2022)",vxbxju,2022-07-12,Good job. You have no idea how much your listings helps me prepare for those themes being spoken from my wife and her OWE mom.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vxbxju/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_12_jul_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 12 - Jul 14, 2022)",vxbxju,2022-07-12,sounds like the lesson was fun! i can't wait to waste more of my time!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vxbxju/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_12_jul_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 12 - Jul 14, 2022)",vxbxju,2022-07-12,"Truly the iglesia Ni Cristo is brainwashing conditioning their members minds to control them with these FALSE PREACHINGS!!! Repetitive tactic preaching of a Cult, Cult, Cult. The Manalo Administration is lucky that America has freedom of religion especially a Cult religion",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vxbxju/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_12_jul_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 12 - Jul 14, 2022)",vxbxju,2022-07-12,but my minister said if i don't give my credit card number and the magic 3 numbers on the back to eduardo v manalo (blessings be upon him) i'm going to burn in the lake of fire!!!!!!!1,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vxbxju/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_12_jul_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 12 - Jul 14, 2022)",vxbxju,2022-07-12,"To be sarcastic we should celebrate a 108 anniversary of the Iglesia Ni Cristo Cult, and Eduardo’s birthday………what type of hypocrisy is that. True brainwashing at it’s Finest with a capital “C” for cult!!!",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vxbxju/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_12_jul_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 12 - Jul 14, 2022)",vxbxju,2022-07-12,"Imagine the iglesia Ni Cristo never preaches LOVE, PEACE, and HARMONY. Nothing of Jesus Christ’s Gospel.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vxbxju/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_12_jul_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 12 - Jul 14, 2022)",vxbxju,2022-07-12,Thanks,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vxbxju/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_12_jul_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 12 - Jul 14, 2022)",vxbxju,2022-07-12,"Funny thought hit me from reading your words. Please don't do this. Please don't engage in illegal activity! But the thought that struck me was: What would happen if thousands of dollars were donated to INC via stolen credit cards? Would INC be blacklisted by banks or investigated by governments?
It is a question I ask because those are the sort of things that I understand has happened to criminals and fraudulent organizations who have used stolen credit cards.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vxbxju/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_12_jul_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 12 - Jul 14, 2022)",vxbxju,2022-07-12,True,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vxbxju/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_12_jul_14/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 12 - Jul 14, 2022)",vxbxju,2022-07-12,"The only reason INC still takes physical checks and cash is because checks have explicit usage on the face, and cash is untraceable.
If they legit had a subscription service for salvation not only would I puke but I think then I would just straight up protest and leave. That would be going too far.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vxbxju/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_12_jul_14/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,"For CWS Mid year Thanksgiving:
The lesson was basically telling kids that we should thank God and offer our money because he made Manalo's church grow under the leadership of EVM, never once mentioning that it was because God kept us safe, well and alive all througout the year. It's all about Manalo and his holy corporation.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,"I swear to Gods above, this was the same lesson last week, if I hear social media one more time I will SCREAM",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,"Starting Statement: To be saved, you have to be in the INC, and it’s not enough just to be a member
Always never enough inside this church.. they’ll argue that one needs to ‘progress’ even if no real progress has been made, they keep pushing even without results first
Points and highlights:
- Acts 20:28 used very quickly with the usual emphasis points (yelling loudly and extending the word (they unfortunately did this for the lesson a while back regarding pregnancy and specific terms))
- Minister talks about renewing the mind of one’s self and life (something a lot of members need to do instead of staying in their toxic greedy mindset)
- “Satan controls those who disobey”
- “Everything becomes renewed once you join the church of christ”
- “This world is unholy, unrighteous”
- Minister talks down on trends, says we shouldn’t do them just because it’s popular, then eventual switch to obeying/uniting with EVM, then says how the devil will work hard to separate members from their membership (they would probably claim anything that opposes them to be of the devil..)
- Minister goes off a bit on how we ‘*must*’ be active in activities, inviting guests, participation
- Minister justifies all the above, saying it is “following and obeying the commandments of God”..
- Minister pushes abundant offerings, saying we should not be offended, let us give ‘cheerfully’
A lot of repetitive themes lately, especially abundant offerings these days.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,"Tried my best to listen. I was busy trying not to zone out or doze off. I hope I didn't miss anything.
Today's lesson:
- Only INC will be saved
- Salvation
- Jesus Christ
- Others religions are wrong
- Romans 16:16 (I expected Acts 20:28. I was surprised the minister used this instead but he did not mention ""mga"" in the verse which pluralizes the ""Church of christ"")
- Propagation (again...)
- Intensive renewal of life
- Bible stories
- Disregard yourselves
- Obedience is everything
- Attend church activities
- Social media against the church
- World is terrible
- Fight for your faith
- Doomsday
- Thanking God
Updated tally sheet:
- WS tallied: 18
- PPVs: 1
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 6
- Offerings - 6
- Propagation - 13
- Detractors - 2
- Social media against the church - 4
- The Administration - 8
- Others religions are wrong - 11
Others:
- God - 6
- Felix Y. Manalo - 8
- Erano G. Manalo - 1
- Eduardo V. Manalo - 2
- Jesus Christ - 3
- Bible stories - 5
- Good values - 3
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 4
- Lake of Fire - 5
- Salvation - 9
- Only INC will be saved - 8
- World is terrible - 11
- Life is hard - 7
- Doomsday - 7
- Attend church activities - 2
- ""Ends of the earth"" is a time period - 5
- July 27 is WW1 - 4
- Intensive renewal of life - 7
- Disregard yourselves - 4
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 7
- Being Persecuted- 3
- INC's ""victories""- 3
- INC is growing- 2
- Other religions are failing - 2
- Watch/Share INC propaganda - 3
- Be wise but stay blind - 2
- Fight for your faith - 2
- Family - 2
- Disregard Science - 1
- Abortion is bad - 3
- Being gay is bad - 2
- Obedience is everything - 8
- Pray for everything - 5
- Abstaining from sex is bad - 2
- Family Hour - 3
- Participate in church activities - 1
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa - 4
- Brainwash your children - 2
- Monitor your children - 1
- Thanking God - 2
- Be happy when suffering - 1
- Christmas is bad - 1
- Valentines is bad - 1
- Halloween is bad - 1
- Horoscope is bad - 1
- We are Christians even online - 1
- Romans 16:16 - 1",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,"Cringey lesson
- INC will saved
- Our top priority in life should be being INC
- Devil can be in forms of internet and mass media that will deviate us from our faith WTF
🤮🤮🤮
Cult vibes
0/10",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,"Since I am still inside the church, and I just finished the service today. I can't help but to hear what the minister said regarding to the LGBTQ+ community, saying that this is wrong and is not God would've wanted.
It is sort of weird because I've met people who are gay and are also part of the church wanting to leave.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,"The usual preperatory WS for Mid Year TG. Had to make a big effort not to fall asleep (as usual).
""Something something offerings, something something social media, etc.""",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,"Thank you for your effort doing this. I can really tell how boring listening same old lies. (With the obviousness of July 27, 1914 as ww1)",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,"“Special Live” service to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the district 🙄
Mentioned that liking posts on social media about LGBTQ+ is un-Christian, as we must also be Christians online not just at the chapel. UGH
Offer all of your money because that’s how you’ll be saved, obey and never complain or dare to criticise the administration.
Interesting to see the minister laugh when talking about how they are labelled a cult, and outsiders persecute members for being enlightened with the truth.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,"OMG what leadership? The man just cut and paste his lessons - nothing new in his lessons, shame crappy mind numbing boring lessons. Though everything in INCULT doctrine is cherry picked and therefore there isn’t much to go on.
The only thing he’s good at is demanding for more $.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,"In any case, INCult is a business that poses as a religion.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,"Hmmm apparently the church's lessons aren't making any positive impact on the young. As per my sudden indulgence on stalking some of my INC friends' and classmates' socmed 😂, I noticed that their children-Binhi and Kadiwa aren't posting anything about INC. I'm talking about children of wealthy families. You couldn't find any INC traces on their timeline. No pictures infront of the church, no Italian flag and colors, no INC drama quotes. You probably noticed this too. Take note ministers. They're ashamed.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,Get them while they are young. Manalo MO.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,Sickening brainwashing that’s put upon the youth of the Iglesia Ni Cristo. I pray to God that these kids get bless by the truth of Jesus Christ’s Gospel that the Manalo Administration don’t preach. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,Growth? Really?! That is a joke,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,I mistakenly read the last part as 'holy corruption'. 🤦 I was surprised that it's F2F for CWS midyear thanksgiving.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,"Scream away, mate. Scream away.
'Cause they said social media influencer just like last time.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,I guess they are not hitting their quota anymore given the inflation. that’s why more emphasis on the offerings. 💰💰💰,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,Thank you for sharing.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,The Devil is the Manalo organization more like👿,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,">I can't help but to hear what the minister said regarding to the LGBTQ+ community,
I wonder why they are so obsessed with gay people.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,😱,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,Anytime.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,Their attitude towards them are less likely to be curious but to be disgusted with what they are. I have relatives that do have some sort of views towards them and it isn’t the good one.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,I have said this before EVM is likely gay. People that get fixated on a topic usually have a personal connection that they tell no one.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,It's no surprise since they are in a cult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,"Or maybe eduardo manalo can't out himself since he is a grandson of the fake 'sugo' and being a son of erdy manalo, they have high expectations of him. What a pathetic life that old fat guy in a wig has!
I hope that eduardo manalo's grandchildren and their future generations will become gays and lesbians.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 15 - Jul 18, 2022)",vzpftx,2022-07-15,"Given basic facts about incidence of gay and lesbian in the general population, the Manalos have to have had at least 2 or 3 by now. Given the fixation of EVM we can assume he is one. Which leaves another or two.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/vzpftx/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_15_jul_18/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 19 - Jul 21, 2022)",w2tgm0,2022-07-19,"Any INC lurkers go ask your minister where it says in the bible that there needs to be a Mid-Year or Anniversary Thanksgiving vs. the Annual Thanksgiving at the end of the year... It cannot be found. Even the Year-end is questionable even though there are verses that say, ""on the first day of every week, set aside a sum of money... so that there will be no collecting when I come.""
If they use the verse, ""...in *everything*, give thanks to God..."" to try and justify this blatant payday smash and grab they hold mid-year, ask, ""Where does it end, then? Why don't we have Thanksgiving EVERY Sunday? Why don't we do Holy Supper every weekend?""
There is no reason for this ""special"" service other than to cash out a big payday twice a year.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w2tgm0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_19_jul_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 19 - Jul 21, 2022)",w2tgm0,2022-07-19,"Today's lesson:
- Life is hard
- Salvation
- Only INC will be saved
- Doomsday
- Thanking God
- Offerings
- Propagation
- Attend WS
- Monitor Each other
Updated tally sheet:
- WS tallied: 19
- PPVs: 1
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 6
- Offerings - 7
- Propagation - 14
- Detractors - 2
- Social media against the church - 4
- The Administration - 8
- Others religions are wrong - 11
Others:
- God - 6
- Felix Y. Manalo - 8
- Erano G. Manalo - 1
- Eduardo V. Manalo - 2
- Jesus Christ - 3
- Bible stories - 5
- Good values - 3
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 4
- Lake of Fire - 5
- Salvation - 10
- Only INC will be saved - 9
- World is terrible - 11
- Life is hard - 8
- Doomsday - 8
- Attend church activities - 2
- ""Ends of the earth"" is a time period - 5
- July 27 is WW1 - 4
- Intensive renewal of life - 7
- Disregard yourselves - 4
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 8
- Being Persecuted- 3
- INC's ""victories""- 3
- INC is growing- 2
- Other religions are failing - 2
- Watch/Share INC propaganda - 3
- Be wise but stay blind - 2
- Fight for your faith - 2
- Family - 2
- Disregard Science - 1
- Abortion is bad - 3
- Being gay is bad - 2
- Obedience is everything - 8
- Pray for everything - 5
- Abstaining from sex is bad - 2
- Family Hour - 3
- Participate in church activities - 1
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa - 4
- Brainwash your children - 2
- Monitor your children - 1
- Thanking God - 3
- Be happy when suffering - 1
- Christmas is bad - 1
- Valentines is bad - 1
- Halloween is bad - 1
- Horoscope is bad - 1
- We are Christians even online - 1
- Romans 16:16 - 1
- Monitor Each other - 1
Worldwide evangelical mission and more INC propagation programs was announced as a celebration of the cult's 108th anniversary.
I'm sure they'll try to scare us officers again into participating.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w2tgm0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_19_jul_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 19 - Jul 21, 2022)",w2tgm0,2022-07-19,"Let me guess... abundant offerings? 🧐
UPDATE: Apparently it is not. Surprising.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w2tgm0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_19_jul_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 19 - Jul 21, 2022)",w2tgm0,2022-07-19,"just noticed, atleast in our locale, that more and more brethrens are leaving their seats just during the announcement of circulars",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w2tgm0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_19_jul_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 19 - Jul 21, 2022)",w2tgm0,2022-07-19,An extra dose of mega brainwashing to assure that the brainwashed OWEs empty their pockets for the mid year BONUS Manalo payday this weekend.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w2tgm0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_19_jul_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 19 - Jul 21, 2022)",w2tgm0,2022-07-19,"The business Cult preaching of “Preparing an offering”. Imagine guys how the Iglesia Ni Cristo transforms their Cult church preaching that manipulated the words of the Bible and created a commandment of God to give money offerings to be worthy for heaven. TRULY A TRUE CULT SCHEME!!!!! To brainwash their members for their money as only the members of the INC and their membership is the only way to Gods Kingdom. TRULY a TOXIC LIE that the INC members are brainwashed to believe, and once again the ministry never preached one word of the Gospel of Jesus Christ that was sacrificed for our sins.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w2tgm0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_19_jul_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 19 - Jul 21, 2022)",w2tgm0,2022-07-19,"An easy way to expose INC is to document including video evidence, the path to getting excommunicated or at least to get to a point that they will start threatening/harassing you about it.
EX: decreased donations, or lack of donations. AND/OR asking too many questions.
Just show the world that all their promises to outsiders are false. They always say they are happy to answer questions this and that. but what really happens when you ask questions they don't like? are members encouraged to dive deep into their own religion by learning all the weakspots and defenses for them, or are the weakspots so critically flawed that there is no defense other than dismissal of the question itself.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w2tgm0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_19_jul_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 19 - Jul 21, 2022)",w2tgm0,2022-07-19,[removed],https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w2tgm0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_19_jul_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 19 - Jul 21, 2022)",w2tgm0,2022-07-19,Truly it’s a Church Business Cult SCHEME!!!! The Manalo Regime gets more wealthy from its brainwashed members. The blindfold must come off for these poor blinded people.🙏🏼,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w2tgm0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_19_jul_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 19 - Jul 21, 2022)",w2tgm0,2022-07-19,Locale of Macedonia left the group.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w2tgm0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_19_jul_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 19 - Jul 21, 2022)",w2tgm0,2022-07-19,"….and value your memberships and the world is the enemy, etc, etc, etc…I have more fun getting my teeth cleaned. 🙄",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w2tgm0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_19_jul_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 19 - Jul 21, 2022)",w2tgm0,2022-07-19,"""Suffering is proof that you're in the true church."" 🤮 Gaslighting at its finest.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w2tgm0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_19_jul_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 19 - Jul 21, 2022)",w2tgm0,2022-07-19,"Some of the old timers have a lot of pride of the church. They don’t know that the Gospel of Jesus Christ is replaced by The Manalo prophecy. The culture of this church keeps it close net, meaning they let the youth that’s all over the world marry each other so the church grows. The brainwashing conditioning is already set in their weak minds. The INC members truly don’t read the Bible to find the truth of Jesus Christ, and continue to be blinded by the LIE that they’ve been exposed to.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w2tgm0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_19_jul_21/
"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 19 - Jul 21, 2022)",w2tgm0,2022-07-19,"Sorry, but in order to COMMENT in /r/exiglesianicristo, your account has to be at least 6 hours old AND have a minimum karma of zero. Your comment has been removed. The mods will review and approve in due time. In the meantime, please read the rules before posting https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/wiki/rules
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"Mid-week Worship Service Examination (Jul 19 - Jul 21, 2022)",w2tgm0,2022-07-19,So much to look forward too 🙃🙃,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w2tgm0/midweek_worship_service_examination_jul_19_jul_21/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,I prepared my envelop with a measly amount. Fortunately the lobby was clogged (a sudden surge of brethren caused it because they hold us at the back while waiting for the officers' panata to finish) thus I was able to skip the box. I just flipped my tarheta after the service. Isn't that nice. 🤣,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"This is it folks. The brainwashing session to skip and/or NOT give your offering.
Manalo Conglomerate, NO TEMPLE TAX for you.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"# ""WHAT WE THANK GOD FOR EVERY TIME THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST IN THESE LAST DAYS COMES""
VERSES:
1. Col 1:12, 13 & 14
2. Rom 5:8-9
3. Eph 3:6
4. Act 2:38-39
5. Isa 43:5 & 6
6. Psa 138:1-3 & 7-8
7. Isa 43:2
8. Isa 43:5
9. Lam 3:28-33 & 25-26",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"Ang weird sa amin kanina, banggit ng banggit ng july 27, 19 eme eme pero di nya sinasabi yung kasunod ""kaalinsabay ng pagsisimula ng unang digmaan pandaigdig"". Woke din ba tong nangasiwa sa amin kanina? Haha ang weird",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"Registration (27 July 1914) = WW1 (27 July 1914).
I cannot believe it... pinanigdigan na talaga...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"WS Length : 55mins
Today's lesson:
- Others religions are wrong
- Felix Y. Manalo
- Only INC will be saved
- Life is hard
- July 27 is WW1
- ""Ends of the earth"" is a time period
- INC is growing
- Thanking God
- Lake of Fire
- Disregard yourselves (Your problems aren't valid says the minister)
- Pray for everything
- God ""helps"" us
- We suck at everything
CWS lessons post MYTG: (will tally this seperately)
- Others religions are wrong
- Erano G. Manalo
- Only INC will be saved
- ""Ends of the earth"" mentioned as a time period
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa (seen in one of the lesson answers)
Updated tally sheet:
- WS tallied: 20
- PPVs: 1
Deadly themes:
- Don't Leave INC - 6
- Offerings - 7
- Propagation - 14
- Detractors - 2
- Social media against the church - 4
- The Administration - 8
- Others religions are wrong - 12
Others:
- God - 6
- Felix Y. Manalo - 9
- Erano G. Manalo - 1
- Eduardo V. Manalo - 2
- Jesus Christ - 3
- Bible stories - 5
- Good values - 3
- Don't hate your fellow INC - 4
- Lake of Fire - 6
- Salvation - 10
- Only INC will be saved - 10
- World is terrible - 11
- Life is hard - 9
- Doomsday - 8
- Attend church activities - 2
- ""Ends of the earth"" is a time period - 6
- July 27 is WW1 - 5
- Intensive renewal of life - 7
- Disregard yourselves - 5
- Take church office - 1
- Attend WS - 8
- Being Persecuted- 3
- INC's ""victories""- 3
- INC is growing- 3
- Other religions are failing - 2
- Watch/Share INC propaganda - 3
- Be wise but stay blind - 2
- Fight for your faith - 2
- Family - 2
- Disregard Science - 1
- Abortion is bad - 3
- Being gay is bad - 2
- Obedience is everything - 8
- Pray for everything - 6
- Abstaining from sex is bad - 2
- Family Hour - 3
- Participate in church activities - 1
- Acts 20:28 Lamsa - 4
- Brainwash your children - 2
- Monitor your children - 1
- Thanking God - 4
- Be happy when suffering - 1
- Christmas is bad - 1
- Valentines is bad - 1
- Halloween is bad - 1
- Horoscope is bad - 1
- We are Christians even online - 1
- Romans 16:16 - 1
- Monitor Each other - 1
- God ""helps"" us - 1
- We suck at everything - 1",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"I love how the lesson is just the same shit despite this being a ""special"" day.
It's like they can't deviate at all from the INC doctrine unless they go into offensive territory.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,It felt like I just attended a bible study 🥴,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"so i'm trying not to get in trouble so let me ask:
are they doing this whole ""come in 30 minutes before or else you are locked out even though we told you it was at this time"" thing again",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,Poor members. They work really hard to make both ends meet but ended up giving their hard-earned money to the Manalo cult.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,PPV?,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"Pasalamat kanina and yung lesson namin kanina is ang iglesia ni cristo daw ay ang ""ilaw"" para sa mga makasalanan(catholics etc na hindi kaanib sa inc) and ang inc lang daw ang may rights etc. Un lng naintindihan ko lol",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"Oooh Acts 2:38-39 INCult key word is “far off”
Then minister asks misleading question.
Minister: Who is this third group that the Bible is talking about? Let the Bible answer our question. You see here, us ministers of INC, we do not use our own opinion. (Lifts the Bible prop for full effect) Here in the Book of Isaiah.
Isaiah 43:5-6 with INCult key words “east” “afar” “ends of the earth”. Blah blah blah Philippines, WW1 = INC.
There you go folks. I just gave you a dosing of INCult brainwashing. Save your time and money and skip this hideous money making event.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"Well least there's only 9 verses.
Can't wait to see the minister make the sermon an hour and a half long.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,As expected!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"Yep, pretty much the same lesson always when it is mid year.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"They cannot change the doctrine anymore, 27 July 1914 is the stand of OUR PARENTS RELIGION... it's one of FYM's obvious mistake... prophecy crumble.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"Di naman kasi nakapag-aral yung sugo nila kaya ganyan.
Ang problema, nakapag-aral naman yung iba pero di man lang nag-research at pinanindigan talaga yung mali.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,They will. Forever.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"This looks remarkably the same as the midweek with just some subtle differences. To lurkers, isn't this boring?",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"Pasalamat, ordinary pagsamba, Holly suffer... all the same manipulated sermon... the so called kahalalan, prophecies, July 27 1914, far east, always there... I mean it's good... people soon will realized...",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,It isn't,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,It's like telling a lie!,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,Boring indeed,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,I even nearly forgot that I was in an INC thanksgiving and not just another WS.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,Ohhh okay. Central already holded a TG led by EVM.,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,"It is not like telling a lie, it is a lie.",https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/
"Weekend Worship Service Examination (Jul 22 - Jul 25, 2022)",w5bck2,2022-07-22,LOL 😂,https://www.reddit.com/r/exIglesiaNiCristo/comments/w5bck2/weekend_worship_service_examination_jul_22_jul_25/