WEBVTT 00:00:03.041 --> 00:00:05.500 Anne: At first he wasn't sure that we should have kids, 00:00:05.500 --> 00:00:08.041 and I'm like, “what are you talking about?” He's like, “well, you know, 00:00:08.041 --> 00:00:12.125 what if the kids are DeafBlind?” I mean, he had concerns. 00:00:12.375 --> 00:00:14.875 “Are you going to be able to do it?” 00:00:14.875 --> 00:00:19.125 You know, and I basically did say, “are you saying that I shouldn't be alive?” 00:00:19.125 --> 00:00:22.000 I mean, we had some heated discussions about it. 00:00:22.750 --> 00:00:24.416 Not heated, but... 00:00:24.416 --> 00:00:26.041 ...well, yeah, heated. 00:00:26.041 --> 00:00:29.125 [music plays] 00:00:34.666 --> 00:00:37.125 Renee: In my family, on my father's side, 00:00:37.375 --> 00:00:40.125 there are three brothers and sisters that have Usher. 00:00:40.625 --> 00:00:42.750 Two females and an uncle. 00:00:42.750 --> 00:00:45.625 So it's a total of three individuals who have Usher. 00:00:46.375 --> 00:00:48.250 Now, in the entire family 00:00:48.250 --> 00:00:50.375 there are seven individuals who have Usher, 00:00:50.375 --> 00:00:53.875 and that includes me as well, a younger brother, 00:00:54.875 --> 00:00:57.500 and we're both deaf with Usher. 00:00:57.750 --> 00:01:01.000 Brian: When two people are carriers of Usher syndrome, 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:03.291 it’s a recessive trait and 00:01:03.291 --> 00:01:06.875 there's about a 25% chance of passing it on, 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:09.875 and I happened to be the one 00:01:09.875 --> 00:01:12.000 member of my family with Usher syndrome. 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:17.500 As far as we know, nobody else in the family has an official diagnosis 00:01:17.500 --> 00:01:22.375 of Usher syndrome, although obviously my parents were both carriers of it 00:01:22.375 --> 00:01:25.000 and probably had family members with it at some point. 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:29.250 So I happened to be the lucky one that has it. 00:01:29.250 --> 00:01:32.125 [music plays] 00:01:35.791 --> 00:01:38.041 Renee: So before we got married, 00:01:38.541 --> 00:01:41.916 I do want to say thatwe went to several workshops on Usher. 00:01:41.916 --> 00:01:44.166 They gave us genetic counseling as well. 00:01:44.666 --> 00:01:48.166 So we both did that together and we did our research 00:01:48.166 --> 00:01:51.916 because we said, “what if we decide to have children someday?” 00:01:52.166 --> 00:01:57.416 So we started to get a lot of information on genetics, learned a lot. 00:01:57.416 --> 00:01:59.791 And my wife actually, 00:01:59.791 --> 00:02:01.916 her genetics are dominant. 00:02:02.166 --> 00:02:04.416 I have the recessive gene, 00:02:04.416 --> 00:02:08.041 so there's a less chance or probability that they will have Usher. 00:02:08.041 --> 00:02:11.916 But at the same time I'm a carrier, 00:02:11.916 --> 00:02:16.166 I have 25% possibility that a child would come out with Usher. 00:02:16.666 --> 00:02:20.416 Anne: My husband is sighted and hearing, he's a mechanic. 00:02:20.416 --> 00:02:22.166 You know, we talked about having kids. 00:02:22.166 --> 00:02:24.083 He was nervous about it. 00:02:24.083 --> 00:02:26.791 He thought we should have genetic testing. 00:02:26.791 --> 00:02:28.791 And, a couple of things: 00:02:29.166 --> 00:02:32.791 one is, I said, “both parents have to have Usher syndrome, 00:02:33.291 --> 00:02:38.041 and you do not, you know, so we'll be fine.” 00:02:38.041 --> 00:02:41.416 But also I was kind of like... 00:02:41.416 --> 00:02:43.291 ...I would still be born. 00:02:43.291 --> 00:02:47.166 I would still want to be born and have my life, even if I had known, 00:02:47.166 --> 00:02:51.041 you know, my life is still worth it and I still love my life and I have a great life. 00:02:51.541 --> 00:02:53.541 So, you know, I wouldn't 00:02:55.041 --> 00:02:59.041 not have a kid because they have Usher syndrome. 00:02:59.458 --> 00:03:02.291 I think it was a concern to my husband, Jason, 00:03:02.791 --> 00:03:06.666 to me, it wasn't really a concern. 00:03:07.791 --> 00:03:11.666 And I don't know if that’s good or bad or normal, I just... 00:03:12.291 --> 00:03:16.291 Brian: After conception with the first child, 00:03:16.291 --> 00:03:21.291 we did do the genetic test and she’s not a carrier of Usher syndrome. 00:03:21.291 --> 00:03:24.291 It did not affect our decision whether or not to have a child. 00:03:24.291 --> 00:03:27.166 We went forward with the decision 00:03:28.041 --> 00:03:30.166 knowing that it was a possibility. 00:03:30.666 --> 00:03:33.541 I'm currently married with two daughters 00:03:33.541 --> 00:03:36.291 and, as far as we know, our daughters don't have it either. 00:03:37.041 --> 00:03:42.166 Everyone in my life is typically sighted and typically hearing. 00:03:42.541 --> 00:03:45.916 Renee: I have four children and they're not DeafBlind. 00:03:45.916 --> 00:03:47.416 They're all hearing 00:03:47.416 --> 00:03:49.291 They're all hearing and they're good. 00:03:49.291 --> 00:03:52.416 [music plays] 00:03:56.291 --> 00:03:58.291 Brian: I live a happy and fulfilling life. 00:03:58.291 --> 00:04:03.041 And so, if I had a child with DeafBlindness, I would be perfectly okay with that. 00:04:03.041 --> 00:04:05.291 And this might not be a popular opinion, 00:04:05.291 --> 00:04:07.541 but I think for me there is 00:04:08.166 --> 00:04:12.166 a sense of pride in being DeafBlind. 00:04:12.166 --> 00:04:16.791 It would have been nice to have a child with DeafBlindness. 00:04:17.541 --> 00:04:20.666 There are things I've learned throughout my lifetime 00:04:20.666 --> 00:04:23.541 that I could share with that particular child. 00:04:23.791 --> 00:04:28.916 In a lot of ways they relate to their mother more in the way that they do things. 00:04:29.666 --> 00:04:32.416 Renee: They would be a part of the deaf community, you know, 00:04:32.416 --> 00:04:35.916 if they were deaf, then they could relate to me, so that’s... 00:04:36.541 --> 00:04:37.666 ...that's good. 00:04:37.916 --> 00:04:40.416 If they were DeafBlind, 00:04:41.916 --> 00:04:42.916 I'm not sure. 00:04:42.916 --> 00:04:45.541 I have so many experiences. 00:04:45.666 --> 00:04:48.416 I have the pros and the cons of both. 00:04:48.416 --> 00:04:51.791 So it's definitely a tough life to navigate, 00:04:51.791 --> 00:04:53.791 being DeafBlind, 00:04:54.041 --> 00:04:57.791 so I'm not sure what to answer. 00:04:57.791 --> 00:04:59.541 Anne: I didn't have concerns that my kids 00:04:59.541 --> 00:05:02.541 were going to have Usher syndrome or be DeafBlind. 00:05:02.541 --> 00:05:03.791 I really didn't. 00:05:04.916 --> 00:05:06.041 I think, 00:05:06.291 --> 00:05:09.416 knowing that I grew up, I had an amazing family, 00:05:09.416 --> 00:05:13.916 I was blessed. I had an amazing upport system and I grew up fine. 00:05:14.916 --> 00:05:18.791 And I do know people who won't have kids because of it, 00:05:18.791 --> 00:05:21.416 and to me that's sad. 00:05:21.416 --> 00:05:23.416 I guess I understand they're scared, 00:05:23.416 --> 00:05:25.916 they're worried about the challenges, and I'm not going to lie, 00:05:25.916 --> 00:05:30.416 I mean, there are some challenges that make it more difficult, but I wouldn't 00:05:31.041 --> 00:05:32.041 change it. 00:05:32.041 --> 00:05:33.750 [music ends]