I dunno, I think it's a bit silly to try and rationalize magic, I think
it could be just as realistic to have 'good' or 'white' magic for
healing/buffs/etc which simply isn't resistable because ... well ... it's
magic, and 'dark' magic, like burns, dots, etc which could be resisted
because ... it's magic :^)
<asbestos>
As long as we're trying to rationalize magic, I'm going to get *very*
silly and contraversial:
I see no evidence of a concept of magic resistance in 'real life' (ie
religion, witchcraft, etc - assuming such things were real), and thus think
that resisting 'good magic' is unrealistic, for example:
A priest tries to baptise you, but you RESIST!
You attempt to reincarnate as a cow, but you RESIST!
Jesus attempts to heal a leper, but the leper RESISTS!
Jim Baker attempts to lay hands on an audience member, but the audience
member RESISTS!
Jesus attempts to resurrect himself, but he RESISTS!
</asbestos>
In all, this has nothing to do with realism, but game balance. After
all, on the whole, the land of norrath is far from realistic.
Nindar - High Elven Cleric of Tunare - The Rathe
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Nick Shaffner
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff McClain <
jmcclain@...>
To: Nick Shaffner <
nicks@...>
Cc:
EQ-Clerics@onelist.com <
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Date: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: Test server: Cleric healing is now player resisted
>Yep...you should...or at least have to make a saving throw. Not sure if
>I think it should be different if YOU are casting it or not....probably
>not...
>
>I agree with your "willpower" thing to a point...but how much will power
>does it take to put on a +20 Magical Resistance ring? Shrug...maybe it
>just lets you FOCUS your will power more? Guess I could buy that...
>
>Jeff
>Jhondra - Level 14 Druid
>
>Nick Shaffner wrote:
>>
>> In that case, shouldn't you resist all buffs, Lay on Hands,
>> Ressurections, Divine Aura, Teleports, SoW, shadow step, etc etc? What
>> about resisting the clense effect on a SSOL? Or resisting Yaulp from a
>> screaming mace?
>> It seems to me there should be a distinction between friendly magic
and
>> foe magic - perhaps you are exerting willpower to resist those nasty
roots
>> and burns cast by dazed orc shamen, but allowing your friendly cleric to
>> heal you...
>>
>> --
>> Nindar - High Elven Cleric Of Tunare - The Rathe
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeff McClain <jmcclain@...>
>> Newsgroups: alt.games.everquest
>> To: Nick Shaffner <nicks@...>
>> Date: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 12:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: Test server: Cleric healing is now player resisted
>>
>> >Maybe you all think I'm crazy (and maybe I am), but I think that this is
>> >PERFECTLY reasonable. I mean if you have MAGICAL RESISTANCE, why
wouldn't
>> >it apply to ALL magic? I mean, it isn't like the item "knows your
>> thoughts"
>> >or can interpret which magic is bad and which is good. It is a good/bad
>> >tradeoff that you must consider. Sort of like how *some* items lower
>> >your ratings in one thing while providing a benefit to another. I see
>> >no reason that you shouldn't have to do a resistance roll or whatever
>> >when ANY magic is cast on you...
>> >
>> >Jeff
>> >
>> >Nick Shaffner wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well if they do end up propagating the change to the normal
servers,
>> >> then there will probably be a lot more deaths in my party - I have
enough
>> >> troublie with fizzles and running out of mana already....
>> >> I guess one thing that would help in this case is to always make
sure
>> >> the cleric is the highest level member in your party, which would
>> presumably
>> >> cut down party member's chances of resisting their heals...
>> >> Heh, I hope the magic resistance stat doesn't factor into this, I
can
>> >> see it now:
>> >> Hey, you warrior - don't use your shiny brass shield - it ups your
>> magic
>> >> resistance - or to a caster: take off that bloodstained mantle...
Maybe
>> >> they can also make tashan work on PC's too - get the enchanter to
lower
>> >> everyone's magic resistance so healing spells don't get resisted as
much.
>> >>
>> >
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