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Message ID: 2235
Date: Wed Nov 17 16:15:22 GMT 1999
Author: Pam
Subject: RE: Why do so many clerics think they're wizards?
> Ok, hold on a second....=== message truncated ===
>
> First put aside your self righteous "I know what i'm
> doing, but no one else
> does" attitude. Clerics don't hold a monopoly on
> stupidity in this game.
>
> Many times I have been grouped with higher level,
> higher HP tanks, and have
> been smoked because they don't know how to or don't
> know why they should
> keep Mob's OFF OF THE HEALER!!!
>
> I have a special macro just for these times, which
> broadcasts to my group
> that I have a MOB on me, and that no one gets healed
> till its off of me.
>
> The primary responsibilty of a cleric is healing and
> buffing. Not fighting.
> However, if needs be, those smite and melee skills
> are there because
> idiotic, barbarian warriors, like so many I've met,
> don't have an inkling
> about protecting healers.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perhaps a Princess...
> [mailto:sarah@...]
> Sent: 1999/11/16 1:47 PM
> To: EQ-Clerics@onelist.com
> Subject: RE: [EQ-Clerics] Why do so many clerics
> think they're wizards?
>
>
> From: "Perhaps a Princess..." <sarah@...>
>
> I don't know about soloing clerics, exactly. But I
> do know that I
> play AGAINST solo clerics (Ie the orcs, etc that one
> runs into in
> Oasis. These are effectively solo critters) The
> NPCs, when soloing,
> do a LOT of nuking. So I think maybe that is what
> the nukes are
> for!
>
> But I do know about playing caster types that can't
> melee well (druid and
> enchanter)
> It is not just frustrating to sit and med through a
> fight. It can also get
> to the point where you don't feel you are
> contributing to the group. It
> might be useful to remind a cleric that feels they
> need to melee/nuke every
> fight they aren't directly healing that it is okay
> to sit out a fight, med
> ALL
> the way through, and not fight at all. Even if they
> are not needed for
> healing.
> (We tend to pull blue meleers that my monk friend
> can handle all on her
> own when I'm low on mana. Then I can sit and med
> throughout. But it still
> feels a little odd. As if I'm not doing my "part" --
> It can be easy, at
> level
> 18, to think I should still be meleeing. I haven't
> gotten to the part of
> my life where I'm not effective yet. (And indeed, my
> AC is about the same as
> the monk's.
> But she clearly does much more damage than I)
>
> Anyway, you might want to humor your insecure
> clerics and such. let them
> know that
> they are STILL contributing even if they don't do
> ANYTHING in a particular
> battle.
> Or maybe even a series of battles (if you're
> fighting a lot of blues. Then
> this
> could even be possible) The cleric is still buffing,
> and being there, ready
> to
> heal, and cure poison/disease if you happen to get
> hit by one of those.
> And...
>
> Faerain, level 18 Soldier of Tunare, Solusek Ro,
> Phoenix
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rose [mailto:rliu@...]
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 10:25 AM
> >To: EQ-Clerics@onelist.com
> >Subject: RE: [EQ-Clerics] Why do so many clerics
> think they're wizards?
> >
> >
> >From: "Rose" <rliu@...>
> >
> >Hmm well since you are using my post as a stepping
> ladder to your
> >rant...lemme just first clarify to you that I know
> what a cleric's main
> >function in the group is. Trust me. Everyone
> loves me as a cleric. My
> >first char on this game is a ranger, and I got her
> up to lvl
> >40....so I know
> >what battles are like in tight situation. I KNOW
> what it is like when a
> >cleric/healer does not heal...and one that runs
> around screaming and wont
> >stand still for u to taunt the mob off...or one
> that runs to zone
> >as soon as
> >he/she starts to get hit...or one who thinks that
> nuking is better then
> >healing. I know these thing. I am not one of
> those clerics. The best way
> >to know how to play a cleric is to first play the
> opposite...a
> >tank that can
> >not heal or heal well...you would know what is
> expected in a cleric...or
> >what you think would make the best cleric.
> >
> >As to my question about cleric soloing...it isnt
> because I think Im a
> >wizard. Hell, I know I am not even close in nuking
> power compare to all
> >other nukers. The reason why I asked was due to
> the fact that I just
> >changed server and I would like to restart a cleric
> character...but I want
> >to catch up to my friends. It is as simple as
> that...just to let you know
> >that my post was not the best springboard that
> leads to yours. Since I was
> >really referring to a "solo" situation and you are
> really talking about a
> >"group" situation. I mean, who cares if the cleric
> nukes if he/she is
> >soloing? No one is going to get hurt except for
> the cleric.
> >
> >All protestation aside. I have group with other
> clerics before who do
> >exactly what you said you hate about them. Yes, it
> is a low lvl
> >thing...and
> >I tend to tell them that they need to sit their
> butt down, med, and watch
> >the health bars, and for god sake dont let that
> health drops below
> >50%...esp
> >for casters. So I think if you want to help the
> general well being of your
> >server...you should take the time and just tell
> these inexperience clerics
> >what their main duty is in the group...you never
> know, they might become
> >your regular cleric...and won't you rather have one
> who you know you can
> >trust?
> >
> >
> >-Imogen
> >
> >
> >> Hi all :)
> >>
> >> I've played clerics in the past, and when I was
> grouped, I knew my job,
> >> and did it very well. I buffed the tanks before
> battle, watched their
> >> health bars carefully during battle, and (at
> levels before 25) engaged
> >> in a bit of melee if things were going well. No
> one had to ask me for a
> >> heal. I mean, come on. When you go to the doctor,
> should it be necesary
> >> for you to ask him to heal you? Hell, no. That's
> his job, for pete's
> >> sake.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I have recently been playing a barbarian
> warrior, because I knew
> >> that I wanted to continue to melee, which would
> be a no-no for my cleric
> >> at higher levels. Now, however, I'm finding it
> very difficult to find
> >> good clerics to group with. My warrior is level
> 19 now, and I can
> >> honestly say that I've yet to find a cleric who
> knows what the hell he's
>
>=====