I'd have to agree. Bellow is a useful spell for soloing, or when in a two
bard group and you can't find six better songs to twine (not facing
casters). Its not a lot of use in groups which is where bards are best. It
would be nice if like kick it could interrupt casters, but that only happens
in PvP if they get knocked back that little bit. Kinda sad though that one
of the main reasons Verant insists bards don't get bows is because it would
make kiting too easy. Not sure how it would be any easier than with Bellow
and accellerando, a little faster maybe with bows outdamaging Bellow, but
I'd think the cost of the arrows would offset that.
I see no reason to have Bellow's damage increased, there are other issues
pertinent to the bard class that have far more merit than Bellow doing weak
damage. I still can't figure why the other classes that everyone (including
Verant) says are hybrids get 5 or 6 melee skills over and above Dodge, and
we get only the one. You'd think we'd get some magical skills to
compensate, but we don't even get the benefit of a swifter memorization from
meditate. Heck it takes me longer to memorize my highest level spell than
it does our cleric to memorize all eight of his spells.
Kitasi
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Sheppard [mailto:
mrwayne@...]
Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 2:22 PM
To:
eqbards@onelist.com
Subject: [eqbards] RE: Bellow song Damage
From: "Wayne Sheppard" <
mrwayne@...>
John,
I don't think your idea has a snowball's chance in 4377.
I think you are relying too much on Bellow. Bards have many other songs
that can be of better use. If you want to solo, there are many other ways
to do so. Bellow is just like the kick that Warriors get, nothing too
powerful, just a bit of extra added damage. Don't expect Bellow to be your
main damage source.
Maybe instead of struggling soloing blues, you should try grouping for a
change. Bards are very effective in a group, as long as you don't continue
to Bellow.
Wayne
PS - My most frustrating experience with a Bard was when I was playing my
Cleric and grouped with four tanks (War, War, Ranger, Pally) all around lvl
16. We were fighting crocs in the Oasis. I was just thinking how we could
rock with a Bard, when there was a lvl 17 Bard needing a group. This Bard
kept using Bellow constantly. I tried and tried to explain to him how much
more effective we would be if he played group songs to no avail. I really
wanted to cry.
> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:03:35 +0000
> From: John_Senior@...
> Subject: RE: Bellow song Damage
>
> I being a level 27 Bard probably use Bellow more than any other song as
> that little extra dmg is great. However I do feel that this song should do
> more dmg than just the 1/2 level +1. It's quite pathetic to think that at
> level 50 you will only do 26 DMG with it. Currently I am doing 14 dmg and
> it's good but not good enough to solo stuff without having lots of
> downtime.
>
> Personally I feel that Bellow should be current Level +1 dmg so for
example
> at my level (27) I would do 28 dmg per bellow, or as another formula have
> 1/2 current level + 5 dmg and an extra 5 dmg every 10 levels, so at level
> 12 you do 1/2 level +5 dmg and then at level 22 you do 1/2 Level +10 dmg
> and so on. this would not be over powered when you consider what other
> melee classes get. We have not got Kick, Double attack, bash and don't get
> Critical hits etc. Plus we can't use 2 handed weapons.
>
> The only problem I can see with Bellow doing more dmg is that people will
> kite as a bard with a great deal of ease (I kited Born D'inn at level 22
> and it took me 35 minutes to kill him).
>
> I know Bards aren't supposed to be hardened fighters I just feel we lack
> that cutting edge.
>
> Is there anyway that if everyone on this list agrees with me or if they
> have another formula suggestion that we could petition verant and get it
> changed? Or are verant only into 'Nerfing'??
>
> Madagan, who struggles to solo blues
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