> Still, I leave those groups as soon as I can. The fact is that they
> are dead wrong to think that the mana song is the only useful thing
> that I can play, and I don't like being in a group that is both stupid
> and insistent that I go along with their stupidity. Those are the
> groups that get me killed.

Amen brother, if I am getting beat down constantly, I will leave.
But if the group is working good enough, and the exp is rolling
in decently, with little downtime. I'll save my bardic speech
for another time. I'll be the first to jet, if things suck.

In the immortal words of Beavis, "Change it Butthead."

> Mes, it's still darned useful. In Lower Guk (savant, exe, scribe
> rooms), at level 34, I was getting about 50% resists. This shuts
> down half of the goblins

frogloks ;p I'll have to return to Guk to re-evalute the song.
In the lord room, I got my ass seriously kicked when I tried to
sleep frogs.

No disrespect meant song brother. Just trying to cut the illusion
we often give of ourselves as being slightly more powerful than
we are in reality. After all, we are storytellers, and we have
to make ourselves look good in the public eye. If you didnt solo
like 5 hill giants at once with half your hp, and two rusty
daggers, what good are you?

Just like that one bard claiming to solo hill giants using charm
at level 30. I think that was a pretty tall tale. Ask Sylly how
her charming experience went when she was doing it at level 34.
But, hell, it sure sounded good! Impress your friends ;-)

Harmonic.