The Gm's are not allowed to help in that situation, if theydothey could
literally get their privelages as a guide removed.

Naeeldar

-----Original Message-----
From: Michal Hobson <given@...>
To: eqbards@onelist.com <eqbards@onelist.com>
Date: Sunday, December 05, 1999 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Bard Handicap of Sorts

>From: "Michal Hobson" <given@...>
>
>Jeez that sounds familiar. Same thing happened to a ranger and a warrior
>from my guild. Same spot and all. And in our situation, the GM's still
>said tough sh*t. We finally managed to do the CR after a 6 hour stint with
>the help of a level 30 something Shaman and Druid. It was a nightmare.
>Glad it worked out for you.
>
>Weiland
><Disciples of Truth>
>Erollisi Marr
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Daniel P. Sniderman" <fuzzbone@...>
>To: "EQ Bards" <eqbards@onelist.com>
>Sent: Sunday, December 05, 1999 2:15 PM
>Subject: [eqbards] Bard Handicap of Sorts
>
>
>> I guess my brother-in-law would prefer if I said =
>> "Differently-abled".. but anyhow - another situation where an advantage

>> sort of works to our disadvantage..
>>
>> I had the nastiest of nasty corpse retrieval problems in lava in Sol

>> A. Last week I fell in lava (not sure how it happened - I think it was =
>> lag relate.. So never having been in that situation I start running =
>> (swimming?) through the lava to try to find a way out. Can't figure it =
>> out - so I try to retrace my steps and eventually die. I petition to =
>> try get help - and the guide says no more than "get a friend to help". =
>> I had a gig Tuesday night so I had to leave..
>>
>> After my Wednesday gig - I come on at 1:00 AM and my west-coast =
>> Druid buddy is about to log - so he agrees to help me. He casts =
>> levitate on me and I start looking for my corpse. He gets attacked and =
>> has to zone. I find corpse - and try to drag it out - and realize there

>> is a zone to Sol B in the lava (not marked on any maps I've seen btw). =
>> Zone back - try to drag it the other way - and to my horror - I discover

>> there's a waterfall (or should I say lava-fall type thing) that I can't =
>> climb over. Basically there is no way out of the lava in that area. =
>> I'm not sure what to do - so I start to loot my corpse when levitate =
>> wears off and I die - with my stuff split between two corpses. My Druid

>> buddy has to log - so I put it off till later.
>>
>> Another gig Thursday - late one - so I can't get on after. I had a =
>> date Friday - and a gig Saturday (great week huh - four gigs and a =
>> date!) but I got home again around 1:00 AM last night. I petition for =
>> help - and all the guide says is - "Get a Wizard or Druid with group =
>> gate to get out". Wonderful. My Druid buddy had just logged - and =
>> someone in my guild mentions he's not going to be back until Wednesday =
>> (which turned out to untrue - but whatever).. I start to panic because =
>> my corpse will disappear on Tuesday (they only last a week right?) I =
>> start telling a paladin friend - who mentions he has a Druid character.
>>
>> So we meet up - but we get separated - I get lost and death number 3

>> (And I whole bubble of XP gone <sigh>). Run back from my bind point at =
>> Highkeep and try again. This time we get to the corpse. Okay cool - I =
>> loot it and say "Okay Gate us out". And then has says "We need group =
>> gate?" I say "Sh*t, I thought I explained that" "You said that was =
>> your plan with the other Druid, but I assumed if we could get in we =
>> could get out" "Didn't you hear me say we couldn't?" "No I must have =
>> been zoning when you said that"
>>
>> So then I say "Oh no my levitate ran out" So he casts mine as his =
>> runs out. Tries to cast his own, fizzle, fizzle, he dies. So there I =
>> am in the lava - can't get up the Lavafall - Can't gate out. Then I =
>> remember the zone boundary there. I have a fresh levitate - so I have =
>> plenty of time - figure if I can't find a way in Sol B - I can at least =
>> zone back and be no worse than I was before (a bit better since only one

>> corpse).
>>
>> As it turns out - with Levitate - there was no problem getting to =
>> dry land in Sol B. The only problem I had there was that the higher =
>> level characters there were pretty much jerks and completely ignored my =
>> please to show me to the zone. Eventually I find a nice guy who does so

>> and I'm to safety.
>>
>> Meanwhile my Group-gate-less Druid buddy died trying to find the =
>> corpse on his own (didn't remember to ask me if I took loc). So I give =
>> him the loc - and tell him I'll help him with locate. So we are about =
>> to try again when the server crashes. By this point it's 3:00 AM and I =
>> tired. We both do get in - but there are like only 500 people on - and =
>> I decide a) I'm too tired and b) too few people on - with all the Gob =
>> Casters that have see invis - we'll get attacked.
>>
>> Okay - assuming you're still reading this you're wondering what the =
>> hell the Subject has to do with the story - so finally I can get to the =
>> point. I log this morning at the set time I told him I would to help =
>> him get to his corpse - and he's already on (in his primary char) and to

>> make another long story short (I can do so when I really want to!) he =
>> had a GM retrieve his corpse for him.
>>
>> I start to get angry about this - why did they help him and not me?

>> Basically - he did find the corpse - and could drag it - but he couldn't

>> loot it. Being at the bottom of lava - there was no way he could target

>> it. No target no loot. I was easily able to target it by using the =
>> locate song. So in a sense - by having the locate song - we were able =
>> to avoid a situation where other players can get GMs to help them get =
>> their corpse. We never have it easy <sigh>
>>
>> Well anyway - I was ready to quit the game if I lost all my items; =
>> and while I'm a full bar of XP back - I have my stuff; my friend has his

>> stuff - and I can go back to trying to get to level 32 so everyone will =
>> love me!
>>
>> Slyde - 29 of Xegony
>>
>>
>>
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