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Message ID: 11244
Date: Mon Dec 6 05:17:08 GMT 1999
Author: Daniel P. Sniderman
Subject: Re: Bard Handicap of Sorts


Not sure if you are responding to my original - or a subsequent.. But you
are COMPLETELY wrong about GM's and Guides only helping due to a "verifiable
bug".

But I didn't complain that they didn't help me - but that they help everyone
else in that situation. In the past 24 hours I've grouped with three count
em three people (counting my initial friend) who got their corpses moved by
GM's because they couldn't target them. They spent maybe 40-60 minutes at
corpse retrieval when I spent literally 5-6 hours. I guess in hindsight I
could have lied and said I couldn't target the corpse and see if they knew
enough about bards to tell me to sing the song. These other people
certainly could have been forced to go to Freeport and buy a chipped bone
staff and done a corpse locate that way and targeted - but that didn't occur
to the GM's either.

I don't think the GM's spent any time even verifying these peoples
complaints. They just popped in and move the Corpse right next to the zone
entrance.

More to the point - my problem wasn't getting to the corpse - but getting
the corpse out of lava. I think it's a stupid level design. Especially
given that things have been so laggy lately it makes it quite easy to
misstep.

That's what I'm complaining about...
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Keith <kalekona@...>
To: <eqbards@onelist.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 1999 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Bard Handicap of Sorts


> From: Randy Keith <kalekona@...>
>
> Why is it that people seem to have it in thier head that GM's and Guides
must help you if you cannot get
> your corpse?
>
> The ONLY reason they assist in corpse retreival is if it is stuck in a
wall. Or fallen through the world.
> Or lost due to a verifiable bug.
>
> If you fall in lava. It is YOUR responsibility to get it back. (Hope you
made friends)
>
> To say that GM's are worthless cause they told you "tough sh*t" is lke
saying "Dang. I cut my toe off with
> this knife. Perhaps I should sue the hospital cause they can't put it back
on."
>
> If you plan to play around dragons, lava, gods. You SHOULD expect trouble.
>
> I have died underneath Nagafen, but have still gotten my corpse. I have
had guildmates lose thier corpses
> on the other side of Fear. I have had guildmates lose corpses "I forgot
where" in Sol B. But they have all
> been retrieved. No GM was even called because they all were of our own
doing. (Lag related or not).
>
> What you need is a group of people that you can trust to assist you when
the chips are down.
>
> Perhaps it is just me, but, if you lose your corpse in lava, don't go
crying about the GM's not running to
> your aid. They are not supposed to help you.
>
> Take responsibility of your own problems. If the problem is indeed a bug,
then by all means call a GM.
>
> > Please send submissions for the eqbards newsletter to lol@...
with the subject submissions.
>