I am not a member of their guild, but let's look at it this way.
In a previous message defending their guild, they said they provide quite a
few items a newbie could use, like patchwork armor and the first few songs.
That is probably worth quite a bit right there. Also, they provide a drum at
5 and a lute at 8. Again, they cost money too. The weekly prize they offer
(he said it varies but it was a banded tunic the other day) is very
expensive and time consuming to make (I know since I'm trying to be a smith)
and to buy it would cost over 10 pp, unless you got lucky. So, I don't
really think it's unreasonable to charge that much since they are buying for
you many items you would normally have to buy yourself. And the high joining
fee they have ensures that only people who really want to be in their guild
join.
Finally, does anyone know how much a guild hall will cost? I've heard rumors
of 10,000 plat to start and some sort of weekly upkeep. This would make
sense since some of the best armor in the game is in the 1,000 plat range
and you wouldn't want a building to be cheaper than armor. heheheh. Any
other guild aspiring to have a hall needs to keep that in mind before they
say being a member should be free.
The Mystery Minstrel of Mithaniel Marr
-----Original Message-----
From: Curt_Bowers [mailto:
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Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 8:52 PM
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Subject: [eqbards] Re: The Soerbaird and more?
From: "Curt_Bowers" <
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Hail to all fellow Bards of the relm,
I would like to take this moment to introduce myself. I am Phaedrus,
Half-Elven Bard of Qeynos in the relm of Bertoxxulous. I would also like to
thank the greater powers for providing us with this forum so that we may
discuss matters among our peers.
I now have just a couple of questions. First regarding the Soerbaird
Guild. I am very proud that members of my calling would have such
altruistic ideals, but I would like to ask how newer students could afford
10 PP? I have just recently achieved the 7th level of ascendance and I
don't think I have ever had 10 PP. Of course money has never been high on
my list priorities. I tend to lean toward the virtues of Wine, Women and
Song.
I would also like to ask why if we are able to build bows and arrows,
why are we not able to use them? One stringed instrument is like another
after all.
I look forward to hearing from you all.
Phaedrus
Half-Elven Bard and bane of all Gnoll Kind.
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From: Gabriel <
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Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 8:13 PM
Subject: [eqbards] Re: The Soerbaird
>From: "Gabriel" <gdiaz@...>
>
>It's a bit depressing to hear someone toss about unfounded slander like
that
>without really thinking about the affects. Sure, you can say the price is
>excessive, but you outright accused them of being greedy without bothering
>to find out what they do with it. Maybe you should have suggested some
>other plan instead? Screaming "bullcrap," and "greedy rogues" won't do a
>thing except hurt their image, and really they haven't done anything wrong.
>If you don't like it, you don't have to join. Once you join, you can
always
>leave.
>
>I have personally met Jythri, Ixtlan, and a few other members. Jythri was
>excellent company, and offered me help immediatly. Later, when I needed
>help and he wasn't available, a friend of his was more than willing to help
>me. Ixtlan, a level 7 bard at the time I believe, took me from Freeport to
>Halas without charge. He intended to just come back afterwords too. That
>has to be a two hour trip, even with accelerando. That is what Jythri was
>talking about. Shirt off his back! I can assure you, all other members of
>the Soerbaird that I met were just as nice.
>
>No, I am NOT a Soerbaird member, or am I associated with them in any way,
>excluding my admiration to their fine group.
>
>I am proud to know the Soerbaird are out there to lend a helping hand.
>Good luck!
>
>Gabriel (Kelvin on Fenin Rowe, level 7 bard)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Randy Varnell <rvarnell@...>
>To: eqbards@onelist.com <eqbards@onelist.com>
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>Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 10:47 PM
>Subject: [eqbards] Re: The Soerbaird
>
>
>>From: Randy Varnell <rvarnell@...>
>>
>>Ralborn:
>>
>>I appreciate your concern, and I know that ten platinum is a hefty sum.
>>But, as I responded to you privately, the funds are not misused nor are
>>they squandered. Running a guild has its expenses, especially if we are to
>>provide collective services for our bards so that they might carry on
their
>>work with honor and dignity.
>>
>>As I mentioned to you before, lad, we provide the following services to
our
>>members:
>> * Patchwork armor for all new students
>> * The first five levels of songs for all new students
>> * A hand drum at level 5
>> * A lute at level 8
>> * Bi-weekly rewards for the best in-guild ballad or writing. This week
>> it was a Banded mail tunic.
>>
>>Also, we use the money to pay for other expenses, including:
>> * Staff for concerts
>> * Saving for a guild hall
>> * Prizes for other Soerbaird events
>>
>>We do not use guild money for:
>> * Buying better armor or equipment for guild leadership
>> * Bribing news sites for better placement
>> * Paying necromancers to destory anyone who speaks negatively
>> about The Soerbaird
>>
>>For the public record, all of our staff, called Ollave, have more than
paid
>>their ten platinum, without a complaint, and most of them continue to
>>contribute into the guild treasury on a daily basis, in order to benefit
>>our students. I have seen several of them give the shirts off of their
>>backs and the weapons from their fists to help a deserved student in need.
>>
>>Doerbaird, before you sally our guild's reputation again in a public
forum,
>>I would respectfully request that you air your differences with me, as I
>>will be happy to hear any problem you have with our guild.
>>
>>Listen and Live.
>>
>>-- Jythri, Pencerdd of The Soerbaird
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Joe Racke <joe_racke@...>
>>>
>>>Is it just me or is Soerbairds guild a rip off....I really want to know
>>>why the heck it costs 10plat plus a monthly fee to join...thats a load
>>>of Bull crap.....I was going to join but then i found i had better
>>>things to do than pay to those greedy rogues....If you give me enough
>>>information on that guild and why it costs so much then i might join it
>>>until then.....keep begging Soerbairds.
>>>
>>>
>>>This is Ralborn Songbearer ending his song
>>>
>>>Ralborn
>>>Bard of Qeynos
>>>follower of Bristlebane
>>>(also in his world)
>>
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