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Message ID: 11301
Date: Mon Dec 6 18:05:10 GMT 1999
Author: silky@xxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: RE: Bard sit in or Mana Song walkout or whatever (long, possibly rant ish)


Hmmm, maybe if someone told verant I use Lullaby to help out lowlevel folks
they'd get off the stick.

Go to CB - fire it up when a train comes - newbies LOVE it. As it seems to
most often misfire now - I'm taking the heat - big deal, if they can't hit
ya, they can't hurt ya. If it worked as intended, I still wouldn't take any
damage, the area would just be a bit quieter.

Bard hatred is hard on folks that play the game the way Verant intended -
GET TO LEVEL 50!. I don't care if I EVER reach level 50, I have too much
fun helping lower level folks, and bard hatred is THE best tool in the game
when helping a newbie - while still letting them do the work.

Gee - think they might rethink that whole bard hate thing cause of this,
muhahaha.


At 10:09 AM 12/6/99 -0700, you wrote:
>From: "Kimes, Dean W." <Dean_Kimes@...>
>
>From: SteelWolf <steelwolf@...>
>
>If you aren't able to effective employ Lullaby, or it seems ineffectual,
>ask constructively how others use it in this forum. Personally when I
>solo, if there is any chance I'll fight a caster, Lullaby is memm'd. It
>
>So now you're trying to tell me Lullaby is only for interrupting casters?
>Not true, when it works it definitely causes a mob to stand there and do
>nothing until hit or the duration ends. However, it is broken. Perhaps
>last nights example can make this clear to you. I was running thru BB and
>paused to watch a couple of people fighting near the entrance in case they
>need help. After a bit I punched up a song to run again and hit the wrong
>button, Lullaby. I got the following, obviously incorrect results.
>
> A gnoll pup nods
> A gnoll pup nods
> A gnoll pup nods
>
>The incorrect part is the three gnoll pups then ran over to me and started
>attacking immediately. The song did absolutely nothing to the gnoll pups
>except add me to their hate list. Absolutely nothing. As soon as the
>effect hit them they zipped over to me and started attacking. I stood there
>with the song up waiting just for experimentation. It took 12 pulses, all
>successful nods by the way, no resists, before all three gnoll pups stopped
>attacking. Now no matter what class I was playing if I cast a spell on a
>mob and got the message showing it failed to resist and the song had no
>effect I would be upset. The majority of my issues have as little to do
>with the bard class specifically as with Verant's attitude towards bugs in
>general. If they are beneficial fix them immediately! If they are
>negative, fix them when they get around to it. This attitude is compounded
>by the fact that Verant very apparently never, ever, considers the effects
>of their code changes on bards. I mean wtf? It took them 6 months of our
>saying that Alenia's did not do anything before they bothered to look into
>it? Had someone instead complained that Alenia's was removing all buffs
>from every mob in the zone about 1 time in 1000 it would have been looked
>into instantly and an immediate patch put in if it was found to be true.
>Being versatile is no recompense for being ignored and dismissed as
>unimportant.
>
> Kitasi
>
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