Well, consider this - you hear about some item that is good to have. You get
your group and go get it (brand new PoF, Assn room 2 to 6 hour camp, early
Dragoon Dirk when DVinn dropped one every time, whatever) and you kill the
mob and get your loot. Who is to say that you knew it was a bug? Aside
from 'duping' items with buggy trade windows or whatever, if the game gives
it to you, it should be yours - imho. If they think something needs to be
changed, I favor the method of not dropping the item any more - ala
manastones.

All this stuff about 'class balance' and whether an item is 'bugged' (guise
lets you get the spell even if you cant wear it - which you need to do to
get the stats) is a matter of opinion. If the game lets you do it - it's
legal (aside from real cheats like duping). To make it 'illegal' after the
fact and magically change the items, will just hurt the players who have
them and not help the ones who don't. (This is sounding a lot like
'twinking' good or bad arguments but let's not go there ;p) I don't think
its fair to change stuff because they think it "should be." It's like their
nerfing of Selo's and breaking roots - they gave you something and it was
good - but now they think its too good and nerf it. Now it's getting down to
a matter of opinion on what is good, too good, or 'obvious bug.'

"But Sylly, what about all those DE Pallidans and DE Barbarian Shamans???
That is not good Role Play!!" Ahh, enter the rp police. BAH! So what if a
Pally looks like a DE? That's a lot better than the Pally's who don't heal
others, who don't help others, who are just jerks in general. That's true
bad role play - but nothing can be done to stop that so fussing about some
goofy mask with an illusion spell is hardly going to fix all or even any
significant amount of bad rp problems.

Sylly Songsynger
<Spirit of the Moon>
Bard of the 38th song
somewhere on Innoruuk

-----Original Message-----
From: kim@... [mailto:kim@...]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 11:23 AM
To: eqbards@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Re:Re: Guise of the Deceiver
(Longish)

From: <kim@...>

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 firehawk@... wrote:
>
> decided it was too useful. The Guise on the other hand
> was an abused item. For as long as I have known about the

Personally, if an item is no-drop (so trades are a
non-issue)
and it's obvious the benefit is due to a bug (guise, warrior
PoF armor), then I say fix it and who cares about the
complaints from those who would exploit obvious bugs.