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Message ID: 12224
Date: Wed Dec 29 09:51:41 GMT 1999
Author: hho@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xx
Subject: Re: Do I ever have a chance at making high level?


Wow This sounds so much like me. Galtin!!
I have been playing Musiker the woodelf bard since day one Bertox was made (Even
played in beta, so I dident fool much around with classes)
He is now 27th level and the only other char I have played above level 4 is a
level 10 troll SK (on a bertox) and the ranger lvl 8 I started out with playing
on Fennin Ro, but living without Accelrando just isent worth it, hehe.
I think your observations are true and would like to add that I also have had
great fun doing the lambent quests. Sneaking into LGuk at 26th is hair raising,
I just wished that the armor was no drop too. So everyone one would know that I
had gathered all the pieces myself.... I really dont understand why only the
components are no drop. Now that I only lack to get the gauntlets boots and
helmet (doubt I will be wearing that bird *g*), I have slowed down and is
concentrating on gaining some levels. More of these quests would be great as it
is a good way for us casual players to get upgrades. I did the langeseax quest a
couple of times and got a LoW which I traded for a crystalline blade (dam11
del38 I think). I sold it to get money for the rubies to my lambent BP when I
had aquired all the other parts. Now Im using a Silvery axe and the good ole
dragoon dirk. The morale is though - it is possible for the casual player to
make money (still have 500+PP in bank) and get good items. You just have to be
more creative *g*. A good guild is also a way for players like us to get to the
better equipment.

Anyways quests are fun when the reward is good, but there has to be some kind of
control with the rewards, I mean look at how the langeseax quest has degraded
the worth of a quite fine Warrior weapon. The quest was/is great fun to do, but
I dont think people should be able to do it over and over again (Yes I have done
the quest 8 or 9 times which yelded 2 LoW's).

Musiker Silverdrum <The Guardians of the Divine Light>, WEL bard of the 27th
song, Bertoxxoulus.

http://www.fran6.com/Divine_Light/


Message: 10
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 09:45:34 -1000
From: "Reece, Tom - 25IDL G4" <g4mntofcr@...>
Subject: Do I ever have a chance at making high level?

I agree with everything Crier said. One thing I would like to add is a
comment on obtaining good items. Like the original poster, I don't get to
play that often. My bard is my only character and I've been playing him
since April. When I do play, I only get to play for a couple hours at a
time. I'm only 29th level, but I assume that what Crier said about high
level mobs ripping you to shreds if you don't have good equipment is true.
With that out of the way...

IMO, players like me and the original poster are handicapped when it comes
to obtaining the really good magic items. In order to obtain those items,
several factors come into play. First off, if you want to get the items by
yourself, you have to be able to camp the spawn long enough. Many of the
items are rare drops so that could mean anywhere from a couple of hours
during one playing session (if you are extremely lucky) or several hours
over multiple playing sessions.

2d factor: IMO its a lot easier to camp the good magic item spawn sites when
you are in a well balanced group of players who all know how to work
together effectively. This is difficult for the casual gamer because most
of the friends he makes in game usually end up surpassing him in levels.
End result is that casual gamers tend to join pickup groups most of the
time. In my experience, I die more often in these types of groups because
everyone seems to have their own agenda. There is a side bonus to this
however. Because you are usually camping with new players all the time, you
do have the benefit of continually making new friends, which is always a
good thing.

3d factor: The people who are able to acquire good items are usually not
inclined to sell them, preferring trades instead. This hampers the casual
gamer assuming factors #1 and #2 come into play. This hasn't hampered me
too much in my mid 20s because all my money I have earned since 25th level
as gone to acquiring gems for the lambent armor. Once I get all my lambent
pieces, I want to upgrade my weapons. I'm still using a dragoon dirk and
thulian claws. I haven't seen anyone selling weapons better than those in a
long time. Lot of people willing to trade them for items of equal power
though.

The lambent quests are perfect for the casual gamer. These quests allow us
to get good items at our own pace. If Verant would only put in more quests
for mid to high level weapons and other non-class armor equipment I would be
a happy camper.

Bottom line is even though IMO casual gamers get the short end of the stick
when it comes to getting good items, I still have fun playing. Like others
have said its not a race to get to 50.

Galtin of E'ci