On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Bearil Wargsblood wrote:

> Well, stuns do have their uses. However, Togors is much more efficent
> Manawise. Sure you can chain stun a mob into submission, but at a
> staggering mana cost.

Well, if you're in a position where you have to chain stun a
mob, then by definition the fight is long, enough where like I
said a slowdown like Togors is more important. :)

> Yep, a lot of fights are counted in seconds at lower levels. However when
> you start fighting mobs that double attack for 120 and have 8,000 hit points,
> slowdowns are increasingly nessecary. A Mob with Togors is like hitting
> them with a continuous six second stun for 175 mana.

I wasn't trying to downplay the role of slowdowns. I was just
pointing out the differences between slowing a mob's attacks,
and stopping them entirely (stun). Each have their place, and
effectively using them hinges on the player's ability to
correctly identify when one or the other will work better.
Defensively, I classify stuns with heals and rune - you can
use it to save someone's life. Slowdowns I classify as
battle-time-management (attack speedups, mesmerize, regen,
DoTs, wizard option to unload nukes, etc).

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John H. Kim
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