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Message ID: 12540
Date: Wed Jan 5 21:29:10 GMT 2000
Author: Kimes, Dean W.
Subject: RE: Dual Bard Invisibility Question


That would seem to indicate you could not stand in front of any aggressive
mob while playing invis. When the song visibly pulsed he would attack you.
Since this does not happen, I have one theory why not which explains another
peculiarity I noticed. It seems that mobs rather than having an agro
refresh rate, have an agro scan rate. Each pulse the mob checks to see if
anything is in his agro range that he wants to attack. Unless this happens
to pulse just when your invis pulses he will never see you. The other thing
I noticed is that I have many times now run directly under Griffennes at
full speed trying to pull them back to a group, only to have to circle
around and do it again because the Griffenne apparently did not see me the
first time. I can only conjecture that I was running so fast I cleared the
Griff's agro radius before his agro pulsed a second time.

Kit

-----Original Message-----
From: kim@... [mailto:kim@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 11:01 AM
To: eqbards@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Dual Bard Invisibility Question


On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Bill Mann wrote:
>
> I encountered this also when I was camping the Icy Greaves in Perma a
while
> back. Another bard and I were grouped, I sang Invis while he sang See
> Invis. Both seemed to stack with each other nicely

Ok, I was grouped with another bard last night in Mistmoore
and got to test this. Mind you I had "other bard spam" turned
off so I'm mostly basing this on the icons that showed up on
my screen (it was a spur of the moment testing, not planned).

Other bard was playing Hymn. Someone yells train. I start
Invis. All of us flicker out of view well before the train
arrives. I tell him to turn off his song NOW. Unfortunately
by the time I finished typing that and he turned his song off,
the train has passed and gone to the zone. We sit tight,
invisible, hoping they didn't see us. The train runs back
down and makes a beeline for the bard playing Hymn. (We
barely get out, he dies.) There is some debate as to whether
the train actually saw him playing Hymn, or if invis dropped
on him due to PL.

I'd died earlier (stupid gargoyle got a double hit for max
damage on me just as I was about to hit the zone) and needed
to loot my corpse. A lot of people are parked outside in LFay
so I asked the same bard to play invisibility to let me check
inside for a train. I zone in, no train. I begin to loot,
grab my mino horn, equip it, and play invis. Other bard zones
in, starts up invis himself. People bring a minor train to
the zone. I finish looting and watch. Target a mob and start
/conning it over and over.

Mind you, this is me and the other bard both playing invis at
the same time. *Every* time the song graphics were present
(glowing ball), the mob /conned "ready to attack." The moment
the song animation ended, the mob /conned "indifferent." I
hit the /con button over and over for 2 or 3 pulses and it
switched between "indifferent" and "ready to attack"
completely in synch with whether or not the song graphics were
present.

--
John H. Kim
kim@...


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