On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Blitz Krieg wrote:
> From: "Blitz Krieg" <blitz_krieg@...>
>
>> I hate to say this but Invis to undead is pointless. Sonorious
>> Clouding -IS- invisibility to live or Undead with modification to level. I
>> have at level 22 walked completely unmolested though Unrest mansion with it
>
> I don't buy into the theory that mobs get a saving throw to detect
> invisibility. If they can see invis, they see invis. If they can't, and
> you're wearing it, you're invis. I've walked unmolested thru the toes of
> Ice Giants in Permafrost to recover a friends corpse at level 27. I've also
With my enchanter, young kodiaks could see through my invis
right up until they turned blue. At that level, blue young
kodiaks were indifferent, but white and yellow young kodiaks
were threatening. It *is* modified on level, and varies from
creature to creature. Just because it works against L40+ ice
giants doesn't mean it'll work against L35 greater kobolds.
There may or may not be a saving throw aspect to it. After
running around a lot in Mistmoore while invis, accidently
causing 3 trains, and being unable to figure out a pattern, it
finally hit me that some mobs are casting see invis on
themselves at random. I /conned a thought spoiler as ready to
attack, while other thought spoilers were indifferent. This
may be what's going on in the lower guk live side as well.
I've had a lot of invis "failures" there too.
Our invis *is* both invis and invis vs. undead, but the invis
vs. undead is weaker than the spell version. It's not enough
to hide you from some undead at certain levels, and it's not
enough to hide you from some undead at all levels.
What I *really* want is a combo invis/see invis song. GZ's
answer regarding this is BS. If it's supposed to be to our
advantage that we can see the glowing balls (which give you
away in PvP), then it can't hurt to add a see invis
component. Make it a see-only-party-invis if you have to.
--
John H. Kim
kim@...