Ok, that's not a problem. First, they haven't successfully implemented any
new quests a 21st level bard can do in a very long time. I've tried a
couple they did add to see if they might be viable, but both were broken so
I couldn't even find out if they were of an appropriate level for me. I've
done every other quest, or gotten as far as I could in them, that I might be
able to do.
On the area of zones. Yes, I can hunt on reaver hill. Mistmoore is too
deadly for me as higher levels train things out of the castle too frequently
to make the entry area safe. Unrest is packed, last three times I was there
there were 50+ people in them. Sol A and Sol B are obviously beyond my
groups ability at 21-24. Haven't tried Paw since they lowered the
difficulty but there was no way before. Befallen is also fairly crowded and
most everything there is too low to give me much xp anyhow. Tried hunting
skeletons in rathe but there were too many groups there as well. Went to S
Karana but there were 75+ people there mostly hunting aviaks. Maybe there
are some other places I have not found yet, but since I play mostly in mst
prime-time I unfortunately have to play at the most crowded time. Guess
what? So does everyone else who is a 2-3 hr a day, 3-4 day a week player
like me. Also most of them are between 18-33 level or so. That means that
the times I can play are most crowded for the level I am. A lot of times
when I am on there is no one in Kithicor and I have seen as few as 12 in
Lower Guk. I guess a lot of the higher level players on E'ci play later
than I do maybe. I went into L Guk a month ago and there were 6 players at
7pm, but at midnite when I logged off there were 35. I don't think crowding
is limited to level 46+, but since so much xp is required at that level
range, any overcrowding is painful. Also it would be easier if I was
playing a class with downtime. When I play y enchanter or druid the
crowding seldom bothers me as I spend enough time medding that its not as
big a deal. The group my bard plays with though has so little downtime that
we waste a lot of time when we are fully capable of knocking something off,
only there isn't anything available. That frustration has cost me more
guildmates than I care to think about.
Its really frustrating hearing about all the new quests on the plane of sky
when quests are my favorite part of the game. Lame as many of them are they
are still more fun than camping.
Just my 2cp,
Kit
-----Original Message-----
From: Naeeldar [mailto:
jackal@...]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 11:37 AM
To:
eqbards@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
From: "Naeeldar" <
jackal@...>
I know but believe me what do you low levels need a change of pace? You have
multiple dungeons. I don't care for a change of pace all I want is to be
less crowded and they can change that with more zones. You guys have so many
options of zone that it's not even funny but lets say for 46+ we have the 3
planes now and sol b and guk. But wait there are people 30+ in guk and sol
b. So all we really have is 3 zones. Now for 30ish people you have a variety
of outdoor zones, for dungeons you have permafrost, CT, Unrest, MM, Sol A,
Guk, Lower Guk, Sol B. See the problem? I play a mid level char a 50 char
and a low level char and there are no problems with the low or mid levle
chars. High level chars there is a problem though. It's not like were
complaining we need a change of pace we want something new for the hell of
it we don't but you are. Seriously what problems do you have at mid or low
levels? Not many high levels are plagued with overcrowded. Hell I love the
lower guk zone and I'd be happy if they just duplicated the zone a bunch of
times. Seriously though how about you list me a couple of problems you low
mid levels have.
Naeeldar
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimes, Dean W. <
Dean_Kimes@...>
To: '
eqbards@onelist.com' <
eqbards@onelist.com>
Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>From: "Kimes, Dean W." <Dean_Kimes@...>
>
>Actually I think Verant is missing the point there. They will never be
able
>to do enough to keep up with the level 50 players unless they totally
ignore
>the lower level players. The majority of the level 50 players play the
game
>far too much for Verant to be able to keep up wit providing them new stuff.
>Although those players play the game more they don't pay any more than the
>lower level players. I have lost close to 20 guild members just in my
guild
>because they were tired of Verant only doing things for level 46+ players.
>Eventually at this rate Verant will only have those level 46+ players left.
>
> Kit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dark [mailto:jackal@...]
>Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 9:58 PM
>To: eqbards@onelist.com
>Subject: Re: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>
>
>From: "Dark" <jackal@...>
>
>Actually you get to play a new class so not boring. They have to fix
>overcrowding with high levels first and their is no reason they should
>bother with anything else until that happens otherwise Verant will lose a
>good percentage of their customers.
>
>Naeeldar
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Reece, Tom - 25IDL G4 <g4mntofcr@...>
>To: eqbards@onelist.com <eqbards@onelist.com>
>Date: Friday, January 21, 2000 5:48 PM
>Subject: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>
>
>>From: "Reece, Tom - 25IDL G4" <g4mntofcr@...>
>>
>>I think I stated pretty clearly in my original post that I'm glad Verant
is
>>giving the high level characters something to do. This might keep you
guys
>>busy until expansion.
>>
>>My points about neglecting 46- level characters is still valid however.
>>Since this game has been out, players have consistently begged Verant to
>add
>>more quality quests to the game. With the exception of the class armor
>>quests, most of the other quests for low and medium level characters flat
>>out suck and aren't worth the time and effort. Is it too much to expect
>>that as the game evolves over time, Verant will make improvements to all
>>aspects of the game? You yourself stated the 50 level players are bored
so
>>thats why they start twink characters. It sure would be nice if those
>>twinks had something different to look forward to (new items and quests).
>>As it stands now, all they get to do is the stuff their 50th level
>character
>>has probably already done countless times over. How boring.
>>
>>Galtin of E'ci
>>
>>> One thing what do you think us 46+ players had to play with? Guess what
>>> you
>>> low levels are having a ton more fun then us high levles why do you
think
>>> so
>>> many of us twink? They have to do something about high levels because
>they
>>> are the most unhappy there are only two zones excluding planes that
>people
>>> do sol b and guk. DO you have any clue how crowded it is? We were doing
>>> bothg planes and both dragons at the same time on E'ci and guess what
>>> there
>>> is still 80+ people in guk and sol b. This is a major problem and they
>>> need
>>> to fix the problem not add stuff for low levels who are just complaining
>>> that they don't get anything new added. Perosnally I could care less if
>>> they
>>> didn't add anything new for me but I do care that it's crowded as hell
>>> for
>>> high levels.
>>>
>>> Naeeldar
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Reece, Tom - 25IDL G4 <g4mntofcr@...>
>>> To: eqbards@onelist.com <eqbards@onelist.com>
>>> Date: Friday, January 21, 2000 4:48 PM
>>> Subject: [eqbards] PoA bard quests plus a rant
>>>
>>>
>>> >From: "Reece, Tom - 25IDL G4" <g4mntofcr@...>
>>> >
>>> >Someone posted a link on the new Concert Hall message board of the new
>>> bard
>>> >quests on the PoA. There are six bard quests and each quest requires
>you
>>> to
>>> >obtain three items to get the reward.
>>> >
>>> >Abashi posted earlier that 200+ class specific items were included in
>the
>>> >new patch. It appears that most, if not all, of these 200+ items are
>>> >related to the PoA quests. Each class gets six quests. Thats 84 new
>>> items.
>>> >I only looked at the bard quests, but assuming all class quests require
>>> >three components, thats 252 quests components (84 x3). Some of the
>quest
>>> >used the same components so this number is probably a lot lower. Most
>of
>>> >the quest components were items I had never heard of so I don't know if
>>> they
>>> >are dropped only in PoA or in other zones. I assume the 200+ class
>>> specific
>>> >items Abashi referred to were the 84 quest reward items and the 252+/-
>>> quest
>>> >components.
>>> >
>>> >Rant on:
>>> >I have no problems with Verant adding more stuff for the 46+ players to
>>> do.
>>> >That gets them out of the zone where I'm at. What I do have a concern
>>> with
>>> >is the apparent lack of attention given to players less than 46th
level.
>>> >With the exception of the class armor quests added a few months back
and
>>> new
>>> >loot found in Paw, almost every new item/quest that has been recently
>>> (past
>>> >few months) added to the game is geared toward the 46+ player. I am
not
>>> >aware of any new items/quests added to the game geared toward medium
>>> level
>>> >characters. Perhaps my observation is subjective, but it seems to me
>>> that
>>> >Verant is focusing on keeping the 46+ characters happy at the expense
of
>>> the
>>> >45- characters. Am I out of line thinking this way?
>>> >
>>> >Caveat: Its quite possible that the new PoA quest component items are
>>> >usuable until they are traded in and obtainable in zones outside of
PoA.
>>> >Its also possible that these items are ideally suited for use by medium
>>> to
>>> >high level characters. If this turns out to be true I'll eat my words.
>>> >
>>> >Rant off
>>> >
>>> >Galtin of E'ci
>>> >32 bard
>>> >
>>> >
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