I didnt want this to be a whole new thread on complaining. Just people on
this list should realize there is more to the game than what is wrong. Some
of us would like to focus on what is right and just play.
Somebody is a little overly angry at my little message. Dont worry this was
not directed specifically at you. All that I am saying here is that yes
there are bugs. Have you ever played a game that doesnt? Would you rather
that EQ had never come out? Or it be like Diablo 2 which gets pushed back
for years? I dont thinkso. I'm glad that EQ exists. And to compare this to
a car is ridiculous. When is the last time you paid a mere 9.89 per month
for a car? If this were a car I could see this degree of anger and
complaining, but the fact is that it is not. It is something much cheaper.
If you like the food example fine. If you go to a restaurant and dont like
the food. You complain. You maybe try it again. You dont like it. Yet
you see other people in the restaurant enjoying it. Not minding if it is a
little greasy or whatever. They are enjoying the atmosphere and their
company. If you still dont like it do you continue to go back to the
restaurant over and over? There are other restaurants. If you really want
to go to another online game, thats ok but there are slim pickins.
And you claim that Verant is sitting on their asses ignoring issues? Like
graphics you say? Like the drum animation? Have you read the interviews
which stated what a massive update that would be for something that is
merely aesthetic? What if these past months the guy (or gal) in charge of
those "drum graphics" was working on something more important? Like the
ability for party members to see each other during clouding? I would rather
strum a stick and have my party be safe then have a drum I pound on and have
my
members get lost and die. Every company has an order of things to get done.
I'm sure that Verant's number one is an important one, even if we dont know
what it is. And its not our right to know what it is. Where does it come
from that we can just assume that Verant is sitting on their asses? We are
not an insider at Verant, we dont know. This is a game and we are its
players. We are lucky to have the game at all. I just
think that everyone needs to take a step back and realize. We cant assume
that Verant is doing nothing. Who knows, maybe other more horrific
tragedies were averted by Verant doing what they have been doing. What if
there was a risk of stored data lost? Should they work on that, even if the
players dont know it, or should they fix our drums? Please just everyone
chill. The only way to get results for what we want is to be adult about
it. People do not respond to bitching and complaining in a positive way.
How many marriages have broken up to prove that? Once there is so much
complaining the listening party often turns a deaf ear. Do we want that? Or
is that what Verant has already done? Are they tired of listening to the
constantly complaining Bards? Is that why the focus on other classes?
And to the comment that if I didnt do my job as a programmer my boss would
have my ass. Yes, she would. Too bad that boss is me. Things happen in
programming that affect other parts of the program. That may be a good or
bad thing. It can be potentially a disaster. But we do testing. We
sometimes let an error in another module pass through and then fix that
error. Sometimes the error was in the other module in the first place. I
would rather live with an error or two once a week than have EQ go down for
48 hours so that every piece of code can be tested to make sure the patch is
perfect. This game is a massive piece of code and work. It will NEVER be
perfect. That is the way it goes. The very nature of the game is for it to
evolve and change. It will for the good and the bad.
----- Original Message -----
> From: Ryan Honeyman <honeyman@...>
> To: <eqbards@onelist.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [eqbards] negativity
>
>
> > From: Ryan Honeyman <honeyman@...>
> >
> > > that. When something goes wrong I live with it. It's not going to
kill
> me.
> > > I'll still be here tomorrow. I joined this list in the very beginning
> so
> > > that I could learn about upcoming levels and have someone to ask
> questions
> > > to if I needed. Now I open my folder and delete, delete, delete,
> delete.
> > > Too bad. Wouldnt it be nice if this were a happier place?
> >
> > Wouldnt it be nice if the world you live in was a happier place?
> >
> > If someone sells you a car with some options missing, and you take
> > it back to get it fixed and it takes a week to repair..and when you
> > receive it again, some options are still missing? Don't you take
> > action? Aren't you the slightest bit pissed off? This isn't some mud
> > you log into everyday and play around for free. This is a service
that
> > a company is offering to us. If your power company ups your rate,
> > what do you do? Call them and tell them to cancel your power, cause
> > you are pissed off? F no, you don't do that. You complain like a
> > mofo and make people aware that it's unfair. Verant offers a very
> > attractive service, one which I want to be a part of. That's right,
> > I want to play these game with my friends, in fact I pay to play this
> > game with my friends, and that gives me every right to complain about
> > the company until they get it right.
> >
> > Verant is making poor decisions, and they have zero, that's right,
> > zero coordination and testing going on right now. That much is
> > evident and clear to me. What really f'ing pisses me off, is that
> > those stupid GMs sat their lazy asses on the Plane of Sky for 2 or
> > 3 months, when they could have been testing it out. Now look at
> > the Plane of Sky, it's totally busted... The quests dont work, the
> > text in the quests is wrong. This isn't unusual, and if you expect
> > us to say they are only human, give them a break everytime they
> > change one thing in this game and it causes a failure, then when are
> > they gonna do something correctly? Should I give them an A for
> > effort, when they are failing to produce any measurable results?
> > Did you get an A for effort in school, because you tried hard
> > and had your heart in it? I doubt it.
> >
> > I will be the first to congrat Verant on a job well done. The fact
> > of the matter is, they aren't doing a good job. They aren't even
> > doing a decent job. They are just bumbling along, until the day
> > that this all crumbles down in a heap of confusion. If you think
> > that frustrating players is doing a good job, then they are doing
> > terrific at that. I liked the patch message, I have no complaints
> > about the bard additions. But I'm tired of them not addressing the
> > real issues at hand, in order to make non-critical adjustments to
> > the game. The fact that two continents were missing should have
> > clued anyone in to the future of this game. This game is and will
> > always be incomplete until they address some very big player based
> > problems, including graphic effects, and bugs that have existed
> > since beta. Verant as a whole _is_ lazy.
> >
> > I want to help Verant, I have ideas, I have time to test, I even have
> > the patience to live through their mistakes. But every g'damn time
> > I log into the game, I'm riddled by bugs, by crashes, by problems.
> > It's amazing that it even still works, although they will claim it's
> > never been broken.
> >
> > Yeah, I could grow up a little, and lay off the cursing, lay off the
> > Flame Verant bandwagon, but they've lost their players admiration in
> > this 'vision' they have. If they want to keep screwing around with
> > things because it fits their ideas of the game they want without
> > considering what the players are looking for in their game, they
> > are bound for a rude awakening.
> >
> > Harmonic.
> >
> >
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