On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, JasonF wrote:

>
> Sorry for changing the subject, but I would like to see other people's
> reaction on the "new and improved" bard hate.

I pretty much agree with you that it's been reduced. I just
wanted to comment on something here.

> The other guys arrive and I take off out of the gate room for the zone wall,
> leading them (no songs of course). We come to a Kirukai (sp?) warrior and a
> Cleric of Innoruuk that are blocking our path. Death time. The two mobs
> both passed me close enough that I could smell their aftershave to chase my
> level 46 Ranger friend around. Then they start wailing on the others in my
> group that are higher level than I am as I stand there watching. Well after
> a few rounds of not being hit I decided maybe I shouldn't just stand there
> indefinitly waiting my turn for a dirtnap, so I darted out the door and up
> the zone wall and camped out to clear their agro lists. Nothing ever agrod
> on me. In fact by the time my camping process was at 15 seconds everyone
> else in my party was dead. The mobs didn't come for me. That's pretty
> unusual, but isn't conclusive.

This only seems unusual to us bards. :) While playing around
with sneak in various zones with no songs playing, I found out
this is how the game works for everyone *except* us. If a mob
is aggroed on someone, you can be inside its aggro radius and
it won't aggro on you (unless you're close enough that it
decides to attack you instead). I've had giants, frogloks,
kobolds, and various bugs all run through me and never aggro
on me (should /con threatening while in sneak mode and behind
them).

Unfortunately, the way it works for bards is that if you're in
the aggro radius and your song pulses, that almost always adds
you to the hate list.

--
John H. Kim
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