I think we'd just like to get some attention focused on this now. If no one
complains you can be sure Verant will say, "Hey there weren't any new bard
songs out there for weeks and everyone knew this, why didn't you speak up
then?"
Kit
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin L. Crawford [mailto:
Lyrnia@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 2:46 PM
To:
eqbards@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Kunark Expansion
From: "Kevin L. Crawford" <
Lyrnia@...>
I agree and understand. But GZ flat out stated that the information in
SPDAT.EFF was on test for _testing_ and even made the 'joke spells' at the
end to prove his point.
Yes, I agree it's likely that our songs will be an afterthought. Then
again, they always have been. The Bard class was the single most nerfed
class in the game during Beta. And even, to some extent, during final
(every DOT nerf affected us, the levitate nerf affected us, etc etc. Our
charm song even got nerfed because of the nerf to charm spells (with no fix
in sight).
I agree that it's likely we'll continue to be ignored. However, that being
said, I still think it's a bit premature to start crying wolf, before it's
even out of the womb, let alone in our pasture or yard. I understand that
people are unhappy about what's in the SPDAT.EFF file, however, I think it's
premature to start complaining about something that is changing on a weekly
basis.
And, in response to you, I've been playing EQ since Beta 2. I've played a
Bard since Beta 2 (as well as every other class in the game to level 25+).
I care very much about the game and love my bard too. However, the
difference is, I refuse to complain about something that doesn't even exist
yet.
On top of that I've been on Test since day 1 of final and seen some pretty
wacky stuff that made it to TEST but never went live.
Lyrnia Jongleur
Bard of Norrath
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Honeyman" <honeyman@...>
To: <eqbards@onelist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Kunark Expansion
> From: Ryan Honeyman <honeyman@...>
>
> > Stop worrying. SPDAT.EFF is a farcical file at best. As a matter of
fact
> > GZ posted a bunch of false data in it _on purpose_ because they don't
want
> > people knowing what's going in for Kunark.
> >
> > The stuff going in for test is for testing. I seriously doubt half of
> > what's listed goes into final.
>
>
> 95% of what is listed in that file is live and in the game. To suggest
> that half of it won't make it to final is pure speculation on your part.
> And that's what this all boils down to. Everyone's best guess.
>
> If those spells made it into the file this far, chances are they are
> going into the game. Allbeit, their values/stats/effects may be tweaked
> you can count on those spells going live. Such is my experience since
> early beta. (And I don't mean the bogus InstantKill spell at the end
> of the file)
>
>
> > Besides. I hate that people are even trying to figure this out already.
> > All you guys are doing is getting really worked up over something that
may
> > or may not happen.
>
> And I hate people who think they know Verant's every move, tell others
> to chill out, that's it's just a game, and then proceed to compose an
> irritated mail about why they don't really care.
>
> The people on this list genuinely care about their bards and the fact
> that no songs are even in the file for testing worries everyone on this
> list. Songs were missing in beta, and never made it in. I believe the
> same thing will transpire here. The songs that I imagine being added
> will come one or two weeks before they ship the final for release, and
> those songs will be vague and poorly tested. That comment is based on
> my 1.5 years of experience with Brad's team.
>
> I'd love to have the undying support and optimism some people here
> try to enlighten us with, but the fact is if you let me down once,
> you let me down twice, you'll probably let me down three, four, or
> more times. That is the Verant way. They created a great game,
> however they are poorly supporting and adding to their creation.
> Until something wonderful happens, I will still remain doubtful.
>
> Harmonic.
>
>
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