On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, JasonF wrote:
>
> Let me clear something up about the drop rates on Druzzil. I assure you
> they're no better than anywhere else - that's one reason I was so thrilled
> at getting both gauntlets and arms in one trip. In fact one of the drops
> was from a patroller (pats we call 'em), the odds of which are very, very
> close to zero.
How do you tell if it's a patroller? I've been trying to bind
sight with the puller, but there's no easy way I've figured
out to tell. There are static scorn banshees? Where?
> I've made about 14 Hate trips that cleared essentially the whole Plane. Of
> those 14 trips I have seen exactly FOUR pieces of Imbrued drop. I was
> fortunate enough in three of the cases to be the recipient of the item.
> Therefore, I now have Breastplate, Arms and Gauntlets. I got the BP on my
> second trip about six weeks ago and have seen ZERO pieces drop until this
> weekend.
I just whipped up some code for a monte carlo simulation.
Average number of drops required before you see all 7
different pieces is just over 18 (assuming all pieces drop
with equal probability). So even if you're first in line for
all bard armor, you'll have to see 18 drops on average before
you have a full set (well, only one bracer, but most people
opt to substitute a hero or lambent for their second bracer).
Seeing as the drop rate seems to average less than one per
trip, and you're talking about a long long time.
> twice as often as anything else. But when Planes capable players see my
> armor there is no question in their minds about how difficult it was to get.
> A lot of people complained pretty loudly that the armor resulting from the
> Lambent (and other) armor quests was not NO DROP and just simply too easy to
If all armor planes armor were this rare I'd have no problem
with it. But they screwed up and tuned the armor drops on a
"new pieces added per game day" basis. Because the respawn in
Hate is faster than Fear, that means the "armor drop per
player-hour" for Hate is much lower than for Fear. So folks
with Fear armor go there, clear it over 5+ hours, then go on
to do other stuff (like sleep or play elsewhere) for the rest
of their time. But for folks with Hate armor would have to
camp Hate 24 hours straight (due to the respawning wanderers)
to have the same shot at their armor.
It's the right choice from a world-balance standpoint, but
really screwed up for classes with Hate armor.
--
John H. Kim
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