Actually I could go back and get my e-mail from the last great clouding debate where I did exactly that test the con and the result with invis on and invis off. What I tend to think people forget is the possibilty of see invis being part of some of these creatures.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:04:04 -0500 eqbards@onelist.com wrote:
> From: "Kevin L. Crawford" <Lyrnia@...>
>
> Everyone that I have ever seen purport that Clouding works vs. undead seems
> to have 1 major misconception:
>
> All the undead in unrest except Barbed bones (and higher) are under level
> 20, which means they have green coward code affecting them. You could, at
> level 30, walk around in unrest pretty much unperturbed by ANY of the
> undead simply because they won't attack you because you're so far above
> them in level. Just because an undead critter doesn't attack doesn't mean
> you're invisible to them. Try using clouding then CONNING the undead. They
> still con as 'ready to attack'. Which means they can see you. They just
> won't agg because you are higher level than them. Lyrnia the amused.
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