At 10:02 AM 6/9/99 -0500, you wrote:
>From: James Schuldes <jgs@...>
>
>I think we are saying the same thing here - yes the bard gets the mob's
>attention but it's because of the way mob ai works - they can sense who they
>should kill and they see you as both dangerous to them and as easy to kill.
>Because you are in the party that attacked one of their party - you get put
>on their hate list. All of them now hate you. You are right it is a
>programming thing but I think it's the way they want it.
>
>Part of this is seen when a party member gets bounced by a high level npc -
>like brigand or a gryf. Once one party member gets on a hate list all party
>members are added especially if you are playing a song that is buffing them
>or whatever. So everyone has to zone to clear the hate list otherwise the
>mob will come hunting all of the party members.
>
>And I still think better tactics can mitigate your situation. Don't pull
>all of them (a cleric can lull some of them and you wont get 4 hitting on
>you - only 2 :-) - I suppose your tanks don't mind because they can take all
>of them no problemo but all of them will attack you if you are in their
>sight. Might be interesting to see just how far away you have to be before
>they don't come to you instead of the tanks. I know they will run around a
>couple tanks if you are near but I wonder what would happen if you were
>outside of the range where you can read the icons?
>
>Anyone in your party have camo? Does camo work if you are singing/playing?
>
>Sylly.
>
>I think you are failing to see my point..yes i know the ai is programmed
to go after the weaker members but these 2 went after me AFTER the tanks
had been pounding on them...also i have had this happen from mobs pulled
NOT from my party...I have looked for reasons why..me lower level? nope in
34 and they were 28..i low hp? nope full...race? nope they had a half
elf...faction?..did a double check after words same con for both of us..the
only thing i could find is they attacked simply because i was a bard
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Zoucha [mailto:szoucha@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 9:16 AM
> To: eqbards@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [eqbards] Utility of Lullaby and
>Invisibility songs
>
> From: Sam Zoucha <szoucha@...>
>
> At 08:10 AM 6/9/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >From: James Schuldes <jgs@...>
> >
> >The bard helps all of the party. The mobs hate anyone
>helping anyone they
> >are fighting. So, you are going to be number one on their
>hit list. Also,
>
> >So, the tanks will be fighting one mob while you will
> >be fighting all of them.
> >
>
> Had to post to this 1...it is not poor tactics that cause
>this..it is
> something to do with the programming..I for 1 have not been
>singing a
> single thing..standing aways behind my group..they pull
>something ..3 or 4
> come...the tanks are bashing on it..i am still doing
>nothing(just to test
> this) and sure enough 2 of the baddies decide to go pound on
>me
> instead..also this wasnt faction related as the tanks had
>far worse
> factions with the baddies than i did....as far as i can tell
>there is some
> bard 'bug' that sends baddies our way for no apparent
>reason.
>
>
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