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Message ID: 17028
Date: Wed Mar 29 22:41:57 BST 2000
Author: Kimes, Dean W.
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Attack speedups


Our enchanter seems to have no trouble keeping both tanks Alacrity'd thru
the night and still does crowd control. Yes I could give us all a speedup,
but since the only other person even meleeing is a cleric it wouldn't help
much. My finger-twiddling is much better spent on Chant of Battle if the
enchanter is there to Alacrity. If he's not then Anthem gets back in the
mix. If bards excel at anything its that we can fill in as a substitute
just-about-anything. Problem I'm starting to find is that I'm only able to
get into groups that are lacking something if there isn't a person looking
to group who's better at that thing as a primary role. When I do get in
lately its always as a tank.

Last 3 nites: Don't chain, we're darknessing. Don't anthem we're
alacritying. Don't Chant we're skin like something or othering. Don't Hymn
or you'll get too much attention and die. Didn't leave much of anything for
me to do but swing, bellow and go owie. Occasionally we'd pull a wizard or
shaman gobie and I'd throw the resistances in.

Towards the end of the night I get asked in group tell, "Can't you do
anything but Bellow? I thought bards had all kinds of cool songs." My
reply? Didn't have one, told them "I am retiring to the OOT to contemplate
life while beating head on gargoyles for a while."

Kit
one very wet minstrel with a headache

-----Original Message-----
From: Perhaps a Princess... [mailto:sarah@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 2:32 PM
To: eqbards@onelist.com
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Attack speedups


From: "Perhaps a Princess..." <sarah@...>

Swift Like the Wind costs a LOT of mana, and doesn't last as long as
the lower level speed up buff. Add onto this that there is a speed
beyond which a weapon can't get any faster. And Swift Like the Wind,
in higher levels, isn't even used on people with haste sashes. Not
worth it.

So. Sometimes a minor speedup is good enough.

Quicken is very definitely a combat buff. And fairly high mana. Grouped,
I'd put it on my main tank and let a bard handle the speedup for the
rest, preferring to use mana for crowd control, or other circumstances
rather than keeping everyone Quickened.

Just because it is better does not mean that it is always the best
use of the enchanter's mana. Bards ARE Still needed.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sylly Songsynger [mailto:jgs@...]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 11:56 AM

>>From Eq Casters Realm:

>Swift Like The Wind
>---------------------
>Target: Increase Attack Speed +160.
>Description:Great for tanks when grouped. Increases the amount of times you
>will hit in a round against an enemy. In large/long battles it can make a
>huge difference. Quite deadly when used in conjunction with Languid
>Pace/Tepid Deeds. Combine these 2 spells when possible.. talk
>about breaking
>the odds. Slows down your opponent, increases your attack rate
>This spell doesn't stack with Augmentation, but as such it provides over
>double the attack speed for the target and is usually preferred anyway. The
>other important thing is that this spell helps increase combat skill gain
>since you are making more skill rolls with your attack.
>----------------------

>So, when SLTW " provides over double the attack speed " - it hardly matters
>if VoV does a 35.271% increase or a 36.983% increase. Enchanter
>speed buffs
>are where it's at. I use Warsong because my enchanter wont give me SLTW.
>She says she does not want me to die that quickly. But then again Innoruuk
>killed her and not me ;p
>
>Sylly Songsynger
><The Pantheon>
>Bardette of 49 songs (yes, finally)
>... somewhere on Innoruuk
>http://www.sba.uwm.edu/jgs/sylly


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