What I dont understand is where people are getting their idea
of roleplaying. I am assuming they are getting the definition
from AD&D, where Bards were traveling musicians but kept
away from direct combat and never wore heavy armor.
Norrath is a world created by taking small ideas from all the
other RPG's that are out there. The designer's version of a
bard is different than bards that we know. The designer's version
of a gnoll is different than any I have encountered (gnolls in AD&D
are 7' tall, the gnolls in Norrath are short - unless you count that
Giant Gnoll) :).
In a RPG situation, I see no valid restrictions on Bards not wearing
armor plate for the fact they can't move enough to play their songs.
If that were the case, warriors would not be able to use a bow while
in plate, no one would be able to run, etc. There is no single reason
why Bards should not be able to wear plate. The argument "It is not
part of a roleplaying environment" is wrong. The way Norrath has
been designed it *IS* in the roleplaying environment.
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> From: David.Lynam@...[SMTP:David.Lynam@...]
> Reply To: eqbards@onelist.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 3:31 PM
> To: eqbards@onelist.com
> Subject: [eqbards] Bards N Plate and people's opinions
>
> From: David.Lynam@...
>
> From what I've seen the bards in Everquest are nothing like the "bards" of
> the celtic tribes as you describe them here. The bards of everquest
> travel,
> sing songs, and play instruments. They are in fact travelling musicians,
> which you said the celts were not. I could handle bards wearing chain in
> a
> roleplay situation, however, not plate. This is my opinion, and I feel
> both
> sides need to be expressed with minimal sarcasm (which is why i
> appreciated
> that post, not nearly as much sarcasm). It's understandable that most of
> you want to retain the ability to wear plate, but I fail to see a valid
> argument from a roleplaying point of view for the allowance of plate on
> bards. This is not to say that I'll not wear plate, because I'm not THAT
> commited to convictions. -=)
>
> Ka`Lend
>
>
> > From: firehawk@...
> >
> > Okay that's it I've about had it my fellows of song. It's time for a
> > reality check. I roleplay.. the fact that I have a bard since day one
> > release and am only level 13 attests to that. Infact I have on more
> > then one occasion parited with groups above my exp gain level for the
> > sole purpose of helping them and recording their first visit to a new
> land.
> >
> > Unlike many I'm willing to bet I also sing sea chanties on boatrides,
> > make little poems for each of my songs (lyrics) etc. I also game,
> > I have fought wisps till blue in the face (anyone else pissed at the
> nosave
> > now turned burned out lightstone bull?) and have kited,soloed, grouped
> > and twisted with the best of them.
> >
> > I'm tired of seeing this roleplay plate mail talk and quite a few
> others,
> > let me give you abit of backround. The EQ bard seems to me best
> compared
> to
> > the CELTIC bard. It's important to understand the Celtic bard as
> opposed
> to
> > what we have come to call a bard. The religion of the celts being
> Druidic
> > was split in several sections with three primary universal among the
> tribes.
> > The preist/mage type the ones we typically see in flowing robes and call
> druid
> > that most RPG's consider. The judge section Gaelic Brehon (sp) who
> administered
> > clan law and succession issues. And the Bard who recorded the histories,
> told
> > the tales, taught the faith, ran the messages, recorded the liniages
> etc.
> >
> > The celtic bard was by no means some weak pansy musician, nor a figure
> to
> take
> > lightly. The bard seldome directly fought in wars but was certainly
> often
> well
> > trained in arms and would often run into situations in his travels where
> fightin
> > was needed. In the period Plate was not an option and so from a
> historical point, the bard would not have worn plate, however the Celts
> did
> invent chain
> > and that being the strongest of the time would have worn that if they
> could
> > access it (bards of the stonger clans) so there is no reason to say they
> would reject plate.
>
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