i talked to two ppl (one on bertox and another on e'ci) who'd been on a
nagafen raid recently. they said nagafen was no different than usual that
they noticed. but could be they had their act together.

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> I only say consensus is that Nagafen was upgraded because
> several guilds who used to be able to kill him on Karana were
> unable to despite multiple attempts, and the two guilds we
> expected would have no problems needed two attempts.