Although EQ is intellectual property (and therefore covered under law), the
rest of the items in your system are NOT the property of EQ, and unless they
can prove beforehand (or at least have probable cause for you
*individually*) that you are using a program to mess with the EQ files then
they are conducting a *serious* breach of invasion of privacy. I only run
from one system (poor old college kid ;pp ), so I really can't monitor what
they are doing while I'm ingame, but if I were you, I would notify my
atorney, and have them send a letter to Verant saying that you had proof of
their snooping, and if they do it again, you will sue.
(One semester of Business Law, and I think I'm friggin Matlock ;pp )
-=B=-
The Rathe
-----Original Message-----
From: Cyr, Thierry <
thierry.cyr@...>
To: '
eqbards@egroups.com' <
eqbards@egroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 10:52 AM
Subject: [eqbards] new policy and stuff
>thought i'd share this with you all, its burning up the necro mailing list
>reguarding the EULA.
>
>Rakka/Minkin
>Sol Ro
>
>
>> >From Caster's Realm message boards:
>> _________________________________________
>>
>> I have a program that monitors all file disk activity done through the
>> windows kernel. When I read the new patch message, this peaked my
>curiosity
>> and had to check what EQ was doing. They going to scan me, I'm going to
>see
>> what, well some of it anyway
>> Heres some odd lines.. I don't know much about this sort of thing, but
>maybe
>> the more experienced can make something out of it. Of course it just
might
>> be crap that I'm making a big deal over when its nothing, but here goes
>>
>> I added a * and how many lines I saw in a row for the certain command for
>> when I saw many of the same line in a row. I did this so I didn't spam as
>> much as I already am =)
>>
>> Note: Some of the offsets/lengths changed for each of the consecutive
>> read/seek commands but i didn't post the differences.
>>
>> Eqgame FindOpen D:\EVERQUEST\MEMORY.TXT NOTFOUND
>> Eqgame Delete D:\EVERQUEST\MEMORY.TXT NOTFOUND
>>
>> eq trying to dump memory contents to a text file then delete it? no
biggie
>> here if it is
>>
>> Here comes the stuff that made me decide to post...
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES SUCCESS
>GetAttributes
>> *4 lines of this
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES\DESKTOP.INI SUCCESS
>> GetAttributes
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\COOKIES SUCCESS GetAttributes *2 lines
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\HISTORY SUCCESS GetAttributes *5 lines
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\HISTORY\DESKTOP.INI SUCCESS GetAttributes
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES\CONTENT.IE5 SUCCESS
>> GetAttributes
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES\CONTENT.IE5 SUCCESS
>> GetAttributes *3 lines
>>
>> Eqgame Open C:\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES\CONTENT.IE5\INDEX.DAT
>> SUCCESS CREATENEW OPENEXISTING READWRITE DENYNONE
>>
>> Eqgame Seek C:\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES\CONTENT.IE5\INDEX.DAT
>> SUCCESS Beginning Offset: 0 / New offset: 0 *3 lines
>>
>> Eqgame Close C:\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES\CONTENT.IE5\INDEX.DAT
>> SUCCESS CLOSE_FINAL
>>
>> Eqgame Open C:\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES\CONTENT.IE5\INDEX.DAT
>> SUCCESS CREATENEW OPENEXISTING READWRITE DENYNONE
>>
>> Eqgame Seek C:\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES\CONTENT.IE5\INDEX.DAT
>> SUCCESS Beginning Offset: 0 / New offset: 0 *3 lines
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\COOKIES SUCCESS GetAttributes
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\COOKIES SUCCESS GetAttributes *3 lines
>>
>> Eqgame Open C:\WINDOWS\COOKIES\INDEX.DAT SUCCESS CREATENEW OPENEXISTING
>> READWRITE DENYNONE
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\COOKIES\INDEX.DAT SUCCESS Set Modify
>>
>> Eqgame Seek C:\WINDOWS\COOKIES\INDEX.DAT SUCCESS Beginning Offset: 0 /
New
>> offset: 0 *3 lines
>>
>> Eqgame Close C:\WINDOWS\COOKIES\INDEX.DAT SUCCESS CLOSE_FINAL
>>
>> Eqgame Open C:\WINDOWS\COOKIES\INDEX.DAT SUCCESS CREATENEW OPENEXISTING
>> READWRITE ENYNONE
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\HISTORY\HISTORY.IE5 SUCCESS GetAttributes *3
>> lines
>>
>> Eqgame Open C:\WINDOWS\HISTORY\HISTORY.IE5\INDEX.DAT SUCCESS CREATENEW
>> OPENEXISTING READWRITE DENYNONE
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\HISTORY\HISTORY.IE5\INDEX.DAT SUCCESS Set
>> Modify
>>
>> Eqgame Seek C:\WINDOWS\HISTORY\HISTORY.IE5\INDEX.DAT SUCCESS Beginning
>> Offset: 0 / New offset: 0 *3 lines
>>
>> Eqgame Close C:\WINDOWS\HISTORY\HISTORY.IE5\INDEX.DAT SUCCESS CLOSE_FINAL
>>
>> Eqgame Open C:\WINDOWS\HISTORY\HISTORY.IE5\INDEX.DAT SUCCESS CREATENEW
>> OPENEXISTING READWRITE DENYNONE
>>
>> Eqgame Seek C:\WINDOWS\HISTORY\HISTORY.IE5 INDEX.DAT SUCCESS Beginning
>> Offset: 0 / New offset: 0 *3 lines
>>
>> Eqgame Read C:\WINDOWS\HISTORY\HISTORY.IE5\INDEX.DAT SUCCESS Offset: 0
>> Length: 0 **20 LINES!!!
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES\CONTENT.IE5 SUCCESS
>> GetAttributes *3 lines
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY INTERNET
>> FILES\CONTENT.IE5\DESKTOP.INI SUCCESS GetAttributes
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\HISTORY\HISTORY.IE5 SUCCESS GetAttributes *3
>> lines
>>
>> Eqgame Attributes C:\WINDOWS\HISTORY\HISTORY.IE5\DESKTOP.INI SUCCESS
>> GetAttributes
>>
>> Eqgame Seek C:\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES\CONTENT.IE5\INDEX.DAT
>> SUCCESS Beginning Offset: 0 / New offset: 0 *9 lines
>>
>> then RIGHT after those
>>
>> Eqgame Read C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\RASAPI32.DLL SUCCESS Offset: 131072 Length:
>> 4096 *2 lines
>>
>> Eqgame Read C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\TAPI32.DLL SUCCESS Offset: 106496 Length:
>> 4096 - 2 lines
>>
>> then randomly later on I keep seeing 3 lines of this here and there:
>>
>> Eqgame Seek C:\WINDOWS\TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES\CONTENT.IE5\INDEX.DAT
>> SUCCESS Beginning Offset: 0 / New offset: 0
>>
>> EQ reading internet history and cookie files?! Whats up with that? If
>theres
>> some useful info for an Internet game in the history/cookie folders then
>say
>> it here, however tiny.. I dont want to start something huge, because this
>> might mean nothng.
>>
>> I use microslop IE explorer if you didn't notice. Didn't try this with
>> netscrape yet.
>>
>> I started the file monitor right before I clicked the EULA agree button.
I
>> then went to the server select, chose my server, then when I got to
>> character select screen I kept hitting escape until I got to desktop to
>look
>> at the log. I might have missed something, after all I was looking
through
>a
>> log that had over 49000 file commands recorded =P
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeff Burgess [mailto:jburgess@...]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 9:58 AM
>> To: 'EQ-Necromancers@egroups.com'
>> Subject: RE: [EQ-Necromancers] Re: EULA
>>
>> Another related post I've found on the official boards:
>> --------------
>>
>> Ajax,
>> Of course you can decline at any time, but you will be unable to log into
>> EQ if you don't agree.
>> However, to get at the heart of your concern let me assure you that we
>> could care less about anything that isn't going to interfere with EQ.
>> We aren't Big Brother and we're not sending back a list of sites you've
>> been browsing, or anything else for that matter. Specifcally we have
>> technology that can find the signatures of programs that are known to be
>> hacking tools. If you have those tools, that's fine. Just don't run them
>> when you're playing EQ. That's all we are saying.
>> John Smedley
>> President and CEO
>> Verant Interactiv, Inc.
>> .
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