Please remove me from this listing.... the message all concern planes and
nothing for lower levels.
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Topics in this digest:
1. RE: RE: ugh, shutting bards out of lotto getting more widespread
From: "Morten Gottrup" <
gottrup@...>
2. Re: ugh, shutting bards out of lotto getting more widespread
From: "Sylly Songsynger" <
jgs@...>
3. Shard procs
From: "Bill Mann" <
dabard@...>
4. Re: Lame List of New Spells
From: Benjamin Jerrad Segal <
birdman@...>
5. Re: Plane of Sky
From: "Sylly Songsynger" <
jgs@...>
6. RE: Shard procs
From: "Reeves, Patrick W" <
pwr3@...>
7. RE: Plane of Sky
From: "Reeves, Patrick W" <
pwr3@...>
8. Re: bardsong
From: "Sylly Songsynger" <
jgs@...>
9. A theory on clarity
From: Benjamin Jerrad Segal <
birdman@...>
10. Re: Lame List of New Spells
From: "Jeff Illian" <
jeff@...>
11. RE: Lame List of New Spells
From: Greg Gillan <
ggillan@...>
12. Lord Grim: aLive and Undead in South Karana
From: "Sylly Songsynger" <
jgs@...>
13. RE: Lame List of New Spells
From: "Reeves, Patrick W" <
pwr3@...>
14. Re: Shard procs
From: "Kevin L. Crawford" <
Lyrnia@...>
15. Re: Lame List of New Spells
From: "Jeff Illian" <
jeff@...>
16. Charm needs another update on the song analasys site:
From: "Kevin L. Crawford" <
Lyrnia@...>
17. Final Hell Level....
From:
John_Senior@...
18. Re: Final Hell Level....
From: "Jeff Illian" <
jeff@...>
19. Re: Final Hell Level....
From: "Daniel P. Sniderman" <
fuzzbone@...>
20. Re: Final Hell Level....
From: "Sylly Songsynger" <
jgs@...>
21. Re: Lame List of New Spells
From: <
kim@...>
22. Re: A theory on clarity
From: <
kim@...>
23. Vacation
From: <
kim@...>
24. RE: Vacation
From: "Reeves, Patrick W" <
pwr3@...>
25. Plane of Sky Update
From: Miriana <
miriana@...>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:17:52 GMT
From: "Morten Gottrup" <
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Subject: RE: RE: ugh, shutting bards out of lotto getting more widespread
pls remove me from this list
>From: "Jeff Heskett" <tarkin@...>
>Reply-To: eqbards@egroups.com
>To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [eqbards] RE: ugh, shutting bards out of lotto getting more
>widespread
>Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 04:39:00 -0400
>
>thanks for the support all :)
>
>it's clear to me now (as a few have posted here and elsewhere) that since
>the humblest haste item maxes out our speed, melees who could get the full
>speedup from the uber haste items should have priority. so i'm a firm
>believer now that dragon/god haste items should go those without a haste
>song.
>
>of course, we still need an fbss or swirlspine still. sadly the guild
>still
>thinks since we have a haste song, it's a waste to let the bards wear a
>fbss/ssbelt. (tho this may have changed. there are only a couple bards
>left in the guild at dragon/god level. there used to be enough to put a
>bard in every group.) because of the guild rules this would only happen
>for
>us if we joined pickup groups at frenzied, with no guildmates that could
>*cough* use it.
>
>it's a moot point for me now anyway. i left the guild. i never really
>thought it'd happen. these are my friends, not people to help me gather
>loot. leaving over this issue would've been foolish. but it was pretty
>clear in the discussion that too many in the guild think we should make
>useful chars instead and only dig out the bards at large targets, where
>we're actually useful. and what a god-awful burden it was getting us
bards
>up to dragon/god level to begin with, why don't we shut up.
>
>but they're still my friends, so i won't say the guild's name :P
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:07:42 -0500
From: "Sylly Songsynger" <
jgs@...>
Subject: Re: ugh, shutting bards out of lotto getting more widespread
get a new guild
find out up front what the loot rules are - before you join
tbh, bards at high levels dont need haste items. on really big stuff, you
do not want to be a melee person. you will contribute best to your team
with your songs enhanced by your instruments. but you do need to feed
yourself on a day to day basis and you will still spend your time outside
guild events swinging swords so you do have a legitimate use for haste
items. so, if your guild was saying that the up front melee people need
haste items first, i would agree with them. then your problem is that in
such a large guild, there will always be someone in front of you.
although,
you should be able to field a group to go camp for a sash in guk. but
taking you out of the lotto entirely is pretty bad. i'd be looking for a
new guild (although i'd never have joined or stayed in such a large one
anyways.)
sylly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Heskett" <tarkin@...>
To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 10:08 PM
Subject: [eqbards] ugh, shutting bards out of lotto getting more widespread
> tonight i found out that no longer will bards in our guild be allowed on
> lotto for haste items, ever. (unless it's bard-only)
> i need some pursuasive arguments to back me up. this is a guild of 150+
> different players. (tho minus a few bards lately)
> any ideas?
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:39:50 -0500
From: "Bill Mann" <dabard@...>
Subject: Shard procs
Saturday night, my guild held a promo/FFA event for our members and
recruits in the Arena (the zone). All folks engaging in the event were
told to un-mem any DoT spells/songs, and leave any weapons that proc DoT's
either in the bank, or unequipped. Seeing as I was the organizer, I left
my beloved Kisch in the bank (-=sigh!=-) and whooped out the ol' Obsidian
Shard. The Shard (from all I have read is SUPPOSEDLY a simple 30pt DD
proc. right? Well, imagine my suprise when a few ticks (not sure hopw
many) after it procs, I get the old "The Obsidian Shatter effect has worn
off" message. Question: Was there an update to this weapon that I missed?
(haven't used it in over a month)
btw... No matter what Abashi says, Necro and Bard fears STILL work in the
Arena's PvP zone, and in a Duel(he even replied to a post of mine about it
saying they disabled it).
-=B=-
Barrd Talespinner (aka NOR Bard)
Count of the New OutRiders
Troll-Smacker Emeritus
28th Season of filling The Rathe with song
Creator of BS Titles
And One Helluva Nice Guy ;o)
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:31:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Benjamin Jerrad Segal <birdman@...>
Subject: Re: Lame List of New Spells
On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, Ebisha wrote:
> And what are the songs of the hours going to be?
(Note: The following url contains spoileresque information)
http://eq.castersrealm.com/spells/bard/
> Liani <fingers and toes crossed, praying they dont nerf the new charm
song>
Much as I've enjoyed using it, I can attest to it's power, and perhaps
overpower. In Hate this weekend, my job became crowd control. Whenever
two things came in on a pull, I would charm the second, command it to /pet
guard here (sit down always made them wander off), run a ways away, and
reassert charm till it broke and retook. Working in concert with an
enchanter casting tashania, I could charm anything that came in save
clerics (never tried) and spites.
However, I heard through the grapevine of a bard on another server who
charmed the Key Master in the airplane to attack Sirran the Lunatic. The
lucky bard took such a faction hit that he is now scowling to all quest
NPCs in the zone.
Athren Notechaser, 50th composition in progress
Cazic-Thule <The Relentless>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:55:22 -0500
From: "Sylly Songsynger" <jgs@...>
Subject: Re: Plane of Sky
What about gnomish lockpicks? I thought they raised your skill in
lockpicking?
Sylly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rokenn Swiftsong" <rokenn@...>
To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Plane of Sky
> Sounds fishy, since VI has stated it the past that no items would boost
> skills in the that matter.
> I believe they answered that when Gordon was asked if mechanical
lockpicks
> added anything to the lock pick skill and his answer was no and no items
in
> the game would add to a skill.
>
> Rokenn
>
> >From: "Garramone, Michael (CCI-Las Vegas)" <garramone@...>
> >Reply-To: eqbards@egroups.com
> >To: "'eqbards@egroups.com'" <eqbards@egroups.com>
> >Subject: RE: [eqbards] Plane of Sky
> >Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 14:44:21 -0400
> >
> >i wish i could find it but i can't now, but what i read from a
guildmember
> >of mine who says he spoke with some people at verant, is that all of the
> >PoS
> >quest items have hidden stats that are not shown, so even though the
stats
> >may look bad, you are far more effective wearing any PoS item than not.
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 06:59:23 -0700
From: "Reeves, Patrick W" <pwr3@...>
Subject: RE: Shard procs
Obsidian Shatter is a 30pt DD proc plus an AC debuff. The message was the
AC debuff running out.
Rokenn
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Mann [mailto:dabard@...]
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 6:40 AM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: [eqbards] Shard procs
>
>
> Saturday night, my guild held a promo/FFA event for our
> members and recruits in the Arena (the zone). All folks
> engaging in the event were told to un-mem any DoT
> spells/songs, and leave any weapons that proc DoT's either in
> the bank, or unequipped. Seeing as I was the organizer, I
> left my beloved Kisch in the bank (-=sigh!=-) and whooped out
> the ol' Obsidian Shard. The Shard (from all I have read is
> SUPPOSEDLY a simple 30pt DD proc. right? Well, imagine my
> suprise when a few ticks (not sure hopw many) after it procs,
> I get the old "The Obsidian Shatter effect has worn off"
> message. Question: Was there an update to this weapon that
> I missed? (haven't used it in over a month)
> btw... No matter what Abashi says, Necro and Bard fears STILL
> work in the Arena's PvP zone, and in a Duel(he even replied
> to a post of mine about it saying they disabled it).
>
> -=B=-
> Barrd Talespinner (aka NOR Bard)
> Count of the New OutRiders
> Troll-Smacker Emeritus
> 28th Season of filling The Rathe with song
> Creator of BS Titles
> And One Helluva Nice Guy ;o)
>
>
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>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:01:08 -0700
From: "Reeves, Patrick W" <pwr3@...>
Subject: RE: Plane of Sky
Mechanical lockpicks are the ones made by gnomish tinkerer's. Gordon said
they are no more effective then store bought lock picks.
Rokenn
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sylly Songsynger [mailto:jgs@...]
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 6:55 AM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [eqbards] Plane of Sky
>
>
> What about gnomish lockpicks? I thought they raised your skill in
> lockpicking?
>
> Sylly
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rokenn Swiftsong" <rokenn@...>
> To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 4:03 PM
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Plane of Sky
>
>
> > Sounds fishy, since VI has stated it the past that no items
> would boost
> > skills in the that matter.
> > I believe they answered that when Gordon was asked if
> mechanical lockpicks
> > added anything to the lock pick skill and his answer was no
> and no items
> in
> > the game would add to a skill.
> >
> > Rokenn
> >
> > >From: "Garramone, Michael (CCI-Las Vegas)"
> <garramone@...>
> > >Reply-To: eqbards@egroups.com
> > >To: "'eqbards@egroups.com'" <eqbards@egroups.com>
> > >Subject: RE: [eqbards] Plane of Sky
> > >Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 14:44:21 -0400
> > >
> > >i wish i could find it but i can't now, but what i read from a
> guildmember
> > >of mine who says he spoke with some people at verant, is
> that all of the
> > >PoS
> > >quest items have hidden stats that are not shown, so even
> though the
> stats
> > >may look bad, you are far more effective wearing any PoS
> item than not.
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:01:09 -0500
From: "Sylly Songsynger" <jgs@...>
Subject: Re: bardsong
*applauds*
Great song!
Sylly
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From: "Webber, Jessica" <webber@...>
To: <eqbards@onelist.com>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 1:41 PM
Subject: [eqbards] bardsong
> Some spend their lives staring at pages
> My time's better spend performing on stages
> Some spend their strength swinging a sword
> My strength returns with a beat or a chord
> Some waste their words on pets of mystic design
> My words are weapons, battle and glory are mine
> Some waste their money on scales and on wings
> Do they not see magic in everyone who sings?
> Some say bards are weak, but do they know we are fun?
> We are the jack of all trades, if the master of none
>
> Peace
> Evulia, bard of 10 songs, Tunare
>
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:09:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Benjamin Jerrad Segal <birdman@...>
Subject: A theory on clarity
I've had the opportunity to play a shaman recently (level 49), and noticed
that mana/health regens at 6 second ("tick") intervals. At first I
thought Cannibalism to be inefficient, but after discovering this I found
timing the stand -> cast -> sit pattern between ticks, I could use both
effectively (med and cann).
I believe clarity (Cassindra's Chorus) puts a "clarity counter" on
everyone in the group. When the tick occurs, the counter is removed and
additional mana is granted to the holder. This would explain why it is
possible to weave one other song in addition to clarity without diluting
it's effectiveness.
I was thinking about this topic because I don't like the common ideology
of "direct mana addition per pulse," when starting/stopping the song
doesn't add anything over simply singing it straight (despite the doubled
number of pulses). The big question, of course, is: Will the Cantata of
Replenishment stack with the Chorus of Clarity?
Athren
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:57:23 -0500
From: "Jeff Illian" <jeff@...>
Subject: Re: Lame List of New Spells
> Much as I've enjoyed using it, I can attest to it's power, and perhaps
> overpower. In Hate this weekend, my job became crowd control. Whenever
> two things came in on a pull, I would charm the second, command it to
/pet
> guard here (sit down always made them wander off), run a ways away, and
> reassert charm till it broke and retook. Working in concert with an
> enchanter casting tashania, I could charm anything that came in save
> clerics (never tried) and spites.
I finally feel like my old level 30 self again. This weekend I led an
Efreeti run. On the third pull someone wandered off a little too far and
agroed 2 Lava Guardians and 3 Imps right after we had finished off an imp.
Our enchanter went OOM after the first of the 3 remaining Imps fell leaving
me to crowd control alone. Using Charm on one of the imps, I was able to
keep both imps busy while we were able to finish off the lava elementals
and
then the imps with no further casualties :). From that point forward, the
enchanter and I had it worked out so that I would charm the extra incoming
in each pull and keep them busy while he mezzed singles. I would then tell
him when the charm broke so he could start mezzing my pet. This had the
nice effect of keeping the imp pounding on me instead of the enchanter
until
he could get the mez to stick as well as giving us an extra hand in battle.
We repeated the process every time mez broke as well with great success.
The enchanter barely took damage the rest of the break in and used a lot
less mana.
I was EXTREMELY tempted to attempt pulling for this raid... I really
wanted
to try out a combination of Lament and charm to pull on these to see if I
could really control the pulling better then the monk. In the end I went
with traditional break in techniques but I'm not so sure the traditional
break in is the best way to go anymore. Have any of you tried Lament on
the
Imp or Lava guardians or been the puller for the Efreeti raid? If Lament
would work, I really think that a single well balanced party of 6 might be
able to handle the break in alone.... :) If none of you have tried it, I
think I might go for it next weekend...
BTW, 2 Efreeti in the first 3 spawns and then we were shut out with only
place holders for the next 10 hours...
Taneran Dreamweaver
<Clan Jax>
Bard of the 48th song
Prexus
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:02:09 -0400
From: Greg Gillan <ggillan@...>
Subject: RE: Lame List of New Spells
Yep, have pulled all the way up to the efreeti. Works great! :)
Elwyn
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Illian [mailto:jeff@...]
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 10:57 AM
To: eqbards@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Lame List of New Spells
> Much as I've enjoyed using it, I can attest to it's power, and perhaps
> overpower. In Hate this weekend, my job became crowd control. Whenever
> two things came in on a pull, I would charm the second, command it to
/pet
> guard here (sit down always made them wander off), run a ways away, and
> reassert charm till it broke and retook. Working in concert with an
> enchanter casting tashania, I could charm anything that came in save
> clerics (never tried) and spites.
I finally feel like my old level 30 self again. This weekend I led an
Efreeti run. On the third pull someone wandered off a little too far and
agroed 2 Lava Guardians and 3 Imps right after we had finished off an imp.
Our enchanter went OOM after the first of the 3 remaining Imps fell leaving
me to crowd control alone. Using Charm on one of the imps, I was able to
keep both imps busy while we were able to finish off the lava elementals
and
then the imps with no further casualties :). From that point forward, the
enchanter and I had it worked out so that I would charm the extra incoming
in each pull and keep them busy while he mezzed singles. I would then tell
him when the charm broke so he could start mezzing my pet. This had the
nice effect of keeping the imp pounding on me instead of the enchanter
until
he could get the mez to stick as well as giving us an extra hand in battle.
We repeated the process every time mez broke as well with great success.
The enchanter barely took damage the rest of the break in and used a lot
less mana.
I was EXTREMELY tempted to attempt pulling for this raid... I really
wanted
to try out a combination of Lament and charm to pull on these to see if I
could really control the pulling better then the monk. In the end I went
with traditional break in techniques but I'm not so sure the traditional
break in is the best way to go anymore. Have any of you tried Lament on
the
Imp or Lava guardians or been the puller for the Efreeti raid? If Lament
would work, I really think that a single well balanced party of 6 might be
able to handle the break in alone.... :) If none of you have tried it, I
think I might go for it next weekend...
BTW, 2 Efreeti in the first 3 spawns and then we were shut out with only
place holders for the next 10 hours...
Taneran Dreamweaver
<Clan Jax>
Bard of the 48th song
Prexus
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:26:35 -0500
From: "Sylly Songsynger" <jgs@...>
Subject: Lord Grim: aLive and Undead in South Karana
Sylly spent the weekend camping Lord Grimrot. Ugh.
Why bother? Well, old Grimmy drops stuff that you need for the Aegis of
Life, a Clr & Ppal only, AC 12, +10 wis +25 sv Disease, 1 charge Superior
Heal. And it can be equipped in your back slot making this a very
desirable cloak - heh. The Grimmer is a long spawn (maybe 3 or 4 times in
real time 24 hours for the live version and my guess is once per 24 for the
dead version.) You need his scythe (common) and his heart (uncommon.) He
drops 2 scythes, both lore, one is no drop. He spawns in 2 versions: live
lev 35-39 highly magic resistant human SK or lev 25 undead skel form.
Sometimes you get 1 live, sometimes 1 undead, sometimes 1 live and 1
undead at the same time, sometimes 2 lives, and of course sometimes 2 lives
and 1 undead. And he has a large agro range.
For 49 levels, I saw this guy maybe 2 times - ran past him to zone on the
stone bridge after he bashed me good. Now in the past month, I have been
in nearly 10 Grim kills. Solo'd him one time when I met him on the bridge
- he was at half health and I nearly died and I was 48 or higher. The rest
of the kills have been with at least a co-level of higher cleric. At 50
both me and the cleric, get knocked to about half health before he dies.
He is a meanie! The undead version is lots weaker. One time, I had
Ghanex Drah charmed and was killing skellies when the undead Grim spawned.
Heh, my pet died but so did Grim.
And now for the kicker, you need insanely high faction to complete the
quest. Like highest of all the highs. It's pretty funny to see my DE
Cleric friends turning in bones, gold, rabid pelts, etc etc to get their
factions up but somehow they manage. Heh, what is this dark elf doing in
the Temple Of Life talking to clerics and paladins?!?!? Rumor has it, this
has been changed on test server and the faction it takes will be high but
not as high as it is now. And then there will be a flood of campers??? Who
knows.
Anyhow, my high elf Clr friend got her shield this weekend and my DE Clr
got his parts and is finishing his faction. And a 3rd just needs a scythe.
And we met a couple more who are in the process. When I dinged 40 and the
last blue avo turned green, I thought that was the end of my long hours in
South Karana - heh guess not. Got to see the Pegasus 2 times over the
weekend for the first time ever. No sight of GrizzleKnot nor Coloth
Meadowgreen (who I owe a couple deaths to.)
Sylly Songsynger
<The Pantheon>
Bardette of 50 songs
... somewhere on Innoruuk
http://www.sba.uwm.edu/jgs/sylly
p.s. took off work on Friday so I could stay up all Thursday night in the
new Hateville. Set my alarm for 8pm and took a short nap. Woke up at 5am.
Grrr.
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:08:17 -0700
From: "Reeves, Patrick W" <pwr3@...>
Subject: RE: Lame List of New Spells
The last efreeti raid I went on was at 48th lvl. At that time I decided to
test lament to see how well it would stick. So I memed it and tossed it
into my battle weave. at 48 with an unbuffed cha of about 115 I was
getting
resisted about 40% of the time. I am itching to try it now on a single
party break in to Efreeti :)
Rokenn
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Illian [mailto:jeff@...]
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 7:57 AM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [eqbards] Lame List of New Spells
>
>
> > Much as I've enjoyed using it, I can attest to it's power,
> and perhaps
> > overpower. In Hate this weekend, my job became crowd
> control. Whenever
> > two things came in on a pull, I would charm the second,
> command it to /pet
> > guard here (sit down always made them wander off), run a
> ways away, and
> > reassert charm till it broke and retook. Working in concert with an
> > enchanter casting tashania, I could charm anything that came in save
> > clerics (never tried) and spites.
>
> I finally feel like my old level 30 self again. This weekend I led an
> Efreeti run. On the third pull someone wandered off a little
> too far and
> agroed 2 Lava Guardians and 3 Imps right after we had
> finished off an imp.
> Our enchanter went OOM after the first of the 3 remaining
> Imps fell leaving
> me to crowd control alone. Using Charm on one of the imps, I
> was able to
> keep both imps busy while we were able to finish off the lava
> elementals and
> then the imps with no further casualties :). From that point
> forward, the
> enchanter and I had it worked out so that I would charm the
> extra incoming
> in each pull and keep them busy while he mezzed singles. I
> would then tell
> him when the charm broke so he could start mezzing my pet.
> This had the
> nice effect of keeping the imp pounding on me instead of the
> enchanter until
> he could get the mez to stick as well as giving us an extra
> hand in battle.
> We repeated the process every time mez broke as well with
> great success.
> The enchanter barely took damage the rest of the break in and
> used a lot
> less mana.
>
> I was EXTREMELY tempted to attempt pulling for this raid...
> I really wanted
> to try out a combination of Lament and charm to pull on these
> to see if I
> could really control the pulling better then the monk. In
> the end I went
> with traditional break in techniques but I'm not so sure the
> traditional
> break in is the best way to go anymore. Have any of you
> tried Lament on the
> Imp or Lava guardians or been the puller for the Efreeti
> raid? If Lament
> would work, I really think that a single well balanced party
> of 6 might be
> able to handle the break in alone.... :) If none of you have
> tried it, I
> think I might go for it next weekend...
>
> BTW, 2 Efreeti in the first 3 spawns and then we were shut
> out with only
> place holders for the next 10 hours...
>
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:39:04 -0400
From: "Kevin L. Crawford" <Lyrnia@...>
Subject: Re: Shard procs
Obsidian Shard (and the Obsidian Flamberge) both have the "Obsidian
Shatter"
effect.
The Obsidian Shatter Effect has these properties:
1) DD 30 DMG
2) DEBUFF: -10 AC for approximately 6 heartbeats (Tics)
It's not a DoT, but it is a Debuff. Therefore you will get the message
that
it wore off.
Hope this helps
Lyrnia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Mann" <dabard@...>
To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 9:39 AM
Subject: [eqbards] Shard procs
> Saturday night, my guild held a promo/FFA event for our members and
recruits in the Arena (the zone). All folks engaging in the event were
told
to un-mem any DoT spells/songs, and leave any weapons that proc DoT's
either
in the bank, or unequipped. Seeing as I was the organizer, I left my
beloved Kisch in the bank (-=sigh!=-) and whooped out the ol' Obsidian
Shard. The Shard (from all I have read is SUPPOSEDLY a simple 30pt DD
proc.
right? Well, imagine my suprise when a few ticks (not sure hopw many)
after
it procs, I get the old "The Obsidian Shatter effect has worn off" message.
Question: Was there an update to this weapon that I missed? (haven't used
it in over a month)
> btw... No matter what Abashi says, Necro and Bard fears STILL work in the
Arena's PvP zone, and in a Duel(he even replied to a post of mine about it
saying they disabled it).
>
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:41:02 -0500
From: "Jeff Illian" <jeff@...>
Subject: Re: Lame List of New Spells
Hmm, I was buffed and in charisma gear for charming so my charisma was
about
190 or so. Bet that would help the Lament resist rates :).
BTW, I only got one resist on my charm the entire break in... Not bad :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Reeves, Patrick W <pwr3@...>
To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Lame List of New Spells
> The last efreeti raid I went on was at 48th lvl. At that time I decided
to
> test lament to see how well it would stick. So I memed it and tossed it
> into my battle weave. at 48 with an unbuffed cha of about 115 I was
getting
> resisted about 40% of the time. I am itching to try it now on a single
> party break in to Efreeti :)
>
> Rokenn
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Illian [mailto:jeff@...]
> > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 7:57 AM
> > To: eqbards@egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [eqbards] Lame List of New Spells
> >
> >
> > > Much as I've enjoyed using it, I can attest to it's power,
> > and perhaps
> > > overpower. In Hate this weekend, my job became crowd
> > control. Whenever
> > > two things came in on a pull, I would charm the second,
> > command it to /pet
> > > guard here (sit down always made them wander off), run a
> > ways away, and
> > > reassert charm till it broke and retook. Working in concert with an
> > > enchanter casting tashania, I could charm anything that came in save
> > > clerics (never tried) and spites.
> >
> > I finally feel like my old level 30 self again. This weekend I led an
> > Efreeti run. On the third pull someone wandered off a little
> > too far and
> > agroed 2 Lava Guardians and 3 Imps right after we had
> > finished off an imp.
> > Our enchanter went OOM after the first of the 3 remaining
> > Imps fell leaving
> > me to crowd control alone. Using Charm on one of the imps, I
> > was able to
> > keep both imps busy while we were able to finish off the lava
> > elementals and
> > then the imps with no further casualties :). From that point
> > forward, the
> > enchanter and I had it worked out so that I would charm the
> > extra incoming
> > in each pull and keep them busy while he mezzed singles. I
> > would then tell
> > him when the charm broke so he could start mezzing my pet.
> > This had the
> > nice effect of keeping the imp pounding on me instead of the
> > enchanter until
> > he could get the mez to stick as well as giving us an extra
> > hand in battle.
> > We repeated the process every time mez broke as well with
> > great success.
> > The enchanter barely took damage the rest of the break in and
> > used a lot
> > less mana.
> >
> > I was EXTREMELY tempted to attempt pulling for this raid...
> > I really wanted
> > to try out a combination of Lament and charm to pull on these
> > to see if I
> > could really control the pulling better then the monk. In
> > the end I went
> > with traditional break in techniques but I'm not so sure the
> > traditional
> > break in is the best way to go anymore. Have any of you
> > tried Lament on the
> > Imp or Lava guardians or been the puller for the Efreeti
> > raid? If Lament
> > would work, I really think that a single well balanced party
> > of 6 might be
> > able to handle the break in alone.... :) If none of you have
> > tried it, I
> > think I might go for it next weekend...
> >
> > BTW, 2 Efreeti in the first 3 spawns and then we were shut
> > out with only
> > place holders for the next 10 hours...
> >
> > Taneran Dreamweaver
> > <Clan Jax>
> > Bard of the 48th song
> > Prexus
> >
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:52:42 -0400
From: "Kevin L. Crawford" <Lyrnia@...>
Subject: Charm needs another update on the song analasys site:
Both charms are re-chargeable on RALLOS ZEK _only_
The other two PvP servers it does not work on because your pets are
protected from you there.
~ Lyrnia
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:54:05 +0000
From: John_Senior@...
Subject: Final Hell Level....
Anyone got any tips on good hunting places at level 45? I am currently
almost 1 bub into 45 and am hoping to be out of 45 by the time Kunark is
out.
I have been fighting bats/bugs in sol b (I like camping stone spider
room.....lots of space nice an easy to charm mobs), should I stay here or
is there other 'Hot Spots' for exp that maybe I should try.....I don't like
guard killing, it is dull and boring...
Madagan Songweaver, Bard of 45 Songs <Guardians of Light>
Veeshan Server
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:09:31 -0500
From: "Jeff Illian" <jeff@...>
Subject: Re: Final Hell Level....
Ogre guards INSIDE Oggok is rarely dull or boring and easy to justify as a
role player and there really isn't any place in the game for better XP at
level 45... Positioned down at the bank area or PoD, you'll have a minimum
of 5 spawns plus wanders and there are plenty of challenges to keep you on
your toes. It's not your typical break up the spawn and med in between
scenario like most guard killing is.
----- Original Message -----
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To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:54 AM
Subject: [eqbards] Final Hell Level....
> Anyone got any tips on good hunting places at level 45? I am currently
> almost 1 bub into 45 and am hoping to be out of 45 by the time Kunark is
> out.
>
> I have been fighting bats/bugs in sol b (I like camping stone spider
> room.....lots of space nice an easy to charm mobs), should I stay here or
> is there other 'Hot Spots' for exp that maybe I should try.....I don't
like
> guard killing, it is dull and boring...
>
> Madagan Songweaver, Bard of 45 Songs <Guardians of Light>
> Veeshan Server
>
>
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:18:47 -0500
From: "Daniel P. Sniderman" <fuzzbone@...>
Subject: Re: Final Hell Level....
I'm at 39 - and my new favorite zone is Kedge.. There are lots of people
in
your level range kicking some serious butt.
You have to go to the 3rd level and below to get good loot - but the xp
rocks everywhere...
One of the best Zone Guides I've ever seen has been written (by a Bard no
less!) is available at the following URL:
http://pub5.ezboard.com/ftheconcerthallbackstage.showMessage?topicID=186
3.to
pic
Slyde
----- Original Message -----
From: <John_Senior@...>
To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:54 AM
Subject: [eqbards] Final Hell Level....
> Anyone got any tips on good hunting places at level 45? I am currently
> almost 1 bub into 45 and am hoping to be out of 45 by the time Kunark is
> out.
>
> I have been fighting bats/bugs in sol b (I like camping stone spider
> room.....lots of space nice an easy to charm mobs), should I stay here or
> is there other 'Hot Spots' for exp that maybe I should try.....I don't
like
> guard killing, it is dull and boring...
>
> Madagan Songweaver, Bard of 45 Songs <Guardians of Light>
> Veeshan Server
>
>
>
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:29:14 -0500
From: "Sylly Songsynger" <jgs@...>
Subject: Re: Final Hell Level....
Hmm, SS room already? That is prime xp territory. I love to get guild
groups there. Where will you go at 48,49, & 50? For 45, 46, 47,and to 50
even, I killed alot of spectres - mostly solo (I'd say 80-90% of my 45 was
'solo' - ie ungrouped helpers at times buffing & healing but one heck of
alot of fear/chaining.) Until 47, single pulls are hard unless the spots
are heavily camped. Oasis, Feerott & OOT are the prime spectre spots.
Soloing them is a possibility at 45 but risky. With a partner, should be
quite easy. Another partner spot is Cyndreela outside the TV in the PoF
cave (but that is like guard camping except you fight a caster instead of a
melee class. Kill, heal/med, rinse, repeat.) Other wise, outside
Permafrost
Ice Giants, OOT seafury cyclops, rathe mts hg's, Lower Guk King Room,
Ghoul
Lord Room, Frenzied. Kedge Keep with ppl who know what they are doing and
the correct classes but this is an unlikely pickup group spot.
Sylly.
----- Original Message -----
From: <John_Senior@...>
To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 11:54 AM
Subject: [eqbards] Final Hell Level....
> Anyone got any tips on good hunting places at level 45? I am currently
> almost 1 bub into 45 and am hoping to be out of 45 by the time Kunark is
> out.
>
> I have been fighting bats/bugs in sol b (I like camping stone spider
> room.....lots of space nice an easy to charm mobs), should I stay here or
> is there other 'Hot Spots' for exp that maybe I should try.....I don't
like
> guard killing, it is dull and boring...
>
> Madagan Songweaver, Bard of 45 Songs <Guardians of Light>
> Veeshan Server
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:43:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: <kim@...>
Subject: Re: Lame List of New Spells
On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Benjamin Jerrad Segal wrote:
>
> However, I heard through the grapevine of a bard on another server who
> charmed the Key Master in the airplane to attack Sirran the Lunatic. The
> lucky bard took such a faction hit that he is now scowling to all quest
> NPCs in the zone.
Ouch. Did the Key Master use his DT on Sirran? A couple of
us were joking about charming him to use his DT on Cazic or
Veeshan. :)
--
John H. Kim
kim@...
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:45:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: <kim@...>
Subject: Re: A theory on clarity
On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Benjamin Jerrad Segal wrote:
>
> I've had the opportunity to play a shaman recently (level 49), and
noticed
> that mana/health regens at 6 second ("tick") intervals. At first I
> thought Cannibalism to be inefficient, but after discovering this I found
> timing the stand -> cast -> sit pattern between ticks, I could use both
> effectively (med and cann).
*light goes on*
So that's what the shaman I was grouped with was doing.
> I believe clarity (Cassindra's Chorus) puts a "clarity counter" on
> everyone in the group. When the tick occurs, the counter is removed and
> additional mana is granted to the holder. This would explain why it is
> possible to weave one other song in addition to clarity without diluting
> it's effectiveness.
>
> I was thinking about this topic because I don't like the common ideology
> of "direct mana addition per pulse," when starting/stopping the song
> doesn't add anything over simply singing it straight (despite the doubled
That's what I've been telling people for the last 6 months.
They still insist on describing it as "direct mana added per
pulse" though.
--
John H. Kim
kim@...
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:48:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: <kim@...>
Subject: Vacation
I'm away from the 19th til the 30th. I will be unsubscribing
myself from the list during that time. Have fun in Kunark
all. :)
--
John H. Kim
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:56:41 -0700
From: "Reeves, Patrick W" <pwr3@...>
Subject: RE: Vacation
Have a great vacation John :) I have to wait till then end of June for
mine
:(
Rokenn
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> Subject: [eqbards] Vacation
>
>
> I'm away from the 19th til the 30th. I will be unsubscribing
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> all. :)
>
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:14:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Miriana <miriana@...>
Subject: Plane of Sky Update
Well, the weekend is over, and I spend almost all of it in the Plane of
Sky. This is basically what happened.
Day 1: Cleared Fairies and Azaracks, camped on Gorgalask
Day 2: Cleared Gorgalask and Pegasus, camped on Pegasus
Day 3: Recleared Pegasus, realized it was already 11PM, did some poking
around on Spirocs and jumped off, leaving a necro and cleric on pegasus
Some spoilers for how we handled pegasus/griffons below, as well as some
basic info on spirocs.
Of Griffons and Pegasus, Griffons are noticibly easier. Both of them
split into two sub 55 red cons's (tested w/ Bard Charm) which, when
killed, each spawn another > 55 cons.
The method we use to kill them is fairly simple. 1 group consisting of 2
warriors, 2 clerics, and 2 enchanters, and 4 melee/cleric groups, with
pure casters not really helping except with pets. That 1 group is known
as the "mez group". We kill the first one, and when it splits into 2,
everyone attacks the same target except for the mez group. The 2 warriors
from the mez group attack the other target, tanking it while the clerics
heal and the enchanters chain cast rune 3. The bards keep trying to charm
the first split to give the mez group 18 second breathers. Meanwhile,
everyone else kills the other one and the subsequent triggered spawn.
Finally, everyone kills the remaining spawn that the mez group has been
tanking the whole time.
Keeper of Souls (the boss) is on par with Innoruuk in difficulty, so not
too bad.
Spirocs. All I will say about spirocs is you don't have to combat drop
in. It's perfectly safe to run around most of the island. The agro range
on the spirocs is like 0.1 ft, with the exception of The Spiroc Guardian
and The Spiroc Lord. Despite them consing scowls, they don't generally
attack unless you run right up to a roost.
We got a ton of drops, just nothing for clerics or bards :(.
--
Miriana
Legions of Darkness
Innoruuk Server
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