tonight i found out that no longer will bards in our guild be allowed on
lotto for haste items, ever. (unless it's bard-only)

2 cloak of flames dropped off nagafen last time (i wasn't there or i
would've known about this sooner) and bards were excluded in the lotto. no
more runed bolster belts will be going to bards either. (fbss only likely
one now, and only then if no other guild members that need it are in group
according to guild rules)

i need some pursuasive arguments to back me up. this is a guild of 150+
different players. (tho minus a few bards lately)

i tried a few arguments mentioned on this list, but the leaders of the guild
are pretty sure that since bards have haste songs, they don't need a haste
item. (even tho they stack) being a huge guild, the leaders get whines and
rants all the time, so our chances of convincing them otherwise is very
slim.
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This reply is very late in coming, and I apologize if the thread has been
closed or kabonged. I haven't had much time the last week to read my Email,
and am just now getting to it. However, this post stuck a chord with me (no
pun intended), and I felt it necessary to reply:

Under no circumstances would I remain in a guild that treated me in such a
manner. If I was present to help kill the critter that dropped an item I
could use, I would expect to be included in the lottery if I didnt already
have the item, or one better.

This treatment of bards is ridiculous, and I believe that this type of
thinking needs to be quashed now before it spreads to other guilds and
servers. Its bad enough we often get the back-hand treatment from Verant,
but should we allow our guilds/friends to treat us in the same manner?

-Treehugger and Songmaker
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