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Message ID: 18556
Date: Fri May 12 15:09:03 BST 2000
Author: JasonF
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Guess what? I'm infamous!


Charm does indeed wipe the hate list, and you can KS in the manner that he
described. Easily.

Experience is awarded by damage done, not position on the hate list, but
when individuals (not groups) are attacking a mob those positions correspond
to one another.

Bards are arguably the best powerlevelers in the game for lower levels due
to this. Although I don't do this routinely I have done it for lower level
guildmates once or twice when I happen across them and have some free time.
Engage a critter with your lethal ninja-esque bard-melee to smack it down to
a sliver and then charm it. When charm wears off it will be fixated on your
and "swish, swish" try and hit you because the *damage* list has been
erased, but the *hate* list has not. Your lower level guy then knocks off
the sliver and gets the kill and the experience because the damage list has
be reset by your charm. I say that we are arguably the best because when
Enchanters do this same thing with damage/mem wipe combo there are two
drawbacks for them. One, they use mana so you have to occassionally take a
break and let them med. And two, it's a lot easier for them to accidentally
kill a lower level mob with a spell than for a bard will with weapons.

This I have never done, but the way to KS with this song is the same. The
theory is that you let a caster nuke a mob down to a sliver, charm it and
watch the caster cast on it once or twice more before he realizes that it's
charmed. When it breaks charm, you kill it yourself and get the experience
and loot, because again, the damage list is empty but the hate list is not.

[50 Bard] Crier (Half Elf) <Seekers of Norrath> ZONE: work


> So there I am, camping the lil Sarnak tower near the Frontier
> Mtns zone in
> Ill Omen. About an hour and a half after I had arrived, I
> happened to spot
> this single Sarnak recruit *walking* (the emphasis will be explained in a
> sec) up to the base of the tower, and heading up the hill. This
> was not too
> terribly long after a Sarnak train had passed by the same spot.
>
> Well, there I am, there is this strolling Sarnak... I'm *hunting*
> Sarnaks... what luck, eh? As i begin fighitng this lil bit of scrumptious
> exp, some lugnut named Synd comes up and tells me to pull my own spawns,
> then turns around and scurried off.
> ???
> As soon as I got done with the next Sarnak (the one that
> jumped me after
> the one I supposedly stole), I told him that the critter was walking,
> therefore seemed to be un-engaged, and I had no way of knowing that anyone
> had pulled it. (If I had known, I certainly wouldn't have even bothered
> casting on it, I can find my own stuff to kill :oP ) He then proceeds to
> curse at me (which I reported... heeheehee) then tossed the big stunner at
> me: "You are an infamous KSr." I thought I was gonna hurt myself
> laughing!
> I told him that a bard KS'r was just tooo funnny. he then began
> telling me
> how his roomate has a level 51 bard, and we can use the charm song to KS,
> and there's a proc bug, yadda, yadda, yadda, etc, etc.
>
> I guess it didn;t matter that if I hadn;t broken the spawn,
> he wouldn;t
> have been able to pull in the first place, or that if his critter wasn't
> acting in an engaged-type manner (actually, it looked like it was just
> returning from that earlier train), then it's hardly fair to say that
> someone "stole" it from you.
>
> I told him that the charm, to my knowledge, has never been
> able to wipe
> the hate list. I didn't bother to remind him that exp awarded isn't based
> on hate list anymore, but on damage done. His arguementative response was
> something along the lines of "you should know more about the class you
> play"... Hmmm... can't be much of a KSr if I don't know diddly about my
> class, now can I?
>
> I just thought the rest of you would get a real kick out of
> knowing that
> bards (at least in some folks' eyes) are the "best KSrs in the
> game". Class
> envy, gotta love it.
>
> -=B=-
> Barrd Talespinner
> 31 on The Rathe
> "Infamous KSr"