Sar,
I don't dissagree. Most of the FoH people I have met are very nice, as
individuals. And they're extremely nice to each other. They work VERY well
together. I know several founding members from Beta (Klague comes to mind).
However, as a GUILD, FoH is one of the most arrogant, least willing to work
with others, most egotistical and loudmouthed guild on the server. I WAS A
guide so I know they don't have GM's in their pockets. I also know that
their attitude and behavior on Veeshan has gotten their GM, all their
officers and several members suspended periodically.
No, they don't intentionally train.
No, they aren't generally rude or crude to other players.
Yes: They do own spawns by rotating people in and out.
Yes: They do KS if they feel justified
I personally have experienced this from FoH. I forget their names but way
back when Drelz still dropped Jboots I was in there, having logged on at 6am
with 2 friends to get the jboot camp. The server had JUST come up and we
got the Jboot Spawn.
Now, as we all know Veeshan has LONG used the list system. A Group gets the
room and other groups/people get on a list to get into it when that group is
done.
Along comes someone from FOH (troll warrior) and DEMANDS To be given the
spawn.
We, naturally, refused. And I told him he was welcome to join the group and
he could loot the boots when it was his turn. He said 'no, I will get first
loot'.
We ignored him and refused to let him in. Shortly thereafter about 4
members of FOH, including a 50 wizard showed up. Needless to say the
Wizard started KSing us (luckily the ones he KS'd didn't have boots)
regularly so we called in a guide.
Luckily we managed to get the boots while he was medding and then we left.
I know this isn't the _norm_ for FOH but it happens often enough and to
enough different people that they get a very bad name. It doesn't help that
if you talk to one of the officers they flat out deny it and don't even
appologise for the behavior of their members. Myrlyn was one of the few
who would try to smooth things over and from what I understand Furor
basically kicked him out of the guild.
I'm sorry that FoH has such a bad rap. But they've earned it over the past
several months. Calling other guilds "Farmers" and "campers" just because
they went into Hate 8 hours after FoH left. I've seen them come in and KS
Nagafen when another guild was still fighting him. With the excuse that "He
would have killed you anyway" and absolutely no remorse or apology for
KS'ing the dragon, taking all the loot and calling the other guild a bunch
of losers among other things.
Sorry Sartori. I have friends in FoH too. But I don't let my friendship
blind me to the fact that the guild, as a whole, not everyone, but overall,
is a pack of thugs.
I am not stating this as a flame. Merely laying out the reasons why FoH has
earned their reputation. It's been a year since release. They've done
nothing to improve relations with other guilds. In fact they've alienated
almost every other guild on the server. And they've alienated most of the
players too.
Yup, I got a lot of friends in FoH
Do I like them? Yup
Do I like the guild? Hell no, never will
Lyrnia Jongleur
Bard of Norrath
PS: In fact I refused to join FoH because of these attitudes that the guild
(as a whole, not individually) has.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jay schultze" <sartori69@...>
To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 5:37 AM
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Race to 60 (OT)
> They're the most powerful guild on Veeshan. Because of this, your question
> will most likely be answered with the typical: They're powergaming losers,
> they KS and train people hourly and on purpose, they have GM's in their
back
> pockets, they take over zones and push everyone else out, they perma-camp
> spawns by rotating people in and out to keep someone on the spot, they're
> all arrogant egotistical pricks (a couple are, but every guild has those),
> they're all kewld00ds that don't give a shit about role-playing (some are
> some aren't, same as any other guild), they farm items to e-bay them
> (LAFFFF), and they own all dragons/planes. The funny thing is none of that
> is true, but people tend to belive whatever they read, and the best form
of
> publicity in an online game is word of mouth, so...
>
> Usually, the Veeshan forum on eqvault is spammed and trolled with flames
> stating one or more of the above items, and the person gets shot down,
> but...they keep it coming.
>
> I know enough about them (being former-FoH myself) to know that they
aren't
> deserving of all of the flames, but it happens anyways.
>
> Sartori D'Elsiraad<Legion>
> 52nd Bearer of the hard, plain truth
>
> >From: "Kimes, Dean W." <dean_kimes@...>
> >Reply-To: eqbards@egroups.com
> >To: "'eqbards@egroups.com'" <eqbards@egroups.com>
> >Subject: RE: [eqbards] Race to 60 (OT)
> >Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:25:46 -0600
> >
> >FoH? Not familiar with them, but then again the people I associate with
> >are
> >definitely on the 'game' end. Who or what is FoH?
> >
> > Kit
> >
> >That ranger is a character, not a player. About 5 people played it 24/7
to
> >get it to 60 that fast. He's a member of FoH... need I say more?
> >
> >It's not a game... it's a business.
> >
> >At least to them.
> >
> >heh
> >
> >Kev
>
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