Multi-guild/unguilded raids suck. Why? Here's my reasons:
1) Everyone has their own opinion on looting rights and feels like they have the perogative to voice
it. Every non-guild Efreeti raid or dragon raid or planes or fire giant raid has resulted in arguments
over loot...
2) No one feels obligated to stay. If it takes an extra half hour or an hour to get the last needed
cleric, expect people to start leaving. Loose that last enchanter or bard and the Vox raid gets
canceled...
3) No one feels obligated to stick around for corpse recovery when things go bad. Once they get their
own bodies they are gone.
4) People get pissed if you don't spend enough time where their loot drops... Kill too many Clerics of
Innoruk and get too much cleric armor and the shamans and tanks start leaving...
The only successful raids I have been on (and yes, I've been on ALOT of unsuccessful ones) have been
primarily a single guild sponsored events that invite a few of us from smaller guilds to fill in the weak
spots.
"Kevin L. Crawford" wrote:
> Uhh we've done it on Test with no guilds whatsoever... With multiple guilds
> and with a bunch of un-guilded people.
>
> You need 3 things: 1 - A leader who is hard assed. 2 - An organizer and
> 3 - a cop to keep track of folks.
>
> As long as everyone can understand their role and group leaders communicate
> well, in the planes you can use OOC as a 'guildchat' area so that all group
> can communicate. Use SHOUT for orders from the leaders and information from
> the various group leaders (IE: Cleric Linkdead etc)
>
> You can do planes with pickup groups you just need to use your head, keep
> folks organized and make sure everyone keeps OOC and shout clear for event
> use. If they wanna chitchat they need to keep it in group/guildsay.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Kev
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kenneth E. Bachman" <kbachman@...>
> To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [eqbards] Guilds and Dragon Raids
>
> > No, but there's more to it than you might think. You need to know how to
> organize groups, buff people,
> > pull stuff, battle tactics, and loot rules. It's probably impossible to
> do this effectively if you're
> > essentially doing "pickup" groups each time. Buffing alone can take hours
> if you don't have it organized
> > well up front. Heck, just getting people into groups can take a couple of
> hours if you don't know who you
> > have available and they aren't organized.
> >
> > If two or three guilds consistently work together, or if one larger (but
> not quite large enough) guild
> > fills in the holes by picking up extra players or another small guild, it
> can work just fine, though.
> >
> > Kenross Cantoforjado, 49 songs, Innoruuk
> >
> >
> >
> > Dan Sniderman wrote:
> >
> > > I know this isn't Bard Related -but no Kabong so far - so I have a
> > > question - is it impossible to do a Dragon or Plane raid with members
> from
> > > multiple guilds?
> >
> >
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