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Message ID: 1912
Date: Mon Jun 14 16:35:20 BST 1999
Author: Steve Fogle
Subject: Range Weapons...


Yes, I have asked this before, but my mail server crashed and I have not
been getting mail until recently - so...

I friend of mine said he read something about a thrown weapon that returns
to the thrower (an axe, I think). My question is, does a weapon like this
exist?

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: Blitz Krieg [mailto:blitz_krieg@...]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 5:27 PM
To: eqbards@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Petition and general opinions


From: "Blitz Krieg" <blitz_krieg@...>

>From: "Kimes, Dean W." <Dean_Kimes@...>
>
>Well, this debate has certainly heated things up. Its clear there is an
>easily definable line between the roleplayers and the powergamers here.


I'm not sure where you draw this line.... Please define it a little more so
I can figure out if you've pre-classified me as a powergamer or a
roleplayer. From your message, I believe you're talking about the Platemail
issue, but please correct me if I'm wrong. If so, I believe you're
labelling me as a powergamer, because, as I've previously mentioned, I
believe our class is Balanced with the use of Plate in mind. I believe that
a Bard that doesn't use Plate is like a Monk that doesn't use his punch
because "Every class can punch". Now, if that doesn't fit YOUR image of a
Bard, then you're more than free to take the AC hit and not wear it....
Please don't tell those of us that do choose to wear plate that we're wrong,
or aren't roleplayers. I am roleplaying the Bard class as Verant designed
it.


>I don't like the idea of bards wearing plate personally, it doesn't fit any
>image of the class from a roleplaying perspective as far as I can see, and
>while sure its nice to be able to absorb more damage, it'd be nice to have
a
>bazooka too. Whether bards can ultimately wear plate or not at some point
>is moot to me, I won't 'cause it doesn't fit my image of a bard. to me
that
>image is more important than being as effective as possible. I kinda wish
>they'd institute something similar to the monk's increased AC when wearing
>light armor for bards as an option, not necessarily better than plate or
>even equal, just better than nothing. If not, oh well.
>
>I like the idea of having some bard specific items. Singing swords,
magical
>instruments, any of these would be great! Most of the other classes seem
to
>have items tailored towards them with the exception of bards. Oh yeah sure
>we can use some warrior's castoff magic weapon, but so can a monk, and just
>like a monk, why would we? It'd sure be nice to see something that bard's
>could make better use of than anyone else.


Bard's are Jack of All trades - Borrowing from many different classes.
We're different than monks, Monks have their own set of skills. Ours are
part fighter, part rogue, part magical, part of many things. I'll use any
weapon or skill that's available to me, that betters my class.

>On most of the other issues I'm pretty close to neutral except for binding.
>The way I see a bard, and certainly the way Verant seems to portray them,
>they should travel more than any other character. To have to do this
>without being able to bind is difficult, and one would think a travelling
>minstrel could bind himself anywhere.


I am wholeheartedly against Bind for Bards. No other Hybrid gets this.
This is reserved for the pure casters. Yes it would be nice to have, but
"it'd be nice to have a bazooka too."

I somewhat agreed with everything on the petition but the Bind and the Exp
issues. I was a little bit peeved to see the petition ask for a bonus in
ability (Bind) that makes the class stronger, and at the same time ask for
less of an exp hit.... We are hybrids. Hybrids have a penalty. We can tank
and cast spells with our songs.... We get a penalty in Exp for that and we
should. As far as soloing... Verant has always said this is a group game.
I don't level any noticeably slower than my GF (High Elf Magician) who I
group with on EVERY kill. So in groups, as Verant designed the game, it's
been my exp that we're not really disadvantaged at all. While Bards CAN
solo and DO solo, I believe Bards belong in a party. If someone chooses to
solo, then they should take the extra penalties for doing so in a group
based game.





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