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Message ID: 19624
Date: Mon Jun 12 19:30:17 BST 2000
Author: blitz_krieg@bigfoot.com
Subject: Re: Random Number Generators


To throw my 2 cents in, since my name was mentioned... :p

A "true" random would be something like a roulette wheel (assuming
it's not fixed by the house :p) or a deck of cards. As far as I
know, there is _NO_ (double emphasis on that one :p) possible way for
a computer to generate a pure random number. But, there are many
ways to "fake" a random number, some better than others. (In my
college statistics classes we used the random number tables in the
back of the book... Open the page, point to the number.. Voila!) I
definately agree with Slyde and all those who say Verant's RNG is
outta whack a bit.

That being said... I don't have firsthand knowledge of Kaesora, but I
can't see any point in why the guy would have lied to me. I offered
him 50 pp for the coin based on what he said, but he ended up giving
it to me for free. So, it wasn't like he was trying to UP the
price. There could be many things going on... Servers could
obviously be slightly different in spawn %'s... Or, more than likely,
the actual spawn % is somewhere between Slyde's and the guy who gave
me the coin's experience with it AND those who've gotten it easily.
Those on Xegony just had an unlucky weekend... Can I still switch to
7th Hammer??? :p

To go slightly off topic here... I find it very amusing watching a
group as each spawn of a rare mob or ph happens. We were in Dalnir's
going for the Necklace of Superiority this weeked for about 12 hours
total. We saw 2 drops the first day in 6 1/2 hours and no drops the
2nd day in 5 1/2. (I had heard the group that was there the night
before us had gotten 1 in 8 hours.) We got the first necklace after
a little over 2 hours time. As the 2nd segment of 2 hours
approached, people started talking about how it must be set on a "10
spawn timer". (Spawn time is 13 minutes if you want to do the math
at home :p) After that 2 hours expired, it turned to "We're due for
it to spawn". Now, I get caught up in this myself (especially when
you're totally bored camping greens, when the only thing that even
gives exp is the mob you're looking for), but this is the kind of
thinking that causes people to go broke in Vegas. :p

From the few samples (I admit, it's not large enough of a sample size
to really tell.. would need several hundred spawn cycles), I'm
putting my money on The Kly being a 5% spawn. And just try
convincing those of a superstitious nature that if you go 19 kills
without The Kly that you really, no _REALLY_ don't have a better
chance of seeing him on the next spawn. :-D

The good news is: the RNG turned up a 334 on a /random 1 392 and I
won the 2nd Necklace!!! Now I've got the headache of trying to
decide whether to keep it, or trade it. :)

Darkfox Reven'tsol
Xegony