Of course thier your opinions, I don't think anyone on any message system states facts without stating
that it is one =)
Maybe it's just the fact that I am not a newbie. Been around long enough to have the mentality that a
warrior item goes to the warrior instead of "Rolling" for it. =)
That's probably why I get confused at the "Price check" phenomena that has just recently (Last week or
two) started on my server.
You stated a few reasons to prices... There is one more...
Can the thing that drops it be soloed by the person that is interested....
I have been in the market for a Necklace of superiority on my server. I have Kunark, but my computer
freezes there. So I have been trying to trade for one. Only to turn away 15 offers to date because I could
solo the monster that drops it. (At least when I compare myself to others of the same calibur of playing
as myself.)
Sorry if I sounded like I was stating facts in my post. I did not mean to insinuate that all price guides
are invalid. Just that my opinion of them are really really low. As soon as someone I am trading with
mentions that XXX website lists thier trade item at XXX price, I tell them that I will not bother to
acknowledge that price.
Blitz Krieg wrote:
> I understand what you're saying, but aren't the people saying "Price Check
> on a XXXX!!!!" asking around on their server? They're doing what you're
> suggesting. Also, if you notice the reasoning (after the approximate prices
> I listed) took into consideration some of the "Are you happy" type of
> questions you asked.
>
> That said, I do understand the concept and the flaws in the "priceguide"
> system, and you can peruse the actual bids and weed out the obvious fakes.
> I do not believe that the priceguides are THE price for any item. But, I
> know that Xegony is one of the original servers, thus sharing more similar
> economies to more servers than any that came later. Starting with this
> price as a guideline is a safe bet. It was a little easier pre-Kunark to
> ask around the server as the items had been around for awhile and more
> people knew their approximate value. With all the new items from RoK, it
> makes it much more difficult to even know WHAT exists out there, much less
> know the value for it. I am surprised constantly by the new items I loot
> and have to consider whether the item is a "cash item" or a trade item. And
> people I ask many times have no clue to the price and actually ask me the
> stats! :)
>
> There are several things that establish a price. Obviously Supply and
> Demand are the biggest. How badly somebody wants an item is a 3rd. A high
> end Ranger Only sword would go for more than a Bard Only sword with the
> exact same stats. Why? There are more rangers than bards. If both those
> same items were pre-Kunark they'd go for less on an aged server than a new
> server. Why? There are more items in population. If you look closely and
> consider the flaws, the pricing guides all take this into consideration
> obviously as these are (hopefully) REAL trades.
>
> I agree with the other statement someone made about buying a car... I would
> always check priceguides and alternatives first... I may be happy with the
> price, but I would sure be pissed off to find out after it was too late that
> I was ripped off. Even if I could afford the payments and they didn't seem
> to high at the time.
>
> I've used the priceguides as just that, guides, for a long time now, and
> I've had lots of success with it. I've had people send me tells saying,
> "You'll never get 30k in trade value for an Arbitor's Longsword"... I laugh
> to myself and tell them, "Okay" and proceed with dealing with the person
> offering that or more. If there is no person offering that or more, then I
> obviously would lower my standard, but what they're telling me is THEY would
> not pay that for the item. That's perfectly fine... I'll trade it to
> someone else. :)
>
> As far as the Selo's Drum... I'd more than likely use my tambourine and try
> to loot the selo's drum than trade 15k in value for it... But, I'd be ALOT
> more open to trading 15k in value for it if I knew that it was a typical
> price and I wasn't being ripped off. It's on my list of WANTS, but there
> are many items on that list and I only have a limited "budget" to work with.
> :) I will probably only see ONE Arbitor's Longsword in my Bardic life... I
> don't want to throw it away for JUST Singing Steel Gaunts, even tho I
> really, no REALLY want them. :)
>
> btw, in case anyone doesn't know ~ means "approximately"
>
> Anyway, these are just my opinions, I don't presume to think that everyone
> or "anyone" shares them, but I do know there is reasoning behind them. :)
> YMMV
>
> Darkfox Reven'tsol
> Xegony
>
> Randy Keith wrote:
> > No offense but all those sites out there with "Priceguides" are worthless.
> If you want to get an idea what
> > something is worth. You MUST only ask around on your server. Other servers
> vary wildly in pricing.
> >
> > Those websites get the children posting prices of 250 plat for a item that
> goes 10K+ on every other
> > server. Throws off the pricing.
> >
> > The way to know that you are getting a good deal?
> >
> > Ask yourself one question. Are you happy with what you are getting?
> >
> > I always wondered about this new phenomenon on my server called "Price
> Check on a XXX!!!!!". It inundates
> > the chat channels whenever there is a single auction. Now I know the
> reason, it's sites like this one with
> > the "Price" of items on it.
> >
> > You ask later in your post about the value of a Selo's drum. I refer you
> to the question above. Are you
> > happy with what you are paying for it?
> >
> > blitz_krieg@... wrote:
> >
> > > Swarmcaller is one of the top Ranger only 2HS weapons in the game.
> > > My sources ( www.maximumeq.com ) say it's worth ~20k. Those same
> > > sources say the Jade Mace is worth ~12k. Face value says, no it's
> > > not a good trade. :) But, consider the Jade Mace is the best Bard
> > > wieldable 1HB weapon in the game AND has better dam/delay ratio than
> > > the Symphonic Saber and Harmonic Dagger (without the proc). You'll
> > > do MUCH better with the mace in your primary hand than with a Yak...
> > > Keep the 2 Yaks, "play" with them for a little while, then sell it
> > > off. :) I'd see what else this guy could cough up to even out the
> > > trade a little and take it in a heartbeat. :)
>
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