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Message ID: 20929
Date: Thu Aug 10 17:22:25 BST 2000
Author: Scott Malin
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Oh this can't be good....


Ok, if someone wants to reply to him, just point out how many times they
"fixed" the druid/ranger/ebony bladed sword root with damage spell and how
they swore up and down that it was fixed each time.

"The root does damage and breaks the root as soon as it is cast"
"We fixed it"

This went on for 2-3 passes of looking at that spell. They don't have a good
track record of properly recognizing the problems we point out as players
are real.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Wasserman" <wassermana@...>
To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 11:58 AM
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Oh this can't be good....


> Kit,
>
> I haven't been under a rock. (although it may have been safer there, maybe
I
> should try it) I've seen and contributed to many of the posts. But when I
> read Abashi's reply, I honestly believe he has absolutely no idea what we
> are talking about when we reference the problems with chains and lullaby.
>
> Quote:
> ------
> "I'm not sure what is supposed to be wrong with chains. Some changes were
> put in to put in a maximum amount that a creature could be slowed prior to
> applying any slowing related to damage. The change was intentional.
>
> As for lullaby, I just said in another thread that Ester, the one who was
> going to look at this, is on vacation, and I'll have to check with her
when
> she gets back. Now that I think of it, I think I may remember someone
> stating that lullaby's current functionality is intended, as it's the only
> thing to keep them from trivializing encounters. I'll have to check with
> Ester when she gets back to be sure."
>
> Like you, I refuse to believe they are outright lying, so I come to the
> conclusion that he has no clue. He remembers the patch that nerfed chains,
> but he doesn't know how it affected the lower level song. Again with
> lullaby, he remembers the last time it was looked at, but doesn't know
that
> we still see a HUGE problem.
>
> Maybe I'm hopelessly optimistic and refuse to see the truth that is
evident,
> but I just can't imagine that he knows and is covering it up. Instead I
> think that he is hopelessly swamped by email, message board postings and
> whatever other work he may have and in that mountain of information, ours
> got pushed to the bottom and never seen.
>
> Draelon Stormsong
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kimes, Dean W. [mailto:dean_kimes@...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 11:37 AM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Oh this can't be good....
>
>
> I generally try to be open-minded, but...
> I agree with you on the experience parts of your post, not a big deal, and
> its not going to change.
>
> On the song related parts of your post though, have you been living under
a
> rock for the last 6 months?
>
> There have been numerous postings to the EQ boards, emails directly to GZ
> and Abashi, posts on the EQ_Caster's Board (which they do read), as well
as
> messages sent thru Baelish (runs EQ_Casters, talks to GZ nearly daily).
>
> Many of these posts have contained ridiculously detailed information on
the
> problems with the broken songs. John Kim and myself have broken the
things
> down statistically to the point where it was readily apparent that the
> resist rates were down to tenths of a percent with variances of +/- 2
tenths
> of a percent.
>
> There is ABSOLUTELY no way they can claim they don't know what we think is
> wrong with these songs and still be truthful. They ARE ignoring us.
> (Harmonic is gone right? If not, my apologies Harm)
> Well maybe they aren't ignoring us, but in that case they are purposely
> lying to us instead. I prefer to assume the former.
>
> Kitasi Faegehearper
>
> 1) They aren't ignoring us. Instead they just have no idea that we think
> there is a problem that needs to be looked at. Abashi is a busy man, I'm
> willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and hope that he missed our
> posts or forgot them.
>
> 2) If we can make them aware of what we think is wrong, then we can get
them
> to look at it and there is a possibility that we can get it fixed. This to
> me is good news. The only problem is how to get our thoughts looked at. I
> suggest we write up a concise description of the problems. (insane resist
> rates on pixie strike and lullaby and ineffectiveness of snare since the
> patch) then we post it to the bug board and the gameplay board, as well as
> emailing it to abashi.
>
> Draelon Stormsong
>
>
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