I can see where Sartori is coming from, and while you may have taken offense
to his response, you shouldn't have. I'm guessing here, but I think Sartori
comes from a day when if you wanted to do fear, you had to break it, and
there were very likely very few groups that were capable of it. The people
that piss him off (I'm guessing) are those that wait lurking outside the
gates for hours on end, hoping for the break-in group to leave so they can
come in and pharm repops at absolutely no risk.
I don't know that he meant to imply that you're one of these people, but
these people do exist. They don't give a damn about breaking a plane, or
actually accomplishing anything, so long as they are somehow able to acquire
their phat l3wt. These people don't care for a challenge, but only for the
rewards. It is perhaps difficult to spend countless hours and deaths on
planar breaks, only to see some farmer who put in no effort wearing more
planar gear than you.
Sadly, these type of people make up a large part of the gaming population,
but to imply that those were your reasons for going to fear were probably a
mistake.
I think its just an easy generalization to make, having been on the inside,
and having experienced the vultures in waiting.
Elwyn <Da`Kor>
59 Bard, Erollisi Marr
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Sniderman [mailto:
fuzzbone@...]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 11:19 AM
To:
eqbards@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Plane of Fear
Sartori - I just turned 48, and I'm in a small guild. But again - I just
turned 48 - never been on a Plane or Dragon raid. I know nothing of Plane
Raids: Fear, Hate, Air, Breaks or Respawns except for whets been posted on
this list - and the Backstage Forum. And let's face it - there hasn't been
much discussion of it.
I had no idea WHAT to expect. I was there to learn. I don't recall any
discussion here of how respawns work in Fear and what to expect. No one
promised me any treasure - no one called it farming. I was simply asked if
I wanted to "join a raid on fear". I posted my experience and asked a
question.
I would love to participate in Breaking Fear. It occurred at 7:30 AM my
time while I was sound asleep (I am a professional musician and was working
until 12:30 the night before - had dinner with the guys in the band - got
home at 3:30). As soon as someone invites me to break fear - I'm in. It's
not like I can organize one myself having participated once in a respawn and
never been on a break...
I posted what I posted to find out if this was typical; to find out what
items do in fact drop there and to ask how the respawn works. I posted this
for all the other Bards who've never been invited on a Fear Raid to know my
experience AND HAVE SOME IDEA WHAT TO EXPECT! (I sure didn't). No one said
they were farming treasure - no one promised me anything. The only thing
was a general belief that things start to respawn in numbers after a good
12-14 hours. They organized 4 full groups expecting to need them all.
I appreciate the information you posted, but I found your post to be
patronizing, sarcastic and even insulting. It seems to me that over the
time, this board has been declining in tone. I worry that we are getting to
the point where people are going to be afraid to post something without
being jumped on. It's not surprising the number of people who have quietly
disappeared from here and stopped posting. It shouldn't be a crime to be
wrong; and even worse - to have an opinion - and my God - asking a question?
Slyde
-----Original Message-----
From: jay schultze [mailto:
sartori69@...]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 6:31 AM
To:
eqbards@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Plane of Fear
How does one go to an already broken Fear plane and not expect to be bored
off his ass? The only time I could see this being even remotely exciting is
if a GM showed up and re-popped the entire zone at once, which they would
only do if some mobs were bugged.
As the other guys said, all imbrued armor is dropped in the Plane of Hate,
unless you get lucky and see it drop on a cube in Fear.
If you want an exciting experience, try not farming Fear for once, and
instead breaking it open on a full pop. You might actually have a challenge
*gasp* and fun. Instead of seeing maybe 2-3 dozen mobs in 5.5 hours, you
will more than likely see 2-3 dozen mobs in your first couple hours,
depending on how efficient your raiding party is. Not only will you kill a
lot more in less time, but you will see more loot drop in a shorter amount
of time. Last time I was on a Fear raid, we saw no less than 8 drops in the
first hour. It reminded me of the candyland that was the original Fear plane
opening.
Actually, I'd have to say that breaking Fear on a full pop is one of the
most fun experiences I have ever had in EQ, next to maybe killing Trak.
Kiting dracolich around is pretty fun too. =)
People farming Fear and then wondering where the fun went baffle me.
This reminds me of a running joke some friends have about farming Fear (if
this offends any of you, oh well):
Lleluvyn says, 'Hail there hardy adventurer, would you be interested in
[Farming The Plane of Fear]?'
Kruegen says, 'How do I farm the plane of fear?
Lleluvyn says, 'It is an easy task, done by many! Simply fetch me [a shovel]
and [Treasure bag] and we can get started! There is a [reward]!
Kruegen says, 'What is the reward?'
Lleluvyn says, 'Ah! The reward you ask? The reward is free [phat lewtz] with
no risk other then [/random 100].
Sartori D'Elsiraad<Legion>
55th Bard, Veeshan
P.S. Fear is currently farmed 24-7 on my server
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