In any case on this planes farming debate, I'd like to thank all who posted
that info. My guild is trying to get some members into planes/dragon runs
now, so when we have enough guild members to do a run (we estimate in about
6 weeks we will be able to get 18 people together for a planes run, so we
will need to fill spots with outside help), we will have some experienced
members.

We will be using some of this info soon (though I'm hoping for Hate raids!)