Slyde, you have trouble charming? I use charm all the time, and have saved
our group by keeping a chromodrake under control when he invited himself to
our wyvern party more than once. I charm in chardok alot too, just have MR
trouble out of the manglers. I wonder what the difference is, that I do
fairly well with charm and you have trouble. I don't have particularly high
charis, and don't use special gear for charming.

/puzzled

Brilinnia Ban'Sidhe
Excalibur, Xegony

PS. Sorry about Chardok the other night, monk misjudged his aggro and one
mangler went to get his pals on the way in.