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Message ID: 21407
Date: Wed Sep 13 22:34:18 BST 2000
Author: Daniel Sniderman
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Abashi's response to a very well thought out post


The theory I believe is - that a great class was created in the beginning.
Essential a true hybrid of every other class in the game! Then GZ - and who
ever else came up with the design and great concept move to other Verant
projects or perhaps leave the company.

We are now left with Abashi and the "Tuning Team" and THEIR vision. What I
just don't get is what they are basing it on. The initial nerf of Lullaby
to 4 mobs is one we all agree with - no problem.

We get the chains nerf. Again - the nerf to the higher level song - no
problem we all agree with that. When they broke the lower one - they
initially said they would fix it. Correct me if I'm wrong - but that was GZ
not GW who said it would be fixed.

Now with GW as lead designer (perhaps there's someone else behind the
scenes - but it sure seems like it's GW) with HIS vision of bards - the
nerfed-Chains functioning sure seems fine with him.

Look at lullaby - same thing. Will we get a change to Pixie Strike and Song
of Twilight? Perhaps simply because we're a squeaky wheel - but I won't be
surprised if not either...

Slyde

BTW - played a short while last night and dinged the necro to 6...

-----Original Message-----
From: Kimes, Dean W. [mailto:dean_kimes@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 2:48 PM
To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
Subject: [eqbards] Abashi's response to a very well thought out post


Well, although it was one of the most thoughtful posts I have seen in a long
time, it got the usual treatment from VI. Here was Gordon's response.

While I'll leave in-depth determination of "role" to those playing it, I
think that you've answered your own question here. Bards are good at so many
things, you're surely here to do some of those things. I feel that Bards
excell at making a good group better. That's my opinion. What's more
important though is, what is a bard's role to you? If you look at it as a
walking-talking mana battery, there's not really much I can do to make you
feel better about it. It's the same issues with the clerics who often
complain that they are a walking-talking hitpoint-battery. You are a support
class. You support the group, and you do it very well. Whether or not you
are happy with that role is up to you.

- Gordon

Pretty pathetic in my opinion. Obviously Gordon just doesn't get it.
There's a huge difference between the satisfaction one gets from saving a
comrade's life (virtual or not) and the satisfaction of knowing that the
druid can get off one more Careless Lightning because you stood around and
played mana battery. What a joke. Obviously in VI's "Vision" bards are not
meant to be real characters. Our role is solely to support other's efforts.
They should have called the class "Sidekick" instead.

Kit

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