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Message ID: 21653
Date: Thu Oct 5 19:44:43 BST 2000
Author: Mott, Mike J.
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Charming Giants


I cant tell you how much of a relief it is to hear the exact
problems I have been having over in Kunark! I now know that the assumptions
I was going on were for Antonica rather than Kunark. Let me ask you this --
how hard is the Dreadlands charming game. The dreadlands seems pretty
crowded with hostiles, which is both an advantage and disadvantage when
charming for obvious reasons.

Lago Bardoon

> > > Also remember that while Hill Giants remember their last pet command
> and
> > > will reattack automatically when recharmed, the Kunark giants will
> not.
> > > You
> > > generally have to reorder them to attack every time.
> > >
> > THIS is the problem I have been having!!!!!
> >
> > Anyone have a trick to this without getting the crap beat out of
> >you?
> >
> > Lago Bardoon
>
> Depends on where you're hunting. The forest giants in the Frontier Mtns
> don't remember their last command when you are having them fight each
> other. However, they do remember if they are fighting other things. So it
> may be good to have giant vs brute battles (kinda like watching one of
> those Japanese monster movies)
>
> In the Dreadlands, I have had pretty decent luck getting the various
> steeps, craigs, and braes to attack each other by always keeping just 1
> charmed and not switching targets. It seems like if I just charm 1 target
> and then switch only if my target is about to die, I can keep them
> targeted
> on each other about 75% of the time (not really quantified, just an
> approximate guess).
>
> I run into problems when I charm the other one instead, as my previous pet
>
> seems to remember how much he hates me and chases me all around the snowy
> tundra despite having my new pet beat his head in.
>
> But just like in FM, I have no problems with my targets aggroing on each
> other if they aren't both giants. Spiders vs yetis vs drolvargs vs giants,
>
> they all hate each other and forget about me as soon as charm kicks in.
>
> ------
>
> As for what to do when both forget about each other and come after you
> even
> after you have charmed one, I have my "target nearest npc" key set at #1
> on
> my number keypad. After I get a charm to stick, I immediately turn back on
>
> selo's, target the other creature, and instead of running directly away
> from them run at a path roughly perpendicular to their incoming path, then
>
> mash the "pet attack" key.
>
> Either my pet will get close enough to hear it and start attacking, or my
> path is at a shallow enough path that the other giant is just barely able
> to hit me before I get out of his range. That gets my pet on him one way
> or
> the other. I suppose if you are a master charmer, before you charm, get a
>
> consonant chain on your intended victim, switch targets and charm your now
>
> faster pet, and give him his order without getting beaten on. I've tried
> this a little bit, but after twisting for a few hours just find this a bit
>
> too tricky.
>
> You still get beat up pretty good at times, and the 1 fatality I've had
> (in
> a long time) was because I had 2 steeps and a brae on me and between their
>
> stuns and interruptions of my songs, couldn't get away. Now I find when I
> get in a tough spot like that, I just run out of their aggro and zone/camp
>
> and return.
>
> Windleaf Mistsong
> Balladeer of the 40th song
>
>
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