Hmm. I wonder if Jeffrey Sue is the same person as Algara Offkey on the
Whineplay forums? In case you don't know who Algara is, she is a bard who
for some reason or another attempts to shoot down many of the issues
Kaearia, Rokenn and other well known bards have been fighting for. She
apparently has no problems with how Verant is handling the many issues
facing bards.
One other point to make. Just because Kitasi (31st level) and I (39th
level) are not high level bards doesn't mean we are not aware of all the
problems higher level bards have to put up with. Both Kitasi and I have
been members of this mailing list since it was created. Because I read this
list as well as the Concert Hall board, I probably know more about the 50+
bard songs than some of the 50+ bards on my server. If you are content with
primarily functioning as a mana battery, then you don't have anything to
worry about. No need for you to get involved with any of the discussions on
these issues. For the other 99% of the bards out there who want full,
working functionality out of the class, then there are still issues to
discuss.
Galtin of E'ci
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Sue [mailto:
jsue@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:28 AM
To:
eqbards@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Abashi finally responds... sort of
heh, the bard's flexibility only increases up to about level 52. once you
start fighting
52+ mobs, you lose the ability to crowd control with charm. so you made it
all the
way to 31 and make sweeping generalizations about the flexibility and
effectiveness
of a bard?
At 09:57 AM 10/11/00 -0600, you wrote:
>I think the 'at some point' means when they are working on EQ2. It was
very
>apparent that nothing that is related to bards is even remotely 'high
>priority'. Bards are at this point pretty much 'one hit wonders'. If it
>were not for manasong the only groups we'd be getting into would be those
>with our friends. Bards have become the most 'group oriented' kiting
>enabled class imaginable. Every reason I had for playing a bard in the
>beginning has been systematically taken away, other than the role-playing
>aspect. But hey! my druid can hold a mandolin as well as anybody!
ummm, by this standard you would never be getting into groups since you
don't
have manasong. but taking a step back and looking at all the classes,
outside
of clerics and enchanters, what class has an ''in'' to get into a group over
all other
classes? none.
>Seriously though. I played a bard because of the tactical flexibility.
>There was actually a choice of which songs to use in which circumstances
and
>at what times. When was it better to Lullaby, when to Chords? When was it
>better to Anthem, and when Psalm? Those days have gone by as each and
every
and you really have all those choices still at level 31. as far as i know,
chords,
anthem, and psalm, as well as hymn, charm, fear, etc all work just fine.
i've
never had the problems with pixie that other bards complain about. i was a
mezzing machine in solb on beetles and ldc's at level 50ish.
>tactical option is deleted or made unusable. I never Chain unless alone
>snare is now far better and only level 1! I never Lullaby unless it's to
you never chain unless alone? maybe you just don't understand the
flexibility
of a bard then.
>help some newbie, and even then it's pretty pathetic. I've given up trying
>to Pixie anything, better to just charm it and be 'protected' when the
spell
>goes off. Verant has successfully taken 90% of the things I loved about
>bards and killed them. All because of some 'balance' issue that never
90%? heh, nice exaggeration. i suppose if the ONLY things you liked about
a bard was snaring and crowd control this might be true. i personally like
a lot
more things about my bard. just as a side note, what is your cha and do you
use a wind instrument when using pixie?
>existed. If bards were so powerful, how come we've always been among the
>rarest classes in a game that's all about power???
because our power is nicely masked. you have to be a good player and
understand
a lot about our songs and the way the game works and other classes before
you can
be that superpowerful bard. most people either don't stick with it long
enough or don't
have enough knowledge to really master the bard class.
> Kitasi, lvl 31 tailor, retired bard
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