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Message ID: 21802
Date: Wed Oct 11 21:04:50 BST 2000
Author: Kimes, Dean W.
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Abashi finally responds... sort of


I agree except on the LUllaby part. The numerical effects of having
resistance rolls every 12 seconds made it far less powerful even back before
the nerf. I could reasonably keep 3 mobs mezz'd but would get all the
damage even from the primary target mob if I did nothing else, the enchanter
could keep the same 3 mobs mezz'd and not take damage from the primary and
still be ready to do other things as needed. I was never the first choice
for mezzing even then, the enchanter always was first choice.

In my opinion, one reversed from long ago, they should just make Lullaby an
instrument only song. That would prevent much of the possible abuse and
also be more in line with bardic concepts in general. I forget now who
originally came up with the idea, but if they changed all the mez line to be
like this, and changed back the resist rates I'd be satisfied at this point.
At least then I would have a choice. Maybe we should organize something to
suggest this very option. It is definitely a face saving way to change
their minds if Verant is interested in such a thing. They would look good
to the bardic community by giving us some of what we want, but still look
good to everyone else by saying "we didn't give them the same power they had
before, but we made a true compromise".

Perhaps something along these lines would work. This would give back much
of what was lost, and come to think of it actually force the bard to be more
defined than ever. Thoughts?

Kit

-----Original Message-----
From: John Tatsukawa [mailto:john@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:00 PM
To: eqbards@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Abashi finally responds... sort of


I can't disagree on this at all. As a matter of fact, I was going to put
the very words in my post "why have them at all?"

The only thing I ever use pixie strike right now is to interrupt spell
casters. It's pretty effective in that regard. It'd be very powerful it it
would stun the mob, but maybe it'd be too powerful.

Lullaby would be an extremely powerful song if it worked even close to the
enchanter's AOE spell. At it's present state it really only is an AOE
taunt. :-P Verant is looking at the play balance issues and I respect
that. But if they believe that the only way to keep play balance is to make
the resists so high and the duration so iffy, then I agree, why have this
song in the first place? They say that this song is working as they see
fit. I can see why they wouldn't want bards running rampant in a dungeon
keeping everything mez'd. But I can't see why any bard would ever use this
song then.

Perhaps Verant should think of adding their "mana" component to this song
and increasing our chances of mezing with Lullaby? That may take care of
their worries about bards running nilly willy mezing everything in sight?

---Windleaf

At 01:34 PM 10/11/00 -0600, you wrote:
>No, but since our mez spells are effectively useless a mere 5 levels after
>we get them, why give them to us at all? Even before the change we were in
>no way as effective as an enchanter in mezzing. Not even close. We went
>from being an acceptable secondary choice to being no longer available as
an
>option where mezzing was required.



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