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Message ID: 22022
Date: Mon Oct 16 15:06:21 BST 2000
Author: Cyr, Thierry
Subject: RE: [eqbards] I posted this to the Everwhatever boards and to the Concert Hall


speaking of balance... you realize in beta bards were the only ones with
mana regen. They gave it to chanters so that chanters would actually be
played cause they sucked so badly in beta, they didnt even have half their
spells. but that's another story...

Minkin

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth E. Bachman [mailto:kbachman@...]
Sent: October 14, 2000 6:45 AM
To: eqbards@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [eqbards] I posted this to the Everwhatever boards and to
the Concert Hall


Making the mez songs require an instrument isn't enough. They're mez songs,
so it's not like we're going
to be attacking anything anyway, which is the only thing that requiring an
instrument prevents us from
doing. The problem is that Verant believes that the AE mez effect is too
powerful. I don't know if they
feel it can be exploited (they seem to be incredibly hung up on the "no
mana" thing), or if this is just a
class balance thing between Bards and Enchanters, but they aren't going to
fix AE mez. It will never
happen.

What's disturbing to me are three things:
1. Their testing indicates that the resists are lower than any of our
testing indicates, which suggests
that: a) they're lousy testers or b) they have a different client or c)
we're all idiots. Their
conclusion, of course, is going to be c), which means that they're going to
be pretty dismissive of
anything we say.
2. They slapped the SAME secondary resist rate that they used to neuter the
AE mez song onto the single
target songs. They seem to believe that this hasty, ill-thought-out
decision is pretty much fine, which
suggests a serious deficiency in their ability to balance Bard songs
appropriately (as if that isn't
obvious by now).
3. They've been promising for a month now to look into the single-target
mez songs at the first possible
opportunity, and even at that level of priority have not managed to get
around to it. Abashi's post
suggests that they've significantly lowered the priority level of this
testing, which means it is likely
to be a cold day in you-know-where before they get around to it.

Kenross Cantoforjado, 53 songs, Innoruuk


"Kimes, Dean W." wrote:

> Here is a constructive idea that would likely make most bards happier,
> return these songs to a being a viable option, and maintain Enchanters
> current position with respect to crowd control.
>
> Make the songs in question require an instrument much the way that
Sonorous
> Clouding currently does. Make a string instrument mandatory for Lucid
> Lullaby and a wind instrument mandatory for Pixie Strike. At the same
time
> remove the secondary resist that has rendered these spellsongs impotent.
>
> I think this change is in line with the bardic theme, makes the songs a
> viable option, and maintains the necessary amount of balance over these
> songs.
>
> Ideas?



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