I have a Prismatic Blade of Turning, and I intend to have the SSS in the
near future. I realize these weapons aren't exactly standard faire for
most bards, but I'm looking more towards an "is this ever possible" than
an "is it always the case that" type of answer. Pre-50 caps are about (or
exactly, I don't remember) the same for weapon skills, so the gap could
only be closed post-50 (with our increased skills) anyway.
Athren
On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Kimes, Dean W. wrote:
> Not when they have Wurmslayer and you don't. ;-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benjamin Jerrad Segal [mailto:birdman@...]
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> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
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> archives....)
>
>
> Yes, that is my thinking as well because of the primary hand bonus,
> however post-50 paladins and shadowknights remain capped at 200 in offense
> and weapon skills, whereas bards continue to grow. This is what I intend
> to test at 60, whether an offense of 230 (this being estimate, offense cap
> was raised from 200+((level-50)*2)) and a weapon skill cap of 230 are
> enough to outdamage the primary hand bonus.
>
> Athren
>
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Kimes, Dean W. wrote:
>
> > Double Attack is twice as good as Dual Wield due to the way offhand damage
> > bonuses work. This might not hold true below 30th level and definitely
> > doesn't hold true below 20th level when the damage bonuses kick in.
> >
> > Kit
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Benjamin Jerrad Segal [mailto:birdman@...]
> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 2:53 PM
> > To: eqbards@egroups.com
> > Subject: Today's Bard (was: Re: [eqbards] going thru the archives....)
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Kenneth E. Bachman wrote:
> >
> > > 1. The Bard's offense sucks.
> >
> > I used to think that bardic melee was less than SK/Paladin level due to
> > the lack of double attack, but now I'm reconsidering. Our offense caps
> > are significantly higher than theirs, and I'm looking forward to testing
> > to determine who's output is higher.
> >
> > > The problem is "the situation". There are 7 things that high-level
> Kunark
> > parties need: 1) crowd
> > > control, 2) primary healer, 3) a tank, 4) a puller, 5) a group gater
> > (sometimes), 6) a lockpicker
> > > (sometimes), 7) secondary healer (sometimes). The bard can't do any of
> > these things other than limited
> > > crowd control, or pulling (which doesn't allow him to play the downtime
> > reducing role), which means that
> > > he doesn't satisfy any of the core requirements.
> >
> > This is a common mistake that many run into. People see that deep in
> > dungeons an enchanter, evaccer, and cleric are all required and think
> > they're always required. There's tons of stuff you can do that doesn't
> > take any of these.
> >
> > I'm often the group's puller due to a combination of knowledge of the area
> > and Lament. When I am, I sing Cantata through battles to help with mana
> > levels, because in these situations there usually isn't an enchanter
> > either.
> >
> > Shamans are the best group makers. There is next to no need for a cleric
> > with turgur's. A shaman friend and I often do the zone-in area to
> > Charasis, we can hold down 8 spawns before they start returning.
> >
> > And get ready for the best change since Kunark was released: Song of
> > Twilight works! I played crowd control/puller for a group of five in the
> > north wing (bard, war, war, dru, cler), and was able to lock down three
> > mobs at once during a particularly bad period of respawning of wanderers
> > that lasted a good six minutes to get under control. Further testing on a
> > clearing to Trak's lair revealed Song of Twilight works on anything an
> > enchanter can dazzle (ilis, krup, shrooms <56, not jugs). Charm has hit
> > the back burner now (I hate having to get hit every 10 seconds to maintain
> > control), the power is back on.
> >
> > Athren Notechaser, 57th composition in progress
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> >
> >
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