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Message ID: 23328
Date: Mon Jan 22 20:03:53 GMT 2001
Author: Cranfill, Wendy
Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)


Wow grats on 47 Minkin :)

How is Annoying Ro treating you.. seems like a lot of peopel are back on
solro plus some new faces.. who are over from cazic-thule server I hear :)

Yes well the good news is that Tani can stay alive long enough to be "whack
whack whacked".. whereas Halana "you have been stunned...".... you are
unstunned.. "you have been stun..".... annoying barbarian death
scream...Loading, please wait =/

Halana/Tani
Solusek Ro

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cyr, Thierry [mailto:thierry.cyr@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 12:45 PM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
>
> I hear you on the receiving end of the whack whack whack part...
>
> This weekend i got my 3rd chant and boy oh boy do the tanks
> have to taunt
> now. It was great cause the lower lev bard in the group would
> do the rest of
> the buffs/songs. Often the mobs would leave the tanks and
> come for me. 3
> chants = Fun fun fun.
>
> Minkin
> Annoyin ro
> Bard of 47 levels
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cranfill, Wendy [mailto:Wendy_Cranfill@...]
> Sent: January 22, 2001 2:03 PM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
>
> I also think it depends a lot on the bard, and on the group as a
> whole...several factors:
>
> 1. How comfortable is the group with bard mezzing?
> 2. How comfortable is the BARD with mezzing? .. How skilled?
> (i.e. can he
> keep far enough away that hes not getting beaten upon...
> 3. How good is the group.. (i.e. assist, giving the bard
> room to mezz etc.)
>
> I've seen both good and bad bards do this... I think the
> biggest factors for
> success are that the bard needs to be comfortable doing it
> and he also need
> to communicate. For instance, I hate charming, i'm still not
> comfortable
> with it. If I'm in a group and someone says "charm it".. i'm
> like .. oh
> ugh.. eep.. uh.. *whack whack whack die* (me not the mob)...
> so I usually
> tell people in the group that i'm nto that good at it yet
> (still practicing)
> and that i would rather either mez or just tank the dang thing.
>
> Halana, 58th Shaman (only 12 VP deaths this weekend!)
> Tani, 40th Bard
> Solusek Ro
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daniel P. Sniderman [mailto:fuzzbone@...]
> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:01 AM
> > To: eqbards@egroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
> >
> >
> > Pixie works pretty lousy. There IS still a secondary resist.
> > My experience
> > in Sebelis is that it resists so much its worse than Charm as
> > far as the
> > need for a heal. At 52 with very good people my experience
> > is still think
> > you need either a cleric or a shaman (slowing mobs) to do the
> > crowd control
> > in Sebelis. With an mediocre group you need a chanter.
> >
> > I had a lot better luck in Karnor. The mobs are low enough
> > level difference
> > that the resistance is not as much an issue (at 52 - at 50 Pixie was
> > resisted a lot) I was able to keep mobs mezzed enough to stay
> > in business.
> > However this was with a VERY good group - but we had a LOT of mobs.
> >
> > Slyde
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeffrey Sue [mailto:jsue@...]
> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:51 AM
> > To: eqbards@egroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
> >
> > At 05:51 PM 1/21/01 -0600, you wrote:
> > >Yes with the RIGHT group (ie bard and shaman instead of cleric and
> > >enchanter) and four other people who are VERY good - you can
> > go without the
> > >enchanter/cleric combo.
> >
> > you don't have to have everyone be that good. just the
> > important spots.
> >
> >
> > >My own personal experience with myself doing crowd control -
> > if I don't
> > have
> > >either cleric healing power - or shaman slowing power - I'm
> > going to get
> > >killed trying to do crowd control in Sebelis. Maybe I've
> > been unlucky with
> > >the group's I've had; and also - I haven't got 53 yet - so
> > I'm relying on
> > >Charm or Pixie Strike - but the point I think is still there.
> >
> > well i wouldn't use charm in sebilis without a shaman or
> > cleric, i would use
> > pixie
> > or twilight. the shaman or cleric just opens up more
> > opportunities for
> > flexibility.
> > note that you've already backed down from the original
> > statement which was
> > that
> > a cleric and enchanter are 100% required for any group post
> > 50 (in a kunark
> > dungeon),
> > and that statement was the only thing i had a problem with.
> > i don't know
> > how well
> > pixie works, they fixed both songs after i had twilight and i
> > always use
> > twilight instead.
> >
> > > But maybe - I'm just mediocre... Regardless -
> > maybe you feel that
> > 80 per
> > >cent of the people in the game are mediocre. Maybe they are
> > - but to me
> > the
> > >game is about having an enjoyable entertainment
> experience; not about
> > >competing.
> >
> >
> > that may be true for you, but the ''hard'' parts of the game
> > need to be
> > tuned to the
> > good players, not the average players. otherwise where are
> > the good players
> > going
> > to go for challenge and fun? (this is all in the context of
> > a single group,
> > not raids like
> > trakanon or vs or other dragons)
> >
> >
> > >Slyde
> >
> >
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