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Message ID: 23328
Date: Mon Jan 22 20:03:53 GMT 2001
Author: Cranfill, Wendy
Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cyr, Thierry [mailto:thierry.cyr@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 12:45 PM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
>
> I hear you on the receiving end of the whack whack whack part...
>
> This weekend i got my 3rd chant and boy oh boy do the tanks
> have to taunt
> now. It was great cause the lower lev bard in the group would
> do the rest of
> the buffs/songs. Often the mobs would leave the tanks and
> come for me. 3
> chants = Fun fun fun.
>
> Minkin
> Annoyin ro
> Bard of 47 levels
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cranfill, Wendy [mailto:Wendy_Cranfill@...]
> Sent: January 22, 2001 2:03 PM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
>
> I also think it depends a lot on the bard, and on the group as a
> whole...several factors:
>
> 1. How comfortable is the group with bard mezzing?
> 2. How comfortable is the BARD with mezzing? .. How skilled?
> (i.e. can he
> keep far enough away that hes not getting beaten upon...
> 3. How good is the group.. (i.e. assist, giving the bard
> room to mezz etc.)
>
> I've seen both good and bad bards do this... I think the
> biggest factors for
> success are that the bard needs to be comfortable doing it
> and he also need
> to communicate. For instance, I hate charming, i'm still not
> comfortable
> with it. If I'm in a group and someone says "charm it".. i'm
> like .. oh
> ugh.. eep.. uh.. *whack whack whack die* (me not the mob)...
> so I usually
> tell people in the group that i'm nto that good at it yet
> (still practicing)
> and that i would rather either mez or just tank the dang thing.
>
> Halana, 58th Shaman (only 12 VP deaths this weekend!)
> Tani, 40th Bard
> Solusek Ro
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daniel P. Sniderman [mailto:fuzzbone@...]
> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:01 AM
> > To: eqbards@egroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
> >
> >
> > Pixie works pretty lousy. There IS still a secondary resist.
> > My experience
> > in Sebelis is that it resists so much its worse than Charm as
> > far as the
> > need for a heal. At 52 with very good people my experience
> > is still think
> > you need either a cleric or a shaman (slowing mobs) to do the
> > crowd control
> > in Sebelis. With an mediocre group you need a chanter.
> >
> > I had a lot better luck in Karnor. The mobs are low enough
> > level difference
> > that the resistance is not as much an issue (at 52 - at 50 Pixie was
> > resisted a lot) I was able to keep mobs mezzed enough to stay
> > in business.
> > However this was with a VERY good group - but we had a LOT of mobs.
> >
> > Slyde
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeffrey Sue [mailto:jsue@...]
> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:51 AM
> > To: eqbards@egroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
> >
> > At 05:51 PM 1/21/01 -0600, you wrote:
> > >Yes with the RIGHT group (ie bard and shaman instead of cleric and
> > >enchanter) and four other people who are VERY good - you can
> > go without the
> > >enchanter/cleric combo.
> >
> > you don't have to have everyone be that good. just the
> > important spots.
> >
> >
> > >My own personal experience with myself doing crowd control -
> > if I don't
> > have
> > >either cleric healing power - or shaman slowing power - I'm
> > going to get
> > >killed trying to do crowd control in Sebelis. Maybe I've
> > been unlucky with
> > >the group's I've had; and also - I haven't got 53 yet - so
> > I'm relying on
> > >Charm or Pixie Strike - but the point I think is still there.
> >
> > well i wouldn't use charm in sebilis without a shaman or
> > cleric, i would use
> > pixie
> > or twilight. the shaman or cleric just opens up more
> > opportunities for
> > flexibility.
> > note that you've already backed down from the original
> > statement which was
> > that
> > a cleric and enchanter are 100% required for any group post
> > 50 (in a kunark
> > dungeon),
> > and that statement was the only thing i had a problem with.
> > i don't know
> > how well
> > pixie works, they fixed both songs after i had twilight and i
> > always use
> > twilight instead.
> >
> > > But maybe - I'm just mediocre... Regardless -
> > maybe you feel that
> > 80 per
> > >cent of the people in the game are mediocre. Maybe they are
> > - but to me
> > the
> > >game is about having an enjoyable entertainment
> experience; not about
> > >competing.
> >
> >
> > that may be true for you, but the ''hard'' parts of the game
> > need to be
> > tuned to the
> > good players, not the average players. otherwise where are
> > the good players
> > going
> > to go for challenge and fun? (this is all in the context of
> > a single group,
> > not raids like
> > trakanon or vs or other dragons)
> >
> >
> > >Slyde
> >
> >
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