And a lot of bards; granted there are a lot of people who LIKE using their
weapons and more power to them (this is a game after all) - but I'm amazed
by the number of group members who tell me that they've never seen a bard
not using weapons during a fight (and I'm talking at places like Sebelis)...
Slyde
-----Original Message-----
From: Reece Tom R CPT 25 ID L G4 [mailto:
g4mntofcr@...]
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 3:36 PM
To:
eqbards@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
Was camping the moat corners in Karnors this weekend. Had a warrior, a
second bard, wizard, cleric and enchanter in the group. I was weaving the
three chants (with Selos drum) during every fight. Based on the numbers
posted on the www.eqsongs.com website, I was doing around 172pts of damage
per tick (when all 3 stuck). As many people have stated before on this
list, this is a helluva lot more damage than I can do with weapons equipped.
Like Minkin, I was doing so much damage to the mob that it almost always
ignored the warrior and attacked me. Still amazes me though when other
classes ask me why I am not meleeing with weapons. Even though the game has
been out for almost two years, there are still a lot of people who don't
realize what all a bard can do.
Galtin
-----Original Message-----
From: Cyr, Thierry [mailto:
thierry.cyr@...]
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 9:45 AM
To: '
eqbards@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
I hear you on the receiving end of the whack whack whack part...
This weekend i got my 3rd chant and boy oh boy do the tanks have to taunt
now. It was great cause the lower lev bard in the group would do the rest of
the buffs/songs. Often the mobs would leave the tanks and come for me. 3
chants = Fun fun fun.
Minkin
Annoyin ro
Bard of 47 levels
-----Original Message-----
From: Cranfill, Wendy [mailto:
Wendy_Cranfill@...]
Sent: January 22, 2001 2:03 PM
To: '
eqbards@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
I also think it depends a lot on the bard, and on the group as a
whole...several factors:
1. How comfortable is the group with bard mezzing?
2. How comfortable is the BARD with mezzing? .. How skilled? (i.e. can he
keep far enough away that hes not getting beaten upon...
3. How good is the group.. (i.e. assist, giving the bard room to mezz etc.)
I've seen both good and bad bards do this... I think the biggest factors for
success are that the bard needs to be comfortable doing it and he also need
to communicate. For instance, I hate charming, i'm still not comfortable
with it. If I'm in a group and someone says "charm it".. i'm like .. oh
ugh.. eep.. uh.. *whack whack whack die* (me not the mob)... so I usually
tell people in the group that i'm nto that good at it yet (still practicing)
and that i would rather either mez or just tank the dang thing.
Halana, 58th Shaman (only 12 VP deaths this weekend!)
Tani, 40th Bard
Solusek Ro
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel P. Sniderman [mailto:fuzzbone@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:01 AM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
>
> Pixie works pretty lousy. There IS still a secondary resist.
> My experience
> in Sebelis is that it resists so much its worse than Charm as
> far as the
> need for a heal. At 52 with very good people my experience
> is still think
> you need either a cleric or a shaman (slowing mobs) to do the
> crowd control
> in Sebelis. With an mediocre group you need a chanter.
>
> I had a lot better luck in Karnor. The mobs are low enough
> level difference
> that the resistance is not as much an issue (at 52 - at 50 Pixie was
> resisted a lot) I was able to keep mobs mezzed enough to stay
> in business.
> However this was with a VERY good group - but we had a LOT of mobs.
>
> Slyde
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Sue [mailto:jsue@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:51 AM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
> At 05:51 PM 1/21/01 -0600, you wrote:
> >Yes with the RIGHT group (ie bard and shaman instead of cleric and
> >enchanter) and four other people who are VERY good - you can
> go without the
> >enchanter/cleric combo.
>
> you don't have to have everyone be that good. just the
> important spots.
>
>
> >My own personal experience with myself doing crowd control -
> if I don't
> have
> >either cleric healing power - or shaman slowing power - I'm
> going to get
> >killed trying to do crowd control in Sebelis. Maybe I've
> been unlucky with
> >the group's I've had; and also - I haven't got 53 yet - so
> I'm relying on
> >Charm or Pixie Strike - but the point I think is still there.
>
> well i wouldn't use charm in sebilis without a shaman or
> cleric, i would use
> pixie
> or twilight. the shaman or cleric just opens up more
> opportunities for
> flexibility.
> note that you've already backed down from the original
> statement which was
> that
> a cleric and enchanter are 100% required for any group post
> 50 (in a kunark
> dungeon),
> and that statement was the only thing i had a problem with.
> i don't know
> how well
> pixie works, they fixed both songs after i had twilight and i
> always use
> twilight instead.
>
> > But maybe - I'm just mediocre... Regardless -
> maybe you feel that
> 80 per
> >cent of the people in the game are mediocre. Maybe they are
> - but to me
> the
> >game is about having an enjoyable entertainment experience; not about
> >competing.
>
>
> that may be true for you, but the ''hard'' parts of the game
> need to be
> tuned to the
> good players, not the average players. otherwise where are
> the good players
> going
> to go for challenge and fun? (this is all in the context of
> a single group,
> not raids like
> trakanon or vs or other dragons)
>
>
> >Slyde
>
>
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