Verant has ALWAYS wanted us to lose our bodies :)
They seem to think we would find recamping for all our armor "fun"
Halana/Tani
p.s. Dain sucks =/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reece Tom R CPT 25 ID L G4 [mailto:g4mntofcr@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 6:00 PM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: [eqbards] Sleeper's tomb
>
>
> A post by Furor on the bug board seems to indicate they have.
> http://boards.station.sony.com/everquest/Forum3/HTML/005868.html
>
> On a side note, Ester the Tester says the Sleeper Tomb key is
> NOT supposed
> to be soulbound. So how are you supposed to get back inside
> if you die?
>
> Galtin of E'ci
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua R. Moore [mailto:josh@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:23 PM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Digest Number 1272
>
>
> Sorry, but Friars of Heathens has NOT been to Sleepers Tomb
> yet. no one has
>
> Alice - "Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to walk
> from here?"
> Cheshire Cat - "That depends a good deal on where you want to get to."
> Alice - "I don't much care where."
> Cheshire Cat - "Then it doesn't matter which way you walk."
> Alice - "So long as I get somewhere."
> Cheshire Cat - "Oh, you're sure to do that, if you only walk
> long enough!"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: eqbards@egroups.com [mailto:eqbards@egroups.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 5:07 PM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: [eqbards] Digest Number 1272
>
>
> Please send submissions for the eqbards newsletter to
> lol@...
> with the subject submissions.
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>
> There are 25 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
> From: Mike <mmerck@...>
> 2. RE: Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
> From: Reece Tom R CPT 25 ID L G4
> <g4mntofcr@...>
> 3. RE: OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
> From: Reece Tom R CPT 25 ID L G4
> <g4mntofcr@...>
> 4. RE: OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
> From: "Daniel P. Sniderman" <fuzzbone@...>
> 5. Re: OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
> From: "Matt DeBarger" <mattdeba@...>
> 6. RE: Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
> From: "Daniel P. Sniderman" <fuzzbone@...>
> 7. Re: High Taunt Weapon?
> From: "Matt DeBarger" <mattdeba@...>
> 8. Re: OT Instruments (was complete heal)
> From: "Matt DeBarger" <mattdeba@...>
> 9. Manasong and Level 34 Soothing
> From: chris.holden@...
> 10. RE: OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
> From: "Cyr, Thierry" <thierry.cyr@...>
> 11. RE: OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
> From: "Cyr, Thierry" <thierry.cyr@...>
> 12. RE: Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
> From: Reece Tom R CPT 25 ID L G4
> <g4mntofcr@...>
> 13. Make way for the newbie!
> From: "Katie " <thefete@...>
> 14. RE: Question on "Drafting"
> From: Reece Tom R CPT 25 ID L G4
> <g4mntofcr@...>
> 15. Re: Question on "Drafting"
> From: "Sean Kennedy" <ksean2@...>
> 16. RE: High Taunt Weapon?
> From: "Kimes, Dean W." <dean_kimes@...>
> 17. RE: OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
> From: Reece Tom R CPT 25 ID L G4
> <g4mntofcr@...>
> 18. RE: OT Instruments (was complete heal)
> From: "Kimes, Dean W." <dean_kimes@...>
> 19. RE: Question on "Drafting"
> From: Adam Wasserman <wassermana@...>
> 20. Re: Make way for the newbie!
> From: chris.holden@...
> 21. RE: Portal in EW at the Dead Dragon???
> From: "Kimes, Dean W." <dean_kimes@...>
> 22. Re: Make way for the newbie!
> From: JESSICA_WEBBER@...
> 23. Avoiding faction hits in PoG when pulling
> From: Reece Tom R CPT 25 ID L G4
> <g4mntofcr@...>
> 24. RE: OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
> From: "Daniel P. Sniderman" <fuzzbone@...>
> 25. RE: Make way for the newbie!
> From: Daryl Schwemley <drs@...>
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:06:19 -0600
> From: Mike <mmerck@...>
> Subject: Re: Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
>
> This is the portal to Sleeper's Tomb - the Veeshan's Peak of
> SoV. The key
> comes from killing elder dragons and turning in their
> talismans to the ghost
> of Jaled Dar (?) in Dragon Necropolis.
> >
> > Ok, not entirely a bard topic, but as collectors of
> information I figured
> > someone here would know. Where does this portal go to and
> what is the
> key?
> > Also, I sure don't recall seeing this portal here when I
> was fighting
> there
> > a couple of weeks ago; and how the heck could I have missed
> that giant
> > spinning ball??? When did this get added?
> >
> > Kitasi of E'ci
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:03:01 -1000
> From: Reece Tom R CPT 25 ID L G4 <g4mntofcr@...>
> Subject: RE: Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
>
> I think you might be referring to the dragon statue in
> Eastern Wastes. If
> so that is the zone entrance to the Sleeper Tomb dungeon.
> AFAIK, only Fires
> of Heaven has figured out how to get the key to enter this dungeon.
>
> Galtin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kimes, Dean W. [mailto:dean_kimes@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:35 AM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: [eqbards] Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
>
>
>
> Ok, not entirely a bard topic, but as collectors of
> information I figured
> someone here would know. Where does this portal go to and
> what is the key?
> Also, I sure don't recall seeing this portal here when I was
> fighting there
> a couple of weeks ago; and how the heck could I have missed that giant
> spinning ball??? When did this get added?
>
> Kitasi of E'ci
>
> Please send submissions for the eqbards newsletter to
> lol@...
> with the subject submissions.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:06:09 -1000
> From: Reece Tom R CPT 25 ID L G4 <g4mntofcr@...>
> Subject: RE: OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
> Perhaps 47 is too low for Seb and Chardok, but it definately
> isn't too low
> for Karnors. I zipped right thru 46-50 hanging out
> primarily in Karnors.
> If you are lower than 50, probably a good idea to stick to
> the zone, moat
> corners and tower. Going in any deeper is risky unless
> everyone else is
> 50+.
>
> Galtin of E'ci
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Schuldes [mailto:jgs@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:37 AM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
>
> >>> after all i was crowd control as well and other then a
> bad streak of
> resists
> compared to usual i was doing just fine... <<<
>
> Level is God, AC is King, Resist Stats are your best friends.
>
> Sorry, imho, 47 is "too low" for Karnors, Seb and Chardok. I
> would say 50 is
> too low. Get 51 before emabarking on what is going to be a
> long career in
> these places. You won't have those resists. Yes, you can go
> there and yes,
> you can do some stuff but don't be surprized if others are
> picked to join
> groups before you. It has nothing to do with player skill,
> very little to
> do with class specific issues. It's purely a level thing.
>
> Sylly
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cyr, Thierry [mailto:thierry.cyr@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 10:33 AM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
>
> no kidding, like me yesterday was getting wailed by a cleric
> that i wasnt
> high enough to be in karnors. Yet i was outdamaging the tanks (or
> overtaunting). To me that means that maybe i wasnt too low
> to be there,
> after all i was crowd control as well and other then a bad
> streak of resists
> compared to usual i was doing just fine... But i dont like
> taking hits
> either, we're not ment to be first line of defense, we're
> more like air
> support 8)
>
> Minkin
> Ayonae Ro
> 47th level Wood Elf bard
>
> Please send submissions for the eqbards newsletter to
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:23:09 -0600
> From: "Daniel P. Sniderman" <fuzzbone@...>
> Subject: RE: OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
> (Obviously these observations are based on my experiences on
> my server on
> Xegony).
>
> You won't get into a group in Sebelis at 47. I couldn't at
> 49. Chardok is
> very underused and getting a pickup group there is normally
> unlikely at best
> at any level. Karnor is difficult - but in the right group -
> you might be
> okay. I did the Dog tower at about that level. They had a
> really good
> group with cleric and enchanter - and basically told me to
> stand back and be
> careful what I sang to not agro the mobs enough to become a target.
>
> Again - I think your odds of getting a pickup group are
> low - and it
> will
> be risky. However if you have a pre-made group that wants
> you - rock on -
> and hope for the best!
>
> Slyde
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Schuldes [mailto:jgs@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:37 PM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
> >>> after all i was crowd control as well and other then a
> bad streak of
> resists
> compared to usual i was doing just fine... <<<
>
> Level is God, AC is King, Resist Stats are your best friends.
>
> Sorry, imho, 47 is "too low" for Karnors, Seb and Chardok. I
> would say 50 is
> too low. Get 51 before emabarking on what is going to be a
> long career in
> these places. You won't have those resists. Yes, you can go
> there and yes,
> you can do some stuff but don't be surprized if others are
> picked to join
> groups before you. It has nothing to do with player skill,
> very little to
> do with class specific issues. It's purely a level thing.
>
> Sylly
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> __________
> ______________________________________________________________
> __________
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:38:38 -0500
> From: "Matt DeBarger" <mattdeba@...>
> Subject: Re: OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
> Karnors is fine for lvl 45+ I think. Moat groups especially.
> The others I agree on, never been to Sebellis, but I went to
> Chardok at 49
> at 50 and if I agroed a caster, I would die before the cleric
> could get a
> spell off.
>
> "Man, you died fast."
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:33:16 -0600
> From: "Daniel P. Sniderman" <fuzzbone@...>
> Subject: RE: Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
>
> Per Absor's latest comment - Verant claims its never been
> missing - just
> none of the 350,000 active subscribers have figured out how
> to get in...
>
> http://boards.station.sony.com/everquest/Forum2/HTML/050732.html
>
> Slyde
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon Hughes [mailto:ghughes@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:17 PM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
>
> Perhaps it's the portal to the Plane of Mischief that's been missing,
> presumed non-existant for a while?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kimes, Dean W. [mailto:dean_kimes@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:35 PM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: [eqbards] Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
>
>
>
> Ok, not entirely a bard topic, but as collectors of
> information I figured
> someone here would know. Where does this portal go to and
> what is the key?
> Also, I sure don't recall seeing this portal here when I was
> fighting there
> a couple of weeks ago; and how the heck could I have missed that giant
> spinning ball??? When did this get added?
>
> Kitasi of E'ci
>
> Please send submissions for the eqbards newsletter to
> lol@... with the subject submissions.
>
>
>
> Please send submissions for the eqbards newsletter to
> lol@...
> with the subject submissions.
>
>
>
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> __________
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:40:36 -0500
> From: "Matt DeBarger" <mattdeba@...>
> Subject: Re: High Taunt Weapon?
>
> I have been using Sinoche's Partisan and still have no agro
> trouble when I
> melee. To be honest I only have agro trouble if I am doing
> the triple chant
> attack (I pull mobs off our 52 warrior with that), or if I am
> doing double
> regen song with Gypsy Lute...
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> __________
> ______________________________________________________________
> __________
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:43:05 -0500
> From: "Matt DeBarger" <mattdeba@...>
> Subject: Re: OT Instruments (was complete heal)
>
> I believe the real reason Mino Horns are wind is power
> balance. To give a
> lvl 18 (with Denons) a magic horn would be very powerful. I
> found 18-25
> comically easy levels using merel store bought insturments
> and bronze/banded
> armor. If I had an extra 15% on DDD, it would be too much...
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> __________
> ______________________________________________________________
> __________
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:48:23 -0500
> From: chris.holden@...
> Subject: Manasong and Level 34 Soothing
>
>
>
> Has anyone done any numbers on how much mana these give back
> per tick? I am
> now
> level 34 and was asked how much mana the manasong gives and
> hte new Cantana
> of
> Soothing.
>
> Anyone know?
>
> -Ranian
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
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> ______________________________________________________________
> __________
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:55:17 -0500
> From: "Cyr, Thierry" <thierry.cyr@...>
> Subject: RE: OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
> I would not go to seb or chardok before 51 for sure... But
> karnors stuff
> starts getting blue at 43-44, 45 is fine, I actually went in
> now and then at
> 40. mind you at 45 when i was there i got my partisan from a
> moat group.
> All my SS was given to me by friends, i have yet to see any
> drop. Live
> captain is a fun fun camp, fast paced and great xp. Got a blackjack
> (raising 1hb slowly now and then)
>
> Hell the way i look at it, if i can by chance win a jade mace
> in cap group,
> it will be well worth going to karnors. I have to get rid of
> that damn yak
>
> Minkin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt DeBarger [mailto:mattdeba@...]
> Sent: January 23, 2001 3:39 PM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
>
> Karnors is fine for lvl 45+ I think. Moat groups especially.
> The others I agree on, never been to Sebellis, but I went to
> Chardok at 49
> at 50 and if I agroed a caster, I would die before the cleric
> could get a
> spell off.
>
> "Man, you died fast."
>
>
>
>
> Please send submissions for the eqbards newsletter to
> lol@...
> with the subject submissions.
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
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> __________
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:57:07 -0500
> From: "Cyr, Thierry" <thierry.cyr@...>
> Subject: RE: OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
> pickups are easy in karnors, i enter do a lfg and get 2-3
> tells right away
> 80% of the time, if no takers i go outside to ridge, either
> way this is the
> area that is best for me to get pickup groups early in the
> morning before
> going to work and getting good xp since im not on for very long.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel P. Sniderman [mailto:fuzzbone@...]
> Sent: January 23, 2001 3:23 PM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
>
> (Obviously these observations are based on my experiences on
> my server on
> Xegony).
>
> You won't get into a group in Sebelis at 47. I couldn't at
> 49. Chardok is
> very underused and getting a pickup group there is normally
> unlikely at best
> at any level. Karnor is difficult - but in the right group -
> you might be
> okay. I did the Dog tower at about that level. They had a
> really good
> group with cleric and enchanter - and basically told me to
> stand back and be
> careful what I sang to not agro the mobs enough to become a target.
>
> Again - I think your odds of getting a pickup group are
> low - and it
> will
> be risky. However if you have a pre-made group that wants
> you - rock on -
> and hope for the best!
>
> Slyde
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Schuldes [mailto:jgs@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:37 PM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
> >>> after all i was crowd control as well and other then a
> bad streak of
> resists
> compared to usual i was doing just fine... <<<
>
> Level is God, AC is King, Resist Stats are your best friends.
>
> Sorry, imho, 47 is "too low" for Karnors, Seb and Chardok. I
> would say 50 is
> too low. Get 51 before emabarking on what is going to be a
> long career in
> these places. You won't have those resists. Yes, you can go
> there and yes,
> you can do some stuff but don't be surprized if others are
> picked to join
> groups before you. It has nothing to do with player skill,
> very little to
> do with class specific issues. It's purely a level thing.
>
> Sylly
>
>
>
>
> Please send submissions for the eqbards newsletter to
> lol@...
> with the subject submissions.
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> __________
> ______________________________________________________________
> __________
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:59:45 -1000
> From: Reece Tom R CPT 25 ID L G4 <g4mntofcr@...>
> Subject: RE: Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
>
> IIRC, the only way anyone figured out how to complete the
> original Fiery
> Avenger quest was when a Guide/GM "leaked" the information
> directly to a
> player (someone in Fires of Heaven). I remember reading a post on the
> Whineplay forum a long time ago that stated this. So I don't
> know if its
> actually true or not. If it is true, I wonder if this is how
> the secret of
> entering PoM will be discovered as well?
>
> Galtin of E'ci
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel P. Sniderman [mailto:fuzzbone@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 10:33 AM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
>
>
> Per Absor's latest comment - Verant claims its never been
> missing - just
> none of the 350,000 active subscribers have figured out how
> to get in...
>
> http://boards.station.sony.com/everquest/Forum2/HTML/050732.html
>
> Slyde
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon Hughes [mailto:ghughes@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:17 PM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
>
> Perhaps it's the portal to the Plane of Mischief that's been missing,
> presumed non-existant for a while?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kimes, Dean W. [mailto:dean_kimes@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:35 PM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: [eqbards] Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
>
>
>
> Ok, not entirely a bard topic, but as collectors of
> information I figured
> someone here would know. Where does this portal go to and
> what is the key?
> Also, I sure don't recall seeing this portal here when I was
> fighting there
> a couple of weeks ago; and how the heck could I have missed that giant
> spinning ball??? When did this get added?
>
> Kitasi of E'ci
>
> Please send submissions for the eqbards newsletter to
> lol@... with the subject submissions.
>
>
>
> Please send submissions for the eqbards newsletter to
> lol@...
> with the subject submissions.
>
>
> Please send submissions for the eqbards newsletter to
> lol@...
> with the subject submissions.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:00:32 -0000
> From: "Katie " <thefete@...>
> Subject: Make way for the newbie!
>
> Hi all. This is my first posting here (the group was suggested to me
> on innoruuk.com) so please be kind. :)
>
> I am new to both EQ and being a bard so bear with me. First of all I
> love my bard! I initially started a shaman on my boyfriend's
> suggestion and, while I did like her, she just didn't have that
> certain something that my bard does.
>
> I've gotten her up to level 10 and I'm wondering about musical
> soloing. Right now I have soloed mainly with my weapon damage and
> singing. But I have read a few posts about bards soloing with
> instruments only and that it is very effective. I did try it out
> using chords of dissodance and selo's but it seemed to take forever
> to kill something that I could kill much faster with my weapons.
>
> So my question is...how viable is soloing with just instruments and
> do I just not have the effective offensive song yet for doing so?
>
> Thanks all and if you see Brhianna on Innoruuk running for her life
> and strumming her lute madly wave hello!
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> __________
> ______________________________________________________________
> __________
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:03:03 -1000
> From: Reece Tom R CPT 25 ID L G4 <g4mntofcr@...>
> Subject: RE: Question on "Drafting"
>
> Well first off you didn't say what level your own character
> was. He has to
> be high enough level to get EXP when grouped with a level 53.
> Off the top
> of my head, I don't know what the minimum level required to
> get EXP when
> grouped with a level 53 is. I would guess you have to be at
> least in your
> 40s.
>
> Assuming you are high enough level, your % split of EXP would
> be X/X+53.
> This is the base EXP amount you receive. The group bonus,
> class bonus, and
> zone bonus get added to the base value to determine total EXP
> received per
> kill.
>
> Under the new system, lower level characters get a higher %
> split of EXP
> when grouping with higher level character than they did under the old
> system. I have actually been in a group that did not want to
> add someone
> lower level because the person would steal EXP from them.
> This person was
> probably one of those that didn't want to group with hybrids
> prior to the
> new system for the same stupid reason.
>
> Galtin of E'ci
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris.holden@... [mailto:chris.holden@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:31 AM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: [eqbards] Question on "Drafting"
>
>
>
>
> Greeting everyone I have a question on a technique called
> "Drafting". My
> regular group of friends I group with don't want me to fall
> to far behind on
> xp
> while I am out for my son's impending birth (my wife would
> kill me if I
> attempt
> to play for the first month).
>
> I was told that with the new xp changes that you can group
> with a higher
> level
> player in my case a 53 shaman whose toons I group with would
> take my bard
> and
> group. He would then procedd to solo mobs and let me get the xp.
>
> The figures I saw (in an email) says the lower level
> character could "draft"
> or
> ride the xp off of the higher level shaman. They are
> estimating the lower
> level
> would get about 40% of the xp from such a scenario.
>
> Opinions on powerleviling and recent discussion on mediocre
> players aside (I
> have played EQ since it came out and have several characters
> in the 20's and
> 30's) would this form of powerleveling be an option? Or is
> the math wrong?
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> -Ranian
>
>
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:20:25 -0800
> From: "Sean Kennedy" <ksean2@...>
> Subject: Re: Question on "Drafting"
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <chris.holden@...>
> To: <eqbards@egroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:31 AM
> Subject: [eqbards] Question on "Drafting"
>
>
> >
> >
> > Greeting everyone I have a question on a technique called
> "Drafting". My
> > regular group of friends I group with don't want me to fall
> to far behind
> on xp
> > while I am out for my son's impending birth (my wife would
> kill me if I
> attempt
> > to play for the first month).
> >
> > I was told that with the new xp changes that you can group
> with a higher
> level
> > player in my case a 53 shaman whose toons I group with
> would take my bard
> and
> > group. He would then procedd to solo mobs and let me get the xp.
> >
> > The figures I saw (in an email) says the lower level character could
> "draft" or
> > ride the xp off of the higher level shaman. They are
> estimating the lower
> level
> > would get about 40% of the xp from such a scenario.
> >
> > Opinions on powerleviling and recent discussion on mediocre
> players aside
> (I
> > have played EQ since it came out and have several
> characters in the 20's
> and
> > 30's) would this form of powerleveling be an option? Or is
> the math wrong?
> >
> > Thanks for any input.
> >
> > -Ranian
> >
> >
> >
>
> Since the exp needed to level goes up by the cube of the level,
> but exp gained per mob is split linearly by level (in the new system)
> then the lower level partner gets more exp *RELATIVE* to the
> exp he needs to level than the higher level, thus "drafting" and
> catching up. This also means that, although characters now have
> to pay their own racial exp penalty, there is a limit to how far they
> will fall behind a regular grouping partner
>
> Unless I bungled the math it's something like
> H = Human level
> N = Non-Human level
> R = Racial modifier for Non-Human
>
> If H^2/N^2 >= R then the Non-Human
> stops falling behind.
>
> SDK
>
>
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:58:56 -0700
> From: "Kimes, Dean W." <dean_kimes@...>
> Subject: RE: High Taunt Weapon?
>
> ROFL!
>
> >From a purely ratio perspective, I can't imagine any weapon
> is going to
> make
> you a high agro magnet. Your song choices have way more
> effect on mob agro
> thatn even dual wielding moss twigs would have. It's not
> like you have
> double attack.
>
> Kit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel P. Sniderman [mailto:fuzzbone@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:43 PM
> To: EQ Bards
> Subject: [eqbards] High Taunt Weapon?
>
>
> Last night in Karnor Dog Tower I won the lotto
> for a Jade Mace
> (9/18) (was a huge argument attached - and at 1:45 AM I was
> pretty grouchy -
> but I got it in the end)
>
> Anywho - a buddy Warrior of mine was concerned
> that it's high
> rate might make me an aggro mob magnet
>
> Slyde Katzenjammer
> 52nd Level
>
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:25:11 -1000
> From: Reece Tom R CPT 25 ID L G4 <g4mntofcr@...>
> Subject: RE: OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
> Hehe when I was 46, I was running thru EC and saw someone
> selling SS gloves
> for 1K. I didn't have any SS pieces at the time so decided
> to buy them.
> Later on that day I went to Karnor's for the first time.
> Within 15 minutes
> of entering the zone, SS gloves dropped off a dog that my
> group killed. I
> kicked myself in the butt for not having the patience to wait
> and loot the
> piece for myself. BTW Karnor's has been my main hangout
> since 46. Since
> that one incident where the SS gloves dropped 15 minutes into
> the camp, I
> have not seen one piece drop.
>
> Galtin of E'ci
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cyr, Thierry [mailto:thierry.cyr@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 10:55 AM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
>
> All my SS was given to me by friends, i have yet to see any drop.
>
>
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>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:02:53 -0700
> From: "Kimes, Dean W." <dean_kimes@...>
> Subject: RE: OT Instruments (was complete heal)
>
> Stops=partials right. Agreed only brass instruments have
> them, that's what
> I said ;-)
> Simple woodwinds have no reeds. The hunting horn I have
> really isn't an
> instrument at all to be honest, but it is the vibrations
> created inside the
> horn that make the sound you hear. The different shapes of
> individual horns
> affects the sounds heard.
>
> Kit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel P. Sniderman [mailto:fuzzbone@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:33 PM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Instruments (was complete heal)
>
>
> That is not correct. I'm not sure what you mean by "stops" -
> if you mean
> "Partials" you have it backwards - only brass instruments
> have partials.
> Regardless, the determination of instrument types is by how
> the sound itself
> is generated. For brass instruments - the players lips
> vibration creates
> the sound. This is how you play a Shofar (when I was a child
> - a big day
> for me was when for the first time I beat the Rabbi's son in a
> Shofar-blowing competition - after I started taking trombone lessons).
>
> On a woodwind instrument - the sound is created by some part of the
> instrument vibrating. On modern instruments - with the
> exception of the
> flute this would be a reed (for a flute it's the vibrations
> caused by the
> wind crossing its mouthpiece
>
> A saxophone - for example - while made of brass is a woodwind
> instrument.
>
> As I have been taught (by some very good teachers) - for a
> brass player - we
> are creating the sound itself. The instrument only amplifies
> the sound.
> This is a good thing - because we're not constantly in search
> of a good
> reed. Most sax/clarinet players will tell you if they get
> one or two in a
> box of 20 - they are happy.
>
> Slyde
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kimes, Dean W. [mailto:dean_kimes@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:32 PM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Instruments (was complete heal)
>
> Actually it is more correct for it to be a wind instrument. Brass
> instruments all have stops, wind instruments do not
> necessarily have them.
>
> Kit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel P. Sniderman [mailto:fuzzbone@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 3:50 PM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Instruments (was complete heal)
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:29:46 -0500
> From: Adam Wasserman <wassermana@...>
> Subject: RE: Question on "Drafting"
>
> You can group with someone who is 2/3 your level, so the
> minimum to group
> with a 53 and get exp is 35 or 36 (depending on how they round)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reece Tom R CPT 25 ID L G4 [mailto:g4mntofcr@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:03 PM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Question on "Drafting"
>
>
> Well first off you didn't say what level your own character
> was. He has to
> be high enough level to get EXP when grouped with a level 53.
> Off the top
> of my head, I don't know what the minimum level required to
> get EXP when
> grouped with a level 53 is. I would guess you have to be at
> least in your
> 40s.
>
> Assuming you are high enough level, your % split of EXP would
> be X/X+53.
> This is the base EXP amount you receive. The group bonus,
> class bonus, and
> zone bonus get added to the base value to determine total EXP
> received per
> kill.
>
> Under the new system, lower level characters get a higher %
> split of EXP
> when grouping with higher level character than they did under the old
> system. I have actually been in a group that did not want to
> add someone
> lower level because the person would steal EXP from them.
> This person was
> probably one of those that didn't want to group with hybrids
> prior to the
> new system for the same stupid reason.
>
> Galtin of E'ci
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris.holden@... [mailto:chris.holden@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:31 AM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: [eqbards] Question on "Drafting"
>
>
>
>
> Greeting everyone I have a question on a technique called
> "Drafting". My
> regular group of friends I group with don't want me to fall
> to far behind on
> xp
> while I am out for my son's impending birth (my wife would
> kill me if I
> attempt
> to play for the first month).
>
> I was told that with the new xp changes that you can group
> with a higher
> level
> player in my case a 53 shaman whose toons I group with would
> take my bard
> and
> group. He would then procedd to solo mobs and let me get the xp.
>
> The figures I saw (in an email) says the lower level
> character could "draft"
> or
> ride the xp off of the higher level shaman. They are
> estimating the lower
> level
> would get about 40% of the xp from such a scenario.
>
> Opinions on powerleviling and recent discussion on mediocre
> players aside (I
> have played EQ since it came out and have several characters
> in the 20's and
> 30's) would this form of powerleveling be an option? Or is
> the math wrong?
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> -Ranian
>
>
>
> Please send submissions for the eqbards newsletter to
> lol@...
> with the subject submissions.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:31:49 -0500
> From: chris.holden@...
> Subject: Re: Make way for the newbie!
>
>
>
> I didn't start using instruments to solo until after 18. Then
> you have two
> songs
> (Chords and Disssonance?) that are AE DOT's that you can use
> with Hym and do
> more damage for weapons and you can take on a couple of mobs
> at the same
> time.
>
> Now at 34 I switch from instruments to weapons depending on
> the group make
> up.
> Check out the Concert Hall
> (http://www.attcanada.net/~reaper/index.html) and
> EQ
> Song (http://www.eqsongs.com/) for other good Bard Reference material.
>
> Being a bard (for me and imo) has been lots of fun. I have
> done Shaman,
> Mage,
> Warrior, SK, Necro and Chanter and come to my Bard each and
> every time.
>
> Good luck and enjoy!
>
> -Ranian Aeleroth
> Bard of the 34th Song on the Rathe
>
>
>
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>
> Hi all. This is my first posting here (the group was suggested to me
> on innoruuk.com) so please be kind. :)
>
> I am new to both EQ and being a bard so bear with me. First of all I
> love my bard! I initially started a shaman on my boyfriend's
> suggestion and, while I did like her, she just didn't have that
> certain something that my bard does.
>
> I've gotten her up to level 10 and I'm wondering about musical
> soloing. Right now I have soloed mainly with my weapon damage and
> singing. But I have read a few posts about bards soloing with
> instruments only and that it is very effective. I did try it out
> using chords of dissodance and selo's but it seemed to take forever
> to kill something that I could kill much faster with my weapons.
>
> So my question is...how viable is soloing with just instruments and
> do I just not have the effective offensive song yet for doing so?
>
> Thanks all and if you see Brhianna on Innoruuk running for her life
> and strumming her lute madly wave hello!
>
>
> Please send submissions for the eqbards newsletter to
> lol@...
> with
> the subject submissions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:27:13 -0700
> From: "Kimes, Dean W." <dean_kimes@...>
> Subject: RE: Portal in EW at the Dead Dragon???
>
> LOL! Unless it was built entirely out of particles and I had
> them turned
> off I am 100% certain it was not there when I fought giants
> from the foot of
> the thing for 2 days.
>
> Kit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel P. Sniderman [mailto:fuzzbone@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:33 PM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
>
>
> Per Absor's latest comment - Verant claims its never been
> missing - just
> none of the 350,000 active subscribers have figured out how
> to get in...
>
> http://boards.station.sony.com/everquest/Forum2/HTML/050732.html
>
> Slyde
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon Hughes [mailto:ghughes@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:17 PM
> To: eqbards@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
>
> Perhaps it's the portal to the Plane of Mischief that's been missing,
> presumed non-existant for a while?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kimes, Dean W. [mailto:dean_kimes@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:35 PM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: [eqbards] Portal in GD at the Dead Dragon???
>
>
>
> Ok, not entirely a bard topic, but as collectors of
> information I figured
> someone here would know. Where does this portal go to and
> what is the key?
> Also, I sure don't recall seeing this portal here when I was
> fighting there
> a couple of weeks ago; and how the heck could I have missed that giant
> spinning ball??? When did this get added?
>
> Kitasi of E'ci
>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:31:30 -0500
> From: JESSICA_WEBBER@...
> Subject: Re: Make way for the newbie!
>
>
> Bah! I'm the list newbie and refuse to give up the title! :-)
>
> At level 10 I wouldn't advise all-instruments. At level 12,
> try Hymn, CoD,
> and Bellow with a mandolin. It took me a while before this
> became a more
> lethal combo than Hymn, Warsong, and CoD, but by level 13
> it's a very safe
> way to solo and much, much, much more effective against multiple mobs.
>
> I was soloing two or three blue mobs at a time just recently
> and found I
> could start a battle at 3 and a half bubbles of health and
> end the battle
> at nearly full health.
>
> Peace
> Evulia of Tunare
> Bard of 14 levels
> Official List Newbie (don't worry Katie, you'll outlevel me
> within a week)
>
>
>
>
> "Katie "
> <thefete@yaho To: eqbards@egroups.com
> o.com> cc:
> Subject:
> [eqbards] Make way for
> 01/23/2001 the newbie!
> 04:00 PM
> Please
> respond to
> eqbards
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi all. This is my first posting here (the group was suggested to me
> on innoruuk.com) so please be kind. :)
>
> I am new to both EQ and being a bard so bear with me. First of all I
> love my bard! I initially started a shaman on my boyfriend's
> suggestion and, while I did like her, she just didn't have that
> certain something that my bard does.
>
> I've gotten her up to level 10 and I'm wondering about musical
> soloing. Right now I have soloed mainly with my weapon damage and
> singing. But I have read a few posts about bards soloing with
> instruments only and that it is very effective. I did try it out
> using chords of dissodance and selo's but it seemed to take forever
> to kill something that I could kill much faster with my weapons.
>
> So my question is...how viable is soloing with just instruments and
> do I just not have the effective offensive song yet for doing so?
>
> Thanks all and if you see Brhianna on Innoruuk running for her life
> and strumming her lute madly wave hello!
>
>
> Please send submissions for the eqbards newsletter to
> lol@...
> with the subject submissions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:37:20 -1000
> From: Reece Tom R CPT 25 ID L G4 <g4mntofcr@...>
> Subject: Avoiding faction hits in PoG when pulling
>
> Was wondering if there is any way for a bard to serve as main
> puller in PoG
> without taking a negative Tunare faction hit? From what I
> have read, a lot
> of folks are using non-KOS players to serve as scouts in PoG
> in order to
> lead the puller to the next mob. If there was some way for us
> to remain
> non-KOS while pulling, think this could be a lot of fun since
> we could both
> scout and pull.
> I was thinking that one possibility is for an enchanter to
> cast mem blur on
> the mob as you pulled it back to the camp. Another option
> would be for the
> bard to camp as soon as he dropped the mob off at the camp.
> This would work
> assuming you can camp out before the raid members killed the
> mob. Anyone
> know if these two options will work? Any other options?
> In every major raid I have attended, I almost always end up
> playing mana
> battery or resist buffer. This is all fine and dandy, but
> getting to be main
> scout/puller for a major raid sounds like it would be a lot of fun.
> Galtin of E'ci
>
>
>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:33:47 -0600
> From: "Daniel P. Sniderman" <fuzzbone@...>
> Subject: RE: OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
> I meant Karnor might be difficult for a 47 Bard. At 52 - I
> can get a pickup
> almost immediately. On Xegony it's the easiest zone on the
> server for me to
> get into a group. People there realize a Bard can handle CC
> - much less so
> has been my experience in Sebelis. And as I mentioned - on
> Xegony - pickups
> are next to impossible on Chardok due to under use.
>
> Slyde
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cyr, Thierry [mailto:thierry.cyr@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:57 PM
> To: 'eqbards@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] OT Complete heal (was Numbers on Bards)
>
> pickups are easy in karnors, i enter do a lfg and get 2-3
> tells right away
> 80% of the time, if no takers i go outside to ridge, either
> way this is the
> area that is best for me to get pickup groups early in the
> morning before
> going to work and getting good xp since im not on for very long.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 25
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:41:08 -0600
> From: Daryl Schwemley <drs@...>
> Subject: RE: Make way for the newbie!
>
> Welcome to our little community! Feel free to ask questions
> and to jump in
> at anytime.
>
> To answer your question, instrument soloing isn't typically
> done until you
> get Denon's Disruptive Discord at level 18. At that point,
> you can do a
> three song twist of DDD, HoR, and CoD with the appropriate
> instruments for
> more raw damage output with healing than a typical untwinked
> bard can do
> with weapons.
>
> Gilgurth
>
>
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