Agreed - the funniest thing about the haste issue - is most are convinced
they stacked at one time (When did they nerf this?) I usually tell them
(probably correctly - but if not at least they save face) that they are
mixed up with the fact bard haste stacks with haste items -not other classes
haste spells. Some still insist its true - even to the point of - when I
sing it to show them they say "See I'm faster now"... (The funniest
incident - I was arguing a tank about this - and he shouts to zone "Does
Bard Haste stack with Shaman?" and then some Uber 60 Tank from some Uber
Guild says no - and this guy acted like it was the word of God...

Anyway - I agree tone has a lot to do with it. I have no problems at all
with people ASKING me to play certain songs (particularly when I first join
the group and am setting up - not in the middle of combat). Even in the
case when they ask for a haste song when a Shaman is singing haste
(mistakenly believing it stacks) - if they ask me nice enough - fine.

What annoys me the most is people who say "Just sing Mana". Anyone who has
done the research (ie read the testing on eqsongs.com or tested
themselves) - knows that barring missed notes - the mana recovery of "just
singing mana" and twisting one other song is identical. You might as well
tell tanks to toggle of attack every other tick...

Slyde
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt DeBarger [mailto:mattdeba@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:49 AM
To: eqbards@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Soloing bards

Not exclusive, but bards definitly suffer from this the most. I have no
idea why all thse people assume they know how to play my 51 bard better than
I do. I guess they all play lvl 60 bards as their primaries. I still run
into to people that insist my normal haste songs (not the Ervaj ones) stack
haste effects with enchanters. "DEWD!!! I tested it MYSELF!!!!"

If I am in a group where I am lacking any realy good songs to play, I will
offer to play mana song full time. Usually this would involve having a
chanter/shaman and cleric (maybe 2 of the three along with another int
caster). It gives me a break from weaving, which is nice. However I
explain to them thsat they need to med close to the fights (thus must pull
close to the medders). USually they ignore me, so I go back to singing
other songs (since mana song ain't hitting the caters anyway).

When someone tells me what songs to play, I ignore the first time they say
it. Then say, "I know what I'm doing", the second time. If they continue,
it is dependent on my mood. I will usually just go back to ignoring them,
but occasionally I will go on a rant about how I don't tell them what
weapons to wield, skills to use, spells to cast, etc... It also depends on
their "tone" If they are trying to be helpful, I will merely explain whY i
am playing what songs I am singing. Occasionally someone actually makes a
good suggestion, and I will swtich my melody...

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