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Message ID: 23684
Date: Thu Feb 1 16:18:31 GMT 2001
Author: Reeves, Patrick W
Subject: RE: [eqbards] Soloing bards


Back in beta 3 hastes did stack. Then some whined about a 10th level bard
double hasting themselves (using anthem and jonthans) and the nerf hammer
came down.

Rokenn


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel P. Sniderman [mailto:fuzzbone@...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 8:05 AM
> To: eqbards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [eqbards] Soloing bards
>
>
> Agreed - the funniest thing about the haste issue - is most
> are convinced
> they stacked at one time (When did they nerf this?) I
> usually tell them
> (probably correctly - but if not at least they save face)
> that they are
> mixed up with the fact bard haste stacks with haste items
> -not other classes
> haste spells. Some still insist its true - even to the point
> of - when I
> sing it to show them they say "See I'm faster now"... (The funniest
> incident - I was arguing a tank about this - and he shouts to
> zone "Does
> Bard Haste stack with Shaman?" and then some Uber 60 Tank
> from some Uber
> Guild says no - and this guy acted like it was the word of God...
>
> Anyway - I agree tone has a lot to do with it. I have no
> problems at all
> with people ASKING me to play certain songs (particularly
> when I first join
> the group and am setting up - not in the middle of combat).
> Even in the
> case when they ask for a haste song when a Shaman is singing haste
> (mistakenly believing it stacks) - if they ask me nice enough - fine.
>
> What annoys me the most is people who say "Just sing Mana".
> Anyone who has
> done the research (ie read the testing on eqsongs.com or tested
> themselves) - knows that barring missed notes - the mana
> recovery of "just
> singing mana" and twisting one other song is identical. You
> might as well
> tell tanks to toggle of attack every other tick...
>
> Slyde
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt DeBarger [mailto:mattdeba@...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:49 AM
> To: eqbards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [eqbards] Soloing bards
>
> Not exclusive, but bards definitly suffer from this the most.
> I have no
> idea why all thse people assume they know how to play my 51
> bard better than
> I do. I guess they all play lvl 60 bards as their primaries.
> I still run
> into to people that insist my normal haste songs (not the
> Ervaj ones) stack
> haste effects with enchanters. "DEWD!!! I tested it MYSELF!!!!"
>
> If I am in a group where I am lacking any realy good songs to
> play, I will
> offer to play mana song full time. Usually this would
> involve having a
> chanter/shaman and cleric (maybe 2 of the three along with another int
> caster). It gives me a break from weaving, which is nice. However I
> explain to them thsat they need to med close to the fights
> (thus must pull
> close to the medders). USually they ignore me, so I go back
> to singing
> other songs (since mana song ain't hitting the caters anyway).
>
> When someone tells me what songs to play, I ignore the first
> time they say
> it. Then say, "I know what I'm doing", the second time. If
> they continue,
> it is dependent on my mood. I will usually just go back to
> ignoring them,
> but occasionally I will go on a rant about how I don't tell them what
> weapons to wield, skills to use, spells to cast, etc... It
> also depends on
> their "tone" If they are trying to be helpful, I will merely
> explain whY i
> am playing what songs I am singing. Occasionally someone
> actually makes a
> good suggestion, and I will swtich my melody...
>
>
>
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