At 12:01 PM 2/21/01 -0700, you wrote:

>I sort of agree here... although I think the large raid scenario is in a
>class by itself. As a shaman you might say I'm "very valuable" on a large
>raid. Last night we tried Dain again (and failed due to HUAS "Head Up A**
>Syndrome) and I did absolutely NOTHING. Literally. Halana is 59 = no
>focus, no torpor, no malo... also she does not have a vp hammer, so my buffs
>are low level and mana inefficient. Clerics have bp heals... and not even
>gonna SEE what happens if I try to slow Dain *grins*
>
>Also, in my guild, bards are invaluable on large raids, but they become
>specialists, twisting resists mostly... which probably feels like
>"uselessness" to a bard who is used to playing varied roles.

no, it's not feelings of inadequacy (honest!, heh). supposedly one of the uberguild
leaders has a ''source'' within verant who said that resists over 175 really have no
tangible effect. for most resists with decent equipment and the proper buffs i can
get to 175 without bard songs.

>I think class value on a large raid depends on a combination of factors:
>level, class, and often, equipment. In my opinion, Hybrids (including Bards
>here) are made by their gear. Give a ranger their epic swords and its
>like the game has been reinvented for them. Give a shaman her epic spear
>and *yawn* goodie, a mediocre dot... changes nothing. Just a couple
>examples from my limited perspective.
>
>Halana 59th "I hate Dain" Shaman
>Tani 45th Bard
>Solusek Ro